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Speaker 1: Me Around the NFL Podcast can play Glisserine on the guitar.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room field with some different heroes, Colleen Wolf, Christopher Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosa. All. What's up, boys and girls? Hey day,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Welcome to Connie Fox's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is why Connie Fox is so great.

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Speaker 1: First of all, always does a great job on the show.

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Speaker 1: But we we hit her up on text twelve hours

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Speaker 1: before the show. It's like I'm in, I'm basically on call.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're paying you under the table to be here, right,

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Speaker 1: so welcome back. Thanks. Cessler doesn't like getting edged out here.

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Speaker 1: This trend of like, you know, all right, Tessler, just

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Speaker 1: take a day off, go to Canton. We basically just

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Speaker 1: sent him away to Canton just to he did up.

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Speaker 1: He actually did say like he's a little uncomfortable that

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Speaker 1: every time he leaves, a charismatic female steps into his

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Speaker 1: spot because eventually a suit is gonna be like, well

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Speaker 1: that that makes sense a little that works. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: get back soon. Mark. He's at the Hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna tell us on Monday how that's

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Speaker 1: the Browns, so that'll be nobody can replace Mark now

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Speaker 1: Mark is Mark is a touchstone part of the show.

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Speaker 1: I will also say that um that Mark is gonna

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Speaker 1: on the phone and see what's going on in Berea

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Speaker 1: and beyond. Um West. How you doing, buddy, I'm doing great. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Last last show, we had a superstar, Tony Romo on

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Speaker 1: when a big time star comes on, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to Tony Romo on the phone. You'll notice we have

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Speaker 1: what happens. I agree with the people who said, well,

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Speaker 1: I I already heard way more positive than negative about Romos.

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Speaker 1: On Romo come in that people were just excited. I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, to know that he's that big of

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Speaker 1: When he was talking about arts and crafts. Tonty Romo

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Speaker 1: asked me how you asked me how the Wilco concert was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: local concert was great. Brother, We'll get into that a

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Speaker 1: I said, good, this is a great show. You're feeling

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Speaker 1: good about it. Yeah, we got we got the whole

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Speaker 1: Great show. We're gonna get into. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of hacks out there, a lot of

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Speaker 1: jabronies I call them in this the sports media journals

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Speaker 1: forget that. We're gonna do some under the radar storylines

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Speaker 1: I've got a bone to pick with you, TD. What's up?

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Speaker 1: I watched? I woke up early today and I watched

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Speaker 1: I had an unbreak up iPad. You see the jokes

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Speaker 1: he will be supported and helped and he will not

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Speaker 1: have to walk this path. Alonge, If one person out

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Speaker 1: there reads this and you're struggling, get help, Go get it.

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Speaker 1: You're worth it. You're worth it value in every human being.

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Speaker 1: a heavy rotation because they believe Trey Mason. The word

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Speaker 1: he used as special, which backs up with Greg's been

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that the most exciting backfield in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the weirdest points you've ever tried

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Speaker 1: to pick with me, West, that somehow Trey Mason and

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley are not a very exciting duo. How is

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Speaker 1: coming off in a c l Well, eventually he'll be healthy.

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Speaker 1: People get excited about rookies. You're ready to put Kevin

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Speaker 1: White in Canton. He can't even you know, run on

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Speaker 1: hard ground. Football is not playing in the pool, West,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get on the grass. I've played football in

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Speaker 1: the pool before. What is the what is the old line?

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Speaker 1: You can't make the club in the tub? You're a

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Speaker 1: fool in the pool. What I've never heard that one?

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Speaker 1: Just keep going a slub in the tub. Michael Floyd

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Speaker 1: to Michael Floyd, by the way, gross injury, three dislocated fingers.

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Speaker 1: Did we ever get the uh what happened with that?

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Speaker 1: but I think he actually, I don't know how it happened,

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Speaker 1: but he landed on the football. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: that made skin go through his three dislocated fingers in

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Speaker 1: the and the skin his bones went through the fingers.

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Speaker 1: But they think he might miss week one, but won't

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Speaker 1: be out too long. I feel like I would be

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Speaker 1: my career would be over. I just cut the fingers

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Speaker 1: off because that's too uh. Darren McFadden still nursing that

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Speaker 1: hamstring strain. He'll be back on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Um Mark's boy Markibius Mingo. He got his

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Speaker 1: knie scoped. He's out a few weeks. Uh. They hope

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Speaker 1: he'll be back in a month, but that's just a

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Speaker 1: hopeful timetable. According to rap Sheet, Robert Mathis might not

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Speaker 1: back to be back to October without achilles injury. D Milner,

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Speaker 1: my boy, the former number one pick of the Jets,

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Speaker 1: had risk surgery on Friday. Or we'll be having surgery

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Speaker 1: as they're getting hurt in practice. He continues to be

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Speaker 1: snake bit and our boy. Kiko Alonso, the chunky soup

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Speaker 1: pitch man, suffered a concussion, So that's something to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on. I would keep an eye on the

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Speaker 1: McFadden and Fred Jackson injuries. Fred Jackson we talked about

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Speaker 1: as a guy that might not make the Bill's team necessarily.

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Speaker 1: He was he was expected to. You missed three weeks

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Speaker 1: and your hamstrings not ready for week one, they could

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Speaker 1: think about cutting. And Darren McFadden. I've been thinking they're

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Speaker 1: going to sign another veteran there this whole time, and

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't get back and look good, I think

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Speaker 1: that's almost for sure going to happen. Also, the Floyd

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Speaker 1: injury good news for John Brown to Smokey brown le alright,

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Speaker 1: just for fun, West, John Brown, you ready, seventy receptions

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Speaker 1: over under? I think he nailed it eight touchdowns under.

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Speaker 1: By the way, talk about not answering the question seventy

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Speaker 1: as if he's gonna exactly get what would be Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. I'm just saying seventy three or

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Speaker 1: sixty eight is a little bit of a seer here.

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Speaker 1: Just watch. I like John Brown. I'm going over for

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Speaker 1: that one. Pick him up in your fantasy Fantasy Spectacular

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Speaker 1: Week for Around the NFL podcast is coming up starting

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Speaker 1: next week. I believe no the week of August sixteen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dedicate parts of all three shows to some

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Speaker 1: fantasy talks. I got these football heads in here, and

483
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Speaker 1: I gotta do something with him. And Mark's here to

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Speaker 1: He'll be here to keep us company. But you know,

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Speaker 1: with Wesson great are these guys built roadal world brick

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Speaker 1: by brick, So just get ready for all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Apologies to Evan Silva who's like throwing his uh his

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Speaker 1: podcast player against the wall. Hey, before we move on,

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Speaker 1: Michael Floyd h gross injury tweet. I had a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago grosser sports industry injuries five to one.

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Speaker 1: Number five dislocated elbow, number four, collapse slash, punctured lung

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Speaker 1: number three, ruptured achilles gross number two quote muscle torn

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Speaker 1: from bone. Yeah, that one. That is the Arian Foster

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Speaker 1: Special and the number one grosser sports injury is compound fracture.

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Speaker 1: That's the longest drum roll drop ever, clearly interrupted our

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Speaker 1: production meeting and our free show set up just to

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Speaker 1: get that in. Give me what I want, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want what I want. No, that's that's huge for

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Speaker 1: compound fracture though, just because the things have been going

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Speaker 1: great for to get that kind of recognition, It's been

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Speaker 1: a long time coming all overlooked the greatest of all

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Speaker 1: gross sports industry injuries. So yes, that's that. Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in the news. One little last

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Speaker 1: bit of news, TD, I'll throw it to you because

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Speaker 1: you're very knowledgeable and you have a lot of like

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Speaker 1: quality hot takes on this. Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson hinted

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Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show UH this week that Sierra

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Speaker 1: is UH pop star girlfriend could soon be engaged, and

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Speaker 1: I guess Patrick had a follow up, what's gonna come

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Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl ring or engagement ring? Wilson responded,

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Speaker 1: hopefully both come on us. I'm not even about this.

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Speaker 1: Talk directly to Russell exactly. I'm want to speak directly

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Speaker 1: to his friends. Are you off of him yet? He's

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Speaker 1: my guys, But I'm gonna speak to his friends. Reading

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Speaker 1: article about his friends and sports illust think give t

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Speaker 1: D the floor boys right now, this is where you

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Speaker 1: earn your keep. You need to pull your boy russes

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Speaker 1: to the side and be like, dude, you need to

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Speaker 1: slow it down. You know you need to slow down. No,

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Speaker 1: see how I was hot. I know she's cool. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: You already have the girl. You don't. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to act like a fan right now, Russell, you can't

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Speaker 1: be even if you do want to get married to

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Speaker 1: this girl, you don't put that out there on the news.

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Speaker 1: What happens surprising with the proposal and all that stuff. Russell,

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Speaker 1: How maybe we can talk about this because you need

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Speaker 1: somehow I like the relationship advice excellent analysis by TV.

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Speaker 1: You're saying you shouldn't talk about your relationship to Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick's suddenly that it's maybe Ciarra and Russell Wilson are

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Speaker 1: on the same page on this. But what if cr

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Speaker 1: is just like, I'm having fun with this football player

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Speaker 1: and he's going on and telling like people in the

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Speaker 1: media that he's hoping to have an engagement ring on

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Speaker 1: her finger in like six months. That's my biggest fear,

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Speaker 1: total deal breaker, man, Now, that's my biggest fear. That

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Speaker 1: Coy Colin. You're a married woman now, But imagine at

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Speaker 1: the early stage of your courtship with Gonza if if

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Speaker 1: he would have been saying that, well, we were we

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Speaker 1: only dated for five months and then we were engaged.

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Speaker 1: He did, But did he ever go on Cus and

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Speaker 1: Philly and just start talking about let's save us for

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Speaker 1: the Cupid Strikes Hard podcast, Colleen, We'll save that for February.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a good one anyway. But my point being,

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Speaker 1: forget gons over a second, I mean more, just the

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Speaker 1: idea of someone telling the public about his intentions about

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Speaker 1: your relationship to get married just kind of way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fine as long as it's a complete pr scheme.

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Speaker 1: That will be over And so it is, and that's

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Speaker 1: even grosser. That's that's that would be the only thing

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Speaker 1: more disappointing. Alright, let's move on. Alright, under the radar storylines.

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Speaker 1: I told you about all those chumps in the media

552
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Speaker 1: that all they do like whoa blah blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: he is important things, Peyton Manning straight. Forget all that.

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00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: We're going deeper, We're digging. That's the type of stuff

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Speaker 1: we do around here, under the radar storylines from camp,

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Speaker 1: stuff that not everybody's talking about. And I've set it

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Speaker 1: up so much, and it's only fitting that Connie Fox

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Speaker 1: starts it off. What is your story? So Tim Tebow,

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Speaker 1: it seems like, all right, yeah, sure he might not

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Speaker 1: be under the radar. But the under the radar thing

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Speaker 1: about Brandon Graham is in love with Tim Tebow. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: not only did he say that he's going to make

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Speaker 1: the teams going, he's going to score nine touchdown pounce.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin led the team last year with ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: La Shawn McCoy had five. There's no way he's going

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Speaker 1: to score nine touchdowns. The very specific number two is

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Speaker 1: exactly so it's like he has buzzes almost like John Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Seventies seventy catches. Yeah, so that takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of wayos to say that. I think, right, if

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow scores nine touchdowns this year, all of our

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Speaker 1: lives will be less enjoyable. I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 1: say you'll eat my softball pants all the all the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media pundits, Tom Tebow, who's that? Where about? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that was good. I have an actual good one.

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Speaker 1: But we won't go into that. Now. We got wes up.

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Speaker 1: I've got We're coming back to you. Tebow is making

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Speaker 1: the team. She's right. I didn't think he was gonna

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Speaker 1: make the team. He's gonna make the team. Remember, Doug

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Speaker 1: Martin used to be a good running back for the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers in the World muscle Hampster. Did you know he's

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Speaker 1: starting for the Bucks again? He's to be their lead back.

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Speaker 1: Lovey Smith said this week under the Radar. I feel

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Speaker 1: like every year we look for a guy in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago was Ryan Matthews, last year was mark Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Guys who have been written off as no good anymore

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Speaker 1: but their former number one draft picks. And you can

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Speaker 1: see when they play in the preseason that these guys

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Speaker 1: have recaptured whatever form they lost. Ingram had it last year,

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Speaker 1: Matthews d before. I think Doug Martin could be that guy.

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Speaker 1: I really think c J. Spiller is the guy, but

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm confident in that Doug Martin is the guy.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if he c J. Spiller? Is

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Speaker 1: that the storyline that all the Jabroni schmos? No you're talking,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm talking. Under their radar never been

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Speaker 1: explained why Doug Martin turned into a bad running back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was weird. He had the shoulder injury. But last year.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting though. Shoulder injuries on running backs. You

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Speaker 1: don't think about it because it's not their legs, But

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Speaker 1: if you watch any running back who's had a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: they stopped hitting the whole aggressively. Ryan Matthews, perfect example,

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Speaker 1: broke both clavitals that year before mark Ingram last year

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Speaker 1: was blowing through defenses, then had a shoulder injury, and

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Speaker 1: you could tell, is this his explosive playmaking ability wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: They just don't blow through holes as hard. And maybe

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Speaker 1: the blocking will be better too. With two new guys

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Donovan Smith, I would not hold

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Speaker 1: my breath for that one. Allie Mark but I don't

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Speaker 1: know about Hobart, but Connor's boy, Ali Marpett. I've got

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Speaker 1: a candidate to be the kind of Ryan Matthews or

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Speaker 1: mark Ingram who emerges in preseason. How about Ryan Matthews.

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Speaker 1: I like it people saying Ryan Matthews looking better than

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray and Philadelphia everybody. I'm just saying, I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's Ryan Matthews if you put them next to

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Speaker 1: each other. Lewis Riddick, who is really good on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: he says, if you watch them in practice, Ryan Matthew's

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Speaker 1: better running. You know who else has been saying that

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Speaker 1: all offseason on this podcast. Don't be surprised if Ryan

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Speaker 1: Matthews out rushes DeMarco Murray. I've been saying that since

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Speaker 1: they signed both. I like that. Um I will throw

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Speaker 1: one out there, and we're talking up the Broncos is

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Speaker 1: as long as Peyton Manning is healthy, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the mix. They got this running back, running game

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Speaker 1: now solid. You got all the receiving targets. But people

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Speaker 1: are talking about under the radars, this Broncos offensive line,

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Speaker 1: which is in tatters right now. And you have a

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Speaker 1: seventy year old quarterback and you got a running game

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Speaker 1: that you're leaning gonna lean on hard. You want to

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Speaker 1: turn Manning into like the new Elway from the late nineties.

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Speaker 1: But you have uh Luis Basquez is back, he's the

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Speaker 1: right guard. But you could have four starters, new starters

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Speaker 1: on their line. Orlando Franklin left in free agency, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Claydy hurt his knees out for the year. So as

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Speaker 1: much as we we get excited, as long as Peyton's okay,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos are okay. If they have a bad line.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Peyton's gonna get hurt if that happens.

636
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: In the running game won't take off. And we have

637
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: a let's give some kudos to the TV. They've got

638
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Speaker 1: some training camp offensive line footage at one point that

639
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Speaker 1: goes to selly, Actually, okay, good job, good job guys.

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Speaker 1: I would say though, that the offensive lineman that group

641
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: has to have consistent consistency, maybe more than any other group.

642
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Speaker 1: They need to play together and know each other well

643
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Speaker 1: for it to work. And with all of these new

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Speaker 1: pieces and the inexperience that's concerning well, they're still figuring

645
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Speaker 1: out who it's gonna be. So on Thursday, for the

646
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: first time, they had trim Bio, trim Bua whatever it is,

647
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Speaker 1: at leftax Embrio at left tackle. Then you have Max

648
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: Garcia left guard, Matt Paradise at center. All three of

649
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: those guys you've never taken a snap in the NFL.

650
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: Those last two guys you made him up, one guy

651
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: who was on the practice squad left year, another rookie.

652
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: None of them's like a character from Jack Carouac. There's

653
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Speaker 1: a chance that from left tackle to center, they'll have

654
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: three guys that have never played a snap. That's a concern.

655
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Speaker 1: You don't hear national guys talking about that. Is there

656
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: any other quarterback that can't deal with it? Better? Though?

657
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Maybe watch you're afraid of him getting hurt, but fair

658
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: point because of his his pre staff judgment. But he's

659
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: got a new offense too. He's never running Gary Kubiak

660
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: offense before. Watched ten different NFL shows or podcast listen

661
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: to him here. A lot of Chump's talking, talking, talking.

662
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: You'll never hear them talk about Paradise. You'll never hear

663
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Speaker 1: him talking about Max Garcia is getting our part by

664
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Speaker 1: the way him and Rushmore. You know who has talked

665
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: about a lot at this point last year was the

666
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: free agent who got paid the most money all lost

667
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: off season. One of our old friends on the Around

668
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, Jared's Bird of the New Orleans old

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00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: friend and you know, it's been a long time we

670
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: haven't heard that. Partly because you know, people aren't ready

671
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: for the drop sometimes, but other otherwise it's because he's

672
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: no one's heard. Where is Jared's Bird? That was a

673
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: subtwee on podcast. No No one seemed Jared's bird in

674
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: a long time. He actually was. He was back. Who

675
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: were talking Abouted that very tough name to pronounce, tough

676
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: for him to get on the field. He had that

677
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: back surgery last year. He had the knee surgery. Then

678
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: he shows up to camp this year and Sean Payton

679
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: won't won't say what's wrong with him, But he just

680
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced at all. No one's seen him and they

681
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: won't even say what it is. And he said last

682
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: year that missing O T s and missing some of

683
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: training camp actually affected his chemistry a lot. With the secondary. Well,

684
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that was one of the under under the radar Jared's

685
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: bird stories is when he was on the field last year,

686
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: he was a disaster. I mean, he's so is Kenny

687
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Vacaro right, he was, He's been one of I mean

688
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: it's early, but it's been a terrible, terrible signing. We

689
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: didn't even mention that when we talked about the bad

690
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: scene signings working out. Let's throw out a couple more

691
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: before we move on. Clay Matthews stuck at inside linebacker.

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00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Didn't didn't We kind of expect that would have been

693
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: just a short term thing. Well, isn't he playing inside

694
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: on early downs and then moving outside on passing downs. Possibly,

695
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: we'll see, but they seems like that could work well

696
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: for they're really not expecting that. They think they're really

697
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: bad at inside linebacker, and he's not moving based. It

698
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: seemed like a move out of desperation, but it's just

699
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: sticking now. He can't be too thrilled about it. How

700
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: about Hakeem Knicks, Titans wide receiver. I feel like I'm

701
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: on an island on this one. Nobody really wanted to

702
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: sign him, and every time I read wrote a world

703
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 1: they're killing him for being a bad player. I wrote

704
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: an article late last year because when I watched the

705
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: Quotes film, he was making plays on a weekly basis

706
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: for a five or six weeks stretch that he hadn't

707
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: made since that Super Bowl run. I think he can play,

708
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: and I think he should be. He could be the

709
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Titans right there with Kendall Right as their two best receivers.

710
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: He said the Colts offense wasn't really his style and

711
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: that this sat him now is a little bit better

712
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: for him. I wrote, yes, you seem perplexed. I don't understand.

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00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: I wrote around the NFL post on it. It's like

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00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: he will be the first and only guy to ever

715
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: say the offense that had Andrew Luck and it wasn't

716
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Speaker 1: the good fit for me. It wasn't blabon on Luck, obviously,

717
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: but still, if you're a wide receiver worth with your

718
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Speaker 1: AsSalt is that whatever succeed in that offense. Right, what

719
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: he meant to say was, I'm out playing Reggie Wayne

720
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: by leaps and bounds every week and they're still playing

721
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: this JABRONI eighty snaps a game. I think that's a

722
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: little dispectful. Us. I think I feel like I gave

723
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Speaker 1: a great tribute to Reggie Wayne. I think that gives

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00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: me some leeway. You know what You're right? Westcotow poked

725
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: up talking Reggie Wayne. One last veteran that that's impressed.

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00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Kind of like Nick's out of no where. Stevie Johnson

727
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna start in San Diego. Philip Rivers

728
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: loves them people are and he if we're talking up

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson, come back. That's a mutual affection there. Stevie

730
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: Johnson said the other day, I wish I had Philip

731
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Speaker 1: Rivers from my entire career. M alright, so that is listen,

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00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: that was way under the right. You know there's like

733
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Speaker 1: action movies like we can't see the jets, where are they?

734
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Speaker 1: They're under the radar? US, We're that jets? Good? What

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: movie was that? Like? Some Harrison Ford also ran film

736
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: of mm hmm. It's like when you know we can't

737
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: see him on radar, not thinking, we're more like we're

738
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: more like a souped up car in in nineteen seventy

739
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: eight Southern TV show Sneaking by a cop waiting on

740
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the side of the road. We're losing the audience, all right,

741
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: now we move on. Listen, this is it's time to

742
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: talk about Chris Westling's latest think piece long form. He

743
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: wrote it about the Houston Oilers teams of the late

744
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: uh seventies early eighties. Uh I love you Blue Oilers.

745
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: West This was an opportunity for you to dig in

746
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: on a really uh fun team at that hour, but

747
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: also you got into a little bit of the fan

748
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: experience and what it's like to be a fan. Well,

749
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: this this team is basically the relationship between the fans

750
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: and this team. From what I've I did a lot

751
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: of research. It never happened before or since in the

752
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: history professional sports that a team lost him back to

753
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: back years in the NFC Championship game. And we're welcome

754
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: back home from losses by crowds that were estimated anywhere

755
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: from fifty thousand to three hundred thousand people. They just

756
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: turned out and this team three d three hundred thousand

757
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: people is what Dan pass trini uestimated from the airport

758
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: cars along the highway, guys who were locked locked out

759
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: of the gates of the stadium because it was already

760
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: over capacity and they were waiting in the streets behind barricades.

761
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: So it was basically what Robert Brazil, who um John

762
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: McClean is trying to get into the Hall of Fame

763
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, he was Lawrence Taylor. Before Lawrence Taylor,

764
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the first great three or four outside linebacker. He said,

765
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: you know you've heard of a welcome wagon. This was

766
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: a welcome city. The entire city turned out to welcome

767
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: them home. And it's it's a It's a really cool

768
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: team because bum Phillips, to me is the most fascinating

769
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: coach in NFL history. He created a really good family atmosphere.

770
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: He thought about football differently, he didn't think of it

771
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: as a life and death thing. And it was one

772
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: of the best defensive minds of the era. So they

773
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: they were a winning team because of him, but treated

774
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: his players like man. I think he is a fascinating dude,

775
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: probably one of the funniest guys. And I liked the

776
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Speaker 1: line in your piece. I'm not sure you said that.

777
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: You could let me know, but he kind of played

778
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: up the country bumpkin angle. But he was really a

779
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: smart guy. One president said he was dumb like a fox. Yeah,

780
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: Pastorini said that, and and one of us I read

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00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: it to us about that, I know, well, I knew

782
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: you read it. I had full confidence that you read

783
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: this one. Um. The one of the coolest things about

784
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: it was talking to the guys. They were just really

785
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: cool guys to talk Campbell, you talked to, Oh, Campbell

786
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: was cool. Pastorini is a really good storyteller. Mike Renfro

787
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: couldn't have been nicer. Robert Brazil was great. And this

788
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: article wouldn't have been nearly as good without John McClain

789
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Speaker 1: of the Houston Chronicle, who put me in touch with

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Speaker 1: all those guys. Really, I love the bomb is. Um

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Speaker 1: you haven't here too, I said, I said, a lie

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Speaker 1: bum a lie bum PORI about thirty five of those,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe fifty or sixty o them? Really, and he

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Speaker 1: chose five of them? Yeah, yeah, he bombs is the

795
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: best one liners in NFL history. I told what I

796
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: didn't know much about this team at all. And I'm

797
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, I've read a lot of football books and

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00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: really into it, so I learned a lot, I told.

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Speaker 1: I told West. We we've been reading great history football

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Both of us love reading that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now West is writing it, you know. Now West is

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Speaker 1: on the other side. He's writing to people. Go out

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Speaker 1: there and read the article. I can't wait to read this.

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00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I told West. He's got to write a book eventually,

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00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and I want some of the profits. Maybe why when

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Speaker 1: you get it. Maybe I convinced shadowy lad figures to

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Speaker 1: let me tie all these long form pieces into one

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Speaker 1: book like that, that's no extra work. Then technically, well

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Speaker 1: know what he should do. I've didn't raise no dummy.

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Speaker 1: He does, you know, the six or seven long forms

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Speaker 1: and then he includes including two new ones than you

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Speaker 1: know what you are my agent? There we go. They

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Speaker 1: read this, you could read all this vanity or l

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Speaker 1: That's when you know you did You did very well.

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Speaker 1: Uh NFL dot com slash West, you've done did it

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Speaker 1: know West? Great work, Thank you, Dan. I mean the

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Speaker 1: guy can write, all right. I mean the guy. The

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Speaker 1: guy can write all right. So Greg, maybe next time

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Speaker 1: you just say listen, I'm gonna give you the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt West. You can write. Kids. This is

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Speaker 1: one of those sports hired me this. Yeah, I brought

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Speaker 1: him from r They hired him twice. Alright, what do

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Speaker 1: is have college? Next time you doubt West that you

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Speaker 1: read one of his long form I read his long forms.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who I matter. It's all those somebody's

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Speaker 1: not giving us enough credits. There's chumps in the national media. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what is. It's one of those radios. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: tell you what, I don't care what people say. Don

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Speaker 1: Brady is a great quarterback. I don't care what they're

834
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Speaker 1: saying out there. He can do it. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: a stand, all right. So that's that. Hey, we got

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Speaker 1: to bring him back because it's been too long. He

837
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Speaker 1: is our around the NFL New Jersey Correspondent. He lives

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Speaker 1: in a house that has a mortgage. He's only twenties

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Speaker 1: six years old or so, but he is a man

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Speaker 1: wise behind his ears. He is Connor or what's up, buddy?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Conn So that's Connor And if

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Speaker 1: you know Connors on there, you know it's time to

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Speaker 1: do our our semi weekly segment where Connor gets something

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Speaker 1: off his chest because life is hard, man, and he's

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Speaker 1: running around, he's making those mortgage payments, he's got a

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Speaker 1: fiance to deal with, he's covering jets and giants, camps,

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Speaker 1: busy guy, so he's got to get it off his chest.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we have a segment called are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? All right, Connor, this is your chance. Let

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Speaker 1: a fly baby, Dan hands this. I want to know

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Speaker 1: after finding out this week, like really finding out for

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Speaker 1: the first time what went down between uh Tanya Harding

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Speaker 1: and Nancy Kerrigan, why don't we have awesome sports controversy.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point we need buzz. Was this brought

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Speaker 1: on by Drake and Meek Mill? It was it was

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Speaker 1: brought on by me reading the Tom Brady settlementes of

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Speaker 1: like Tippy emails and like, you know, it's ridiculous Pippy

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Speaker 1: emails straight to my spam folder. I mean, like, let's

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Speaker 1: let's get real again. I mean this girl's boyfriend like

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Speaker 1: club this lady, and I mean it was you know,

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Speaker 1: not I'm not going to say incredible, but it was

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Speaker 1: relatively nothing too bad happens. She got to skate in

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Speaker 1: the Olympics. Anyway, Let's get back to that. It's awesome

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Speaker 1: alright a little bit. What we're hearing from Connor is

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Speaker 1: we need more goons taking people out by the leg.

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Speaker 1: You need more. I think what Connor saying is you

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Speaker 1: need more cartoonish violence and basically just kind of soap

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Speaker 1: operatipe sporil storylines in the sports world. We're missing those

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Speaker 1: right now. I think it's like, you know, now everything,

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Speaker 1: uh creates the opportunity for someone to write like an

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Speaker 1: eight thousand words think Beasts, and like there's like if

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Speaker 1: something like that happened, it's just like, oh man, that's

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Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Like there's no think pie. It's just this

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Speaker 1: is hilarious and ridiculous long form more like long bore.

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Speaker 1: What else he got, Connor? You got anything else? Um? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, we could go all day. You know.

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Speaker 1: I also wanted to complain about the lack of of

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Speaker 1: of Nicholas Shade, but I can do that next week.

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Speaker 1: The lack of Now, let's just keep that one crooner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's the most well adjusted, uh

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Speaker 1: sports figure slash boy band personality from the nineties, and

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Speaker 1: we just let him gets here. He's a sports figure.

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Speaker 1: Do we have like a Flamenco guitar solo for him? Disappear?

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Speaker 1: I know what Connor is getting at there. He's a

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Speaker 1: local hero in Cincinnati. When I was back there a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, he had just opened up a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: It's very nice. We walked back. Is it called degrees chase?

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Speaker 1: So your your your final hot take? And I feel

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Speaker 1: like I take responsibility for letting the segment go further.

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Speaker 1: Here your your take. Their Connor is Nikola. She put

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Speaker 1: him back in the spotlight because he never deserved to leave. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like Tim bring to the conversation?

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Speaker 1: Like nick La is a hardcore USC fan. He knows

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Speaker 1: a lot about Cincinnati basketball. I saw him at the

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Speaker 1: Big East Tournament once, just hanging out in like terrible seats.

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Speaker 1: He's also, it seems like a genuinely good guy. And

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Speaker 1: he he was the first man to married Jessica Simpsons.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. It does go back to

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Speaker 1: Connor's really view on life in general. If you were

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Speaker 1: nice to Connor in person, you were good. He's cool

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Speaker 1: with you. If you ever at all, You're done trusted sources,

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Speaker 1: You're done ton all right Connor? Well, I mean, are

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Speaker 1: we gonna say it? Oh? Yeah, that stupid me? Thank you, Wes.

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Speaker 1: What do you have anything else to say? Connor? I

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Speaker 1: have to say, were you kidding me? Thank you? Connor?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? I have a good weekend. That was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing, Like he ran the nick

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Speaker 1: Lache thing by me last week, and I thought, like

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what Connor was saying that and I didn't,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know if he would be able to

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Speaker 1: summon like the rage, how it grinds his gears. I

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Speaker 1: didn't really sense the rage there. But the first topic,

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Speaker 1: I I know exactly what he's talking about. We need

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Speaker 1: some proper controversies. Yeah, we need more of those. We

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Speaker 1: need more people breaking people's legs before Olympics. This is

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Speaker 1: something that Damaged actually been begging for for a while.

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Speaker 1: He really hates that that the NFL is not more

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Speaker 1: like uh w WF wrestling. Well, the controversies are you know, rather, yes,

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Speaker 1: the flake Gate a lot of legal stuff last year.

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Speaker 1: I leave it at that. Bounty Gate wasn't exactly as

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Speaker 1: it's a little too self serious. And even our our

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Speaker 1: friend in a nutshell Tony Romo or friend yesterday, it

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Speaker 1: was hard to get him to open up. Everybody's buttoned

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Speaker 1: up by blame Peyton Manny for everything. I think you

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Speaker 1: bring back the celebrations and then it just trickles down

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Speaker 1: from there. All right, So connor doing God's work before

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Speaker 1: we go uh t D I should I want to

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Speaker 1: cut you off at the past here because we need

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Speaker 1: to go over the results of the poll about your

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Speaker 1: m v P segment and take this however you will.

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Speaker 1: But um, over six thousand votes were cast and seventy

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Speaker 1: eight percent of our listenership says no more TV m

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Speaker 1: v P segment four thousand, seven eight two votes against

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Speaker 1: one thousand, three hundred sixty six saying it should stay.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on that. Well. First

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Speaker 1: of all, obviously was rigged, um, but let me it

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Speaker 1: was even for a few days it was e rt

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Speaker 1: dans uh. I think my fan base doesn't care for

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Speaker 1: TDS m v P. Here's the thing, and TD you

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Speaker 1: have a point because it was about fifty fIF for

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Speaker 1: the first i'd say twelve to eighteen hours, and then

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Speaker 1: when we sent out the second to I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you have some enemies out there, but also I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of runaway so uh, I think that

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Speaker 1: that decides it. And unless you want to have one

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Speaker 1: more before we say goodbye to the segment spoken, I'll

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Speaker 1: say this Dan, what wise man was told me. If

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Speaker 1: you don't have haters, you're doing it wrong. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have haters that somebody who's really hated by a lot

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Speaker 1: of people probably um. Secondly, that's why I gave it

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Speaker 1: to Mark last time. I knew the segment was coming

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Speaker 1: to that was that was good by, But I would

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Speaker 1: say that I had to do it one last time

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Speaker 1: and the drops it back as we noted. And that's

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Speaker 1: because not because I was not paying attention to the shows,

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Speaker 1: because we have a whole lot more going on, because

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Speaker 1: starting next week we're going to be an NFL now

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Speaker 1: dot com video show. You can watch some of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can watching some of that stuff right now. And

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Speaker 1: that is because the team behind the glass and put

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Speaker 1: it in crazy work, and it's very true, much better

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Speaker 1: working yourself. Well, I'm not to celebrate. I'm giving the

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Speaker 1: team behind the Glass the v because he made it

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Speaker 1: a lot better. And are we missing the real story

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Speaker 1: here Sully and branded behind the Glass there. Uh you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people are doing have at work,

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Speaker 1: but those are the two guys that are right behind

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Speaker 1: TV and they do excellent jobs. So that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. Three minutes ago, West said he had a

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Speaker 1: fan base. That's the breaking news. US is now in

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Speaker 1: two long forms and the ego is just out of control.

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Speaker 1: Fan base, my fans. I can't believe, I said, maybe

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Speaker 1: we can you cut I can't believe, I said, my

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Speaker 1: fan Let's cut that and play it again at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. Everybody the exact moment that West

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Speaker 1: was taken over by egomania. It's so true. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's it for Friday's edition to be around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Colleen Wolf, Connie Fox, thank you both

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Speaker 1: of us had a great Yes, make sure you're subscribe

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Speaker 1: on iTunes. Dan hands is signing off for the Wolf Woman,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, and every Behind the Glass to

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Speaker 1: my day, I r T Dan's uh sweet, I think

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Speaker 1: my fan base doesn't care for t d's m v

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