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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaren burn Nut, you got a big smile on

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Speaker 2: your face? What's new?

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Speaker 3: It's hot out?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what else? You know? It's ridiculous

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Speaker 2: besides how hot it is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: What all right?

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Speaker 3: Hines Hinds the ketchup Company. Yeah, well they're more than

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Speaker 3: a ketchup.

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Speaker 2: Mustard company, a condiment company.

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Speaker 3: All sorts of Hindes craft Hinds, oh makes all sorts

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Speaker 3: of stuff. And one thing they're into right now that

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Speaker 3: so many people sent us now, hold on, I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to go into it that I guess they own

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Speaker 3: da Potato company that they made like Napoleon Dynamite tater

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Speaker 3: tot protecting pants, which is just like cargo pants with

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Speaker 3: like a sealed side. Things so irritated me that I

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Speaker 3: was like, I'm not even going to look into this

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Speaker 3: because this is just desperate.

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Speaker 2: It irritated you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you believe that?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What did it cross?

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Speaker 3: Because it's just like it's so thirsty, It's so just

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Speaker 3: like this isn't you're not you think you're being weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it's like no, But then I'm like, what is

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Speaker 3: what's wrong at Heines, Like there's a problem. Oh, because

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Speaker 3: they've also gone nuts with this thing in the UK,

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Speaker 3: and I'm mad because I couldn't try and get it

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Speaker 3: because they're only made a hundred bottles. It's in the UK.

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Speaker 3: When you were a kid and you went to a

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Speaker 3: place where you could fill your own soda, did you

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Speaker 3: do that thing where you put all the different sodas

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Speaker 3: in one Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We used to call it swamp water when I was

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Speaker 2: a kid. Other people called it other things like like that.

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Speaker 2: That was the one that came up west.

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Speaker 3: I learned about it, Yeah, and I just thought it

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Speaker 3: was disgusting. It's for those without a discriminating palate, Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: Heines has basically done that. In the UK. They are

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Speaker 3: making a thing called everything.

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Speaker 2: Sauce, oh Lord, for condoms.

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Speaker 3: It's only available in the UK. It's comprised of fourteen

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Speaker 3: Heines sauces because they know their sauces over there.

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Speaker 2: And I know he's got like a brown sauce because

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Speaker 2: it's going over to the UK.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you know this about me,

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Speaker 3: but I do like condiments and sauces. You do like

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Speaker 3: most of my refrigerators.

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Speaker 2: I do know that about you. I've seen your refrigerator.

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Speaker 3: And so this is their list of sauces. Burger sauce.

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Speaker 3: What is that like? A one? I garlic sauce. Count

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Speaker 3: me in aoli sauce. Count me in smoky bacon aise.

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Speaker 3: I'll pass sweet chili. Yes, chip sauce.

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Speaker 2: That's not brown sauce.

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Speaker 3: Brown sauce, I'll do it. Saucy sauce, sauce sauce, Mayo racha,

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Speaker 3: which I guess is sarracha mayonnaise.

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Speaker 4: Mayo.

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Speaker 2: Must're just doubling up on sauces.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of mayo.

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Speaker 4: I'm Mayo.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. I don't like truffles too earthy. Yes,

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Speaker 3: garlic and caramelized onion Mayo. Where have you been all

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Speaker 3: my life? Is my question?

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Speaker 2: You're doing the cappit the so far.

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Speaker 3: I know, curry ketchup.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on the fence with that. It'suation, you know,

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Speaker 3: dependence o pickle ketchup. So basically burger sauce like vinegary

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Speaker 3: dill ketchup. Yeah, okay, I'll do it. Smoky bacon ketchup.

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Speaker 3: No misty with the bacon business and liquid smoke. I

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Speaker 3: do not like the taste of smoke. Anyway. They put

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Speaker 3: these all together in something called every Sauce that I

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Speaker 2: I knew it at the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: You would at the bottom line and you know it's

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Speaker 3: but again, you had to like fill out a quiz

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Speaker 3: on their website, which I would do. So there are

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Speaker 3: but one hundred bottles. One of the quiz questions, how

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Speaker 3: many sauces do you have at home? I'm like, how

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Speaker 2: How much space do they take? Essay answers do you take?

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Speaker 3: Korean characters and their responts? How much sauce do you use? Honey,

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Speaker 3: I am not ready for people.

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Speaker 2: To know how much sauce you the sauciest.

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Speaker 3: I I love sauces, I know too, So anyway, I

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Speaker 3: confession everything everything, So I like sauces while I'm watching TV.

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, the more I expose of myself, I'm feeling

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Speaker 3: so naked. Right anyway, Yeah, that's it, that's ridiculous, and

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Speaker 3: everything saw every sauce stamped. If one of our intrepid

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Speaker 3: UK listeners you can get a handle, get get some

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Speaker 3: every sauce, every sauce. I'll make a cool trade of

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Speaker 3: something American that will be obviously.

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Speaker 2: Inferior, but throwing some merch as well, whatever I.

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Speaker 3: Can do to make it up to them too, for

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Speaker 3: all the way that maybe we.

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Speaker 2: Can send those over the Scar season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of Dave's expired.

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Speaker 2: Li is if I got a question for you? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got a second?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Where you go off to go contact every person you

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Speaker 2: know in the UK? Yes, what's the most ridiculous vehicle

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Speaker 2: you could imagine driving in a car chase?

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Speaker 3: You personally driving me personally driving a ridiculous vehicle? I

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Speaker 3: would think like, uh, an eighty six Ford Tourists that's

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Speaker 3: made into like an art car, where like the trunk

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Speaker 3: is taken off and it's full of like succulents, okay,

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Speaker 3: and then there's cans coming off the bag, but just.

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Speaker 2: Married, got married to the succulents.

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Speaker 3: But instead it's like, oh, you just drove through like

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Speaker 3: a recycling lot. And it would have the like the horns,

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Speaker 3: the big longhorn horns on the front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a Texas Cadillac. Yeah, either that or like.

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Speaker 3: A two thousand and seven Prius.

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Speaker 2: Well you didn't ask me, so I'll just tell you. Please,

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Speaker 2: for me, it would be a stolen Wiener mobile.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be stolen though, All right.

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Speaker 3: Of course that's the only kind to drive.

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Speaker 2: Kid me. I'm not paying for that the parking. So

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Speaker 2: we both overlooked an obvious choice though. How about an

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Speaker 2: ice cream truck? Oh? Yes, yeah, good news. I got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of stories for you of ice cream truck

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Speaker 2: based crime.

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Speaker 4: Oh please, This.

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Speaker 2: Is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 2: ice and cons It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 2: and one hundred percent ridiculous ice cream. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: keep it cool mentally for you. I'm telling you a

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Speaker 2: story about ice cream steamy in here. Yeah, so ice

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Speaker 2: cream ice cream? We all scream for ice cream? Ice cream?

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Speaker 2: Do you like it? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: I love ice cream.

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Speaker 2: You ever been an ice cream pro? Did you ever

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Speaker 2: slung a dish of the cream? No?

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Speaker 3: My brother was a soda jerk.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I thought I remembered somebody in your family.

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Speaker 3: And I do like sauces on it.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite ice cream sauce?

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Speaker 3: Butterscotch?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Of course? Very rich? Yes, in my world, to

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Speaker 2: be considered decadent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I live decadence, bab.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't do it. I'm over here with my

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Speaker 2: marshmallow ste.

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Speaker 3: You're for a good time, not a long time.

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Speaker 2: Well to bring you into the cool and delicious world

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Speaker 2: of ice cream trucks, Elizabeth, I have one last question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: have you ever heard of the anarchist ice cream truck?

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Speaker 3: I have an ice cream truck that goes around my neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: do you Yeah? And it is hilarious. The thing is

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Speaker 3: so tiny. Yeah, it's the smallest.

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Speaker 2: It's like some one of those former mail trucks.

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Speaker 3: It's smaller than that. It's like someone shrunk it down

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Speaker 2: They chopped a mail truck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it has that spooky music. And then when

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Speaker 3: every time you go, like if I was driving and

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Speaker 3: I drove around it and it was like the craziest

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Speaker 3: collection of people shoved in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, multiple people in a tiny ice cream truck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was incredible. And so I'm sure that all

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Speaker 3: sorts of illegal activities take place a boy, and I'm

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Speaker 3: wondering if you're going to tell me about them today.

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Speaker 2: I do actually have an Oakland connection for you, but

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Speaker 2: it is not that it is the anarchist ice cream truck.

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Speaker 2: I love it from Oakland.

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Speaker 3: Oh really?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice, and it is a real thing at

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Speaker 2: least it was back in two thousand and eight. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so the anarchist ice cream truck was the brainchild of

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Speaker 2: this cat named Aaron Gock. Gach. It was a roving

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Speaker 2: art installation of sorts. It was from the Center for

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Speaker 2: Tactical Magic. Yeah, oh yeah, just exactly what you thought there.

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Speaker 2: And I checked their site. They're still around. They're still

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Speaker 2: being tactically magical. Yeah. Yeah, and you should look into it.

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Speaker 2: They got stuff you for you tactical magic. Yeah, But

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Speaker 2: the anarchist ice cream truck, it wasn't on their list

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Speaker 2: of direct I don't know what to call them art

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Speaker 2: experiences because they had all these direct actions, but it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like they weren't all political anyway. It's yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: very Oakland. Back in two thousand and eight, though, The

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Speaker 2: New York Times wrote about this ice cream truck in

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Speaker 2: particular because it was in New York at the time.

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Speaker 2: Now the reporter went down there. They tramped down to

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Speaker 2: where it was park near a park, and they spoke

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Speaker 2: with a thirty four year old Aaron Gock and as

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Speaker 2: The Times described him, this will kind of, I think,

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Speaker 2: seal the deal for you, Elizabeth. And I quote Aaron

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Speaker 2: Gock thirty four, who wore a skinny bow tie and

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Speaker 2: a black and white saddle shoes and a uniform with

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Speaker 2: art on the name tag and the words Tactical ice

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Speaker 2: Cream Unit on his white captain's hat. He was not

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Speaker 2: wearing his usual big fake mustache. End quote.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is where I'm like, I'm standing on the fence.

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Speaker 3: I'm like balancing on the top of that wooden fence. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, on one hand, I'm like, you think

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Speaker 3: you're so precious and unique. In the other hand, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: You kind of want to support it. Yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't know where to land yet. Okay, So I'm

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Speaker 2: skilled with.

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Speaker 3: That statement speak thrive across the country and that thing

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Speaker 3: or ship it out on there.

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Speaker 2: And here's the truck. I think that'll answer the question

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Speaker 2: for you. They drove it.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there for the road trip, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't have my glasses on. But it looks like

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Speaker 3: when police departments get yes, military money.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it looks exactly like that, Like a tactical substation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well back to the anarchist ice cream truck, which

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Speaker 2: Aaron Gok referred to as quote the alter ego of

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Speaker 2: a police mobile. Command you in it. Look at you, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: I'm both proud and ashamed that I'm on that way.

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Speaker 2: You're fully on this wavelength. I to tell you you're

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Speaker 2: a radio for this cat. Remember he's part of an

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Speaker 2: Right up there, that whole ladder, right, Okay, don't miss

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Speaker 2: a wrong now. To accomplish those goals, mister Gok and

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Speaker 2: his art group, they rely on a collection of tactics, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: It's like they're eight years old, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's basically also the guest list of one of my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not allowed. So mister Ghak and his arts

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Speaker 2: they doing in their magically tactical ice cream truck. That's

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Speaker 2: the reverse image of a police substation. Well, keep in

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Speaker 2: mind it was two thousand and eight. Okay, keep that

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Speaker 2: The flavors they sold, you'll love this list. You could

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Speaker 2: or Graffiti Liberation. I have no idea what black Panther

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Speaker 2: Know your Rights it also tastes like. I can kind

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Speaker 3: But you know anarchy, it tastes like every sauce.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's what I was thinking. Frozen every sauce.

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Speaker 2: Now as you wait for them to make your waffle

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Speaker 2: The ice cream truck only sells real flavors fudge pop,

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Speaker 2: It's called food for Thought, and that's where you'd find

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Speaker 2: Know your Rights, Black Panthers, Graffiti Liberation because these elizabeth

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Speaker 3: So there's no ice cream up.

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Speaker 2: No, no, there's ice cream. You can order a fudge pop

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Speaker 2: it comes with like each no, no, you have to

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Speaker 3: What happens if I just go up there and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: And no, I'm good, Yeah you could for ice cream.

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Speaker 2: That's what they saw they're cool with that. Yeah, they're anarchists, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: They watched to you. So, like I said two thousand

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Speaker 2: other reason the anarchist ice cream truck was in New

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, but Saron, where's the crime? I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: You know that is always my question.

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Speaker 2: How is this anarchist ice cream truck criminal? These are

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Speaker 2: great questions, Elizabeth Cheney. We're getting close. You can smell

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Speaker 2: the crime from here. Well, inside the ice cream truck

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Speaker 2: freezers you would find emergency gas masks, nothing bad about that.

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Speaker 2: You check the condiment shelves in the ice cream truck,

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Speaker 2: you would find that they held quote, equipment for protesters

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Speaker 2: at demonstrations to use when confronted by police. Once again,

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Speaker 2: cabinets for things that were quote used to store rolls

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Speaker 2: Nothing illegal. Still again, that's not all, Elizabeth, because he's

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Speaker 3: Well if you if you throw the it's someone, it's assault.

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Speaker 3: If they don't want to be in that water balloon.

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Speaker 2: Totally, and they keep those things on them, so you know,

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Speaker 2: be on your toes. Now. It ain't easy for an

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Speaker 2: they're out there slanging delicious frozen treats with precious names,

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Speaker 3: They had like bricks of coke in their tol.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, no, let's just stay for later. I might

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, She's like, serious, where's the threat there?

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Speaker 2: as quote I thought you'd love this a police scanner

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Speaker 3: But they're also part of the surveillance state totally. And

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Speaker 2: Your comrade is filming every night, and.

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Speaker 3: I find out they have all this surveillance equipment on

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Speaker 2: I would you know, I don't think you're far off now.

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Speaker 2: He's tell the New York Times Aaron Gock that he

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Speaker 2: It was this nice old lady, and he tells it, quote,

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Speaker 2: there you go, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: But that's the other thing too. Is it for him

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Speaker 2: She just came out of like you know, and you're

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Speaker 2: Yes. Well, now these I have a bunch more stories

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Speaker 2: for you, and with them there's no question about either

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Speaker 2: then we get back. We'll get stupid with it, but

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Speaker 2: where were we? Big worm? That's right, big worm in

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Speaker 2: the ice cream truck, Elizabeth. I'd like, can you take

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Speaker 2: you back in time to nineteen fifty four?

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Speaker 3: Oh, great year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right. This story comes to us from the Sacramento

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Speaker 3: Joe, I just love it.

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Speaker 2: Everything right now, it's all for you. July thirty first,

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Speaker 2: now that we've met our cast of characters, they heard

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Speaker 2: Two young men they walk into the Cboard finance company

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Speaker 2: The other young man has a handgun. He points the

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Speaker 2: The man with the bag grabs some cash and just

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Speaker 2: the inflation now, yes, thank you, three five hundred two dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right, Pretty good day's work anyway, money in hand. The

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Speaker 2: onto the street. She heels, hold up, hold up, all right,

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Speaker 2: she gets lucky. There are two passing highway patrolmen, customers

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Speaker 2: They went that away right. Meanwhile, Carol Beauchamp, she ain't done.

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Speaker 2: She's like out two highway patrolman, that's not enough. She

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Speaker 2: get the robber, Ed doesn't hesitate. He punches at Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: He smashes down on that gas pedal chases after.

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Speaker 3: The robbery fifteen miles out.

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Speaker 2: Totally very sensible, twenty and tops. Now you best not

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Speaker 2: because he caught up to the punk perp who dared

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Speaker 2: old bank robber. The guy's name is Warren B. Begtell

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Speaker 2: fifty four is that?

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Speaker 3: All I can do is in my head, I'm imagining

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Speaker 3: I know putting that picture together, just like these wide

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Speaker 2: And do you know who was most likely in Compton,

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Speaker 2: California at that time in nineteen fifty four? It was

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Speaker 3: He does it for Compton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where he gets all that country, gets the

439
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 2: horses to cowboys raise up. So let's skip ahead twenty

440
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: years in time to nineteen seventy four, Great year. We'll

441
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: jump across the continent to Whyan dauntch or Wyan Dance, New.

442
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 3: York, Great Place.

443
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: Dateliner July fifth, nineteen seventy four, again starts out with

444
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 2: a banger of a lead. This story sums up the

445
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: particulars well. And I quote an ice cream truck driven

446
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: by a young man who apparently was not in a

447
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: good humor, led four police cars in twelve fire trucks

448
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: on a wild chase through this New York suburb Thursday

449
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 2: night that ended up with five persons, including two policemen, injured.

450
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 2: So how did two cops, a firefighter and two others

451
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: all get injured in a slow speed ice cream truck chase?

452
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: How did that happen?

453
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: Great question, Elizabeth. Again, our story starts with a young

454
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 2: man and his friend, this time only this time the

455
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 2: friend is driving the ice cream truck. Here I'll explain.

456
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 2: John P. Wehn twenty two confronted this young woman and

457
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 2: threatened her with a wrench.

458
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 3: I know, right, wow, bugger.

459
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if there were friends and he was

460
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: getting wild and loud, or if he was like going around,

461
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: go give me your wallet. I got a wrench. I

462
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: don't know. They could not tell. I guess they were

463
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 2: like in downtown Wyan Dunch anyway, and off duty cops.

464
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: He sees this guy threatening a woman with a wrench.

465
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: He also happens to be the assistant chief of the

466
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Wine Donch Fire Department and he sees this all goes

467
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: down right. He walks over to confront the dude with

468
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: the wrench, like that doesn't go down and Yan Dunch

469
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: or wine bench anyway, He knows how to say it,

470
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: he knows how to pronounce it. He's like, I don't

471
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: recognize you. Maybe you're new in town. But around here,

472
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 2: we don't threaten women with wrenches. So this guy, the

473
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: purp with the wrench, he considers his information. Elizabeth. He's like, oh,

474
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: I'll put that into my mental calculus, and he decides

475
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: that it's useless to me. I've got the wrench. So

476
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: he takes the wrench and he hits the off duty

477
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: cop with it, and he's like, update your facts.

478
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 3: Bring it happens now.

479
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hits him in the shoulder. So then the

480
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: young man with the wrench he runs off and he

481
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: hops into his getaway vehicle, his buddy's ice cream truck.

482
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 3: Amazing.

483
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: Waiting for him is Victor bart Lotla Lotla. It's lot

484
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: l a. I could not find a way to pronounce that.

485
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: Victor Martlaw bart aalatlahla. Yeah. Anyway, he's also twenty two

486
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: years old, and.

487
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: So he's in the wheel of the truck exactly.

488
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 2: He floors it. He floors the ice cream truck and

489
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: it tears away at a sensible twenty miles an hour.

490
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if for certain it could be going thirty,

491
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: who knows.

492
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: Could you imagine, like if an ice cream truck went

493
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: by it.

494
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: Like trying to make a hard turn, ice cream pours out.

495
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: The kids just like sweating running the people excited.

496
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: They're waiting on the hard turns come on anyway. The

497
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: off duty CP, what do you think he does when

498
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: he sees these two punks to get away in an

499
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: ice cream truck?

500
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: Screams and holds his bloody forehead.

501
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: Oh good call, No, he's a tough guy. He runs

502
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: to his truck, his official fire vehicle, and he gives chase.

503
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: And this of course means he also has the radio.

504
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: So he gets on the radio and were.

505
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: He starts calling out everybody for a man hunt?

506
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: Nice?

507
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He radios the Suffolk County Police. Then he

508
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: radios the Wyan Daunch, North Lindenhurst and the West Babylon

509
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: Fire departments.

510
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: Oh not West Babylon.

511
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He's like, get the trucks on the road, boys,

512
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: and they do. Do they establish a perimeter or whatever

513
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: they do? Meanwhile, the ice cream truck is getting away

514
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: right up until it crashes into a car. And I

515
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: don't know how this worked, but when the ice cream

516
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: truck strikes the car, a passenger gets thrown from the car,

517
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: but not like from the bed of a pickup, which

518
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: would makes sense to me because it's like nineteen seventy

519
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: four and the pickup bed was like a legitimate seat

520
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: for like eight people in nineteen seventy four. But no,

521
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 2: this was a car, so I don't know how they

522
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: had doors closed, doors open, no doors.

523
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: It could be a convertible anyway, I know you worried

524
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: laying out at the top of the that would work pop.

525
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 2: Down totally, just get bumped out.

526
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: It could be one of those people who puts their

527
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: feet out the window and you're looking at me bumped

528
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: from behind it and sprung out.

529
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: Well, they weren't badly injured. I'll let you know. So

530
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: I know how you worried.

531
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: I do worry.

532
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: So the ice cream truck though still rolling, He's like,

533
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm built low and slow and I'm.

534
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: Here to hit jams and just keeps it hitting run.

535
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: And also I assume that they have the music playing,

536
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: so it's like.

537
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: Going like if they drive faster, does the music speeding.

538
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: So I was a picture maybe some kids chasing the

539
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: truck because they're confused.

540
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: Pop goes the weaselt like a frenetic case and.

541
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: The truck just won't stop, and the kids are chasing,

542
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: chasing Muhammad Ali in the streets. But it's an ice

543
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: cream truck. Anyway. The cop cars they are behind, now

544
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: I guess these kids that I'm imagining, and so it's

545
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: all very Keystone cops in Wyan doc. But the man

546
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: hunt that they off duty called out, it's fully mobilized, Elizabeth.

547
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: They do create roadblocks. The ice cream truck, as I said,

548
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: built low and slow and hard to hit. It goes through,

549
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: it punches it and crashes through a roadblock. No way, Yeah,

550
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: put up your your I don't know. Fire engines boom

551
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: hit the amazing after the another one boom goes through.

552
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: That one goes boom, another one goes through. Three road

553
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: three police fire roade blocks truck. Seems like twenty miles

554
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: an hour.

555
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Well, they seem flimsy, like the sides would have.

556
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think you probably losing fenders. Yeah,

557
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: so anyway, they're engaging in evasive actions. Also as the

558
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: ice cream truck is being chased by multiple cop cars

559
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: and fire engines through all of this, so they're smashing

560
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: it to some and being chased by others.

561
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 3: Like, what's his endgame in this? We talk about this

562
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: last time.

563
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: Where you gonna go to Canada. So the chase lasts

564
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes, and finally the cops and fire truck

565
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: thirty they're able Yeah, oh totally in a small town

566
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: thirty minutes around embarrassing the cops exactly. So the fire

567
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: trucks are able to corner the ice cream truck. The

568
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: wrench swinging purp when he's not done, so he hops

569
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: out of the ice cream truck and there's another off

570
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: duty cop who's also been part of the man hunt.

571
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: The two face off. It's like a scene from Fast

572
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: and Furious, but it's like slow and very angry. So

573
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: the wrench swing.

574
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Slow and irritated and irritated, so.

575
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: He sticks to his base move. He hits an off

576
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: duty cop with the wrench. He's like, I know this glock.

577
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: So this time though, he hits his second off duty

578
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: cop in the head. Serious, like the guy has to

579
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: go to the hospital, but he lives. He's fine. Yeah,

580
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: he still knows his left from his right. But the

581
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: driver of the ice cream truck he also jumps in

582
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: for what the police refer to as a quote general

583
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: free for roll. So a firefighter he rushes into the scene.

584
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: Another passer by or two they jump in. So these

585
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: men are all swinging on each other and working together.

586
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: They managed to sub do these two young men.

587
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: Firefighters are bruisers.

588
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: You can tell from the mustaches and the dalmatians, but

589
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: all for real honesty, they're too Yeah. Yeah, they're totally

590
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: ropey rangy strong.

591
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: You can't just do like you know some some first

592
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: responders can be out of shape, but not firefighters.

593
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, they get these guys in the ground.

594
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: I can't believe he let the guy get close enough

595
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: to hit him in the head.

596
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: And then I just don't think that expect I think

597
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: it was like nineteen seventy four. They're like the.

598
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: Day after the fourth of July.

599
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, like a full day later.

600
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

601
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, I love America.

602
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: Are you party hard for Americas? Do it for Uncle

603
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: Sam's Saron?

604
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: Me and Uncle Sam we tied one on last night

605
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: and I.

606
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: Lost three fingers for America.

607
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: So Barta Lootla the driver the ice cream truck. He

608
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: also got charged on multiple traffic violations. Oh really yeah, yeah,

609
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: the story totally reminded me of a I'm Duncan McElroy,

610
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: lead singer and driver of the Winnebago. Can you name

611
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: that movie?

612
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 5: Oh the Blue Blues Brother, there you go, which is

613
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 5: totally the spirit of today's crimes, anarchy, chaos, lawlessness, recklessness,

614
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: ridiculous car chases, just no music.

615
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, moving across the pond over in the UK, Elizabeth,

616
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: let's jump forward to nineteen eighty four. I don't know

617
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: why we're sticking in the forest. It just happened to

618
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: be the case. Anyway, we're over here.

619
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: Every year is a great year, by.

620
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: The way, totally if you look at it. Right. So

621
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: we're at the Redding in the UK. Okay, I said that, right? Okay. Interestingly,

622
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: this story takes place in November. Not a lot of

623
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: ice cream truck stories in November, but hey, I like

624
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: your spirit, Britz. So five point thirty PM, middle aged

625
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: woman is working alone at a Berkshire shop called Annits

626
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: or an Its Stores on Coylton Way and Pearly, I said,

627
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: all is wrong. I'm certain A dark colored car pulls up,

628
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: two men get out. The men are wearing army combat gear,

629
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: black bolaklava face masks. One has a hockey stick eighty four. Yeah, exactly.

630
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: Everyone was like, Margaret, thatcher's in London. Anyway, just before

631
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: they step inside the shop, I'm assuming they pull down

632
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: their face masks. They confront the shop assistant and demand cash.

633
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: The bloke with the hockey stick, he flexes it against

634
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: the woman, like you don't want any of his business.

635
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: So the two men. But the British press they kept

636
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: calling this. I love that they called him raiders instead

637
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: of like robbers or.

638
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they were on a raid.

639
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: I guess, but you just don't see that in the

640
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: American press. They never call anybody who goes into a

641
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: store and grabs stuff a ra raider. Yeah, so anyway,

642
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: it's much cooler than robbers. But these two raiders they

643
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: walk out with hundreds of pounds, like they actually grabbed

644
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: the whole till, Like the cash register is basically a

645
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: drawer at that time, they just took it. We're like,

646
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: that's ours now. And then they got in their dark

647
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: colored car and they sped away, turning right onto Saint

648
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Mary's Avenue. Now, the middle aged shop assistant she rushes outside,

649
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: chasing these two raiders, but they're gone, Elizabeth, so she

650
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: flags down quote a Lucky Clover ice cream van, which

651
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: set off in hot pursuit. So that hot pursuit was

652
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: not hot enough. The ice cream truck couldn't I keep up.

653
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: The two raiders got away with the eight hundred and

654
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: fifty pounds sterling. Oh yeah, so we can't win them all.

655
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Now are you did you stumble across any Glasgow ice

656
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: cream truck stuff?

657
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 6: Oh?

658
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: I was. I was going to bring that up a

659
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: little later, but yeah I did. I was going to

660
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: ask you about that because I know you were there.

661
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I because I just I almost did you know.

662
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: I was going to tell you a story once about them,

663
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: and then I had to walk away because because it.

664
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: Was a murdery part.

665
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, It's just a lot more like twenty five.

666
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn' they have like bombs and I mean it

667
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: got like.

668
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was arsenal. I feel like a kid got in.

669
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: But the thing is is that they were selling drugs

670
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: out of the ice cream trucks, so there'd be long

671
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: lines in say November. Yeah, people are like that when

672
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: it's ice curious Glasgow.

673
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, did you ever watch the movie Nice Dreams?

674
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: I think I remember being young and seeing the cover in.

675
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: The Chichen Shawing movie and in the video.

676
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: Store store, but I have not seen it.

677
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: But they're so weed out of the back of an

678
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: ice cream truck.

679
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: That Big Worm and Friday exactly now.

680
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Kids today, Elizabeth, they will never get to watch Cheach

681
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: and Chong movies is a right of passage as part

682
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: of pop culture's right. I got met most of it,

683
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: never even heard of Cheachen Chong anymore.

684
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, before I left Twitter, I'd say every

685
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: other post on my feed was from Cheach and Chong gummies.

686
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't follow them. I blocked them, and

687
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: they still kept coming here. Yeah, and it just wouldn't stop.

688
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: So I think kids probably now were just like, it's

689
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: those two annoying old guys who love dummies.

690
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: That's the that's there. I feel like Bartles and James.

691
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. When I was little. I woke up

692
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: in the middle of the night and my mom and

693
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: my uncle were up watching a Cheach and Chong.

694
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Really were they like tooting on a little.

695
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just went back to sleep.

696
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: You're like, no funny wacky smells for you.

697
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: I think I would have noticed if there was, I.

698
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: Think you would have. So they watching one totally sober

699
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: watching Chong movies.

700
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: Had Cheech and Chong albums in the collection.

701
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Girl, he's not here, man, Oh yeah, I have friends.

702
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: You bought those a big bambino.

703
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rolling paper came with actual huge rolling papers.

704
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: In with our records. Wait a second, all these things.

705
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Any seeds still stuck on the outside. So yeah, the

706
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just kind of bummed that basically,

707
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: kids won't ever have like a reason to watch a

708
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: movie about some betty driving a truck back.

709
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: From Mexico anymore.

710
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have. There's the one, like the first one,

711
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: they drive an ice cream truck. Literally basically it's a

712
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: green but it's the way it's an ice cream truck.

713
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: They drive it back from Mexico and the whole thing

714
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: is made out of weed, and then like then it

715
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: like burns and it gets these cops high outside because

716
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: it's idling and it's just burning itself.

717
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: I guess California exactly, although I gotta say, like living

718
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: far away from California in the South, and then when

719
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: I moved back, like you get off the plane and

720
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: there are people smoking weed in the smoking sections outside

721
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: the airport.

722
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like and they're a stewardess, and yeah it is.

723
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: It's just weird.

724
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: And like my old neighborhood and Oaklan smelled like jasmine

725
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: flowers lead and when you're going wrong, walks around the

726
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: neighborhood and you just get used to it. I'm used

727
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: to it, but like I just imagine tourists must be

728
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: kind of taking it back sometimes.

729
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: Well I'm stoked on it. Yeah, I mean, welcome to California.

730
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: I tell you how it is. That's the aroma. So anyway,

731
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, Also, the other thing I was thinking about

732
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: this before I move on the whole pot film genre.

733
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: Now that pot is basically illegal. I mean it's not.

734
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: It's boring. Now, it's not. You don't have like an

735
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: aspirin film genre. There's nothing like how high film genre.

736
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: It's boring. So I think we're kind of like, I

737
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: feel bad for pot filmmakers.

738
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: They're totally out of work pot filmmakers or just you know,

739
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: clogging up the unemployment.

740
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you anyway, ice creams that sell drugs. They're

741
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: not super fun or funny, right, but you might think they.

742
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Are fun and they are funny.

743
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: What will be the bad side of what you wan hard

744
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: drugs Like. I found a bunch of stories of like

745
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: ice cream trucks that were selling drugs in reality not

746
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: nearly as fun.

747
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: No.

748
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: I found a story for two thousand and five a

749
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: dude selling cocaine out of an ice cream truck the

750
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: park in Cincinnati. And when I say selling cocaine out

751
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: of an ice cream truck, this dude was pushing weight,

752
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: bro pushing. Well, yeah, when the cops they see this

753
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: one guy go up to the ice cream truck and

754
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: he gets something, he shoves it in his pocket, and

755
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: then they go round up and they arrest that guy.

756
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: Right and what the kid is shoved into his pocket

757
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: is obvious. Seen that ice cream. It's a half kilo

758
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: I had.

759
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: It's not a it's a costco, it's a distributor.

760
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: It was a reup, That's what that was.

761
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: Wow, a Cincinnati ice cream truck is a great epheman

762
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: sounds so dirty right away, Cincinnati ice cream.

763
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: And the ice cream truck slipped away somehow. They're like, oh,

764
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: just left the park, Like.

765
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: Okay about that, Like get an ice cream too, and

766
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: then take that backt like you're putting your change exactly,

767
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: and then some cops get the kids.

768
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: Some cops go up to the place they just gave

769
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: the kid the thing he shoved in his pocket. I

770
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: think maybe two cops here.

771
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

772
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was found a story from two thousand and seven,

773
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: but some dudes were selling pot to kids out of

774
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: the ice cream truck. Yeah, and again kind of laying

775
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: because it's like selling pot to school kids out of

776
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: an ice cream truck.

777
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: Cool.

778
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's only funny in a movie, and it's

779
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: not even really funny in a movie even then, it's

780
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: like it's also I found another story from southern California

781
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: where these guys were selling BB guns to school kids

782
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: out of their ice cream truck.

783
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny.

784
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get this. The BB guns were hyper realistic looking.

785
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: Oh not funny, right exactly.

786
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: It's the exact opposite of what Southern California cops need

787
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: is more kids like with like guns in their hands

788
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: were like, oh I thought it was a gun.

789
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 3: Well just be like they're selling all the like kid

790
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: contraband stuff.

791
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 7: Baby guns and like Pokemon cards, throwing stars and like

792
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 7: actual contraband, Yeah, exact firecrackers, Chinese finger traps, old playboys, Elizabeth, if.

793
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: You had an ice cream truck, what contraband would you

794
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: sell out of the back?

795
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh, it has to be contrabands.

796
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you set their page.

797
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: I guess it did c page. I don't know if

798
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: think drugs are.

799
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: Kind of you know, I imagine you something like illegal wigs.

800
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah when they when when well, the.

801
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: Fascists takeover makes illegal then yeah, I'm going to be

802
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: the whigs supply fright wigs. Yeah, various costumes.

803
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you're like your your best afro wigs like

804
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: not ones they don't dan easily.

805
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to pick them zerin, What would

806
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 3: you sell?

807
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that. I'm not going to

808
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: criminate myself. I may have future plans, Elizabeth. Let's take

809
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: a little break instead, and then when we get back,

810
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: I will tell you about anti ice cream truck police

811
00:35:36,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: actions and other fun things. Hey, Elizabeth, Zaren, how you

812
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: cooking over? There?

813
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: Is really warming right now?

814
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep talk about ice cream. I hope it

815
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: cools up down here at least your thoughts.

816
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

817
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: Now you may be won drink since I already hyped it.

818
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: Are there any anti ice cream truck police actions. Great question, Elizabeth.

819
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad I asked them.

820
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's right on points I wonder that time,

821
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: and you would be correct there are Okay, so let's

822
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: go back to New York, because of course New York

823
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: City would have run an anti ice cream truck police

824
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: operation in twenty nineteen. The Sheriff of New York. And yes,

825
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: there is a Sheriff of New York. His name is

826
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: Joseph Facido, and he's been Sheriff of New York dating

827
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: back to like the ed Cox days. Like, how am

828
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I going back then? Oh? Yeah, so Joey Faicido, Sheriff

829
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: of New York. He means business because you gotta you know,

830
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: he got New York. Baby. Yeah, he walks into like

831
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: the saloons in New York. It's like, oh, you urban cowboys,

832
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: listen to me. Anyway, Starting back in twenty seventeen, the

833
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: Sheriff of New York and his City of New York

834
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: Finance department, working hand in hand, had both noticed this

835
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: worrying trend. The trend was this Elizabeth parking speeding in

836
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: red light tickets were going unpaid, huge swaths of them,

837
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: and they looked and they noticed that one of the

838
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: major bad actors was the ice cream man. Yeah, ice

839
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: cream trucks. They wouldn't get speeding tickets, obviously, but they

840
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: were racking up parking tickets for mostly for illegal double

841
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: parking and then running red lights like yeah, right, slow

842
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: and low. So the sheriff told the finance department that

843
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: his office had a solution for all the lost millions

844
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: in parking tickets. It was an old law, but it

845
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: was like older and ice cream. U. See, they have

846
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: enough unpaid tickets, and the sheriff can seize your property

847
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: in your money in order to satisfy the unpaid debts

848
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: to your county's common Yeah. So the sheriff started to

849
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: grab the property of the worst defenders. And so the

850
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: authority starts to identify these ones. They can identify seventy

851
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: six ice cream trucks that they target, and these seventy

852
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: six trucks were responsible for four and a half million

853
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: in traffic fines. What just seventy six of these? Yes,

854
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: So the ice cream trucks, they all had names like

855
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Softy Taste and super Softy Express. You always had Softy

856
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: with two e's in the name.

857
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

858
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: Anyway, the sheriff planned to the seventy six trucks, except

859
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: the authorities discovered the owners of these seventy six ice

860
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: cream trucks transferred the ownership of the quote ticketed trucks

861
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: to dummy corporate entities for less than fair value, and

862
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: then those trucks were sold and resold quote among a

863
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: host of shell corporations.

864
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

865
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: So after a few times of coming for ice cream

866
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: trucks only to learn that they've been sold, the sheriff

867
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: gets smart, the Sheriff's department, He goes to court and

868
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 2: he argues in this secret court order that quote, knowing

869
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: of the process and timeline, the owners of ice cream

870
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: truck conspiracy rapidly transfer the registrations to other shell corporations.

871
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: And so the sheriff was forced to file his secret

872
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: court order that would allow the sheriff to plan for

873
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: and I quote, the surprise seizure of the forty six

874
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: trucks with the most fines outstanding, under the theory that

875
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: they had been fraudulently transferred. Yeah. So they're like, we

876
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 2: don't Caro owns them. Where we're grabbing the trucks? Yeah,

877
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: get the court goes forth. They're like, yeah, I have that.

878
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Oh oh man, where's my gavel? All right? The city

879
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: they had numbers, Elizabeth, they had photos to make the case.

880
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: So the New York Post and I quote pointed out

881
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: between twenty twelve and twenty seventeen in the Midtown alone,

882
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: the trucks racked up eight hundred and forty six crosswalk violations,

883
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: ninety three red light violations, and sixty three handicapped ramp violations,

884
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: part of their more than twenty two thousand in total summonses.

885
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 6: Wow.

886
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, the order gets granted by a judge. He's like,

887
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: we got to stop this. We're endangering people and in

888
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: handicapped spaces. This is insane.

889
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Take them up.

890
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: Sheriff of New York launches his operation. The departments able

891
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: to go out there and seize thirty four of these

892
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: trucks in a coordinated raid. Right with their new order

893
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: in place, the one has to assume, though, that the

894
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: ice cream truck companies will do what the big boys

895
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: do with Dame Lee Ups and fed X who these

896
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: delivery giants they also have to deal with the same issue.

897
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: So what did they do? Will they just consider New

898
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: York parking tickets and red light tickets to be quote

899
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: a cost of doing business. Oh yeah, so they just

900
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: keep on double parking, running reds parking, and handicap spaces,

901
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: and they just pay for the privilege of not caring.

902
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

903
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: So you would also think, though, for the ice cream

904
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: truck guys, that paying parking tickets would be cheaper than

905
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: a establishing offshore show companies constantly selling and reselling ice

906
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: cream trucks paying the lawyer fees to fill that paperwork.

907
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: Apparently not apparently not apparently, not even at a small scale. Huh. Interesting. Yeah,

908
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: now you always call it UPS. I say UPS.

909
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: It's interesting, So UPS.

910
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just wondering. Am I wrong?

911
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: No?

912
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: I We're both right.

913
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where I picked up ups. UPS.

914
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: It makes more sense.

915
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: I think it's like what my grandparents said when I

916
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: was because they were the first people I know who

917
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: got packages from UPS. I was associated with them. Okay,

918
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: you know whatever.

919
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm just wondering, like, am I going around like no?

920
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: No, everyone else usually says the thing right, and I'm

921
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: usually wrong. If there's anything one of those there, I

922
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: noticed you said something quite different than everybody else. Just

923
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: assume that means Zaren is wrong. It's me just either

924
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: doesn't care or doesn't know. Okay, Elizabeth more ice cold ridiculousness,

925
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: You're okay. This next one I got for you comes

926
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: from Sacramento again. Yes, back to aka the Big Timato

927
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: aka the Big Easy Chair, aka the City that Always sleeps.

928
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: This is Sacramento. Okay. This one is from much closer

929
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: to time now, twenty nineteen. It was around one thirty

930
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: pm on a Wednesday afternoon in Rancho Cordova.

931
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

932
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Yes, a man, for reasons only he could explain, decided

933
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: to carjack an ice cream truck. He's just like, I

934
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: gotta have that.

935
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

936
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh he went up and he took the ice cream

937
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: truck at gunpoint, and he was at the intersection of

938
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald Road in Sunrise Boulevard. Yeah, I know. That is

939
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: after he carjacked the ice cream truck. The man made

940
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: his slow getaway. I guess he wasn't used to driving

941
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: a truck with that little power because he crashes into

942
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: a ditch.

943
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: Wait.

944
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, at this point a woman.

945
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: He would think if you were used to something with

946
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: more power, you'd be more likely to crash that the

947
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: less power.

948
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: If you're trying to make a hard turn. It's not

949
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: gonna do it. You jam up the wheels. I don't

950
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: know well anyway, he crashed into a ditch. So at

951
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: that point, a woman in a black BMW pulls over.

952
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: She saw the ice cream truck go into the ditch.

953
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 2: I'll be like you. She's worried that the driver was hurt.

954
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: The carjacker though that was hit the victim. They're fine.

955
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: He hops out from the crashed ice cream truck. He

956
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: runs over to the black BMW steals that speeds away

957
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: and this woman at this point, if you can believe it,

958
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: deputies had been responding to a call and they were

959
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: on the scene, and they were close enough that they

960
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: could order the woman to walk toward the deputies, which

961
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 2: happened while the carjacker was sliding into the driver's scene

962
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: of her bamer. He took off, so she and the

963
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: deputies watched together as her car disappeared. Oh my god,

964
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: if the driver didn't make it far though he's not

965
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 2: good this stealing cars. He made the turn at Douglas

966
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: Road and headed westbound towards Zenfandel Drive. I'm offering I'm

967
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: naming all these streets like iced t at six in

968
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: the morning, because Elizabeth, I know, you know all these streets.

969
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: So at Zinfandel, the carjacker in the black BMW. He's

970
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: speeding along and then all of a sudden, I guess,

971
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: some red compact car pulls out boom hits. That causes

972
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: that car to roll. Driver's fine. At that point, the

973
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: carjacker hops out of his rec BMW. He's fine, starts

974
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: running a field. He's like, to help with cars, I'm

975
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: no good at driving. The deputies they can't be far

976
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: behind anyway, so he's like, really high tail it. Swat

977
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: comes in. They're able to surround the guy and they

978
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: arrest him in the field and they're like, sir, thank

979
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: god you got out of cars right. So yeah, there

980
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: you go, Sacramento.

981
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 3: Do you just imagine trying to carjack an ice cream truck.

982
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: It's like that's your first moved, and it's that's.

983
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: Your first move and the attention you're gonna draw to yourself,

984
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: like you know, people carjack things and then slip off

985
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: of London with traffic. He's just like, okay, I'm blaring this.

986
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: He doesn't turn the music off, so it's just.

987
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: Going going at fifteen down the street.

988
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: So now you're ready for an ice cream truck war.

989
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: You kind of mentioned one earlier back over in Scotland. Yea, yeah,

990
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to tell that one because the murders.

991
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it falls outside of our purview.

992
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: We would we would take up like three years worth

993
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: of one percent. Anyway, First up, I got one for

994
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: you from pa Aka penns Woods aka Pennsylvania, Okay and Uniontown, Pennsylvania.

995
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: There were these two ice cream truck drivers and apparently

996
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: they had beef, like real beef.

997
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: They were selling beef out of the ice cream.

998
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: They were selling the beefs ground beef. Now they've been

999
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: babbling over the best corners, you know, like like corner

1000
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: boys pushing the colco. Anyway, on this day, the two

1001
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: ice cream truck drivers they see each other, Tempers flare hot,

1002
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: angry words get exchanged. Cussing follows, and then one of

1003
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: the ice cream truck drivers drives the other one off

1004
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: the road, like wow, a carcore off the road, right yeah.

1005
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: The victim the unnamed owner of one of the trucks

1006
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: from Miss Poly's Sweet Treats. He spoke with the press afterward,

1007
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: and he claimed that his rival ice cream man a

1008
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: twenty nine year old named Bernard Geisel was the problem,

1009
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: and it wasn't the first time. This Geisle's man, he's crazy.

1010
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 2: So it seems like he was right because just days later,

1011
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: Geissel gets into it with his own boss. He shows

1012
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: up at his boss's home with a baseball bat, wanting

1013
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: to talk about how he's not getting paid enough. Yeah, totally.

1014
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: You didn't realize ice cream business was like this.

1015
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: I just want footage of one ice cream truck running

1016
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: another off the road, amazing, and then like the kids

1017
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: just being like yeah, hip over took over.

1018
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: If they don't even help the driver, they just push

1019
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: him out of the way, all right, so please survive.

1020
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: On the scene, they arrest this cat Geisel, and you'll

1021
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: never expect that an ice cream man will go full

1022
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Cartel on you like that until they do. No, but

1023
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: perhaps we should from now on, I think.

1024
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 6: So.

1025
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, I got another one for you. Yeah, works on

1026
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: a whole other level. Back in twenty twelve, in upstate

1027
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: New York, there was a whole kosher ice cream war

1028
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: between two companies. Oh really yes, location Sullivan County. On

1029
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: July fifteenth, twenty twelve, two young ice cream men Joseph

1030
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: Isikoff twenty five and Ben jamine Yitzakoff twenty one decided

1031
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: to use the threats and intimidation to persuade their competitor

1032
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: to get out of the ice cream business. Yes, so

1033
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: what did they do, Elizabeth. They hopped into the ice

1034
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: cream truck or their rival, because he got the open door,

1035
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: so you're just VULNERI hole. So they just hop in

1036
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: and they start threatening him. They shout, they harass them.

1037
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: Their rival, Levy Habitshov, he's thirty four, right. He starts

1038
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: saying like, wait, leave me alone, let me cut out

1039
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: of my ice cream truck. They're like, oh yeah, They

1040
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: steal his iPad and then hop out of his truck.

1041
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: The whole incident is recorded on the ice cream truck

1042
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: surveillance camera exactly. So they go. He goes right down

1043
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: to the cop shop. He's like, let me play the video.

1044
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1045
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: So none of these ice cream men were locals. They

1046
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: were all in the Catskills to sell their ice cream.

1047
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: They'd driven their ice cream trucks to the Catskills from Brooklyn.

1048
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: Oh, and they don't need to make it work.

1049
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: So these two rival ice cream truck impressarios, they spot

1050
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: each other selling kosher ice cream at like the Haredi

1051
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: camps and the Catskills, and it's on.

1052
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: But I feel like there's enough. There are enough customers

1053
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: for everybody.

1054
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, there's enough kosher ice cream to go around. There

1055
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: enough customers to go around. Yeah, we're good. Nope. After

1056
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: the altercation, Levy, as I told you, goes to the

1057
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: police and then they bring charges against Joseph and Benjamin.

1058
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: The two ice cream men surrendered to police without incident,

1059
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: so that's at least that they didn't bring out the heaters.

1060
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: Come on, Coprence, you'll never take me alive.

1061
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: Just throwing, like you know, various ice cream novelties them.

1062
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: They got a semi automatic fudge pop gun pop pop men. Eventually,

1063
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: as I told you, charge they get released. But the

1064
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: drama was not over, Elizabeth. Oh, yes, because according to

1065
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: Sheriff's Sergeant Ed Klaus, they are competing for business at

1066
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: all the camps. All three men are still out there working.

1067
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: We get calls once or twice a week that one

1068
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: has looked at the other one funny, So tensions may

1069
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: rise again. This is twenty twelve. We should be past it,

1070
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: I hope. So, Elizabeth, I saved the best for last, okay,

1071
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: which brings us to my absolute favorite of all the

1072
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: ice cream truck chase stories. This one we have to

1073
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: dip down to NASCAR country. The year was nineteen eighty two.

1074
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: The location Boone, North Carolina.

1075
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: I know we're Boone.

1076
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: You know Boone?

1077
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I was wondering it was named for Daniel Boone

1078
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: in the mountains. Yeah, it's a small town of nineteen

1079
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: thousand up in the high country of the western North

1080
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: Carolina in the Blue Ridge Mountains. The story goes, a

1081
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: man named Christopher Wadis broke out of the County Mental

1082
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 2: Hospital aka the Wataga Mental Institute over in Johnson City.

1083
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: How much if you know that. But anyway, once he

1084
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: was free of the mental hospital, he stole a nineteen

1085
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: seventy nine Chevy Camaro and he sped off into the night.

1086
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: And at this point we're in nineteen eighty two. This

1087
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: is a three year old Chevy Camaro, so it's still

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00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: like a one boss level Camaro totally. And I could

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00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: just tell you what he does next, but instead I'd

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00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: prefer to Elizabeth, if you would close.

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Speaker 3: Your eyes, oh my eyes a close, and I'd like.

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Speaker 2: You to picture it. It's a cool, calm November night

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00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: in the Blue Ridge Mountains. The air is crisp with

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00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: the feel and the smell of autumn. Air whips into

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00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: the open window and lifts your hair with the wind

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Speaker 2: of speed. You, Elizabeth, are behind the wheel of a

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Speaker 2: stolen Camaro and you were also a recent escapee from

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Speaker 2: a state mental hospital. N Tracks, Elizabeth, you're free, thank god.

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Speaker 2: At the moment you're racing down the mountains, you've been

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Speaker 2: driving for a long while, ever since you busted out

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Speaker 2: of that mental hospital. And boy, could you use a

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: bite of food. You see a sign for the Mountain

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Speaker 2: Pancake House. That sounds good, so you tap the brakes

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Speaker 2: on your Camaro and throw it into a drifting power

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00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: slide and come into the parking lot sideways. You slide

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Speaker 2: the Camaro to a gentle stop, turning off the rumbling engine,

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Speaker 2: and you hop out. The heavy door slams shut. You

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Speaker 2: take a few steps across the parking lot, headed to

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Speaker 2: the Mountain Pancake House. When you stop in place, you

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00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: look at what's caught your eye. It's beautiful. Just the

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00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: side of it makes you happy. You have to have it.

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00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: You walk towards it. When you get close. You gasp

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00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: when you see that the driver left the keys. They

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00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: actually left the keys in the ice cream truck. The

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Speaker 2: sealed test ice cream truck is calling you. Come on,

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Speaker 2: drive me. We canna have so much fun. Come on,

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Speaker 2: do it, drive me. You listen to the ice cream truck,

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Speaker 2: you decide to hell with the Mountain Pancake House instead.

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00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: You turn the key of the ice cream truck. The

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Speaker 2: engine turns over, the sing song music starts right up.

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Speaker 2: You throw that bad boyd reverse, you drive off. You

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00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: floor it now. You sort of putt put down the

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Speaker 2: US four twenty one highway coming down out of the

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Speaker 2: Blue Ridge Mountains, headed down into Wilkes County. The half

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Speaker 2: speed of the ice cream truck and the song bumping

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Speaker 2: from the speakers seemed like it would be a lot

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Speaker 2: more fun than it is. When you spot the pine

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Speaker 2: View Restaurant there at the Interstate seventy seven junction in

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Speaker 2: Yadkin County, your stomach is still grumbling and you are

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Speaker 2: pretty damn sick of that song. So you turn into

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Speaker 2: the parking lot of the pine View Restaurant. You hit

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00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: the brakes, ice cream truck slides to a stop. You

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00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: hop out and run for an eighteen wheeler feed truck

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00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: that you see in the parking lot. You cannot believe

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00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: your luck. The truck is not only unlocked, but the

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00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: driver left the keys in his rig. Oh, nineteen eighty two.

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00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: How could you be so trusting? Anyway, you try to

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00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: remember what you know about the gearbox of a big rig,

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00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: and you do somehow remember to get it into gear.

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00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: You turn the engine on. That bad boy rumbles to life.

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00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: You give a blast of the big rig's horn and

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Speaker 2: then floor it. It rumbles forward, and you decide, he'll

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00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: head that up the mountain, because who would look for

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00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: you there? Meanwhile, Captain's sane Tester is on the case.

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00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: He's arrived at the mountain pancake house. He speaks with

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00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: the owner of the stolen ice cream truck, who's in

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: a panic. He's been pursuing you down the mountain, but

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00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: he's looking for a stolen ice cream truck. He doesn't

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00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: notice that you are going the other way in your

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00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: newly stolen big rig. Hong Kong, Captain Zaye Tester. He

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00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: gets flagged down by the angry trucker who's big rig

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00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: you just stole? And he tells Captain Zaine tester that

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00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: you went up the mountain. The Zane tester runs back

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00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: to his careis he tears off, speeding back up the mountain.

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: Sireen's on Captain Zaane Tester radios ahead to the Wataga

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Department has them set up a roadblock on

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Speaker 2: Highway four twenty one. You don't know this, Elizabeth, and

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: you're headed right at that roadblock. Meanwhile, you're just rocking

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00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: and rolling in your stolen rig, listening to some outlaw

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00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: country music, singing along like you're Jerry Reid and smoking

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00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: in the bandit. And then you see it, the sheriff's

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00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: roadblock there in the road in front of you. You

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00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: think for a moment, should you floor it? Should you

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: just shove through the cops and smash up the roade block.

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00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: But that would almost guarantee someone gets hurt. That's not

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00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: your style. You don't want to do that. You just

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00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: want to go for a drive, enjoy a little freedom,

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00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: the field, the sound of the road. So you down

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00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: shift that big rig and you pull your stolen rig

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00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: over to a stop. At least you no longer have

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: to listen to that damn ice cream truck song. What

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Speaker 2: a ride.

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00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: Huh.

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00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: So one's the twenty two year old Gaddis was grabbed

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00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: at the roadblock you. He gets arrested and charged with felony,

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00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: auto larceny, failure to stop for a blue light and sirens,

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00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: speeding to avoid arrest, and reckless driving. Okay, not bad.

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00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: I thought he'd get a lot more charges.

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00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well those those are pretty good.

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00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: No, those are good. You got a felony, so you're

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: gonna get some time. Yeah, anyway, not bad for a

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: Mountaintown a joy ride. So there you go. A full

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00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: menu of ice cream truck crimes so good, all of

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00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: them ridiculous, so good. So Elizabeth, what's are ridiculous take away? Here?

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Speaker 3: You know what we need to do as soon as

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: we're done is to go get some ice cream.

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00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I'm by melting and I may steal it. Yeah,

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00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: we'll see allen ice cream taste best. Yes, it does,

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: my ridiculous takeaway? Thanks for asking?

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Speaker 6: Is.

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00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: I think it would be so much fun to steal

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: an ice cream truck with you? It would be super

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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: It's some of our best interests aligned me and a

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00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: stolen vehicle. You going slow with ice cream? It's right?

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean, it makes so much sense.

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00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just looking out for a future.

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00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 2: Maybe we're going together next summer, I think so. Yeah,

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00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: well we'll spend this summer planning. Yes, yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: want to go in all heated.

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Speaker 3: You have to have your your exit plan.

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00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: Yes, you know it.

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: Well that's what we've learned.

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00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: So pretty so you got an exit plan for this

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: with a talkback.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love cheat.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Elizabeth ands Aaron. This is Adam from Toronto, Ontario.

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Speaker 6: I just listened to the Roofman episode and y'all need

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00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 6: to come to Canada. We have McDonald's, we have Burger King,

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Speaker 6: and we still have Toys r US Endless crime opportunity.

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Speaker 6: That is love the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man. Wait, you guys still got toys r US

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Speaker 2: up there, Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffrey, we're coming that way. I'm talking to the giraffe.

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Speaker 2: Well that's all I got for you, guys. As always,

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00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,000
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