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Speaker 1: Now it is time to welcome our guest for Game
Speaker 1: two of Champs Only. I am so excited to have
Speaker 1: this guest because I've watched this.
Speaker 3: Man grow from a young eighteen year old.
Speaker 1: Boy that came out of high school with a bunch
Speaker 1: of height, went through UCLA and delivered, came into the
Speaker 1: NBA and got red flagged, which is what we will
Speaker 1: talk about. Special, special player, even more special person. And
Speaker 1: you all have heard me say before. I won't say
Speaker 1: it because he's right here, but one of the if
Speaker 1: not the.
Speaker 3: Best teammate I've had.
Speaker 1: But even aside from that, and I've said this verbatim,
Speaker 1: the most professional guy that I've ever been around. And
Speaker 1: by the way, you see me get a suspended this stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not the best profession no in the NBA, but
Speaker 1: this guy is the most professional. I've never seen him
Speaker 1: late for anything, always way early for everything. Uh never
Speaker 1: has a complaint, no matter what the situation is, whether
Speaker 1: that's I'm starting today, I'm out of the rotation tomorrow,
Speaker 1: does not matter. Whether that's I need to switch on
Speaker 1: to James Harden or you need me to battle Joe LMB.
Speaker 1: I'll do that too. By the way, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: a quick story before I really introduced this guest. So
Speaker 1: we lost in the finals in twenty sixteen, which was
Speaker 1: his first year, and after the game we lost Game seven,
Speaker 1: after that series ended, he and his guy, which is
Speaker 1: my guy loving the Death Big War, they said, man,
Speaker 1: you need to help rebounding out there, and loun could
Speaker 1: have helped you rebound. And I'm like, man, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we could rebound it better than they like, No, lun
Speaker 1: could have. I'm telling you, Louon would have helped you
Speaker 1: rebound lou it and got those rebounds. And the reality
Speaker 1: is he then follows all of that talk up years
Speaker 1: later with twenty plus rebounds in multiple games on the
Speaker 1: way to an NBA championship. Starting center none other. It's
Speaker 1: time for us to welcome our guests, Golden State Warrior,
Speaker 1: three time NBA champion, my Man Tune, Cavan Looney, what's up,
Speaker 1: my brother?
Speaker 5: What's up? Man? I appreciate the intro.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Hey, listen, I'm excited as hell to have you
Speaker 1: on because number one, I think A people don't get
Speaker 1: to hear you talk often.
Speaker 3: B people don't understand the importance.
Speaker 1: That you've had in the run that we've had the
Speaker 1: importance that you've had and the championships we want. They
Speaker 1: don't understand that, and they really don't know you and
Speaker 1: they think you are mute, which, by the way, this
Speaker 1: dude didn't say a word for many years. Actually, you
Speaker 1: all know about the episode that me and coach Kerr
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr had in the locker room against OKAC when
Speaker 1: Lisa Saulters went out and reported what was like coming
Speaker 1: out of the locker room, which was like assault but crazy.
Speaker 3: But this guy never said a word.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think that thing may have happened
Speaker 1: in like February. This guy hadn't said a word all year,
Speaker 1: and then me and Steve like going out of the
Speaker 1: locker room and he's sitting there like uncontrollably laughing, like
Speaker 1: and then he starts to talk.
Speaker 3: And the reality is to see something like that.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I feel like that's the Milwaukee in him,
Speaker 1: Like it opens you up.
Speaker 3: But let's start there.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about that loom, Like, why all of
Speaker 1: a sudden did you feel like, oh, now I'm going
Speaker 1: to start talking to y'all after that happened, you.
Speaker 6: Know, coming in as a rookie and I was hurt
Speaker 6: to start the year off, so I didn't really get
Speaker 6: a chance to like being around y'all or be in
Speaker 6: the locker room I was rehabing. Had me rehabing, I
Speaker 6: got a different place, so it was like a little
Speaker 6: bit weird being around you guys, and y'all was a
Speaker 6: little bit older and didn't we didn't lose a game either,
Speaker 6: so it was like, all right, I didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 6: being myself. Everything was seemed like it was all like
Speaker 6: roses and winning every game. And then to see something
Speaker 6: really happening where guys really was tested and I seen
Speaker 6: like I reminded my team's growing up or that chaos
Speaker 6: really really people really want to win, like people really
Speaker 6: to fight to win. And I see y'all sit together
Speaker 6: and let me feel comfortable and made me feel like home.
Speaker 5: I feel like I was with my guys, Like these
Speaker 5: are my type of dudes right here.
Speaker 6: They really like you see if I in college and
Speaker 6: high school, you see it on TV's. I don't know
Speaker 6: how type of dudes these are, but to see it
Speaker 6: up and live and personal all these dudes really about that,
Speaker 6: I'm feel real COMFORTMB and I came out of my
Speaker 6: shelf a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious because obviously none of you were there for
Speaker 1: that moment. But in this moment, Steve wanted to kill me,
Speaker 1: and then he realized I wanted to kill him.
Speaker 6: That's one of the funniest things that I've been a
Speaker 6: part of. And sitting next to most fates and he
Speaker 6: and everybody trying to calm everybody down.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't help myself from laughing, but I know a
Speaker 5: right to laugh. It was a serious moment.
Speaker 6: But hearing Clay in the background telling Dremond relaxed and
Speaker 6: we're a teen you guys, and.
Speaker 5: It just made me live. That was one of the
Speaker 5: funniest things I've been part of.
Speaker 3: It's like, Dre shut up, man, he's the coach man.
Speaker 6: That game came back, y'all put together. And that's what
Speaker 6: stephand the crazy half court shot.
Speaker 1: That is the shot that actually, like obviously Steph had
Speaker 1: already start to start becoming Steph, but like, if you
Speaker 1: want to pinpoint a moment in Steph's career, that shot
Speaker 1: was like, oh he different, Like this dude here, he
Speaker 1: got no conscious he shoot the ball from anywhere in
Speaker 1: any situation. That shot was different. That's what separated him. Well,
Speaker 1: not separated him. But that's what made people like, oh no,
Speaker 1: he really wanted them ones and they came off the
Speaker 1: hills of Steve trying to murder me and then me
Speaker 1: hopping up and trying to get back at him. What
Speaker 1: a time, man, Steve, Steve and I, by the way, loom,
Speaker 1: this is just one moment. Steve and I have had
Speaker 1: so many of those moments, and it's just been like
Speaker 1: like that, like we actually built our relationship on those moments,
Speaker 1: and as Loan can attest to now, I don't even
Speaker 1: think me and Steve have an argument today, like he's like, oh, Dremond,
Speaker 1: you like, what the fuck are you doing? You should
Speaker 1: have and I'm like, all right, my bad, Like I'll
Speaker 1: do it now, right. But it's been great. Nonetheless, obviously,
Speaker 1: we just we're here with three time champion Kavan Looney
Speaker 1: and we just watched the NBA Finals. I watched the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. You watched the NBA Finals start off number one,
Speaker 1: and I was just get right into it. This is
Speaker 1: the first question I want to ask because I'm watching
Speaker 1: it and I couldn't help but think this because we
Speaker 1: lived it.
Speaker 3: If the Boston Celtics close this series.
Speaker 1: Out, and win the NBA Championship and Jason Tatum does
Speaker 1: not win the MVP. We watched it with Steph right
Speaker 1: for years. They're like, oh man, it's like an asterisk
Speaker 1: if Jason Tatum does not win.
Speaker 3: How do you.
Speaker 1: See that playing out for him? If he doesn't win
Speaker 1: MVP in this series?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: I think for him, I think it's gonna be business
Speaker 6: as usual. You know, from watching Steph not get it,
Speaker 6: it didn't really change none of his confidence.
Speaker 5: You know, of course he wanted to win it. As
Speaker 5: a competity, you want to win it.
Speaker 6: But I don't feel like it's gonna, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: change his demeanor. I don't think he's gonna look at
Speaker 6: his teammates thing differently. You know, after being there and losing,
Speaker 6: he got that taste of losing. I think that at
Speaker 6: this point he just want to get to get the ring.
Speaker 6: I think that's the first thing I think he want
Speaker 6: to accomplish.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: Then maybe you get there a second and third time.
Speaker 6: Now you want to get all the extra I want
Speaker 6: the finals in VPM on that. But I think right
Speaker 6: now he just trying to win. He know how I
Speaker 6: feel to lose in that moment, and we both been
Speaker 6: on the losing side, and it hurts, but.
Speaker 5: You just want to get to that taste in the
Speaker 5: champagne and get that experience.
Speaker 1: Losing, by the way, losing in the NBA Finals is
Speaker 1: the absolute worst thing you can do. You lose about
Speaker 1: seven weeks of your summer, seven weeks of your seventeen
Speaker 1: week summer, and you got absolutely nothing to show for
Speaker 1: it other than like a garbage playoff check that in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, it's good money. But when
Speaker 1: you break it down, like like I actually make more
Speaker 1: money per game than the NBA finals check if you
Speaker 1: win the NBA Finals, Like when you break it down
Speaker 1: to play twenty five extra games, Like, when you really
Speaker 1: break it down, the check actually doesn't make sense. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: we'll take the money for sure, But you only got
Speaker 1: to show for like a little bit more in your
Speaker 1: in your playoff bonus, and you lost your seven weeks
Speaker 1: and summer.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Let's like.
Speaker 6: When you played play your heart out, you come up short.
Speaker 6: Now you got to spend a whole summer rehabbing. You
Speaker 6: don't get to be healthy all the way. It's just
Speaker 6: a lot a lot more pain.
Speaker 1: What you end up doing is you end up going
Speaker 1: into your summer, like managing your body, and so the
Speaker 1: reality it's very hard to get better coming off an
Speaker 1: NBA Finals because you need a break and then you're
Speaker 1: trying to manage your body, and then you're trying to
Speaker 1: ramp up at the right time so that you're ready
Speaker 1: to get back. Like it's actually the absolute worst thing
Speaker 1: that can happen to you get into the NBA Finals
Speaker 1: and losing that was the worst experience of my career
Speaker 1: both times, Like that.
Speaker 3: Is the worst.
Speaker 1: Oh you you experienced both of those, by the way,
Speaker 1: both of Yeah, it's by the way, Tune's first experience.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about I blew it, and we'll
Speaker 1: we'll move on from I blew it. Ah, it's cool,
Speaker 1: we'll move on from that. But Tune, I got a
Speaker 1: question for you. So, we had a lot of success
Speaker 1: against this Boston team when we start sending everybody left,
Speaker 1: and when you watch this series, I actually think you
Speaker 1: can still do it and be successful. However, I don't
Speaker 1: think Dallas has been egregious enough and like, no, you
Speaker 1: gotta go left. I actually think they're favoring that thing
Speaker 1: more with JT than they are with JB and I
Speaker 1: think you can have some success with both of them
Speaker 1: doing that. Nonetheless, when you're looking at Dallas's game plan,
Speaker 1: what is it that you think they can do differently
Speaker 1: to help them, Like, I mean, get a win in
Speaker 1: this series and get rolling.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's more at the office event than
Speaker 6: a defensive end. I don't feel like like they're not
Speaker 6: like Boston isn't getting one hundred and twenty some points. No,
Speaker 6: they're not shooting the three that well and making it
Speaker 6: tough for Tatum. He's not getting these easy looks. But offensively,
Speaker 6: I think you gotta get Like Luca came out really
Speaker 6: aggressive in the first quarter. I feel like he gotta
Speaker 6: get his role guys a little bit more involved in
Speaker 6: the in the first half. I know, as a role
Speaker 6: player in that first quarter, if you don't get a
Speaker 6: layup or a dunk or something to get you going,
Speaker 6: you you get a little tense.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: Now later in the game, you ain't gonna be an
Speaker 6: shoot the ball as well.
Speaker 5: Uh seemed like things don't.
Speaker 6: Go your way if you don't go off to a
Speaker 6: good start a game one day and get off to
Speaker 6: a good start as a team. I think, uh, today
Speaker 6: they you know, Luca came out, made sure that they
Speaker 6: got off to a better start. He was really aggressive.
Speaker 6: He had got it going. But I don't know if
Speaker 6: his PJ got it going or Derek didn't have that
Speaker 6: confidence of shooting three cleveand had that confidence. So I
Speaker 6: think it's more of the officive and they got to
Speaker 6: figure out what pace they want to play at, uh
Speaker 6: to you know, so really control the game. I think
Speaker 6: they never really found a rhythm of like what you know,
Speaker 6: what's the right pace for on right now?
Speaker 5: I don't know what you think.
Speaker 1: I actually think exactly what you just said. I think
Speaker 1: the offensive end Luca started off great, and I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Like it's like me, if I see that
Speaker 1: first three go in, like it changes my night offens,
Speaker 1: Like you see that first one going because here's like,
Speaker 1: here's how you have to think about it, right, Like,
Speaker 1: if I see that first three go in, that mean
Speaker 1: I got two threes to play with, Like, because if
Speaker 1: I miss.
Speaker 3: The next two, I'm at thirty three percent.
Speaker 1: Cool, Ain't nobody expecting me to shoot forty five like
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Like, so I'm at thirty three percent if
Speaker 1: I missed those next two, So that give me two
Speaker 1: threes to play with right, and I think Luca did
Speaker 1: come out super aggressive, and to be quite honest, I
Speaker 1: think as much as Luca needed to come out that aggressive,
Speaker 1: it actually played right into the hands of Boston because
Speaker 1: Boston's game plan, as you can see, their game plan
Speaker 1: is all right, Luke and Kyrie, y'all beat us, like
Speaker 1: we're gonna take these other.
Speaker 3: Guys away, taking these lives away.
Speaker 1: All the lives you was getting against Minnesota, all the
Speaker 1: lives you was getting. I'm drawing a blank on who
Speaker 1: they was playing before, but all the lives. We taking
Speaker 1: all of that stuff away. And now let's see, can
Speaker 1: you beat us with Luke and Kyrie? And I think
Speaker 1: I think Luca played really well. Kaya is getting to
Speaker 1: his spots, He's just missing and as we know, this
Speaker 1: is a make or mislead. So I agree with you
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think their offense has actually hurt
Speaker 1: their defense like their defense has. I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: I think they can be more egregious and make and
Speaker 1: plan on Boston being the directional team that they are.
Speaker 1: I think they could be more egregious in those coverages.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, their offense at the offense
Speaker 1: has been a problem. And it's crazy because when I
Speaker 1: was when I was watching the game and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about the podcast, like you be watching, I'll be
Speaker 1: taking those and I'll be thinking and like.
Speaker 3: One thing I was going to say is.
Speaker 1: Dallas right now has to make an adjustment. And the
Speaker 1: adjustment that they have to make is actually extremely tough
Speaker 1: butts doable, which is they actually need to change their
Speaker 1: office right now. Like I actually I think they need
Speaker 1: to have Luca in the posts, like put Luca in
Speaker 1: the because here's the thing, and you can speak to this,
Speaker 1: and I want you to speak to it. Luca the
Speaker 1: way he plays and you know he has the ball,
Speaker 1: he makes all the plays.
Speaker 3: Is a lot It's very similar.
Speaker 1: I won't say a lot light because I think Luca's
Speaker 1: actually like Lebron James, but I'll say very similar to
Speaker 1: James Harden Rockets. And you can speak to that because
Speaker 1: I remember, I'll get to that question a second, but.
Speaker 3: Like, talk to me about that.
Speaker 1: Like Luca got the ball and they're saying great, go
Speaker 1: beat us, like good go, and he had twenty three
Speaker 1: like but seven minutes to go in the second quarter
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 3: But their game plan is to let you do that.
Speaker 1: So just just talk to me about like knowing, understanding,
Speaker 1: Like when you get in these NBA finals, we know
Speaker 1: you going with a game plan. Then when you see
Speaker 1: that game plan work, like, talk to me about that,
Speaker 1: like understanding the game plan, seeing the work, and then
Speaker 1: like what's next for the opposite team that's seeing their
Speaker 1: game plan not work?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with putting Luca on the post, Like
Speaker 6: from guarding him in the playoffs in Guarden throughout the year.
Speaker 6: When he's at the top, he's tough to stop, but
Speaker 6: you know you got help. He's farther away from the basket.
Speaker 6: You can kind of pick the shots you want to take,
Speaker 6: or he gotta take a lot more dribbles to get
Speaker 6: to his spot. But when he gets alive drive in
Speaker 6: the post, you kind of got it double And now
Speaker 6: now you can really pick them apart and he can
Speaker 6: get other guys involved us.
Speaker 5: He can shoot his turn around. He's the same shots
Speaker 5: he's doing from the top.
Speaker 6: He can do it off off the post, and now
Speaker 6: you gotta like kind of gotta help everybody. He gets
Speaker 6: already getting in the paint. Now guys don't know where
Speaker 6: to rotate from. Uh, it's just different. Even when we're
Speaker 6: playing him this year, it was kind of hard when
Speaker 6: he's on the post. It's kind of hard to really
Speaker 6: know dictate where he's going to make the pass and
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I agree with putting him on
Speaker 6: the post, uh moving around, because to sit them at
Speaker 6: the top, he's.
Speaker 5: Going to score. But I think it's easier to take
Speaker 5: the other guys away.
Speaker 6: You can just switch everything and play boxes and elbows
Speaker 6: and then close out and Boston super Athletics so they
Speaker 6: can really get to get out to the shooters, and
Speaker 6: so I think you put them on the post will
Speaker 6: probably be best. Uh, you know, he could score anybody
Speaker 6: down there that's on holiday Tatum, so they're gonna have
Speaker 6: to send somebody at some point, and then when they do,
Speaker 6: he's able to pick them apart and get other guys involved.
Speaker 5: So I definitely agree with that.
Speaker 1: I watched you make a career actually out of all right,
Speaker 1: let me explain this because people be like, ah, like,
Speaker 1: how could you be disrespectful like that? But the reality
Speaker 1: is we all make our careers off of something, like
Speaker 1: you do something and then you're able to build on that,
Speaker 1: And I watched you make a career out of actually
Speaker 1: being switched onto James hard and a guy who has
Speaker 1: actually become our brother, which I always say is nuts,
Speaker 1: but CP, I actually I watched them like you come
Speaker 1: in the game them wave me out of the pick
Speaker 1: and roll, like no, don't bring him up, bring him
Speaker 1: up and call you into the pick and roll, like
Speaker 1: all right, now we got to switch. I'm going at him,
Speaker 1: and then you sit down on see you sit down
Speaker 1: on James and like, make them take tough shots.
Speaker 3: Are we expecting you to lock them down?
Speaker 1: Of course, not like, by the way, not expecting me
Speaker 1: to lock them down, not expecting clayon lot. You want
Speaker 1: to make them take tough and I watched you switch
Speaker 1: on to them and make them take tough shots over
Speaker 1: and over and over again and then start to build
Speaker 1: your career. When you look at this, this this Boston team,
Speaker 1: they're switching everything, and they're like, y'all gotta beat us.
Speaker 1: And what Boston keep doing is they keep calling our
Speaker 1: Horford into the pick and roll. Our Horford is switching. Now,
Speaker 1: by the way, that's actually Boston's worst nightmare because I
Speaker 1: actually think our Horford is way worse than pick and
Speaker 1: roll covers than he is switching and so it's working
Speaker 1: to their favor. But like I said, I watched you
Speaker 1: make a career. Now when you watch them continue to
Speaker 1: call our Horford into the pick and roll, what is
Speaker 1: that like being the big that's on the other side
Speaker 1: of that. And then also, do you think it's possible
Speaker 1: for Dallas to win if they keep just calling him
Speaker 1: into the pick and roll and then get the switch?
Speaker 6: Well, as a big called it to the pick and
Speaker 6: roll every time it sucks, That's that's one thing playing
Speaker 6: with you. Nobody wants to attack you. So I had
Speaker 6: to always be the guy, all right, bring the other
Speaker 6: big into it. So I got I got a lot
Speaker 6: of rips. And uh, Horford is not a bad defender.
Speaker 6: It'd be different if if he's somebody has a cone
Speaker 6: out there, he's they're blowing right past him. But Hopeford
Speaker 6: is a he's a good position of defender. He's gonna
Speaker 6: make somebody get today second move. And when you that
Speaker 6: far from the basket, Uh, that's all you want, you know,
Speaker 6: be there three seconds, make them work, make a change
Speaker 6: direction once even your guard, that's all you really want
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 5: So uh, I think it's gonna I don't.
Speaker 6: Think it's a good idea to to keep uh you know,
Speaker 6: bringing them into picking rolls and switching. Uh, Like you
Speaker 6: gotta kind of move him around. And uh, that's what
Speaker 6: we kind of did with Stephen. It wasn't just straight
Speaker 6: one on one, like we kind of moved him around.
Speaker 5: We talked about.
Speaker 6: Spreading to the screen, flipping the screen, changing the angle.
Speaker 6: So now he got to be on the move. He's
Speaker 6: able to just to line you up and have his
Speaker 6: hands out. He's gonna be able to get a stop
Speaker 6: or he gonna make it tough for you. But when
Speaker 6: you as a big on the move, you got to guard,
Speaker 6: change the direction. That's when it gets really tough. And uh,
Speaker 6: I think they kind of got to move the biggs around.
Speaker 6: It's so easy just to play one on one from
Speaker 6: the top.
Speaker 5: Uh you know I can.
Speaker 6: It's easy to base somebody to three, and it's tough
Speaker 6: beating somebody taking off step back three and tough too.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree on.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because when you sprint into those screens, it
Speaker 1: then builds confusion of the switch, Like, oh, now you
Speaker 1: spread into it. That guy gotta spread. Now he moving,
Speaker 1: he gotta stop the guard coming off.
Speaker 3: He can split, he can.
Speaker 1: Attack you you're getting that switch is not just like
Speaker 1: you loading up the defense isn't set in the other spots.
Speaker 3: You spread into it.
Speaker 1: You spread into it, you can flip it, you spread
Speaker 1: into it, you can slip it right.
Speaker 3: It opens up so many options.
Speaker 6: Spread they did get was from Jones flipping the screen.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of confusion.
Speaker 6: He got the lot, So I think they got to definitely,
Speaker 6: you know, try to change his change the screen, change
Speaker 6: and angleing. Oh, don't always put the big end because
Speaker 6: we kind of game plan for that. We know all
Speaker 6: if hors in the in the in the ice on
Speaker 6: the island, this is what we're gonna do when you
Speaker 6: change the people, the pieces and the players. Sometimes guards
Speaker 6: don't know how to switch all the time, or they
Speaker 6: might not be used to different type of switches solf
Speaker 6: or if it's around the tail, are we switching?
Speaker 5: Are we not?
Speaker 6: Like so different things like that, you gotta kind of
Speaker 6: try to change the pieces on the court.
Speaker 3: I agree with that one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I saw something in the third quarter that happened, uh,
Speaker 1: and it was very reminiscent of me, or reminiscent of
Speaker 1: something for me that I saw, And I just wonder
Speaker 1: if you saw the same thing, or did it make
Speaker 1: you think the same.
Speaker 3: Thing that it made me think?
Speaker 1: What did Peyton Pritcher's third quarter buzzer be to make
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 5: About our series? JP? In the shot I changed the.
Speaker 3: Whole change everything.
Speaker 1: By the way, we were up where were we up
Speaker 1: fifteen points or something going into that quarter and they
Speaker 1: took the lead. And then, by the way, when you
Speaker 1: take a lead like that after coming down, coming back
Speaker 1: from down so much, and then you take the lead,
Speaker 1: what it does to the other team is demoralized. They
Speaker 1: had the lead, and then JP hitched the crazy shot,
Speaker 1: which then takes the momentum back immediately for us, because now,
Speaker 1: as opposed to you looking up and saying we're up one,
Speaker 1: you look up and you say, man, we killed ourselves.
Speaker 1: We down too, And what that does to you mentally
Speaker 1: is crazy. Because I was watching the game and I
Speaker 1: said to a few of my friends, Dallas was playing
Speaker 1: extremely well, and they looked up and it was thirty
Speaker 1: six thirty five Boston. And when they looked up and
Speaker 1: saw thirty six thirty five.
Speaker 3: Boston, what that.
Speaker 1: I could look at Dallas, by the way, and you
Speaker 1: could see, like, by the way, I'm talking a minute.
Speaker 1: When you see this, you know we got them. And
Speaker 1: I saw that from Dallas, Like when they looked up
Speaker 1: and it was thirty six thirty five, you saw Lucas
Speaker 1: still like, ah, come on, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: But you saw guys like that's that belief of like
Speaker 1: and tune. You could speak to this, I feel like,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if you feel the same way. I
Speaker 1: feel like we get to a point in every series.
Speaker 1: The first time we didn't get to that point was
Speaker 1: actually the Lakers in my career, where we got to
Speaker 1: a point and we're like, oh, we got this. Actually yeah,
Speaker 1: even when we lost to the Clippers we thought we
Speaker 1: had and when we lost to the Spurs we was
Speaker 1: up to one we thought. But you get to a
Speaker 1: point in every series where you're like, oh, I know, X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z we win it. And at that moment,
Speaker 1: I feel like Boston was like, oh we got this,
Speaker 1: like we we winning. But anyway, can you speak to
Speaker 1: that on Do you feel that way that same way
Speaker 1: as well? I like when you get to the point
Speaker 1: in this series and you're like, oh, yeah, we got this.
Speaker 6: One for sure, Like going into a series like you've
Speaker 6: confident that you can win, but you don't really know.
Speaker 5: We see what they're gonna do. Uh we played them
Speaker 5: in the regular season.
Speaker 6: They know it's different in the playoffs, and when you
Speaker 6: get get to playing even you can go down and
Speaker 6: you can lose and then like and still feel like,
Speaker 6: all right, we lost this game, but we got these dudes,
Speaker 6: like we figured out what they're doing, We got the
Speaker 6: game plan. If I make this sudjustment, we're gonna win,
Speaker 6: and uh.
Speaker 5: We it's it's it's I don't know. I've never been
Speaker 5: on the other side where I didn't feel like Whens.
Speaker 6: Probably was that Lakers series where we got down, it's
Speaker 6: all right, what we're gonna do to figure this out,
Speaker 6: how we're gonna crack this code, who we need to
Speaker 6: get going to win and different things like that, and uh,
Speaker 6: watching the game, I definitely feel like Boston, we got
Speaker 6: these dudes like, uh take them my shooting well, uh
Speaker 6: a brown and shoot that well.
Speaker 5: But we still we're still winning.
Speaker 6: We're making all the fifty fifty plays, were playing our
Speaker 6: solid basketball, and that's that's.
Speaker 5: When you when you're doing that, you feel good about it.
Speaker 6: When we can play a bad game or not have
Speaker 6: a shoot night, but our identity, Uh I will kind
Speaker 6: of win us the game. That's where we know we
Speaker 6: got this. We should now you go back home things.
Speaker 6: We should make our threes, We should win by twenty.
Speaker 6: That that feeling gives you the confidence we can we
Speaker 6: can go go win it. So Uh, I definitely feel
Speaker 6: like Boston feels that way.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: Dallas, they going home, they gonna feel good about it. Uh,
Speaker 6: everybody play better at home. And I think that Game
Speaker 6: three is gonna be gonna be big because they need
Speaker 6: they need to win. They need a confident win too.
Speaker 6: They don't need to squeak it out. They need to
Speaker 6: go out there and really flex their muscle so they
Speaker 6: can get that confidence back. We really could beat these
Speaker 6: dudes and put them doubt into Boston.
Speaker 1: This is this is the Draymond Green Show presented to
Speaker 1: you by Hyper actually not by High Price. This is
Speaker 1: the Draymond Green Show presented to you by Cavon Looney.
Speaker 3: Because the thing that this.
Speaker 1: Man is saying right now, I hope you all listening,
Speaker 1: And this is exactly why I was excited as hell
Speaker 1: when I hit you yesterday, Like yo, hey, you know
Speaker 1: what's crazy too?
Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I'm like, we need to
Speaker 1: we need to book a guest for Champs only tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Who do we book? Who do we book?
Speaker 1: And Trave said what about Loom And I said, man,
Speaker 1: say no more. That's genius because hey, I love him
Speaker 1: to death, but b he going to get the opportunity.
Speaker 3: To show the world how smart he is.
Speaker 1: And I get to live it every day like this
Speaker 1: dude come to me and like most people will consider
Speaker 1: me smart in the basketball world, and like this dude
Speaker 1: to come to me, like, hey, what you see because
Speaker 1: I see blah.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, bah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You see that. I'm like, what do you want me
Speaker 1: to tell you? Like what do you want me to say?
Speaker 3: Like you just said it, Like that's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you and I've raved about him, right,
Speaker 1: I've raved about his professionalism, I've raised a bottom of
Speaker 1: being a great teammate.
Speaker 3: What I have not raved about is how smart this
Speaker 3: man is and.
Speaker 1: The things that he's saying right now is actually things
Speaker 1: that if I was sitting here doing a podcast with
Speaker 1: y'all by myself.
Speaker 3: The things that I would want to say.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'll land on them, because you're getting
Speaker 1: this thing and it's a little different, like you kind
Speaker 1: of go with the flow, you make your points. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I'll land on them. But the things that
Speaker 1: he's saying right now is where I would want to land.
Speaker 1: And I hope y'all listening because the education that you're
Speaker 1: getting right now is special. This man talking about going
Speaker 1: back home, how everybody gonna play better, how they need
Speaker 1: to win, not they need to win, but how they
Speaker 1: need to.
Speaker 3: Win in order to make this a series.
Speaker 1: See as the Big Diesel say, this is G fourteen
Speaker 1: classification telling you what you need to know, how you
Speaker 1: need to go about it. And I'm sorry, but you
Speaker 1: know I love taking prid of the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: But the Draymon Green Show is being dominated right now,
Speaker 1: and you gotta love it because when you tuned into
Speaker 1: this show, you didn't expect it. You know why you
Speaker 1: didn't expect it because you didn't know that the reason
Speaker 1: this man is so successful, the reason this man can
Speaker 1: go get twenty rebounds in multiple playoff games in a series,
Speaker 1: it's not because he can jump that high. It's not
Speaker 1: because he's the smartest guy. It's because he's I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, not the smartest guy, me the strongest guy.
Speaker 1: It's because he's smart. It's because he can see the
Speaker 1: ball like, oh, that's about to bounce there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go that way, y'all. Remember the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set the mic down so I can do this, y'all.
Speaker 1: Remember the thing when Dennis Robinson like that's that's what
Speaker 1: this man does, and it's one of the most incredible things.
Speaker 1: But even also from a defensive perspective, it's not that
Speaker 1: he's fast enough to keep up with prime James Harden
Speaker 1: mixing everybody or Prime Chris Paul mixing. It's not that
Speaker 1: he's fast enough. It's not that he moves great enough
Speaker 1: to keep up with them, dudes. I don't move great
Speaker 1: enough to keep up with them dudes. It's because he's
Speaker 1: that's smart. And so I hope y'all are appreciating this
Speaker 1: the way I'm appreciating in tune.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that from I gotta line now from you.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that, all right.
Speaker 1: Listen, one of the things I always say, and it's
Speaker 1: crazy because I be feeling like it, and I never
Speaker 1: tell them. You can't be the king of the parking
Speaker 1: life forever, and you're not going to be the guy.
Speaker 3: By the way, if.
Speaker 1: You take someone under your wing and you try to
Speaker 1: teach them the things that you know, if they don't
Speaker 1: end up smarter than you, you didn't do a good
Speaker 1: job or you didn't do the job that needed to
Speaker 1: be done. Because for me, since this man arrived in
Speaker 1: gold in San Francisco, Oakland actually, but with the Golden
Speaker 1: State Warriors, he actually arrived to take my spot, like
Speaker 1: because the Warriors kept drafting people that like were like
Speaker 1: like getting me out of there. For like five six years.
Speaker 1: It was like Loon, then it was I mean I
Speaker 1: could just name the names. I won't remember the order,
Speaker 1: but it was like Loon, then JB then like Eric
Speaker 1: Pascal Smiley, like the list went on and the Warriors
Speaker 1: kept drafting people to like replace me, and I get it,
Speaker 1: by the way, like it was never like a oh
Speaker 1: that's bullshit or like fuck that, I'm not gonna teach
Speaker 1: this man something like.
Speaker 3: It was never that for me for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 1: Number one, it's because when when I got the spot
Speaker 1: that I got when David Lee was hurt, and then
Speaker 1: I took this over the spot.
Speaker 3: He never stopped teaching me. He never stopped.
Speaker 1: Saying like, yo, you see this, like they're doing this,
Speaker 1: you should, or how to combat. He never stopped teaching me.
Speaker 1: I loved David Lee to death, always will have my
Speaker 1: love and respect. Never stopped teaching me. So Number one,
Speaker 1: I was taught that at Michigan State when the competition
Speaker 1: was going on. Travis Walden taught us like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: in competition with Kaylee Lucas because he coming in to
Speaker 1: take my spot, But that's my little brother, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna teach him everything I know. And so for me,
Speaker 1: I I've tried to teach and instill everything I know
Speaker 1: into this man right here because I felt like that
Speaker 1: was my duty.
Speaker 3: And I be feeling so dumb when he come talk
Speaker 3: to me like yo, you.
Speaker 1: See da da da d And like sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: even see it, and I'll be like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw that, Like I just act like I saw it.
Speaker 1: But secondly, even if I do see it, it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: you don't need the answers for me, Like you know
Speaker 1: the answers to the test already like, I don't need
Speaker 1: to give you the answers to the test, And I
Speaker 1: feel like he'd be doing that on purpose to make
Speaker 1: me look or feel not look because it's just me
Speaker 1: and him.
Speaker 3: Feel done with He like, Yo, you see blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah blah, and they doing this, And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they doing.
Speaker 6: But nonetheless, ideas I got check in with you.
Speaker 5: But if you've seen it, I know right there.
Speaker 1: It is the most special thing when you when you
Speaker 1: take a young guy under your wing.
Speaker 3: And then you see them have success, it is the
Speaker 3: best feeling.
Speaker 1: By the way, it was the same thing for me
Speaker 1: with Jordan Poole when I took JP under my wing
Speaker 1: and to see him have success was the best thing
Speaker 1: for me. One of the worst feelings I've ever had
Speaker 1: as an NBA basketball player was seeing him get in
Speaker 1: a contract and knowing that I fucked it off and
Speaker 1: I couldn't celebrate his contract with him. It was one
Speaker 1: of the worst feelings that I've ever had as an
Speaker 1: NBA player. Not losing the NBA Finals, as much as
Speaker 1: that sucks, you move on from it, but like that's
Speaker 1: a life changing thing, Like we've experienced that, Like you
Speaker 1: got your contract that was life changing, right, we experienced that.
Speaker 1: And to see his life changed like that, and like
Speaker 1: I think he had like a party or something with
Speaker 1: his people in San Francisco or something, and like to
Speaker 1: not be able to go celebrate that.
Speaker 3: Here and I fucked it off like I did. I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna sit here and act like I didn't. I
Speaker 3: fucked it off. You know me, I take it on
Speaker 3: the chain, and I take it on the chain. It
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't hide from my fuck ups, just like I
Speaker 1: don't hide from my wins. When I talk to you
Speaker 1: all about the wins I have and I tell you,
Speaker 1: don't let us win another fucking championship, and then I
Speaker 1: tell you about it. I'm the same way with my losses.
Speaker 1: And I messed out one up, but it hurts. And
Speaker 1: to see loun how the success that they've had, and
Speaker 1: to just know like you taught him a little bit,
Speaker 1: like you did what you're supposed to do to teach
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 1: And now Lou you doing that. What was it like
Speaker 1: for you to see trash playing well this year?
Speaker 6: I well, see trace play. It's been great, you know,
Speaker 6: uh seeing him in because really during the summer time
Speaker 6: he was he was hurt, so I couldn't really like
Speaker 6: play with him. We didn't get a lot of time
Speaker 6: to like work out together.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: But this year, uh, you know, being able to work
Speaker 6: out with him and see his his talent. I remember
Speaker 6: you being you talking about like in the summer time
Speaker 6: he couldn't play at the mini camp and he was
Speaker 6: asking him, man, what are you get out on the court?
Speaker 5: Is he how is?
Speaker 6: I'm like pretty good, Like he got a good feel
Speaker 6: for the game, got a high i Q. I didn't
Speaker 6: know he was that athletic, and probably the season actually started.
Speaker 5: Uh, But just to see his.
Speaker 6: Growth and be able to learn and like workout with
Speaker 6: it has been cool, especially after like losing Decue. I
Speaker 6: feel like our big man, this guy a lot closer.
Speaker 6: So it's always always cool to see him you know,
Speaker 6: uh reached his uh the reward after the work he
Speaker 6: put in. So it's been really cool. I had that
Speaker 6: question for you because being that being older in the league.
Speaker 6: But I'll be seeing the plays. But you got a
Speaker 6: great skill of breaking it down. A lot of times
Speaker 6: I come to you just so you can break it
Speaker 6: down better than I can.
Speaker 5: That's don't know where you learn that from.
Speaker 6: And like who taught you how to really so you
Speaker 6: can put a complex scheme, you can break it down
Speaker 6: to lame, it's turn to anybody.
Speaker 3: Can get it honestly too.
Speaker 1: I feel like I am more blessed than any basketball
Speaker 1: player in the NBA. And the reason I feel that
Speaker 1: way is because the coach that I had along the way,
Speaker 1: Like when I started playing basketball, my uncle Benny taught
Speaker 1: me the game, Like.
Speaker 3: He didn't teach me.
Speaker 1: My uncle Benny still called me to this day and
Speaker 1: be like, man, I taught you great. I'm just disappointed
Speaker 1: because the one thing I didn't teach y'all was one
Speaker 1: on one score.
Speaker 3: He's like, I taught y'all everything.
Speaker 1: Man, I feel so happy about it when I watch
Speaker 1: you play, It's like, but I'm disappointed in myself because
Speaker 1: the one thing I didn't teach y'all was one on
Speaker 1: one score. And to go from my uncle Benny, who
Speaker 1: taught me the game at a very young age, Like
Speaker 1: I learned how to play healthside defense in elementary like
Speaker 1: helpside rules, gap defense, like the things that you learn
Speaker 1: by the way I see guys coming into NBA learning
Speaker 1: these things because they had them terrible college coaches that
Speaker 1: they thought was nice and they not Tom is uh.
Speaker 1: By the way, Lou should have been a spartan. But
Speaker 1: that's a conversation for another day. But when I tell you,
Speaker 1: guys comeing to NBA not knowing how to get in
Speaker 1: the gap, not knowing how to play help side deep.
Speaker 3: I learned that in elementary school and then.
Speaker 1: The coaches that I had along the way, Coach Dawkins,
Speaker 1: Coach Speedy, and to make it to the great time
Speaker 1: is a the things like Tom is all as much
Speaker 1: as I was taught by those coaches before Tom Izzo
Speaker 1: taught me how to break it down that way, because
Speaker 1: coach is what bring you into a film session. And
Speaker 1: by the way, as you know, I've just explained to
Speaker 1: y'all my relationship with Coach Kurry how it started.
Speaker 3: It began.
Speaker 1: I am very much so the player that's going to
Speaker 1: test you. I am very much so the player that's
Speaker 1: going to question you. I am very much so the
Speaker 1: guy that if you don't know what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hate me because I'm gonna ask you the
Speaker 1: questions and you gotta give me an answer, and it
Speaker 1: ain't no roundabout answer you giving me.
Speaker 3: You gotta answer my question or I'm gonna like that
Speaker 3: don't make sense.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm gonna let you know I
Speaker 1: feel like that don't make sense. And Coach is all
Speaker 1: with how to saying. He say, listen, my office door
Speaker 1: is always open, but if you come in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: you better bring the goods. Because if you go in
Speaker 1: coach his own office and you say blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: he gonna take you right through this little doorway in
Speaker 1: his office, which is his big film room with a
Speaker 1: big long table, and he gonna sit you down and
Speaker 1: he gonna rip you apart through philm like look at
Speaker 1: this blah blah blah blah. And he taught me how
Speaker 1: a to watch film, which is like, man, Loun just
Speaker 1: had to turnover.
Speaker 3: But why didn't Loan how to turnover?
Speaker 1: Because Draymond threw him a pass at his feet, and
Speaker 1: when you threw him a pass at his feet, he
Speaker 1: had to bend down and get that pass, and then
Speaker 1: his next pass was from there out of emotion, out
Speaker 1: of bounds. And people's mind is like, hey, Lon just
Speaker 1: had to turnover. What coach Iso taught me is Draymond,
Speaker 1: you had to turnover right. And so through film, he
Speaker 1: then taught me indirectly how to break.
Speaker 3: These things down into layman's terms.
Speaker 1: And so when he taught me how to watch Phil,
Speaker 1: that's when I learned how to break the game of
Speaker 1: basketball down the way I can because I watched.
Speaker 3: These films with him.
Speaker 1: And again I'm going in there like, is fuck this man,
Speaker 1: I didn't get the ball, and he like, look at this,
Speaker 1: look at that, look at this, look at that thing,
Speaker 1: look at this thing. And he would tear me down
Speaker 1: so bad, like to the point where you walk out
Speaker 1: of there you feel so defeated. But I will walk
Speaker 1: out of there and I would feel like, man, I
Speaker 1: am so much smarter than I was when I walked
Speaker 1: in there. And that's kind of where I got it from.
Speaker 1: It's like it's teaching like the way he taught me,
Speaker 1: Like you see me in film session when we watch Phil,
Speaker 1: I go, go, go go, because the things that I'm
Speaker 1: watching on film when we watching Phil, it's probably not
Speaker 1: what everybody.
Speaker 3: Else is watching.
Speaker 1: But I've been taught to watch film like Tom is
Speaker 1: a That's the only way I know. And so that
Speaker 1: helped me learn how to break down these things to
Speaker 1: where like anybody can understand it. Because to Tom ISO's
Speaker 1: basketball knowledge, I was just like everybody else. I was
Speaker 1: anybody that needed to understand and he would break it
Speaker 1: down like that.
Speaker 3: And that's why you should have went to Michigan State. Tune.
Speaker 6: But you put it like that, it sounds good, but
Speaker 6: you see it. Whereas that recruiting his son right now,
Speaker 6: he's gonna be at U c l A too.
Speaker 3: It's going it's crazy because.
Speaker 1: You know we we live well not in season right
Speaker 1: up the street from U c l A and DJ
Speaker 1: B Daddy.
Speaker 3: You see La this, you see La that? You see
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, we we sparked. It's like we're Michigan
Speaker 3: State and I told tune this and no tune just
Speaker 3: hold it off from my head. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but too, I don't want to hold you
Speaker 1: too long. I got a couple more questions for you.
Speaker 1: What do you think Dallas can do? And you've kind
Speaker 1: of hinted out it a little bit, but give me
Speaker 1: two adjustments that the Dallas Mavericks need to make in
Speaker 1: order to get back in this series.
Speaker 6: Well, I definitely get the others feeling more comfortable. Uh,
Speaker 6: how you go about that.
Speaker 5: That's for a couple of different things.
Speaker 6: I seem like they tried to start the second was
Speaker 6: that the third quarter they went in the post and
Speaker 6: he got a couple Uh, I think got a hook shot,
Speaker 6: and I think he got a much better have it
Speaker 6: because he felt like he was involved seeing the ball
Speaker 6: going a round. Like we talked about putting Luca on
Speaker 6: on the on the post. See, well see how Boston
Speaker 6: reacts to that. That that's another just they could do. Uh,
Speaker 6: I didn't. I don't feel like I've seen much Kyrie
Speaker 6: and Luca picking rolls like them playing. Uh, that's something
Speaker 6: that maybe you could try, uh for the offensive end,
Speaker 6: uh and defensively, I feel like they didn't doing a
Speaker 6: good job.
Speaker 5: You know, Boston miss a lot of threes.
Speaker 6: Maybe, like you said, send them left so they can,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of take Tatum and Brown from punching
Speaker 6: the paint. Uh, and they got to figure out how
Speaker 6: to take Holidays like energy plays out the game.
Speaker 5: He kind of put his hand print all over the game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: He didn't bully him, but he kind of like had
Speaker 5: his way where he got where he wanted to get.
Speaker 6: To he came up with whatever he loose ball he
Speaker 6: made all the time he plays, and so you got
Speaker 6: to figure out how to match his intensity.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: And as a role player, I feel like that's our
Speaker 6: job is to figure out that part.
Speaker 5: You know, Holiday not a role player.
Speaker 6: He's a little bit too qualified for his what he's
Speaker 6: actually doing out there. So as like guy like Derrick
Speaker 6: Jones Junior should probably take that like little person, I'm
Speaker 6: a like all these all the fifty feet balls that
Speaker 6: he's getting, I'm getting like, uh, that's what I try
Speaker 6: to do, all the all the small things for lively,
Speaker 6: like try to go get eight.
Speaker 5: Office three bounds.
Speaker 6: All those type of energy plays kind of change the
Speaker 6: floor of the game and kind of you know breaks,
Speaker 6: you know the Boston's like no, no, put the pressure
Speaker 6: on them and uh, you know, get a little bit
Speaker 6: more physically, a little more nasty out there and see
Speaker 6: what happens.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, y'all be talking about I got a TV job,
Speaker 1: y'all listening to this man talk. This is this inspired
Speaker 1: to me. This man know everything switching gears a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate your assessment because I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley is reportedly making a decision on the Lakers
Speaker 1: job on Monday, and reportedly he's extremely impressed with the
Speaker 1: Lakers pitch, but also loves what he has built at
Speaker 1: Yukon now as a player that actually played for or
Speaker 1: coach very similar to Dan Hurley, which is like super
Speaker 1: intense by the way, like Is would tell us like,
Speaker 1: you suck at basketball, like Draymond you stink, you suck,
Speaker 1: Your mother could play better than you, Like.
Speaker 3: Is what say those types of things to us?
Speaker 1: And when I got to the NBA, a couple of
Speaker 1: times Is looked at There was a couple of times
Speaker 1: that he looked at NBA jobs, and I remember specifically
Speaker 1: he was looking at the Calves job and when I
Speaker 1: was when I was in college.
Speaker 3: And he didn't know whether Lebron was coming back or not,
Speaker 3: and he stayed. But then he was.
Speaker 1: Looking at the Calves job again when Bline took it,
Speaker 1: and I told he Is, I said, something as simple
Speaker 1: as the way God's dressing the NBA would bother you.
Speaker 1: And you can't tell the guy that's making thirty million
Speaker 1: dollars he sucked, Like it's just gonna be hard for
Speaker 1: you to do that.
Speaker 3: I'd much rather you stab Missians.
Speaker 1: They now selfishly I wanted him to stab Mishis, but
Speaker 1: also me having his best interest, just like he's always
Speaker 1: had my best interest to this day. No matter what happens,
Speaker 1: if anything goes right or wrong, I know I.
Speaker 3: Can turn to him. Right.
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley has that same style. I watch him with
Speaker 1: his players and it's crazy. Do you think that his
Speaker 1: intense style could translate to an NBA coach?
Speaker 5: Uh? I would?
Speaker 6: He would have to adjust, Like, you just can't be
Speaker 6: that intense all the time and in the NBA locker room.
Speaker 6: So I would say no, But no, he's a great coach.
Speaker 6: I know he can adjust, but it's definitely gonna be
Speaker 6: an adjustment. You can't come in for a two gs
Speaker 6: and be that intense, uh, because you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5: I want to say, you would lose the locker room.
Speaker 5: But at some point they're gonna.
Speaker 6: Tune you out if you're just always yelling, if you're
Speaker 6: always in people's face, if you're over coaching. Sometimes gods
Speaker 6: just like to figure out as a We gotta figure
Speaker 6: out as a unit sometimes, or sometimes it needs to
Speaker 6: be collaborative, like our film sessions. You you might take
Speaker 6: over one day or Chris Paul might take over, or
Speaker 6: STEP's gonna have something to say that that day. So
Speaker 6: you can't just be a dictator in the locker room
Speaker 6: or I would not. That's not to call him one,
Speaker 6: but intensity you know, I can definitely make our our
Speaker 6: team so special or our locker room is just the
Speaker 6: joy and to know how to balance it out. So
Speaker 6: off the off the top of my head, I would
Speaker 6: say no, uh, just because you know, it's a lot
Speaker 6: of different personalities in the uh, in the in the
Speaker 6: NBA locker room and college you kind of kind of
Speaker 6: fall into place. In the NBA you don't have to uh,
Speaker 6: you know, you you want guys to buy in. But no, no,
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, we all grown men,
Speaker 6: so peop don't like and shown up in front of
Speaker 6: people for in the game. So it's a it's a
Speaker 6: fine line between the tents and getting the barrass.
Speaker 5: So it's like, all right, you got to figure that
Speaker 5: to how to walk back.
Speaker 3: So I agree, I agree. I think it's go ahead.
Speaker 5: You now how you feel about playing for Izzo as
Speaker 5: how you.
Speaker 1: Are now, Like I love Isoe to death, if Isoe said,
Speaker 1: if it is said, some of the things to me
Speaker 1: today that he said to me when I was twenty,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't work.
Speaker 3: It just wouldn't work, but it wouldn't it would not work.
Speaker 3: And I'm so.
Speaker 1: Happy is stay at Michigan State, because hey, I would
Speaker 1: hate for somebody to try to take a hit out
Speaker 1: of his legacy because it didn't work, Like it's hard
Speaker 1: to coach the NBA, man like by the way, Darvin
Speaker 1: Ham had very two successful seasons and got fired, like
Speaker 1: it is very hard to coach in the NBA. So I
Speaker 1: would hate to see his legacy impacted like that. But
Speaker 1: also there's just some things you can't say to me
Speaker 1: at thirty four that you would have said to me
Speaker 1: at nineteen, and so he'd have to adjust him. By
Speaker 1: the way, Billy Donovan was much like it, right, Like
Speaker 1: they were much like the same person.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's made of work.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say he's had the best coaching career
Speaker 1: in the NBA, but he's been a good NBA coach.
Speaker 5: And so your coach, you're doing good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like right like, so you.
Speaker 1: Know it could help and I understand that, but I
Speaker 1: agree that style, that particular style, if he gonna take
Speaker 1: that style, right You're not gonna go in there and
Speaker 1: tell Lebron Lebron joab it ain't working. So that's my
Speaker 1: take on that. But I do got one more question
Speaker 1: for you if and by the way, before I ask
Speaker 1: the question, there's also a thing when college coaches are like,
Speaker 1: you go on the campus, it's on the man, right,
Speaker 1: you go on Yukon on campus. I only what's his name,
Speaker 1: Stephan Stefan Castle And what was the big kid name Clinican,
Speaker 1: like Donovan Clinican or something Clinican. Yeah, something like Clinging
Speaker 1: Clinging Clinican. No disrespect to him, but like they're not
Speaker 1: the man on campus. Dann Hurley's the.
Speaker 3: Man on campus. Right in the NBA, Darren Hurley, you
Speaker 3: only get blamed and you don't you don't get credit.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a totally different thing for
Speaker 1: coaches to have to accept as well, And like how
Speaker 1: does his ego take that? Like, if you get the
Speaker 1: Lakers job, brother, you like seventh on the total pole
Speaker 1: of the most important people who went the Lakers, You're
Speaker 1: not number one, And so that's a different thing in
Speaker 1: saying that, do you think the Lakers hiring Dan Hurley
Speaker 1: makes them a championship contender next year.
Speaker 6: Uh, I'm gonna ask you a question. Were they championship
Speaker 6: contender this year?
Speaker 3: They were not?
Speaker 6: Then, I think just changing the coach, didn't know. All
Speaker 6: they do is change the coach. I don't think that
Speaker 6: just puts them into contention. Oh they're gonna have to
Speaker 6: I don't know what they need to add, but they
Speaker 6: have to add something to figure it. I don't think
Speaker 6: it just I don't think Darvienham was the only problem
Speaker 6: for why they didn't win the championship. Facts, so I
Speaker 6: couldn't just say, oh, we changed the coach, now we're
Speaker 6: a champion.
Speaker 5: I don't think it worked like that.
Speaker 3: That's a fact. So I would say, no, I agree
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think, I actually think Darvinham
Speaker 1: was like building and in the right direction. Like they
Speaker 1: ran into a bad matchup for them, which is right.
Speaker 1: They ran into a bad match up which is the Nuggets,
Speaker 1: Like that's the worst team they could have played, because
Speaker 1: that matchup for them just isn't great. But I think
Speaker 1: Darvinham was actually doing a great job. But I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think that makes you a championship contender.
Speaker 1: Just like all things equal, like that team and then
Speaker 1: that coach. I don't think that makes you a championship contender.
Speaker 1: I all suddenn't think Darren Hurley's gonna walk into bed.
Speaker 1: Come on, Lebron, you need to It ain't happening, so
Speaker 1: you know. Nonetheless, I respect the hell out of Dann
Speaker 1: Hurley as a coach. I think he's incredible, comes from
Speaker 1: an incredible pedigree, two time national champion. I got nothing
Speaker 1: but respect for him. But this NBA is different and
Speaker 1: people don't understand it. Before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Last question too, huh, go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 5: He definitely, he definitely can adjust.
Speaker 6: But how long does it take for somebody adjug from
Speaker 6: co do you do it overnight?
Speaker 5: Is it a two year to him? For really to
Speaker 5: figure it out?
Speaker 6: Like you ain't been in an NBA game, how long
Speaker 6: does it take to adjust? That's like another question too.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: And then also if it's a two year adjustment, are
Speaker 1: they waiting past too? Because they got rid of dark
Speaker 1: after two So it's a tough it's a tough thing.
Speaker 1: Last question too, And I gotta ask this. I'd be
Speaker 1: people would fight me if I didn't ask this. Your
Speaker 1: future with the Warriors three million guaranteed eight million salary.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of things going around. Nobody know what
Speaker 1: the hell they're talking about. But just talk to me about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what it's been like for the Warriors with you? Do
Speaker 1: you want to stay with the Warriors? What do you
Speaker 1: see next in your career?
Speaker 3: Uh? Just finish year. It's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Eight, you're eight, You're you just finished your nine.
Speaker 3: We got full pitsion, what's y'all talking about? You better
Speaker 3: act like you know full pension. But talk to me
Speaker 3: about that tune, Like what you know?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What what's next for you? Do you want to be
Speaker 3: with the Warriors? Do you see like? Ah, like it
Speaker 3: didn't finish great for me this year? Like what is
Speaker 3: it for you?
Speaker 5: The ball? Ball isn't in my court.
Speaker 6: I don't have full control over my destiny, so I
Speaker 6: kind of kind of played the weight and game control
Speaker 6: where I can control. I've been here my whole career.
Speaker 6: I don't know nothing else. Uh So, you know, you
Speaker 6: always want to finish what you started and be somewhere
Speaker 6: for the whole career. But I'm been in this business
Speaker 6: long enough I know that's not realistic. Uh So, I'm
Speaker 6: preparing myself for whatever.
Speaker 5: Uh. You know, my family's out here the basement. Great
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 6: They treat me like families I grew up here. So uh,
Speaker 6: I haven't really thought about too far. I'm trying to
Speaker 6: see what they're going to do first before I really
Speaker 6: you know, push the envelope, see what I want to do.
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm just focusing on my game, you know,
Speaker 6: like like you said, the end of the season and
Speaker 6: the best for me.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: But I take pride in adapting and figuring stuff out.
Speaker 5: Uh, So that's my I got a new goal, a
Speaker 5: new new plan.
Speaker 6: I gotta gotta be adapt So I'm looking forward to
Speaker 6: add to my game, adapting to this new NBA uh
Speaker 6: and figuring out and uh. I've been working hard and
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm it'll be a different player next year,
Speaker 6: and that's.
Speaker 5: Always always the goal.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I feel like I conquered my my old my own role,
Speaker 6: so now I got to figure out my new role
Speaker 6: and and take that next step. So uh, that's what
Speaker 6: that's what I've been focusing on. I'm trying to focus
Speaker 6: on my game. And usually when you focus on your
Speaker 6: game and you put in the work, things always work.
Speaker 5: Out for me.
Speaker 6: So, uh, like I said, the ball in my court.
Speaker 6: You know, I've been a warrior for life. Even whatever happens,
Speaker 6: I'm always gonna be a warrior for life. And uh
Speaker 6: so I'm really just waiting to see what what what
Speaker 6: our organization gonna do.
Speaker 1: You are most definitely that, my brother. You have been
Speaker 1: incredible for me in my life. I love you to death.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, I noticed organization and base appreciate you.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the hell anybody's doing quite
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I hope to be there. But
Speaker 1: the saying all of that, as you said number one, again,
Speaker 1: listen to these answers. This man is talking about the
Speaker 1: business of basketball. He's talking about the bass not in
Speaker 1: my court, the boss in their cort.
Speaker 3: But I'm prepared for everything.
Speaker 1: And most importantly what he just said in that astwer,
Speaker 1: which is I said this on the pod, the most
Speaker 1: importantly he just said, I'm adjusting to this new NBA
Speaker 1: because since twenty twenty two, the NBA actually changed a lot.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the average person watching the
Speaker 1: NBA realizes the shift that has happened in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but these shifts happen every so often. And the last
Speaker 1: shift that happened was due to the way Steph Curry
Speaker 1: shot the ball and the way Klay Thompson shot the ball.
Speaker 1: That was the last shift in the NBA. That shift
Speaker 1: is now shifted. And in turn, you saw loom like
Speaker 1: not in the lineup sometimes and then because it shifted,
Speaker 1: And what did he just say, I'm adjusting to this
Speaker 1: new NBA and I'm adding to my game.
Speaker 3: So I'm prepared for that new NBA because most people.
Speaker 1: Can adjust to the new NBA and then they out
Speaker 1: in the year right, And so you're listening to the
Speaker 1: most professional teammate I've ever had in.
Speaker 3: My life, not NBA, not college, not high school.
Speaker 5: Know you the reason I ain't never lay right?
Speaker 3: Why is that.
Speaker 6: The first day of my training head I'm on crutches.
Speaker 6: I pull up to practice like ten thirty, it start
Speaker 6: at eleven. I can't walk. I can't even get on
Speaker 6: the court. I'm not even rehaving at the facility. I
Speaker 6: gotta go somewhere else to rehab. And he come in
Speaker 6: sweating locker room. You just now getting here. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: like I can't do nothing be here. Eight thirty tomorrow
Speaker 6: all right, And ever since then, I've been there at
Speaker 6: a thirty every day. I ain't never late just because
Speaker 6: he told me so, I guess that's the time I'm
Speaker 6: supposed to be here. He probably don't even know if
Speaker 6: you remember that, but I was on crutchy so I'm like,
Speaker 6: whit tripp, And I can't even practice, I can't walk,
Speaker 6: I can't do anything.
Speaker 5: But hey, I'm gonna be here eight thirty. Sit here.
Speaker 3: What that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I've never heard this story, by the way, y'all heard
Speaker 1: it here on the Draymond Green Show, presented to you
Speaker 1: by Hype Rice and Cavan Louie. And I'm honored to
Speaker 1: hear that because over the last two years of my career, well.
Speaker 3: Actually I wasn't late at all. This year.
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed to be around our team last
Speaker 1: year when JP was still on the team, that I
Speaker 1: came to everything.
Speaker 3: Like I was probably late last season.
Speaker 1: Many times, and I just paid a fine because I
Speaker 1: was so embarrassed to like show my face in a
Speaker 1: time where it's like like before everything start, that's when
Speaker 1: everybody likes shooting the shit and like all the conversations.
Speaker 3: I was so embarrassed to show my face.
Speaker 1: During those times that I would time everything up, like
Speaker 1: if we're on the road, I time it up to
Speaker 1: like the minute I need to get there, and if
Speaker 1: the elevator took a little bit longer than they was
Speaker 1: supposed to, I'd be late. Or if I'm leaving my crib,
Speaker 1: which is like seven to eight minutes away.
Speaker 3: From the facility, I time it up to the minute
Speaker 3: of where I need to rise.
Speaker 1: And if the red light right there in front of
Speaker 1: the Giant Stadium Oracle Park, if the red light caught me,
Speaker 1: I'd be two three minutes late, like ah. And so
Speaker 1: one of Steve's rules this year was like, Draymond, don't
Speaker 1: be late. And I'm never a late guy. I was
Speaker 1: never laid in my career, but last year I couldn't
Speaker 1: show my face like before, Like it was just it
Speaker 1: was terrible.
Speaker 3: And so I was happy to be back on time
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 1: I'm also happy to hear that because again, the impact
Speaker 1: that you make on a young guy, and I always
Speaker 1: I've talked about this too, some of these teams not
Speaker 1: having a VET, like the importance of a VET on
Speaker 1: a young player goes way further than their game could
Speaker 1: ever take them.
Speaker 3: And to hear that is an honor to me. I'm
Speaker 3: honored to.
Speaker 1: Have my young brother, my little brother, Cavan Looney tune.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know that my man tune on the show.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother. I hope to be your teammate
Speaker 1: next year. Whether that's you went the Worriors, I went
Speaker 1: to Worris, so we both went to Worris. You know,
Speaker 1: you just never know how these things go. As to say,
Speaker 1: you don't, you just don't know. But nonetheless, whether I'm
Speaker 1: a teammate or not, I love you to death forever.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I am so proud of the career that you've had
Speaker 1: nine years in and three what is it two or
Speaker 1: three hip surgeries in the first two hip surgeries in
Speaker 1: the first year and a half of your career, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a death sentence. That's a bigger death sentence than
Speaker 1: the word tweeter. When I was coming out, there was
Speaker 1: a death sentence. Two hip surgeries is a death sentence.
Speaker 1: And nine years later you're still on the same team.
Speaker 3: You are the.
Speaker 1: Fifth most tenyar player, maybe even less than that now
Speaker 1: because Dame Lena in the NBA today, And to do
Speaker 1: that the way you've had to do it. I got
Speaker 1: nothing but respect for you. I got nothing but love
Speaker 1: for you. I appreciate you coming on the show. I
Speaker 1: want to continue drinking my lobos down here in Cabo
Speaker 1: as I've been doing. But I love you to death.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you. My brother appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: My mom is super excited that I'm on the show.
Speaker 6: He said, when are you gonna get on this show?
Speaker 6: I said, I don't know. Waiting on the advice, so
Speaker 6: I know you're gonna be watching it and saying, she
Speaker 6: love you just as much.
Speaker 1: Suit, Miss Victoria Lodi. We love you to death. We
Speaker 1: show love you, pops much love. That's a rap from
Speaker 1: this episode of The Draymond Green Show. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot on my lobos and I'm gonna continue to
Speaker 1: enjoy my vacation.
Speaker 3: But I love y'all. That's a rap. Peace,