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Speaker 2: Sports Radio as well. Steelers handled the Dolphins twenty eight

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Speaker 2: point fifteen. It was more impressive than the final score.

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Speaker 2: There was some garbage time touchdowns there with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburg is now eight and six, Miami is now six

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Speaker 2: and eight. But you start to look at the Steelers

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Speaker 2: now the rest of the season. At eight and six,

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Speaker 2: they're a game up on the Ravens. The Steelers at

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Speaker 2: the Lions, at the Browns and they host the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Ravens will host the Patriots. They're at the Packers and

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Speaker 2: then they host the Steelers. So Steelers can win out

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Speaker 2: and if they do went out, then they're going to

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Speaker 2: be in. As for the Ravens, if they went out,

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Speaker 2: they're going to probably be in, or at least Steelers

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Speaker 2: would have the tiebreaker. Right now, I believe in the division.

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Speaker 2: But at eight and six is everything? Okay, they didn't

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Speaker 2: have TJ. Watt last night. Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But man, I watched that Dolphins offense. I thought they

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Speaker 2: were going to run the football. I just thought, here

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Speaker 2: we go. You don't have TJ. Watt. We're running the

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Speaker 2: football and we'll sprinkle in some passes and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Mike McDaniel is asked this question about

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Speaker 2: his core quarter back after the game.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be very rash and short sighted

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Speaker 3: if I even tried to tackle that option. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think I have to look at the tape and

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Speaker 3: and I'll move on from there. But realistically, I'm just

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Speaker 3: supremely disappointed that, you know, we couldn't come out with

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Speaker 3: a win here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ran a two minute drill, and even Troy

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Speaker 2: Aikman said, why did it take so long? They should

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Speaker 2: have come out as a two minute drill if they

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Speaker 2: weren't going to run the football, just do a two

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Speaker 2: minute drill the entire game and just see how this

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Speaker 2: is going to play out there. But I think that

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Speaker 2: was what was surprising is Troy's like, why did it

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Speaker 2: take you so long? Here's Troy Aikman on the call.

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Speaker 4: This is just a bizarre last few series, and they

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Speaker 4: don't go hurry up.

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Speaker 2: Now they're going hurry up calling timeouts.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's hard to understand exactly what the philosophy.

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Speaker 2: Took it out, so they need delay game on top

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Speaker 2: of it. By the way, Troy has no more filter,

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Speaker 2: which is great. He just he's kind of like that

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Speaker 2: old guy. You get to a certain age and I

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Speaker 2: know that age where you're allowed to say things and

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Speaker 2: people go and now he's just old. I mean Troy's

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Speaker 2: not old, but in you know, broadcaster years, where like

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Speaker 2: he's been around a long time. You know, you just

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Speaker 2: say what you feel. Peyton does that, but he's not

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Speaker 2: broadcasting the games. Tom Brady, I hope gets to that

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Speaker 2: point where you just you're honest with what you see

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Speaker 2: and you say it. And Troy has been doing that

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But the Steelers improved to

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Speaker 2: eight and six. I don't know how good you feel

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Speaker 2: if you're a Steeler fan, just say, all right, win

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Speaker 2: the division, host a playoff game, maybe get bounced in

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Speaker 2: the first round, or maybe you win the game. But

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Speaker 2: you know, the script sounds familiar. You haven't won a

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Speaker 2: game in a long long time. You're the Steelers, You

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Speaker 2: are used to being a championship team, and what you

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Speaker 2: saw last night is that sustainable. I don't know when TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt is going to come back, but Aaron Rodgers played well,

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Speaker 2: you know, and once again the Dolphins with a couple

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Speaker 2: of garbage touchdowns made it seem like it was a

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Speaker 2: little bit closer than that, but it wasn't. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Miami's got some issues here obviously because they sort of

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Speaker 2: had a fire sale. But then they started to win games.

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Speaker 2: And now you have the do you keep your coach?

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Speaker 2: Did you see enough with your coach? The fact that

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Speaker 2: these last three games are they going to play hard?

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Speaker 2: And then you got the two wik question because you're

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Speaker 2: going to owe him close to what forty five million

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Speaker 2: dollars next year, and then you're going to probably move

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Speaker 2: on from him. And it's weird when you watch. You know,

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Speaker 2: you can be a really bright quarterback. You can put

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Speaker 2: the ball in the right place and you don't have

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Speaker 2: to have a great arm, but there are times when

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Speaker 2: you do. You have to have an arm that you

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Speaker 2: can put something in and you can do it from

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Speaker 2: twenty yards out. And that's my concern with tua I

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Speaker 2: just he can give you the precision kind of passing

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Speaker 2: and you know, ten yards this way, five yards this way.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't threaten me if I'm a defensive back, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him unless somebody actually runs an

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Speaker 2: incredible route and is wide open. But you don't see

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Speaker 2: that very often, and it feels like everything is right

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Speaker 2: in front of the defense, the defensive backs, and it's

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Speaker 2: just non threatening. I really thought a Chant was going

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Speaker 2: to have a dominating game. I thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to run for one hundred and fifty yards. I thought

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Speaker 2: that was going to be the philosophy. And then you watch,

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Speaker 2: First of all, that was a very boring game to start,

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Speaker 2: like you're going, come on, guys, pick it up, come on,

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Speaker 2: let's go. And then it got a little interesting. And

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Speaker 2: then the Steelers scored four consecutive drives, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Dolphins go, hey, why don't we

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Speaker 2: try a two minute drill? Hey, there's a little success here.

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Speaker 2: But you start to look at a bigger picture with

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins. You got to get a new GM. You

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Speaker 2: see a new GM brings in a coach. Has Mike

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Speaker 2: McDaniel done enough where you go he still feels like

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Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator? He just does. And you know, I've

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Speaker 2: said this many times, not everybody is a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Not everybody should be a head coach because it takes

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Speaker 2: different talents to be a head coach. Offensive coordinator, you

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Speaker 2: got one job. You deal with that. When you're the

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Speaker 2: CEO of the team. Every press conference, you're asked questions offense, defense,

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Speaker 2: special teams, dealing with management, all of that, dealing with

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Speaker 2: the draft, free agency, all of that. But when you're

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Speaker 2: a coordinator, you get locked in and you're really good

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Speaker 2: at what you do. We love to go how he

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Speaker 2: deserves to get a head coaching job. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys who shouldn't be or shouldn't have been head

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Speaker 2: Sometimes if you're an owner, you know that guy doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the capabilities of being a head coach, but he's

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Speaker 2: really really good. Like Leo Mazzoni was a great pitching

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Speaker 2: coach for the Braves, but I didn't look at him

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Speaker 2: specialized in that Charlie Weiss, I didn't look at him

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Speaker 2: off you know, as a really good coordinator. Romeo Cronell

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Speaker 2: with the Patriots, really good coordinator, but not a head coach.

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Speaker 2: And I look at Mike McDaniel and look have we

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Speaker 2: had him on and we enjoy his you know, the conversation. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: he's quirky, it's fun, different. But I look at him

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Speaker 2: as a coordinator. Now, I'm sure he'll get a job someplace.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll keep him in Miami. But

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Speaker 2: you you know, you got the Tyreek Hill situation. What

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Speaker 2: are you gonna do with waddle? Like you it feels

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Speaker 2: like you have a couple of pieces there. It's just

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Speaker 2: it starts with the quarterback and I just don't think

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Speaker 2: that he is a starting quarterback until further notice. Yeah, Paulie, the.

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Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill situation, it might be the biggest of the situations.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people thought they would trade him before

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Speaker 6: the trade deadline, then he got injured. I mean, there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of speculation. His dead cap hit if they

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Speaker 6: released him is twenty nine million dollars. If they keep him,

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Speaker 6: you don't have they have to pay him next year

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Speaker 6: fifty million bucks to play wide receiver fifty million. All

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Speaker 6: most of his money is on the back end of

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Speaker 6: that last year of his contract fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's there next year. That might

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Speaker 2: be additioned by subtraction. I just don't want to get

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Speaker 2: into an Antonio Brown situation where you know he's going

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Speaker 2: to be selfish and he's gonna want touches, and you

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Speaker 2: know he can be incredible, but you know, coming off

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Speaker 2: an injury and that kind of price tag, I don't

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Speaker 2: want that. But you know you're going to take that hit,

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Speaker 2: and then the following year, you know you'll probably get

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Speaker 2: rid of Tua. It's just it's been twenty I think

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Speaker 2: twenty five years since the Dolphins have won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Can you check on that. I think that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: we talk about you know, hey, the Steelers haven't had

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Speaker 2: won a playoff game in what ten years? Nine years?

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Dolphins have won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: in twenty five years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul December thirtieth, two thousand against the Colts in

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Speaker 6: overtime of the wild card round.

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Speaker 2: See pull question? First hour, the program is going to

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Speaker 2: be what.

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Speaker 7: Well we got one here for the Dolphins. Can we

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Speaker 7: ask what went wrong with the Dolphins? The head coach

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Speaker 7: or the quarterback? I don't know if that's fare.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: All I can do is go on what I said

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Speaker 2: in real time. I never would have given him that contract.

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Speaker 2: I would have franchised him. I would have made him

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Speaker 2: show me one more time. Now he's been healthier. Now

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Speaker 2: the focus is on his play. And I remember when

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill he came out, he said, my quarterback is

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Speaker 2: the most accurate quarterback in the NFL. And you know, great,

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Speaker 2: he did say some nice things about Tua, But I

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Speaker 2: just I would say the quarterback he's just not he's

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Speaker 2: not an elite quarterback. Doesn't mean he still can't play.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think he threatens you. Like there's

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Speaker 2: certain quarterbacks where you go, uh oh, right, Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: like that, Josh Allen's like that, Lamar's like that. Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow when he's healthy is like that. Justin Herbert's becoming that,

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Speaker 2: even bo Nix is becoming that. There's a whole list

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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks where you go uh oh, two is like

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Speaker 8: So what you're saying is Tua is a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 8: He's not a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's the starting quarterback now, but it might

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Speaker 2: be he gets to that place where next year after

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Speaker 2: next year, then he's kind of hanging out there and

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Speaker 2: it sounds like he's a bad quarterback. I just I

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Speaker 2: want my quarterback. You have to account for him, You

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Speaker 2: got to worry about him. You got a game plan

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Speaker 2: for him. And I don't think that he does that

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Speaker 2: to you. I think you gain plan more for eight

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Speaker 2: Chan than you do for Tua.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I'm not trying to jab him. But back

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Speaker 6: in the day when Alex Smith was on the Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: It's hard to picture Aaron Rodgers having a great game

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Speaker 9: and see you we shaw and for George Dickens, hey

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, uh, there's a reason why he was let go.

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Speaker 2: once again Jim Harbaugh. At the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Comment away. It's the question that won't go away. We

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Speaker 2: keep asking it. Klin de Boor, the Alabama head coach,

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Speaker 2: was asked if he is staying at Alabama.

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Speaker 11: Just for clarity's sake, so things aren't left up to interpretation.

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Speaker 11: Are you gonna be the coach of Alabama next year?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 11: Come on, Nick, I put a statement out yesterday because

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Speaker 11: I just, first of all, our guys handled distractions phenomenally.

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Speaker 11: It's been that way all season long. They continue to

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Speaker 11: continue to build on, love the progress. Haven't talked with anyone,

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Speaker 11: no plans of talking with anyone.

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Speaker 8: So just for clarification and going back to the next question,

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Speaker 8: will you be the coach at Alabama?

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Speaker 9: Nex plant?

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Speaker 11: I'm here, yes, Nick, Yes, Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay. I think he was pretty clear there. But

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Speaker 2: told to me yesterday. Why would you take that job?

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Speaker 2: Right now? It is a mess internally at Michigan and

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Speaker 2: of the month. All right, I was talking about acls.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we're trending down and there's really nothing you

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Speaker 2: here Parsons, Mahon Bosa, Neighbors, Tyreek Hill. You know these

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Speaker 2: That's the study that I would want if I was

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Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, what's the turf? How often on

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Speaker 2: that we the NFL commission And therefore, if you want

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Speaker 2: But you know the fact that it's thirty in counting.

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Speaker 2: to know, you know, Malik Neighbors. You know, the Meadowlands

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Speaker 2: are certain that. I mean, I watched the Commander the

430
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Speaker 2: turf when RG three got hurt. That was criminal. But

431
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: you see some of these fields. I'll go back to

432
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 2: the field when the Dolphin or in Miami it was

433
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals against the Niners with Joe Montana and a

434
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Speaker 2: Bengal lineman, Tim Crumrae blew out his knee and the

435
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Speaker 2: turf was terrible. We've had a couple of Super Bowls

436
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 2: where the players talk about the turf is slick and

437
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: guys falling down in the Super Bowl. So that to

438
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: me is what's alarming. Not that a thirty in counting.

439
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mahomes and Michael Parsons, Malik Neighbors, Okay,

440
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Speaker 2: did they get hurt non contact? Where did they get hurt?

441
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Speaker 2: Did they get hurt on natural turf? Astro turf. Can

442
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Speaker 2: we come up with something that's universal so these players

443
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Speaker 2: can prepare for that, because you don't want to go

444
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: to a game and go what kind of shoes can

445
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Speaker 2: I wear? Yeah?

446
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Speaker 7: Seton ye eating a thing here From the NFLPA, it

447
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 7: says that data supports that artificial turf is significantly harder

448
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Speaker 7: on the body than grass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Specifically, players have a twenty eight percent higher rate of

451
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 7: non contact lower extremity injuries when playing on artificial turf.

452
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Speaker 7: Of those non contact injuries, players have a thirty two

453
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Speaker 7: percent higher rate of non contact knee injuries on turf

454
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Speaker 7: and a sixty nine percent higher rate of non contact

455
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Speaker 7: foot and ankle injuries on turf compared to on grash.

456
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Speaker 7: So the knee injury it goes up thirty two percent,

457
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Speaker 7: but the ankle injuries is sixty nine percent on turf.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you've ever played on it or even

459
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: walked on it, and then you wonder. You know, players

460
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Speaker 2: have talked about certain surfaces feel like concrete, and especially

461
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Speaker 2: in December, when you fall and all of a sudden,

462
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, you bounce off those it doesn't

463
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Speaker 2: help absorb anything. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 7: See, and I think the thing with turf is that

465
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 7: it isn't so much how hard it is, it's that

466
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 7: your foot sticks differently, and that's why you end up

467
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 7: getting these ankle and foot injuries, knee injuries, because the turf.

468
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Speaker 2: Is just so much more sticky. But you've got marquee

469
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: guys Michael Parsons, Patrick Mahomes, Nick Bosum, Leak Neighbors, Tyreek Hill,

470
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Speaker 2: Like these are marquee players getting hurt.

471
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Speaker 6: Yeah, PAULI, I went back and you mentioned the Washington

472
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Speaker 6: Commanders back when they were the Redskins. Robert Griffin iid

473
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Speaker 6: his injury in the twenty thirteen NFL Wildcard game that

474
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Speaker 6: completely disrailed derailed his career. That field is horrid looking.

475
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 6: I know it's late December, but it looked like something

476
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: for a bunch of kids would play in a park

477
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 6: that was unattended. There's just chunks of dirt and very

478
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 6: little grass. He plants his foot in a pile of

479
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Speaker 6: dirt and that's it.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that felt like it was a lawsuit waiting to happen. Oh,

481
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: this feels awful. It is. It was embarrassing to watch that.

482
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: And it's a playoff game. That's where owners get together

483
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Speaker 2: and maybe come up with a product, commission a study,

484
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: and maybe they've done this. But I'm just looking at

485
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: these numbers, and everybody was going, oh my god, look

486
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: at all of those torn acls. And then you realize, no,

487
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: you can go back. You can go back to twenty

488
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Speaker 2: eighteen when we had fifty three of these, fifty two,

489
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: forty nine, fifty twenty twenty one, fifty seven. We're actually

490
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: trending in a better direction. But I just wonder, can

491
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: you come up with something that can be used both

492
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: indoor and out or maybe you just have indoor and

493
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: you have outdoor so these players can at least know

494
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: what's in store. And you've got to test this in

495
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: the weather. What's it like in September, what's it like

496
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 2: in January? Because and maybe it has something to do

497
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: with the shoes that you're wearing as well, But it

498
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: seems like an alarming number because a couple of Marquee

499
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: guys got hurt and are done for the year. It's

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Speaker 2: not an alarming number. Now, I don't know where everybody was,

501
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: including myself, in twenty twenty one when they were fifty

502
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: seven tornyc heals. No, that seems to be an alarming number.

503
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get phone calls coming up. Eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauline, I just found this from NFL dot com

506
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: and it was published yesterday, December fifteen, twenty twenty five.

507
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Speaker 6: Safety and Consistency and Field Services NFL and NFLPA mandatory practices.

508
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 6: They've just made an announcement with the Joint NFL Services Committee,

509
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Speaker 6: which I didn't know. They had develop higher standards and

510
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: establish greater consistency across NFL playing services. I'll send this around,

511
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: but the NFL dot com press release went out yesterday

512
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Speaker 6: at three thirty five about this topic coincidentally.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been in play. Yeah, but why why why? Now?

514
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: Where was this before? Once again, when you get big

515
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: names that get hurt, then all of a sudden people

516
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: want to answers. Here Allison Pittsburgh, Hi Alis, what's on

517
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: your mind today?

518
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Speaker 12: Hi Dan? Thanks for taking my us call. Talking about

519
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 12: the Steelers. And I'm a Steelers fan long time since

520
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 12: the seventies. They're not consistent enough, like they still make

521
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 12: me nervous. They looked good last night, but it was

522
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 12: the Dolphins. I think having Marcus Scantling. I can't remember

523
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 12: his middle.

524
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 13: Name anyway, I think that he was the other guy. Yeah,

525
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 13: I mean he looked the last night that Aaron's played

526
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 13: with him before. We never know what Steelers team is

527
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 13: going to show up, but.

528
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: It feels and I feel your pain now. But here's

529
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: the thing. You've had years, decades where you knew what

530
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: to expect. You should know what to expect out of

531
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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Is they're just a little better than average.

532
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: It's not They're not going to be great now. They

533
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: may have moments, drives, passes, runs, you know, defensive places,

534
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: they're just not this is who they are. They're a

535
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: little better than an average team. H Andrew Washington, I Andrew,

536
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: what's on your mint today?

537
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, Dan Dennetts. Thanks for taking my call.

538
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 14: Real quick before we get to the surfaces, because I

539
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 14: was going to talk about that I had some of

540
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 14: that information that POLYI had. But shout out to Cooper

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Speaker 14: Flag youngest NBA player ever to have forty points in

542
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 14: a game last night, also the only player ever born

543
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 14: in Maine to have forty points in the NBA. But

544
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 14: that surces. This thing didn't get released yesterday. It actually

545
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 14: was agreed upon December fourth. I'm sure they just put

546
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 14: the press release out yesterday just to solidify all the

547
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 14: injuries that happened to the Homes and Parsons. But yeah,

548
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 14: in twenty twenty six, any new or replaced surface must

549
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 14: meet the new standards of this new agreement, and by

550
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 14: twenty twenty eight all NFL stadiums must have approved fields.

551
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 14: I don't know if that's you know, synthetic or if

552
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 14: it's grass, but hey, Dan real Quick, last night's game,

553
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 14: four consecutive TD drives for the Steelers for the first

554
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 14: time since Week two of twenty eighteen. They lost that

555
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 14: game because back in twenty eighteen, that was one of

556
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 14: two Patin Mahomes has had six touchdowns in a game.

557
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 14: So just a quick stat Thanks guys.

558
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: All right, thank you Andrew, Thank you. Buddha in San Francisco, Hi, Buddha,

559
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

560
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Speaker 5: What um DP? Happy Tuesday, boys, Let's go Seaton. June

561
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: third will forever be celebrated as hot take Day. As

562
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 5: the Chief stout out this past weekend, I was like, man,

563
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: that was some proclamation by him. Bloop t u seton

564
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: and Dan real Quick, I was watching Vampezie last night

565
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: and after the game, I did not know Mike Tiland

566
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin.

567
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: Was twelve and oh on Monday night football. I thought

568
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: that was a sneaky stat And DP, why I really

569
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: wanted to call in today was about the Nick Ride

570
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: interview yesterday and I had to take to bring this up.

571
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: But I agreed with his MVP take yesterday, and I

572
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: never agree with his takes. I mean, but I feel

573
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: like the MVP award is comprised of like recency bias

574
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: in the last few weeks of the year, and then

575
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: like not the totality of the year like he was.

576
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: And Dan, I'm one hundred percent with the Dannet collective.

577
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: You cannot put Nick Wright's picture next to Al Michaels.

578
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: That's like the Marquis space. Maybe we're starting out in

579
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: the BRG bathroom or something. And lastly, Dan, I have

580
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: a documentary.

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00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Question for you.

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Speaker 4: I know you've mentioned and spoken about your affinity for

583
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: Biggest Malls. He's one of my favorite rappers RIP, but

584
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: I was wondering if you watched the latest Shancomb documentary.

585
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: It is wild how he ran his world. I have

586
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: not stopped to watch it. Paulie watched a little bit

587
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: of it, so I was I was waiting to see

588
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: if it was worth watching.

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00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauli, it's if you want the backstory of the

590
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 6: past twenty five years in that company.

591
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking now, well this is Fitty sent right, he's

592
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: you see, the one that commissioned this documentary. I don't know.

593
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, fifty he did the documentary. It's a little

594
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 7: unclear as to how he got a lot of the footage.

595
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 7: There's some scandal about that. And I mean, yeah, it

596
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 7: is a it's a documentary from fifties perspective.

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00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where some people have a problem because

598
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: it's slanted that he hates p Diddy. But yeah, I haven't.

599
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it.

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00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mark, you should watch it because yes, fifty hates

601
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 8: Puff and that's not a secret. But the woman that

602
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 8: directed it, she's pretty clear on no, no, no, no, this

603
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 8: can't be a hit piece all of this stuff, like

604
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 8: you got people that were there thirty years ago, like, no, no, no,

605
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 8: this isn't like some type of hit piece. This is

606
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Speaker 8: stuff that he actually did, and there's video to prove it,

607
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 8: and there's like before you know, never before seen footage

608
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 8: and stuff like that. But if you're into it, it's

609
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Speaker 8: four it's four hours, four.

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Speaker 7: Different parts if you want to It's not a great

611
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 7: look for puff uh, it's it is not good at all.

612
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: As if it could get worse, it is, yeah, significantly

613
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Speaker 7: significantly worse. Yeah, And you know, I feel bad. There

614
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 7: were a couple of women who were brave enough to

615
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 7: come forward years and years ago, and nobody would listen

616
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 7: to them that see was a very very powerful person.

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Speaker 7: All right, well, take a break.

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Speaker 2: up with some kind of universal commission to look at

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Speaker 2: the turf. Maybe we do that a decade ago or

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Speaker 2: two decades ago that how about we protect our players?

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Speaker 2: How about we protect our stars. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you announce that there's going to be a study, and

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Speaker 2: you announce it yesterday. The commissioner's job is to help

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Speaker 2: the owners make money, not have the owners spend money

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Speaker 2: that they don't want to spend. It should be incumbent

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Speaker 2: upon the commissioner to ensure that these players have a

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Speaker 2: safe environment. It's not a safe game, but it shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be Hey, how'd you get injured? Non contact injury? Blew

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Speaker 2: out my ACL Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's the players Association to make sure

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Speaker 7: that the players have a safe environment.

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Speaker 2: That is one hundred percent their role owners. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they feel that way at all. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 2: owners own the stadium, correct, and the Players Association is

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Speaker 2: not that strong to be able to stand up to

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Speaker 2: these guys. But yes, when they have a collective bargaining agreement,

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Speaker 2: how about we are part of that study that will

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Speaker 2: help come up with natural turf, aster turf, what is safe?

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Speaker 2: You should be able to come up with a surface

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Speaker 2: that won't hurt players a non contact injury. That's where

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Speaker 2: you want to know. Okay, what exactly what happened on

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Speaker 2: this play? What happened to Micah Parsons one of the

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Speaker 2: best conditioned athletes that you'll find, you know, in any sport.

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Speaker 2: But even go back to soccer, and Seaton said this,

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Speaker 2: when Messi came over, the greatest soccer player in the world, goes,

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Speaker 2: there's certain surfaces I'm not playing on. He didn't want

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Speaker 2: to play on natural turf.

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Speaker 7: Seaton, I think, well, no, I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: European players when they come over don't want to play

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Speaker 7: on artificial turf. Okay, right, because of the injury risk,

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Speaker 7: because they don't have that in the Premier League. No, No,

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Speaker 7: I don't think so, I don't. I'm pretty sure they

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Speaker 7: all play on grass. And I think when the World

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Speaker 7: Cup comes here, all of the stadiums that are hosting

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Speaker 7: those events have to switch to natural grass for that.

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Speaker 7: Oh boy, I think yeah.

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Speaker 6: Pulling Historically the NFL, anytime there's a rash of injuries,

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Speaker 6: remember was it eight? Tom Brady gets hitting the knees.

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Speaker 6: No more hitting quarterbacks in the knees a couple of

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Speaker 6: years ago. The hip drop tackle, no more hip drop.

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Speaker 6: The horse collar, no more horse collar. There's no cost

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Speaker 6: to change those rules, but you change the field to

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Speaker 6: make a universal field the requirement. That's cost for every owner.

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Speaker 6: That's why they didn't do it, which is obvious.

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Speaker 7: Yeah see, and I think you know, like what you

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Speaker 7: had said just a couple of minutes ago, makes sense

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Speaker 7: in a normal environment, why don't we do things to

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Speaker 7: make the game as safe as possible for the players. However,

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Speaker 7: even we say, probably just as recently as yesterday, if

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Speaker 7: the players don't care, why should I care. Well, they

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Speaker 7: don't care about their They don't care about their health,

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Speaker 7: So why should I care about their health? If they

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Speaker 7: don't care about the game being dangerous, why should I

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Speaker 7: care about the game being dangerous?

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Speaker 2: And we're just fans. Imagine having you.

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Speaker 7: Know, hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars

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Speaker 7: into looking at these dudes like I don't care, then

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Speaker 7: get another running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's concussions. That's different than an ACL concussion.

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Speaker 2: You're not out, you know, for a year. ACL. You're

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Speaker 2: out for you know, six to nine months, maybe even

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Speaker 2: twelve months. That's that's the protection part of that. If

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Speaker 2: players are going to play the way they play, like

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Speaker 2: Mark Michael part is not changing the way he played

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Speaker 2: because he blew out his achilles. We're hoping Jackson Dart

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Speaker 2: plays differently because he's been in concussion protocol or have

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Speaker 2: symptoms for five times in ten games.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know that the mindset changes from Well,

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Speaker 7: concussions is different. If they don't care about concussions, then

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Speaker 7: I don't care. But I do care about knee injuries.

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Speaker 7: That's actually really serious. Either you care about making the

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Speaker 7: game safer or you don't really, you know, and I

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Speaker 7: think by and large the mindset seems to be don't

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Speaker 7: really care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jackson Dart is bringing contact. Micah Parsons got

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Speaker 2: hurt and had nothing to do with anybody hitting him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I understand that, but that's the point concussions. You're getting hit.

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Speaker 2: The non contact injury is what concerns me with these

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Speaker 2: playing fields. Yeah, Pauline.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you look at it, you talked about

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Speaker 6: this before. Players would rather get hit in the head

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Speaker 6: than hitting the knee. Well, was it the zach Ertz

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Speaker 6: hit the other day for Washington. His career is likely

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Speaker 6: over and that defensive back flew towards his knee helmet first,

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Speaker 6: and so he is done done. If he went to

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Speaker 6: the head, he's out two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, hines Ward told me that He's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: that's why I grabbed my ankle when I got hit

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Speaker 2: by ray Lewis in the head. I grabbed my ankle

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Speaker 2: because I knew if I my ankle, I can stay

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Speaker 2: in the game. But you get hit in the head.

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Speaker 2: Now you got a concussion. You're out of the game,

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Speaker 2: and you're okay, maybe you're out one or two weeks,

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Speaker 2: but the other injuries. Now these guys are done and

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Speaker 2: it's late in the season, so now that impacts next

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Speaker 2: season for Michael Parsons and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes had his

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Speaker 2: surgery yesterday. Now I was surprised. I didn't know if

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Speaker 2: they had to wait for the swelling to go down.

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Speaker 2: I can only tell you when I had mine done

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Speaker 2: the first time, they had to wait for the swelling

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Speaker 2: to go down. But Mahomes is like, nope, cut me now. Yeah. See.

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Speaker 7: It seems so odd to me though, that like there

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Speaker 7: is that split where you know, how many guys do

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Speaker 7: we know with CTE that are killing people or committing

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Speaker 7: suicide or whatever, And that's the one that is like, Hey,

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Speaker 7: if they don't care, I don't care.

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