1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. We 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: are joined by Senator JD. Vance of Ohio. Senator Vance, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: appreciate you calling in. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, how are you. 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: We're good. We're good. Haven't talked to you in a bit, Jad, 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Let's uh, look, there's a few 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: things we want to get to on the legislative side. 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Visa overstays, the Ukraine accounting amendments, some stuff you're working on. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: But as you know you saw this morning, there's the 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: meeting between Trump attorneys and the special counsel Jack Smith 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: in relation to January sixth. What's your sense of what's 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: happening here and what are your expectations in the days ahead. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think Trump will get indicted for something 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: related to January sixth. It'll be a complete sham. Of course, 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: the entire prosecution is predicated on a false idea of 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: what Trump did on January sixth. He never encouraged any violence, 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: infect the actively encouraged the protesters to stay peaceful. But 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: this is useful for the Biden folks. Politically. I tend 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: to buy the idea that this helps them in the primary, 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: but they're trying to set up this sort of series 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: of facts where the average, you know, pretty low information 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: voter thinks that Donald Trump is a crook and not that, 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: in fact, Joe Biden is a crook and he's using 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: his Department of Justice to go after his political rivals, 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: which is exactly what's happening here. The fact that this 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: comes literally the day after the Hunter Biden plea deal 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: falls apart under just minor investigation by the federal judge. 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: There just a little bit of peeling back the onion 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: and the entire plea deal fell apart, and really I 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: think revealed the corruption of the Department of Justice. Shocking 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: that this prosecution is coming the day after, But it 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: just shows how brazen these guys are. I mean, they 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: know they have the media, they know they have the 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: capacity to tell a story that's totally untrue, so they're 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: just going to shove it down everybody's throat and hope 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: that it works up politically. 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: You went to ye law school, I believe, I'm not mistaken, 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: same law school that Hunter Biden went to. I don't 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: know if you guys overlapped at all. I think he's older, 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: so I don't think that would be the case. But 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: when you look at Hunter Biden's resume. We were talking 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: about this earlier. I went to law school, you know, 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: came out twenty five years old working to try to 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: pay off my loans. Like most people who go to 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: law school, Hunter Biden almost immediately went to work for 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: his dad's top campaign donor, MBNA in house, making hundreds 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. He was making over a million 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: dollars a year of counsel at a big firm. For 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who understand the practice 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: of law, this is crazy and this what they were 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: attempting to ram through yesterday was a protection basically for 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden not only for failing to pay millions of 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: dollars in taxes, but also from any future potential prosecutions 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: that he might face for the bevy of felonies that 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: were embedded in that laptop. And while we are talking 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: about the Hunter Biden clear felonies, they are trying to 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: put Donald Trump in prison for the rest of his life. 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Purely from a legal perspective, again, with your background, have 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: we ever seen anything like this in American legal history, 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: and what do we have to do to clean all 63 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: this up? 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: No, we haven't. And I actually did know Hunter at 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: Yale Law School. He was my crack dealer for all 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: those late nights nights that I was pulling. No, obviously 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: we never crossed baths before, never have. But look, here's 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: the basic issue, what they're doing with Hunter Biden. And 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't really care 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: about the president's son. I care about the president of 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: the United States and what they're doing by effectively giving 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden legal immunity for everything related to the crimes 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: committed over the last few years, as they're effectively saying, 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: we're not going to investigate anymore. So all of the corruption, 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: some of it is almost certainly real, some of it 76 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: we can only guess at. But all of that corruption 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: is going to stay hidden because the Department of Justice 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: is giving this guy get out of jail free. Part. 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: So this isn't about Hunter Biden. This is giving Joe 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: Biden a get out of investigation card in the midst 81 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: of a presidential election while they're simultaneously prosecuting Donald Trump 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: for a couple of different things. Now, I have been 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: really fired up about the Donald Trump the first Jack 84 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: Smith prosecution of Trump overclassified documents, because I think it 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 3: goes to the heart of presidential authority. What they're really saying. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: Everybody admits that Trump could have classified any document that 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: he wanted to, So they're trying to throw him in 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: jail for failing to dot the i's and cross the 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: t's on his own administration's declassification process. That is insane. 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: Even if you grant everything that they say that Donald 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: Trump did, and by the way, I don't, but even 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: if you do, you're trying to throw the guy in 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: prison because he didn't fill out the right paperwork. That's crazy. 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: And to do it in such a politically charged way, 95 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: that's the most bizarre thing, because look, we've seen wrongdoing 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: from the left and from the right over the course 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: of American history. Using your own Department of Justice to 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: go after your political opponent, it really is. It can't 99 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: be said enough Banana Republic stuff. It is intentional election interference. 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: They don't care about whether Donald Trump broke the law. 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: They care about Donald Trump might be able to win 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: reelection as president in twenty twenty four, and they're using 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: I mean, two hundred and thirty years of goodwill about 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: our law and order system. They're destroying it to prevent 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: the wrong guy from winning in twenty twenty four. That's 106 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: all this is about. 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: We're speaking to Senator Vance of Ohio and Senator the 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: visa overstay legislation you're working on. I mean this, I 109 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: see here it would require some immigrants to deposit up 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: to fifteen thousand dollars to prevent overstay. The border is 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: a huge mass, but visa overstays are a big problem too. 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: Tell us about this. 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: So I was sort of shocked at the scale of this. 114 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: Do you have about three million visa overstays. That's three 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: million illegal aliens, people who have no right to be 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: in our country. Verse saying, and we know, of course 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: that the Biden ministration has rap expanded the visa program. 118 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: They give people visas, they say come back, will adjudicate 119 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: your face, you know, and that never happens. Of course, 120 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: a lot of these people disappear in some way. So 121 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: they are all of these different ways in which people 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: overstay their visas. Sometimes they're given legitimate visas to study 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: or so forth, and they just overstay their welcome. What 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: we're basically proposing put a little skin in the game 125 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: so that if they overstay their visa, they lose a 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: lot of resources in the process. It's sort of a 127 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: self enforcement mechanism and it's just, you know, one more 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: tool in the shed we need to enforce our nation's 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: immigration laws. You know, we're really suffering under a global 130 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: cabal of people who don't think that nation should have borders. 131 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: You see it in the visa overstate crisis and Gord, 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: you see in the lack of not just here, but 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: you see it in other countries as well. There's this 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: entire idea that nations should not be able to select 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: to become citizens, and we have to fight back against that. 136 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: And this is one way in which we're trying to 137 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: enforce the tools to fight back against the violation of 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: our borders. 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Senator, I want to go back to what you were 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: just laying out about this attack, and I understand there's 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: lots of other things going on, but I think it 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: goes to the essence of really our ability to have 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: free and fair elections. How do you think Merrick Garland 144 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: sleeps at night as the Attorney General who is in 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: charge of trying to put the chief political adversary of 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: his boss in prison for the rest of his life. 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I think it is a failure of attorney general dumb 148 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: status the likes of which we've never seen in the 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: history of our republic. What do you think is going 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: on there? Is he totally captured? Is he a true believer? 151 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: How did he end up leading a department of justice 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: that would turn its back on all of the history 153 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: of American justice? 154 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: So I have a pet theory on this. You know, 155 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: I have no idea if this is true, but I'll 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: lay out my psychological theory. So Merrick Garland, I met 157 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: him one time and he seemed like a totally reasonable guy. 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Not a guy on the Supreme Court, but a totally 159 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: reasonable guy. This is probably seven or eight years ago. 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: He was nominated to the Supreme Court. His nomination, of course, 161 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: killed by Senate Republicans, as it should have been, and 162 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: it broke them. I think the guy became a full 163 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: bore radical in response to that experience, and he has 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: decided to take it out on the American people. In 165 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: the American system of law and order, I mean, everything 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: gets caught up. Of course, in the twenty twenty four 167 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: presidential politics. But if you walk through the number of cases, 168 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: you know, the Catholic pro life father was arrested like 169 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: a thug in front of his in front of his 170 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: seven children for the crime of peaceably protesting, or the 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: FBI investigations into parents who were protesting at their kids' 172 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: school board meetings. What you see as a pattern of 173 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: a department of justice that really uses the power of 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: the state for political prosecutions. You can't we And this 175 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: is what Mary Carlin is fund with. 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: Senator Vance with us right now from Ohio. I appreciate 177 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: you being with us, sir. What do you think happens 178 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: with the possible Hunter Biden plea deal at this point? 179 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: You know, it's playpoint or out. You went to law school. 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: Where do you think that goes? 181 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think if you really try to what 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: happened yesterday, I think there's a lot of evidence that 183 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: the Hunter Biden, the prosecutors, and the defense attorneys tried 184 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: to pull one over on a judge who was a 185 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: lot smarter than they bet and as soon as she 186 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: started to sort of pull at the threat of that 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: plea deal, everybody realized this was incredible corruption. I don't 188 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: think that she would have accepted the plead, and I 189 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: think she also revealed the way in which they had 190 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: hidden what the implications were, which which again is that 191 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: it's not just Hunter Biden would go free on those charges, 192 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: but that they would not investigate him for anything. And 193 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: that's the fundamental problem here. So where do I think 194 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: this goes, Man? It's tough to say, because they think 195 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: it's clear now this judge is not going to accept 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: the full scale get out a free jail card for 197 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: Hunter and Joe Biden, and so they're going to go 198 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: back to the drawing board. I'm sure they'll propose something 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: out this judge is as good as she appears to be, 200 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: then we may be in a situation where the American 201 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: legal system, while Merrik Carland is putting it under a 202 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: lot of stress, it's actually working the way that it's 203 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: meant to and the boj might have to do his 204 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: shop a little bit. That would be a good thing, 205 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: it would be welcome. I'm not celebrating just yet, but man, 206 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: it was a good sign that just a very very 207 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: minor scrutiny of that deal and the whole thing blew up. 208 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Ukraine, that we heard a lot 209 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: about this counter offensive and how successful it was going 210 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to be on behalf of Ukraine. It certainly has not 211 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: taken off this summer, as I think it's fair to 212 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: say Zelenski and others would have hoped. What should happen 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: in Ukraine from your perspective for the United States position? 214 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: And what do you think is happening going forward? 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think the counter offensive has been in 216 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: a failure. I take no pleasure in saying that, but look, 217 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 3: this has clearly been for about a year now. The 218 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: Russians aren't gaining much ground, the Ukrainians aren't gaining much ground. 219 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: The question for the United States is do we want 220 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: a ten year war of attrition in this region the world? 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: It'll cause worldwide energy crises, it'll cause worldwide food crises, 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: It'll of course kill a lot of innocent people. Do 223 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: we want that on? To leverage the fact that we're 224 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: the main funders of the war on the Ukrainian side, 225 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: use that leverage and bring this thing to a close. 226 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: The idea that the Ukrainians can continue to fight without 227 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: our billions of dollars of support is if we wanted to, 228 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: I think we could bring this war to a close 229 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: very quickly. I think it's a good sign that all 230 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: of the marquee presidential candidates on the Republican side are 231 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: sounding the alarm about our long term investment in Ukraine 232 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: that it has to eventually stop. And what I think 233 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: needs to happen is very simple. President Biden or whoever 234 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: succeeds him, to go to Villainsky and say we've done 235 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: our park, We've done more than enough, we are done 236 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: funding the conflicts. You need to figure out how to 237 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: bring this thing to a close. And I think it 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: would take a month if that happened. 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Choq 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Cchoq thirty five percent off for life today. 267 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: Making sense in an insane world. 268 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 269 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I want 270 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: to encourage all of you to go subscribe to the 271 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast. Tens of millions of downloads coming 272 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: through every single month. We have got a monster audience there. Certainly, 273 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: you can listen to the program every single day on 274 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. But there are lots of unique podcast exclusives. 275 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: Buck's been doing a lot of interviews the variety of 276 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: different newsmakers. You can go listen to those long form interviews. 277 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I did a long form interview with Ron DeSantis in 278 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Nashville earlier this week. There's lots of news that came 279 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: out of that interview, and I wanted to play this 280 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: for all of you out there. You can go listen 281 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: to the full hour if you go to the Clay 282 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. It's an entertaining conversation from baseball cards 283 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: to fauci on COVID, many different angles. I think you 284 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: guys will enjoy that discussion. And again it's only available 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: on podcast at Clay and Buck. But I wanted to 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: put out there this audio clip. I want to get 287 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: your reaction to it. 288 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: Buck. 289 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: I asked DeSantis whether he would consider RFK Junior as 290 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: a vice presidential running mate in the event that he 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: was the nominee. 292 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: This was that answer. 293 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: You know, you need somebody that's going to reflect the 294 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: values of the broad coalition. Yes, the medical stuff, I'm 295 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 5: very good on that, so that does appeal to me. 296 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 5: But there's a whole host of other things that he'd 297 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: probably be out of step with, and so on that regard, 298 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, if your president, you know, sick him 299 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: on the FDA, if he'd be willing to serve or 300 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: sick him on CDC. But in terms of being veep, 301 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: if there's you know, seventy percent of the issues that 302 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: he may be averse to our base on, you know, 303 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: that just creates an issue. 304 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what I've been trying to say here, 305 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: which is that he's still a Democrat everybody. I mean, 306 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: he can be right on some things. He can have 307 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: had an impressive run up to this point and raise 308 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: a lot of important issues, but you know, and maybe 309 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: not at some point though, if he's not a Democrat, 310 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: whise he running as a Democrat? You know what I mean? 311 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: At some point, if everyone's so sure that he's great 312 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: on all the issues, then why isn't he a Republican? 313 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: That's a straight forward, I think his answer, and we 314 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: should have him on again. If we requested that Alley 315 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: to get him on again, because we had him on 316 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: for a while a while back. I think his answer 317 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: would be, I'm sticking to the Democrat Party because my 318 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: family or historic Democrats. I just think the Democrat Party 319 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: is I'm speaking as if I were RFK. I think 320 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: he would say that he thinks the Democrat Party has 321 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: lost its mind, and so he's trying to bring him 322 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: back towards sanity. I mean, but that's if he agrees 323 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: with Republicans on ninety percent of issues. Let's just say 324 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: theoretically turning around to the Democrats and be like, hey, 325 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: you guys are wrong on that. You've become a Republican. 326 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: Whatever his family history may be. I mean, look, I 327 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: voted Democrat when I was younger. Now I vote Republican 328 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: because I agree with Republicans on not every issue, but 329 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: the vast majority of issues out there, as I would 330 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: imagine most of our audience does. And yeah, look, the 331 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: idea of him being in charge of the CDC, I 332 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: kind of love it because it's a slap in the 333 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: face from Rond de Santis to all of the lies 334 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: that we've been told by the CDC and I actually 335 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: think RFK Junior would be better at getting to the 336 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: truth on a lot of these lies that we've been told. 337 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: And it's a consequence, it's a reckoning in some way. Hey, 338 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: you were right on COVID. Let's give you an opportunity 339 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: now to be right about other things. If if he 340 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: gets to be the sledgehammer that gets to be swung 341 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: at the walls of the edifice of the CDC, great, right, 342 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean, so, I think Rond de Santis is the 343 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: thinking totally aligns here, which is when people have a 344 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: particular skill set that they'd be very useful for the 345 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: American people in deploying, deploy that skill set. So left 346 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: wing buck is losing its mind over DeSantis saying this. 347 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: The Democrats are pulling their hair out, which I think 348 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: probably is a sign that it's not awful idea. Yeah, 349 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: that makes it fun just in and of itself. Look, 350 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: practice is the only way you become an expert at 351 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: something that you enjoy doing. For gun owners like me, 352 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: we like our time at the range. Up until recently, 353 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: that was really the only way you could work on 354 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: improving your aim and keeping your skills sharp. 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Let's start off 371 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: right here off the top, Senator, when you look at 372 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: all of the revelations that continue to come out surrounding 373 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, I know that whether or not impeachment should 374 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: exist as a House decision in the first place, But 375 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: have you ever seen anything like the allegations of criminal 376 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: behavior that we've seen from the Biden family in the 377 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: last several months, well, I. 378 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: Have not not in my lifetime, and it continues to 379 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: get worse. Clay, It's just amazing it's been hidden. You know, 380 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: the mainstream media has done this dark country. This should 381 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: have been out a long time ago. You know, the 382 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: laptop came out. Of course they hid that just for 383 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: the election. But I hate the country is getting ready 384 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: to have to go through something that we shouldn't have 385 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: to go through. You know, the leaders at the top 386 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: should be crystal clear in terms of what they've done, 387 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: how they've done. It should be vetted thoroughly before, especially 388 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: when you've run for senator or Congress or President of 389 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: the United States, and there was a lot of cover up. 390 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: And it's just sad for our country. It's sad for 391 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: you know where our media stands as we speak. And 392 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 4: again we're getting ready to go through something that is 393 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: unprecedented in this country, and unfortunately it's going to have 394 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: to be done. 395 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: Senator Tuber will appreciate you being with us. What do 396 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: you think is the proper response? Obviously you don't have 397 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: a majority in the Senate, so Senate power can't help 398 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: very much. But this, this Trump indictment. I know as 399 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: we speak, you haven't seen it yet, you don't know 400 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: exactly what's in it, but it's coming. We all know that. 401 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: What do you think about the fact that we have 402 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: a president who are I'm sorry, a presidential candidate and 403 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: leading presidential candidate right now who's facing multiple criminal indictments 404 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: in an election year. 405 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 4: Well, they've been after him for six seven years and 406 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: most of it has not stuck whatsoever. I'm a big 407 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: Trump fan. I'm a believer even more since I've been 408 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: here for two and a half years. We have to 409 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: have somebody in the White House that believes in our country. Basically, 410 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 4: what we've gotten now, guys, is we've got America versus 411 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 4: anti Americans, and it is just it's gotten simply to 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: that point. It's just true, vanilla. It's people that want 413 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: to change this country. President Trump will be probably being 414 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: indicted maybe one, two or three more times. They cannot 415 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: have him run and win because he threw a wrench 416 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: into their engine last time when he beat Hillary Clinton, 417 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: and they were just going to continue on with Barack 418 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: Obama's complete socialist agendas. So it is again it's just 419 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: I hate it for our country. We're dead broke, with 420 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: thirty two tree in in debt, We've got the animals 421 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: running a zoo up here. Now, we've got some good people, 422 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: I will say that, but we also a lot of 423 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 4: people that want to completely change this country from what 424 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: it is to something else. They don't want to go 425 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: by the constitution. They lie every time they open their mouth. Now, 426 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: this is some people, and they continue to attack people 427 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: that love this country. They attack me every day. But 428 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. I mean, I ran for this 429 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: knowing that I expected to be attacked. But the American 430 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 4: people don't deserve this, and it's just something that unfortunately 431 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 4: we've got to go through it. But we've got to 432 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: get this country back on the right track. We're off 433 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: the rails as we speak, and we've got huge problems 434 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: being broke. We're on the cusps of a major World 435 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: War three. And then if you just look at the 436 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: things going within our country, we don't have control. There's 437 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: no security in our country. People don't feel safe. We've 438 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: got to get back to the country that we all 439 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: know and love that's been with us for two hundred 440 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: and forty seven years. And go by the dang constitution 441 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: and quit breaking it. Every day. 442 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama. We're number 443 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: one in Birmingham. We appreciate everybody listening down there. 444 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 445 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: And you are working right now with Joe Manchin on Name, 446 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: image and likeness legislation. This would impact how all college 447 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: athletes are able to be compensated. Before I get into that, Uh, 448 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin, do you think, based on your relationship with him, 449 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: that he's going to run for president? Do you think 450 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: he's going to run for governor back to try to 451 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: run for the Senate? What do you think he's going 452 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: to do next year? 453 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: I asked him every day. I can't get it out 454 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 4: of him. Uh. I think he really feels like he's 455 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: done his service in the Senate. I would not be 456 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: shocked if he doesn't run for the No League or 457 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: no Name party, whatever they're calling it. 458 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 459 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 4: Joe's a good person, He's a good American. He believes 460 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: in the country, he believes in the Constitution. But uh, 461 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: you know, you just don't know where these people are 462 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: going to go up here. It's a it's a different world. 463 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta you got to pick a direction 464 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: and a road which you think you can help the most. 465 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: Joe's done some good up here. He's done some good 466 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: since he's been here. He's been in politics a long time. 467 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: But he's getting to the point where it might be 468 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: time to go play off and run around with the 469 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: grandkids or do something else. But again you'll have to 470 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: ask him that question. 471 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: All right, So you have been a head football coach, 472 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: I believe at Ole Miss, at Auburn, at Texas Tech, 473 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati I remember off the top of my head. 474 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: INIL. 475 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: For people out there who don't know, individual college athletes 476 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: are now able to make money off of their name, image, 477 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: and likeness, which is the acronym in IL. As a result, 478 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: there are a lot of different state laws. There's a 479 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: different law in California than there might be in Florida, 480 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: than New York, in Alabama, all these different places. What 481 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: are you guys trying to do succinctly for people out 482 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: there that would federalize in some way one overarching rule 483 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: I believe, as it would pertain to nil. 484 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 4: You're exactly right. Play. First of all, we want save 485 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: college sports because it's what people love in our country 486 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: and it's something that has not been corrupted, so to speak. 487 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: First of all, I'd like to say this, I spent 488 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: forty years in it. I understand it understand that these athletes, 489 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: men and women, do a great service. But it's also 490 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 4: they are well rewarded for what they do in terms 491 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: of scholarship money given from the schools. They already make 492 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: some money. But I'm not against athletes making more money. 493 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: I'm for that if they deserve it. What we want 494 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: to do, Joe Manchin, we set out over a year 495 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: ago to say, okay, let's help the situation. Now, this 496 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: is not Joe Mansion's bill, this is not Coach Turberville's bill. 497 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: This bill that we have written has come from working 498 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 4: with athletic directors, presidents, NCAA, coaches, players, all people involved, 499 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: and it has evolved very many times. We've written it up, 500 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: we've started over, we've done other things. Actually, we had 501 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: a bill done about a month ago. Then we had 502 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: an influx of coaches coming from all over the country, 503 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: all conferences, and we told them, go to your congressman, 504 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: go to your senator, give them advice of what you 505 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: think it needs to be done, and if we need 506 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: to change this bill, let's do it, and we did. 507 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: There were some good things that they brought to us, 508 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: and so we changed it again. We feel like we've 509 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: got the best bill now. Not to go overboard on 510 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 4: the rules. Now. I can remember the day back when 511 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: I was coaching the NCUBA rule book on recruiting. We 512 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 4: look like a serious catalog. I mean the thing was 513 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 4: three or four inches thick. We do not need that. 514 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: We need basic rules coming from the federal government. And 515 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: then after that, if we can get this passed, let 516 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 4: the NCAA and the people involved add to that how 517 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: they want. But what we want to do is make 518 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: sure all fifty states go with the same basic rules. 519 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: And right now we've got the wild wild West going 520 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: on and we have to get control. There are two 521 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: things I wanted to make sure we did. Number One, 522 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: get money out of recruiting. The NIO from the Supreme 523 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: Court had nothing to do with recruiting money and kids 524 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: to universities. Nil says you can make money off your name, 525 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 4: image and likeness once you get to the school, and 526 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: then if you're do that, fine, go out and make 527 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 4: as much money as you want. We have to put 528 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: education and the student athlete first. Money needs to come third, 529 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: and if we don't go in that order, we're going 530 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: to lose it. We're going to lose women's sports, We're 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 4: going to lose Olympic sports. Football will survive, Basketball survive, 532 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: but the other sports are going to have a hard 533 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 4: time making it because they're not going to have any 534 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: funds to make it. 535 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: Senator Chupperville, what do you think the role of the 536 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: federal government should be of the legislative branch obviously House 537 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: the Senate in dealing with the gender in sports issue 538 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: that has been created by the left in recent years, 539 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: where you have biological males compete against females. Do you 540 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: think that there's a legislative role that needs to be 541 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: adopted here. 542 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: Well, they're having hearings on it today in the House. 543 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: It's a shame we have to even approach this or 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: even think about this idea of a biological boy or 545 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 4: a man participating in women's sports. It makes no sense. 546 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 4: It's not fair, it's not safe, and it's downright wrong, 547 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: and we've lost all common sense when it comes to that. 548 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: You've got athletes, women athletes. Now they're one that's getting 549 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: ready to retire, that's playing in this women's soccer league 550 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: right now, and she's all four boys playing women's sports 551 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: only for the fact that she's retiring. Had they been 552 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: able to play when she was in it, should be 553 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: working at a grocery store or something. I mean, these 554 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: biological boys and men will take over women's sports if 555 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: allowed to do that, We're going to fight at tooth 556 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: and nail. We need women's sports, we need men's sports. 557 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: They need to be separate again. It is not safe 558 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: to let them participate against each other. And we want 559 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 4: to make sure we give women and young girls the 560 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: opportunities the same opportunity that Tyler nine gives them as 561 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: of boys. 562 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: The Senator as we roll into college football season, I'm 563 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: just curious how much college football talk is there in 564 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: the Senate, Like, leave aside politics. I bet Joe Manchin, 565 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a big West Virginia Mountaineer fan. Leaving 566 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: aside the fact Democrat, Republic and everything else, how much 567 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: college football? How much sports talk in general is there 568 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: in the Senate when you guys take a break from 569 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: the political realm of the day. 570 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: Oh, there's quite a bit. You'd be amazed at the 571 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: college sports much more than professional sports because everybody obviously 572 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: is from there. They have their home state or where 573 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 4: they went to school, they had to campaign, they have 574 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: to know a lot about sports at the universities all 575 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: not just one or two univers but all the universities 576 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: in their states. So yeah, we we have a lot 577 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: of conversation about about all the sports. And again there's 578 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk about this transgender movement. And 579 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: I haven't heard many people that's even we would even 580 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: consider this on the Republican side. Now on the Democratic side, 581 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: they fall in in line like like ducks walking behind 582 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: each other. That I know most of them don't believe 583 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: in it because they got daughters or granddaughters that don't 584 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: want this to happen to them, but they let politics 585 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 4: get involved. And if we don't get politics out of this, 586 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: out of sports and this transgender movement, and we're gonna 587 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: have huge problems, very important problems that I don't know 588 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: whether we can solve them down the road. But yes, 589 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: we do have quite a bit of talk about sports 590 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: on the Senate floor, in the cloak room and in 591 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: our hearing rooms. 592 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, Senator Trouberville, appreciate you being with us, or thanks 593 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: very much, Thank you. Organizations doing great eight work should 594 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: be supported, particularly those working on a nonprofit basis. 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But 626 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: download that app and then make sure you type in 627 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck or probably just Clay or Buck and 628 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: our show will pop up and then you can subscribe 629 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: to it. And that way you'll get additional stuff like 630 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: we have in the podcast stream, including the Tutor Dixon Show, 631 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: long form interviews. Clay. You put your long form sit 632 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: down with Ron DeSantis in there too, right, So a 633 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: lot of stuff that you're not necessarily going to even 634 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: hear on radios on the Clay en Buck podcast stream. Clay, 635 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, usually this part of the summer 636 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: in late July, going into a primary that's you know, 637 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: six months away, things start to settle down. I really 638 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: mean this. I think we're heading into the and it's 639 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: you know, honor to be with you and the team 640 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: and all of our listeners as we do this. I 641 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: think this is going to be the craziest presidential election 642 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: any of us have ever seen. I really mean that. 643 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 2: I know it seems early, but I just think this 644 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: is going to be bonkers. 645 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: Well, we're in uncharted and unprecedented waters in many respects. 646 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday's show with the Hunter Biden supposed plea 647 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: agreement that fell apart, was a show that has never 648 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: been done. Like, we've never seen anything like that. And 649 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: when you contemplate that President Trump is going to be 650 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: standing trial, we know, unless something changes in terms of 651 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: the schedule on May twentieth of twenty twenty four, for 652 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks facing felony charges in South Florida, 653 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: all of the other legal ramifications continue to play out 654 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: in terms of what the charges will be, when those 655 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: cases would be developed, when there might be people's standing trial. 656 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like it. And that's presuming Buck. 657 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: This is what's wild. That's presuming that two guys, I mean, 658 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Trump is seventy seven, Biden will soon be eighty one. 659 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: That's presuming that two guys who basically have outlived the 660 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: average lifespan. We saw, unfortunately what happened yesterday with Mitch McConnell, 661 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: where he just kind of froze. That's presuming that these 662 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: older people who are in such positions of power in 663 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: our federal government are still able to are still able 664 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: to be there, right. I mean, it wouldn't I hate 665 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: to mention it, but it wouldn't stun anybody if suddenly 666 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: Joe Biden had some sort of physical health condition. I 667 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: think he seems to be in far worse shape than Trump. 668 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: But we know it's going to be crazy and buck 669 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: that's without any of the additional crazy that we can't 670 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: even predict potentially getting all rolled in as well. 671 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: I just think that we've got to pace ourselves. One 672 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: thing we're going to do here on the show not 673 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: going to get too far ahead of things, as we 674 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: saw yesterday with the Hunter situation. The story can change 675 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: minute to minute, and it can have national implications, whether 676 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: it's involving the Biden camp or situation of Trump, or 677 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: any of the other candidates out there. You know, I'm 678 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: hearing a lot of people that are talking about the 679 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: really incredible rise that Vivek has had so far. You know, 680 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 2: we had him on the show recently. He's doing super well. 681 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: And when I stually doing well, it's not even just 682 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: about who's going to be the president. There is a 683 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: component of this. I've always said this about Senator Rampaul 684 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: when he's run in the past. There are some people 685 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: you just want in the conversation because people need to 686 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: hear it. And you know, I think that's true of 687 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: a Vake. I think you'd say that's true of RFK 688 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: Junior right now too, on a lot of issues. 689 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about RFK Junior earlier in the show, 690 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: with Ron DeSantis saying he would consider him for CDC 691 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: or for FDA. Yes, we just talked about that with 692 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: RFK Junior, whether that DeSantis would consider him as the 693 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: head of the FDA or the CDC. And so there's 694 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. Nobody really knows what's going 695 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: to happen. Buck Hey, Milwaukee, Save the date, Tuesday, August 696 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: twenty second, at eight pm, Join Me and News Talk 697 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: eleven thirty Win hosts Dan O'Donnell for a little pregame 698 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: huddle at the Paps Theater. It's the eve of the 699 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: first GOP primary debate, and we're going to talk strategy 700 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: and lay out a game plan on how the Republican 701 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Party can win the next election. Get your tickets at 702 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: clayanbuck dot com. Each ticket comes with my new book, 703 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: American Playbook, the most important book you'll read this year. 704 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see y'all in Milwaukee. 705 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for rolling with us, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.