WEBVTT - Infiltrated w/ Maria Thayer

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies these episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories, done done.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Welcome to That's Messed Up an SVU podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>am Lisa and I am Kara.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our podcast where we talk about Law and

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<v Speaker 1>Order SVU, the true crimes that the episodes are based on,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked to an amazing guest from the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>But first we like to catch up and chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I have did you see the breaking got Mic

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki Glazer news.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So, a comedian that we both know, texted me

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<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta. He texts at me and was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, got Mic like pinched these two Nikki Glazer jokes.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like really, I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like wondering how specific it was and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything, but I haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's not too It is frame by frame throughout

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<v Speaker 2>multiple roasts, like like the side by sides, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa She like straight up just admitted it. Got Mack.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a quote being like, yeah, I just reworked them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh whoa, Yeah, so you just didn't trust the source that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, if the source was Sometimes I think I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe it was just like a similar Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe it was like a similar premise or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I honestly have not seen a moment of it

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<v Speaker 1>of the roast or the side by sides or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had gotten wind of this possible controversy.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's wild too, is she also still did bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Like she wasn't in the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the jokes were good, but you could tell,

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<v Speaker 2>like the it was off. And now it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me because she it wasn't from her. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like ripped off. And then everyone online that wants to

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly defend got mick when it's like, no, you stole

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<v Speaker 2>a comics material blatantly.

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<v Speaker 4>But people are like, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>All those people, all of them got jokes written, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't write those jokes.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone helped them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, yeah, when you hire someone to help you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's different than watching all of her roasts.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's surprising from an all, Maybe she could

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady roast, like the Tom Brady roast really blew

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<v Speaker 2>Nicky up to be like pretty huge.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this was definitely shot before that. So God,

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't have known that that was gonna happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>geez uh right, I actually got to I'm actually working

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit for Drug Race again, doing a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of little things here and there, and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>sit in on the upcoming season's roast and it is

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<v Speaker 1>funny and and I don't think anybody stole anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were very funny. They were really cracking me up. Yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this is thrilling. I forgot that you would have the

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<v Speaker 1>inside scoop on the Who's Who. Yeah, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go right now actually because I'm leaving right after this

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<v Speaker 1>recording to go to set there for but that's to

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<v Speaker 1>work on something for the next All Stars. They're always

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<v Speaker 1>in production, baby like SVU, a well oiled machine moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, I am hoping this All Stars has

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<v Speaker 2>a little more stakes. This is ridiculous. I am like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, case in point, I don't think I've caught

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<v Speaker 1>an episode since since Snatchler of Love or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't. I'm behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like two behind because well, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>traveling and stuff, so I'm like two behind.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>I also actually watched I started watching Trixy's Max show,

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<v Speaker 2>like Hotel Trixyte well because we always talk about like

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<v Speaker 2>where does Trixie live? Where does what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're remodeling her home. Oh, so we do get

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<v Speaker 2>to see the home and so that's like pretty huge

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<v Speaker 2>like side and we talk about it so much.

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<v Speaker 4>But also I'm really proud of Trixy. She's going on

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<v Speaker 4>a four month.

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<v Speaker 2>Break, oh, off social media, off YouTube, off podcast, off everything.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no drag for at least four months. And she

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<v Speaker 2>said she's not coming back to this intense city ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of a big through line on this

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<v Speaker 2>Max show. It's like she's moving in with David the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in seven years, and it's very much like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm prioritizing our life. The drag is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the condo, Like this is gonna be about like us,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm really excited for Tricksy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, I was gonna say, because on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod her and David are already living together. This

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<v Speaker 1>must be be from because like before they were.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, they probably filmed it and now it's coming out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got my son potty training this week for

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<v Speaker 1>take two. Everybody, we're back at it, potty training to

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<v Speaker 1>Electric Bugaloo. And boy am I excited that I get

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work and be out of the house

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<v Speaker 1>today so that Jared can handle it. And yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>they just freeball, right, that's what happens. They're just out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but now he he is free balling. But now he's

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<v Speaker 1>like been pretty good because he's older now and so

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to wear pants. Yesterday only one accident and

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<v Speaker 1>it was with it was with Jared. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pretty good at setting an alarm and getting

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<v Speaker 1>his little butt on the on the toilet. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking stressful, man. It's the worst part. It's the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing of doing, of doing this whole kid thing is

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that they put their pee and poop in

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<v Speaker 1>the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that seems like a lot of years of that,

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<v Speaker 2>like too much because then you have to wipe their

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<v Speaker 2>butt for so long too.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it depends.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie was so good so quickly immediately sleeping through the night.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me three days, and then Oscar is my

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<v Speaker 1>penance for being able to have an easy first one.

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<v Speaker 4>As I said erroneously, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Trick baby, which you were not allowed to say anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because now I know from this show is a baby

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<v Speaker 1>that a sex worker has with one of her clients.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not how I'm referring to Rosie. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of body trading, she's a trick baby. She tricked

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<v Speaker 1>me into thinking it was easy and it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>But but don't you still have to wipe her butt? No?

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<v Speaker 2>She does this out and about that's out there wiping

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<v Speaker 2>her ass. Because when I babysat, these kids were bending

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<v Speaker 2>over and it was one of my least part favorite

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the job. I would say, is just like

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<v Speaker 2>wiping like five six year olds bent over?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean honestly, honestly, I babysat for a kid who

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<v Speaker 1>would go, can you like? It took him forty five

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the bathroom every time for poop, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would sit on the toilet completely naked, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go, can you come in here and pull it out?

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<v Speaker 1>And I texted his mom once and said, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>me to come and pull his poop out of his butt,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, you don't have to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I mean, I know, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>calling to let you know that I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I should have given a trigger warning before

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<v Speaker 1>I started talking about all this.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, I don't think this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first time we've talked about this on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I think I've brought it up before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, because that's kind of one of my

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god babysitting moments. Another one was when a

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<v Speaker 1>family asked me to feed a five year old, like

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<v Speaker 1>full kindergartener while he watched the iPad, like to spoon

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<v Speaker 1>feed him, and I was like, that's I can't do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, she goes just while he's watching

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<v Speaker 1>the iPad and I was like, no, he can eat. No, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that to my three year old, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for grandparents. Like my sister's kids would sit on

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<v Speaker 2>the couch and my mom would feed them soup. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>but that's because this that's just her love language. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mom actually, before we were recorded last time, a

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<v Speaker 2>bit like the Long Day my mom made like mashed

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<v Speaker 2>potatoes and these little like I don't know, like wieners.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not hot dogs, they're not sausages. But it's an

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<v Speaker 2>encase meat and I'll find a better name for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like it's more white, it's lighter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even eat me. I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to like get something out of you, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what is this knee hot dog?

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<v Speaker 4>My parents buy?

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<v Speaker 2>So whatever, I ate it, Thank you, thanks for my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a weird breakfast, but I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>So then but I'm I was talking to my sister

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, you know, it's really difficult. Mom takes

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<v Speaker 2>food so personally, like if you're just not that hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't finish, or you don't need a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>like she takes it as a personal offense. And she goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she called me after the mashed potatoes and she complained

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<v Speaker 2>that I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't need enough of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like and then my sister to be like

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<v Speaker 2>it's eleven am, Like I bet she ate as much

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<v Speaker 2>mashed potatoes as she could. But that's like in my

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<v Speaker 2>head in front of her Room'm like I just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just too much pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're being monitored. Yeah, like you just know

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<v Speaker 1>when you're eating, you're being watched.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they can't get to me. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like a grown up. But it is just like and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna change, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>But this time she could. She kept be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I didn't even cook enough. And I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>cooked enough.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually preferred to have some pizza on a like

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<v Speaker 2>to chill out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just too much. Got oh, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, we were talking about this before and I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't had any run ins. But wow, did I get

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<v Speaker 2>face to face with a lot of cicadas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yeah, they have went to the Cicada country.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at the pool, flying into our heads, on

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<v Speaker 2>our towels, on the lifeguard's hats, like they just sit

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<v Speaker 2>on you, like you have to take them or I

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<v Speaker 2>would feel something and look down and a cicada was

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<v Speaker 2>on me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my, oh my god. And then at the mall.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to my childhood moll and I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't been there in a few years because so

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<v Speaker 2>many different stores I was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, they switched the Awnings. She was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like it was at one point.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's so many changes in the store, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in the mall, and a lot of them were fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to Uncle Julio's I don't know whatever. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a Martoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, it's like a mall Mexican joint.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it. It's called chee cheese back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but this is like I remember there one being

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, so maybe a local franchise. I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of changes. But then in the corner there,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to say it, Talbots. Talbots, Yeah, Talbots,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Talbots. It's still surviving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, who is going to Talbot's And she goes, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes. The older women of Skokie like that is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just consistently going. And I go, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows, maybe we'll be there one day. And my

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<v Speaker 2>sister turned to me in all seriousness and said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>TJ mack till I die.

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<v Speaker 4>Put it on a shirt. That is so good. That

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<v Speaker 4>is so good, and that's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>You and your sister are never going to wear Talbots.

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<v Speaker 1>You're never going to wear Talbots. I would put absolute

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<v Speaker 1>money on it that there's not gonna be a time

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<v Speaker 1>you could be ninety years old in a wheelchair going

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<v Speaker 1>into Talbots and you're gonna go none of this is

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Get me out of here, thank you, And

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna tell you you're gonna tell the nurse that's

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<v Speaker 1>pushing you to wheel.

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<v Speaker 4>You around and get you the fuck out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I don't know why you're taking away the my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the usage of my legs.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't. I said, look, you were not in

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<v Speaker 4>my mine.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ninety seven, and you're just in a wheelchair because

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<v Speaker 1>the malls are big, not you can't walk.

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<v Speaker 4>Malls are big.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is in her seventies and she takes a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair at the airport because the airports are just too big.

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<v Speaker 1>But she gets so dramatic. No, she's so dramatic. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>were you in the car with me that time that

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<v Speaker 1>she called me and was crying on speakerphone or was

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<v Speaker 1>that a different friend? No, but no, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I was with you or not.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Rachel. It was Rachel. It was Rachel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and she was like, I left my laptop on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane and like had to get wheeled backed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, please, but back to Talbots. My mother.

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<v Speaker 1>The underneath our you know, Jewish Christmas tree for years

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<v Speaker 1>was just red boxes because my dad would go on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve when everything was marked down and buy my

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<v Speaker 1>mom all her presence at Talbots, like a true cheap ass.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my mom's been a big Talbots person forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent my whole life going in there to find

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<v Speaker 1>gifts for her. And I can say with certainty, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there is not one sweater. There is not one sweater

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<v Speaker 1>that I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking through it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I see one dress, but it's like two feet too long,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's actually a chic.

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<v Speaker 2>Pattern, and I'm like, we gotta, we gotta chop all

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<v Speaker 2>out of it off. And then I see a pant

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I guess if I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican resort, Yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Still think you'd try it on and it would not

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<v Speaker 4>be what you had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's just certain Yeah, there's just certain brands that

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't You're not gonna I'm not gonna catch

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<v Speaker 1>you in a cold water creek. I'm not gonna cut

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<v Speaker 1>you into j Jill. No, like it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, huge news.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a Louis Vuitton at the Old Orchard mall now,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's pretty That's the thing is that the malls

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<v Speaker 2>are like I mean, the American has always been a

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<v Speaker 2>nice mall, but like now it's like even some of

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<v Speaker 2>the mid level places, like the Madewell's gone now it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Gucci, like you know, oh no, no, there's still

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<v Speaker 2>a made well, there's still a gap, there's still a Claire's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's that ship's going out of the Americana. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say stuff going into malls is like

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<v Speaker 1>a newer thing. Like right, growing up, there was never

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<v Speaker 1>a Prada or a Louis Vuitton in a mall that

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<v Speaker 1>I where I was.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're right, but Old Orchard we got Tiffany's.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was like in junior high, I feel which

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<v Speaker 2>is all a Gloomingdale Sacks.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right, it wasn't like that kind of a break.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Guess, which is definitely not Prada.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a triangle, but it's not Brada.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had this like aquamarine, fucking not aquar like

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<v Speaker 2>a bright blue tube top from guests.

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<v Speaker 4>That I fucking loved. Oh my god, I loved. I

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<v Speaker 4>wore it. I wore it down. I mean, I love

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<v Speaker 4>our mall. I really love Old Orchard Mall.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about an outdoor mall that is, Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in La, that's what's I was an indoor Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, psychotagic.

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<v Speaker 1>So in so in the winter, are people just like

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<v Speaker 1>bundled up bouncing from store to store.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you're more like task based, You're just like I

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to Marshall Fields. And you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>my theory in life is once Marshall Fields closed, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when class died. That's when our culture changed for the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the closing of Marshall Fields was the

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<v Speaker 2>end of an era of Like that's when people started

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<v Speaker 2>wearing sweatpants, Like I something about Marshall Fields to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think what Marshall Fields is. It was just gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like naw in its place.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fucking Macy's in the mall. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm googling it, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was an okay, so it is Chicago was

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<v Speaker 2>It's It was an upscale department store in Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was It closed in two thousand and six and

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<v Speaker 2>it still hurts me, but it is. Yeah, the recession

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<v Speaker 2>happened right after that was like the end of an era.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, yeah, but they had they had Frango mins,

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<v Speaker 2>they had really delicious like mint melt aways. But my

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<v Speaker 2>mom her company for Christmas, because Christmas is used to

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<v Speaker 2>be cool, they would get gifts and big parties.

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<v Speaker 4>But we would get like.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful gift certificates to Marshall Fields and they were goldlined

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just like I loved, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>get at sports sack bag usually that's like what I

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<v Speaker 2>would kind of want from Oh oh, all my Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>All my Arthur's stuffed animals came from the lower level.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids department, Like Marshall Fields just was like a

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<v Speaker 2>class niced apartment store that I really loved and I

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<v Speaker 2>love the aesthetics. And the one downtown was known for

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<v Speaker 2>the window displays.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder, like how much longer we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>with Macy's and a bunch of these places like the

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<v Speaker 1>one in the the one in the mall, not like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the mall that I'm talking about near the

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<v Speaker 1>big with the Big Target and the Chuck e Cheese

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<v Speaker 1>near me. The Macy's closed a few months ago, liquidated,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing mattresses away. Uh, And I'm like, how much longer

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<v Speaker 1>do we have with these big department stores? Jac Penny,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is out of business. Did you have Lord

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<v Speaker 1>and Taylor? Yeah, at Old Orchard Mall? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Gone still there, No, of course it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord and Taylor and the Off we had like an

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<v Speaker 2>Off Sacks off fifth.

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<v Speaker 4>Off fifth, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had like a Chiller Sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, yeah, a Nordstrum rackety rack, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>process the street, Okay, that's okay. And this Old Orchard

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<v Speaker 1>Mall is in Skokie, Yeah, it's a Pride and Joy.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, well, now it's like a Westfield, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll obviously call it George till I die. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>two movie theaters a pop Bellies, the Barnes and Nobles,

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<v Speaker 2>where I spent most of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, two movie theaters. Honestly, Burbank, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>There's four AMC's at Caddy corner from each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can never find where I'm trying to go and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always late.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm as paranoid. Well you're late for different reasons too.

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<v Speaker 2>You really put it to the limits.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I do you see the limits? I check Google Maps

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<v Speaker 4>and I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I can leave it exactly this time to get there

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<v Speaker 1>right at the moment that it starts.

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<v Speaker 4>I am, I'm bad, but I'm I tolerate you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if Marshall Fields was a part of your life,

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<v Speaker 2>please let me know. And I want to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also wanted to say Macy's is trash because like

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<v Speaker 2>the nice ones you're going for like a nord Strum,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going for something the Macy's. Why wouldn't you just

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<v Speaker 2>go to Zara? Why wouldn't you go to H and M?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that price pot I'm talking more like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, Zor didn't exist, like when I was growing up, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, sure, I just mean why Macy's would be dying out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that price point. I would rather go on

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<v Speaker 2>Asos or like Revolve. I don't know, it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>the appeal of that is not the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomingdale's where it's like nicer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I think I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because they do deals with like certain like

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Kors or like they'll do deals with like certain designers,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe if you're looking for that specific designer, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Macy's.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I do miss malls, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just reminded me. When I go home in August, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to my old mall. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been there in years. They shot the movie's different. They

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<v Speaker 1>shot the movie Scenes from a Mall at my mall

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<v Speaker 1>with It's a Woody Allen movie with Bette Midler.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually never seen a Woody Allen movie except for

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jasmine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what, I think I've only seen like

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<v Speaker 1>one of maybe match Point was that a Woody Allen

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<v Speaker 1>movie with Scarlett Johansson. They play tennis or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've seen that one. And then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>really haven't seen a lot of Woody Allen at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just a big I hate to correct you, Cara,

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<v Speaker 5>but Scenes from a Mall is a Paul Mazerski film.

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<v Speaker 5>It stars Woody Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, Woody Allen's in it. Thank you for letting

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<v Speaker 1>me know. But it is a what Allen vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>He is in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's him and Bemuler are like married and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>wandering around them all and it's at my mall.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I actually met people, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the road and I go had some

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.119
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans Kansas City time, and I'd like to say,

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.240
<v Speaker 2>people like our long intros and they're actually begging for more.

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<v Speaker 2>And they told me to tell Casey to shove it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they said, Ah, put the flag down.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we said, get Casey to have another flag,

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<v Speaker 2>is what they say.

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<v Speaker 4>But then we get comments.

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<v Speaker 1>We get comments sometimes on like Spotify or whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>are like why am I listening to twenty minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>useless chit chat before they get to the point, like

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<v Speaker 1>about reality shows I don't even watch, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you're getting this for free?

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<v Speaker 4>Shut the fuck up, Like I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also like you could fast forward quietly and

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<v Speaker 2>not tell anyone. But also, and I don't care. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not catering to you. I'm going to cater to the

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<v Speaker 2>girl that told me that she likes it. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, that likes us and what we have

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<v Speaker 2>to say I'm not kid'll say.

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<v Speaker 5>When you posted about my birthday, everybody commented Casey, stop

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<v Speaker 5>waving the flag, let them talk.

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<v Speaker 4>So I feel like people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for taking the opportunity of Casey's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>to lecture about making us stop. And he doesn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>us to stop. He simply waves the flag. We do

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<v Speaker 1>keep going much most of the time past what he says,

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<v Speaker 1>so he is really not like It's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>waving his hands and yelling at us. It's a cutey

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<v Speaker 1>little flag. But with that said, maybe we should get started.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great episode for you guys today, as always,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're covering infiltrated Season eight, episode six, Halloween premieres

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<v Speaker 1>on Halloween. Pretty cool, a favorite holiday of Liza and mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, we see at first, a blonde woman

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street. She's confident, she's cool, she's bopping along,

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<v Speaker 1>she's swiping her way into an ATM vestibule, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is ready to kick off her night, is what I

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<v Speaker 1>originally thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Later we find out it's four in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe she's on coke, but she's very

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<v Speaker 1>hyped and ready to get some cash out at four

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. She's wearing headphones and singing like why

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do me? Like that some made up song

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<v Speaker 1>that she's singing, and then she punches in her pin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an extremely dark ATM vestibule, Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>a victim blame, but like I would not go into

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<v Speaker 1>this ATM mistibule. There's no light in it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and acting like it's kind of like a fun like

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<v Speaker 1>moment with like the music.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she's waiting for her cash and you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's one of these little ATM mirrors up at the

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<v Speaker 1>top that is specifically for you to notice if someone

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<v Speaker 1>is like coming up behind you at the ATM and

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror we got it. We see it a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in a fucking ski mask and she gasps as

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<v Speaker 1>like he attacks her, and then we cut to security

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<v Speaker 1>camera footage of the attack. As Stabler's voice comes on

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<v Speaker 1>narrating it. He's like Peter lofis Blitz attacked Chelsea Arndale

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<v Speaker 1>at four h two. He brutalized her for five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty seven seconds, broke her arm, her deboke, three

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<v Speaker 1>bones in her face. And then we see Chelsea sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom as this is being explained. She still

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<v Speaker 1>has a cut on her face, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>one of these ways of which the show exaggerates how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly things go to trial, Like I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>would still be healing by the time this goes.

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<v Speaker 4>To trial, like fans. So her hair is like so

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<v Speaker 4>of this hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it is absolutely two thousand and six hair.

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<v Speaker 2>The like flat like straightened into curlings like fair Fassip,

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<v Speaker 2>but short and.

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<v Speaker 1>Different super but like none of the body of Fara

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<v Speaker 1>Faucet like straight. He has like little wing tips on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of every layer and very many layers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like so two thousand and six, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom like obviously looking traumatized, and it's better

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<v Speaker 1>TV to have her still have a cut on her face.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, but Stabler continues that the purp also raped her,

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<v Speaker 1>left her naked and semi conscious and bleeding profusely on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. And then our girl, Casey Novak is there

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<v Speaker 1>asking if the defendant has an alibi for the night

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<v Speaker 1>of the attack. Stabler says nah, and Casey rests, and now,

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<v Speaker 1>uh oh, it's Roger Kressler aka the late Great ned

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenberg for the defense. We don't like to see him

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<v Speaker 1>because he is good at his job, and he's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the tape is disturbing, but I don't see my.

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<v Speaker 4>Clients in the face as much asshole energy.

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<v Speaker 2>He is good at his job and he does things

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<v Speaker 2>that mean we don't agree with, but he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the disgust that like a Buchanan or right right Oil

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<v Speaker 2>slickare Sidney Lauper's husband, Like those guys make me so mad,

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<v Speaker 2>even Elizabeth Marvel. But he, I don't know. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>because his suits are ill fitting. I think maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. I mean he's usually

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<v Speaker 2>consulted by it. Yes, exactly. There's something about him. He

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of just like.

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<v Speaker 1>A good lord and he does like know the law,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not I wouldn't say, like the way that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these gross defense attorneys that we hate,

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<v Speaker 1>the like badger a witness into saying something that didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>or just try to confuse them and fuck with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really feel like I see Kressler do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just kind of like, hey, so yeah, this video

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<v Speaker 1>is very disturbing, but I don't see my client's face

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Do you see my client's face in it?

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<v Speaker 1>And Stabler's like, yeah, we got this fox DNA. Like

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he wore a ski mask. It doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 1>can like commit crimes. And they're like, oh did you

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<v Speaker 1>He's like did you get it from the rape kit?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, Sabler goes, no, I guess this guy

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<v Speaker 1>has a sexual dysfunction that renders him unable to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get hard or jizz. And Kresler is like really running

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<v Speaker 1>with this shit and he's like okay, so like where

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<v Speaker 1>is the DNA from? Then? And it was actually found

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<v Speaker 1>from gum that this loser spit out at the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kresler calls it the smoking gum, and Sabler says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't find it. My partner, Well, my partner at

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<v Speaker 1>the time found it. And he's talking about Benson because

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<v Speaker 1>we are in Danny Beck country right now, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is this part of the season is where Benson Mrsca

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<v Speaker 1>Harkata has left to go have her baby, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we're in we're in Danny Beck territory, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>I believe her first episode back. Kressler brings up Benson's

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<v Speaker 1>prior relationship with the defendant and Ben and Stabler's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she arrested him five years ago for acquaintance rape.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why we have his DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Kresler goes and that's why she had access

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he is in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Being more dickish than he normally is because he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Benson is setting up a random acquaintance rapist from

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago to do its investor ATM Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, I don't know what these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are just like doing it for the money, because this

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<v Speaker 1>feels like you fucking know Olivia Benson didn't plant any

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<v Speaker 1>chewing gum, dude. So then Kressler calls Olivia Benson and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the room looks awkward and they look to

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<v Speaker 1>the doors of the courtroom. Dot dot dot cut to

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<v Speaker 1>a nighttime scene. We're at a protest where people are chanting.

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<v Speaker 1>The sheriff's office has been called by a man who

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<v Speaker 1>seems very upset that they're on his property. The crowd

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<v Speaker 1>is chanting, no more clearcuts, no more lies, stop committing

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<v Speaker 1>eco side.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lumber place. And then a guy named t

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<v Speaker 1>Bone is there yelling that Lessinger Lumbers uses WMDs and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not weapons of mass descript destruction, it's weapons of

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<v Speaker 1>mass deforestation.

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<v Speaker 4>So these protesters are.

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<v Speaker 1>There to protect the trees like the lorax, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's department is like, okay, scram kids, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>So we see like a pretty redhead saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>a state for us. We have a right to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I recognize this person immediately as Maria Thayer, who

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<v Speaker 1>is Tammy Tamila Little Nut from Strangers with Candy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite shows. Of all time, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's also in a ton of shit. She's working lady.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we see Olivia Benson with what I consider

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<v Speaker 1>to be her best hair of the entire series. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's like gorgeous highlights, tossled bangs. This does

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<v Speaker 1>not look like someone who screams about trees and the

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<v Speaker 1>dead of night.

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<v Speaker 4>But her hair looks amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm realizing her hair probably looks amazing because she

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<v Speaker 1>was on fucking prenatal vitamins. If she has a newborn.

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<v Speaker 1>My hair looked so fucking good. And then cut to

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<v Speaker 1>a year later, gone out in clumps, not doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I ask it to. So yeah, I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>her hair looks super gorgeous. Also the color gorgeous, the

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<v Speaker 1>tossled bang, we love it. If you'll recall the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of this season, season eight, is called Informed, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is where we first meet this eco terrorist group

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<v Speaker 1>called Earth Defenders group. Remember there's like a girl named

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee I think, who is raped and she's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the group, And then you know, this is the episode

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<v Speaker 1>where Marcia gay Hard in his back as Dana Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets her in stable or get the big

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<v Speaker 1>explosion that like throws them back when they're outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, and so Benson has now infiltrated the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Drink if you're not driving your car right now, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're not at work or caring for a child. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you're caring for a child, have a drink. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so drink most jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can drink unless you're building bridges a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor like.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If I went to teach in my bank, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a beer at lunch. Even if a teach traded beer

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<v Speaker 2>at lunch, I wouldn't be pissed.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't be pissed. But I think there are rules.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there are if you leave for lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder I'll ask my sister and be like, would

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<v Speaker 1>you get in trouble if you had a.

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<v Speaker 4>Beer at lunch? Like is there something in your contract

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<v Speaker 4>about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because now I really want to know anyway, So I

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<v Speaker 1>bet it would make teaching kids a lot more fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So she is persephone James. Okay, this is Benson is

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<v Speaker 1>undercover as persephone James eco eco activist.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to infiltrate this group. The cops try to break

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<v Speaker 4>it up.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them grabs Maria theayre and she yells, get

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<v Speaker 1>away from me, pervert, and this activates t Bone, and

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<v Speaker 1>t Bone hits a cop and then this cop just

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<v Speaker 1>starts like copping.

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<v Speaker 4>He's beating the shit out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of t Bone, and Benson's like, all right, stop stop,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not resisting, and then she gets knocked the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>out by this cop and the scene fades to black

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<v Speaker 1>on her beautiful face lying on the ground, passed out,

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out, and then we're at the credits. So now

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<v Speaker 1>Act one, Casey's entering judges chambers with Eisenberg making him

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<v Speaker 1>pay for his little calling Olivia stunt. She's like, she

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<v Speaker 1>was not on the witness list and he wasn't even up.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that means it wasn't his turn, Like I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what that means. But he accuses

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<v Speaker 1>Casey of hiding an exculpatory witness, and then she tells

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<v Speaker 1>the judge that Kresler is trying to do courtroom stunts

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<v Speaker 1>one oh one. Crestler's like, h cops do plant shit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true. But Novak calls out, what we just said,

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious not Olivia Benson. She's a decorated detective with

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<v Speaker 1>a spotless record, and he's like, well, producer to testify

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<v Speaker 1>the chain of custody.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this whole plot kind of hinges on that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, so Olivia's gonna come and go. I found

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<v Speaker 1>the gum and the gum went into a bag, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's like the gum is I found the gum the

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<v Speaker 1>right way? And then that's it. Like I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he's hoping she's not going to show up. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is the whole thing is that she's totally unavailable.

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<v Speaker 1>He obviously knows she's unavailable because he's been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>serve her for a month. And he's like, well, she's

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<v Speaker 1>either vanished or they're hiding her. And the Judge's like,

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<v Speaker 1>well where is she? And Novak's like, all I know

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<v Speaker 1>is she's working a classified off with the Feds for

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<v Speaker 1>the past five weeks and it's possibly out of state.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to Walton County, Oregon, where Benson is sleeping.

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<v Speaker 4>And going Elliott, Elliott over and over and this must

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<v Speaker 4>just be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this must literally make the benchler people like cream

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<v Speaker 1>their pants because they it's very sexual. She's lying, she's sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>going Elliott Elliott, and it does seem like a sex dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and Maria Thayer, whose name is Hope in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Hey, who the fuck is Elliott? And then

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia wakes up and Hope, it's like, you've been mumbling

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<v Speaker 1>the name Elliott all night and it's like, wow, girl

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<v Speaker 1>all night, like just yell at Like okay. Olivia realizes

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<v Speaker 1>she's cuffed to the bed and Hope fills her in

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<v Speaker 1>that they're in the County Hospital prison ward and that

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<v Speaker 1>she got punched out by a cop, and we see

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<v Speaker 1>Hope has her leg in the cast like, and Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>is like, did they break your leg?

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<v Speaker 4>And she's like, well yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she's like, well, like I was trying to make

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>a run for it and then I twisted my foot

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in a gopher hole and I snapped my ankle. And

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>then Benson starts laughing, and it's a real belly laugh

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.959
<v Speaker 1>from Benson that I feel we never see, like I can't.

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.719
<v Speaker 1>She maybe goes at like a munch joke, but like

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I never see her really really laugh at anything, and

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>she's just kind of like, it's just ironic that you

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>try to save the planet and then the planet fucked

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you and Hope is like, that is not funny, and

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I am blaming the greedy earth raping lumber company and

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the police that they've bought off for my injury humorless, yes,

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>no sense of humor, And Hope says you should sue

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>them for police brutality. But Benson is like, what, well,

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>t Bone hit the cop first. My thing was an accident,

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and Hope's like, stop defending those fascists and Benson's like, oh, yeah,

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you're not a cop, Like get back into character. She's like, sorry,

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm concussed and it's making me love cops, and so

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>she's like back to business.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Did I yell out anything else during my hospital sex dreams?

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And she's like nope, just saw that horny Elliot stuff,

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and then she goes spill who is he? And Benson

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>goes nobody and then she's like, well it doesn't sound

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like nobody and starts like imitating her, being like Eliot

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Eliot and teasing her. So now we cut to Novak

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>rushing into the precinct looking for Elliot as well. Everyone's

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>got Elliot on the brain, but he's on a call

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>with Beck like they went out to investigate something, and

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Novak is like, well, I'm actually looking for Live and

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Kraign's like, well, he doesn't know where Live is and

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>neither do I, and Munch is like, Munch makes a

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>joke that goes well. They say she's out having my

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>love child and honestly, like he wishes, and Novak is like,

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>fuck off, Munch. I gotta find her or I'm gonna

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>get a mistrail in my rape case. She's like, I

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>got blindsided because Stabler was the arresting office. I didn't

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>think LIB would be called. And now Craigan is like, well,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>deal with it, and Novak is like, you guys, you

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta help me find her. And Benson is now at

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the hospital getting checked out by a doctor, still at

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>this county jail hospital, and she's fine, but both she

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and Hope are worried about a pregnant woman that you

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>can kind of see off in the distance and they're like,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>she's pregnant and she's in four point restraints and the

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>doctor's like, well that's the rules, and they're like it's inhumane.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>If she were an animal, our group would be rescuing her.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And then the doctor is like, what ebbs, as soon

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>as I cut the cord that baby gets taken away

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and the mom finishes off an eighteen month drug sentence.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So who don't have a lot of guys with a

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of compassion in this hospital ward. A corrections officer

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>comes in to pick up Persaphone Jones and Olivia corrects

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>her pronunciation it's persephony and the doctor is like, I'd

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like to keep her overnight for observation, but the corrections

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>officer is like, is it life threatening and he's like no,

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So she's like, well, then she's coming with me. I'm like,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that the prison cops got to just

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of decide who gets to stay in the hospital

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>for observation or not. And they're like, she's under arrest

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>for assaulting an officer, and so then the correction's officer

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>reads or her rights, which obviously Olivia knows by heart,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and the officer brings her out and sits her next

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to t Bone. Olivia asks for her phone call, but

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the officer's like, just sit down and sit tight, you'll

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>get your call. So she tries to wake up t

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Bone and he's like, I'm not sleeping, I'm just listening

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and learning. I mean, t Bone is truly like a

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>cartoon character of a climate activist, like very funny. He's like,

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just pretending to be asleep so I can gather intel.

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, all right, t Bone, they're gonna question us.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone I should avoid mentioning? And he's like,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>why mention anyone? She's like, well, they're going to try

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to defend to connect us to the Earth Defenders group,

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and I need if I need to cover for someone,

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>please let me know. He doesn't answer her because suddenly,

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>up walks Deputy Eyebold, who is the guy who beat

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>them both up, and he just strolls up and this

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>guy is like a cocky asshole that you hate immediately

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and lives like, Deputy Eyebold, you seem reasonable. How do

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>we clear this up, which, to be fair, sounds like

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>she's offering to give my hand job or something right,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, are you trying to bribe me? And

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>she's like no, but t Bone will apologize and I

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>never touched you, but I apologize for stepping in your business.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to diffuse the situation. Then he uncuffs

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>her and takes her off somewhere, and then in the

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>next scene, she's getting her mugshot taken, and he's so smarty.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, smile, don't you want to look pretty in

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your mugshot? And it's like look at her. She doesn't

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>need any help looking pretty in her mugshot. It's fucking

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Benson. And so this.

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Guy was such a loser in high school. It's been

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 2>more obvious, I.

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Know very much. That's very that.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So Liv is like, you know, I didn't hit you,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and you're making a false arrest. And then they're arguing

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>about like the details, and then the main sheriff guy

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>strolls up and no one in Oregon can pronounce persephone.

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>He also calls her persephone like none of them took

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>mythology in high school.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 4>And they're all struggling.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>She tries to get the sheriff's help, and he's like, well,

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see the altercation, and she goes because nothing

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.240
<v Speaker 1>happened and there's nothing, there was nothing to even see,

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and this eyebald freak goes like you.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 4>You seem upset? Is it your time of the.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Month, like makes a period joke like die in a

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.720
<v Speaker 1>fire and then live is like I can't imagine anyone

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>perjuring themselves for an ass like you, and then they

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>argue because she can tell he's a bad cop, and

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know a lot about cop shit, like

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you've been in trouble before, and she's like no, and

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>then he goes, well, we'll wait for the prince to

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>come back. And you know, as a viewer, you're kind

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, her prints are definitely gonna pop in

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>New York because she's a law enforcement officer. And he's like,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>let's go find a quiet place for you to tell

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>me why you hit me. And she's like, fuck that,

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I never hit you, and I'm not going to some

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>good old boy back room alone with you. And she

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>lawyers up very smart. She's already been in sticky situations

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that Olivia Benson. So in the next scene, her public

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>defender shows up and lives like, what are you twelve?

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 4>And he goes, I'm twenty five, and I'm like that

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 4>is impressive.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean college, you get out at like twenty two

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and then to do law school and already be working

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>by twenty five.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 4>He didn't waste any time. He knew what he wanted

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>to do.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was not very good at it, I don't know,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>but he gives her all the info about getting arragined

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you don't want to know if I

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>did it or not. And he's like nope, because then

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't put you on the stand and some born

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>perjury like and she's like, well, for the record, I

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't touch this jackass. He's like, so I'm going to

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>try to get you out on ro R. She's like,

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>reallyased on my own recognizance, like she knows everything that's happening.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And then he's like, I'll try to get you out

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the day. So next scene is

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess by the end of the day and Live

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>is leaving the station, opens up her flip phone. Oh

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it's dead. Who knew these flip phones do not carry

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a charge when you're in jail overnight. The sheriff follows

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>her out and he's like, I'm just wondering if you'd

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>like if you could come back inside and answer some questions.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.439
<v Speaker 1>She is trying to play undercover, but she is doing

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a bad job, like she knows so much fucking copling

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>go She's like, I lawyered up. You shouldn't even be

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>talking to me, Like who uses the phrase lawyered up

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like besides cops, and he's like, it's not about the

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>assault charge. And he shows her a head shot, a

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>very large headshot of a guy, and.

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like she's been undercover before, as like a woman

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 2>who buys illegal babies for made purposes, you know.

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Right, Like yes, she's been undercover so much.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And she's still like, I bet you got a lot

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of I bet you got a lot of dings on

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>your jacket, like she's just using all this phrase that phraseology.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That's like stop, you're like telegraphing that you're a cop.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 5>But he.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Shows her this big headshot of a guy named Carl Dunford,

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's like you know this guy, right, and she goes,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't recognize him, and he goes, well, that's weird.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>He works for the pharmaceutical company that your little gang

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>was protesting last week, something about polluting a river. And

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>then it turns out they just fished his body out

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of the same river, but it wasn't the pollution that

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>killed him, and Olivia, still bad at being undercover, goes,

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what's the cause of death?

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Like just can't go what happened, you know?

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, well, I don't know which of the

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.479
<v Speaker 1>multiple stab wounds killed him. But you know, we're looking

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>for someone with a penchant for freeing willies if you

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, means his dick got cut off

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and boom.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 4>This is a sex crime.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So obviously, now we've brought Olivia in on another level

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 1>where she's intrigued. Back in interrogation, the sheriff is interrogating

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 1>persafhone and he says, I've been looking at your group

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and then he shows her pictures of

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>her protesting this dead guy's workplace, like this is you

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and your group at the place.

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 4>I still don't get why.

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like you should know every single employee at this

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical company. And she's like, yeah, his company is dumping

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical waste into the river, including estrogen, and it's feminizing

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the fish and some of the male fish are starting

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to lay eggs, which wow, I had I had heard

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that so many people are on antidepressants. Now that the

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>fish are on antidepressants, like that they go to the yeah,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>like through wastewater and stuff that Now like fish have

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like signs of antidepressus.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, whatever, are the fish happy? Are they having

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>more fun?

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 4>Are they like, maybe it's not so bad.

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>They're doing more errands. Like I don't get what the

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>fish are up to. I don't know they're living, they're

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>eating healthier, Like what are we talking about?

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to know that they're eating.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Better planked th they're they're maybe not just swimming around

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in circles.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 4>They actually have a purpose. And I mean, I love

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 4>this for the.

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Fish, so anyway, but I don't know about the feminizing

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of the fish. I guess the malefish do not like

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>laying eggs. So now someone has gone and feminized Carl Dunford.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>The sheriff says, sounds like retaliation, and Benson is like, dude,

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we are hippies. There has never been a murder in

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>this whole group's history because we don't roll with violence

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. And the sheriff is like, well, what about

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>t Bone sucker punching one of my deputies. And she's like,

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, a punch is not a murder or like

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a castration. T bone isn't a killer. Your guy, Eyebold

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>is a dick. He struck me and then lied about

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it and said I assaulted him. And the sheriff is like,

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>why don't you roll on this murder and we'll make

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that charge go away. And Benson is like, why don't

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you check out your victim because this, and she holds

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>up the picture of the dickless man's dead body is

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a sex crime. And then she's like, you ever heard

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of Loraina bob It? And it's like the fact that

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you're even differentiating between a crime and a sex crime?

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 4>You are? You are, like you have spu tached on

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 4>your forehead.

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:02.959
<v Speaker 1>And then she goes to walk out, and he tries

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to act like where do you think you're going, and

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 1>she goes, I know what's up.

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.479
<v Speaker 4>You can't keep me here. I'm not under arrest.

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, all right, well, don't leave the state

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, yeah, whatever dog. And so now we're

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>at the FBI headquarters in New York and Novak is

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>being told that Benson cannot be extricated from her assignment

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, and she's talking to this bald FBI

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>fucker and she's like, look at my victim, Chelsea, and

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's a picture of her in the hospital right

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>after her attack. He's like, look at this victim. She

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>recovered from the broken eye socket just in time to

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>see her rapist walk free, and then she demands to

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>talk to Starr. She's like, let me talk to Starr

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's like that's her undercover name.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Like our name is Dana Lewis. There's so many funny.

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Things going on here because on this previous episode, right

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like Star Dana is like they're connected at the FBI.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 4>One of them.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>She knows that Dana and Benson were working together on

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>an Eco terror case. And the ball guy is like, yeah,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>but Dana Lewis is not Benson's case agent, and she's like,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>well then who is. So then we cut right to

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>FBI agent Dean Porter, played by a guy named Vince Spano.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I like to imagine an old uncle of Jesse Spano

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>from Save by the Bell. And I don't know. I

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>thought I recognized this guy from other stuff, but I

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of looked at his IMDb and he's got a

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of credits, but I think I just know him

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>from this episode, from this show. This is his first episode,

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and he goes on to be in four more svus

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>as this character, and then finally he's in the episode Spooked,

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.959
<v Speaker 1>where it turns out he's kind of a bad guy,

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like and it's in one of these situations where Live

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>seduces him, like has.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Him over to her apartment.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>There's wine, she's wearing a hot dress, and it's so

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they can tap his phone through bluetooth.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 4>From the other room.

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if they have they have some

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>sexual tension, I guess in this episode, but it gets

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>turned up later. Anyway, he's like shoving donuts in his

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>face at some Oregon coffee shop and then Live sits

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>down nearby and is like, wow, could you look more

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like a fed And she's like, thanks for leaving me

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>hanging on the bail, and he's like, it's better for appearances.

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And also we read flagged your princes so that you

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pop up as a cop, and so we got

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you cut there. And then she tells him about how

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the Sheriff Thanks For group is involved with Dunford's death,

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, cool, if they were, we can go

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Rico and we can take down the whole organization. And

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Olivia's like, dude, I've been embedded with these people for

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks and there is jack shit linking them to even

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the Arsons, let alone murder, Like these people are truly

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>just granola loving activists.

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 4>They do not do anything illegal.

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>He says, look closer on that homicide, and Lives like, well,

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't link to them, I'm not just going

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to drop a murder investigation. And he's like, if it

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't link to them, you better let the local cops

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>handle it. You're on FBI dime now, and if it's

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>not related to eco terrorism, you back the hell off.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So now she doesn't do that. You know this is

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Benson. Back Off has no, it doesn't resonate with

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>her in any way. So Finn is on the phone

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>with Live and she's at a payphone in Oregon, and

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>he's giving her some info like okay, Carl Dunford, no records,

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>solid credit history, good, I'm glad he'll be able to

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>lease a Toyota, and Liv says she broke protocol. I

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>broke protocol by calling you, so I'm not gonna be

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>able to call you again, and he's like, before you go,

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>did you ever get this? Uh in touch with Noback

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.439
<v Speaker 1>about this case? With Elliott hold On, he's right here.

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>He goes to hand Elliott the phone and as soon

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 1>as Elliott says hello, someone behind her goes persephone, and

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Live hangs up the phone immediately, so Elliott thinks he's

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>just getting hung up on and they're I guess they're

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in a weird spot, these two, and it's t Bone

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, who are you talking to? It's like, okay, nosey,

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>who what's not your business? And Hope is there too,

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, probably Elliott the guy from her dreams,

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and liv says no, it's my useless public defender. She's like,

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out how much we should

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>cooperate about this Dunford thing, and Hope goes. T Bone says,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we should never cooperate with the enemy. Come on, I

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>want to get some snap peas and sweetcorn, like she

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>just they're out of They're at a farmer's market and

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>she's got a laundry list of shit she needs.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 4>So she tells t Bone, you know, don't worry.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I stayed quiet, and he's like about what, And she's like,

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I just think we should get our story straight and

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>T Bone's like what it's like if this is what's

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>been going on for five weeks? Just Olivia being like, so,

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>what's the code word? And t Bone being like what

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Like t Bone has no information

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't know what's going on, and she just keeps trying,

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, I mean it makes sense that

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at us. This guy was working for a

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>bad company. They hurt the ecosystem. And t Bone is like, well,

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>so does everyone who flushes expired meds down the toilet.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna just kill everyone with a prescription. I didn't

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>know you couldn't do that. I don't think I do that,

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>but like, I didn't know you couldn't flush expired meds

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>down the toilet, or that you shouldn't.

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 4>It's bad for the ecosystem. I would eat expired meds

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 4>before they went anywhere.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Name I was gonna say the same thing. I don't

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>believe in medication expiration. I'm sure we have nurses and

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>doctors that are gonna write me and go Kara never.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got fucking amoxisillin in my medicine cabinet right now

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that's like three years old that I am ready to use.

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>So liv says, I think we should just chill on

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the demonstrations for a minute until the cops back off

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>with this whole done for a thing, and Hope is like,

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>who do you think killed him? And then they just

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>look at each other. It's just a really weird way

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>to end the scene, I feel like. And so then

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>we see and a very to me, I found this

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>scene extremely silly. Live is standing outside of a fence

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of a parking lot yelling to some random man that

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>she's a reporter doing an article about Carl Dunford.

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.959
<v Speaker 4>Can you tell me how he got along with his coworkers.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Man in parking lot does not ask for any credentials whatsoever.

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>He goes this seems legit, and just starts gabbing about

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>how his dead coworker didn't have any close friends but

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>also no enemies. And then she keeps up the quote

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>unquote interview and the guy's like, you look familiar. Where

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>have I seen you? And she's like, oh, I cover

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>stories for the paper all around town, but I'm under deadline.

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 4>Back to Carl.

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Was he working on anything that could have gotten him killed?

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what is happening? I'm sure this man's been

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:47.959
<v Speaker 1>instructed not to talk to press, Like this is.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Such a weird seed.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 1>They're talking over a chingling fence and the guy's like, well,

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope not because we're all working on the same thing.

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>It's birth control for men, lol, which is I do

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>have a stand up joke on my album about mirth

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>control for men and how it's just like never They've

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>been promising it for years and years and it's just

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>never going to fucking happen because there are side effects

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and men can't handle that. So she's like, oh, is

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>there maybe a rival company, and he goes everyone's trying

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.720
<v Speaker 1>to build a better mouse trap or baby trap.

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Don't put that in the.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Article, and it's like, first of all, birth control does

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>not trap babies. It does not kill babies. That's another

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>part of my joke is that nobody even understands how

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>birth control works. They think that you basically take birth

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>control and it just like kills every baby in your body,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>which is like not what it does. And so she's like,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 1>anything else you can tell me about Carl and he's like, well,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 1>he was conscientious, very kind to his elderly mother and

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>called to check on her every day. So now ridiculous

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 1>parking lot interview is over and we cut to Benson

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>ringing the doorbell at the mom's house, holding some baked goods,

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>but who answers the door, but Deputy Dick bag eyeballed

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the guy who punched her out at the protest.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 4>He threatens to arrest her and.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm paying my respects to Carl Dunfern's mom.

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>And he goes with, what a poisoned tofu bunt cake?

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, it's a coffee cake. Test it yourself.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.959
<v Speaker 1>So the guy from the pharmaceutical company must have called you, huh,

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and then it's like, yeah, he remembered where he'd seen you,

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was wondering why a protester was posing as

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a newspaper reporter and Benson's like, got it all locked up?

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>She goes, no, I didn't misrepresent myself. I write a

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>column for an environmental newsletter. And he's like, I'm going

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to get you on trespassing and she goes, try again, bitch,

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I was on the sidewalk the whole time.

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess that's why the interview was so ridiculous. And

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 4>he goes, I.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't know what you're up to, girly, but I know

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it's no good and I do want to murder this

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>man alive or in a sleep whatever. She says, I'm

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>just trying to clear my group's name, and then he

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 1>tosses her coffee cake in the trash, perfectly good coffee cake. Well,

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>what's your feeling on coffee cake?

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 4>Do you like it? I love it? I love intimens.

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I grew up on it.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I've ever had a coffee

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 2>cake that was not entimens.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you have. I love coffee cake.

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Rosie's been bringing coffee cake home from school because they

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>give it out in the morning as part of the

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>school breakfast, and she's been like hoarding them, like she

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:00.879
<v Speaker 1>brings them home and then she's like they're really good,

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and so now I'm letting her have them for breakfast

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>at home. Anyway, he says, if I find out you're

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 1>interfering in this Dunford investigation, I'm gonna arrest your ass, Okay.

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 1>So Olivia, of course doesn't listen to jerks. So now

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>we're at the Dunford residence and it's nighttime, and Olivia

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>is skulking around with a flashlight when she hears a

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 1>commotion upstairs in the home. She goes inside and upstairs

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>in this very dark house and she finds someone rummaging.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>She flips the lights on and says, don't move hands

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 1>where I can see them, and it's a woman. She

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>immediately identifies herself as Deborah Hartnell, Carl's ex wife, and

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>when she turns around, it is Deborah Joe Rupp. She

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is the mom from that seventy show and Phoebe's brother's

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>wife from Friends.

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 4>I do love this actress.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I think she's so great on that seventy show and

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I just like love her.

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 4>She says, Carl.

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Left the house to her daughter, so she has a

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>right to be there, but lives like not when there's

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>a police seal, babe, Like you're tampering with evidence.

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.240
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, why did you kill Carl?

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, I haven't had any contact with Carl

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in eight years, neither did my daughter. I have full

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>custody of my daughter. So Benson starts going through the

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>bag that Deborah was holding and it's kitty videos, keen

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>teen clothing catalogs, and she's like, well, your ex had

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>contact with somebody's child, Like what's up? And then she

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>spins around with tears in her eyes and begs Olivia please,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like this would ruin my daughter's life if it came

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 1>out and Lives like, well, if Carl abused your daughter,

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>then you should you know, and Dev's like, no, she

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was just five when and then she goes, come on,

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Carl's dead. Can we just keep it a secret, and

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Lives like, you gotta tell the police. And that's when

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Debra's like, oh fuck, what I thought you were the police?

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>And then she gathers up all her little pedophile fixens

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and is like, get the hell away from me. As

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Live begs her to go to the top cops. Debra's like,

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of here. So now it's a new day.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And Live is back at some diner with her very

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>obnoxious FBI case agent this guy, and he's.

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Like, he's the worst, He's the worst.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Donald above him, Murphy, Yes, And I guess I would

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.879
<v Speaker 2>put Star above, but you know not, because she.

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Put Erica christians In above this guy. And she turned

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>out to be a murderer.

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.760
<v Speaker 2>So, but she murdered better than Marcia gay Harden murdered.

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:14.879
<v Speaker 4>She at least killed a bad guy.

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>She kills a psychopath. Marcia gay Harden kills a rival

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 1>in love.

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway is the number one FBI?

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bed wongs are number one, obviously, and we and

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 1>he gets into the mix. He gets into the mix

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.879
<v Speaker 1>in this episode with his FBI connects, but this guy

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is sitting there with live and he goes, you know,

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the reason undercover agents need a psyche val every six

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>months is to make sure they're not getting too close

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to the subject.

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 4>So what's up with the Soy Brigade?

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And Olivia is like nothing, They're not doing anything until

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>this dunef thing blows over, and then she tells him

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 1>again that no one in her group killed this guy,

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and they also have nothing to do with EDGE. That's

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the Earth Defenders group and they're true believers, not eco terrorists.

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 1>So he slides something over to her, and it's an

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 1>email to the pharmaceutical company saying like, basically, you guys

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>are fucking up the earth, we know where you live

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and some vague, other vague threats, and it includes the

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>names and addresses of a bunch of employees, including Carl.

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>She's like, it's a scare tactic, and he's like, well,

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like it could have been one of them

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>followed through on the scare tactic.

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 4>You know now that this guy's dead, and she.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Goes, Dunford was a peto I spoke to his ex

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>wife and this and this peach of an FBI agent

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>goes and ex wives never lie, Okay, I guess like

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 1>you can't truss anything anybody that's divorced, ever says, and

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he's like, focus on the job at hand and stop

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>chasing phantom sex crimes.

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 4>This man, why wouldn't you listen to her? Though? Like

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 4>that's she is at SVU.

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>She is, I mean, he pisses me off later more

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 2>than I can I cannot fathom right now, but and

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you probably know the moment, but it's just.

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Like, fuck off. They just are so disrespectful to her.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I don't have any like cop friends, but

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 2>my friends at work and offices in different spaces. The

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 2>mentrey like it is just so frustrating, Like why aren't

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you listening to this decorated professional who's doing you a

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 2>fucking solid.

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think even the lowest, lowest FBI

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>person thinks they're better than the highest cop. You know,

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>like FBI thinks they're just so much better. And it's like,

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>little girl, you're like my informant, You're like my little person,

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and just shut up and do what I say, you know,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he sucks.

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 4>He sucks hard.

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.720
<v Speaker 1>So back in New York, Chelsea, the victim from Novak's case,

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is pretty upset, like she's like, why can't you find Olivia.

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 1>She was at the hospital with me, she held my hands,

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>she said she'd be there for me. I just want

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 1>this to be over. She's obviously very very upset. She's

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>been through a horrible trauma, and Novak tells her. Novak goes, Chelsea,

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you need to calm down. I don't really love the

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>way Novak says that, and then she starts like kind

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of laughing, like almost like maniacally Chelsea, and She's like,

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't work, I can't sleep, I can't breathe.

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been barely able to function ever since this happened

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to me. And Novak's like, well, have you talked to

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the rape crisis counselor And she's like no, I don't

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to anyone. I just want this to

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be over. And Novak's like, dude, you need help, like

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you need to talk to someone, and Chelsea's like, no,

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:04.720
<v Speaker 4>I just need this guy in jail.

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>And Novak's like, well, what if he doesn't go to

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>jail and she's like, I think I'd kill myself is

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>what she says. So now we cut to Huang walking

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the room with Chelsea being like ber b babe,

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and then he's talking to Novak and he's like, I'll

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>talk to her and I'll let you know if this

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>threat of suicide seems credible.

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Novak goes, well, there's.

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Three days left on my continuance, so I don't think

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna do anything before the charges are formally dismissed.

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And Wang's like, is that really gonna happen and she's

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 1>like not if you help me find Benson. I'm getting

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>stonewalled by FBI and I need Huang. She's like, I

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>need you to use your connects and he's like, I'll

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>give it a shot, but I'm not really in with

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the domestic terrorism dudes. I'm the sex crimes guy. There's

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:45.000
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of crossover. And then Novak's like, then

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 1>what the hell are they doing with live? So back

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in Oregon, Benson is at an open house that Carl's ex,

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Debra turns out she's a real tour is preparing for Okay,

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and she looks terrified, like when she sees Benson, She's like,

0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>get out of here, immediately, leave now, and Benson's like,

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it's an open house, baby, I'm checking it out. What

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>is this a three bed, two bath like, and then

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 1>she says, I'll leave after you tell me what's going on.

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>And Deborah rightfully is like, who the hell are you,

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, I work with rape victims and your

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>ex was a predator and we both know it. Deborah

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>denies it, Benson pushes, and then Deborah reiterates what she

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.799
<v Speaker 1>said the night before. Carl is dead. If this gets out,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>it only hurts my daughter. And then it's like, well,

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 1>what about the other victims, Like, no one's reported him,

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 1>so that means he either threatened them or possibly killed them.

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And you caught him in the act eight years ago.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You said who was it? And she was like, she

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>has tears in her eyes, and she's like, our twelve

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>year old babysitter. It was taking longer and longer to

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 1>drive her home. She followed him one night and they

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>they were parked a block away from the house, and

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>then she's like, so she saw him, you know, molesting her,

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and she couldn't handle the shame of people knowing she

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>asked for a divorce and all the custodial rights. And

0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that was like when she sort of cut ties with

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy's with this guy, and then Benson's like, but

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:01.719
<v Speaker 1>what about the sitter, And then she goes, well, he

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>promised never to touch her again, and Benson's like, you

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>actually think he stopped, And then cut to Benson talking

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:10.959
<v Speaker 1>to the babysitter, who is now a grown woman because

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, now she's twenty and she's in a waitress

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>uniform holding a baby, going, of course he didn't stop.

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I'd like it when they do these scenes where

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like, did you think you would stop?

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Next scene?

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Of course he didn't stop, you know, like it makes

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it like sort of a seamless story. Now I have

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to pause for a second here and say that the

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 1>actress that plays this girl, the babysitter, who I think

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 1>her name is Christy. The actress's name is Carrie Sataro,

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>who was actually also in the episode taken, the one

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>where they staged the assault at the hotel so they

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>can like do a payout with Jenna Lemia as our guest. Anyway,

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>she listens to our podcast and she messaged us a

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>while ago and told us that the twins in that

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>they cast for this scene weren't working out, so Marishka

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>let them use her actual newborn, So that is August

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in this scene when she's holding the baby, that is August,

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>her son, because this was apparently her first day back

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>on set after having him.

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh my god.

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Kind of fun, kind of fun little inside And Carrie,

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you are great in this episode. Thank you so much

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>for messaging us and giving us the tea. So Benson

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, is that Carl's baby And She's like, nah,

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I've had so many boyfriends since Carl. And Benson is like, girl,

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't your boyfriend you were twelve. He was your

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>rapist and she like really like sadly kind of goes wow,

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about it like that before.

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:35.959
<v Speaker 4>You know. It's like when we.

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Talk about how young boys will be like, oh, I

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like lost my virginity to a sixteen year old when

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve, and it's like, I don't you know

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that that's not kosher?

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, I know, but you know what.

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Benson felt so bad when she told Maria Bello's mom

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and like revealed that that like why ruin someone's day

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and There was another case where Elliot and her were

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>arguing whether to like show a videotape I was the

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.479
<v Speaker 2>smut episode, Like women didn't have memories of.

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 4>It, and they're like, but we need it for the case.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 2>They have to watch it, but it's like they don't

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 2>even know the rap book card, like do you want

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to know or not? And I do feel with this,

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like I don't know, does she need to know

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>that or not?

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Or will she figure it out or is it I am?

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I was just I kind of do think it's good

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for her in her life to know that, what if

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 1>her son grows up and you know, she can teach

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>her son about this, Like what if she has contact

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>with like other young people that are going through something

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>like this and she can kind of recognize it and

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 1>call it out. I think it's I don't know. I

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>guess it's like it's also a TV show. So I'm

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, no, she's getting the message out there

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>that just because you're twelve and you feel like a

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 1>grown up and somebody older is showing it like interest

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in you, that's not what it is. But you're right,

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's definitely ruining her day for sure, but

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>probably probably important information to know.

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and it's kind of sad.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And then she goes, I never told anyone about me

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and Carl because he said no one would understand. And

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.919
<v Speaker 1>she said, at first it was awful, and then she said,

0:58:57.960 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and then it was nice to finally be loved.

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. Maybe she's from a bad broken

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 4>home or something.

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>She said it lasted a year, but then when I

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was thirteen, I started dating a high school boy. Carl

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>got mad and dumped me. And she has to go

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to her shift, so Benson's like, why don't you let

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>me help and takes the baby and it's her own baby,

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>which is cute, and Benson asks her how she kept

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it going once Carl's wife bounced with the kid, like,

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 1>how did you keep up the rooms that you were

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 1>going to babysit for this family?

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 4>She's like, oh, Carl would pick me up at.

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>School and have me duck down in the back and

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>then he would take me to this cool room he

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>had set up underneath the garage. So ding ding ding, Okay,

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Benson has to check this out. So she and

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>her flashlight are back at the house and they're in

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the garage. She cuts the lock off this little door

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and finds like the way down to this subterranean room,

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and she flashes her flashlight down there and then fires

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up the flip phone and goes, I think I found

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>something you need to see.

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 4>We love that. What do we need to see? What's

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 4>down there?

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So at the top of the final app the sheriff

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>is coming downstairs into the secret room and lecturing persa

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 1>phone about how many charges they're going to get her on,

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, thank you for finding the crime scene.

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So there's a knife on the ground and there's a

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.320
<v Speaker 1>bloodstain on the rug, and it looks like it happened

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<v Speaker 1>during dinner. He was having steak, she was having pizza roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly the marketing that I think Totinos wants. But

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<v Speaker 1>so Benson is like telling the sheriff. She's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a victim. He brought down here eight

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. There's probably been tons of victims since then.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy goes board games, CDs, chips, cookies, TV,

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<v Speaker 1>anything a girl could want, the sheriff says, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Benson goes accept a phone, and then the guy goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's motive for a teen to kill I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The sheriff is also like being very flippant about all this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, we just found a sex dungeon under your

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<v Speaker 1>murder victim's house. And you're kind of like keeen girls

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<v Speaker 1>love the phone, Like you gotta get it together, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, well, she probably you know, killed him

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<v Speaker 1>in self defense to get out of here, and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes self defense and somewhere between the first dozen stab

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<v Speaker 1>wounds and the castration, and it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>does it like you can't be like, oh, you murdered

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<v Speaker 1>somebody too hard that was holding you hostage, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Benson's like, well, it wasn't necessarily her, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it could have was her parent found her, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she was maybe this guy was sharing her with

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<v Speaker 1>someone else and the guy got like jealous and killed

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<v Speaker 1>him and stole her, you know who knows. And the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff is like, listen, I won't press charges, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got to stop playing policewomen and run along to the commune.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, meanwhile, it's like you're still not you still

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. She's literally giving you like themes of

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<v Speaker 1>the crime, like this is wild. Later, we see a

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<v Speaker 1>full press conference happening outside the home with the sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>answering reporters questions, and he goes, we found two sets

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<v Speaker 1>of prints. One was Carl Dunford's, and then he defers

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<v Speaker 1>to FBI Agentine Porter, who is like now part of

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<v Speaker 1>the murder press conference, and Benson looks confused. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is he doing up there? Porter explains

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<v Speaker 1>that the prince belonged to Britney Dunlap. She disapp heard

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago when she was ten. Her parents are

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<v Speaker 1>standing there. They've been looking for her all this time.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't found Brittany yet, but they believe she is alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And as she's watching this press conference, Olivia the eyebold

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<v Speaker 1>asshole is like, you need to come with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's like, I got someone who wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. So now in interrogation, Live is handcuffed to

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<v Speaker 1>a chair when the sheriff walks in and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you uncuff me please?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like I can't, and she's like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gave you everything you bragged about on TV, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like all your glory that you took during this press

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<v Speaker 1>conference and he's like, I have no problem with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in walks FBI guy and she's still in

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<v Speaker 1>character as persephone, and she's like, what does the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>want with me? And he's like, after the stunts, you've

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<v Speaker 1>pulled nothing, You're done here, Detective Benson, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff on coffer and she's like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>you outed me, and the sheriff is like, oh please,

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<v Speaker 1>I made you for a cop halfway through your crime

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<v Speaker 1>scene analysis. It's like, sure you did, bro, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you could have done it a lot earlier. She was

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<v Speaker 1>being very odd. So thanks for the work with the

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<v Speaker 1>eco terrorists, though, he says, and she goes, they're act this.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, I was looking for the real terrorist who

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<v Speaker 1>is still out there, and the FBI guy's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not. Turns out the leader of Edge got arrested

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal two days ago after like burning down a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>like lumber factory or something. So Benson's like, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>had me with the wrong group the whole time, and

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<v Speaker 1>FBI goes, yeah, sorry about that, and then hands are

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<v Speaker 1>a paper airplane ticket just in case some of you

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<v Speaker 1>young gen zs were like what's he handing her? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a paper airplane ticket and says, have a nice flight

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<v Speaker 1>to New York. And now Benson is chasing FBI guy

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<v Speaker 1>down the hallway, going let me help you find Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, no thanks, and she's like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I have experience and I uncovered this whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't think we work very well together.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the.

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy ass clown shows up with a tip that's out

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<v Speaker 1>of their jurisdiction and hands it to the FBI guy

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<v Speaker 1>while Benson while he gives Benson a smug smile and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's out of my life forever now. And

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<v Speaker 1>the tip is that a trucker picked up a hitchhiker

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<v Speaker 1>the Knight that Dunford was murdered and saw Brittany on

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<v Speaker 1>the news and thinks it might be her, and he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped her in Butteville, which is about twenty five minute

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<v Speaker 1>it's away. So now Benson is like, look, that picture

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<v Speaker 1>of Brittany is so old. You're going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tips and most of them are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be bullshit. And he's like, well, Brittany's parents moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Portland two years ago when she was kidnapped, she actually

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Butteville, so this is kind of a credible tip.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back in New York, Novak is mad at Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>for not letting live know how bad they need her back,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, she hung up on me this second.

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<v Speaker 1>Hin Fin handed me the phone and Houang's like, why

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<v Speaker 1>would she hang up? And Stabler's like, you tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>FBI guy, and he asks Huang to tell him where

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<v Speaker 1>she is and he's like, Elliott, no, like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that, and he's like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give up state secrets. I just want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>lives okay, and he goes, listen, I gave the message

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<v Speaker 1>to my sac who I AM told gave it to

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<v Speaker 1>her case agent. But they all know that if Chelsea's

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<v Speaker 1>case hinged on her testimony, she would be there. And

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<v Speaker 1>Wang's like, well, maybe her case agent just isn't in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with her, and Stabler's like that just doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So now in the car with FBI and her case agent,

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<v Speaker 1>FBI guy and Benson, she's looking at Britney's file and

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<v Speaker 1>the local authorities have searched her old home in Butteville.

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<v Speaker 1>Her elementary school parks, like it's a small town. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find her, and then he asks her, does

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<v Speaker 1>your partner in New York find you as annoying as

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Like he's I can't tell if he's like

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<v Speaker 1>nagging her because she's obviously very gorgeous and he has

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<v Speaker 1>the hots for her. And she's like, we're besties and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be nice to have a partner that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>sync with. And he's like, well, we'll have you back soon,

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<v Speaker 1>lucky him.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well don't they eventually like go on

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<v Speaker 2>a weird date and she's recording him because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>trust him, and sid, yeah, that's what I was so

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<v Speaker 2>later there, then do they end up going on dates

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<v Speaker 2>or like she's always using him. She's using him, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because he sucks, Like maybe he's tall, but that's I yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she has to like push his hair back.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to drink wine, she has to. She's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a dress, Baker, she's putting on the full court press

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, cause I watched a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the scene and it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for the invitation, glad you accepted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of little flirty flirts going on

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<v Speaker 1>with those two, but right now he hates her ass

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretending and I think he's in love with her.

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<v Speaker 4>So then something in the file catches Live's attention.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, wait a minute, one of the friends of

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<v Speaker 1>Britney's had a fort in the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>Did anyone check that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how there's like a profile of all her

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<v Speaker 1>friends and where their playtime forts are. So we cut

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<v Speaker 1>to Benson and FBI guy searching the woods and he's

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<v Speaker 1>being a pussy. He's like, louse, tud Beck, we lost

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<v Speaker 1>the trail, and She's like, it's right here, loser or

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<v Speaker 1>come on. So then they find it and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so much of a fort as it is like a

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<v Speaker 1>full wooden structure with doors and windows like it is

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<v Speaker 1>like a small, like kind of derelict, one room cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>And she opens the door and they find Britney sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. Wakes her up, and it wakes her

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<v Speaker 1>up when they enter, and she's scared of them immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI idiot is like, no, no, we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to take you home, and that freaks her out even more,

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<v Speaker 1>and Olivia's like, no, for her home is the dungeon, dumbass.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brittany is begging them to go away, go away,

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<v Speaker 1>go away, and they're like, well, we want to take

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<v Speaker 1>you to see your parents, and she's like no, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, why don't you want to see your parents?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I'm too ashamed. And then the scene

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<v Speaker 1>kind of transfers just to her continuing them continuing the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her. But now they're in an interview room

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<v Speaker 1>at this Oregon precinct or whatever, and Brittany like doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to look to them or talk to them, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's freaking out. This girl has been in captivity since

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<v Speaker 1>she was ten years old and she's like eighteen or seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So the FBI asshole goes brilliant with victims, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like he like whispers that to Olivia, like Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really doing that great of a job immediately

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<v Speaker 1>cracking open this extremely traumatized girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I would punch him in the face. He deserves it.

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<v Speaker 4>He deserves it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it been five minutes, She's been trapped in a

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<v Speaker 2>fort for a decade, What are you like, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's a little true You just wanted to magically,

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<v Speaker 2>like get info.

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<v Speaker 4>She's not a psychic. What is a hypnotist? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Like this guy is terrible. There's trust, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking hate him. Go work in white collar crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And imagine if Olivia wasn't there. Imagine if Olivia wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be this guy. Yeah, yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 1>just be this guy going. Just talk to us, just

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what happened, you know, Like ugh. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia's like, watch this, you prick.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany is pacing around the room, touching the walls, and

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<v Speaker 1>finally she's like, look, officer.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever his name is. Porter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his name is actually a Porter, which is

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<v Speaker 1>funny because that's her future son's last name. She finally

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<v Speaker 1>asks Agan Porter to leave. She's like, get the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of here now, and so now it's just her

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<v Speaker 1>and Brittany. She's like, look, he's gone, it's just us two.

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<v Speaker 1>She asks Brittany, why didn't you just leave his body there?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you like remove the body and take it

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<v Speaker 1>and dump it in this river? And Brittany's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going to keep living there. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>look what I done, at what I'd done every day,

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<v Speaker 1>like she didn't want to like sit there with a

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<v Speaker 1>dead body, and she's like, how did you get him.

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<v Speaker 4>To the river?

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<v Speaker 1>She says, I found a tarba in the garage. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped him up. It took forever to get him up

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs. I got him in the trunk of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he was gone, I drove back home. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I wonder how she knows how to drive, like

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<v Speaker 1>she was maybe from watching TV because she literally got

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped at ten and she's seventeen now, but she knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to drive and get him to the river. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she says she went back to like continue living

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<v Speaker 1>in this room, but she says it was unbearable being

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<v Speaker 1>there without him. Benson explains, he brainwashed you, he had

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<v Speaker 1>control over you. Brittany's like, no, he loved me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I loved him, and he brought me a present almost

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<v Speaker 1>every day. And she's like, you had to convince yourself

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<v Speaker 1>you loved him in order to survive. And Benson lays

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<v Speaker 1>down some sexual assault statistics for Brittany, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know if that's the time or the place, but

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, half a million women are raped every year

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, and only a fraction of them report

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<v Speaker 1>it because they are ashamed. She's like, the world is

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up, but it's not your fault. Brittany says, I

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<v Speaker 1>could never say the things we did, and Benson says

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<v Speaker 1>it must have been unbearable and kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>other girl, the other the babysitter. She goes only at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she says, I miss him so much and

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could take it all back, and she

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<v Speaker 1>says I didn't kill him to escape, and finally Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>gets out of her. She confesses that he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convince her to go outside with him and lure

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<v Speaker 1>in a new young girl because she was getting too

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<v Speaker 1>old and she could only stay if she went with

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<v Speaker 1>him and found a younger girl for him, and Benson's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you saved a little girl from having her childhood stolen

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<v Speaker 1>like yours was. And then Brittany's like sobbing, laying into

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<v Speaker 1>Benson's arms, hugging her, and was like, I was only

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<v Speaker 1>ten and it's really horrific. I mean, liv looks shook

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<v Speaker 1>as she hugs her and tells her like, you'll be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think even for live.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, this is fucked up case.

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<v Speaker 1>And Benson goes to a one way glass where FBI

1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:29.479
<v Speaker 1>dou Shee's hanging out and they're watching her talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her parents and she's like, well, yeah, she has Stockholm syndrome,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, she probably had dozens of chances to

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<v Speaker 1>kill him before she actually did, and Benson's like, no

1:10:37.400 --> 1:10:39.599
<v Speaker 1>jury will convict this woman, and he's like, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>pressing charges. So he does one good thing this fucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Benson goes, will Brittany get psychiatric care? And he's like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the FBI guy finally admits Olivia is good

1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:50.799
<v Speaker 1>at her job, as if she needs his fucking approval,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's like, oh oopsie, Daisy, I forgot I

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<v Speaker 1>got this message for you from doctor from agent Huang.

1:10:57.520 --> 1:10:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, no one has had to pronounce anything

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode. So she goes, do you mean Huong?

1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And then she looks maybe it's like a real dig

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<v Speaker 2>into Oregon, you know what I mean? One of the

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<v Speaker 2>writers was from there and hated all their classes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that would be so that would be a funny

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<v Speaker 4>easter egg.

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<v Speaker 1>So she goes like, looks panicked at this piece of

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<v Speaker 1>paper and then runs off so now we're in court.

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<v Speaker 1>Live walks up to Novak, who's like, where the hell

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<v Speaker 1>have you been? And then there's no time for undercover stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Get your ass in court. They walk in together, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a cool shot of them, like opening the doors together,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like Novak and Benson. And then Chelsea's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there in the gallery and she sees Live and she

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<v Speaker 1>looks so happy, and then Live sits with her and

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea goes, I was worried you weren't going to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>and Live says there was never a chance of that happening,

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<v Speaker 1>smiles all around. Then that's stickwolf baby, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's Live gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>This is what I said before, Like, what's Live going

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<v Speaker 4>to do with this trial? Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Go?

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<v Speaker 4>I actually didn't plant the gum okay case. Close, You're guilty?

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<v Speaker 4>Moving on, like, and did we get an apology from FBI?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Did he go I'm sorry for being a dick.

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<v Speaker 1>He never said I'm sorry for being a dick. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually pretty good with victims. I guess he's such

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking man. Yeah, he thought he was gonna do bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I fuck. I liked sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I also wasted five weeks of your fucking life, letting

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<v Speaker 1>you just like hang out with eco activists that are

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<v Speaker 1>not terrorists in any way. Like, isn't the FBI supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have more intelligence than that, like than to center

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<v Speaker 1>with like the fully wrong person.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they were in Canada, now an offshoot or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe it's Canada, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited. We got to see uh little August

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<v Speaker 1>Herman's first television debut. I mean, you don't see his

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<v Speaker 1>face at all, but inside scoop, I excited to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about whatever crime this is.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I think you should quell your excitement. Excitement.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this gonna make me feel terrible? Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, think about the episode. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>realized this is gonna be like FRITZL Part two. Never mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna be about eco activists or

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists for some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh why okay, no, so did I.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we thought we'd have a little you know, goofy

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<v Speaker 2>environment fun, you know, a couple pipe bombs. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>not that pipe bombs can't be serious, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move it along. So these events happened to a

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<v Speaker 2>woman named Natasha comtpush Campush. This is in Austria, so

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<v Speaker 2>your Fritzl thing wasn't too far off or in the

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<v Speaker 2>same God.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is everybody doing this in Austria? Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Natasha did write an autobiography in twenty eleven and it

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<v Speaker 2>was called threeenty ninety six, And in hindsight, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I read it all, but a lot of quotes, like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the research I did was taken from

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<v Speaker 2>the book. So a lot of it's from the book,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's from her account. There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that are not unique in this case, but unique in

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<v Speaker 2>her and her thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll get to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's really unique elements that I had not seen before,

1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:10.720
<v Speaker 2>even though the crime is too common unfortunately. So Natasha

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<v Speaker 2>was ten years old when she was abducted and held

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<v Speaker 2>captive by a guy named Wolfgang prick low Pill. So

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<v Speaker 2>she was kept in complete darkness, and in a quote

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<v Speaker 2>from her book, she writes, the feeling of loneliness hit

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<v Speaker 2>me so hard that I was afraid of losing my grip.

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<v Speaker 2>Darkness like full and she got her through all of

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<v Speaker 2>this was she imagined an adult version of herself, telling

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<v Speaker 2>her that one day when she's older, that she will

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<v Speaker 2>overpower him. So like she got a vision and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like her eighteen year old self being like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get out of here when you're eighteen, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, but that's eight fucking years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A forensic psychologist told A and E True Crime in quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>she struck me as somebody who was twelve going on

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, somebody who was pseudo mature, meaning their survival

1:14:58.760 --> 1:15:02.920
<v Speaker 2>skills are older than their chronological age in some respects.

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<v Speaker 2>That probably served her well end quote. And so she

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<v Speaker 2>was born on February seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight, so a millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>She was born in Vienna, and she grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>public housing projects in the outskirts of the city, and

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<v Speaker 2>her neighborhood was littered with alcoholics and very bitter adults. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a wild thing to say about a town,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's fed by bitterness. I've just never heard a

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<v Speaker 2>whole town, but I mean, I'm sure like towns are

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<v Speaker 2>all the factories and their way of money getting here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's bitterness, but it's it's just not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But didn't it seem like the town where like Aileen

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<v Speaker 1>Warnos grew up, was kind of like nobody gave a shit,

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<v Speaker 1>Like nobody helped kids that seemed like they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going astray and like just but maybe not bitterness as

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<v Speaker 1>much as yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just shitty, Like it's kind of when you don't see

1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a way you need examples of a way out. And

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<v Speaker 2>if there's no example of any other type of life

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<v Speaker 2>around you, how can you even imagine or.

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<v Speaker 4>See yourself out of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that you know, same with like kids and

1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:10.919
<v Speaker 2>gangs or like if you don't see a future for yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but that's not her yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>turbulent childhood. She did grow up quickly, and she learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to navigate difficult situations.

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<v Speaker 4>Her parents divorced.

1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Her dad would take her to bars and that she

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<v Speaker 2>he would stay out late getting drunk with his friends,

1:16:24.800 --> 1:16:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and she was just like there at the bar, and

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<v Speaker 2>then her mom liked to slap her around, and by

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<v Speaker 2>ten she was already like very depressed, lonely, and a

1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:36.439
<v Speaker 2>compulsive eater. And so March first, nineteen ninety eight, her

1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:39.840
<v Speaker 2>mother was pissed because her father returned her late from

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<v Speaker 2>a visit and she was like, you can no longer

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<v Speaker 2>see him.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck this.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next day, the ten year old left

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<v Speaker 2>for school without saying goodbye, and the Guardian the paper

1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:53.320
<v Speaker 2>adds that this was the very first occasion her mother

1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:57.040
<v Speaker 2>let her walk alone, which is an SVU heartbreaking fact

1:16:57.080 --> 1:16:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that has happened before.

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<v Speaker 4>He's recurring. Yeah, yes, that's always the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they It's like it's like because predators can

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<v Speaker 1>tell who's like nervous and tentative.

1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:10.400
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, they know who to go for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's there's actually a few things that are like

1:17:13.200 --> 1:17:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I said, there's a lot of unique things to this

1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:18.120
<v Speaker 2>case and to her, and then there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>just like fuck ah okay, like things are just so

1:17:22.800 --> 1:17:26.160
<v Speaker 2>cyclical or whatnot. So camp Bush wanted to walk on

1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:28.200
<v Speaker 2>her own so bad. It was her goal and becoming

1:17:28.240 --> 1:17:31.040
<v Speaker 2>self sufficient, and like she wanted to get out, and

1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:33.479
<v Speaker 2>she did have this like thirst, like I want better

1:17:33.520 --> 1:17:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and I need to be independent and I.

1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Need to like do something about my life.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was like, I'm going to walk home, and

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<v Speaker 2>so on March second, nineteen ninety eight, she walks to school.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a five minute walk home to school, five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>several walks from her home in Vienna, she saw a

1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:52.679
<v Speaker 2>man standing near a delivery van. He looked out of place,

1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and she did feel uneasy. And that's the thing that

1:17:56.400 --> 1:17:59.920
<v Speaker 2>is a common thread between like Colleen stan To where

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<v Speaker 2>there's a ping of something's not right, but you're like,

1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:08.720
<v Speaker 2>oh whatever, and you keep it moving. Because I was

1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just talking to someone else, like people are curious about

1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>our research in her pod, and so I was like

1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:17.679
<v Speaker 2>talking to someone and they were asking because you can't

1:18:17.720 --> 1:18:19.599
<v Speaker 2>protect there's no way to protect yourself, like no matter

1:18:19.600 --> 1:18:21.720
<v Speaker 2>what you do, like you are not in control of.

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<v Speaker 4>If someone wants to be a predator too.

1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know, like right, yeah, yeah, But I was

1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:30.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, the only thing I've really gotten from this

1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:33.440
<v Speaker 2>podcast that you have to do is follow your gut

1:18:33.720 --> 1:18:36.599
<v Speaker 2>and like the moment you have a feeling, I don't

1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:38.639
<v Speaker 2>it does not matter, turn around and get the fuck

1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:42.680
<v Speaker 2>out of somewhere, like I don't care who you're offending,

1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.160
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. And then the response to me in

1:18:45.200 --> 1:18:47.600
<v Speaker 2>the con I wish I remembered who I was talking to,

1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:49.080
<v Speaker 2>but they were like, yeah, you're gonna seem like a

1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:50.559
<v Speaker 2>psycho or something. I'm like, yeah, I don't even care,

1:18:50.720 --> 1:18:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Like the moment I want to leave, I don't care

1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:55.080
<v Speaker 2>what I miss out, Like you have to follow your gut.

1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Karen and Georgia have this phrase that's fuck politeness,

1:18:59.000 --> 1:19:01.519
<v Speaker 1>because like, yeah, you have to just like listen to

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<v Speaker 1>what yes, And I am absolutely guilty of doing that

1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, oh, he's just it's just a weird guy.

1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm guilty of like totally being like it's not that

1:19:10.720 --> 1:19:12.240
<v Speaker 1>big of a deal and like keep going and like

1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:14.920
<v Speaker 1>get you know, and then the person is crazy or

1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:15.880
<v Speaker 1>weird or bad.

1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:16.840
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this is a ten year old girl, so it's

1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:21.760
<v Speaker 2>like she felt weird, but like, how is she even

1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:24.080
<v Speaker 2>to not to follow your instincts? She has no parenting,

1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:25.200
<v Speaker 2>there's no one parenting her.

1:19:25.640 --> 1:19:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she's also probably like maybe this is part

1:19:28.240 --> 1:19:30.360
<v Speaker 1>of walking by yourself. You feel a little nervous when

1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you see somebody keep going, you can do it, you know.

1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Like and it's a town of fucking weirdos. Yeah.

1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>So he was a communications technician and he was like

1:19:42.040 --> 1:19:42.559
<v Speaker 2>a loser.

1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:46.080
<v Speaker 2>So Natasha said he only had one friend whose name

1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:50.400
<v Speaker 2>was Ernest hals Fell, and then his mother and so

1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the mom and Ernst were like the only people.

1:19:52.520 --> 1:19:55.880
<v Speaker 4>That visited his house. So she learned from watching.

1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:59.479
<v Speaker 2>So we're back in the van, she's you know, Wolfgang's there,

1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.720
<v Speaker 2>and she he watched an Austrian TV show that's a

1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:07.200
<v Speaker 2>version of Crime Watch. So this is like another kid

1:20:07.240 --> 1:20:11.120
<v Speaker 2>that like learned because people, you know, you would think

1:20:11.280 --> 1:20:13.439
<v Speaker 2>SV and all these crime shows and forensic files would

1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.120
<v Speaker 2>not be appropriate for children, but it seems like they

1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:20.120
<v Speaker 2>do help children realize how the fuck to get shited

1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:24.759
<v Speaker 2>together when these things happened to them. So she knew

1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that she had to get as much info about the

1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:31.040
<v Speaker 2>criminal as possible because that's how you catch these motherfuckers.

1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:35.200
<v Speaker 2>So right away she started asking questions, and he, you know,

1:20:35.439 --> 1:20:37.240
<v Speaker 2>was she was like, what's your shoe size, what's your high?

1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Are you married? Do you have kids? How old are you?

1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:42.000
<v Speaker 2>All these questions, and then she also right away asked

1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>her are you going to molest me? And the kidnapper said,

1:20:45.200 --> 1:20:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you're too young for them. So he carried the child

1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to a secret basement room and there was a concrete floor,

1:20:52.320 --> 1:20:55.519
<v Speaker 2>and he'd clearly been planning something like this for a while.

1:20:56.040 --> 1:20:58.720
<v Speaker 2>There was a trap door in the garage, then downstairs,

1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:02.640
<v Speaker 2>then through a hollowed out concrete wall hidden on the

1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:07.160
<v Speaker 2>other side of a small metal hatch concealed behind a cupboard.

1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Fuck.

1:21:10.680 --> 1:21:13.559
<v Speaker 2>She says she did not plead or fight back because

1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:16.280
<v Speaker 2>she felt that she had to accept the situation in

1:21:16.439 --> 1:21:19.599
<v Speaker 2>order to get through it. And at first he started

1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:21.839
<v Speaker 2>off kind, even though she knew it was an illusion

1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>of safety, you know, because then it was pitch fucking

1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:27.960
<v Speaker 2>black and she was alone in a basement. But there

1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:31.599
<v Speaker 2>was a certain level of kind, you know, obviously he's

1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:34.639
<v Speaker 2>a fucking you know, monster. But he gave her a computer, books,

1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:39.200
<v Speaker 2>chocolate eggs for Easter, fancy croissants, and expensive toys.

1:21:39.200 --> 1:21:41.439
<v Speaker 4>But the toys were all toys that would.

1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Be for a toddler, like a train set, and she

1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:47.440
<v Speaker 2>believes it was because he wanted to regress her psychologically

1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:50.559
<v Speaker 2>to the aid, yeah, to like the age of a

1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:55.160
<v Speaker 2>dependent toddler. And then the gifts shifted to things like

1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:59.679
<v Speaker 2>mouthwash and tape, but she still happy to receive stuff.

1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 2>But then the classic monster move of saying so then

1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:05.599
<v Speaker 2>he says to her, your parents didn't pay the ransom

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:09.240
<v Speaker 2>and they don't love you, So that's that. And now

1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that you've seen my face, you can never, like, I

1:22:11.960 --> 1:22:15.559
<v Speaker 2>can never let you go. So then the monster began

1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:18.559
<v Speaker 2>controlling every part of her life, and he built an

1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:21.559
<v Speaker 2>intercom you know, he was really good at technology, so

1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:24.320
<v Speaker 2>he built this intercom system and he would bark orders

1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:26.760
<v Speaker 2>at her, and then he would stay awake all night

1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:31.120
<v Speaker 2>screaming insults at her. He wanted also to be called maestro,

1:22:31.400 --> 1:22:35.519
<v Speaker 2>and that was one thing she refused to do. She's

1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and she also said, like, yeah, that was her one

1:22:37.880 --> 1:22:40.639
<v Speaker 2>thing where she's like absolutely fucking not, which is amazing

1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>because it reminds.

1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:42.439
<v Speaker 4>Me of a Lane from Seinfeld.

1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:49.759
<v Speaker 2>So she also said that she never dehumanized him. She writes,

1:22:49.920 --> 1:22:52.880
<v Speaker 2>had I met him with only hatred, that hatred would

1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:55.320
<v Speaker 2>have eaten me up and robbed me of the strength

1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I needed to make it through. She's like, taken this

1:22:58.400 --> 1:23:01.120
<v Speaker 2>out of like the Olivia Benson book, like you did

1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:04.840
<v Speaker 2>what you had to do, you survived. When she entered puberty,

1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Wolfgang dropped any paternal facade at all, and he started

1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:11.160
<v Speaker 2>putting her to work, so she had to clean and

1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:14.680
<v Speaker 2>renovate his home. She wrote that she felt like a

1:23:14.720 --> 1:23:17.360
<v Speaker 2>batter dog who is not allowed to bite the hand

1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:20.759
<v Speaker 2>that beats him because it's the same hand that feeds him.

1:23:21.840 --> 1:23:26.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, violence started. He would stab her, knee punches, kicks.

1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Another memory for her is that prickinapile or whatever took

1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:34.519
<v Speaker 2>her to his bed tied their wrists together, and she

1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:36.519
<v Speaker 2>was scared he was gonna rape her. But then this

1:23:36.600 --> 1:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>guy who beat her just wanted to cuddle. So she

1:23:41.800 --> 1:23:44.800
<v Speaker 2>does not talk about sexual abuse. She says it was

1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:48.599
<v Speaker 2>quite light and minor, and then he mostly wanted to cuddle,

1:23:49.200 --> 1:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's that she didn't really start fighting back till

1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.880
<v Speaker 2>age fifteen. She punched him, but then he put her

1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:59.120
<v Speaker 2>in a headlock, but she proved to herself that she

1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:02.439
<v Speaker 2>was strong and had lost her self respect and then

1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:06.639
<v Speaker 2>the like you know, full Stockholm syndrome. Ultimate power trip

1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 2>for these fucking psychos is he started taking her out

1:24:10.560 --> 1:24:13.280
<v Speaker 2>so ski trips, shopping and then to work sites.

1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.040
<v Speaker 4>And that's what gets these motherfuckers off.

1:24:15.920 --> 1:24:18.400
<v Speaker 2>More than anything, I think is being able to have

1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:21.719
<v Speaker 2>a Your thing is control, Like there's nothing more like, Yeah, it's.

1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Like they're basically training a dog. They're like, when I

1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>can take the dog off leash, that's when I know

1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I've like really trained my dog, you know, like.

1:24:30.960 --> 1:24:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And she said, like on these trips we've heard before.

1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>She felt paralyzed to escape or ask for help. Then

1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:41.120
<v Speaker 2>when she turned eighteen, she said to him, this situation

1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:44.120
<v Speaker 2>must come to an end. One of us has to die.

1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:47.439
<v Speaker 2>There's no way out anymore. And she said he was

1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>quite chill about it, like in a way that she

1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>was shocked by his chillness, like he also got that

1:24:54.280 --> 1:24:54.679
<v Speaker 2>or something.

1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:55.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but on August twenty third, two thousand and six,

1:24:58.240 --> 1:25:01.360
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to clean his car, and so he ordered

1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:04.559
<v Speaker 2>her to clean the fucking van that abducted her, and

1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:06.439
<v Speaker 2>he plugged in a vacuum and gave it to her

1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to start cleaning. But then his phone rang and he

1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:12.360
<v Speaker 2>took a phone call and stepped away. So for the

1:25:12.439 --> 1:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>first time since nineteen ninety eight, she was outside and

1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>alone and in her like she just told herself, like

1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>she just said, like run, run, damn it.

1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:22.439
<v Speaker 4>Run.

1:25:22.880 --> 1:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>So she raced through the open gate, and the neighbors

1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:29.360
<v Speaker 2>were really suspicious of the frantic woman, and one homeowner

1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>finally did call the police after she pled for help

1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to passers by who did not help her and they

1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:34.439
<v Speaker 2>all ignored her.

1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, so hairy. She finally ran away I now.

1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>And she was held captive for a total of threeenty

1:25:42.280 --> 1:25:44.519
<v Speaker 2>ninety six days, and that is the title of her book.

1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:48.280
<v Speaker 2>The next day, she learned that pricklow Pail lied down

1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:50.479
<v Speaker 2>on train tracks and the train the train ran over

1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:54.559
<v Speaker 2>his head and he died. But my god, but before

1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he did it, he went to his friend Ernst and

1:25:58.120 --> 1:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>confessed everything in the car and so then his friend

1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:04.120
<v Speaker 2>drove him to the train station to kill himself. So

1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I, of course, when I hear that

1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:10.479
<v Speaker 2>someone like this is no longer alive, I'm like, fuck,

1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:12.439
<v Speaker 2>that put him in a cage, in a cage for

1:26:12.479 --> 1:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the rest of his life. Yeah, but she felt differently.

1:26:16.080 --> 1:26:19.519
<v Speaker 2>She goes it was over and she was free. Yeah,

1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that's how she felt. She's like, it's done, he's dead. Yeah,

1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you can never be like bloodlust.

1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he can never like escape from jail and

1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>then like come after her, you know, like because even

1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:32.519
<v Speaker 1>though you want to see him like jailed and like

1:26:32.600 --> 1:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in a cage forever, it's like she might have the

1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>psychological like just fear that he could still get out

1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>or get parole or I don't know.

1:26:40.920 --> 1:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and another classic thing that always happens the cops

1:26:48.000 --> 1:26:51.759
<v Speaker 2>got a tip about him, he was interviewed. They felt

1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>like he was harmless, straight up an early suspect because

1:26:56.920 --> 1:27:00.120
<v Speaker 2>a witness had seen him in a white hand, but

1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>cops just didn't think he looked like a monster. Jesus

1:27:06.120 --> 1:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>always always these motherfuckers.

1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:11.479
<v Speaker 4>So now she is out and.

1:27:13.000 --> 1:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of attention, and unfortunately the first

1:27:16.520 --> 1:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>words did not really settle with the world really well.

1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:24.559
<v Speaker 2>She said that she mourned for him, and so people

1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>were very confused and disgusted by her, and she started

1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:30.599
<v Speaker 2>getting hate mail, which of course makes sense for people

1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to do, you know, sending hate mail to a who

1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>was kidnapped and held and tortured for eight years, But no,

1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>for sure send her a hate letters because you don't understand.

1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>She just felt like everything was so humiliating, and it

1:27:43.080 --> 1:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was humiliating to be in that situation. So she had

1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>to pretend she was at a spot when she was

1:27:47.320 --> 1:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>getting bathed, like, she had to pretend that he was

1:27:49.400 --> 1:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>like serving her when she got food, like she had

1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.280
<v Speaker 2>to go into these places to be able to survive.

1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>And as a teen, of course, he became harder and

1:27:56.680 --> 1:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>harder for her to do that. So that's when she

1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>started rebelling little bits and pieces, but she gave into

1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>his delusions and in turn he trusted her. Like she

1:28:06.080 --> 1:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>had to get get to those field trips to get

1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>to a place to like build the confidence to leave,

1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>and so the delusions helped her, and she understood he

1:28:15.120 --> 1:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted an arian servant and an adoring companion, and she

1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:21.639
<v Speaker 2>gave it to him. And like he dyed her hair

1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, like he wanted a specific thing, and she

1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:30.120
<v Speaker 2>had to give into these things to give him what

1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>he wanted. And she understood all this at a really

1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:36.400
<v Speaker 2>young age, So then things get kind of confusing. She

1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>bought the house where she was imprisoned. No, she bought

1:28:41.080 --> 1:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it at twenty years old in two thousand and eight.

1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>She says she decided to do bick because there's a

1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>few things so that I found. She didn't want it

1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>to be vandalized or torn down to make way for

1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a new house. But she also says it was like

1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to prevent it from becoming a shrine for crazy fans.

1:28:57.520 --> 1:29:00.080
<v Speaker 2>She said it is a house of horrors, and and

1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that she hates having to pay for utilities for a

1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:04.040
<v Speaker 2>house I never wanted to live in.

1:29:04.760 --> 1:29:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, So that's confusing to.

1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Me, but like, okay, wait, sorry, you keep writing that

1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>she owned the house. Was she living in it or

1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:15.559
<v Speaker 1>did she just buy it to like have it and

1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>keep it there and so that no one could fuck

1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:18.799
<v Speaker 1>it up or do anything?

1:29:18.920 --> 1:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Was she living in it?

1:29:20.479 --> 1:29:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I could not find definitive gotcha information on that, so

1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't include it. It seems to me like

1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>she does live in it, but I did not see

1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that anywhere, and I hope she doesn't, but I don't know.

1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:36.240
<v Speaker 4>I hope so too.

1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's like a reclamation of the space

1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that you were forced to like build. I mean, she

1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>had to renovate it. He had, he made her renovate

1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the place.

1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Right, Oh my god, it is so disturbing.

1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if anyone has information on that, I mean,

1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:53.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of books and stuff, so like maybe

1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll be able to like find out more and more,

1:29:55.400 --> 1:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>but not in what I had. Yeah, so I'll the

1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>book three twenty ninety six turned into a movie, and

1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>she was even a talk show host for a little bit.

1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:10.120
<v Speaker 4>So yeah. Her dad came forward and said she was lying.

1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Some German weekly paper printed it, that all everything was

1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:18.120
<v Speaker 2>a lie and that she waited till she was eighteen

1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>on purpose so she didn't have to go to a

1:30:19.840 --> 1:30:23.519
<v Speaker 2>foster care situation or be with her parents.

1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:26.880
<v Speaker 4>So I wrote, fuck you, how dare you? But not

1:30:26.920 --> 1:30:28.800
<v Speaker 4>only that, she.

1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Said like she was offended by Like she was so

1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:33.439
<v Speaker 2>offended by this, because she goes, I would much like

1:30:33.479 --> 1:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>she goes, my mom was a dumb bitch, but I

1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:38.519
<v Speaker 2>would have rather had my freedom with this dumb it,

1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Like how dare you fucking say that I would rather

1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.599
<v Speaker 2>be kept in this fucking like that's the most insulting

1:30:43.640 --> 1:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>thing of all these lunatics that were bullying her, like

1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that she wanted to be there overgoing to school old.

1:30:53.000 --> 1:30:55.720
<v Speaker 4>They're like, why didn't you escape sooner? You waited? Why

1:30:55.760 --> 1:30:59.160
<v Speaker 4>did you wait till eighteen? Maniacs? That's what I mean?

1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>And like she dose seem really smart in a way

1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>of like analyzing people and why they think what they think,

1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and like how like she is really good. So then

1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I found I stumbled upon a case I'd never heard of.

1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>An Algerian man went missing and he was held for

1:31:14.720 --> 1:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty six years in his neighbor's home two hundred meters

1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>away from where he grew up.

1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, twenty six years. It's just like my

1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>night it's just a nightmare. It's such a it's a Yeah.

1:31:32.160 --> 1:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if there's an SVU about this, but also

1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>this might have Yeah, he was taken in nineteen ninety

1:31:38.000 --> 1:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>eight at nineteen, so what's twenty six years.

1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:46.559
<v Speaker 4>I feel like this is recent. Yeah, I means he

1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:47.559
<v Speaker 4>just got out then.

1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this article is published twenty twenty four. Did this

1:31:53.800 --> 1:31:56.479
<v Speaker 2>just happen? Yeah, this is breaking news, honestly.

1:31:56.520 --> 1:31:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:31:56.720 --> 1:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>May seventeenth, Algerian man missing for twenty six years found

1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>captive a neighbors seller.

1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. And he's forty five.

1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And because there was such political unrest and war and

1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:13.639
<v Speaker 2>fucked up shit happening, his family just assumed he died

1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the war.

1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:19.920
<v Speaker 4>And was not found. Oh my god.

1:32:20.160 --> 1:32:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he disappeared during the Algerian Civil War in the nineties,

1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>so that.

1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Was ninety eight.

1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you were Yeah, this this guy just got found.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy. All these articles are from literally nine

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, like ten days ago. This is crazy. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Oh my god. All right, well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this. Yeah, harrowing research. Liza Cheese. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would just stop fucking keeping basements for captivity basements.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop end the captivity basements.

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<v Speaker 4>And building them.

1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:55.559
<v Speaker 2>But if people are buying concrete, like I don't know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what we do, like because when a lot

1:32:57.600 --> 1:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of times when they're looking for people, they do like

1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of like geothermal like things where they try to

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<v Speaker 1>find like sub basements and stuff like that.

1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:08.360
<v Speaker 4>But we can't like check everybody's house. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we should.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on. We've got a fun guest, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited about today's guest. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>is a comedic actor who you definitely know from forgetting

1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Marshall and accepted she is was a lead on

1:33:29.560 --> 1:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the show Those Who Can't on True TV. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>she will always be the beloved Tammy little nut from

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<v Speaker 1>Strangers with Candy, as well as Hope the eco activist

1:33:39.760 --> 1:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in today's episode, and that, of course, I am talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the very talented Maria Thayer.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out our convo. Wow, welcome. We're so happy you're here.

1:33:49.520 --> 1:33:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I'm thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll get to it later because we have

1:33:54.760 --> 1:33:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to talk as you first, but I'm like the biggest

1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Strangers with Candy Fan and I cannot believe I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Tammy little nut right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really really wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and this is a dream of an episode. Just

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<v Speaker 2>oh you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I just watched it this morning, uh, for the first

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<v Speaker 7>time in how long twenty years or twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably right, yeah, two thousand and six, yeah, eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god. Yeah, I don't know if I ever

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<v Speaker 7>had seen it. And also I don't think I ever

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<v Speaker 7>have seen an SVU episode.

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<v Speaker 6>No, wow, really no, I don't think I ever saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you're really lucky because you're in my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Mrs Hargate hairdo. Yes, that's Persephone is that's my favorite

1:34:43.080 --> 1:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>era her hair.

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<v Speaker 6>I wondered it was like beautifully curled.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know that people would really buy her

1:34:52.720 --> 1:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>as like an eco terrorist, Like the hair was too good,

1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Like come on, they certainly.

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<v Speaker 6>Made my hair frizzy. I mean, it was naturally pretty,

1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:04.720
<v Speaker 6>but they did. I looked like an eco terrorist and

1:35:04.800 --> 1:35:06.200
<v Speaker 6>she looked very cofft.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you looked really you guys were both very well

1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>good hair eco terrorists.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yeah, because have you always been redhead you're

1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:20.760
<v Speaker 4>a natural redhead. Always read hair. No one touched it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, less and less natural as as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 4>For all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you had already done criminal intent, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a few years earlier. Yes, and then this SPU part

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<v Speaker 1>like do you remember like getting it? Do you remember them?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did they just come to you at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>Because but at the point time you did this, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>already done like a lot of TV.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I don't remember, but I think that this

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<v Speaker 7>one they offered me.

1:35:52.000 --> 1:35:53.960
<v Speaker 6>I certainly was not offer only.

1:35:53.880 --> 1:35:58.360
<v Speaker 7>At that point, but I uh, I definitely uh.

1:35:58.920 --> 1:36:01.280
<v Speaker 6>I think I think I for like a part, a

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<v Speaker 6>little part like this.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they becav maybe offered me.

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<v Speaker 7>I think in between, I had gotten a job, I'd

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<v Speaker 7>done a play, and I'd gotten a job on Law

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<v Speaker 7>and Order, the original one where I was going to

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<v Speaker 7>get to shoot somebody in court, and I was so excited,

1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:19.800
<v Speaker 7>but the play was and wouldn't let me do it.

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<v Speaker 7>So this this came along like months later, and I

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<v Speaker 7>was very excited.

1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:26.719
<v Speaker 6>I know, I'm so rarely the evil person.

1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:30.759
<v Speaker 7>I was just very excited that I could possibly get.

1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm also mad at this the play that you were in.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, there was a lot of things to be mad

1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:39.840
<v Speaker 7>about in that play. It was like a it was

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<v Speaker 7>a vanity project for somebody, if I remember correctly.

1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But the year that you did this, SVU, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is the same year that you play Will and Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not Will and Grace. You played Grace's daughter on the

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<v Speaker 1>season on the series finale, Will and Grace.

1:36:55.080 --> 1:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if SVU, like an NBC just had

1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you on the brain with casting and yes, sent you

1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>this part.

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<v Speaker 7>I've done this so long and I don't understand what

1:37:04.280 --> 1:37:09.599
<v Speaker 7>how Yes, oh yeah, But then when the show came back,

1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:12.639
<v Speaker 7>when the show was rebooted, they just erased the thought

1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:12.920
<v Speaker 7>of her.

1:37:13.120 --> 1:37:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I know, I know, so funny.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I said, behind the what of the creators?

1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:21.759
<v Speaker 6>Is like, what are the creators like Max Mushnik?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, behind him in a theater at a at

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<v Speaker 7>like a Stephen Sondheim play in New York like around

1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:31.320
<v Speaker 7>that time, and he was like, I'm sorry, we had to,

1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:34.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, make you not exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>I was in the final bow for Will and Grace.

1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

1:37:41.800 --> 1:37:45.839
<v Speaker 7>And uh it was just sort of a mistake because

1:37:46.880 --> 1:37:49.440
<v Speaker 7>because they you know, at the end of every episode

1:37:49.439 --> 1:37:52.679
<v Speaker 7>they would, you know, push everybody out and we'd all bow.

1:37:52.760 --> 1:37:55.880
<v Speaker 7>But this was like the final bow for their you know,

1:37:56.000 --> 1:37:58.360
<v Speaker 7>years and years of and it was me.

1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:00.559
<v Speaker 6>It was it was uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Deborah Messing, Uh, I'm gonna forget everybody's.

1:38:03.560 --> 1:38:08.040
<v Speaker 6>Name, MAKINGE. Hayes and uh.

1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Will, Eric McCormack, Eric friend of our Mad cast, Eric Well,

1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:17.760
<v Speaker 4>so Zebra Messing. We just haven't had her on but yes, yes,

1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:19.360
<v Speaker 4>of course your actors.

1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:21.919
<v Speaker 6>But they so they and then and then me and.

1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:27.439
<v Speaker 7>Who ever played uh Will's son went out there and

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<v Speaker 7>we're all six of us bowing, and at some point

1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:34.679
<v Speaker 7>I was like, this is crazy. So I pulled uh

1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:39.439
<v Speaker 7>Will's son off because you know, Seinfeld had had ended

1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:44.680
<v Speaker 7>years before that. It was such an iconic last bow. Anyway,

1:38:44.920 --> 1:38:45.720
<v Speaker 7>we're in the last back.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have definitely been like, are we supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be here?

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<v Speaker 2>Opposite I would have stuffed myself into that bottle. Was

1:38:54.200 --> 1:39:00.679
<v Speaker 2>more like you, oh my gosh, well you're also looking

1:39:00.680 --> 1:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>through your IMDb, it seems like you're in all the

1:39:03.400 --> 1:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>comedy got like you.

1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Know, Mulaney, Louis Marin, You're you're you're the go to Wow.

1:39:09.439 --> 1:39:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I like that. Portlandia the League a cool. Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were younger doing theater, like starting acting,

1:39:17.760 --> 1:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>was it were you always comedy forward or did you

1:39:21.000 --> 1:39:22.799
<v Speaker 2>fall into that through Strangers with Candy.

1:39:22.960 --> 1:39:24.880
<v Speaker 6>I think I fell into it was Stranger with Candy.

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<v Speaker 6>I I mean, I've always loved comedy.

1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:31.080
<v Speaker 7>At comedy comedy, I can't even and I love to laugh.

1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:33.519
<v Speaker 7>I've always been a good laugher and I just I

1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:34.840
<v Speaker 7>have such a great time.

1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.519
<v Speaker 4>But I went to.

1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:42.240
<v Speaker 7>Drama school like drama, and I thought that I was

1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:44.639
<v Speaker 7>going to be like Juliet for the rest of my life.

1:39:44.680 --> 1:39:46.479
<v Speaker 7>I thought I was going to be in Shakespeare plays.

1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:50.400
<v Speaker 7>And I my first job out of school, Amy Sidera,

1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:53.040
<v Speaker 7>saw me in a play at Juilliard where I had

1:39:53.080 --> 1:39:57.400
<v Speaker 7>no lines and I just screamed and talked to myself.

1:39:57.439 --> 1:40:00.559
<v Speaker 7>I was just like, very weird, and she told me

1:40:00.640 --> 1:40:02.880
<v Speaker 7>she was like, that's she's like that one.

1:40:02.920 --> 1:40:06.640
<v Speaker 6>I like that one, and so they I love it.

1:40:06.640 --> 1:40:08.800
<v Speaker 6>That's how I ended up It's Stranger with Candy.

1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:11.240
<v Speaker 7>And I think because that was my first job, it's

1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:14.120
<v Speaker 7>like that has continued and I haven't minded.

1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:16.479
<v Speaker 6>It because I love comedy.

1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:18.920
<v Speaker 7>It's so much more fun to be on a comedy

1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:22.960
<v Speaker 7>set than a drama set. It's just great. But I

1:40:22.960 --> 1:40:27.360
<v Speaker 7>don't know if I'm like a funny I mean I'm okay,

1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:30.920
<v Speaker 7>but like, you know, I don't know anyway. That's that

1:40:30.920 --> 1:40:34.160
<v Speaker 7>that I think that has that has really uh, that

1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:38.200
<v Speaker 7>show really pushed my career in a different way than

1:40:38.240 --> 1:40:38.640
<v Speaker 7>I would have.

1:40:38.880 --> 1:40:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we also love hearing a plucked from a play story.

1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's amazing.

1:40:46.880 --> 1:40:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Amy Sedaris is just like I'm so obsessed

1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>with her, like, and what I love is that your

1:40:52.280 --> 1:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>character in Stranger with Candy is Tammy little Nut and

1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.439
<v Speaker 1>then she calls you Tamila, and so like on your

1:40:57.439 --> 1:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>IMDb it says Tamila, Tammy little Nut. It's like, like,

1:41:01.439 --> 1:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that's your given name is Tamilla. It's too funan she

1:41:04.360 --> 1:41:05.559
<v Speaker 1>so calls to be Tamba.

1:41:08.080 --> 1:41:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

1:41:09.280 --> 1:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>So but you did say like being on a comedy

1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>sets obviously more fun. But we do do hear that

1:41:15.560 --> 1:41:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Maurici guy's a good sense of humor. They try to

1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>keep it light off set. So how was being on

1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the SV set?

1:41:21.200 --> 1:41:23.320
<v Speaker 7>I mean, again, it's been so long, but I do

1:41:23.880 --> 1:41:25.720
<v Speaker 7>I remember a couple of things. I think she had

1:41:25.760 --> 1:41:29.080
<v Speaker 7>just recently had her baby during like in real life.

1:41:29.160 --> 1:41:33.080
<v Speaker 6>And she was just like very I remember her being her.

1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:37.160
<v Speaker 7>Being very kind and uh and also she seemed like

1:41:37.240 --> 1:41:40.280
<v Speaker 7>she had it all, like she had a baby and

1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:44.519
<v Speaker 7>she was breastfeeding her baby. She had some handsome actor husband.

1:41:44.560 --> 1:41:46.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if there's it, but she was like

1:41:47.360 --> 1:41:55.680
<v Speaker 7>very handsome. She's beautiful, and uh, yeah, I I it was.

1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:58.519
<v Speaker 7>It was a It was a lovely set. I can't

1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:02.599
<v Speaker 7>say the same thing about like Sea. Oh, thank you

1:42:02.680 --> 1:42:05.800
<v Speaker 7>for giving us tea. We've heard we've heard though, Yeah,

1:42:06.240 --> 1:42:06.920
<v Speaker 7>sure we heard.

1:42:07.120 --> 1:42:07.559
<v Speaker 4>I thought you.

1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I thought I heard c s SID and I was like, oh,

1:42:09.640 --> 1:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we've never heard that. Yeah, criminal criminal intent, we've heard that.

1:42:13.760 --> 1:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's yeah.

1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, Kara famously was a page during that time, right

1:42:20.000 --> 1:42:21.920
<v Speaker 2>or I was a page at NBC, and I had

1:42:21.920 --> 1:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to bring Vincentinofrio and Catherine Urby like spa packages and

1:42:26.240 --> 1:42:27.720
<v Speaker 2>he would not come out of his trailer for like

1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole day because it was too hot, and so

1:42:30.000 --> 1:42:32.080
<v Speaker 2>they were just holding filming for hours and hours and

1:42:32.120 --> 1:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>hours because he's just like, it's too hot out.

1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming outside, Like I've heard that, And then

1:42:38.080 --> 1:42:39.679
<v Speaker 1>other people have told us that as well.

1:42:39.720 --> 1:42:41.960
<v Speaker 7>It's so funny because people are so funny because he

1:42:42.120 --> 1:42:45.240
<v Speaker 7>was so like very like we got to get that.

1:42:45.600 --> 1:42:47.080
<v Speaker 6>We like, he did.

1:42:46.880 --> 1:42:50.160
<v Speaker 7>Something that I've never seen before or since, where he

1:42:50.320 --> 1:42:52.960
<v Speaker 7>was like he thought things were moving too slow.

1:42:53.200 --> 1:42:53.720
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1:42:54.120 --> 1:42:56.120
<v Speaker 7>And it's so funny because of course he's like slowing

1:42:56.120 --> 1:42:58.519
<v Speaker 7>things down by not taking but but.

1:42:58.640 --> 1:42:59.840
<v Speaker 4>He was he was like we.

1:42:59.760 --> 1:43:01.280
<v Speaker 6>Gotta oh, we gotta go. And he was like, I'm

1:43:01.320 --> 1:43:03.280
<v Speaker 6>gonna start acting in ten seconds.

1:43:03.640 --> 1:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Ten.

1:43:04.400 --> 1:43:08.240
<v Speaker 6>He was like a countdown to acting ten nine seven.

1:43:09.560 --> 1:43:11.960
<v Speaker 7>He's like rushing like all the camera people I've never

1:43:11.960 --> 1:43:17.040
<v Speaker 7>seen it, rushing around trying to like like appease this madman.

1:43:18.760 --> 1:43:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

1:43:19.680 --> 1:43:22.600
<v Speaker 7>Anyway, there was one day on set without him and

1:43:22.680 --> 1:43:25.920
<v Speaker 7>it was like the fastest with so much faster.

1:43:26.240 --> 1:43:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Of course, well, I hope he's changed it a little

1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:34.400
<v Speaker 2>because he does play himself on BoJack Horseman and it's

1:43:34.520 --> 1:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>him being a maniac on set, okay, And so I

1:43:38.520 --> 1:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>just so hope there's been reflection, yes, because this.

1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:46.200
<v Speaker 6>Is eighteen years ago, so yeah.

1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>But he I forgot what season it was, but he

1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:49.880
<v Speaker 2>plays like this maniac doing a monologue on set while

1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone's trying to work.

1:43:50.920 --> 1:43:53.080
<v Speaker 4>So I just hope he has a sense of humor now.

1:43:53.520 --> 1:43:55.479
<v Speaker 6>Yes, he's very here.

1:43:55.840 --> 1:43:59.240
<v Speaker 7>So it was so fun to watch this this episode

1:43:59.680 --> 1:44:01.519
<v Speaker 7>just be because I I was like.

1:44:01.479 --> 1:44:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh, this show is really good. Your listeners know.

1:44:06.960 --> 1:44:11.320
<v Speaker 7>That, but I I didn't know how how how like

1:44:11.640 --> 1:44:13.040
<v Speaker 7>how it hums along.

1:44:13.360 --> 1:44:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I also loved you in the hospital call someone a fascist.

1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:20.240
<v Speaker 2>It was just very gen z. It was just very

1:44:20.280 --> 1:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>up today to me. Yeah you fascist?

1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

1:44:25.240 --> 1:44:27.559
<v Speaker 6>I was surprised at, like, how sort of funny it was?

1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

1:44:29.760 --> 1:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And did you guys have fun banter during that day?

1:44:32.439 --> 1:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Like how, yeah, were you having fun in the hospital

1:44:35.280 --> 1:44:37.559
<v Speaker 2>beds when you guys were coughed to a bed together?

1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:42.959
<v Speaker 7>I don't remember. I'm sorry, I I okay, I don't remember.

1:44:43.080 --> 1:44:46.200
<v Speaker 7>I bet we didn't because I was so.

1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:48.400
<v Speaker 4>In awe of her.

1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:52.960
<v Speaker 7>But I can't imagine bantering with someone that I thought

1:44:53.000 --> 1:44:54.160
<v Speaker 7>was a beautiful goddess.

1:44:55.000 --> 1:44:55.639
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

1:44:55.880 --> 1:44:56.959
<v Speaker 6>You know that's.

1:44:57.280 --> 1:45:00.679
<v Speaker 7>My my my way of dealing with people that I

1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:07.920
<v Speaker 7>uh love and admire so much, I almost nag them.

1:45:08.520 --> 1:45:14.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't mean to, but I just can't handle my emotions.

1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:17.160
<v Speaker 6>I met Andrew Scott at a party a couple.

1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:22.920
<v Speaker 8>Weeks ago, and I was introduced to him, and I

1:45:22.960 --> 1:45:25.920
<v Speaker 8>had like I love him and everything I had just

1:45:26.080 --> 1:45:30.640
<v Speaker 8>recently watched like some like three hour taped hamlet that

1:45:30.680 --> 1:45:33.040
<v Speaker 8>he did on stage, So like that's a pretty deep

1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:34.439
<v Speaker 8>cut in Andrew Stoff.

1:45:34.479 --> 1:45:37.040
<v Speaker 6>But he was, you know, wonderful in it.

1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:42.320
<v Speaker 7>Anyway, when I was introduced to him, I I immediately

1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:44.559
<v Speaker 7>forgot his name and then asked him what his name

1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:48.320
<v Speaker 7>was again, made him reintroduce itself to me.

1:45:49.880 --> 1:45:51.920
<v Speaker 6>Not not to like show him that I was better

1:45:51.920 --> 1:45:52.240
<v Speaker 6>than him.

1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:56.679
<v Speaker 7>I just couldn't handle it, and then my mind went blank,

1:45:56.840 --> 1:45:57.400
<v Speaker 7>and then I.

1:45:57.479 --> 1:45:59.160
<v Speaker 6>Just talked about wordle.

1:46:00.160 --> 1:46:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Well to the best people.

1:46:03.080 --> 1:46:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm a wordle connection strands mini crossword every day

1:46:09.640 --> 1:46:13.599
<v Speaker 2>at midnight, I can't get enough. Like I'm out at parties, bars, events,

1:46:13.960 --> 1:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>on my phone in a corner playing at midnight.

1:46:15.960 --> 1:46:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I can't. I can't get it out.

1:46:17.640 --> 1:46:20.040
<v Speaker 6>You just to go bag bag baby bang at midnight.

1:46:21.160 --> 1:46:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or like if I can't get the war, like

1:46:23.520 --> 1:46:25.479
<v Speaker 2>if if something's not coming to me easy, I'll go

1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:28.120
<v Speaker 2>to the next game, I'll jump around or and I'll

1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:29.720
<v Speaker 2>cycle through and then if I can't get it, I'm like,

1:46:29.720 --> 1:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll save it for the morning. But I but I

1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:35.240
<v Speaker 2>got Today's in three and I felt really proud because it,

1:46:36.320 --> 1:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh Today's took me five.

1:46:38.320 --> 1:46:40.320
<v Speaker 6>I haven't done today's yet, but.

1:46:41.920 --> 1:46:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure I felt smart. It was.

1:46:44.760 --> 1:46:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a good one, a good day for me.

1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:48.959
<v Speaker 2>But the Strands, So you play the beta game.

1:46:49.200 --> 1:46:50.520
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I play Strands.

1:46:50.800 --> 1:46:54.080
<v Speaker 7>I've heard about Strands from Andrew Scott.

1:46:56.040 --> 1:46:59.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, okay, I love that.

1:47:03.080 --> 1:47:04.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I didn't know about it, but it's so fun.

1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:06.360
<v Speaker 4>It is fun.

1:47:06.439 --> 1:47:07.360
<v Speaker 6>My favorite element.

1:47:08.680 --> 1:47:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Lisa is my gateway drug.

1:47:10.040 --> 1:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Like we were both wordle people and then she's like,

1:47:11.840 --> 1:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta try connections when that was beta, and then

1:47:13.920 --> 1:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm Strands and now I'm mini crossword. If I'm desperate,

1:47:17.120 --> 1:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm even trying out the spelling Bee for a minute.

1:47:19.040 --> 1:47:19.519
<v Speaker 4>But then they came.

1:47:19.640 --> 1:47:21.519
<v Speaker 1>They asked me if they asked me to pay, and

1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, thank you, I do spelling me too.

1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>No, the Strands is cool because it's a twist on

1:47:27.000 --> 1:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a game we already you know. I love that it

1:47:28.720 --> 1:47:30.879
<v Speaker 2>goes wild, and I love that there's a riddle element,

1:47:31.160 --> 1:47:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and I love that Andrew Scott is the one.

1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Who told you about it.

1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Amazing, he's at he's out there, so but he enjoyed

1:47:39.000 --> 1:47:39.599
<v Speaker 2>your nagging.

1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:42.559
<v Speaker 4>He enjoyed I'm not sure if he did, but.

1:47:44.160 --> 1:47:46.280
<v Speaker 7>I wish I would have said something better, but I

1:47:46.320 --> 1:47:47.559
<v Speaker 7>that's how that's how it is.

1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>So that is so funny that the pendulum swings all

1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the way from like adoration to like who are you again?

1:47:55.040 --> 1:47:59.799
<v Speaker 7>I just it's something deeply deeply insecure in me or something.

1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>No.

1:48:02.160 --> 1:48:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I always say, like you don't know what person

1:48:05.760 --> 1:48:08.599
<v Speaker 2>will affect you in what way, Like sometimes your body

1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:11.759
<v Speaker 2>just gets too excited, Like you can't always handle yourself.

1:48:11.960 --> 1:48:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I flop at times, and yeah, it happens.

1:48:16.160 --> 1:48:18.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can't handle yourself. That's what it is.

1:48:19.200 --> 1:48:21.519
<v Speaker 2>And you don't know who it's gonna be, Like it's

1:48:21.600 --> 1:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of shocking. Like one time I talk about this

1:48:23.840 --> 1:48:27.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot on the podcast, but someone brought John Stamos

1:48:27.320 --> 1:48:30.240
<v Speaker 2>to the Comedy Cellar and everyone fell apart. No one

1:48:30.280 --> 1:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>could handle themselves. And you wouldn't think it would be

1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>John Stamos to make everyone crumble at this place where

1:48:35.800 --> 1:48:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of celebs come through. But no one, no

1:48:38.080 --> 1:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>one behaved, nobody so funny.

1:48:43.880 --> 1:48:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, wait, back to SVA the court.

1:48:48.560 --> 1:48:49.320
<v Speaker 4>You remember them?

1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember having to get a cast on your leg?

1:48:52.160 --> 1:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Do they put like a do you remember you ast

1:48:55.200 --> 1:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>or like, what's do you remember that?

1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Actually?

1:48:57.640 --> 1:49:01.080
<v Speaker 7>Because it was so uh no, it wasn't it real.

1:49:01.200 --> 1:49:03.400
<v Speaker 7>It was just like it was just like a big sock.

1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:06.760
<v Speaker 7>It sort of looks like it too. It's like I

1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.160
<v Speaker 7>think it just like slipped on my foot. It was

1:49:09.240 --> 1:49:12.160
<v Speaker 7>not a it was not a made to order a cast.

1:49:12.320 --> 1:49:13.840
<v Speaker 7>It was just like all size fits all.

1:49:14.920 --> 1:49:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I felt bad for your character.

1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's not gonna be protesting for a

1:49:17.760 --> 1:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>minute now, like, not not with a bum leg.

1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:23.320
<v Speaker 6>I was for someone who just broke their leg. I

1:49:23.360 --> 1:49:24.679
<v Speaker 6>was like, I would have given.

1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:29.680
<v Speaker 7>Myself a little bit of notes for that.

1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:33.599
<v Speaker 2>That's hopeful because she was like but Benson was like, oh,

1:49:33.680 --> 1:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>how funny nature got you? And She's like, absolutely not.

1:49:38.400 --> 1:49:40.959
<v Speaker 2>It's such it's a gopher joke, yeah, because.

1:49:41.000 --> 1:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>You rarely ever see Olivia Benson cracking up laughing, and

1:49:45.720 --> 1:49:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that's like one scene where.

1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:49.960
<v Speaker 4>She's like ha, and I'm like, I don't think we can.

1:49:50.080 --> 1:49:51.080
<v Speaker 4>Can you think of another.

1:49:50.880 --> 1:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Time where she's like throwing her head back laughing, like

1:49:54.000 --> 1:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it might be like one of two, Like.

1:49:56.120 --> 1:49:57.400
<v Speaker 4>It's really rare. Yeah.

1:49:57.439 --> 1:49:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I was saying, like Rollin's a season or two ago

1:49:59.680 --> 1:50:02.680
<v Speaker 2>in the Mi Hotel room, maybe when they were playing wine.

1:50:02.760 --> 1:50:06.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they really like to make her suffer. And

1:50:06.120 --> 1:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>we can't think of another time where she's left so good.

1:50:09.800 --> 1:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>A pretty special moment that you got to have with

1:50:11.880 --> 1:50:13.439
<v Speaker 2>her and her amazing hair.

1:50:14.000 --> 1:50:14.840
<v Speaker 6>Have you guys heard this?

1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:16.599
<v Speaker 7>I wondered if you I heard this, Rumber, but it

1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:22.360
<v Speaker 7>was so long ago. Again, that Dick Wolf has.

1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:24.679
<v Speaker 6>A rent control lives in a rent control apartment.

1:50:25.479 --> 1:50:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Have you never heard that.

1:50:26.960 --> 1:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I've heard Andy Wopper lives in a rent control department

1:50:30.160 --> 1:50:31.679
<v Speaker 1>near where I used to live on the Upper West

1:50:31.720 --> 1:50:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Side that's like ten bedrooms and is like six hundred

1:50:34.640 --> 1:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars a month. But I've never heard the Dick Wolf

1:50:37.760 --> 1:50:40.439
<v Speaker 1>rent control. That would be the wildest thing of all

1:50:40.479 --> 1:50:42.280
<v Speaker 1>time because he might be one of the richest people

1:50:42.320 --> 1:50:42.879
<v Speaker 1>on the planet.

1:50:42.960 --> 1:50:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So Kara and I am.

1:50:45.520 --> 1:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>We like to do a thing as friends where if

1:50:47.960 --> 1:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>one of us hasn't seen a movie that the other

1:50:49.960 --> 1:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>one loves, it's like a blind spot and then we

1:50:52.000 --> 1:50:55.479
<v Speaker 2>watch it. And so Kara is about to watch Forgetting

1:50:55.520 --> 1:50:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Marshall, one of my faves that I've seen so many.

1:50:58.360 --> 1:50:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Times, and I've never seen it.

1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>She has not seen you in it yet, but she's

1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>about to But how fun is that?

1:51:04.040 --> 1:51:05.719
<v Speaker 4>What a great movie and what a great part.

1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I that was really fun to be in Hawaii

1:51:11.840 --> 1:51:16.360
<v Speaker 7>for six weeks with Jack McBriar, who I love. Uh

1:51:16.439 --> 1:51:19.920
<v Speaker 7>and uh. We never thought it was going to be

1:51:20.600 --> 1:51:23.439
<v Speaker 7>anything because it just seemed like so I mean, it

1:51:23.520 --> 1:51:25.559
<v Speaker 7>was funny, but it just seemed like so like it

1:51:25.680 --> 1:51:28.200
<v Speaker 7>just felt like sort of like not low red, that's

1:51:28.280 --> 1:51:30.040
<v Speaker 7>the wrong word for it, but it just felt like

1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:33.000
<v Speaker 7>we were all in a wai like I don't know,

1:51:33.120 --> 1:51:36.680
<v Speaker 7>this crew was small. It just everything was being like

1:51:36.800 --> 1:51:39.360
<v Speaker 7>made up on the spot. I just and then it

1:51:39.439 --> 1:51:42.560
<v Speaker 7>had this life that we didn't experience.

1:51:42.760 --> 1:51:44.200
<v Speaker 6>I have a lot of I have sex scenes in

1:51:44.240 --> 1:51:46.080
<v Speaker 6>it that upset my mom, so.

1:51:46.080 --> 1:51:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Being really yeah, okay, yeah.

1:51:48.880 --> 1:51:51.720
<v Speaker 6>They're funny, they're not like nude, but my mom was

1:51:51.840 --> 1:51:55.160
<v Speaker 6>like really upset after I did that movie. They're just

1:51:55.320 --> 1:51:56.320
<v Speaker 6>they're they're just like joke.

1:51:57.000 --> 1:51:59.880
<v Speaker 7>I grew up in a very Christian household, so yeah

1:52:00.160 --> 1:52:03.920
<v Speaker 7>it was. But recently I ran into somebody that had

1:52:04.040 --> 1:52:05.519
<v Speaker 7>seen it was like, I know you, I know you

1:52:05.600 --> 1:52:09.639
<v Speaker 7>from somewhere. This is a Montana And then and then

1:52:09.840 --> 1:52:13.479
<v Speaker 7>she realized that she had seen me in forgetting her

1:52:13.600 --> 1:52:16.439
<v Speaker 7>Marshall and she's like, oh oh, I saw you and

1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:20.160
<v Speaker 7>I and it was obviously like she was embarrassed that

1:52:20.240 --> 1:52:22.720
<v Speaker 7>she had like, oh my god, se me pretend to

1:52:22.800 --> 1:52:26.120
<v Speaker 7>have like joking sex with Jack mcgaar.

1:52:26.360 --> 1:52:30.600
<v Speaker 6>And was like felt like she I don't know. It

1:52:30.680 --> 1:52:32.479
<v Speaker 6>was a Montana version of like a porn star.

1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:32.920
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

1:52:33.680 --> 1:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeahh my god, that's so funny.

1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:40.080
<v Speaker 4>What do you get recognized the most?

1:52:40.120 --> 1:52:41.639
<v Speaker 1>For like when people come up to on the street,

1:52:41.680 --> 1:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>are they like Tammy little nutt Are they like talking

1:52:44.320 --> 1:52:45.240
<v Speaker 1>about you know?

1:52:45.840 --> 1:52:47.759
<v Speaker 6>No, it's it's it's it's really different.

1:52:47.800 --> 1:52:49.719
<v Speaker 7>And always it's a lot of times I can tell

1:52:49.800 --> 1:52:54.120
<v Speaker 7>like if something went to another platform, you know, like yeah,

1:52:54.160 --> 1:52:58.479
<v Speaker 7>like last summer, except it had been on Netflix, I think,

1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:02.479
<v Speaker 7>And that's what I got right now, okay, but I

1:53:02.520 --> 1:53:07.920
<v Speaker 7>think it probably is forgetting Sarah Marshall or accepted. That's okay,

1:53:08.000 --> 1:53:11.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, the cool people know me from strangers with candy.

1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Of course. Of course.

1:53:14.840 --> 1:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I actually saw you at a party once

1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and was too scared to go say hi, oh my.

1:53:19.040 --> 1:53:21.760
<v Speaker 4>God, you were Andrew Scott. Yeah.

1:53:21.880 --> 1:53:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I was like I was like, oh my god, there's

1:53:23.600 --> 1:53:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Timmy little not But I like didn't want to. I

1:53:25.280 --> 1:53:27.679
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to like you know, bother you or anything.

1:53:27.760 --> 1:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And I cannot remember. I cannot remember what it was.

1:53:31.080 --> 1:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>It may have been, yeah, it was in La It

1:53:34.200 --> 1:53:35.519
<v Speaker 1>may have been like it may have been of those

1:53:35.560 --> 1:53:37.280
<v Speaker 1>who can't think or something, but I don't know. But

1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:39.559
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna

1:53:39.800 --> 1:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like I I can't, I can't. I'll be too because

1:53:42.080 --> 1:53:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Strangers with Candy was truly my like favorite thing forever.

1:53:46.240 --> 1:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>My whole family, all my siblings were like obsessed. I'd

1:53:49.320 --> 1:53:51.479
<v Speaker 1>love another movie, you know, let's bring it back.

1:53:53.640 --> 1:53:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I saw that they were talking about another movie at

1:53:56.040 --> 1:53:56.519
<v Speaker 7>some point.

1:53:56.600 --> 1:53:58.479
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but they should.

1:53:58.800 --> 1:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone still around, let's go anyway? Do you

1:54:03.439 --> 1:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>uh what do you have anything coming up, like anything

1:54:05.720 --> 1:54:07.559
<v Speaker 1>that you want our listeners to look out for that

1:54:07.600 --> 1:54:08.519
<v Speaker 1>you're working on or.

1:54:08.600 --> 1:54:12.720
<v Speaker 7>Well, I've started writing for stuff. So I wrote for

1:54:12.800 --> 1:54:16.639
<v Speaker 7>a a Netflix show that's coming out and I don't

1:54:16.680 --> 1:54:19.400
<v Speaker 7>know if this I think it's coming out like May twenty.

1:54:19.520 --> 1:54:21.320
<v Speaker 7>I don't know when this is coming out, but it's

1:54:21.360 --> 1:54:23.639
<v Speaker 7>called Mulligan. It's the second season of a show called

1:54:23.680 --> 1:54:28.040
<v Speaker 7>Mulligan and it's coming again on Well, it's coming out

1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:29.880
<v Speaker 7>next week, so I don't know when this is going

1:54:29.960 --> 1:54:30.120
<v Speaker 7>to be.

1:54:30.200 --> 1:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be yeah, what uh what sitcom?

1:54:37.160 --> 1:54:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, cartoon on what channel? Did you say? Netflix? Netflix? Netflix?

1:54:44.280 --> 1:54:44.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1:54:44.560 --> 1:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I've got a great Guynnie Kang lovely.

1:54:50.200 --> 1:54:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

1:54:52.240 --> 1:54:53.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Dana Carvey.

1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for I'm sorry to remember.

1:54:57.360 --> 1:55:01.640
<v Speaker 6>More there there are. There are whole years of my

1:55:01.720 --> 1:55:03.000
<v Speaker 6>life that I can't remember.

1:55:03.560 --> 1:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, we started a podcast about a show that's

1:55:06.040 --> 1:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>been on since ninety nine. We got a lot of

1:55:07.760 --> 1:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>people on here that have no idea and they are

1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>still graciously agreed to come out and talk about what

1:55:12.880 --> 1:55:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they do remember, so we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Eco terrorist, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, let's get into it post mortem. What to do

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<v Speaker 1>if you're an eco terrorist? Trust no one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is totally off topic, but it came to my

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<v Speaker 2>head because we haven't really spent much time talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you said you got the wordle in one. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you believe it? What?

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<v Speaker 2>So what?

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<v Speaker 1>I got the word proud For some reason, it was

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<v Speaker 1>in my head June Pride month. I go, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they'll do something like that. I wonder if they

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<v Speaker 1>would do like something that was like related And I

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<v Speaker 1>just put in proud and I was like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fun I've never gotten the wordl in one. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so I was shocked, Oh so excited, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>also proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 4>Kill have you done any Pride activities?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, I really want. I used to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Weiho Pride pre kids every single year, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're just a little bit too young. I'm going I

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<v Speaker 1>will take them in the future, but it's just very

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<v Speaker 1>crowded and hot, and I think I'd have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a stroller, and that's just I don't think anybody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will take them to DragCon that is in July.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so cute. I took them to I took

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar to Pickle, who she's a drag queen in La

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<v Speaker 1>who does story Hour, and I took him to that

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<v Speaker 1>and he really liked it. And now anytime I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go to Dragon, he goes, oh, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find Pickle. Like he's always talking about how he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like track down Pickles.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, we have not gotten into the Pride stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the end of school and all these camps

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<v Speaker 1>and all this bullshit.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna figure something out before the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the month.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do something for Pride. And we did

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<v Speaker 1>take out a Pride Library book and we've been reading.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a book of a rainbow book that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talks about pride and being yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>So we I've done that. I've done that much. But

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<v Speaker 4>Pickle doesn't look like a pickle. I'm a little no

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<v Speaker 4>no no.

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<v Speaker 1>But Pickle was there in the kid area when when

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<v Speaker 1>the kids saw the Teletubbies. Do you remember what, like

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<v Speaker 1>when like right by that area where we saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Teletubbies last year that took Pickle hangs out in that

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<v Speaker 1>little kid area. Oh I didn't know that, Okay, yeah, fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and she does and she reads like stories and she's

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<v Speaker 1>she's super cute. And Pickle, when she's not in drag

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<v Speaker 1>is a substitute teacher, I think, or a teacher. So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely out there helping the children walk in nature. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode Eco terrorism, I mean, I wanted to kill

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<v Speaker 1>this FBI man the entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>The post fortum takeaway is, listen to women who are

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<v Speaker 1>good at their jobs. I guess and stop being a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking asshole. And but Jesus, this freakin pharmaceutical man who

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<v Speaker 1>keeps a big uh. You know, I hate to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up bear or man again, but it's like what you say,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a bear is not going to keep me

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<v Speaker 1>locked in a basement room with television and candy from

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<v Speaker 1>the age of nine to seventeen, you know, fucking terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's terrifying. Bad real crime, bad episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did like to tell us about Natasha because

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know about her story, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very familiar with a lot of other captured capturing stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, Fritz sol Goat the most attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what's going on in Austria? Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>any listeners in Austria?

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<v Speaker 3>Thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I was even telling my sister, I'm like, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>an article somewhere in the connection of like post Holocaust,

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<v Speaker 2>like like Germany, Austria vibes.

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<v Speaker 4>A horrible situation. What a Natasha?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like like I said, like I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would not survive these situations.

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<v Speaker 4>I would not.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like and we're done, like day four,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know how I would do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't think I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I could survive a lot of what the survivors we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about have survived.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, Yeah, you would really struggle being alone

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<v Speaker 2>that long.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I would be friending.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be befriending a cockroach very quickly, like Foster

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<v Speaker 1>than Stabler.

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<v Speaker 4>Stabler did it in a day. Yeah, what would you

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<v Speaker 4>do with nothing to organize? Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>The worst was in the episode's Stranger, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously want to like be violent towards the person,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know he knew the code. He would lock

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<v Speaker 2>it on the inside, so if she killed him, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>just like die there too.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's like, I know, yes, but so should I

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<v Speaker 1>move on to our what would Sister Peg Do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds good, okay? Or what would Sister Peg Do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is our weekly segment where we direct you to a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, a blog, an article, a book, an organization,

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<v Speaker 1>something to give you more information about what we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in today's episode and possibly give you the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to donate if you want. But this week we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to point you to Natasha Campush's book that's called three

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<v Speaker 1>thy ninety six Days in Captivity. As you heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa in the episode, this crime is incredibly complicated, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about it, you can

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