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Speaker 1: I hope you are having a safe and enjoyable holiday season. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern

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Speaker 1: California Toyota Dealers.

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Speaker 2: I'm JB.

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Speaker 1: Long sitting with Marco Farr and Maurice Jones Drew. Great

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Speaker 1: to see you all.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Closing out the calendar year with a trip to New

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Speaker 1: York for Week seventeen. At first things First, good Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Everybody to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What'd you do? Nothing? Nothing? Was awesome? Sat there,

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Speaker 2: Wait what you said?

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Speaker 1: No that I see you on NFL network all weekend long,

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Speaker 1: like three days in a row.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was. It was unbelievable. And then I

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Speaker 2: went home and nothing got it. It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, watch football. Enjoyed myself, enjoyed. My family. Made

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Speaker 3: the biggest mistake of my parenting life. I gave my

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Speaker 3: eight year old an iPad. We haven't found her since

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Speaker 3: that's the best thing. You mean, horrible. I can't find her.

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Speaker 3: She won't come out of her room.

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Speaker 2: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: What if she's studying the All twenty two tape.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she studied, No time, she's watching YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Probably right now.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, I did go snowboarding a couple

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Speaker 4: days ago. We went to Tahoe for Christmas after and

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Speaker 4: I was going down the hill with my kids. Was awesome,

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Speaker 4: and I tried to be cool dad and hit something,

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Speaker 4: oh boy, and face planted and the whole hill, the

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Speaker 4: whole mountain saw me because there's only one slope that

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Speaker 4: was open.

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Speaker 2: And then people were coming up the rearly, Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Was that?

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, besides the wind being knocked out

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Speaker 4: of me, and you know, my kids laughing at me

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Speaker 4: as they were coming by on the snowboard, life was okay.

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Speaker 3: At DeMarco far One, if there's video of him falling.

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Speaker 3: I got to see this absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I just noticed your football on TV sucks. Did you

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Speaker 1: see that We've been sitting together on Are those new?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: These are old? But look this sums up how I

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Speaker 3: feel about New York. You can't see it, my shoes

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Speaker 3: covering it, but it says nothing else matters, Like nothing

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Speaker 3: else matters this week but the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Any takeaway from football on TV? What you watch while

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Speaker 1: the Rams enjoyed any victory?

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Speaker 3: Good talk to your buddies. Why aren't we talking more

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Speaker 3: about Matthew Stafford and MVP. Why are we talking about

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Speaker 3: brock perty and Lamar Jackson. It's deserved, but why aren't

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Speaker 3: we talking about Matthew Stafford. As far as MVP, I.

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Speaker 4: Think the record is kind of what hinders a lot

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Speaker 4: of the MVP talk. They look at the guys that

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Speaker 4: have the better records and things like that, even though

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is probably playing the best out of anyone

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Speaker 4: right now. But if you look at like Baltimore, you

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Speaker 4: look at what the Niners are doing, you look at Miami,

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Speaker 4: they have top records, they put up you know, big points,

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Speaker 4: they've been doing it for a long time.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of where the MVP goes. I disagree with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I still think the kid up in the runner

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Speaker 4: up in San France should get it because he's been

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Speaker 4: balling the whole time.

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Speaker 3: But you know, crazy fifteen and two fifteen touchdowns, two

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Speaker 3: picks since the bye, and look that all the conversation

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Speaker 3: is about teams with better records. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: just looking at what's been going on for the last

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Speaker 3: month and a half, I mean, who's playing better than

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford goes on it.

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Speaker 2: I wish I had a vote, you know where my

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I tell you this, I truly believe if

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Speaker 4: the Rams, as they keep going on, they find a

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Speaker 4: way to get into the dance, he'll definitely be in

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Speaker 4: consideration from coming back what was.

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Speaker 2: It three and six?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to making that run. Definitely a give him up.

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Speaker 4: That's the biggest takeaway. I mean, in the NFC, anybody

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Speaker 4: you draw, the Rams are gonna be a tough out.

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Speaker 4: And at the other end of this, if you do

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Speaker 4: make the Super Bowl, it will probably be Baltimore on

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Speaker 4: the other side and the Rams with nose the nose

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Speaker 4: with them. So yeah, that's my big takeaway from watching

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Speaker 4: football this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Ah while healing that thumb that was this close to

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Speaker 1: being a season ending injury and that loss in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: So I think the mini by. You always hate when

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football is so deep in your schedule, but

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Speaker 1: when it's a home game and you can win it

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Speaker 1: and you catch this extra rest, I mean, what could

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Speaker 1: that mean for Matthew Stafford's thumb, for Cooper Cup, for

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Speaker 1: Pooka and Akua Kien Williams, Aaron Donald, Rob Havenstein, Like

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Speaker 1: they're really set up well from a health standpoint to

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Speaker 1: finish as well as they have all year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, little booboos, I mean things. I mean, guys play

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Speaker 3: through a lot of stuff. I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: funny you see these guys in pads and you know this.

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Speaker 3: They walk out and they look like gladiators. But when

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Speaker 3: you see them take their pads off and you see

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Speaker 3: what's actually ailing them and what they're playing through, you

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Speaker 3: have a lot more respect for them. So anytime you

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Speaker 3: get that break this late in the season, anytime you

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Speaker 3: get a break period in football is great. But when

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Speaker 3: you get one late in the year, this MANI buy,

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Speaker 3: it's awesome. You get a chance to reset your brain

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Speaker 3: and go at it. So I hope that this week

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Speaker 3: will be the best week for the Rams to play

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Speaker 3: their best game.

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Speaker 4: You know, I forget that all the tape and stuff

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Speaker 4: the pads and all the different padding. It's so funny

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Speaker 4: you bring that up to me. I think that this season,

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Speaker 4: normally it used to be at this like two halves,

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Speaker 4: right or four quarters. Well, if you look at it

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Speaker 4: now with the bye week and then you have this

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Speaker 4: mini buy you're actually breaking up into three right, Like

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Speaker 4: this is the last third for the Rams. Even though

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Speaker 4: it was late, you still have an opportunity to you say,

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Speaker 4: get it, hil Up, work on some different concepts self

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Speaker 4: scout right.

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Speaker 2: I know Sean says see you Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: So if you don't think that Sean McVay was in

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Speaker 4: here every day throughout the weekend learning and figuring out

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Speaker 4: his team and taking that time off to not really

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Speaker 4: focus on the giants will focus on themselves and forgot

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Speaker 4: where they can be better, right, and then then take

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Speaker 4: that and then put that into this implement that into

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Speaker 4: this game plan going to New York.

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Speaker 2: You're crazy, so I think again.

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Speaker 4: It It allows the players to refresh, It allows the

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Speaker 4: coaches to refocus and retool in on what they need

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Speaker 4: to do to be better.

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Speaker 3: See when he says see you Tuesday, I mean I'm

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Speaker 3: conditioned to jumps. He like, see you Wednesday. Oh no,

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Speaker 3: see you to right. You know that's the bone you're

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Speaker 3: waiting for, right, That's what I'm talking about. Sorry, Marius, anyway,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, All right, So.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to the clinching scenarios, and there

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Speaker 1: are some for this week. We have some New Year's

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Speaker 1: resolutions for you as we close out the calendar year

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and we'll talk about the New York

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Speaker 1: Giants who are making another change at quarterback. But before

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Speaker 1: we do all that, should we get to some news

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Speaker 1: and notes from around the facility, including just today, to

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Speaker 1: go with his NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor,

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Speaker 1: how about a fourth PEPSI Rookie of the Week honor

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Speaker 1: for Puka Nakua. DeMarco farr is doing something with his

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Speaker 3: Plugging my ears. Why because I don't want to hear

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Speaker 3: another alcohlade for Puka Nakua.

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Speaker 1: Because because he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: I don't want his head to get too big. It's

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Speaker 2: not getting big. That's one thing about it. I will

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 4: The one thing about him, he has been the same

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Speaker 2: The smiling face. I mean, put it this way. I

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Speaker 2: know I've seen this before with Kurt Warner. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: just think like.

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Speaker 4: He's playing through an injury too that we don't talk

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Speaker 4: about as much that we saw put out Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 4: He's playing through some issues and he's still out there

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Speaker 4: performing for his team now he's he performing.

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Speaker 2: Catching the ball.

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Speaker 4: He's laid some of the vicious, the most vicious blocks

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Speaker 4: on DBS. I'm not worried about him getting too big,

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Speaker 4: and if he does, you should because you're you're doing

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Speaker 4: the dirty work to get there.

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Speaker 3: I think he might be the third or fourth most

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Speaker 3: penalized guy on this football team. But he's tremendous and

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Speaker 3: all his penalties are acts of what do you call

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Speaker 3: that aggression? Aggression he's going after you and this is

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Speaker 3: without the ball. This is the stuff you love from

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Speaker 3: Pookin Deakura.

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Speaker 1: All right, So from a record setting RAMS receiver of

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Speaker 1: the present to one in the past, Tory Holt a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame finalist. Now for the fifth time, DeMarco

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Speaker 1: make the case for this twenty twenty four class to be.

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Speaker 3: Both Tory Holt teammates. So we can both make this case.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you saw the end. I saw the beginning

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Speaker 3: of Tory Holt and the middle of it and tremendous. Look,

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna put Isaac Bruce in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: you have to put Tory Holt. Really, I mean, and

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Speaker 3: I hope I hate that he gets lumped into the

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Speaker 3: Greatest Show on turf as if it was this system.

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Speaker 3: It was these guys that made the system. It made

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Speaker 3: it so great. And it wasn't just Kurt Warner throwing

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Speaker 3: him the football. Mark Bulger and then X Y and

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Speaker 3: and the only thing that was more consistent was Tory

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Speaker 3: Holt and playing every Sunday and hitting the box. Look

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Speaker 3: all the guys that have played football in the National

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Speaker 3: Football at wide receiver, no one's had the first ten

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Speaker 3: years like Tory Holt, no one and no one will

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Speaker 3: have a first ten years like Tory Holt had. So

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Speaker 3: it's well beyond time that he is put in his

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Speaker 3: rightful spot, which is immortalized in canon with a gold

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Speaker 3: jacket on. I cannot wait to go in or go

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Speaker 3: see him go into the Hall of Fame. It's got

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Speaker 3: to be this year. Got to be this year.

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Speaker 4: It's funny, that's probably the most I've ever learned from

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Speaker 4: a player outside of my position.

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Speaker 2: Right, I played Fred Taylor's another guy who's going to

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Speaker 2: the whole feam. I got a chance to learn from.

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Speaker 4: Tory Hill comes to Jacksonville, though, and immediately like starts

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Speaker 4: to challenge people, right and told like would tell us

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Speaker 4: stories about them winning Super Bowls and what it took

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Speaker 4: and how things are going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Mind he was playing on a bad.

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Speaker 4: Leg right, and the way he caught the ball, the

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Speaker 4: way he went about practice. He was an end of

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Speaker 4: being my neighbor at one point. Our families became really

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Speaker 4: close during our time in Jacksonville. But the man he

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Speaker 4: was was more important than me than the guy that

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Speaker 4: the player like.

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Speaker 2: He really raised a lot of young dudes in our

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Speaker 4: We were a young team, like I'm talking about. I

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Speaker 1: Good luck to your friend Fred too.

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Speaker 3: They're going to Seattle, right, not the easiest place in

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks in a row. Now it looked

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Speaker 1: their ticket in week seventeen, it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: Of those crazy physical games and they came here and

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Speaker 4: Right to me, I just see it the same way.

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Speaker 4: And what I saw from that Ravens game was the

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Speaker 2: That's like put guys out. I mean, they played a.

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Speaker 4: they're you know, guys are running like that. To me

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Speaker 1: Now, the transitive property doesn't work in football, right. You

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Speaker 1: can't say, oh, Rams went to Baltimore took them to overtime, right,

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Speaker 2: Again, the way he said I heard.

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Speaker 3: This coming out of Baltimore he said, not many teams

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you're going to play that

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Speaker 2: I think they can. They did it way back in September.

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Speaker 3: They almost had him, They had him on the ropes

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Speaker 2: Was that the turnover there went through, it went there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if that doesn't happened, that game is

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Speaker 3: but for how long? And can you do it again?

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Speaker 3: your scenario, but I'd like it if you didn't have

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Speaker 1: That's for next week. You're right, plenty of time for

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Speaker 1: that on the next edition. It's first a trip to

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Speaker 1: the Meadowlands on the final day of the calendar year?

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Speaker 1: Are you New Year's resolutions? People? Other of you make

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Speaker 2: I usually make it to June. How about you? January

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what happens summer Vaga.

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Speaker 2: Ice cream starts to look good. You know, somebody walks

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Speaker 2: start thinking, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You're shaking your head.

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Speaker 2: You're not that way the same, Yeah, it's trying to

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Speaker 1: What about for the Los Angeles Rams as they turned

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Speaker 4: The same thing, Stay the same, don't change. What is

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Speaker 4: the purpose of changing. You are who you are, and.

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Speaker 2: I love who the Los Angeles Rams are.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you're a team that right now, you don't

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Speaker 4: turn the ball over. You run the football offensively, your

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Speaker 2: Don't change. I don't want you to change. Can we

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: I don't want you to change. In twenty twenty four, Like,

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Speaker 2: Let's not leave.

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Speaker 4: Like you ever seen that movie tag where they play

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Speaker 4: Let's hold this together and playing just tweak it some

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Speaker 4: and like have you to be better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get new characters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're winning, okay, Like fair you can't get upset,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what the Rams are doing. They're

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Speaker 1: No, there's a perfect news resolution. How about if you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just win a few more takeaways on defense,

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Speaker 2: just you know, just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So you're being greedy. It was funny texting with you

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Speaker 2: Life is great.

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Speaker 1: Well, anytime that Marco can take his resolutions out to

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Speaker 1: six months, I can't keep mine.

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Speaker 2: But I can.

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Speaker 1: I can idea generate I I can create this for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't even want to disappoint myself. What

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, we're doing it awesome right now. Don't change well,

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Speaker 2: Do just change a little bit.

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Speaker 1: No, what do you got is that?

443
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Speaker 4: It?

444
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Speaker 1: Is it the kick game?

445
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Speaker 3: Well, okay, this one, that's one if you if you

446
00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,400
Speaker 3: have a good place kicker, no matter what the cost,

447
00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,760
Speaker 3: you might want to hang on to them.

448
00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,520
Speaker 2: How about that? Is that a resolution?

449
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,760
Speaker 1: I think they got a good place kicker. Did you

450
00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 1: watch football this week and there's a lot of bad kicking?

451
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,200
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. I've had no shot.

452
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this.

453
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Speaker 1: Maybe they changed long snapper this week, Maybe they don't,

454
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Speaker 1: but I'm with you. Like clutch kicking down the stretch

455
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Speaker 1: definitely on my life.

456
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

457
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Speaker 3: With the thirty three points you left on the board there,

458
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's something. And look, that could be

459
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Speaker 3: the difference between you and a playoff slot. So that

460
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 3: that's big. I would love to have Carson Wentz on

461
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Speaker 3: this football team beyond twenty twenty three?

462
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Speaker 2: Is that possible? Let's cost say the same. Is that

463
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,160
Speaker 2: possible though?

464
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Speaker 1: I think it's possible that game attack going.

465
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Speaker 2: That'e what I'm saying.

466
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Speaker 3: I think I think that's possible because I think he

467
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 3: is fantastic to have as a backup to Matthew Stafford.

468
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Speaker 2: To be that guy.

469
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Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was the the one catch no

470
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Speaker 3: catch on the sideline. I think it was hooker Robinson

471
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Speaker 3: where everybody was confused, and the first guy to point

472
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,800
Speaker 3: get on the ball, get on the ball was actually

473
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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz like get on the ball, and they snapped

474
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Speaker 3: the play and locked it in, like wow, he is

475
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 3: so invaluable. That's a franchise guy actually on your bench.

476
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Speaker 3: That is tremendous. And the other resolution is watching this

477
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Speaker 3: guy coach. Even the stats don't say it. I think

478
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Speaker 3: Raheem Morris is a head coaching waiting.

479
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Speaker 4: See that's what I'm saying. See that's that's the problem.

480
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Speaker 4: What that's that's where he's trying to change. You're trying

481
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Speaker 4: to change things. Why do we why do you have

482
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Speaker 4: to lose in coaches and player? Like stay the same,

483
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Speaker 4: said receive So I need to things right. We've seen

484
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Speaker 4: so many times like look at the Eagles, look at

485
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Right, they've lost so much. Yeah, all of

486
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Speaker 4: a sudden, you're back to the mean, Like you're you're

487
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Speaker 4: not as good as you were, right, stay the same,

488
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Speaker 4: don't listen.

489
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Speaker 1: Don't It's funny how different our minds work in terms

490
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Speaker 1: of MJD. Is like forget that assignment, No, thank you.

491
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Speaker 1: You're looking ahead to twenty four to twenty four yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of thinking more on how can we

493
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Speaker 1: make the most of the twenty three Rams in the

494
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Speaker 1: first part of the new year. Not saying anyone's wrong,

495
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Speaker 1: although it would be nice if you participated, I am,

496
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Speaker 1: but I was gonna say, as great as Matthew Stafford

497
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: has been eliminating, Drops could take this Rams offense, I

498
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Speaker 1: think to even a more elite level because he's actually

499
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Speaker 1: tops among quarterbacks and drop right, I think his targets

500
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Speaker 1: can help him out. And I think this mini buy

501
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: can help them get right. I think their best is

502
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 1: still out there for them. I think there's an even

503
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Speaker 1: higher level of scoring, especially if you tackle on the kicks.

504
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Speaker 1: And then on the defensive side of the football, how

505
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Speaker 1: about a defensive score. Nice, You've had two safeties, but

506
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Speaker 1: you've yet to get a defensive touchdown two regular season

507
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Speaker 1: games and hopefully a postseason still to come.

508
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking Can we change that? Is that possible? So?

509
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Speaker 4: I feel like I guess with my stay of the

510
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Speaker 4: same as like we're already going to the gym, we're

511
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Speaker 4: kind of doing everything right we're not like two into

512
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 4: it yet, but we're kind of just like doing our thing,

513
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Speaker 4: Like let's.

514
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Speaker 2: Just do our theme.

515
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Speaker 1: The markets just saying don't forget leg Day. Yeah, DeMarco's

516
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: the Mark was like yeah, like that.

517
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: Mark was like, I'm gonna go get a trainer. I'm

518
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Speaker 2: gonna pay him a thousand bucks. We're gonna go get

519
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: it getting. We're gonna go get.

520
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Speaker 4: All this this surgery done. We're gonna look good and

521
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 4: then I'm gonna be ice cream in June to mess

522
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 4: it all up and I'm gonna get the lap band

523
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Speaker 4: searge of a mess guy. I'm trying to think who's

524
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 4: been the drop guy this year? I mean I think

525
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Speaker 4: it's and how do you decide between dropping and completion?

526
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Speaker 1: That's for Pro Football Focus. It's it's been there, whether

527
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 1: it's a kop had a couple of touchdown opportunities.

528
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Speaker 4: Opportunities where they like hit him in the hands, like

529
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Speaker 4: I know Cup had a couple where it was right there. Uh.

530
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Speaker 2: Tyler Hagby's had it some early in the year.

531
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Speaker 3: We met on the Kyra and he throws it in

532
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Speaker 3: there and it touches his hands.

533
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Speaker 2: Is that incompleter? Is out a drop.

534
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Speaker 1: That's a drop throws of the game.

535
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Speaker 2: I thought. I mean, my goodness, the degree of difficulty.

536
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Speaker 1: Talking about we're talking about calves.

537
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Speaker 2: That's all about cats. We're talking about curls.

538
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Speaker 1: Let's go to New York to get to the Giants

539
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Speaker 1: get an honest reaction when they made the announcement this

540
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Speaker 1: week that they're going to Tyrod Taylor rather than Tommy

541
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Speaker 1: Cutlet's your feeling was what?

542
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Speaker 2: Dang?

543
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Speaker 3: Because why this week? Why this week? That gives him

544
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Speaker 3: the best chance to win? Yeah, I wanted to see

545
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Speaker 3: de Vito up close. I mean this was gonna be like,

546
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Speaker 3: you know, a hitch day Sakuon Barkley hitch that's easy

547
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Speaker 3: to defend. Tyrod Taylor adds a whole new element. Now

548
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Speaker 3: it's another mover, another mobile quarterback you have to worry about.

549
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Speaker 2: Now, it's not the end of the world. You can

550
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Speaker 2: make adjustments.

551
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Speaker 3: He is beatable, But dang, the degree of difficulty just

552
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Speaker 3: went up because of Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I mean that cracks me up.

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Speaker 4: Because like your New Year's resolutions, like you want to

555
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Speaker 4: get better, you want to do all this stuff, and

556
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Speaker 4: then you get a little better challenge to test who

557
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 4: you are and you're like, oh no, why see me?

558
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Speaker 2: I want that.

559
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Speaker 4: I thought that they were crazy to start de veto

560
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Speaker 4: over Tyron Taylor.

561
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Speaker 2: He got healthy.

562
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Speaker 4: Regardless of how good he was, Tyrond has always been

563
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 4: the better quarterback. Tyrod lost his job because he got hurt.

564
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Speaker 4: To me, this prepares the rams going forward, right for

565
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Speaker 4: mobile quarterbacks.

566
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Speaker 2: You know what he's gonna do. It's gonna allow you.

567
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Speaker 4: To work that package that you're gonna have to put

568
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Speaker 4: in U when you make the playoffs and you have

569
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Speaker 4: to play a mobile, mobile guy. If you have to

570
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Speaker 4: play let's say you have to play Jalen Hurts, or

571
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: you have to play teams that run. Yeah, yeah, like

572
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Speaker 4: it'll it'll put you in a position to work on

573
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Speaker 4: the things that you need to get better at. Defensively, Now,

574
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Speaker 4: I know Tyrod very well and he's going to take

575
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Speaker 4: shots down the field, but he's also conservative, right, and

576
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Speaker 4: so you have to understand that going into this, he

577
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Speaker 4: he can't do it all. He's he can't save them, right,

578
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Speaker 4: he can't walk through that door and all of a sudden,

579
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Speaker 4: they're just going to score a gazillion points. Like I know,

580
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: he did well against the Eagles, but the Eagles have

581
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Speaker 4: other issues that they're dealing with. To be their offensive

582
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: line is an issue, a big issue. They still who's

583
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Speaker 4: the playmaker on.

584
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Speaker 2: The outside the right?

585
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Speaker 4: So you have opportunities and I think the Rams have

586
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Speaker 4: gotten better and they kind of found something defensively with

587
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Speaker 4: Kobe Durant at corner this last week. I thought Kobe

588
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Speaker 4: Durant did an awesome job at corner, right, So now

589
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 4: less penalties, less penalties, yeah, less uh explosive.

590
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Speaker 1: Play Quent Lake at the Star though, a lot of

591
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Speaker 1: difference and coming back to health is made.

592
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Speaker 2: So you kind of you you're put in these underrated

593
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: group here by the way.

594
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Speaker 3: You're putting these guys in possessionary safeties under I think

595
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: you have four good safeties.

596
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're allowed.

597
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Speaker 4: But what it does is it allows you to work

598
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: this package one more time with a quarterback that's mobile.

599
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: So now guess what my edges will be tested? Right

600
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 4: when we blitz it. It allows us to really redefine what

601
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 4: we want to do. And then offensively, I mean, we

602
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Speaker 4: know what wing Martindale is gonna do. He's gonna blitz,

603
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Speaker 4: and to be honest, I could tell you exactly what

604
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Speaker 4: he's gonna do because he did the same thing in

605
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Speaker 4: Baltimore a couple of years ago. He's just gonna blitch

606
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Speaker 4: the edges. They're gonna try to collapse the pocket and

607
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: box the offense up. Right, They're gonna try to blitz

608
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Speaker 4: outside of number one, the number one receivers that are tight,

609
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Speaker 4: or outside of number two if he's if the ones

610
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Speaker 4: aren't tight. So you just know what you're going into.

611
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Speaker 4: You just have to have answers for it. To make

612
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: those answers. Against Baltimore a couple of years ago, there

613
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Speaker 4: weren't on any answers, right, that's when there was a

614
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 4: forty two six game or whatever might have been. You

615
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 4: have to expect that same kind of defense to come

616
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Speaker 4: in and have answers for it.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good defensive tackles on both sides, pretty good running

618
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Speaker 1: backs on both sides. Against Kiren, that's a phenomenal matchup.

619
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Speaker 1: And our EARLD friend Ashan Robinson is there next to

620
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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence on the interior of the Giants defensive line.

621
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Speaker 2: They got some big bucks.

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Speaker 1: They've not done a lot well defensively, including stop the run,

623
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Speaker 1: but they have been racking up takeaways. They had six

624
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Speaker 1: against Washington. Most of their takeaways have come since the

625
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: middle portion of their season, so that's an intriguing strength

626
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: against strength. Stafford taking care of it. New York secondary

627
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: taking it away.

628
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Speaker 3: Didn't wink Martindale say that Stafford's playing at an MVP level.

629
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Speaker 1: He said this morning that the MVP for him should

630
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Speaker 1: be Matthew Stafford Lamar Jackson. Okay, self serving, right, because

631
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Speaker 1: it's the quarterback he used to work with and the

632
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: one he's about to face this week. But he's also

633
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Speaker 1: complimentary of Stafford, saying that he's playing at a Hall

634
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Speaker 1: of Fame level, which is a sentiment that more and

635
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: more we've touched on it. But I think others are too.

636
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Speaker 3: For a few weeks, I mean outside of the throws.

637
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Speaker 3: And this is why I keep saying Matthew Stafford is

638
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Speaker 3: playing out of his mind. The way he's been able

639
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: to figure out defenses and know who's coming and know

640
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Speaker 3: where they're coming from get you in and out of

641
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: bad plays. Right, you want to get too good plays

642
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: and throwing the football. But that's what I mean. If

643
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Speaker 3: you're going to blitz like New York's is going to

644
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Speaker 3: try to do, they're going to have crowd noise or

645
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: at least whatever you're going to have, and they're going

646
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: to try to pressure him. If he sees it coming,

647
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: he's going to make you pay. He's going to absolutely

648
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Speaker 3: fullay you if he sees it coming. And for the

649
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: last three weeks he has, he's called it out. Yeah,

650
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Speaker 3: if they've picked it up, they've done a great job

651
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Speaker 3: protecting him, and he's done an even better job of

652
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Speaker 3: protecting himself.

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Speaker 2: Ahead I was going to say the reason.

654
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Speaker 4: I believe the reason is is because there's plays that

655
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Speaker 4: he doesn't have to be on. We talked about this

656
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: before he gets to be off. When I can just

657
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Speaker 4: turn around and hand the playoff a call and run it,

658
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Speaker 4: I don't. My mind doesn't have to. It takes a break, right.

659
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Speaker 4: As a quarterback, you got to think if I have

660
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Speaker 4: to check every run play right, or I'm checking the

661
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Speaker 4: safe So I have to think, look, look if it's

662
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: just a calling runner, He's like, all right.

663
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Here we go. Down's it.

664
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Speaker 4: I get that fifteen twenty seconds of break that I don't.

665
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: My mind's not working well. Now he gets that maybe

666
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: ten twelve times a game. So those other times where

667
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: he's on, he's more refreshing able to work that running

668
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: game is going when you're getting four and five yards

669
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 4: a pop to it that you have to put more

670
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 4: guys into the box and now you're doing run blitzes

671
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 4: and not.

672
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: Pass blitzes.

673
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: So to me, I think the running game has really

674
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: helped more than anything because it allows him to take

675
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: and not because they're they're getting massive yards on its,

676
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: because it allows the quarterback to.

677
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Just stop right, take a breath. It's like like we

678
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: talked about, like the New Year's Orde de lusion, like

679
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: you can't go hard for for three hundred and sixty fives.

680
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: You gonna have a break, you geat go on vacation.

681
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: You got to take her like six months, yes, you

682
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: see six months? Right?

683
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: So I think with him is he gets a break

684
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 4: in those games when he could call it and run

685
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 4: it and it allows him to play fast.

686
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Can I float something past you? There's a swagger that

687
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: he's playing with, and I think that Sean McVay is

688
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: calling the offense with. And I'll give you examples of each,

689
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: and you tell me if this is reflective of how

690
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: well they're going. Do you remember the end around toss

691
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: of de Marcus Robinson. Yeah, the flare with which the

692
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: ball handling looked. And then there was a fourth quarter

693
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: early play action of Pooka Nakula where he didn't just

694
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: fake the handoff, he faked the handoff and he ducked

695
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: behind his offensive line. He was hiding back there, stood

696
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: up and hit Pooka like that. To me, is a

697
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: quarterback who's in his element. He feels really comfortable with

698
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: what's coming off the sideline and with what he's seeing.

699
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: And then the other thing watching that game back, you

700
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: called it out in real time shotgun runs early in

701
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: the red zone deep in that game, Kiren's biggest run,

702
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: which was actually Davis Allen hold. The Rams tendency when

703
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: they're in shotgun is to throw the football. But I'm

704
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: sensing from Sean McVay that he knows where he's at

705
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: with this offense to such an extent that he's now

706
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: even busting his own tendencies to mess with opposing defenses.

707
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: I agree.

708
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 4: I think I think there's a swagger and of confidence

709
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 4: about everybody. When you see Matthew Stafford roll out to

710
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: his left and throw a strike to DeMarcus Robinson down

711
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: the field and he's playing this Shana, it's like.

712
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: All of a sudden everybody. Everybody's having this confidence.

713
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: And you were talking about the bigger d tackles that

714
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 4: they have, right, I've always that's.

715
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: Always been a problem with you.

716
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: You've always been a problem with the Rams, like anyone

717
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: that's huge. The Rams have had they have like struggled

718
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 4: throughout the years, but not this year. They don't struggle

719
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: with defensive linemen like we've seen in the past. And again,

720
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: it's a swagger, it's a confidence.

721
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: We know what gonna do.

722
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: It.

723
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: But think about it, like I have Swiggers a quarterback

724
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: because I know I can step up in the pocket, right,

725
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: like I know I know what's going on. I have

726
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: confidence in my in my offense because I know what

727
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: you're gonna do on these plays, because you have to

728
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: otherwise We're gonna do this, right. If if you don't

729
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: do what I want you to do, then I'm gonna

730
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: run this play and it's gonna hurt you. Right, And

731
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: so the game has slowed down for everybody. I feel

732
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: like Sean's in his bag. Staffords seeing the same way,

733
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: which means he's in his bag. The receivers are doing everything,

734
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: and it seems as the offense everyone's kind of.

735
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Understanding and seeing the same way, right, if that makes sense.

736
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: And then the running game when you I can get

737
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: a running back or Kyron or anyone on a corner,

738
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: which we saw a ton like they're running on corners

739
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: like you're gonna get six yards.

740
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Every time that happens. The corner doesn't want to tackle you,

741
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: and they're caving down sides and all these like. To me,

742
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: it's just like, wow, okay, this is gonna be a y.

743
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: If a ball breaks to the corner, that means it

744
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: was blocked perfectly. That's the that's the last guy you

745
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: want trying to tackle a running back.

746
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: The last thing I'll say about confidence is this the

747
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: second play of the game. Stafford throws a quick pass

748
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: to Tyler Higbee and instead of running out of bounds

749
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: like he normally does, turns it, turns it up the

750
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: sideline and runs through some people. Oh yeah, that is

751
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: the difference. And we talked about it being a playoff

752
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: game to playoff afmers. That's the difference. That's when you're confident, like, yeah,

753
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: oh yeah.

754
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: That's my favorite Higbee. It's the one that's wearing a

755
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: neck roll.

756
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: That's the guy I saw that Cowboy College under.

757
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the guy I like.

758
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: All right, So how do you keep that swager? What's

759
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the key to victory? To make sure that the Rams

760
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: don't lose that edge coming off a nine day layoff

761
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: going to the metal Lands.

762
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: Remember, you haven't done anything yet. I mean, and that's

763
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: what they do.

764
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: They start every half, every game off with zero zero

765
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: And look, this is all that matters is right now.

766
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: So if you keep that same focus going to New York,

767
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: it's not about playoff seating. It's not about winning the

768
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. It's about beating the New York Giants and

769
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: playing your best football game. If you take that attitude

770
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: to New York, and they've always done it in the

771
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: Sean MCVAA, they're great at no matter where the game is,

772
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: what time it starts, They've always had their they put

773
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: their best foot forward. Now, Baltimore ran over in Dallas

774
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: this year was terrible. I mean, they just it was

775
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: a bad five minutes of football. But for the most part,

776
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: they've never played down to their competition. Keep that same

777
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: attitude go to New York and you can get this victory.

778
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: I thought they played lights out in Baltimore. To be

779
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: honest with you, I thought I thought Baltimore, like seeing

780
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson in person and seeing Aaron Donald hold on

781
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: to him and swing him around him still finding way

782
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: to get the ball. I was like, oh, okay, like

783
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: you got a guy, right, Like you got a guy

784
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: that can.

785
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: Make some things happen. We'll give you that one.

786
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: But to me, whatever the word is this week, I'm

787
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: sure Sean uses words like if it's gonna be consecution

788
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: or physicality, whatever it is, make sure you sleep you

789
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: visualize that word the night before, because that's gonna be

790
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: the word that's gonna get you over this hump.

791
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

792
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: If it's facing adversity, whatever that word is, I don't know,

793
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: like whatever it is, but whatever that word is, make

794
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: sure you go out that with intent to use that

795
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: word and do what that that word is.

796
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Right.

797
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: And then and then you know, obviously this is when

798
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: you're playing a lesser team.

799
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: Just don't turn the ball over. Right. If you don't

800
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: turn the ball over.

801
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: You you're better than they are, so you should eventually

802
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: beat them, right, So it just don't give them an

803
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: extra opportunity.

804
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Mine was going to be how do you handle success?

805
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: And you guys, tell me if you think this is

806
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: a legitimate concern or not. I don't really think it's

807
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: a concern, but I do think it's a theme. It's

808
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: not a words kind of a phrase. But going to

809
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: New York got me thinking about twenty seventeen shaw mcvay's

810
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: first season. Remember they thumped the Cardinals in London and

811
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: they flew home at five and two to their buy

812
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: and you could tell things were different around here, right,

813
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: But the difference between having a good start and a

814
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: great season is what they did the week after the

815
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: buye Because after listening to everyone pat them on the back,

816
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: friends and family time off, just like over these holidays.

817
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Remember what they did. They went to New York and

818
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: beat the breaks off the New York Giants. Remember that game?

819
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and this is different, but it's a little

820
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: bit similar. You're back above five hundred for the first

821
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: time since going to one and oher in Seattle, Okay,

822
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: and you've had a little extra time around the holidays.

823
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: Everyone tell you in the NFC you're the team that

824
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: can get in and make some havoc, right, I don't know.

825
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a group that cares much

826
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: for their press clippings, but there are a lot of

827
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: young players on this roster who are hearing, oh, clinching

828
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: scenarios for the first time. Is that different at all?

829
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: I think it's actually the same because if you think

830
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: about it's the year before, right, was the Jeff Fisher

831
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: was at four and twelve or something and then we

832
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: had a little success.

833
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: That's what there's parallels. That's what I'm saying.

834
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: The last year, right, the season you had, and I

835
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: completely agree with you. I think it is important that

836
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: you go in there and you know, you handle your business.

837
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's fifty one seventeen or whatever

838
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: the score may be, but you it's how you win

839
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: this game. I think it's more important than winning going

840
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: along like going down the road, right, If you win

841
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: in convincing fashion, kind of like Thursday, you come up

842
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: with that same energy, in that mindset, you go right

843
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: down the field, make a statement.

844
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you say fifty one seventeen? Was that what

845
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: it was?

846
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: Fifty one seventeen?

847
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: Oh? I thought she meant this week might be fifty one.

848
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was talking about third down and forever

849
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: to Robert what he was talking.

850
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: About the bomb to Sammy Watkins that's been on the

851
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: Internet lately Jared golf play action pass throws it over

852
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Landing Collins.

853
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, kaboom, oh yeah.

854
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: And that preceded what Sean McVay talking trash to Landing Collins, like,

855
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: if you're gonna play three, you better be in three.

856
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: Oh you don't believe me? Bang right? Love it?

857
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, final thoughts? Anything else?

858
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: We're ready for Ready the meadow lands unbelievable. I'm glad

859
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: the Rams are making to be cold.

860
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: Not bad for the last day of the calendar year.

861
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: What happened in New York City?

862
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Man dry? At least you're in the booth.

863
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: What does it matter.

864
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: I'm actually asking for you because I don't want you

865
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: to be like soggy like you were like after Baltimore.

866
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: You actually bought rain boots good. No, yeah, that three

867
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: years cares? What it is with JB You know washing wear,

868
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: those socks, not these socks. I got game day socks. Okay,

869
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: just yeah, just ready to go.

870
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely good to see you both. You got a merry Christmas.

871
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Everyone listening and can't wait to spend twenty twenty four

872
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: with you. You as well. It's week seventeen. The Rams

873
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: have a clinching scenario as they go to face the

874
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: New York Giants. For Maurice Jones, Drew and Marco Farr,

875
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,719
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