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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. It's accepting Tailgate invits. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Chris Whistling, Kevin Patra and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up boys? Okay Rich behind the glass?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Kay Ridge? What's up? Guys? Nice to be back?

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Speaker 1: Tough loss for the Eagles? Is that how you welcome

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Speaker 1: me back? When when it comes to Sunday? That's what

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Speaker 1: I think about when I think of k Rich, I

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Speaker 1: think of the Eiggles. I'm still waiting for Dance to

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Speaker 1: say what up? Boys in real life just be like,

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Speaker 1: call me up and say that that could happen. It

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Speaker 1: really could, because it's just a matter of when. Never

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Speaker 1: he never walks into the office and says that. Again,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to how popular this podcast gets. If

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Speaker 1: the podcast does go global and egos start to just

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Speaker 1: swore all out of control, I'll probably start speaking of

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Speaker 1: myself in the third person and addressing everyone starting every

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Speaker 1: other comment by what you're gonna turn yourself into? The

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Speaker 1: poly shore of podcast Poli show is rich? Or maybe

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Speaker 1: money is not everything? All right? So this is Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: This is a big week. We're gonna get to all

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Speaker 1: the games, of course, But I guess from a big

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Speaker 1: picture perspective, Um, the playoffs, I want to say, the

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Speaker 1: playoffs came to focus of anything. Things are just as

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Speaker 1: wide open as they were when we came into the day, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I guess I was thinking that the playoffs spots. Um,

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Speaker 1: the wild card has decided. In the a f C,

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Speaker 1: it's still the race for the six seed, basically all

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Speaker 1: the a f C powers. If we were looking for

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Speaker 1: a theme, it's the top a f C teams have

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Speaker 1: not been playing that well lately. Yeah, nobody wants They've

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Speaker 1: all lost twice in the last few weeks. Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: the number two seed in the a f C. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Kevin Patrack is sitting in the Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: chair specifically on purpose. I the we're platooning this chair. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought you meant like you marking your territory. If

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Speaker 1: Mark just goes missing and Kevin stays and he just started,

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Speaker 1: he starts acting peculiar, and we have to start off questions.

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Speaker 1: Yes we have a Sessler, that Sessler could go missing. Um, all,

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Speaker 1: let's get back on track. So Yes, that was a

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Speaker 1: interesting day football. But I guess where we should start,

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Speaker 1: because this is where we have to start. Is the

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Speaker 1: game that everyone will be talking about. Talking heads will

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Speaker 1: explode um all throughout the early part of the week.

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Speaker 1: Uh Matt Flynn through four touchdown passes in the second half,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey had the winning score in a one yard

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Speaker 1: plunge and the Green Bay Packers match the biggest comeback

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Speaker 1: and franchise history, rallying from twenty three points down at

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Speaker 1: halftime to beat the Dallas Cowboys thirty seven thirty six. Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo had two interceptions in the final three minutes,

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Speaker 1: some curious play calling by Jason Garrett. After the game,

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Speaker 1: I felt this was potentially something where Garrett will not

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Speaker 1: Garrett away from the ledge of getting thrown off it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you asked the question what could Garrett do to possibly

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Speaker 1: recover from this, and it's an easy answer. You win

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Speaker 1: you recover. It's pretty I mean, it's not that fatal

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Speaker 1: It's more fatal in the sense that of all the

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett era has been a series of ways to

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Speaker 1: inflict more and more pain on Cowboys fans. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if we can top this one. They're never gonna top

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Speaker 1: this one. Five touchdowns in the second half to a

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Speaker 1: Matt Flynn led team. Matt Flynn. The biggest comeback in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers storied history was all in the second

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Speaker 1: Cowboys history they've ever given up a twenty one point

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Speaker 1: lead at halftime. They had the most yards in how

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Speaker 1: for creativity. He keeps coming up with new ways. Tony

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Speaker 1: If he makes either throw, they win the game. The

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Speaker 1: understand that he's gonna get buried and he deserves it

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Speaker 1: because it's one thing to throw that first pick. But

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Speaker 1: basically blew the game twice. And you can't convince me otherwise.

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Speaker 1: This is People are gonna try to put it on Garrett,

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Speaker 1: but this goes on the quarterback for blowing this. You

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Speaker 1: also have to put it on the defense too. You

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Speaker 1: cannot give up. You can't give up five straight touchdowns

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's a bad quarterback now, but

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Speaker 1: think Tony Romo is like the being John Malkovich of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He has just decided he's He's just gonna become Hamlet.

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Speaker 1: This was a clutch performs by the Packers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: very possible they could win the They're there. They have

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Speaker 1: They'll be in great shape. But the Packer season was

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Speaker 1: I think it was hard to pull out. McCom was

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Speaker 1: He threw two interceptions, right, you were killing him at

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Speaker 1: you now, Patrick, because you were in the office today.

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Speaker 1: did today. The Bears were clearly the better team. The

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Speaker 1: can't defend the run, and and Cutler made some plays

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Speaker 1: He had the better receivers and that's was that was huge.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how Browns fans feel about watching Bobby Rainey

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Speaker 1: mcgahey every week. Well, there there was no mcgahey this week.

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Speaker 1: I would just want to list the names of the

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Speaker 1: players that carried the ball on runs for the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brass Date. Let's go through them. Edwin and Baker, Michigan

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Speaker 1: Chris oban I next, and then Fozzy Whittaker. What a

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Speaker 1: the Browns. I think this this game played out exactly

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Speaker 1: They were gonna score over thirty points and give up

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Speaker 1: You could tell. Let's talk for a second about how

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Speaker 1: fascinating next Sunday night's gonna be. I guess we're gonna

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Speaker 1: week seventeen and Eagles Cowboys in weeks. This Cutler story

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Speaker 1: at least ten games in six straight seasons. Sorry, Mark,

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Speaker 1: he had a Mondola one on one and he did

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Speaker 1: not make a good throw. I think they could have

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Speaker 1: won the game right there. They were trying to win

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Speaker 1: the division on the road against a big rival. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was frustrated. They didn't have their two rookies either,

431
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Speaker 1: Dobson and Tompkins, which hurt their ability to go deep.

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask you this, with the Patriots letting this

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Speaker 1: opportunity to slip away or the Broncos now, And I'll

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Speaker 1: ask you Kevin Patrick, in your mind the heavy favorite

435
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Speaker 1: for that number one seed, Yes, I think with the

436
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Speaker 1: way their schedule lines up, I think that they should

437
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Speaker 1: win out and then they would get the top seed

438
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Speaker 1: in the What is the Broncos schedules last two weeks

439
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Speaker 1: at Houston? And yes, so they should win going away

440
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Speaker 1: that it's gonna that if the Patriots can somehow make

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Speaker 1: the a f C Championship, they'll they'll think back to

442
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Speaker 1: this game and that's the reason why they're not in

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Speaker 1: Fox bro It's a killer. Marshawn Lynch scored on a

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Speaker 1: twisting two yard run and the Seahawks picked off five

445
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning passes. Man handling the New York Giants twenty

446
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Speaker 1: three nothing Sunday at the meadow Lands. Uh, you know,

447
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Speaker 1: I watched this game fairly closely, and uh, it was

448
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Speaker 1: not fun to watch the Giants, you know, for all

449
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Speaker 1: for all the puff pieces that I feel like I've

450
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Speaker 1: come across this season about how the Giants never gave

451
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Speaker 1: up even at oh in six, and they fought hard

452
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Speaker 1: for their coach. Team did not look like they were

453
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Speaker 1: invested in in this game at all, and they were

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Speaker 1: all obviously outclassed personnel wise. But you know, the big

455
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Speaker 1: story for me, other than the Seahawks engine closer to

456
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Speaker 1: the the number one overall seed in the NFC, is

457
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, who just he has become a liability for

458
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Speaker 1: this team, and it is the under the radar story

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Speaker 1: that no one's talking about. Um. I know, Greg, you're

460
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Speaker 1: not a big Giants Eli coughlanera fan, but you know,

461
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Speaker 1: I'm more of a guy that will give them credit

462
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Speaker 1: for what they achieved. But we can't just look away

463
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Speaker 1: and not see what happened this year with Eli right west,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this on Friday. Nobody's really talking about

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Speaker 1: how bad elis Man he's been, but he's he's been

466
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Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be a franchise guy, and I think

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Speaker 1: probably it has to extend to Kevin Gilbride. This offense

469
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Speaker 1: is terrible. They had between two thousand twelve shut out

470
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Speaker 1: one time in two and fifty six games. They have

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Speaker 1: been shut out twice this year. And their personnel isn't

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Speaker 1: terrible on offense. New York is now five and nine.

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Speaker 1: They head into the offseason first losing record since two

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Speaker 1: thousand four. UM, so they you know, they're in a

475
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Speaker 1: weird places of franchise right now. The Seahawks. UM. I

476
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Speaker 1: think other things I took out of this game, Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about defensive Player of the Year candidates.

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Speaker 1: He had two interceptions today. He has a share of

479
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Speaker 1: the league lead with six UM. Obviously, interceptions don't tell

480
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Speaker 1: the whole story. But he's been as good as advertised.

481
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Speaker 1: He's backed up his play and he's the leader of

482
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Speaker 1: the secondary of the best defense in football. So he

483
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Speaker 1: deserves to be in the conversation No, he's Earl Thomas

484
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Speaker 1: as a leader of that secondary and probably should be

485
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Speaker 1: the defensive player of the Year over Richard. They could

486
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Speaker 1: split votes. The shermanator that his nickname, I don't even

487
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Speaker 1: know it's Dan. Are you ready to give up on

488
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Speaker 1: your prediction that the Giants will play a meaningful game

489
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Speaker 1: in December? Well, I left a lot of wiggle room there,

490
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Speaker 1: and basically the Seahawks this is a big game for them,

491
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Speaker 1: got that for a seed, so this was fairly meaningful.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I don't know, That's the best I

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Speaker 1: could do. Matt Castle passed for three two yards and

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and ran for another score to lead the

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Speaker 1: injury depleted Vikings to at thirty victory over the Eagles

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, snapping Phillies five game winning streak Um West.

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Speaker 1: Is it just me or the Vikings a little frisky?

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Speaker 1: I had two main takeaways from from this game. That

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Speaker 1: was one of them. They've They've been competitive in eleven

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Speaker 1: and fourteen games this year, and to me, Leslie Fraser

501
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Speaker 1: should be fired for the same reason. LOVEE. Smith should

502
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Speaker 1: have been fired before he was in Chicago. He has

503
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Speaker 1: no clue about the quarterback position. Matt Castle is three

504
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Speaker 1: and two as Vikings starter. The other guys are one

505
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Speaker 1: and eight. I think that's the difference right there. He

506
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Speaker 1: couldn't identify his best quarterback. Well, we had our guys

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Speaker 1: um Ian Rapp report and Mike Silver reported earlier today

508
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Speaker 1: before the games that number one, uh frasier is his

509
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Speaker 1: his chances of surviving. Look grim, I think was the

510
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Speaker 1: exact word. And the other report that we're getting is

511
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Speaker 1: that inside the building, it appears that Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: the guy they're gonna hold on too. They're gonna look

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Speaker 1: to trade Ponder. They're gonna dump Josh Freeman obviously, who

514
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Speaker 1: was just collecting paychecks. Uh, and then draft a quarterback

515
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Speaker 1: up high. And I guess all this will happen with

516
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Speaker 1: a new coach leading the way, hopefully somebody that knows

517
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Speaker 1: how to handle the position. We're gonna trade Ponder for

518
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Speaker 1: bag of pretzels. I think late rounder is their goal.

519
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know which is basically decent to

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Speaker 1: go on West's point, if if the game ended at

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Speaker 1: fifty nine minutes, the Vikings would be nine and six

522
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Speaker 1: right now, they will be winning the NFC North. That

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Speaker 1: just they can't close games. There was another crazy stat

524
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Speaker 1: with Castle. There's five fifty yard passing yard passing games

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Speaker 1: by Vikings quarterback this year, all five by Matt Castle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's completely different. I surrendered Greg and I had this

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Speaker 1: debate before the year, but who was better between Ponder

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Speaker 1: and Castle? I chose Ponder and I couldn't have been

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Speaker 1: more wrong. Hey, and let's give some love to Matt Asiata.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got your money's worth with him today.

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Speaker 1: Thirty carries for fifty one yards does not deserve an

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Speaker 1: is my favorite stat. Lines evered one point seven yards

533
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Speaker 1: per carry and on thirty carries never had to run

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Speaker 1: longer than ten yards. It was like something out of

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Speaker 1: mid season. Ray Rice Guy's got a nose for the

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Speaker 1: end zone. Thought that it was like a guy that

537
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Speaker 1: got a free tank of gas with their rental car

538
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Speaker 1: and then so they just keep driving around so that

539
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Speaker 1: they use it up just for the value of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what it was. The other takeaway was

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Speaker 1: the Eagles secondary got exposed. They had they have been

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Speaker 1: playing better of late, but they also hadn't really faced

543
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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks for almost a two month stretch. Yeah, why

544
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Speaker 1: did we just talk about the Vikings for I don't know,

545
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Speaker 1: I just realized, wait, Philly could have basically won the

546
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Speaker 1: division today or gotten really a big step towards winning

547
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Speaker 1: the division next week. And now their best case scenario

548
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Speaker 1: is going into the final week and needing to beat Dallas,

549
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Speaker 1: and it sets up, Oh, man, if if Dallas had

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Speaker 1: only hold on today, you know, Philadelphia could have easily

551
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Speaker 1: been facing an elimination game on Sunday night against That's

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Speaker 1: a big if. That's what they do though, That's what

553
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys do. They always they always leave you thinking,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, if they just would have done so

555
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Speaker 1: and so. And by the way, the reason that we

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Speaker 1: were only talking about the Vikings that was a pre

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Speaker 1: podcast production note from our producer. Oh thanks, guys, I

558
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Speaker 1: was I was really happy that you guys weren't talking

559
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Speaker 1: about the Eagles. How are you feeling after this one,

560
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: because they're still in you know, pretty good shape. Yeah. Well,

561
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Speaker 1: I'm still confident that they're going to win the division.

562
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just the fandom in me,

563
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Speaker 1: but I was obviously really disappointed, especially in the first half.

564
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Speaker 1: Play it was it was hard to watch. Vernon Davis

565
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Speaker 1: caught a touchdown pass for the fifth straight game, and

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Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree scored his first touchdown since returning from injury

567
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Speaker 1: to help the San Francisco forty Niners beat the Tampa

568
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers thirty three fourteen on Sunday. The win keep

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Speaker 1: San Francisco locked into that sixth seed with two games

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Speaker 1: to play. UM. I watched that this game very closely.

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Speaker 1: I guess of things I took out of it, especially

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Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree. I know West we saw, we all saw it. Um.

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Speaker 1: He got he broke free in his first game back

574
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Speaker 1: last week, and he wasn't maybe moving as well, and

575
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Speaker 1: coming off achilles surgery, you don't expect that he had.

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Speaker 1: The touchdown passed was a four yard um touchdown reception

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Speaker 1: in which he he wiggled around in the back of

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Speaker 1: the end zone, made a quick move to shake himself free.

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Speaker 1: He's moving well. He also got behind the secondary on

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00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: a play in Kaepernick just missed him. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Crabtree as a major factor

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. Uh. And that's a big lift to

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Speaker 1: them because we didn't know what we were going to

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Speaker 1: get from him, or I would say Jim Harbaugh didn't

585
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Speaker 1: know what they were gonna get out of him coming

586
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Speaker 1: off that type of surgery. Give the Around the League

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00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: podcast a Barry Horrowitz slap on the back. Here. We

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Speaker 1: called this the forty Niners a few weeks ago. This

589
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: this is a team. Now they are a different team

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Speaker 1: on offense. With Crabtree there. It allows Vernon Davis to

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Speaker 1: do what he does. It allows Bolden to become the

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Speaker 1: number three guy instead the number one guy, and the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners now to me, are the second best team

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. The Vernon You bring up Vernon Davis,

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Speaker 1: That guy is a freak. I mean he does every

596
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Speaker 1: time I watch him, he's doing something crazy. This time

597
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Speaker 1: he just went on a fly pad and outran the

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Speaker 1: entire secondary, pulled in a touchdown, a fifty two yard touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and slammed into a wall and pop back up. I

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Speaker 1: mean he does things. I know. With all due respect

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Speaker 1: to Jimmy Graham, who is an athletic freak in his

602
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Speaker 1: own right, I like Vernon Davis more than any tight

603
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Speaker 1: end in the league. Now now that Gronk has heard again,

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Speaker 1: he's my favorite tight end and I think he's barn

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Speaker 1: not barn On, but in my opinion, the most talented

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Speaker 1: guy on the field in the NFL. Is there any

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Speaker 1: other player in the league where you feel like, if

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Speaker 1: he wanted to in any game and if the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff let him, he could have a hundred yards in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown every game. But because the coaching staff doesn't

611
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Speaker 1: use him that way, he leaves fantasy owners scratching their

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Speaker 1: heads all the time because you never you have no

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Speaker 1: idea what the game plan is going to be, and

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Speaker 1: you're ted in four Now, I mean they're rolling. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a twelve win team most likely that you

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Speaker 1: know we talked about. You said you think they're the

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Speaker 1: second best team. They now have the second best record.

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Speaker 1: They have the same record as the Saints. In the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: they've snuck up a little and they're stuck in that division,

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Speaker 1: so they're not gonna win the divisions. And if one

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Speaker 1: play goes differently, they win over the Painters and the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Of those were tight losses with key plays, And I

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Speaker 1: agree with you us I think the Saints and we'll

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Speaker 1: get to them a little later, another kind of dispiriting

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Speaker 1: performance from them on the road. Uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Panthers obviously are a team that you have to take seriously.

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Speaker 1: But I think that I think it's what everyone thought

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Speaker 1: going into the season. It's Seattle one, San Francisco too,

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Speaker 1: and let's go to work. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: reasons to be excited for the NFC playoffs. One other note,

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Speaker 1: and we don't need to focus on the Bucks too much.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Greg Siano, Mark Sessler said on Friday's

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Speaker 1: party thought that Siano's job was safe. Greg, I think

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Speaker 1: you agreed. Um. This is now two decisive losses out

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Speaker 1: of three games, and they have two games left, both

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Speaker 1: on the road against St. Louis and New Orleans, not

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Speaker 1: easy matchups. I think he's gonna have to win one

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Speaker 1: of these games to keep his job. It seems so

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640
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Speaker 1: not necessarily right. You're right, it always seems like it's

641
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: arbit try. But it end up making a decision based

642
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: off like one game. It doesn't mean anything. In week sixteen, Well,

643
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: did did Glennon's performance change your mind at all? And this?

644
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: And because I think to me, that's what's gonna be

645
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the he played a little better played over the last

646
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: three weeks, of the season. Yeah, I think that's I

647
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: think it's a good point. Patrick. I think he got

648
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: he got better. He couldn't be much worse than he

649
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: was last week. But I really yeah, I mean, I

650
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: think if they lose out and finish four and twelve,

651
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be hard to uh to me for

652
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: them to bring him back. We'll see. Cam Newton threw

653
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: for two seventy three yards and a touchdown. Captain Munterland

654
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: had two sacks and returned an interception for a touchdown,

655
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: and the Carolina Panthers defeated the New York Jets thirty

656
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: to twenty on Sunday West. This game was more competitive

657
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: than I guess any of us thought, although um, the

658
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Jets killed themselves in the end and turned to actually

659
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: competitive game into a bit of a laugher by the end.

660
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I think you're being very generous to the Jets on

661
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: that one. I guess that it wasn't all that competitive,

662
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: although we did see Sheldon Richardson now has more touchdowns

663
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: than the cheam Nicks this year. You know they used

664
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: them one frigeral by the way, this game wasn't this

665
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: game sixteen thirteen in the fourth quarter, Yeah, and then

666
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers, well, and it only became sixteen thirteen because

667
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Riverboat Rome went forward on fourth down when a field

668
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: goal could have made it. We've created a monster. Yeah,

669
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: and he went for it and against the best run

670
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: defense wall in the league and of course lost it.

671
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: But uh, takeaway, Captain Munnerlin had the game of his life.

672
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: He had that pick six, now owns the Parthers career

673
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: record for most pick sixes with five, had two sacks,

674
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: caused another sack for keek Lee with his pressure, and

675
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: that seemed to be a game plan thing where the

676
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Panthers thought they could get to Gino with a her

677
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: back blitz. Uh. And then another takeaway. De Angela Williams

678
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: looks great. Best he's looked since September at least, and

679
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: maybe going back to last season, that breakaway speed on

680
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: the screen passably eight yard touchdown that Harris had an

681
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: angle on him and missed it. Yeah. And and for

682
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: those of you wondering about the Gino coaster, uh, you

683
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: know it's creaking along. It kind of stalled on on

684
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: the top of one of those loops and now people

685
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: are in danger. There's a lot of lives in jeopardy.

686
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Through another pick six. That's five on the season for

687
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Uh, really exciting. The Saints and Panthers now

688
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: ten and four, and of course, the Saints traveled to

689
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: Charlotte next week, game that could decide the division. Ron

690
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: Rivera's words looking prophetic here, just saying, you know, they

691
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: beat us pretty good here. We'll we'll see what happens

692
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: when they come to Carolina st some issue. That's that's

693
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: the new game of the year next week. I hope

694
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't let us down. Jamal Charles tied a franchise

695
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: record with five touchdowns in one game. UH include four

696
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: receiving for the running back Alex Smith through five touchdown passes.

697
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: And the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Oakland Raiders fifty

698
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: thirty one on Sunday to clinch at least a wild

699
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: card spot. The Chiefs now eleven and three, and they

700
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: become the fourth team ever to make the playoffs a

701
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: year after losing at least fourteen games. But perhaps more

702
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: importantly than anything else we've talked about today, wes your

703
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: softball pants? The answer is no. Yeah. This is the

704
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: first time all year that I feel really comfortable that

705
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: I will not have to eat metal zippers, and yeah,

706
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about it. Now, Well, they gotta

707
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: win out now, which they're obviously not gonna do. They're

708
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. And another and you know,

709
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I know, Matt mcloy some people started to get a

710
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: little excited about mcgloyan. But as I guess what, it

711
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: tends to happen sometimes with these undrafted free agents that

712
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: get a shot, they play a little well and we

713
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of get a little excited, and then you know,

714
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: reality hits. He played terribly today and there's very little

715
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: doubt that the Raiders are gonna be looking for a quarterback, right. Yeah,

716
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I agree. I think I've I've certainly learned a lesson

717
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: here with these uh not so talented undrafted guys coming

718
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: in and adding a spark to a more abund offense. Yeah,

719
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: just to make the argument, they did score thirty one points.

720
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: He threw eight point three yards per attempt in two yeards.

721
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: As rookie performances go, this wasn't like a geno coaster crashing.

722
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: How many interceptions for interceptions, that's a factors that I

723
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: put him and keen him in the same category. And

724
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting, like who would you rather have

725
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: as your backup next year? One of those two are

726
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: Christian Ponder. I'd take the two undrafted free agents over

727
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: the first round. Interesting, would you This sounds silly, but

728
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: would you start Terrell Prior the last two games? There?

729
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Nothing matters you have there there, I would start mclo. Yeah.

730
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: I think I think people in that front office don't

731
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: think Terrell Prior will ever be a viable quarterback. I

732
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: agree with that. And on a personal note, I adjusted

733
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: my screen back screen pass back rankings. Pierre Thomas had

734
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: held the league for half a decade. One of the

735
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: best screen pass back I've ever seen. I think Jamal

736
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: Charles just had the best screen pass game in NFL history.

737
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: I actually saw on the top of the CNN headline

738
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: stack that you had adjusted your screen pass Charles moved

739
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: ahead of Thomas for it was kind of an earth

740
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: shattering move. Thomas wasn't budging for a long time. One

741
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite stats all day, Alex Smith throw five

742
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in this game. Those five passes traveled the

743
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: total of thirteen yards in the air. I think he's

744
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: like only the third quarterback in the last ten years

745
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: to have five touchdowns two hundred yards and no picks

746
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: something like seventeen for twenty. I mean Charles had a

747
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: yards receiving. That's one of the top three. I believe

748
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: it is performances receiving by running back in NFL history.

749
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Drew Brees through interceptions, let the touchdowns on the Saints

750
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: first two possessions, and the Rams got a big big

751
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: days from Zach Stacy, Robert Quinn and on special teams

752
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: in a sixteen victory on Sunday, a surprise sixteen victory

753
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: west the Saints. It's obvious this team is a mediocre

754
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: team on the road, right they're in trouble. They're not

755
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: even mediocre. They've lost four of their last five on

756
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: the road and they have to go to Carolina next week.

757
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: They've been a different offense since Jimmy Graham's planter Fascia.

758
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: He had first five games four yard games. In his

759
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: next nine games, he's been held under sixty yards seven times.

760
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the explosive in this and he's

761
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: their best weapon by far. This this offense, they have

762
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: no running game to speak of. I just think out

763
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: of that those four teams at the top of the NFC,

764
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: the Saints are the Saints have the most blemishes. Who's

765
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: the team Patrick, as a Lions fan that you would

766
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: want to draw in the first round? For it could

767
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: be either the loser of the NFC sou so the

768
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Saints or the Panthers or the forty Niners. Out of

769
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: out of those three teams, who would you like to

770
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: be coming into Detroit to the Motor City. I would

771
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: have to say the Lions from you did It's fine.

772
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: If I had to, I would probably say the Panthers

773
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: because I think we would do well. The lines would

774
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: do well against the run in that game, and uh,

775
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I think I think that we can throw the ball

776
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: against that defense similar to how how the Saints did

777
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: against them. I think we could. The offensive line has

778
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: done well. I I don't think that the line secondary

779
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: would be able to stop Drew Brees. That's the main

780
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: key right there. As Dan Deardoff Warble today, defense travels well.

781
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: My friend Caroline has got a good one that sounds

782
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: like something people just say, yeah, unless it's in, it's

783
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: still inside. I wouldn't want to face Drew Brees. It

784
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: might be the Saints are a good option though, because

785
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: like Chris said, that would have be in the second

786
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: it would not have been. We talked about this six

787
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago, that they're There are things you can't really

788
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: argue about the Saints offense. They don't run the ball

789
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: at all, They don't really protect Drew Brees very well.

790
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Their tackles aren't good, and they don't really have anyone

791
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: that beats you deep. That does not sound like a

792
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: great offense. And yet they're still putting a point in yard,

793
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: certainly at home. But you know they've got issues speaking

794
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: of tackles, not protecting Drew Brees. Charlie Brown got beat

795
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: like a drum by Robert Quinn today by calling him,

796
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown, that you rocky block you stone you. I'm

797
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: thinking to like the meeting the of the offensive lineman

798
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: in the morning, and it's just the peanuts the teachers

799
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: want want just talking to him exactly. What's quote one.

800
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn West had two sacks, giving him an NFC

801
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: leading fifteen for pass rush that took the heat off

802
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: a young secondary. Uh, it's pretty good. Yeah. I think

803
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: he's he has to be. I think he's the favorite

804
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year. It remains to be

805
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: seen how much credit the Seahawks guys get their big names.

806
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: They played for the best team in the in the league.

807
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: So there's really no clear frontrunner for this award. Should

808
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: we give Jeff Fisher credit for out foxing Rob Ryan?

809
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: You know? And we forgot about that pregame story which

810
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: was fun that that Michael Silver reported the RAMS coaches

811
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: were upset with Rob Ryan because if anyone remembers, rob

812
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Ryan was the defensive coordinator of the Rams, as Chris

813
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Long put it on the internet for about twelve hours,

814
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: which is pretty much true. It was just reported he

815
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: went to work at the RAMS facility and then he

816
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: mysteriously left and they saw him running across the street

817
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: to a McDonald at seven thirty in the morning and

818
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: getting into a mysterious car. Who knows what was going on?

819
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Speaking car who sent the car? Some high level Patriots

820
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: games speaking mysterious. He got a big Mac, according to Silver.

821
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: But that's what makes it great, because can't just picture

822
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Rob Ryan walking into McDonald's and demanding a big mac

823
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: and getting it because er gets his way. Rob Ryan

824
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: walks into a big Mac, he says he wants one.

825
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean walks into McDonald says he wants a big back.

826
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: I mean they're making it. It's in the back. It's

827
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: not like they're not. He gets what he wants, I guess,

828
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: except victories over the ramp. He didn't want it enough.

829
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: He didn't want to like he wanted that Big Mac

830
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: j Feeley kicked a forty one yard field goal and overtime,

831
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals edged the Tennessee Titans thirty seven,

832
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: thirty four and overtime after blowing a seventeen point lead

833
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter. I had a hero pick

834
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: on the Titans, and I was feeling great. We had

835
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: some genuine fits Magic at play, but it all kind

836
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: of flamed out because fits Magic turned into what he

837
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: really is. He threw an interception and the kind of

838
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: cost him and overtime. Uh, that is the Cardinals are

839
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: at nine. The Cardinals are now not The Cardinals are

840
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: now nine and five. They've won six out of seven games.

841
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: We gotta give some respect to the Cardinals. Greg, Can

842
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: you get out of your chair? Can you do something?

843
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: Get the Cardinals respect. I want to get out of

844
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: my chair, but like this is this is such a

845
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals moment, really because they go nine and five, it

846
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: doesn't really make a difference. They have the craziest ending

847
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: of a game you'll ever want to see. No one

848
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: paid attention because it happened at the exact same time

849
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys Packers. The Titans were down seventeen points

850
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: with three and a half minutes to go and this

851
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: went to overtime. They got a touchdown, an onside kick,

852
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: a field goal, and on side kick and another touchdown.

853
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Now that wasn't the Cardinals doing anything well, but it's

854
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: just like one of the craziest games you'll ever see.

855
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer through the ball really well. I feel bad

856
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: that this team isn't in the a f C because

857
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: to me, they look like a playoff team. They look

858
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: better than most six seeds are, but they're not going

859
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They gave up thirty four points

860
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: and something heavy passing yrds to Fitzpatrick. I think a

861
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't want to believe how good Tyrand

862
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: Matthew was playing. This was a big indicator. They missed

863
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: him and Larry Fitzgerald suffered at and cushion. Reportedly at

864
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: the end of this game. They have to go to

865
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Seattle next week to keep any hopes alive. And even

866
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: if they won that game, they'll probably be knocked out

867
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: next week. If San Francisco handles their business so Arizona,

868
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. That takes us to the Sunday night game.

869
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: I call this a classic, um, how can I take

870
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: you seriously? Performance for the Bengals, who with everything in

871
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: front of them, with the Patriots losing the chance to

872
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: move into the second seed potentially, they lay an egg

873
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: there down twenty one nothing at the end of the

874
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: first quarter. They don't even look competitive. Their punter gets

875
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: his jaw broken, which is a metaphor for the whole performance.

876
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: The way things are going out there. I'll throw it

877
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: out to Kevin Patrick. You tell me, how do you

878
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: take this team seriously? After this Sunday night performance? His

879
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: silence speaks volumes. He doesn't take him. Yeah, it's difficult.

880
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: They had a chance to to take over the number

881
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: two seed, as we said, because with the Patriots losing

882
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: and they at the bank. But we definitely can't tell

883
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: you that we're gonna need a beat. But that's okay,

884
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they That's almost every a f

885
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: C power. I guess whatever the higher seeds did that

886
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: today everyone with a chance to move up didn't move up.

887
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: The Steelers came in. Antonio Brown, I think is one

888
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: of the not getting the hype that he deserves for

889
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: his play this season. He played phenomenally in the returns,

890
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: in the passing game, and I think he hasn't hadn't

891
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: seen it as much. It doesn't surprise me that the

892
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: Steelers are are finishing strong. They have ben Ben Roethlisberger

893
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: who is playing at an m v P level greg

894
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: over the last two months now, and you know, they

895
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: have a good coach. And I'm not surprised that they

896
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: played well tonight. I am a little surprised that the

897
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: Bengals were so flat West and this was supposed to

898
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: be Andy Dalton's good month, and you know him, along

899
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: with the rest of his team, just came out of

900
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: the gates very slow on prime time in a big stage.

901
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: It just doesn't give you a good feeling about what

902
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: will happen in January. Bengos have been coming out flat

903
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh for three decades now. That's their rule in life,

904
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: to be the little brother to the Steelers. There three

905
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: and five away from home this year, so their road

906
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: schedule is done and now they need to hope for

907
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: a Patriots lost the next two weeks or they will

908
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: be heading on the road in the divisional round if

909
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: they should get past that first round. Is there any

910
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: a f C team that you do take to your

911
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: seriously beside the Broncos? I take, yes, I take the

912
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Patriots seriously. I take what do you mean? Take them seriously?

913
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm not into the taken seriously. I'm not into controlling

914
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: your destiny. Destiny it's already decided. I'm not into anything whatever.

915
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals have played better than the Patriots.

916
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Would the Patriots winning the game against Denver and Cincinnati

917
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: be all that surprising? No, I don't think so. They

918
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: also lost Nate Soldier by the way today and even

919
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: mentioned that lost too. They've had problems. This Bengals performance, though,

920
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't surprise anyone, does it, based

921
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: on how they've played. Uncle Al Michaels said it best.

922
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Watching this game, it was like nothing had ever changed.

923
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: You could have put this in a vacuum and taken

924
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: it back several years. The Steelers are bullying the little Brothers.

925
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: I just kind of like it's kind of a depressing performance.

926
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: If you're a Bengals fan, I know, Uh, Michael Berger

927
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: downstairs walked out? He just left? Did he walk out?

928
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised because this is a type of performance,

929
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, Bengals. It's interesting we're talking about the two

930
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: seed with the Bengals, but we can't say that the

931
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: a f C North is just done yet. If the

932
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Ravens win their last three games, they are the a

933
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: f C North champions. Regardless of what the Bengals do.

934
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter they play the Bengals, they can get

935
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker. It's not gonna be easy. Baltimore is a

936
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: tough road, but this division isn't quite over yet. Your

937
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Lions can help end k Ridge behind the Glass On Friday,

938
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: I attempted to plug the Stitcher Awards, which is something

939
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: that exists that we want to win. Uh, and I

940
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't do a very good job at it because we

941
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: didn't really know what to say. Now you're back, and

942
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: I would like you, if possible, k Rich, to explain

943
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: what our listeners can do to help the Around the

944
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: League podcast. All right, to all of our great listeners,

945
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: amazing listeners, love you guys. We're just trying to butter

946
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: you up so you will vote for us. We want

947
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: for you to go on to Stitcher and vote for

948
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: us as the best New podcast and or but mostly

949
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: end the best sports podcast. We're trying to go for

950
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: world domination here. So all you have to do is

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Speaker 1: go to Stitcher s T I, T C, H, E

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Speaker 1: R dot P R, O, M O tw dot com

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Speaker 1: and there you will be able to nominate us at

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00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: NFL colon Around the League Podcast. Feel free to nominate

955
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: us for as many categories as you like, but we're

956
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: going for best New and best Sports So had political commentary. Yeah,

957
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: we're going for the Titanic sweep as we've talked about Friday, thankkay,

958
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: Which that's how you do it. That's how you get

959
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: the information to the people. You're a broadcaster. It's in

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00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: your bones. There you go, So vote, please nominate. Al Right, guys,

961
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: that's it for Sunday's podcast. Patrick, you are heading back

962
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to the middle of America? Is that correct? Coldness? Well, man,

963
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be very cold. But he's got the

964
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: beard next, so everything's gonna be okay. As long as

965
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: you have a beard and you turn your you know,

966
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: you need a beard and a beer exactly and uh,

967
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: Sessler is driving through a desert or something. Hopefully he'll

968
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: be back unless Patrick did something terrible. Okay, that's good.

969
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Uh and yes, we'll all be back on Wednesday. Until then,

970
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: this is Dan Hansis signing off for the Mailman, the Boss,

971
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick's nickname. We're gonna have to keep working on this.

972
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: Next time you're in, have one ready, cabrick behind the glass.

973
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: I think the gold standards back there somewhere until Wednesday