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Speaker 1: Here we are with another edition of the Dave Pash

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Speaker 1: Podcast with me, Dave Pash, ESPN play by play announcer

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Speaker 1: and voice of the Arizona Cardinals. We are presented by

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Speaker 1: some of the best moments from previous guests at pash Pod.

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Speaker 1: You know, I often get asked who are your favorite

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Speaker 1: all time Cardinals that you've covered, and my answer usually

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Speaker 1: starts with the players you would expect, like Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, and Quan Bolden and Adrian Wilson. But I

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Speaker 1: have a couple other players that I often bring up,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily because of what they did on the field,

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Speaker 1: but because of the type of people they are. One

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Speaker 1: of those is the late Quami Lasseter. My first year

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Speaker 1: as the Cardinals announcer was two thousand and two and

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Speaker 1: I hosted The Big Red Rage and Quami was my

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Speaker 1: co host and was back when the Cardinals weren't a

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Speaker 1: great team nowadays, especially during the playoff run in two

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Speaker 1: fifteen in the Super Bowl run in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage would be live and fans would be

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Speaker 1: lining up to see the announcers and get autographs from

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Speaker 1: their favorite player. But back when Kwamy and I were

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Speaker 1: people just wondered, what are those guys doing over there?

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Speaker 1: So Kwamy and I became good friends, and we stayed

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Speaker 1: that way until his untimely death in two nineteen at

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Speaker 1: age forty nine. Another player that's high on the list

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Speaker 1: is Jason Wright. Jason came to the Cardinals in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine from the Cleveland Browns and he served

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Speaker 1: Cardinals accomplished a rare feat that year. If you recall

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and nine, not many teams had

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, and Wright's leadership was a

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Speaker 1: big reason why. That leadership led to some unique opportunities

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Speaker 1: in the business world. Once Wright retired and Jason now

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Speaker 1: runs one of the biggest brand names in all of sports,

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Speaker 1: the Washington Football Team. So Jason talks with us about

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Speaker 1: his path from an NFL player to an NFL team president,

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Speaker 1: the timing of when we can expect a new name

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Speaker 1: for the team, his fondest memories of being a cardinal,

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Speaker 1: and his skills as a singer, which nobody knows about.

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Speaker 1: So here's the president of the Washington Football Team, the

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Speaker 1: groundbreaking President. More on that in just a second with

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Speaker 1: Jason Wright on the Day Pash podcast. Jason is so

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Speaker 1: great to catch up with you, man. I'm such a

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Speaker 1: big fan. You're one of my all time favorite players.

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Speaker 1: When I get asked a lot, hey, who's your favorite cardinal?

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Speaker 1: I have a long list, but you're up there, man,

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Speaker 1: not just because of you as a player, but you

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Speaker 1: as a person. And we'll get into that a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. But the first thing I want to ask

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Speaker 1: being a president? Well, first, thanks for having me, and

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of cricket eyes when you mentioned me

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Speaker 1: on the list of partners like ooh, but I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that there's myriad ways that being a player prepared me

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Speaker 1: for this. I actually think that being a player prepared

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Speaker 1: me for business written large, and then that's applied to

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Speaker 1: being the president of the team, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that are really critical that

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Speaker 1: just the ability to have hyper focus when needed. It's

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Speaker 1: something that happens uniquely in high level college and professional athletics.

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Speaker 1: I think entertainers and musicians can get in this space too,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a really hard for a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, I can think back to when I was

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think our fans were that

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Speaker 1: a ton. You sound like a president. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: sound exactly. I remember when you got the job and

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Speaker 1: I was telling you. Probably remember my partner Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: I was telling Wolf, Yeah, Jason Wright, who was that

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Speaker 1: I was telling? I was telling Wolf, Jason writes a

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Speaker 1: Jason Wright. Interesting and then he thought of goes, wait

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Speaker 1: the fact that basically you went from being an NFL

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how much do you talk football versus how

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Speaker 1: much do you talk business? Yeah? I talk business ninety

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Speaker 1: It's very business savvy. So when I have campaigns and

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Speaker 1: inform some of the decisions we've made. You know, we

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Speaker 1: I want a vocational diversity. I wanted people from outside

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Speaker 1: most near term one, which is a major rebrand. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of the team. Yeah, we will announce our name and

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Speaker 1: brand and identity and all of that in early twenty

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you haven't gotten any emails or calls or

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Speaker 1: texts from fans, friends, colleagues with suggestions. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: never get that. No. Literally, walking down the street in DC,

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Speaker 1: what happened? That's my life right nowadays. How rewarding was

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Speaker 1: last season? I remember texting with you after the game

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