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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Hi. It's Trista at the Almost Famous OG's podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited about today. She's one of the favorite bachelorettes

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Speaker 1: of all time and also one of mine. She's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's a former assistant district attorney, a two time New

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Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and she's now a proud

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Speaker 1: wife and mom to a beautiful baby girl. We met

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Speaker 1: her on jan Poplos season of The Bachelor, and then

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Speaker 1: she became our bachelorette. It's Andy Dorfman Hart and I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited to welcome her to the podcast. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean seriously, it really has been way too long. I

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Speaker 1: think the last time we saw each other in person

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Speaker 1: was the reunion.

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Speaker 3: Which they need more of.

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Speaker 1: I totally totally agree, Like I have been pushing for

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Speaker 1: that for so long, to have like a just a

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Speaker 1: giant reunion of everyone.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I totally agree. It was so much fun.

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Speaker 3: Because I haven't met like half the newer girls.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right, and you know they're all on our

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Speaker 1: on our Betty group chat, but you know, like not

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Speaker 1: everyone responds to.

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Speaker 3: Messages, you know, you see, it's also just like so

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Speaker 3: funny because like I've never met half these people, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like texting like wishing him the best of luck,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm actually genuine about it, but it

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Speaker 3: sounds so creepy because I've never met them. Totally, that's

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Speaker 3: so true.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and children are growing up. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: into all things Harper. But but first I want to

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Speaker 1: go back to and just you know, life in general.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to The Bachelor, so where

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Speaker 1: it all began, because of course this is the OG

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Speaker 1: podcast and we like to, you know, go back to

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Speaker 1: all the memories. So with the Bachelor, how did you

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Speaker 1: go on the show? Were you nominated? Did you nominate yourself?

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Speaker 1: How did all of that go down?

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Speaker 3: I was actually working. I was a DA at the time,

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Speaker 3: so I was working as a prosecutor for the government

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Speaker 3: and like obviously on government salary. And my girlfriend's like

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Speaker 3: there's a free like casting call with free wine and beer,

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Speaker 3: like you should go, and I was like, free drinks.

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Speaker 1: I'm in.

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Speaker 3: I literally went for the free drinks Trista, I'm not

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Speaker 3: even kidding. And it was like at this great bar

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Speaker 3: where I lived. So I was in like a skirt

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Speaker 3: suit and I pulled up and everybody was in like

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Speaker 3: bandage dresses, like super cute high heels, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, I was in a suit.

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Speaker 1: Literally, that is why you got cast, because you know,

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Speaker 1: they look for professional people.

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Speaker 3: I know. I wouldn't have comment like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, I don't.

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Speaker 3: And the best part about is I didn't even get

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Speaker 3: free drinks because as soon as I got there, this

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Speaker 3: talking and then she like gave me a packet sent

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Speaker 3: it all is like I literally didn't get the free drinks.

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Speaker 3: Damn it all.

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Speaker 2: Well you got some later.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot more later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the show was definitely not one to keep away

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you got some later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true like they wanted people to be drinking

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Speaker 1: a lot and then that all stopped. Okay, so when

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Speaker 1: you met Juan Pablo, what were your first thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be him because they

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Speaker 3: had already told us, and I hadn't like watched any

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Speaker 3: of the seasons really, but obviously back then I feel

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Speaker 3: like it was everywhere, so you knew what was going on.

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Speaker 3: And I just remember I was like, he's hot. He's

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Speaker 3: an athlete, he was very good looking. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: anything about him, but I was like, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I'm young, this is a trip. He's hot, Like why not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally right that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really good luck game, Yeah yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: and the whole alf. I mean, I know you've got

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when you know the show is going, we

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Speaker 1: all know the history, but when did you know that

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Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, it's kind of weird to think

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Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, I'm done. It's not

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Speaker 3: I had kind of you know, explorted, and then I

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Speaker 3: little things that kept me going, which is weird in hindsight.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, do.

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Speaker 1: You feel like you would have done the whole Oh

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Speaker 1: need one more thing in real life?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, because because it's a television show,

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Speaker 2: Is that how you felt?

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Speaker 3: And also you're just like in this blur like back then,

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Speaker 3: Like we were traveling to crazy cool places. You were

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Speaker 3: just in like vacation mode, and no one wants to

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Speaker 2: No, well, of course not.

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Speaker 1: And did you have your job on hold, like where

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I told them, may be back in like two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna go do this. I thought

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Speaker 2: Stoopsies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they had been falling along on like the

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Speaker 2: So they like reality Steve, Yes, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's so big. It's huge when we were doing it.

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Speaker 2: He is still he's still out there.

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him forever, but I know that

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Speaker 1: he I think he has a podcast now, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who his contact was.

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Speaker 1: Or is, but that's crazy that he's he got scoop.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he always got scoop or everyone knew.

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Speaker 3: My mom knew I was the whole time based on him.

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Speaker 2: That's hysterical.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I guess I let everything go

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Speaker 1: to the waist diet on your season. Okay, so how

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Speaker 1: soon after the Bachelor did they contact you to be

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Speaker 3: I don't remember. I remember I went back to work

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, aired, So it was definitely airing, and

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Speaker 3: it probably I take that back. They told me at

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Speaker 3: Women Tell.

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Speaker 3: No, not on stage, but they had asked me at

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Speaker 3: Women Tell, and I think I had signed the contract,

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Speaker 2: Well I think all of us feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like until you get there, or at

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Speaker 1: least you should, because I feel like, after being in

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Speaker 1: interesting about the contract. So being a lawyer, you signed

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Speaker 3: It was definitely like, you know, they did my hair

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Speaker 3: There were little things that I was like, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: Totally. Yes, for sure.

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Speaker 1: You can tell when you're in that position. Were you

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like it could happen that you would

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Speaker 3: For sure. I mean I think I was just like

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm going to do this. I thought,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is going to be the way

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Speaker 3: I find it of all people, you know, like a

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Speaker 3: prosecutor is going to find love on reality TV. I like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, That's how I felt.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you felt this way, but

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Speaker 1: I felt like the producers knew me at this point

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Speaker 3: Also, I felt like everyone was kind of on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So can you can you believe that we're actually

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Speaker 3: Not really? I remember we when I went on The Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, the mommy brain has been blocking it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to watch before Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy? I mean I always say to try and

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Speaker 3: And also trying not to worry about what other people think,

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Speaker 2: True story.

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Speaker 1: How do you deal with those kind of people these days?

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Speaker 1: I just posted about Blakesley and Max going to homecoming,

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Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for the honesty, because I agree.

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Speaker 2: the block button. I like, Hi, I'm just like bye

442
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: bye see yeah, peace out.

443
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: I love a delete comment to delete and they're like, oh,

444
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 3: you're deleting comments. Yeah, it's my wall. Of course, I'm

445
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: deleting comments. What do you mean I should leave it

446
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: up there to go back and reread the negative comment?

447
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,239
Speaker 3: Iverythink I should use that up.

448
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is my page. So I'm going

449
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: to handle my page how I want to handle my page.

450
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: So if you have a problem, bye bye, see you later.

451
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, delete and bok I love them.

452
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah same.

453
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: Okay, So Nick Vile was your runner up. Have you

454
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: followed his post show success, his pod or anything.

455
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean like obviously killing it with the podcast.

456
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 3: I've run into him a little bit in LA, like

457
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: with his wife. But yeah, I mean I follow from

458
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: like Afar.

459
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you guys don't stay in ta.

460
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah it's awesome.

461
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: Actually, wait, he's hosting a new Netflix dating show. What

462
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: have you heard about this?

463
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: No?

464
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 2: I haven't either, Okay, I don't know.

465
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: A new depth Netflix dating show coming out next year.

466
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Whole boy. That's that's exciting.

467
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: I know, right, I feel like I love to cheer

468
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: for the people from the show because we are this

469
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: like crazy dysfunctional family and you know, even if we

470
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: don't like agree on things or whatever.

471
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: Also the hard work, like respect, the hard work. You know,

472
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 3: he hasn't gotten there without.

473
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: Them, totally.

474
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: You are so right, but like respect the hard work.

475
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: Period. Agreed.

476
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: Okay, it's called Age of Attraction and it's with his

477
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: wife Natalie. Set to a premiere in twenty twenty six.

478
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: Okay to my producer Jackie. Yeah, that's I mean, there's

479
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: so many dating shows out now, it like Caitlin and Colton, and.

480
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: Then of course like all the Love Is Blinds and

481
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm watching that right now. Actually, are you Blakesley's obsessed?

482
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: She was obsessed.

483
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that either, but yeah, maybe I need

484
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: to add it to my list.

485
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

486
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 2: They are doing a Denver version.

487
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 3: I think that's now.

488
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Actually it is is it Love is Blind or Love Island?

489
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: Which which is the Love is Blind?

490
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: Would be Denver. Love Island is like always in Fiji.

491
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: That's a great show too. That's a mess.

492
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

493
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: It's so funny though. That's the one shoe, harperd can't

494
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: go on that's the one.

495
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Ah, So you're saying that you would allow her to

496
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: go on Bachelorette.

497
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: Pretty much anything but Love Island. I mean I love

498
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: Love Island, but like there's not a lot of clothing

499
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 3: more in there at all, Like you don't you go

500
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: into it, you know you don't, Like, yeah, it's not

501
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: the same.

502
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a hard time with homecoming dresses.

503
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, not that cool. No, this is like string

504
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: bikinis and like they make out with everybody, Like, yeah,

505
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: very free, good for them, no judgment. But I could

506
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: not handle it. I can't.

507
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a mom, that would be hard to watch. Yeah, yeah,

508
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: we're not there yet. Okay, So you fell in love

509
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: on the show and then you settled back into reality

510
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: with Josh Murray and ended your engagement. I'm sure you haven't,

511
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: but I have to ask have you talked to him?

512
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm pretty much like once it's done, it's done,

513
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: especially like a dumpster fire, like I'm good, leave it

514
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: to Birn you know, but also like yeah, for the

515
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: most part, when I'm done, I'm done. Just in general.

516
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you were looking for more out of life,

517
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: like you wanted to find your man, and thank god

518
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: if you if you had like not been done, then

519
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't have found him because would have been

520
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: still caught up in the whole Josh thing.

521
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, so long ago, and like when people bring

522
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: it up, I'm like, gosh, I almost like not forget.

523
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: But I've had so much like more you know, personal,

524
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: longer intense relationships since then that like most people don't

525
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: know about because I always kind of kept it private.

526
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: But I've had such more like significant relationships since then

527
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: that I kind of like forget, Like, oh yeah, I

528
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: was engaged, Like it doesn't feel that way. It feels

529
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: just like so long ago, like that I was basically

530
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: dating in high school. Like that's how it feels like.

531
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: It feels like a high school boyfriend.

532
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like another lifetime.

533
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah completely, yeah, I know, I totally totally understand that.

534
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were accurately portrayed on the show?

535
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always felt back then that, like

536
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: I just didn't think they portrayed everyone as well rounded

537
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: as we were because by the way the elite, especially

538
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: as a female, like we were certain types of people

539
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: like that was not easy to carry a show like that,

540
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: and I know there was product, but like every single

541
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: one of us had a lot going on for ourselves

542
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: and was able to carry ourselves and carry twenty five

543
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: minute a time, quite frankly, and so I just kind

544
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: of always felt like they never like showed the full

545
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: picture of us, especially as the women leads.

546
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, that's so interesting.

547
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: You're right, well what they showed, I said, and did

548
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: you know that part? I was never bothered by that

549
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I just always felt like they were

550
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: kind of missing a lot or like they could have,

551
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 3: you know, shah more about us.

552
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

553
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that people don't understand is

554
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: so much ends up on the cutting room floor and

555
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: it's all about the storyline that they want to portray

556
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: that you know, whatever ends up on the show is

557
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: has to be in the show for the storyline to

558
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: play out. You know. Yeah, that's that's interesting. Okay, So

559
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: flash forward to we started the group chat and I

560
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: don't remember when we even started it was it like,

561
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: was it before COVID because we did that whole video.

562
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll do that.

563
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: I know we need to do another one, although it

564
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: would take like twenty minutes to watch it.

565
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: We did do that during COVID. Oh my gosh, I

566
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: think that's my first real ever. By the way, I.

567
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Think it might have been mine too. I think you're right.

568
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: That's so cute.

569
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: I want to go back to my Instagram and see.

570
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, so we're in this group chat.

571
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously there's you know, at least one person

572
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: who has left, and we haven't added Taylor Frankie Paul

573
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: to it yet, but she.

574
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Will be joining. We just have to have someone get

575
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: her number.

576
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: So what if we sent a text literally right now

577
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: to the chat, what would your bet be like? We'll

578
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: say it when I count down one, two, three, Who

579
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: would be the first person to respond?

580
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you have you already have an idea?

581
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, because it's obvious, but you'll come up

582
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: with it and just in thinking about it for a second,

583
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: because she's always super supportive, and.

584
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll you'll just think, okay, do do do do

585
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: do I'm about to.

586
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: Love Okay, Well then I'll I'll just tell you I

587
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: would bet that Deanna would write back.

588
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Dianna is one I feel like

589
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Caaitlyn writes back a lot.

590
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dianna is just so supportive and sweet, and I

591
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, she's kind of like me. I

592
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: try to respond quickly to text because if I don't,

593
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: then I forget. Yeah, So that's why I'm so on

594
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: top of text messages or try to be you know.

595
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I don't, then I'm gonna I'm just

596
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: gonna forget.

597
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: I want to look back in it.

598
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, let's see what the last. So I was

599
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: talking and my producer about that. She's like, do you

600
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: guys still have the chat? And I said, for sure,

601
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: we do, but it's mostly just like congratulations.

602
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So last is Jojo pregnant?

603
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

604
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

605
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: So I was like, it's all about like marriages and

606
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: babies and and then unfortunate you know, like when Katie

607
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Thurston was diagnosed, and like, you know that kind of

608
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: stuff like reaching out to just like send our love.

609
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it's just kind of like

610
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: lifting each other up and cheering for each other when

611
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: we have good stuff going on.

612
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, Milestone, Yeah, I love to do.

613
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: It also kind of keeps me connected because I feel

614
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: like we all have such different lines and live in

615
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: different places, and the further out from the show, the

616
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: less involved I tend to be. So it's nice to

617
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: still like have that part for me.

618
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I please. I'm fifty three in a couple

619
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: of weeks, so I am definitely not.

620
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: In the same like life space as most of it

621
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: most of the people. Yeah, okay, so you find Blaine,

622
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: you get married, You're talking about babies and wait, did

623
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: you you decided to freeze your eggs? Was this before

624
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: you met Blaine or way before?

625
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: Actually, Caitlin Bursco and I did it together because we

626
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: did it with Whitney fish Off in Chicago. So I

627
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: was twenty nine, okay, and I did it and I

628
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: was very single at the time, so.

629
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I had a good idea.

630
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it twenty nine and completely single, like

631
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: no attachments to anything with anyone.

632
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: So why did you make that decision? I don't know.

633
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: I think like Whitney and I had talked about it

634
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: and she was like, honestly, it's the best thing I

635
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: ever did. And I feel like I was just at

636
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: a time in my life where I'm like, I don't

637
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen. I don't know, Like I

638
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: was living in New York, which you know is not

639
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: super conducive to like getting married younger, and I just

640
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: did it. I was like, I'm just gonna do this

641
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: for me.

642
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I think it's so just the

643
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: fact that there's technology out there that that you can

644
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: freeze your eggs is so amazing.

645
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: I didn't really like, I really didn't overthink it much.

646
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: I just was like, yep, I'm going to do it.

647
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: And then, you know, eight weeks later, basically I had

648
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: done it and it was done, and I don't really

649
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: think about it anymore, you know, until I need to.

650
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: But I think subconsciously it definitely stuck with me for

651
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: a while. I think that's why I waited so long,

652
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: you know, to a find someone but also beat up kids.

653
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean? You feel

654
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: like it.

655
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: The pressure was off of me a lot because I

656
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: had those eggs, and I feel like I didn't think

657
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: about it all the time, But subconsciously, I do feel

658
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: like that pressure had been relieved and so I wasn't

659
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: out there necessarily dating just to like have kids or no.

660
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Felt that like clock. I never felt the biological clock ever.

661
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's so interesting because I feel like that

662
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: happens with you. Hear all the time about people who

663
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: have problems getting pregnant and then they adopt, and then

664
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: they get pregnant naturally because you know, the stress isn't

665
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: there anymore, and stress just works, you know, bad vibes

666
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: on your system.

667
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: And even still, like I had Harper at thirty seven

668
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: years old, you know, like, but I still didn't feel

669
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: that pressure and I still don't now because I'm like, okay,

670
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: well you know, I have these eggs like to use.

671
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: At some point in.

672
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Fact, did you and you had Harper naturally? Did you? Guys?

673
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Were you planning on were you working towards having a baby,

674
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: like you were actively trying? Yeah, we were, Okay, okay,

675
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: you were and it happened naturally. Was it like a

676
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: long process for you?

677
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: I mean it.

678
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: Was about I feel like we started trying like maybe

679
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: let's say September and happened April, So it wasn't super long,

680
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like you know, honeymoon.

681
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, gosh, it took me two years.

682
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not it's work.

683
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: It really is. It's a whole roller coast of emotions.

684
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: It's like it's its own podcast, Like, the emotions of

685
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: trying to conceive is crazy.

686
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: What kind of advice would you give to people out

687
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: there listening who who are thinking about freezing their eggs?

688
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd say just do it, don't overthink it. It

689
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: was literally like, you know, four to eight weeks of

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: your life. And I will say, as long as cost

691
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: isn't associated with it, which that is a huge burden

692
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: with the cost. So I understand like if you need

693
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: to think about it from that perspective, but if cost

694
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: isn't an issue, it's a no brainer.

695
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Okay, love that.

696
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: And Whitney actually I think she was still doing it. Yeah,

697
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I think she just left.

698
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's in Chicago recently.

699
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: You did, I was in Mexico with her.

700
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, tell me the facts of like,

701
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not there yet, but I would love

702
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: to just know like what this looks like at some

703
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: point because I am getting older. So yeah, I just

704
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: I've talked to her recently about it. It's cool.

705
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: So you're okay, so are you considering using one of

706
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: those eggs?

707
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: Are you guys talking about it?

708
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: We're I think we're just now going to start like

709
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: trying a little we needed to get through a little

710
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: bit with Harper, But now it's kind of a good time.

711
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: So we'll see, like how long it takes, you know,

712
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. We'll see if it's starting

713
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: to take a long time. Like again, I have that

714
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: there so.

715
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and you still have eggs yeah on ice?

716
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's on ice. That's so funny to say.

717
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: So how long does the process take if you like

718
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: happen to take one of your eggs off off ice?

719
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: How long does that process take? Do they just implant?

720
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: Like?

721
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: How what is that process?

722
00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Like?

723
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean they well, minds and eggs are not an embryos,

724
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: it's not fertilized, so they thought they inseminate it. Then

725
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: they would do like genetic testing for it, and then

726
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 3: I think they put it in you, you know, based

727
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: on an ovulation schedule. I don't know completely, but that's

728
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: the gist of it.

729
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, I mean that's so cool.

730
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: I love that you have. Science is so cool speaking science.

731
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I was just thinking was something that I wanted to

732
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: do in my career. Do you ever think about law, Like,

733
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: have you ever thought that you miss law and that

734
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: you would go back to it.

735
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually I'm doing guardian at item right now,

736
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: so like I am, it's called guardian itt Item. So

737
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: it's like part of KASA, like Court Appointed Special Advocates,

738
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: So I represent like kids in foster care that are

739
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: going through court proceedings for like placements. So there is

740
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: a little legality to that. But I will say, like,

741
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: you sit in court for a very long time, and

742
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: that definitely makes me not missed being a lawyer. You're like,

743
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: all right, it's a lot of hours, it's a lot

744
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: of time. So this has been a nice way for

745
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: me to kind of dip my feedback into it without

746
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: fully like being a lawyer because I've got a lot

747
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: of other things i want to do.

748
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and parenting is hard.

749
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't know.

750
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, no, unless you did like consulting work

751
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: or something. But do you have to go back to

752
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: get your your license or whatever.

753
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it depends on your state. So I'm licensed

754
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: in Georgia. Like, I keep it in active status so

755
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: I'll always have that. I pay, like, you know, my

756
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: hundred dollars a year because I don't care. I'm always

757
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: going to keep that. I earned it. But like I

758
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: have to would have to take the bar in South

759
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: Carolina to go into court and practice. There's little loopholes

760
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: like general counsel, which is kind of boring blah blah blah,

761
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: but for the most part, Yeah, I would have to

762
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: retake the bar.

763
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Yeah, that's for physical therapy for me.

764
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: I just mine.

765
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm good.

766
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: I didn't pay mine.

767
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm done. I don't think I'm

768
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: going back, and I don't remember anything that I learned

769
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: to anyway.

770
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: So there's that. Okay.

771
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: So something you've opened up a lot about is pregnancy

772
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: and how much there's there's so much information about pregnancy,

773
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: but not really about postpartum.

774
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: How was your postpartum experience?

775
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean dark, really, Plaine and I laugh now because

776
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: like the first four or five months of postpartum are

777
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: like it's just dark. You're just like in a hole,

778
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: you know, physically, mentally, emotionally, all of it. And yeah,

779
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, it's hard to explain.

780
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: It's hard.

781
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're right, like they they need

782
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: to focus on that because.

783
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Women need support in that.

784
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy also from a science perspective to

785
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: think about like you created a human being and not

786
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: like yeah just because of the man, like your hormones

787
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: created a human being. And so for all of that

788
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: to just like release from your body, like that's not

789
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: a normal process, you know, like the build up of that,

790
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, just like you know, just like, oh my

791
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: babies out, I'm back to normal. It's not how it right.

792
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes Instagram will fool you into thinking that is how

793
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: it works.

794
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Oh completely.

795
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have really postpartum depression to speak of.

796
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: I was pretty lucky in that, but it is really

797
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: hard to like, you know, you you you mourn your

798
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: your body and you do have all this huge hormone fluctuation.

799
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, please, when you get to menopause, we'll talk again,

800
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: because oh my gosh, the menopause hormones are no.

801
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Joke, right, and something's going on inside, Like it makes

802
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: sense in a certain way. I think for me, I

803
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: also wasn't like depressed, but I had a tough time

804
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: physically because I was so fit and I've always been

805
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: very fit, and I kind of stayed exercising. I mean

806
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: I played tennis like the da Harper was born. Like

807
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: the day I went to the hospital and I didn't

808
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: bounce back like I thought I would, and like I

809
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: see online a lot, obviously I'm older, but still like, yeah,

810
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: my body just didn't bounce back the way I thought

811
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: it would. So physically it was tough for me. But

812
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: I had a good friend that was like, listen, everyone

813
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: goes through postpartum in some capacity, whether it's physically, whether

814
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: it's mentally, whether it's you know, their child, emotionally, whatever,

815
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: it's like. You don't always see it, but everyone experiences

816
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: some version of postpartum, so mine was definitely like physical.

817
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, that makes total sense. You were

818
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: so fit, but you are?

819
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: You look amazing.

820
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean I've been you know, it's been. It's been work,

821
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: more work than I thought it was going to be.

822
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you gained how much weight with it?

823
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: I gained like fifty pounds, but I lost like fifteen

824
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: out of the hospital, you know, like a lot of

825
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: water weight. And then I just like sat at like

826
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: in the one sixties for months. No matter what I did,

827
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 3: I just like was not moving.

828
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Do you think it was hormonal?

829
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, a little bit. I had like my

830
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: lippid panels and everything, you know, tested I think it's

831
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: a little I also just think your body just does

832
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: what it does sometimes, like we all try to analyze it,

833
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: and it's like whether it's metabolism, whether it's water weight,

834
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: like I don't know. My body just was doing what it

835
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: was doing.

836
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: So you feel like you're back on track, You're good.

837
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, getting there, you know, probably get to my

838
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: goal weight and get pregnant again. But that's crazy how

839
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: it works.

840
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Like just wait, I mean right, I actually are you nursing?

841
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: No, I didn't nurse at all?

842
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Okay, no, because I once I stopped nursing, like I

843
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: feel like probably that day I got pregnant really with

844
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Blake's Lake. Yeah, it happened like clockwork, like the.

845
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Second that I stopped.

846
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: So but but obviously if you're not nursing, if you

847
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: haven't been nursing, then it wouldn't change anything. Nursing wasn't

848
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: for me, No, and it's not for everybody, and you don't.

849
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: You do not need to even preface that, you know

850
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it is, it is what it is.

851
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: Some people love it. I loved it. Some people it

852
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: doesn't work for them, and that's okay.

853
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: Thank god. We have like options that you can use

854
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I was.

855
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 3: Actually seeing it. I was surprised that I didn't get

856
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: more heat from that because I was pretty open from

857
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: the start about not nursing.

858
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

859
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: No one said, okay, good, I'm glad they didn't because

860
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Writ it's a personal decision. Yeah, yeah, it's true,

861
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: because you're right the whole all of the moms have

862
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: are very opinionated about how to be the right kind

863
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: of mom.

864
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, yeah. Surprising though, no one everyone's like, good

865
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: for you. I was like, very cool. I was a

866
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: little nervous about that.

867
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, you do you, you do you?

868
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about Harper. How is she?

869
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: She is so a door?

870
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Well, your videos, your stories every time when you're showing

871
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: her in her crib. The one thing I crack out

872
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: crack up about is all of her binkies all over it.

873
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: Yes, I taught us not because she would like wake

874
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: up in them all the night and like not be

875
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: able to find her pacifier. And I'd be like we

876
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 3: Blaine and I would really sit and look at the monitor.

877
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: We're like, girl, it's right above your head, like the

878
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: right to the right about it, Like one o'clock. You

879
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: can do this, And so I saw something put like

880
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: two in one time. We're like, wait, we should just

881
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: put three. And now like we just throw a handful

882
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: of binkies in there, like she finds them eventually, Like

883
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: it's so funny.

884
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: I love it, And you know what, those binkies are

885
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: the best. That's what my kids used from the hospital.

886
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I feel like they gave them to us at the hospital,

887
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: and then I just kept buying them.

888
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I just bought from the hospital, Like I bought

889
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: all these like fancy swaddles and all these like things.

890
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: I end up using everything that the hospital had, all

891
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: those I re ordered those swattles, all the pacifiers, the bottles,

892
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: Like it's so funny.

893
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: That is so funny.

894
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the fact that you could

895
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: probably reorder those like white towels with like the blue

896
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: and the pink stripe.

897
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: You know, I still have them. That is hysterical because

898
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I still use them. I love them. I mean obviously

899
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: not for swaddling.

900
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: You would have a field day going on Amazon with

901
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: the baby stuff because everything you probably had that was

902
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: like the highest rated is still the Grey Go, the

903
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Skip Pop, all that stuff, the og stuff is still

904
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: number one.

905
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: I love it, yeah, because I do feel like I

906
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: have a little bit of fomo, like mommy fomo because

907
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: I swear all of the gear and all of the

908
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: clothes and I'm like, oh my gosh, I wish that

909
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: had been around when I.

910
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: Was a mom. Is just so cute now.

911
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: But yes, it flashes me back seeing her passes in

912
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: her crib, like I'm like.

913
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that makes me think of my babies. Okay, so

914
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: tell me about her personality. Let me see it.

915
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: She is gonna be child, but she's tough, like she's

916
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: super tough. We were like at the park the other

917
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: day and someone like threw a ball in her face

918
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my, and she just laughed hysterically.

919
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: She just laughs. She hit her head the other day

920
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: on the door, just laughs when I were like, she's yeah,

921
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: but she's great. She's so smiling. I don't have anything

922
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: to base it off of, obviously, but like she's so happy.

923
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: She smiles at everyone, like in the grocery store. She

924
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: is a screamer though she's very She's a high pitch

925
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: like I've never heard, and she can definitely use her voice,

926
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: that's for sure. But I think she's gonna be sweet.

927
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Oh, she looks so sweet. She's gonna be so sweet.

928
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: She gave you for Mama. I used to say that

929
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: about Blakesley, that she was an extremist, like she was

930
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: either really happy or really mad or really sad.

931
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: You know how'd that pan out?

932
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Now?

933
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Same?

934
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting.

935
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're going through the teenage years andy,

936
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: so oh yeah, it's real fun.

937
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: Not a good comparison right now.

938
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, yeah, I can tell you about four

939
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: years ago. No, she she's they're both amazing. They're they're

940
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: living their best lives and doing great. But yeah, hormones

941
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: for teenagers. Okay, Halloween is coming up. Are you guys

942
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: doing a family a family costume or are you just

943
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: dressing up Harper?

944
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah we are. Yeah, we're gonna dress her up. I

945
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: mean she's going to be asleep. Honestly, I'm actually not

946
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: going to be here for Halloween because I have a

947
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: girls trip that got fast year. Yeah, and I'm like

948
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: I'm a terrible mom. But also like she's going to

949
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: be a sleep by seven, Like we're going to the

950
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: lights out. I was like, Lane, do I go? He's

951
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: like you go, Yes, you you go. So we have

952
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: like a couple of Halloween parties before, so we're going

953
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: to celebrate a week early. She's never going to know.

954
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: And I'm still trying to side on costumes though, because

955
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: they're all so cute that I'm like, I can't.

956
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Decide, right, so cute, but you don't do a family costume.

957
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: You just are I think we might have to. I

958
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: mean you kind of have to, right, Yeah, I wanted to.

959
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Be a rubber ducky and I do. I did find

960
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: an outfit. So because she's obsessed with rubber duckies in

961
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: the bath, like she wants to sleep with rubber duckies, Like,

962
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: you can't sound safe, and so I think we're going

963
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: to be like three rubber duckies.

964
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: But I can't. I need to see that.

965
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: Send me a picture if you found the costume before

966
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: before you leave on your girls trip. If I make

967
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: you feel any better. I missed Max's eighteenth birthday for

968
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: the birthday trip with Caitlin that I went on. I mean,

969
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: you just have to every so often, you have to

970
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: actually prioritize yourself.

971
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: I agree with that, and you know what, there's a

972
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: lot of things to be in attendance for You're going

973
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: to miss a couple of things exactly.

974
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: I try to be there for everything else, but this

975
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: just happened to fall on that, and I'm like, you

976
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: know what what would be doing anyway? We would be

977
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: blowing out candle, we'd be going out to dinner, you'd

978
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: be opening your presence. I can watch that on FaceTime

979
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: and see all the pictures afterwards. So yeah, he knows

980
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I'd love him. Okay, So books, you haven't come out

981
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: with a book in a while. Are you thinking about

982
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: writing another?

983
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: I feel like I want to. I will say this

984
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: is for a period of time, I was like, I

985
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: don't really have an ending, and now I do have

986
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: an idea of what I want to do. Now I

987
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: just need to find the time to do it. But

988
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: I feel like I really like experienced my thirties in

989
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: a lot of different ways, and I think I kind

990
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: of needed to come to a stopping point at that

991
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: in order to like make a little sense of it.

992
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 3: So now I do feel ready to write a book,

993
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: and now I just have to find time.

994
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's hard to find the time. Gosh,

995
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: it takes a long time. I do.

996
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 3: I just do a ghostwriter for once, but I don't

997
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: want to do the ghost writer because I've already done

998
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: two on my own. But from a time since, so we'll.

999
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: See, yes, yes, yes, well regardless, I'm sure it will

1000
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: be super popular if you decide to write one. I

1001
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: would love to read it. Okay, do you think your

1002
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: time on reality TV is done? Would you be open

1003
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: to doing anything else?

1004
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I never say never, but I feel like,

1005
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 3: you know the inner workings of reality TV, Like it's

1006
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: not easy, it's not there's a lot of bureau there's

1007
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: a lot of like time on the back end of like,

1008
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot a lot goes into it. Yeah, right now,

1009
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't see myself doing a reality show.

1010
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: I would do a competition show though, for sure.

1011
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Like which one.

1012
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: I would love to do, like Traders or Special Forces.

1013
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would be good at Traders, though.

1014
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: I have said the same thing because I would love

1015
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: to do Traders, but and I was recently asked would

1016
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: I be a trader? And I'm like, no, I am

1017
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: a horrible liar. Everyone could tell that I would be

1018
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: a trader, Like I'm not an actress, So I feel

1019
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: like I would just want to be a faithful That

1020
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: show would be so much fun.

1021
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: I know, but it's so gamesmanship that I'm like, do

1022
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: I have the brain capacity for that?

1023
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

1024
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: I can say that Special Forces having been on it

1025
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: last season, like you could, you would definitely crush it.

1026
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, once you set your mind to something,

1027
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, and so much of it is mindset. So

1028
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: I know some people, if you want me to put

1029
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: in a good word, I would.

1030
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: Do I think I would do it. I'm alone to

1031
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: me by the physical aspect of it, But I feel

1032
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: like it'd be a good win as a mom, you know.

1033
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: I feel like as moms used to need a win

1034
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes, like did you just something?

1035
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.

1036
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: When they asked me why, Like what my why was?

1037
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: It was that my kids are leaving soon and I've

1038
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: dedicated my life to them and their lives and our family,

1039
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of find out more

1040
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: about myself. But the win, that's a great way to

1041
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: describe it.

1042
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: I like that because you probably lose yourself. I can

1043
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 3: already imagine, like you lose yourself in motherhood, like it's

1044
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: a natural thing to do, Like it's just a maternal

1045
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: thing that like I sacrifice whatever for Harvard's subconsciously, do

1046
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if that's a male version

1047
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: as well, but I know at least from a female version,

1048
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: even in this short of time, it's like, yeah.

1049
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think for men for some reason, and I

1050
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like biological, but I feel like

1051
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's more for women.

1052
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: We do we.

1053
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: I think we just integrate their lives into ours and

1054
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: it just becomes who we are. At least that's definitely

1055
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: my experience. So thinking about them leaving is heartbreaking to me,

1056
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: but you know, also that's what you do. You prepare

1057
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: them for life and let them fly, so hopefully it

1058
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: will be.

1059
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: A good It's like fun times ahead too as more

1060
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: being like an adult in like college and stuff and

1061
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: like coming home to my parents and I had such

1062
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: a different relationship and in like in a cool way.

1063
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys are so close, so yeah, I love,

1064
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: I love.

1065
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: I love thinking about that. Thank you. That makes me happy.

1066
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: Do you live close to your parents? I do.

1067
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: My parents are in Atlanta, so we're like two and a.

1068
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: Half hours okay, and you're in your can I say this,

1069
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: you're in Greenville. You've said that before. Yeah, So have

1070
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: you gotten together? Have you seen Holly Julia?

1071
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't know her.

1072
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: I've had a few.

1073
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andy, you guys need to get where she on.

1074
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: She was on well, she was on Bachelor Pad. She

1075
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: won Bachelor Pad with Michael. Yes, and gosh, I cannot remember.

1076
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: Which who she was, which bachelor.

1077
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: She was, But I mean she's she's pretty og. She's

1078
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: around your same time.

1079
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're talking about. I know I've

1080
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: had several people say something to me and I'm like,

1081
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: I've never met her.

1082
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you guys, I need to connect to it

1083
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: because I feel like you guys would love each other.

1084
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: And she has two littles. They're a little bit older

1085
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: than Harper, but still she's you know, in the mommy

1086
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: or the early mommy stages. She just is so much

1087
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: fun and just started a mage On company. Like I

1088
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you play Majong, but you should because

1089
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: it's really fun.

1090
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, send me up with her. I've heard I've heard

1091
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: my God several times.

1092
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I love her and I love you, and I

1093
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: feel like you guys would get.

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00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: Along really well. Okay, girl.

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00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: So when are we going to plan a trip with

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00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: all the all the Betties, all the bachelorettes?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: I want to so bad. I feel like I say

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Speaker 1: it all the time.

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 3: Adc to do it, so it's like on their dime.

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean right, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna write Milsy today.

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00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: I don't even know who's in charge anymore because it's

1103
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: been so long and I feel like everyone's come and

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00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: gone and like I can't keep up with who's still there.

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00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I know.

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: I think Milsey is probably one of the only people

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: that I know, which is.

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00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: Why are you No he wasn't.

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't start until later. But you know,

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00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: obviously just through the years, sure connected with him.

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Speaker 2: You need a reunion, Yes, it would be.

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00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: It would be so fun. I had so much fun

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00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: reunited with everybody. Yeah, just put it on air because

1114
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: you know everyone loves us.

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: Just get it fun.

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00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: Everybody you've been like the wedding Jaden Tanner's wedding member,

1117
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: like we didn't know them very well, but it was

1118
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Speaker 3: so fun, the best time, the best time.

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00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: I remember getting our hair and makeup done together and.

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Speaker 3: Yes I miss that stuff.

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00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: I do too, you know, and part of me if

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00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: we did a reunion would be like I would love

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Speaker 1: to just have us, but at the same time, like

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Speaker 1: I want to meet everyone's children and just love on

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Speaker 1: all the babies. Oh and girl, I'm we're looking at

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Speaker 1: colleges in South Carolina.

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00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: So if we do.

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00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: Come, you text me on the side. I want to know.

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: Yes, it's there's a lot, but but yes, if we

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: come out there.

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00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: You'll be getting a phone call.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: So okay, you're close to meet so that's good.

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00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: Which colleges are close to you?

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00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: Well, Clemson, Charleston, Furman, USC.

1135
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: Yes, is Columbia near there?

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00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1137
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Our Oh yes, he's looking at there and Charleston. Ah.

1138
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: Love that gives me a reason to get out there.

1139
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 3: Reunion time.

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Okay, Andy, love you so much and

1141
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: I know that everyone listening is going to love hearing

1142
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: from you and how happy life is.

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00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: I just wish you all the best.

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: Thank you, you're the best.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming, Thanks for having me.