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Speaker 1: was supposed to be his roommate or they usually in

433
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Speaker 1: the news called him, called her his companion. So she

434
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: was found in the Philippines. And you know, there's uh

435
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: generations of Islamis in the Philippines, and iis is trying

436
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Speaker 1: to get a tow hold there. Also, where did this

437
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: dude get if his brother is right, where did he

438
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: get his Where did you get his proficiency from? It

439
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: seems a little bit weird how proficient he became so quickly.

440
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: So I just kind of I agree with you on that.

441
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: It just doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't add up, Josh,

442
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: there's something we're missing, something with regard to the proficiency

443
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: the I mean, you know, somebody buys this many firearms

444
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: and and spend this much time with weaponry, you'd think

445
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: his brother would have some inclination, right, And I think

446
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. And for him to say, oh no,

447
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know that he had any interest in

448
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: firearms or guns. Well really, I mean it's just and

449
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: your your point about the about Isis and the Philippines.

450
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Isis Is in a lot of places. And actually the

451
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Ices franchise in the Philippines is quite small overall and

452
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: quite small as a percentage of the population. So the

453
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Morows have been there for a long time. I'm I've

454
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: talked a lot about about the Morrows in fact on

455
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: this show too, But that's the Moro Islamic Liberation Front

456
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: as a terrorist group in southern Philippines. But uh, and

457
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: there's Abusai F there as well, but that's I think

458
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: that's a stretch right now. We have no evidence to

459
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: suggest that anything other than he had. Basically, this guy

460
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend who was Filipino is all we know.

461
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: And a vast majority of folks in the Philippines, never mind,

462
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: are terrorists are actually uh Christian or Catholics. So but um, Josh,

463
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Speaker 1: I'll look, we don't have We can't discount things because

464
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: we don't know yet. Until we know, we have to

465
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Speaker 1: listen to all the possibilities that are out there and

466
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: sift through it. So thank you for calling in team.

467
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have an update shield Si Josh. We're gonna

468
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Speaker 1: have an update from a reporter on the ground in

469
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Speaker 1: Vegas here in just a minute, so stay with me

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Speaker 1: for that. We're talking about the horrific mass shooting in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas over the weekend and to bring us some

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00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: ground truth to update us on where the investigation and

473
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: law enforcement efforts stand. Right now, we have Jason Campadonia

474
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Speaker 1: on the line. He is the NBC West Coast correspondent. Jason,

475
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: thank you for making the time. I know you're very

476
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Speaker 1: busy today. Thank you so much for having me. Please

477
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: tell us what's going on right now? I'm hearing and

478
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: seeing reports of another venue, another home that belonged to

479
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: the shooter paddock that is about to be or just

480
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: has been rated by SWAT. What can you tell us

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely correct? Apparently he's got a couple of homes. Uh,

482
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Speaker 1: and he's made some money with some real estate deals.

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Speaker 1: According to his brother, he's a millionaire. The SWAT team

484
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: was staged out of his house about an hour go

485
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: news cruiser, you know, swarming to get there. Uh. They

486
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: rated his house in Mesquite earlier today, and they weren't

487
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: nice about it. They went in, they busted the garage

488
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: door and started yanking things out. In that home. They

489
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: found eighteen more guns. They found some explosive devices and

490
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: thousands of rounds of ammunition. So it's it's completely unclear

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna find in the home, which is a

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Speaker 1: northern Nevada and a more desolate area than Mesquite. Is.

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Speaker 1: What are law enforcement sources saying about the the status

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Speaker 1: of uh, trying to discern the motive here. If anything,

495
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: don't they have any indicator? Are they going through the

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00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: social media profiles or what can you tell us? So

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00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: the Clark County Sheriff just held a press conference within

498
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Speaker 1: the last hour and he actually told the media to

499
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Speaker 1: back off, said, you guys are way ahead of us,

500
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Speaker 1: and as far as the investigation, you can speculate all

501
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: you want, but I'm not going to talk about motive

502
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: just yet. They've rated the home like we had said,

503
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and about electronics and files and everything else. They're trying

504
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: to get into the mind of this guy because he

505
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't really have any friends. Nobody is stepping up and saying, hey,

506
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: this was a good guy, or this was a guy

507
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: who I thought was going to go off. His brother

508
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: was absolutely no help this morning, who lives in Florida.

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00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: He said that, you know, hey, my brother is a

510
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: regular guy who likes the eat burritos. That doesn't help

511
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Speaker 1: the investigation at all. So trying to get into the

512
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: mind of this guy is going to be of the

513
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: forefront of the investigation, but that's going to take some time.

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00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Clark County Sheriff Office says that the investigation is going

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00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: to be methodical. Were speaking to Jason Campodonia, who is

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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: the NBC West Coast correspondent has been covering the Vegas

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Speaker 1: shooting since the very beginning. Jason, what can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about the status of the firearms that have been

519
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: recovered so far? I've seen reports that they believe that

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00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: they were modified, they could fire on fully automatic. Were

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Speaker 1: they all purchased legally? Do we know yet? I know

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Speaker 1: a t F is running an accelerated trace on them,

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00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: the guns that were found inside the room, and there's

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00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: been reports that went from ten plus to twenty plus

525
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: then back down to fifteen. So those guns in the

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Speaker 1: room were purchased legally as far as we know right now.

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Speaker 1: And what the reports are that the two two, three

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Speaker 1: or three oh eight, which are high powered hunting rifles,

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Speaker 1: had been modified. And those are things that you can

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Speaker 1: buy online or the things that you can make yourself

531
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: if you're good with like a metal aid. You can

532
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: buy these conversion kids for fairly cheap online. Not legally,

533
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: but you can find them. And if you know a

534
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: small amount of gunsmithing, you're able to convert those firearms

535
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: fairly easily. So that's what they're saying that they had

536
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Speaker 1: the semi automatic hunting rifles, the two, two, three, the

537
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: three oh. He had the conversion kid on him to

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Speaker 1: make them fully automatic. And if you listen to the

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00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: tape and you slow the tape down when Jason Aldean

540
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: is on stage and he's getting ready to you sing

541
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Speaker 1: one of his biggest songs, you slow the takedown. When

542
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: the guns start, shot start happening. There's over a hundred

543
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: shots in about thirty seconds. That's how fast those bullets

544
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: are coming out of there. All right, Well, Jason, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us to update us on the latest

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Speaker 1: with the shooting out there in Las Vegas. Jason Capedonia,

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Speaker 1: who is NBC's West Coast correspondent, Jason, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Team. We're going to have more on this

549
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Speaker 1: shooting in Las Vegas as well as um a bunch

550
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Speaker 1: of other topics. Well move move into the second hour,

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Speaker 1: so stay with me, all right, seem welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt. We've been discussing the shooting in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to add in here because I'm sure

554
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of follow on that we're gonna

555
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: do together on this this week. I wanted to add

556
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: in some some pieces of the puzzle that I don't

557
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: know where they fit in, and I don't know if

558
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: they fit into anything really, But there are some other

559
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: uh other data points that are out there. There's some

560
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: other backstory to this that we should be aware of,

561
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: at least as we try to figure out why this

562
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: guy did this. And I don't believe that there's a

563
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Speaker 1: a lesson learned with how we could stop this in

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Speaker 1: the future. Really, though, this will become even more political

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Speaker 1: in the days ahead with the calls for gun control,

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Speaker 1: and already I'm seeing a lot of stories from the

567
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: leftist sites about look at how great Australia is. They

568
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: banned guns, we need to ban all guns. That's a

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Speaker 1: story that's out from the New Republic now, or that's

570
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: a piece out from New Republic. This is this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the moment they really push for gun control.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll go anywhere, but we will have

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Speaker 1: to revisit the same discussions we've had, the same discussion

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Speaker 1: we've had after Sandy Hook, the same discussion we had

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Speaker 1: after the UH Pulse nightclub shooting, when there were these

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Speaker 1: calls for gun control, and many other times as well

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Speaker 1: after the shooting in the theater at Aurora in Aurora.

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00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm not or um Aurora, Colorado. Uh So A few

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Speaker 1: things though, One is that paddocks father was a bank

580
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Speaker 1: robber with a history of violence who I mean was

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Speaker 1: it was a real career criminal and was on the

582
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: FBI's most Wanted list back in the sixties. Um, but

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00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: the shooter had no no criminal background whatsoever other than

584
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: traffic citations. So these are data points. I don't know

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00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: if they're meaningful, but they are worth a little attention

586
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: as we try to piece all of this together. So

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00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: he had a father who was a career criminal, broke

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: out of prison in fact after serving a lengthy sentence,

589
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: and was initially got decades in prison for for bank

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Speaker 1: robbery FBI most wanted So you know that people might

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00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: might take this in discussion of what was there something

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Speaker 1: in this guy's background, you know, with his father, you know, abuse,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I just that seems

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Speaker 1: given what's happened here, the fact that his father was

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00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: a career criminal with with that served decades for a

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: violent crime. Um, I think or sentenced a decade. I

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00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: don't think he served decades. That's noteworthy. There was also

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: this this sound bite from earlier today where a woman

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Speaker 1: who was who was at the Route music event, which

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Speaker 1: was the event that was fired on by Paddock from

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Speaker 1: the Mandelaide Bay. Mental A Bay is a is a

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Speaker 1: huge hotel those you haven't been in Vegas, and he

603
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: was on the thirty second floor with a complete clear

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00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: line of sight, complete clear firing lines, lines of fire

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Speaker 1: into what is a gathering ground kind of like a

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Speaker 1: parade ground where they had set up this outdoor concert.

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00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: But a woman earlier today was on TV and made

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Speaker 1: the following. Now, we we tried to more information on this,

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Speaker 1: We tried to verify this, and I know there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of conspiracy stuff out there. Right now, you've just

611
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Speaker 1: got to separate the signal from the noise with this

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00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: right there. That's conspiracies, especially in a moment like now,

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Speaker 1: are not helpful and they are irresponsible. In fact, they

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Speaker 1: can be really really hurtful given the grieving that's going

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Speaker 1: on by the families and and by the whole nation.

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Speaker 1: And we have flags at half staff, we have a

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Speaker 1: nation in mourning. But here's what we said. I'm playing

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Speaker 1: it for you without without knowing that it is meaningful,

619
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Speaker 1: but it's certainly grabbed my attention. I don't know if

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00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: this is but I can't explain this. I can't make

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Speaker 1: this uh go unless some woman thought she was just

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Speaker 1: gonna lie to NBC News or that she was on

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Speaker 1: an NBC affiliate about what happened, which strikes me as

624
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Speaker 1: incredibly improbable. Well, why would somebody say the following? Then

625
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: if this wasn't said to them, and if this was

626
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Speaker 1: said to them, are we to think that was a coincidence?

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Speaker 1: Let me play it and then this will this will

628
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: make a little bit more sense. We actually weren't there

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Speaker 1: whenever the shooting had occurred. We had already left about

630
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe ten fifteen minutes before that, but we just barely

631
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Speaker 1: made it back into our room whenever it started. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, were you thinking, oh my gosh, this this

633
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: woman told us that before before we left. Yeah, I

634
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: thought I had a positive correlation to it, Like obviously

635
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: she was telling us that either to tell us, to

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Speaker 1: warn us, or to tell us that we were all

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00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: going to die into a part of it. So okay,

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00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: So they want the description of this woman described to me,

639
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: what this woman looked like, her and her boyfriend were

640
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: both Hispanic. They're probably about shorter five footer is probably

641
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: about five five five six. Okay, so you know this

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00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: this is it's unverified. That was aired on on an

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00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: NBC affiliate. This This woman says that another woman told

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Speaker 1: her and her friends at the venue before the shooting started,

645
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: you're all gonna die tonight, now, is it? There? There

646
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: are two possibilities that make this sound bite utterly and

647
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: completely meaningless. One is that the person telling the reporter

648
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: this is just for whatever reason lying, which would be

649
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: under the circumstances beyond bizarre, but it's possible. And the other,

650
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: and perhaps I would I would, I would wager the

651
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: more likely scenario is that this woman said this and uh,

652
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, said you're all going to die, but it

653
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: hadn't didn't was unaware of what was happening, or you know,

654
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: it was unrelated and it was just a completely bizarre coincidence.

655
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this isn't you know, you usually

656
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: don't have people claim to be eye witnesses and and

657
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: things like this and going on TV and um and

658
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: making things up and if it was a quick incidents.

659
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share with you that this woman

660
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: said this to other women randomly before a mass shooting.

661
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I I don't I don't know what

662
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: to make of it other than it struck me. I'm

663
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: sharing some things now with you that just in my

664
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: reading about all these events throughout the course of the day,

665
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind. And I can't say that

666
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I have been able to synthesize this into a I

667
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: don't have a motive. I don't have a UM. I

668
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: don't know where this all goes in terms of, you know,

669
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: how how this attack was put together. Are are some

670
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: people lying? Is his family lying about him not being

671
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: a gun guy? Is his family so distraught that they,

672
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, people that are in extreme situations um of

673
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: public scrutiny, like his immediate family, may respond very strangely,

674
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: very poorly, may lie just because they don't, you know,

675
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: they don't want their family to come under and greater scrutiny. Again,

676
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's early, So that's all very early.

677
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: And I think that the words of the Las Vegas

678
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Sheriff has told to us by our reporter who's down

679
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: there on the ground in Las Vegas, that everyone needs

680
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: to slow it down a little bit that is under

681
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: these circumstances, I think very sound advice. We do not

682
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: have a guy running around yelling alahuak bar as he

683
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: shoots uh innocent by bystanders and and stabs people with

684
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: a knife, and and you know, we find out within

685
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: ten minutes of looking at his computer, law enforcement finds

686
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: out that you know, he was on like I I

687
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: am a jihatas dot com a hundred times in the

688
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: last five days. Right, we don't have that. We don't

689
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: have Oh yeah, he was a weird guy muttering to

690
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: himself in the corner, talking about getting even, and you know,

691
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: dropped off the grid for a while, and we think

692
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: he might have been in a psychiatric hospital for the

693
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: criminally insane for a little bit. I mean, you know,

694
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: we don't have any of that. We've got a guy who,

695
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: by all accounts is pretty well off, seemed to be

696
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: from outside appearance appearances normal, and went through tremendous and

697
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: went to tremendous lengths to kill as many innocent people

698
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: as possible for no discernible reason. Even in the realm

699
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: of the psychotic uh your jihadest or the lone wolf

700
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: gun minute, this doesn't add up. It just doesn't. It

701
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: doesn't add up yet. So it's it's very it's frustrating

702
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: to be looking at all these pieces and not to

703
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: have a more clear picture of what this was, because look,

704
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: it's it's scary. I wasn't there, but I very well

705
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: could have been I had I had just been in

706
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: Vegas over the weekend, and you know, this could have

707
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: been any of us, any of you listening anywhere, you know,

708
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: at a concert. Uh. It shakes us all up. One

709
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: other thing, I'm seeing a little bit of the analysis

710
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: of how maybe this was a political targeting. We've been

711
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: told that the shooter, Paddock, was not political, but again

712
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that's by his family members. Are they just saying whatever

713
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: they think they should say under the circumstances because they

714
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: just can't handle the scrutiny and that I don't know,

715
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they feel like they should have said something,

716
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and this is their way of I don't know. We

717
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: just a lot of a lot of unanswered there um.

718
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: But you've got people that are surmising, I think, and

719
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: and looking at this as a possible uh possibly politically motivated,

720
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: which would make it terrorism. I'm not saying it's not terrorist.

721
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we don't know that it's terrorism yet

722
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: because there's no obvious motive, although you had a senior

723
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: CNN reporter offer up the following earlier today. Something else

724
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: I think to keep in mind, a lot of these

725
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: country music supporters were likely Trump's supporters, and this is

726
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: something that of course is set the tapestry of all Americans,

727
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: and there are going to be victims from across the

728
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: country here. This was in Las Vegas. Yeah, there are

729
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: country music supporters who are Trump supporters. Their country music.

730
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: You know that. I mean a lot of country music

731
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: supporters who are leftists. So I think that's that's weak analysis. Um,

732
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: but I will say that the possibility of a political

733
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: motivation here is still very very real, which would mean

734
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: it is terrorism. And that when when a and obvious

735
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders supporting left wing maniac tries to kill a

736
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: bunch of Republican congressman on a baseball diamond, we we

737
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: know what the motivations. We get it right, It's clear.

738
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: This one is not clear, not yet. Maybe it will be,

739
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: but not yet. All right, I've got every line here.

740
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Let I want to take some calls after this break,

741
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: and then I want to talk to you about because

742
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I know we cannot only discuss this issue although it's

743
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: clearly the most important, most pressing news story in the

744
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: country right now, really in the world right now. Um

745
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: but I won't want to move onto the referendums over

746
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: the weekend because there will be implications of what happened

747
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: in Spain and what is happening in northern Iraq that

748
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: I think have an effect on regional stability and might

749
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: even be a pretty big problem for US, depends on

750
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: how it goes North Korea and the latest in the

751
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: Iran dial I think we will hold off on those

752
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: until tomorrow when I can spend more time on them. Um,

753
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: but we will take your calls and then we will

754
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: move into the secession referendum in Spain. You may be thinking, well, Buck,

755
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: this is what what happens in Spain is not my

756
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: particular concern. It's not just Spain that has a a

757
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: successious movement, and Spain is I think the EU's fourth

758
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: largest economy. If it starts to disintegrate, there are other

759
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: countries that want to fall that may follow suit. And

760
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: this this is look I don't want to I don't

761
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: want to exaggerate it. In the context of the Middle East,

762
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: with kurt A standing in rock. Everybody knows that this

763
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: is very much the case. Wars are often started over

764
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: secessionist movements. Insurgencies are often fought over secession groups. Our

765
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: own Civil War was fought over secession. When a group decides,

766
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: when a group within the larger group decides that it

767
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: wants to form its own state, often the only recourse

768
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: of the state, or the recourse that the state chooses

769
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: at least is violence. This is unsettling stuff, all right,

770
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: But we'll come back with your calls and then we'll

771
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: get into the referendum vote in Catalonia. We'll be right back,

772
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: all right, team, We're gonna take some calls here about

773
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: this Las Vegas shooting. Just an update though, a news

774
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: update for you. Um. It was sixteen guns found with

775
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: the shooter Paddock in the room with him in in

776
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: his suite at the Mandalais Bay Hotel in Las Vegas,

777
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: and an additional ten at least one of his homes

778
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: and another raid of another home. Sorry, eighteen additional at

779
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: his home. So sixteen in the room, eighteen at his

780
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: first home, more guns perhaps at his second property. And

781
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he has several uh and I was also

782
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: telling Tie before that. We were talking about, you know,

783
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: how this went, how this happened, and how could it

784
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: happen during the break And many of you who are

785
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: familiar with farms know that by the kinds of UH

786
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: rounds that he was firing into this crowd of people

787
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: could go through a couple of people, one round could

788
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: hit multiple individuals, especially the three oh eight, and UH

789
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: rounds could bounce, could skip off the ground too. So

790
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: just by flooding this field with fire, they were going

791
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: to be countless casualties. I mean, I don't even think

792
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: he this, This wasn't aiming. This was just putting as

793
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: many rounds into this UH space that was densely packed

794
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: with human beings he possibly could Oh man, uh, it's

795
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's unbelievable. Um alright. Richard and West Virginia

796
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: on w w V A thank for can in ye author.

797
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: I had all the answers, but I don't think I

798
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: have any of them after I heard your guests and

799
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: different things that they found. Though raised another home that

800
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: he had and maybe two homes. He's a millionaire and

801
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: all that, because what I was thinking, I was thinking

802
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Mr obvious that I knew it all. But I don't

803
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: know if he was married before. I didn't even know

804
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: if he was married. I don't ever said he had

805
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. But I was just thinking that, uh, because

806
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: they said he was I heard something today I owner

807
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: who I was said that he had been radicalized. Radicalized,

808
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: but I don't know who said that, but that it

809
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: just goes like, I'm just figure. They said he was

810
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: a gambler, So I just what I was thinking. I'll

811
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: put my hypothesis in there, and I just just thinking

812
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: that he lost all his money gambling. Was a wife

813
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: left thing and I don't even know they had a wife.

814
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: And as kids disarmed me because um bet he lost

815
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: everything and do they have anything left? They put into

816
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: your guest. Uh, he still has another home. And that's sure.

817
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like years old. You're too old. Yeah, this

818
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy is too far outside the you know,

819
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: at a certain point, it's like, how how do I

820
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: know the t s A doesn't have to pat down

821
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: a nine year old woman who's in a wheelchair, you know,

822
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: because I know, how do I know this guy is

823
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: not a not a g hottest because you can you

824
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: can tell, I mean, it would be if he was

825
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: the hottest. He was the most stealth off the radar,

826
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: g hottest that that anyone has ever heard of in

827
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: the history of radicalization. I mean, this guy would have

828
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: been way outside of um of all of the parameters

829
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: you would expect him. And to your point about losing it,

830
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: look he had he had money. So I know you're

831
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: saying that you've had to change your mind or that

832
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: your theory isn't standing up to the recent reporting, but look,

833
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean or no one really knows, but Richard, I

834
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling in man. Thank you. Let's take Matt

835
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Matt, thanks for calling. Yes, I'm good, sir.

836
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, appreciate your time. What's on your mind?

837
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: I was just saying that the woman who may have

838
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: threatened those people, there was a lot of intoxicated people

839
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: at that concert, and people tend to throw around threats

840
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: very easily, So it may have just been some drunk

841
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: woman who was getting escorted out because she was threatening

842
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: people who just decided to say I'm gonna kill you,

843
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill all of you, and it really was

844
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: probably not. I think that's likely the case as I hope,

845
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I I hope I articulated that before. But I do

846
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: also think that it is quite strange for a woman

847
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: to be yelling out right before this event. Uh, whoa,

848
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: what what was that? I'm sorry, I'm walking outside, I'm

849
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: next to West Virgina University and there's a lot of

850
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: are you going okay, okay, okay? Sound early? So that

851
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: those were those were happy yells you're telling me in

852
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: the background okay. Um yeah, I mean I look, I

853
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: I think that it probably was nothing. I just played

854
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: it for you because how how bizarre is that, right,

855
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: that that there was this. I think it is a coincidence,

856
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: but I mean it's quite a coincidence. You're all gonna die.

857
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of events. No one's ever

858
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: told me right and there they're working. You know, It's

859
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: not like, hey, what are you looking at? And then

860
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're all gonna die tonight. I mean, that's

861
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: a pretty specific allegation, or a specific statement, not allegation. So, Matt,

862
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right, but I just I wanted to

863
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: share it because it seemed like a very very strange,

864
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: uh strange thing. So anyway, thank you, very much for

865
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: calling him. Then Brian in North Carolina on w p T. I, Hey, Buck,

866
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: how are you doing tonight? I'm r I Brian, I mean,

867
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: under the circumstances, I'm all right, how are you? Hey,

868
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Hey, I want to dissent a little bit.

869
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: And you're you're an intelligence guy, right, military guy CIA,

870
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: not military but a yeah right, um, And you've seen

871
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: these weapons up close. You know the damage they can do.

872
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: I've fired, but most of the weapons that you would

873
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: be able to rattle off on the top of your head,

874
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: I've fired and trained with them. Yeah, go ahead, right,

875
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: So what does Joe Blow in this country need with

876
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: an A R? Fifth Team? You know, this is an

877
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: issue about gun control? Okay, well, you know, and I

878
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: think maybe this is maybe this is unfortunately only have

879
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: a minute before they're gonna go into a station break here.

880
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: But the the A R is just a semi automatic

881
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: rifle that is among the most most popular rifles that

882
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: are owned in this country. You're talking about literally millions

883
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: of them already in circulation. So even if you even

884
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: if you wanted to ban, I mean, they're it's just

885
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: a rifle. It's a rifle with a folding stock that

886
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: fires each time you depress the trigger. I mean, they

887
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: already have autumn, they already have a ban on automatic weapons.

888
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: And these weren't you know, from the from origin or

889
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: from manufacturer automatic weapons. They were legally balked. And I

890
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: understand that. I understand that. But you have many millions

891
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: of legally bought a R fifteens in millions of them

892
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: in existence that are never used for any crime or

893
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: any ill purpose whatsoever. So what even if you want

894
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's a lot of ways we become

895
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: this argument. And and Brian, maybe I'll address it. I

896
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling. I'm not trying to give it short shrift,

897
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: but um, you couldn't bed them even if you wanted to.

898
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: We'll be back, I know, I said, I've talked to

899
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: you about Catalonia, and I will. But I think given

900
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: that we just had a caller who in good faith

901
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: wanted to address the issue of gun control on error,

902
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I should spend a few minutes discussing how that will

903
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: play out now, how the debate over gun control will

904
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: continue over the next few days is in likely the

905
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: next few weeks. First, one other note, though, and I

906
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: understand that I'm tossing a lot of different things into

907
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: the mix here for our discussion today. But I I

908
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: almost couldn't believe that anybody would be so callous and

909
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: so stupid as what I saw from and this CBS

910
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: executive who was the Senior Council for Strategic Transactions at CBS,

911
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Hailey Gift been Gold was her name, according to the

912
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: rap here, and she posted on Facebook on Monday morning.

913
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: So imagine this. I mean, my my girlfriend came in

914
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: and told me about this first thing in the morning,

915
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I, I was just dumb struck.

916
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, especially cause I've just been in Vegas,

917
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: so it felt particularly eurie and and horrific to get

918
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: the news. And I didn't know how bad it was.

919
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: I just knew there was a big mass shooting. Not

920
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: in a million years would it occur to me to

921
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: think about anything other than, um, oh my gosh, how

922
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: many people have been hurt? Do they have all the

923
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: shooters in custody or dead? Um? Have they? You know,

924
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: what's going on? Here? Are my fellow Americans, are my

925
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: fellow human beings? Okay? And I keep in mind Vegas

926
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: is also a place where you have people from all

927
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: of the world traveling. It's a global destination, so no

928
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: doubt there were, um, there were non Americans who were

929
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: also on the scene, and perhaps even I don't We

930
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: haven't received a list. We don't know the names of

931
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the deceased or the wounded yet, but you know, we'll

932
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: find out more in the days ahead. But that's a

933
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: normal human response to this. When you hear about this,

934
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, that's so terrible. What happened here?

935
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: This is this is not a normal human response. From

936
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: Hailey Geftman Gold, who wrote a post on Facebook if

937
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do anything, were children and we're murdered, I

938
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: have no hope that repugs will ever do the right thing.

939
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually not even sympathetic because country music fans are

940
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: often Republican gun totors. That's end quote. She was fired

941
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: for this by CBS. CBS had no choice. I should

942
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: note that those who were saying things recently about the

943
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: NFL and First Amendment rights, uh, no, you don't actually

944
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: have a First Amendment right to keep your job and

945
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: say anything you want or do anything you want. Obviously,

946
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: So if you want an instance an exhibit of when

947
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: someone crosses a line and is gonna lose their job.

948
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Here is one, and it's not a First Amendment issue,

949
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: and she does not have a right to be a

950
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: senior legal counselor legal advisor for CBS. CBS is a big,

951
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: big news network. By the way, Um, so this was

952
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: not an unimportant job of this person had, but that

953
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: she would take the position. I mean, that's the that

954
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: a sentiment so ugly and so um disgraceful that I

955
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: think a normal person would feel grotesque even thinking it

956
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: for a moment to oneself, never mind saying it out loud,

957
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: never mind posting it publicly. This should a normal person

958
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: would feel shame even thinking this. Oh yeah, you know

959
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: the mostly Republicans at a country music event, she writes

960
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was sympathetic because country music fans are

961
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: often Republicans. That's which she wrote. Ah, this is I

962
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: I hate to say it. She's not the only one

963
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: who thinks this way. No way, she's the only person

964
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: out there with a And I'm not talking about you know,

965
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: hateful internet trolls living in parents basements or whatever. No, No,

966
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean she's not the only person who has influenced

967
01:00:54,040 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: money authority and prestige, who is so disdainful in the

968
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: Trump era of Republicans that she hasn't thought to her

969
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: that he or she has not thought at some point

970
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: or did not think after this. Yeah, well, you know

971
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: country music, So it's it's Republicans. There are others out there.

972
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: There are others out there, which I think goes to

973
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: how deeply deranged much of our political discussion has has become.

974
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how detached from reality is that reality is

975
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,479
Speaker 1: so keep that in mind that you had a very

976
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: senior person at cbscre or a powerful, well paid executive

977
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: at CBS no sympathy, she wrote, or not even sympathetic,

978
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: not even sympathetic. Five people plus who were shot. I mean,

979
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: they might live, but they're gonna live with those wounds,

980
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: physical and mental for the rest of their lives. They're

981
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: at a at a constant. If you don't have sympathy

982
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: for this, you don't have sympathy for anything. You're some

983
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of savage. I mean, it's just I cannot imagine

984
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: thinking the way that this is an embarking. But this isn't.

985
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: This isn't some crazy person who's rolling around, you know,

986
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: in in refuse, in the streets saying this is an

987
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: executive at CBS and then that so this is now

988
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: also where I want to get into the gun control

989
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: debate and discussion. Um, just as you see with Trump.

990
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: In the era of Trump, there have been a lot

991
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: of journalists quote unquote journalists who have come out and

992
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: said it's no longer okay to be unbiased and a

993
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: nonpartisan as if they were in the first place. I know,

994
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: you know that's ridiculous on the space. But the journalist

995
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: who have come out and said that they're dropping there,

996
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: They're going to drop the mask and they're gonna just

997
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: be who they are, say what they want to say,

998
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: are all anti Trump somehow right. They're the ones who

999
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: were pretending to be journalists before Trump and now have

1000
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: decided they're just gonna be open about taking positions. It's

1001
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: all anti Trump. You have a similar phenomenon among journalists

1002
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: after mass shootings like this when it comes to gun control.

1003
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: You don't have objective journalists coming out saying quote and

1004
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: again I think they're not really objective, but you know

1005
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, people who pretend, who go through the

1006
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: pretense of objectivity as journalists. You don't have them come

1007
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: out and say, you know what, I used to just

1008
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: report the news, but now I want to tell you

1009
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: that I'm actually a big Second Amendment defender to a person.

1010
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 1: As far as I know, and I pay a pretty

1011
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: close attention to this. Every journalist who decides that it's

1012
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: going to become advocacy and not reporting is anti gun,

1013
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: anti Second Amendment. That informs the way that we have

1014
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: to now look at the entire discussion and debate over

1015
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: over gun rights that's going to happen now right the media,

1016
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: and this is critical. They conflate gun, gun owners and

1017
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Second Amendment supporters with hillbilly's, Nascar, drap Nascar, attending uh

1018
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: country music, liking right wing people, and they are disdainful

1019
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: of those people, and therefore they think they are righteous

1020
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: journalists and others on the left in being hateful towards

1021
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: gun owners and treat them like they're lesser than because

1022
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: gun ownership and and second time and support is in

1023
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: the minds of the left of the Democrat establishment a

1024
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: perfect stand in for right wing. So all a lot

1025
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: of the support, oh, we need to get rid of

1026
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: we need to get rid of guns, or we need

1027
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: to regulate guns more heavily. Or whatever. A lot of

1028
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: that comes from a place on the left of just

1029
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: uh disdain of hatred for the right has nothing to

1030
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: do with the specifics of gun control, of the laws

1031
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: of preventing the next shooting. That's really not what it's about.

1032
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: And and so I think you have to keep that

1033
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: in mind. Start from that premise. As we see now

1034
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: how the debates will will roll out. Um, here's where

1035
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna They're gonna come at this

1036
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: from a few angles. They're going to say, no one

1037
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: needs this many guns, to which the response will I'll

1038
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: sort of do this almost like a like a one

1039
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: man Q and I um, but not with not questions,

1040
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: this one man statement and answer. I guess an send

1041
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: a statement and answer, UM, no one needs this many guns.

1042
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: Response to that is, Okay, how many guns do you

1043
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: how many guns do you get to have? How many

1044
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: people who have more than one gun? How many people

1045
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: who have more than ten guns are law abiding? Well,

1046
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean legally have those guns, right, are law abiding

1047
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: in all aspects of their lives. So what's the number?

1048
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: What's the acceptable number of guns someone's loves? And who

1049
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: makes that determination? The federal government, the state government. We

1050
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: have already seen the experiment play out, and countless cities

1051
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: and states across the country regular guns really really heavily

1052
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: make it almost possible to get a gun. In fact,

1053
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: violence is likely, based on all the statistics to go

1054
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: up because as the only people who won't have guns

1055
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: for the purposes of violence, our law binding citizens. Chicago

1056
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: is a great case in point. Also, there are plenty

1057
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: of places where there are very um gun friendly laws,

1058
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: plenty of states. Vermont is an excellent where. There's almost

1059
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: Vermonts an excellent example. There's almost no gun crime whatsoever.

1060
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: Now I know there's not a huge population in Vermont either,

1061
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: but there's almost no gun crime. And it's very easy,

1062
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: even though it's a blue state, very easy to get

1063
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: a firearm in Vermont, relatively speaking to other states, certainly

1064
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: compared to New York, New York City has effectively banned

1065
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: firearm ownership. Still gun crime in the city, um, but

1066
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: New York City has effectively banned it. So but the

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Speaker 1: main points of contention there will be how many the

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Speaker 1: guy had so many? Has what thirty guns, forty guns,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But keep in mind that if

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Speaker 1: if he had some proficiency, he only needed a few

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Speaker 1: rifles to kill dozens of the I mean, the number

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Speaker 1: of weapons isn't, you know, prohibitive one way or the

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Speaker 1: other in terms of him being able to conduct an

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Speaker 1: attack like this, Right, if he had five rifles, he

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01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: would have still been able to harm a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of people that he had ten. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: It's not clear that he even fired all the rifles

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Speaker 1: in the room. Maybe he did, Maybe he did not, No, no,

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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't want to reload. He had them all

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Speaker 1: loaded up, and they said hundreds of rounds were fired off.

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Speaker 1: If he had thirty round magazines in each a rum,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he had ten or

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: how many how many were in the room with him,

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Speaker 1: six sixteen, sixteen, If you had sixteen a rs each

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Speaker 1: with a well, even with a ten round, I mean,

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01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: he would have gotten off a lot. But I we

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Speaker 1: we don't know right now. I'm surmising. I'm guessing based

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Speaker 1: on the fact so far. But the number of guns

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: is gonna come under is gonna come under scrutiny here,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's that doesn't change. What are

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: you gonna do is say, Okay, you can only have

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Speaker 1: three guns we're gonna send somebody to prison for their

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: fourth gun. Okay, you can only have two guns. You're

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna send someone to prison for their third? What are

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: you gonna do. People that are violating gun laws don't

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: care about any of these laws, mind you. So criminals

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Mass murderers don't care what the statutes say.

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Speaker 1: And there are over three hundred million guns in circulation,

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01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: it is estimated in this country right now. So banning

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01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: guns entirely is just a fantasy. It's nonsense. But it's

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: the only intellectually consistent position because just limiting guns here

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: or they're changing some cosmetic features, will in no way

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: reduce crime prevent violence, because people that are everything from

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: cartel assassins to deranged uh mass shooting maniacs to you know,

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01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: ge hottest lunatics, they don't care what the statutes say,

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01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: and they can find their way to weapons one way

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: or another. And I should note that in Europe, where

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Speaker 1: it's effectively impossible to legally get guns, they've had plenty

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Speaker 1: of gun violence in the last couple of years. You know,

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: look what's going on in France. Rights people getting a

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01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: K forty seven, very very illegal. I don't think that

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: Geht has cared about that obviously, So on the number

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: of guns, I don't know where they think they take that.

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: Then they'll get into the well, let's band, they're gonna

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: make this into an assault rifle band because they can

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,480
Speaker 1: be modified. I should note that even if the modifications

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Speaker 1: had not been made to his a R. And I'm

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: realizing now I've gone into gun control at the expense

1119
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: of talking with the Catalonian referendum. Apologies. Much of what

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: I want to talk about today we'll get to tomorrow

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: on the rest of the week in the show. I'll

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01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: not forget any of it. Um. But even a semi

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Speaker 1: automatic a R fifteen, if he had a few of them,

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01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: if he just had enough magazines, he'll be able to

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Speaker 1: kill dozens, dozens of people. So it doesn't change that fact.

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Speaker 1: So now you're saying, this is the same thing we

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01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: got into with ford Hood, and you know his the

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Speaker 1: size of the magazines that Nadal Hassan had and New

1129
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: York State has had a ten round magazine. Lim put in,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this this is all just this just creates

1131
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 1: agitation for legal, lawful, patriotic u S citizen gun owners.

1132
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: Doesn't do anything to stop the add guys because they

1133
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: don't care what the laws are. There are so many

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01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: guns that you're never going to get them all out

1135
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: of circulation anyway. There already are regulations in place, There

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: already are bands on automatic weapons. But the number of

1137
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: guns I think is gonna be a big one. And

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: then and then an assault weapons ban. So that's the

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: one too that you can expect in the next few days.

1140
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to get this many guns, they'll say,

1141
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: And you shouldn't be able to get a quote, assault rifle,

1142
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: which is a semi auto a semi automatic rifle, but

1143
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: assault rifle sounds scary, so this is the term that

1144
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 1: people use. Um that also, that means you've got millions

1145
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: already in circulation that you'd have to somehow get out

1146
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: of circulation. And that's just assault rifles, and assault rifles

1147
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: using very very few crimes, and automatic weapons that are

1148
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: legally owned are using practically no crimes. So what is

1149
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: the gun control measure that would have stopped this? The

1150
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: only one that makes sense from a being consistent standpoint

1151
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: is a ban on gun ownership, which is a non starter,

1152
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: which wouldn't stop crime anyway. And even if you thought

1153
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: you could get a Congress to pass that, which you cannot,

1154
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: you could never get the three billion guns in circulation

1155
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: out of circulation. And to do so, it only mean

1156
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: to make sure that the only people with guns are

1157
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: the bad guys. Good guys in civilian life would not

1158
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: have guns. And there's a whole second Amendment that we

1159
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: have to deal with too, there, Okay, I mean, i'm I'm,

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to go on at length about this.

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Speaker 1: Apologies for changing up the schedule here, alright, So, Team I,

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Speaker 1: I promised you that we would get into the referendum

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Speaker 1: in Catalonia, which is a region of Spain, and I

1164
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: cannot do that discussion justice today, Nor can I get

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: into the very tense standoff right now about Kurdistan and

1166
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: Northern Rock and its own independence referendum. These are important

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Speaker 1: stories in the mid East because there could be a

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, a war could break out over Kurdistan and

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: that would not be all that much of a shock

1170
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: quite honestly, I'm not saying would be a major drawn

1171
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: out or but you could see military conflict between US

1172
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: allies NATO, while I with Turkey Iraq as an ally.

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean this is very um unsettling stuff. And then

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01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: in the case of Spain, this could lead to a

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: domino effect of other regions of European states that want

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: notably in Spain, by the way, there's the Basque separatist

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Speaker 1: region of Spain, which I'll give you more of this

1178
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: background tomorrow, so that if you can join me tomorrow night,

1179
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: or if you can listen to the podcast of the

1180
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: show for tomorrow night, you'll know more about referendums and

1181
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: secession movements in Europe and the Middle East and everything

1182
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: else that's or separatist movements. Uh. Then then I think

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: you will get from a whole lot of other places.

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Speaker 1: So I will make a note of that from morrow.

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 1: And I probably got a little caught up in the

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: news events of today in terms of my analysis, and

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01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: um that means that I fell off schedule a little

1188
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: bit with what I wanted to get to you, but

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Speaker 1: I wanted We will port Rico. We will talk about

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico coming up here in just a few moments um.

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01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: And also I will try to lighten things up a

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: little bit in the third hour, because it has been

1193
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: a a tense and difficult day for for all of

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01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: us and I'll have some some closing thoughts just on

1195
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: you know what we can all do and and what

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: what this all, what this all means for us going forward?

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: So alright to um eight four four buck and eight

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: four four to five. I will be right back. Stay

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Speaker 1: with him. First, President Trump attacked her on Twitter, saying,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only

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01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: a few days ago, has now been told by the

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump. Oh really, Donald,

1203
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: you We'll see nasty, hot, nasty. Are you shaking? You

1204
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: want to go smoke a Virginia Slim until your hands

1205
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: stops moving. But say that that complic hated man as

1206
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: hurricane relieved. These people need help. You just did this

1207
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: for white people twice. Do the same thing. God, tell

1208
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: Melania to put on her flood heels, get some bottled water,

1209
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: some food, pack up some extra Atlanta Falcon Super Bowl

1210
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: T shirts, and write them a check with our money.

1211
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: You achieve crack up. That's what passes for comedy these days,

1212
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: my friends. That was one of the uh to quote

1213
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: unquote anchors because it's not really news. They're doing a

1214
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: comedy bit for the weekend update. Over at Saturday Night Live.

1215
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: UM that that they would call or that this individual

1216
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: on a national TV broadcast would call the president the

1217
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: B word and also call him a cracker is both

1218
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: disgraceful and completely unsurprising. I've been telling you for a

1219
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: while that SNL has continued, you just get less and

1220
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: less funny in recent years, and I think it's because

1221
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: it has been infected with the same intense politicization that

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: has come to define some professional sports leagues and any

1223
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: number of other areas of entertainment that used to be

1224
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 1: refuges from this kind of thing. And now sure enough, SNL,

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, and pretty much any television broadcast that's a

1226
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: scripted show from what I can see, has a political

1227
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: bent whenever possible, and sometimes even if they have to

1228
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: jam the politics into an awkward storyline, so long as

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: it serves the purposes of the progressive left, it's more

1230
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: important than actually being funny. And I do find it

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01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: bothers HM that comedians and professional athletes and other people who,

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 1: when successful in their industries are incredibly well paid aid

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: are very privileged individuals and are incredibly well compensated too,

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01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: that they have turned their backs on at least half

1235
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: of their audience, by the numbers, is really annoying and disappointing.

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: But in that clip I played for you, which was

1237
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: just from Saturday Night Live over this most recent weekend,

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: the most troubling aspect is not the incredibly disrespectful language

1239
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: used to describe at President United States. They'll run away

1240
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: from that accusation if it's made, as it already has been,

1241
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: by saying that they're comedians, just as I've told you before,

1242
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: countless comedians, whether Bill Maher, the cast of Saturday Night Live,

1243
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin, whom, by the way, stands right beside Colin

1244
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: Kaepernick in a recent tweet this weekend. I'm sure he

1245
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: thinks that's really helpful to the cause. But they use

1246
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: comedy a sword and shield. They use it dishonestly. It's

1247
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: not meant to make us laugh so much as it's

1248
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: meant to ridicule political opponents. And then when they run

1249
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: into the buzz saw of their own ignorance, when they

1250
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: are exposed for not actually knowing anything or having any

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: depth on the subject matter that the comedian thought it

1252
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: was okay to ridicule the other side for mere moments before,

1253
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: then they're just a comedian man Hank Hank, clown knows on,

1254
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: Clown knows Off. But that's less troubling then the underlying

1255
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: message of that, and you can say, oh, buck, come on,

1256
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: it's a comedy show. It's a comedy show that's doing

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: political commentary at a particularly tense moment in our political

1258
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: conversation right now, and it will be taken as serious

1259
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: by most of the roughly six or seven million people

1260
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 1: who watched that show as and l is lucky because

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 1: it is an institution that really has no competition and

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: so it is able to rest on its laurels just

1263
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: because if it's eleven thirty Eastern and you want to

1264
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: watch something, I guess you might as well turn on

1265
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, although I certainly don't. But the much

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: more problematic message here has to do with the racializing,

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01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: the racial accusations about the female response to Puerto Rico

1268
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: versus the other numerous hurricane disaster areas in recent weeks.

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Speaker 1: And here's how this theory goes, and I saw it

1270
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: getting quite a bit of traction on social media over

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: the weekend. The theory is that Trump, because he's a

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01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: Republican and in the eyes of many progressive commentators, left

1273
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: wing agitators, and activists online. They view him as at

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: least symbolic of, and in some ways sympathetic to white supremacy,

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: that therefore Trump is more willing to send aid and

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Speaker 1: assistance at the federal level to Texas, to Houston, to

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Speaker 1: Florida than he is to Puerto Rico. They're saying that

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Speaker 1: this is a function of racism. And not only is

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: this a scurless and defamatory accusation that's just meant. It's

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Speaker 1: just meant to smear, It's meant to smear the administration,

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 1: it's meant to malign anyone who has supported Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: up to this point. And it just goes into that

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01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: big bin of other allegations, unfounded or in many cases

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: wildly exaggerated, accusations of bias or racism that have been

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Speaker 1: leveled against Trump for a very long time now. But

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Speaker 1: in this case, what makes it so egregious is not

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Speaker 1: just the politicization of the very difficult and desperate circumstances

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Speaker 1: of people on the island of Puerto Rico, who yes,

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Speaker 1: are Americans. I did a segment last week specifically on

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Speaker 1: the history and status of US territory So, yes, Puerto

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Speaker 1: Rico is an island of three million plus US citizens.

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Speaker 1: You know that, and I know that as a New

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Speaker 1: York City UH born and raised local, the Puerto Rican

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Speaker 1: community is enormously important in New York City. It's it's

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Speaker 1: close to a million people in my hometown. So I've

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Speaker 1: had Puerto Rican friends and classmates and neighbors for as

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Speaker 1: long as literally as long as I can remember, as

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Speaker 1: long as I've been living here in New York, which

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Speaker 1: is most of my adult life, almost all of my

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Speaker 1: adult life. And Donald Trump is also a native New

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Speaker 1: Yorker born in as here in fact from the outer boroughs.

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Speaker 1: So the notion that he would be disconnected from the

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Speaker 1: suffering of Puerto Rico because he doesn't have any affinity

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Speaker 1: for or connection to the Puerto Rican people, who yes,

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Speaker 1: are Americans, but are distincting that they come from the

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Speaker 1: island of Puerto Rico. That's just a charge that is

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Speaker 1: is baseless. But when you look at the other part

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Speaker 1: of this, the comparison aspect where they're trying to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at Houston and look at Puerto Rico. First of

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Speaker 1: all different storms with different impacts, I think it's entirely

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Speaker 1: unfair to compare them and just assume that one was

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Speaker 1: just as bad as the other. I think we can

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Speaker 1: all uh come to the obvious conclusion that the infrastructure

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Speaker 1: of Houston and the surrounding area is better than the

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Speaker 1: infrastructure in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is U S territory,

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Speaker 1: but it is a poor area of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Per capita, you have believe a third to a half

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Speaker 1: of the island on Medicaid, so almost half of the

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Speaker 1: island is getting health care welfare, and it has Poverty

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01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: has been a problem, The debt has been a problem

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and the infrastructure that has been

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Speaker 1: largely annihilated by this storm wasn't in great shape to

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: begin with. Now that's no one's fault, that's just the

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01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: reality of the situation right now. But when you look

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Speaker 1: at the comparison of Houston and Puerto Rico as a

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Speaker 1: means of attacking Trump for racism or favoritism or whatever

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01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: it is, Houston is among the most diverse metropolitan areas

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Speaker 1: of the entire country. Houston voted for Hillary Clinton. Not

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: that this should matter at all to anybody, but it

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01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: seems to be a part of the discussion we have

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: to have now because the Left tells so many eyes

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01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Houston is almost Hispanic and Latino. So what is it? Then?

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: It's it can't be racism or politics, or politics driven

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01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: by racism or vice versa, because Houston is a Democrat

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Speaker 1: stronghold with a very large Latin American population, or rather

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Latin American heritage at least. So what is it? What

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01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: is it that drives this notion in the minds of

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Speaker 1: the left that Donald Trump is just so hateful towards

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico that he's doing nothing. What allows them to

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Speaker 1: overlook the enormous federal expenditures already, the thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: of federal personnel on the island doing everything in their

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Speaker 1: power to try and get power back to the people

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01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: of Puerto Rico and to assist them to get the

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Speaker 1: water running it clean water for people to drink, and

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 1: to get people into medical clinics, and to get food

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: on the shelves and and and medicine to those in need.

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: It's all affront to say that it's not enough just

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01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: because it's a bad circumstances, intellectually sloppy, to say that

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: there's ill will because it's imperfect or to do what

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: many of the news outlets did last week, which was

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: to isolate the notion of a good news story and

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Speaker 1: then apply it to what happened overall in Puerto Rico.

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: It's just slanderous, it's just lies. Of course, the administration,

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Speaker 1: the people that work for FEMA, which is full of

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Speaker 1: federal civil servants whose literal job in life is to

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: help people in a situation like this. They're not driven

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Speaker 1: by politics. They're not motivated or mobilized because of the

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: voting patterns of those who live on Puerto Rico or

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Speaker 1: their ethnic or ideological or any other kind of background.

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Speaker 1: They're just there to help people. But Puerto Rico has

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01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: been hit hard. It's a difficult circumstance. What you are

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:03,480
Speaker 1: seeing both through serious news outlets and through the commentary

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01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: channels that just serve as mockery propaganda outlets for the left.

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01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: What you're seeing is the construct as it goes along,

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01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: the real time creation of the perception of Puerto Rico,

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01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: Hurricane Maria, as quote Trump's Katrina. That's what all this

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01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: was over the weekend. That's what all the mockery was.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have people that feel so safe with

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Speaker 1: enormous platforms from which to speak so safe saying completely

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Speaker 1: unfair in some cases just objectively untrue things about the

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Speaker 1: President his response to Puerto Rico. Uh, you know, they

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Speaker 1: can pick apart the optics as much as they want,

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Speaker 1: but the federal response to each one of these hurricanes

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Speaker 1: has been immediate. It has been robust, and all honest observers,

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Speaker 1: at least in the early day before the politicization sets in,

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01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: have been willing to give some credit the administration, not

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Speaker 1: for the administration being heroic, but for doing its job

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Speaker 1: when it comes to hurricanes. This administration has been doing

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Speaker 1: what it can. It's been doing its job with disaster relief,

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Speaker 1: hundred five oh one six six. What world do you

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Speaker 1: think the Republican Party should play when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore's campaign? Well, look, I don't run the party.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you for me, I don't support that.

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't vote for that. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: heck I would have to do, but I don't live

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Speaker 1: in that state. I mean, those are those claims are

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're ludicrous and they're divisive, And if that's

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Speaker 1: where we're headed, then well, first of all, we can't

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01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: remember I wrote that book and America United or divided.

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, two paths. I'm on the path to say

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01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: we can fix it. If the party can't be fixed, Jake,

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Speaker 1: then I'm not gonna be able to support the party period.

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Speaker 1: That's the end of it. I mean, I'm working. If

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01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: the party can't be x Jake, you know, so it's

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01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: gonna have enough of it. You know, I'm sitting around here,

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Speaker 1: John Kasi, I'm i I'm a reasonable, likable guy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna John Kasy, I gotta tell you

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01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: he has a great he has lifetime job security. That's

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: the good news as the republican uh quote, Republican politician

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01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: who can always be counted on to go on air

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01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: and tell the Democrat resistance whatever they want to hear,

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01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: on whatever channel they want to hear it. So I'm

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01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: glad that case. You know, I'm worried about my children

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 1: and you know the things and you know the stuff.

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, I'm trying to fix stuff, you

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01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Jake. I mean, you know, I

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01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: wrote that book. So what's the book? I mean, is

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: he really is he really telling us about how he's

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01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: all about, you know, the all about the good of

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: the country over party but he's like, yeah, I wrote

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01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I wrote that book. You're all, oh, it's a book

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: with the words, you know, and that was written by

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Speaker 1: by me, John Kasick. You're not here in Ohio. You

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01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: know I'm doing the stuff. You know. He is, he is,

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01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: he is an original. I'll give him that. I remember

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Speaker 1: those sitting down with him after a slew of politicians,

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01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: you know, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio, and I was

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01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: doing this straight up political interview, you know, not trying

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01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to get into it with them, not playing got you

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01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: just what do you think about this? What do you

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01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: think about this? That's kind of how I approached guests

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01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: on this show too. I don't bring them on the

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: show to yell over them or browbeat dum or force

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01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: them to agree with me or humiliate them. Ory. You know,

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01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: there's there's another pseudo intellectual combat arenas out there where

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01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: people will I mean, look at all the different panels.

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01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: I'll have an MSNBC and c ann for example, where

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: it's just Strongman, right, it's just Clay. They call it

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Speaker 1: Clay pigeon shooting within the business, just so you know.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, back to kask As, I was saying, he

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01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: has all of the charm and warmth of a nineteenth

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01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: century Siberian prison guard. I mean, he really does. And look,

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Speaker 1: I know that we've got a robust contingent of uh

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01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: Team buck folks in the great state of Ohio. I

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Speaker 1: love Ohio, I leve Ohioans. I'm wondering how many of

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Speaker 1: you agree with me on Kasik that he's just a pain.

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Speaker 1: I know that the state of Ohio has been doing

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Speaker 1: really well. I would think that that has much more

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Speaker 1: to do with the people of the state and the

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Speaker 1: businesses there and than it is anything specifically attributable to

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Speaker 1: John Kasik. But I just think it's funny. Here's this

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Speaker 1: guy who his his whole reason for being on TV.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a big part of the industry now,

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01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: the anti Trump Republican This is now something that you

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01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: can uh count on. This is something that you can

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01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: be expected, uh to see on TV, or that that

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Speaker 1: can be expected to be seen on TV, which is

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01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: they bring on Republicans who they're just their job is

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Speaker 1: to just bash Trump. How many Democrats during the Obama years,

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Speaker 1: how many Democrats would get on TV it major networks

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Speaker 1: to just trash President Obama? You know, I think this

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Speaker 1: is part of a of a broader issue. I think

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Speaker 1: this is something that's more than just Obak. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about cable news and you're in the media, and no, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that what you see here is that Democrats,

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Speaker 1: as part of their political culture, have an understanding that

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01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: power is what matters most, and whatever they have to

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01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: do and say and pretend to get that power, they're

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01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: willing to do. And they know that co opting Republicans

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01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: who are disaffected and disgruntled is effective to that purpose.

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Speaker 1: And there are a whole panels of them all you

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01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: know that that go on TV and all they do

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01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: is trash Trump and all they do is trash the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. I just would note that it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: Where is the equivalent on the other side? Where were

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01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: the Where were panel after panel of quote democrat And

1486
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about either elected politicians or or pundits and

1487
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: writers and reporters with with big platforms that were that

1488
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: were on TV all the time at trash to trash Obama.

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01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: It just didn't exist because from a political culture standpoint,

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01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the left knows that it's about winning. Conservatives still like

1491
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: to be the hall monitor a lot of the time.

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01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 1: You know your your principles, You're not standing for all

1493
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: of your principles all the time. Principles are essential, they're

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01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: important in a way that I try to reiterate on

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01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: this show time and time again. But if your principles

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01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,799
Speaker 1: are just you yelling into an empty forest, it doesn't

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01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: really matter, right. You need to actually have some mechanism

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01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: for power. Democrats know that, and that's why they love

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01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: the casic maneuver. Let's bring a Republican onto just trash

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01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: to just trash Trump. All right, we'll be right back

1501
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: to stay with me, hey, Team buck Sexton, back with

1502
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 1: you here in the Freedom Hunt. Given recent events, ESPN

1503
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: is making a wise decision here. I think this from

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01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: earlier today, that ESPN is going to air the national

1505
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: anthem that will proceed tonight's game, which should be coming

1506
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: on in just a matter of moments here, which will

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01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: proceed uh tonight's game between the Washington Redskins and the

1508
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, as well as a moment of silence

1509
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: that will take place in Arrowhead Stadium. Now, there had

1510
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: been a few other times when ESPN had decided to

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01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: air the anthem, to play the national anthem on TV

1512
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: one had been on Monday Night Football, which fell on

1513
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the sixteenth anniversary of September eleventh attack, and then last

1514
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: week after the recent series of protests and back and

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01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: forth between players and with Trump's commentary. So you had

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01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys against the Arizona Cardinals, with the Cowboys

1517
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: owner Jerry Jones taking a knee alongside players and coaches.

1518
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: You know about all this. I I know you know

1519
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: about this, and we've been talking about it here on

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01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 1: the show. But ESPN making this decision to air a

1521
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: moment of silence and the anthem tonight is of course

1522
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 1: the right decision, and we should give some credit where

1523
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: it is due in the sense that ESPN is making

1524
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: the right move here. And so I don't want to

1525
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: just reflexively criticize everything that ESPN does just because we

1526
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: know that many of their decisions are influenced, if not dictated,

1527
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: by left wing political concerns. I also think, however, that

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01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: this should be a clarifying moment for everyone about not

1529
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: really for you and me, but for those who were

1530
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: confused about why there was so much outrage and so

1531
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: much backlash against the protesters during the protests. Playing up

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01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: players who protested during the anthem. And that's because there

1533
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: is no question that the moment of silence tonight and

1534
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 1: the national anthem that will come right after it are

1535
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: meant to show respect to those and the families of

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01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: those who lost their lives in this horrific attack in

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01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. And also, I think this should add a

1538
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: degree of clarity going forward whenever someone has confusion about

1539
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: why is it that there is so much UH outrage

1540
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: when players decided to take a knee during the anthem,

1541
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: Because the anthem is not about Trump. It's not about

1542
01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: police officers good or bad. It's not about Russian or

1543
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: whatever someone feels like making it about that day. The

1544
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: anthem is about respect for this country, those who have

1545
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: fought and died so that we may have this country.

1546
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: And that doesn't change based on who the president is.

1547
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't change based on the political circumstances of the moment.

1548
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: It does not change because players, or owners, or the

1549
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: media or all of the above believe very strongly that

1550
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: we are an imperfect country and that we have to

1551
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 1: come to grips with some UH legacy and continuation of

1552
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: systematic racism and oppression of minorities. That's not what the

1553
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: anthem is about. So when you protest the anthem, you

1554
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: are not able to insert whatever it is that you

1555
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 1: want in that moment. You cannot leverage the attention and

1556
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 1: the attention and respect given the anthem for personal political

1557
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: purposes without offending those who understand what the anthem is

1558
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: really about. ESPN is making the right decision here. I

1559
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: would like to think that all of the players who

1560
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: within moments will be faced with the choice to either

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01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: show respect or not. I believe they all will. I

1562
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: don't know, but I believe that they will understand, and

1563
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: they certainly should understand that given what this country has

1564
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: been through, given the psychological damage that all of us

1565
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,520
Speaker 1: as Americans, that as human beings feel in the aftermath

1566
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: of such a horrific mass shooting, this is a time

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01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: for unity. This is a time for prayer. This is

1568
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: a time to come together. And I saw some some

1569
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: sentiments expressed it on social media that I know, under

1570
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: other circumstances could be seen as as trite or as quaint.

1571
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 1: But given what has happened in the last twenty four hours,

1572
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: we need some sense of shared kindness. We need some

1573
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: reminders of the obligations we have to be, to be

1574
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: good to one another, to be helpful to one another.

1575
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, I had to earlier today make my way

1576
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: to the funeral of a very dear friend of mine

1577
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: and his his father passed away, and my friend's father

1578
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 1: died unexpectedly. He's one of my oldest friends really in

1579
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: the whole world. He might actually be my oldest friend

1580
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: outside of my immediate family. And his mom and dad

1581
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: were always unfailingly kind to me, and I remember them

1582
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 1: both very Finally, a mother is still thankfully with us

1583
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,959
Speaker 1: and doing very well, but the father passed away suddenly.

1584
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Um I remember Mr B. I'll call him always saying

1585
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: to his son, who's still a dear friend of mine

1586
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: to this day, that you know, Buck Bucks, a gentleman Bucks,

1587
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: a good man, Bucks, a gentleman and a little thing.

1588
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: But when I was ten, twelve, fourteen years old, I

1589
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: really appreciated that I really took pride, and that Mr

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01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: B would tell people, tell his son that I was

1591
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: such a gentleman and I and it really was encouraging

1592
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: and it was kind. And as I had to try

1593
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: to give some small measure of support and comfort to

1594
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: my friend whose father died of natural causes, but suddenly

1595
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: it's very sad. Just also hammered home for me today

1596
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 1: really hit home that, Uh, however much you've hugged your

1597
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: family members this week, ever much you told your wife,

1598
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: your husband, your kids, or whomever, how much you love them,

1599
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: it's never too much. I think that's a reminder that

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: we can all have today, wherever your family is, wherever

1601
01:39:56,120 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: they are, ah, take the opportunity to reach out and

1602
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 1: just just let them know there's there's never going to

1603
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: be a moment in your life where you think yourself,

1604
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't expressed my um my love and

1605
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: shown that moment of kindness or just reached out. You know, hey, mom,

1606
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: you know hey son, Hey, whatever the case may be. Hey,

1607
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, second cousin, Phil, whoever it is, you know,

1608
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 1: your your neighbor down the street, whoever you care about,

1609
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 1: matters to you. I think if we can take something

1610
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: out of the terror that has occurred in the last

1611
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, it's that are a minder to all

1612
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: of us that those who are precious to us um

1613
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: should be told that, and that our lives are finite,

1614
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: and that all we really leave is a legacy of

1615
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: how we treated each other. While we had the choice

1616
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: about how to how to act, how to be, how

1617
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: to love um. And that's just something that you know.

1618
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: As I process today and had to had to make

1619
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: my way to a friend's father's funeral and saw the

1620
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: pain in that family. I can't imagine right now what

1621
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: it is like for those who lost loved ones in

1622
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and are still, in many cases waiting anxiously

1623
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: to find out how their loved ones, if they are

1624
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: in the hospital, if they are fighting, fighting for their

1625
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: lives or trying to recover from from wounds. I can't

1626
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: imagine what that feels like. So I know it's it's

1627
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: painful to think about for all of us. It's painful,

1628
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: and this is a loss for all of us as

1629
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Americans and as human beings. But I would take from

1630
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: it that call your called your loved ones, reach out

1631
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: to them today and let them know, just let them know,

1632
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: let them know you love them, you know, and if

1633
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: you see them, if you're lucky enough, give them a hug.

1634
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: And just be kind to somebody today, Show someone, even

1635
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: a stranger, doesn't matter, anyone random act of kindness. All right,

1636
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right, Welcome back, Team. I wanted

1637
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: to come into the show this week. I wanted to

1638
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: come into the Freedom Hunt and talk to you about

1639
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: my weekend in Vegas. And for very obvious reasons, that

1640
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like something that we can discuss right now.

1641
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: And even though I left Vegas before this terrible situation unfolded,

1642
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: I UM, I just know that we have our minds

1643
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: somewhere else right now, and everything that happened before this

1644
01:42:54,920 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: is irrelevant. I have to say that it fear wills

1645
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: eerie having just been within uh eyesight of the Mandalay

1646
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: Bay Resort. Every day that I would go out and

1647
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: do my radio show, I would drive out to the

1648
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: outskirts or head out to the outskirts of Las Vegas,

1649
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: and then I would I would come back, and sure enough,

1650
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: the one landmark that I knew I was going in

1651
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: the right direction I was was the Mandalay Bay. It's

1652
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: really one of the most visible, if not the most visible,

1653
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: actual physical manifestations of the Las Vegas Strip. So maybe

1654
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 1: I will tell you a bit about um the weekend

1655
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: and some of the discussions, and some of it wasn't

1656
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: really the weekend. It was the few days last week

1657
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: that I was in Las Vegas that preceded this event.

1658
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how we'd have a discussion here

1659
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: on the show about how Vegas is a for for

1660
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: all of the criticisms that people have of it as

1661
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: as a place, and it's a monument to capitalism and

1662
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: too human endeavor, and it's it is an incredible place,

1663
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: and I am just so sad that this is now,

1664
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: for who knows how many days, weeks or months, going

1665
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 1: to be the first thing that comes to mind for

1666
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people when they think of Las Vegas,

1667
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:29,520
Speaker 1: and certainly for those who were affected by this terrible tragedy,

1668
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: by this evil mass murder on the strip, this will

1669
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: be something that stays with them for the rest of

1670
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: their lives. So I, with your permission, UM, I would

1671
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: just say that we would take a take a pause

1672
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 1: here on everything that I could talk to you about

1673
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: from my time, because there was a conference that I

1674
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: met with all these different different guests and it was

1675
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 1: interviewing people. There's some really fascinating discussions. It's just it's

1676
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: not not the time to have because because it happened

1677
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: in Vegas, because it happened right before this terrible event,

1678
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: I will hold off and maybe we'll have some future

1679
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 1: It's some of the interviews I did were taped, so

1680
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: I might get the chance to share snippets of them

1681
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: with you later on. But for right now, I just

1682
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing I can think of about Vegas that isn't

1683
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: that isn't this event, And I'm sure you all feel

1684
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: exactly the same way. Uh. With that, I would also

1685
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: ask if I if you don't mind, if I could

1686
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: just close the show on a on a happier note.

1687
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: I know I've talked to you about We've talked a

1688
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 1: lot about the events in Las Vegas. I've been speaking

1689
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: to you about also my my friend and the loss

1690
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 1: of his father and the funeral. So it has been

1691
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: a somber show, to be sure, and I like to

1692
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: and we've had a few moments of levity just because

1693
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: we we have to write, I can aunt continue on

1694
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: for three hours and just take us all into the

1695
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: most dark and depressing places imaginable, which uh, an incident

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Speaker 1: like what's happened in Las Vegas certainly does. So I

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01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: am asking for your okay, I'm asking for your permission

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: in a sense to now just take you to New

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01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: York City of early yesterday, before all of us happened,

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: so I can share with you a happier moment, which

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01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: is just that my older brother and his girlfriend adopted

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01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: a dog and I went over to see it. His

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01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: name is Percy, and he is an adorable little fellow.

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01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:55,759
Speaker 1: He is a golden Pomeranian with a pretty short haircut.

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01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,719
Speaker 1: So you think of Pomeranians as being poofy, and um,

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01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 1: you see this guy and you're like, wow, he's he

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01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: almost looks like a little fox. He was found years

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01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: ago in a dumpster, from what I am told, in

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01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 1: an alley in the Austin, Texas area. He was found

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01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: by a shelter worker, somebody who worked in a dog shelter,

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01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: and they went about immediately finding a forever home for

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01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: this adorable little fellow. And they found a home for

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01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: him for a while, and then the one that initially

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01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: also his his coat was so long that it was

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01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,480
Speaker 1: dragging in the it was dragging in the mud and puddles,

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01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: and he was filthy and I'm sure he had worms,

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01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 1: which is pretty standard for abandoned dogs. Yeah, he was

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01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: in a dumpster scrounging for food, this little guy. And

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01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: they got him to a home and then there was

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01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: a move happening within the home, and they needed to

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01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: find another forever home for Percy. And now he has

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: been adopted by my brother and his and his girlfriend

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01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: and they live close by in New York City, so

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01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,839
Speaker 1: they will be well. I will be a frequent visitor

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01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: to go see a little Percy. And that was one

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: part of the of the weekend that I wanted to

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01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: share with you. It was just a night. It was nice,

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01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: and you know, in a daylight today, it's important to

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01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: allow yourself to remember that which is good and happy

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01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: and and brings you enjoy. Otherwise you get so down

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01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: in all this stuff. So a little Percy is is

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01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: doing great, and uh, I haven't. And now the pressure,

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, on me to move forward and

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01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: to adopt a dog who has been up just a

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01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: little bit. I am working on it. I never heard

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01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 1: back from the shelter here in New York City that

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01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I had hoped to foster, so I'm going to reach

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01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: out to them again this week, and I'm also going

1739
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: to reach out to a couple of other shelters where

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01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: I can at least foster dog. So fostering is when

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01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: you take them for a period of time and then

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01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: they find the forever home, but you're there to make

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01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: sure the dog is has companionship and it's well fed

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01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 1: and groomed and is getting plenty of walks. And it's

1745
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: a great bridge between having your own dog and or

1746
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 1: thinking about getting a dog and having your own dog.

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01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends here in New York

1748
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: we have just adopted in the last few months as well,

1749
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: and they certainly have their they certainly have their hands full.

1750
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: But I think that puppies for a lot of us,

1751
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm guessing, I would think that of those

1752
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: of you listening to this show like to completely love

1753
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: dogs and view them as a joy, one of the

1754
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: great joys in life, you know, one of the things

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01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: that you can always bring a smile to your face.

1756
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: And the one percent are probably just cat people who

1757
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: also like dogs, but not quite as not quite as

1758
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about them as the other But dogs, for me

1759
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: are are what is a very necessary escape and provide

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01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 1: a really worthwhile sense of you know, there's still there

1761
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: are still goodness, there's still joy, There's still and if

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01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: for a lot of your saying you need to have

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01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: a kid, and you know that will be an even

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01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: much bigger version. And I know and and I've got

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01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 1: that on the mind too. Um, but on on in

1766
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: times like these, finding your own little psychological respite from

1767
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 1: what seems just so overwhelmingly vile and and evil and wrong. Um.

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01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: If it's dogs, if it's cooking, if it's just spending

1769
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: time with with friends, with family, watching a show that

1770
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: inspires you, that makes you feel better, you gotta allow

1771
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: yourself to do that. I am in this business now

1772
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: for years. I've gone from the CIA to media and

1773
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: media in particular covering terrorism and national security issues. So

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01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: I speak. I speak of what I know when I

1775
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: tell you that even in the midst of a crisis,

1776
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: or even the midst of terrible things happening around you,

1777
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. Give yourself a moment with your dog,

1778
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: with your cat, with your family, with your favorite show,

1779
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 1: with whatever it is that you need to do. Um,

1780
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 1: everyone listening to the show, you know, take care of yourself,

1781
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: Take care of your loved ones today and hold them

1782
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: a little a little closer. And with that until tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: shield tie