Speaker 1: It's time for the b a qk A the b
Speaker 1: a q A, which is saying the b a q
Speaker 1: A with Tiffin A, the b a q A with Mandy,
Speaker 1: the b a qa A prohibition question and answer. You
Speaker 1: have questions, we have answers written reason because we're not
Speaker 1: your financial advisor, we're not your attorney, but we are
Speaker 1: your smart financial girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Okay, and the internet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some smart ladies on the Internet.
Speaker 1: I'm excited because Mandra has an update for so maybe
Speaker 1: Manda paint.
Speaker 2: The scene for like it's an update for what.
Speaker 4: I love a good sequel. So if you guys have
Speaker 4: been following. A few weeks back, we got a question
Speaker 4: from a listener named Kevin. First of all, Kevin, shout
Speaker 4: out to you because you know, not our target audience,
Speaker 4: but we love you for listening. He had such an
Speaker 4: interesting question, he he He sent us a message saying
Speaker 4: basically that his wife was not going up for promotion
Speaker 4: at work and he was trying to encourage her to
Speaker 4: do so. He wanted her to be and this was
Speaker 4: a kicker. He wanted her to be a good role
Speaker 4: model for their daughter and basically show their daughter that
Speaker 4: she could be a leader and I don't know Tip
Speaker 4: if you remember our responses, but I know the one
Speaker 4: thing I remember, and what Kevin has pointed out here
Speaker 4: in his follow up is I was like, way, way, way, Mint, Kevin,
Speaker 4: you think you know what's best for your wife. But
Speaker 4: your wife because she doesn't want to go for this promotion.
Speaker 4: It may not mean that she's not ambitious. It just
Speaker 4: may mean that, like she has identified this as not
Speaker 4: the place you know, I want to be stepping up,
Speaker 4: like they may not support me, etc. What else about Kevin?
Speaker 4: So anyway, it's been weeks. That was one of our
Speaker 4: more popular, one of our most popular baq and a's ever,
Speaker 4: And we have been waiting Kevin for your bids with
Speaker 4: Vaden Breast. So let's get into it. He has, Oh, Kevin,
Speaker 4: all right, let me read this to you. Greetings ladies,
Speaker 4: I just want to say thank you for taking my question. First,
Speaker 4: let me thank you for pointing out how my words
Speaker 4: related to my wife setting an example for our daughter
Speaker 4: could be misconstrued. Let me say that my wife is
Speaker 4: an outstanding role model to our daughter. I was talking
Speaker 4: in terms of negotiating for higher wages and getting promoted.
Speaker 4: But I see how someone could read that differently, my
Speaker 4: wife loves our kids beyond measure, and that's the best
Speaker 4: possible example. Also, she's he's digging himself out of all
Speaker 4: She's gorgeous, kind forgiving a gift from God, and ten
Speaker 4: times smarter than me.
Speaker 2: That Sorry, it took.
Speaker 4: Someone for the update, but your advice opened up some
Speaker 4: really good dialogue. I have to admit I wrote my
Speaker 4: question hoping you would give me some tricks to convince
Speaker 4: my wife to just go for it. But what happened
Speaker 4: was the exact opposite. After listening to the podcast, it
Speaker 4: was as if everything my wife had been telling me
Speaker 4: shifted and my whole perspective changed. Through our conversation, I
Speaker 4: realized that the fear I thought I saw was just
Speaker 4: my wife not feeling she was in an environment that
Speaker 4: would nurture and support her. I wouldn't call her environment
Speaker 4: toxic because she likes her job and her coworkers. After
Speaker 4: re listening to her, I realized she doesn't feel like
Speaker 4: the current leadership at her job can provide enough support
Speaker 4: and guidance for someone stepping into a brand new leadership position.
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin, you're halfway out of the hole that
Speaker 4: you've dug. But it gets better. TIF Are you ready?
Speaker 4: Listening to the podcast, I realized that I was falling
Speaker 4: into that trap where I knew what was best for her,
Speaker 4: and like you said, she's one of those people who
Speaker 4: knows when to say enough. I am now focusing on
Speaker 4: just shutting up and listening and letting her tell me
Speaker 4: what she wants, which honestly, she's been doing the whole time.
Speaker 4: When I took a minute to stop and think about it,
Speaker 4: I wrote into the podcast looking to help her, but
Speaker 4: all along I was the one who needed help. At
Speaker 4: this point, I don't believe that he's writing this, I
Speaker 4: think is why it's writing this point. Oh, I can't
Speaker 4: why because I just want all the husbands out there
Speaker 4: to just listen.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I like to think of myself as supportive, but sometimes
Speaker 4: my ambition to be this power couple clouds my judgment.
Speaker 4: I have to start realizing that our power as a
Speaker 4: couple isn't tied up in our titles or how much
Speaker 4: money we make, but in the fact that we are
Speaker 4: a loving black couple that's been together for twenty five years,
Speaker 4: love it. We have raised three awesome children, and we
Speaker 4: love ours. We love each other now more than ever,
Speaker 4: thank you for the advice. I don't think this email
Speaker 4: can truly express how transformative your advice was. I'm a
Speaker 4: better husband now because of the advice you gave me.
Speaker 2: Your biggest fan, Kevin Kevin.
Speaker 1: First of all, Kevin's wife was standing over her shoulders
Speaker 1: say and say and write that, Yeah, the beautiful party,
Speaker 1: beautiful smarter than me.
Speaker 3: keV was like, like, let me reread it.
Speaker 1: She said, you know, let me make some edits because
Speaker 1: you over here not really fully express it. First of all, Kevin,
Speaker 1: we stand a husband that wants to do and be better,
Speaker 1: So let's fee around arose for that.
Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
Speaker 1: The fact that you the fact is you you reached
Speaker 1: out to ask for help, but we're open when the
Speaker 1: feedback didn't align with what you expected, which speaks volumes
Speaker 1: about you and your character.
Speaker 2: So you know, your wife is not the only You
Speaker 2: are not.
Speaker 1: The only lucky one. You know, she is fortunate to
Speaker 1: have you as well. And I just love the fact
Speaker 1: that I suspected she was already telling you. But oftentimes
Speaker 1: we don't hear our significant other until someone else said
Speaker 1: something similar.
Speaker 2: So I love the.
Speaker 1: Fact that you were like, wait, she has said that
Speaker 1: and like, literally, Mandy, it's like what you said that
Speaker 1: she was like you were like, I mean, she sounds
Speaker 1: ambitious and amazing. Maybe she just looking around and was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, you're not gonna have me up here looking
Speaker 1: like how you looking up here without support and free falling.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: So I love the fact that that's what it was,
Speaker 1: and that you figured out that's what it was, and
Speaker 1: so like, I'm just honestly, I'm just this is like
Speaker 1: my favorite baqa moment if I do say.
Speaker 2: So myself, and I I think.
Speaker 4: I would join you in that. Yes, so warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 4: And this is why you've been married for twenty five years, Kevin.
Speaker 4: We were never worried for you twenty five years. This
Speaker 4: is how a man, This is how every couple should handle,
Speaker 4: you know. Maybe don't you know, send questions to podcasters.
Speaker 4: That's part of that fundamental you know process. But in
Speaker 4: this case, it worked out, and I'm so glad that
Speaker 4: it helped you better understand where your wife was coming from.
Speaker 4: And this is the thing. I don't think I would
Speaker 4: have been able to even think of this question and
Speaker 4: this response in this way had I not spent the
Speaker 4: past year talking to hundreds of black and brown women
Speaker 4: who are feeling just like your wife, and it opened
Speaker 4: my eyes up to this notion that oh, we're just
Speaker 4: not you know, we're not earning more because we're not
Speaker 4: ambitious enough. We're not going for the leadership roles because
Speaker 4: we don't think that, you know, we would be good enough,
Speaker 4: or we have imposter syndrome and all that bullshit, when
Speaker 4: really it's like, so what are the organizations doing to
Speaker 4: make us feel like we would succeed in that role?
Speaker 4: And like what supports and resources are they giving us
Speaker 4: so that we can thrive? So I'm just yes, big
Speaker 4: fuzzy yes, over the moon with this response. I hope
Speaker 4: you guys just have a beautiful date night and laugh
Speaker 4: about this. Kevin, we're your biggest fans too, I would say,
Speaker 4: Oh and I forgot the ps ps. He says, Tiffany,
Speaker 4: I'm still putting your book on the prime spot at
Speaker 4: every bookstore I go to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Okay, gegging with money, still out here
Speaker 1: doing this thing. And just like, we just want to
Speaker 1: shout out to Kevin's wife, who clearly reread this was
Speaker 1: like and again because you was reckless at first, were
Speaker 1: like Kev's wife. Girl, you got to stuff a good one.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 1: You got him all the way together, Like Okay, I
Speaker 1: could just see him being like, I want to play
Speaker 1: with the ladies. Head said, I wonder if he played
Speaker 1: it for her. She was like, that's what I've been
Speaker 1: trying to tell.
Speaker 3: You with love.
Speaker 1: So let's move on to some other people's lives that
Speaker 1: we need to be saving. You know that, Oh yes,
Speaker 1: because we are here.
Speaker 3: Just it.
Speaker 4: No pressure, no pressure.
Speaker 1: We've got a message from Casandra not their real name,
Speaker 1: but that's okay. We love Bake, Hi, Tiffany, and Mandy. First,
Speaker 1: can I just say how much I admire both of you.
Speaker 1: I grew up in a household where we live paycheck
Speaker 1: to paycheck and never talked about money, so your podcast
Speaker 1: is bridging that gap. Thank you, you welcome girl. My
Speaker 1: question is about navigating the option between public and private
Speaker 1: work and pay. I'm a lawyer, okay, girl, smart, who
Speaker 1: recently graduated, and I am currently deciding between accepting a
Speaker 1: job in the public sector nonprofit or government or the
Speaker 1: private sector law firm. My heart isn't doing public interest law,
Speaker 1: but the salary gap is huge. If I went the
Speaker 1: public interest route, I would be making anywhere from fifty
Speaker 1: to sixty five thousand dollars. While at a law firm,
Speaker 1: I would make two hundred and fifteen thousand starting and
Speaker 1: be given oh wow, and be given an eighty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars bonus. I have interviewed at law firms and this
Speaker 1: is what they've offered. To top it off, I'm the
Speaker 1: sole breadwinner. Oh my husband is a recent immigrant and
Speaker 1: a full time student, and I have a two year
Speaker 1: old daughter. I won't say her name because I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that's saying her name. How do you suggest I approach
Speaker 1: this choice? I feel like doing what I love is
Speaker 1: completely out of the question because of the salary gap
Speaker 1: if I go the private route. How do I deal
Speaker 1: with the guild that comes from working for companies instead
Speaker 1: of doing the work for the greater good?
Speaker 2: What say you, Mandra?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, Cassandra, I mean I, first of all, I feel
Speaker 4: like you're so not alone in this predicament and the
Speaker 4: thing that I want you to like what I can
Speaker 4: tell that you're you're putting so much pressure on yourself,
Speaker 4: as if this is the only career choice you're ever
Speaker 4: going to make. You know, the facts are you can
Speaker 4: get a really nice salary, and you can still do
Speaker 4: good work working for a private firm. You can be
Speaker 4: choosy about which firm you do. You can choose a
Speaker 4: firm that gives you I've had coaching clients who've you know,
Speaker 4: had pro bono cases that they can take or the
Speaker 4: firm commits some percentage of their hours to pro bono work.
Speaker 4: Think about what you how much, how much you would
Speaker 4: be able to do with those additional resources for your family,
Speaker 4: and then also potentially you could maybe give away some
Speaker 4: of your knowledge yourself, like volunteering for a nonprofit or
Speaker 4: volunteering for an organization or for people that you may
Speaker 4: want to help. You can still do that, you know.
Speaker 4: So I don't think you should feel guilty at all
Speaker 4: for accepting, of really accepting what you're worth. You know,
Speaker 4: from a private firm. You're a breadwinner. Everyone's circumstances are different, right,
Speaker 4: You're in a situation where you don't have all the
Speaker 4: options in the world to just take a job for
Speaker 4: the love of it. Like, you have a family to support,
Speaker 4: a husband who you said recently immigrated and maybe trying
Speaker 4: to establish his career, so like you can take on
Speaker 4: that role as breadwinner yeah, for now, and then you
Speaker 4: could do it for a few years, a couple of years,
Speaker 4: one year, whatever, and then if you decide to change
Speaker 4: and it's not right for you, make that change at
Speaker 4: that time, you know. So I feel like people just
Speaker 4: put a lot of pressure on one choice, as if
Speaker 4: I'm going to make this choice and this is who
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the rest of my life, when
Speaker 4: that's not always the case. It's rarely the case.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, Cassandra, because I struggle with this.
Speaker 1: When I first started the Budgetnista, my intention was to
Speaker 1: make it a nonprofit organization because I wanted to be
Speaker 1: of service and I thought that's the best way I'm
Speaker 1: going to give, you know, I'll find some funding and
Speaker 1: to give my services a way for free. But it
Speaker 1: just wasn't the right fit because for some reason, I
Speaker 1: had decided that if you're going to do good work,
Speaker 1: you have to be like a financial martyr, you know,
Speaker 1: and I had done that being a preschool teacher. I
Speaker 1: really didn't make much, but you know, it was just me.
Speaker 1: I didn't have children, I wasn't married when I was
Speaker 1: in my twenties, and so you know, I made less
Speaker 1: and I don't regret that, but I realized with the budget, Nissa,
Speaker 1: that you can do both. That it is a business
Speaker 1: that gives ways so much information for free. And then
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, I figured out ways to
Speaker 1: monetize in ways that are still in alignment with my integrity.
Speaker 2: So to Mandy's point, like there are organizations.
Speaker 1: That you could donate your time and energy to, like
Speaker 1: I know, for example, in Newark, there is a like
Speaker 1: a like a group of lawyers that, like you know,
Speaker 1: every Tuesday you can kind of go to some office
Speaker 1: and ask all these different questions of them and they
Speaker 1: give that time away for free to the residents of
Speaker 1: newer you know. And so there are things you can
Speaker 1: still do that gives your time and with those financial funds,
Speaker 1: you are able to if your husband is an immigram,
Speaker 1: one thing I know for one thing for certain two
Speaker 1: things for sure, people who you know, immigrants give money
Speaker 1: back home, right, And so I look at my parents
Speaker 1: and how many people that they've helped while being here
Speaker 1: and how we continue that legacy. And so you being
Speaker 1: married to your husband, it opens up I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what your background is, but it opens up your opportunity
Speaker 1: to also help family members you know, potentially financially because
Speaker 1: if you know, with that salary, which is incredible, plus
Speaker 1: that bonus, which is super incredible, I can imagine how
Speaker 1: hard you must have worked with a two year old.
Speaker 2: That means you were pregnant while you were in law school.
Speaker 1: Girl, you know you that's your Yeah, so girl, you're
Speaker 1: just you're rock starring it. You don't have to take
Speaker 1: less in order to prove that you care about people work.
Speaker 1: Walking with integrity is not about taking less. It's just
Speaker 1: about your day to day actions, and there are other
Speaker 1: ways to do that without without sacrificing your family's financial future.
Speaker 1: So congratulations, Cassago. We are proud of you over here
Speaker 1: at the ba of the QA and continue soaring. I
Speaker 1: have to see the decision is yours. But no, if
Speaker 1: you needed that permission, that's what she was asking for.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 1: Two brown girls were saying, get your money, honey, commissions up.
Speaker 4: Grunted, Yeah, Gunted. I love that those private firms need
Speaker 4: more women of color too. I just feel like, yes,
Speaker 4: when you find the right fit, you'll be making a
Speaker 4: huge impact no matter where you go. And I mean,
Speaker 4: this is just the privilege of not having This is
Speaker 4: the privilege that you can be building for your daughter
Speaker 4: to maybe one day make a choice for whatever she
Speaker 4: wants to do, just based on passion, because you're because you,
Speaker 4: you know, starting off this new generation of wealth building,
Speaker 4: like you're doing, like you've made that possible for her.
Speaker 4: That's what I feel like I'm doing every day. Just
Speaker 4: given Rio. Rio can just go be a poet.
Speaker 2: I love that baby.
Speaker 4: Just go be a go be an artist, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to be. Oh man, All right, well I should
Speaker 4: we take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 4: with a really good question from somebod who wants to
Speaker 4: go by ag girl. I want to find out why.
Speaker 4: See y'all right back here with more of your ba
Speaker 4: q and a's l right, ba fan, we are back
Speaker 4: with your question. Did you catch how I said holy shirt, Tiffany?
Speaker 4: Because I almost died when I said holy shirt. This
Speaker 4: is when you know Rio is now responding to and
Speaker 4: repeating everything I say.
Speaker 3: I was like, Manna, you cuss a little, and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, no more.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: The other day I used and I did not say
Speaker 4: holy shirt, and he repeated that all the way to daycare.
Speaker 3: O God, I said, oopsie.
Speaker 4: Anyway to our question, this comes from a listener who'd
Speaker 4: like to go by ag girl, she or he says,
Speaker 4: I am well she she says, I am a new
Speaker 4: graduate and I landed an amazing job in my field
Speaker 4: of my in the field of my dreams, with great benefits.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, how do you balance illustrating your oprah as
Speaker 4: a new employee while still having a good work life balance.
Speaker 4: You all stress not to overwork yourself, but I feel
Speaker 4: like this is what I need to do to get noticed.
Speaker 4: Can you provide some advice on illustrating your oprah as
Speaker 4: a new graduate but not overworking ourselves to get noticed?
Speaker 4: Excellent question that girl first.
Speaker 1: For I guess so just for the fose of you
Speaker 1: who are listening who might not know what illustrating your
Speaker 1: oprah is. Honestly, it's just this term that I came
Speaker 1: up with where I was like, because when I first started,
Speaker 1: the budget needs to no one would like let me speak,
Speaker 1: not even for free, let.
Speaker 2: Alone pay me.
Speaker 1: And I remember at first I was I used to
Speaker 1: just tell myself, oh, that's because they don't have the budget.
Speaker 2: They don't have money.
Speaker 1: And then one day someone who had told me no
Speaker 1: told someone else yes, like they told me no for
Speaker 1: the free thing and paid them like two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the hell? And I realized, like,
Speaker 1: they do have the money, They're just not giving it
Speaker 1: to me. Hey why, as I thought, and I remember
Speaker 1: distinctly thinking, I bet if I was Oprah, they would
Speaker 1: pay me. And then something in me it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you were Oprah, they would pay you because Oprah
Speaker 1: clearly illustrates her value. And I was like, oh, it
Speaker 1: was a read for filth internally, so I realized that, like,
Speaker 1: somehow I have to showcase my value so undeniably that
Speaker 1: they pay me as quickly like they would pay Oprah,
Speaker 1: you know, And still to this day, I still work
Speaker 1: on that. So just so you guys know, that's where
Speaker 1: illustrating your Oprah comes from. Okay, So, at girl, you
Speaker 1: are right in that there are not all time is
Speaker 1: created equally, right, So there are going to be times
Speaker 1: when you're going to be working more than others and
Speaker 1: leading in more to others.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in balance.
Speaker 1: I believe in what I call harmony, So balance all
Speaker 1: things at equal measure. Same, you know, like alone time
Speaker 1: at home, you know, time with their girls is the
Speaker 1: same time with your partner time at work. Now, ain't
Speaker 1: no such thing as balance to keep all of those
Speaker 1: things equally weighted.
Speaker 2: Instead, there's harmony.
Speaker 1: You ever listened to a song, Sometimes the pranos are
Speaker 1: the sopranos are dominating.
Speaker 2: They're a little louder.
Speaker 1: So sometimes work is a little louder, and sometimes here
Speaker 1: comes the baritones.
Speaker 2: They dominate.
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's like, you know, partner time, Like
Speaker 1: that's what's dominant this weekend, and so it is okay
Speaker 1: to fluctuate in and out of. Like you know, it's
Speaker 1: like when you first start a business, same thing, you're
Speaker 1: going to have to lean in and work harder than
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. Like I don't work nearly as
Speaker 1: hard from when I first started the budget easte, but
Speaker 1: when I launched something new, I knew, I know that
Speaker 1: it's going to require more of me than when I'm
Speaker 1: already coasting through doing that thing for a number of years.
Speaker 1: So I don't want you to think that you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to work hard, But overwork just means if you
Speaker 1: are exhausted and spent and you're just like sick of it,
Speaker 1: then you know you have pushed yourself too hard. The
Speaker 1: sopranos are doing too much. They need to sit down
Speaker 1: and let the altos sing a little song.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so that's what it looks like. I'll give you
Speaker 1: an example of someone on my team who's done them.
Speaker 2: Her name is Logan. Shout to Logan. She's amazing.
Speaker 1: So when Logan first came to me, Logan was the
Speaker 1: She worked in customer support on the literature Academy side
Speaker 1: of my business, so that's my online school, and Logan
Speaker 1: was in customer support, you know, just literally making a
Speaker 1: few bucks an hour. She was so good and she
Speaker 1: created like a system for us to answer customer support
Speaker 1: more succinctly that I made her the customer support manager,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And Logan is someone who's always reading.
Speaker 1: A book, taking a course, taking a class, so she
Speaker 1: got to be so good the customer support manager in
Speaker 1: that she trained everyone, and so we could literally satisfy
Speaker 1: thirty thousand people in our academy with like three or
Speaker 1: four people on customer support.
Speaker 2: I was so impressed.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you actually want to do, Logan?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I really love researching. I love how
Speaker 1: you write your copy, tiftany I want to learn how
Speaker 1: to copyright, I said, bet So I started to teach
Speaker 1: her how to copyright, and she got so good. So
Speaker 1: it took me her maybe six months to like eight
Speaker 1: months to like kind of shadow me and like copywriting.
Speaker 1: And then I let her take it on on her
Speaker 1: own and just I would just review everything she wrote.
Speaker 1: And by a year's time, Logan was just as good
Speaker 1: as a copywriter. And now she's even better and to
Speaker 1: the point now where then I promoted her to contact manager.
Speaker 1: So she writes all my emails, she does all my
Speaker 1: social media posts.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean. But you see the how.
Speaker 1: Logan illustrated her oprah was she didn't just do her
Speaker 1: job well, she prepared for what the next level might
Speaker 1: look like by learning something new. And so when after
Speaker 1: my husband passed away, I could not support the fifteen
Speaker 1: people I had on the team at Badjanista. It just
Speaker 1: was too much. But I let go of everybody except
Speaker 1: for my admin and Logan. Why because her value was
Speaker 1: so illustrated. I was like, yo, if I can't let
Speaker 1: a logan, I need Logan.
Speaker 2: Right because she illustrated her value so much.
Speaker 1: So like if I talk to Logan now, ask her,
Speaker 1: what do you doing right now, she's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: taking this Instagram course so I can learn how to like,
Speaker 1: you know, to get her Instagram like poppin' Oh I
Speaker 1: took this course on Pinterest. Because that's Logan, always stretching
Speaker 1: to learn, to grow, to add new skill sets to
Speaker 1: her to her toolkit. You she illustrates her OPRAH so
Speaker 1: so succinctly and so powerfully that even if I would
Speaker 1: have let go lower, there are people now squatting on
Speaker 1: you still work with Logan. Okay it Logan available, Like
Speaker 1: Logan would have no problem replacing me with another job
Speaker 1: because she's just so valuable. So that's what illustrating your
Speaker 1: OPRAH looks like in real time. And also, you know,
Speaker 1: creating harmony with working hard when you need to work
Speaker 1: hard and pulling back when you need to pull back.
Speaker 4: I love when you talk about that Logan story. It's
Speaker 4: a great example of well. I also think it's a
Speaker 4: really good example of as a leader recognizing like, because
Speaker 4: people can be illustrating their OPRAH, but if you're not,
Speaker 4: as a leader seeing it and like rewarding them and
Speaker 4: showing them that with hard work, and for so many people,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of out there who are just not
Speaker 4: being seen because they have teams or management that just
Speaker 4: not is recognizing their talent. What I love about a
Speaker 4: recent grad. That's why I got excited, ag girl when
Speaker 4: I saw your question. It's like, oh, you can be molded.
Speaker 4: Like you're so young and this is your first you know,
Speaker 4: it sounds like the first full time job you've had.
Speaker 4: And just I would add to that, you know, how
Speaker 4: do I define illustrating your oprah? You know, for me,
Speaker 4: I think it's all about your professional brand, and first
Speaker 4: and foremost, that's like how the outside world outside of
Speaker 4: your employer is viewing your work. So this is people
Speaker 4: who you may engage with on LinkedIn or through networking events.
Speaker 4: What do they know about the work that you're doing
Speaker 4: and are you telling them and showing them so you're
Speaker 4: not the best kept secret. And then it's also like
Speaker 4: how do people at your company view you? You're so
Speaker 4: new that your first years. You know, if you go
Speaker 4: back to Tiffany's story about Logan, you know, she spent
Speaker 4: months doing really well and I'm assuming like demonstrating that
Speaker 4: with Tiffany and letting you see the growth and all
Speaker 4: of that and moving on to the next thing and
Speaker 4: so I think in your first year especially, give yourself
Speaker 4: time to make an impact, give yourself time to learn
Speaker 4: and to see what is needed and to try to
Speaker 4: fill that need. You know in your new role, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't go above and beyond just working just to be working, Like,
Speaker 4: take the task that you're given and complete them and
Speaker 4: learn and grow. But the best way to sort of
Speaker 4: expand your professional brand at work is to actually keep
Speaker 4: your manager and your team abreast of what it is
Speaker 4: that you're up to. So I love the idea of
Speaker 4: doing a weekly recap email for your manager, especially when
Speaker 4: you're new. Just literally can be a few sentences, Here's
Speaker 4: what I've been up to, Here's what I've been doing.
Speaker 4: This is really good for managers who are maybe a
Speaker 4: little bit more off hands and you don't feel like
Speaker 4: they're recognizing what you're doing. Demonstrate your oprah, tell them
Speaker 4: what you've been doing. So keeping them updated with like
Speaker 4: a weekly recap email a monthly. If you don't have
Speaker 4: a regular one on one with your manager, ask to
Speaker 4: schedule one. The key is just recognizing that sometimes we
Speaker 4: have to tell people that we're ready for more and
Speaker 4: tell them that we are worthy of more, and not
Speaker 4: like waiting for them to tap us on the shoulder
Speaker 4: and be like, you know, that's the ideal. I feel like, Tiffany,
Speaker 4: you're just like you're a badass. I'm going to give
Speaker 4: you more. Some managers are just clueless, and so we
Speaker 4: have to like say, hey, hi, give me more. And
Speaker 4: if not, you know, I'm going to be moving on
Speaker 4: down the road to someone who will give me more.
Speaker 4: So that's what I would say. Don't overwork yourself for
Speaker 4: the sake of doing it. And I also think if
Speaker 4: you're if you're being impactful and like really helping your team,
Speaker 4: then you can't make the mistake of thinking that I'm
Speaker 4: meant to do everything by myself and kill myself because
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if they're not actually
Speaker 4: asking you to do that, that'd be a problem too.
Speaker 4: But if you're just telling yourself, I need to work
Speaker 4: around the clock and you know, really burn myself out,
Speaker 4: all you're gonna do is end up resentful and like
Speaker 4: burnt out. And that's a mistake that too many women
Speaker 4: are making. Professionals are making, you know, in their careers
Speaker 4: as well. But you're so young, there's time. Don't don't
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Yes, girl, you're gonna be looking good. It's opuspank account,
Speaker 2: good luck, a new job. Yeah, oh the youths. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the fact you're asking that question speaks volumes about
Speaker 1: like you know, I feel like you're gonna crush it
Speaker 1: and kill it.
Speaker 2: So check in with us in a few months. We'd
Speaker 2: love to know how it's going.
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