Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 2: I am so happy to have a first timer on
Speaker 2: with us the court. I mean, the resume speaks for itself.
Speaker 3: It is the one of all the great Vicky James, Y.
Speaker 1: Love you Hertorio.
Speaker 4: I'm so good hot.
Speaker 5: I just got in from the gym. I'm flabbergasted because
Speaker 5: I think I'm sitting there in the chat going like, okay,
Speaker 5: so it's there, and you'll just wave.
Speaker 1: Like hi.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, she's just saying when you take it.
Speaker 2: Look when you got the pressure of the world on
Speaker 2: your shoulders like I do on a daily basis, and
Speaker 2: you're just so excited to have somebody come on, like
Speaker 2: Mickey James, I have some flabbergasted come on, Chad all right.
Speaker 1: Well himself, he's insane. I want to thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on last minute. I know Nick had something going
Speaker 1: on and stuff happened. There's stuff happened, and we don't
Speaker 1: have to say a word. It's all about you tonight, dear,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to focus on. But I
Speaker 1: thank you for coming in his place.
Speaker 4: No, of course, I've been wanting to go on.
Speaker 5: You know, we've been talking about me trying to get
Speaker 5: to come on anyway, and then I was I was like, well,
Speaker 5: let me just come on because I wanted to do
Speaker 5: come on her podcast anyway and come on her show anyway,
Speaker 5: and it just kind of worked out. Yeah, so here
Speaker 5: we are.
Speaker 1: Here we are. And I was explaining the chad. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was on gall TV, I had
Speaker 1: such a great time with you ladies. I wanted to
Speaker 1: open with that because it's yourself, it's so calval, it's
Speaker 1: Lisa Victoria. How did you guys? Now I know you
Speaker 1: guys were really tight in TNA back in the day.
Speaker 1: How did you come up with this concept? Because when
Speaker 1: when I was invited to come on, they was so cute.
Speaker 1: She was like the little brain leader and she was like,
Speaker 1: you know, she sent me the rules, the list of well.
Speaker 5: There's no rules per se.
Speaker 4: Well you know, it's.
Speaker 1: Necessarily rules, but it was like a list and things
Speaker 1: that we talk about and things that we discussed and
Speaker 1: this and that. So it's a different format. It's not
Speaker 1: really a wrestling show per se, and neither is this one.
Speaker 1: I like to call it a lifestyle podcast. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: talk about everything and we throw a little wrestling in there.
Speaker 1: Because how did you ladies come up with this concept
Speaker 1: for it and the name, by the way, which is great.
Speaker 5: Grown ass woman. Yes it came. So there are so
Speaker 5: many levels to that answer. You know, Val is a
Speaker 5: genius when it comes to different types of shows, like
Speaker 5: she would do the Pillow talk show at Impact at
Speaker 5: TNA at the time, and you know, I think that
Speaker 5: we had all I'd talked to her separately about doing
Speaker 5: some type of show, and then just through the pandemic
Speaker 5: and everything else, we had more downtime. And plus I
Speaker 5: had my knee injury, so I had a lot of
Speaker 5: downtime and I was going stir crazy and I needed
Speaker 5: something to do between the pandemic and my knee and
Speaker 5: all the things. And I'm really grateful because we started
Speaker 5: this as something to just do and and have fun with.
Speaker 5: And this is kind of before like the podcast explosion.
Speaker 5: And I don't really say, like, I love how you
Speaker 5: guys are doing this like live on YouTube, that's so cool.
Speaker 5: We haven't been We haven't figured out how to do that.
Speaker 5: So we pre record all of our episodes, which is
Speaker 5: good because I think it's super lighthearted and it's more
Speaker 5: of a.
Speaker 4: View for wrestling, if you will.
Speaker 5: And I kind of softly actually pitched an idea for
Speaker 5: a show.
Speaker 4: Like that first w WE network.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, that was my husband. Please don't don't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know frankly, thanks to them.
Speaker 1: Oh god, so sorry.
Speaker 4: Go ah, No, it's okay, don't apologize.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So we were able to kind of start doing
Speaker 5: it during the pandemic and at the time I was
Speaker 5: still with WWE and bows across country and Lisa's in California,
Speaker 5: and it was just a way to like kind of
Speaker 5: connect and connect our friends during the pandemic.
Speaker 4: And we always say it's not like a gotcha show.
Speaker 5: It's it's very like laid back and we want to
Speaker 5: have fun and just like let people see the other
Speaker 5: sides the other than the wrestling. We talked some wrestling, right,
Speaker 5: but it's mostly like real life stuff and friendships and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, because there's a common like sisterhood and
Speaker 5: brotherhood in the locker room that happens, and uh, I
Speaker 5: think we forget about that part and it's really important
Speaker 5: that we keep those friendships alive, you know, because they're
Speaker 5: important to us.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Let me just interject for one second.
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna put both of you over here in
Speaker 2: a second for your podcasting skills. He'll be quite That's
Speaker 2: what people I think like more even than just the
Speaker 2: one percent wrestling talk, because it'll come right, it'll get
Speaker 2: there eventually, just in the natural conversation. But the way
Speaker 2: you two guys have like a really great, like outgoing personality,
Speaker 2: the conversation can come follow in any direction and it
Speaker 2: keeps the listener interested. And that's what I think is
Speaker 2: interesting about what you guys do, Mickey, and then what
Speaker 2: Francine does with us on here.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, well thank you. I like you, Chad.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make up for my blunder.
Speaker 1: No, I agree one hundred percent. I know the dynamics
Speaker 1: between the three of you is just off the charts
Speaker 1: because you guys were friends, very good friends. It shows
Speaker 1: through podcasting now you can tell that it's just not like, oh,
Speaker 1: we just meet once a week to get on camera
Speaker 1: and talk like you guys are really fright, you know,
Speaker 1: off camera, I've known you, gosh, I feel like I've
Speaker 1: known you forever. I mean, I she came for a
Speaker 1: try out. How old were you when you came into ECW?
Speaker 5: What year was that two thousand, Like I was still
Speaker 5: a baby in the wrestling business. I feel like you've
Speaker 5: known me my whole wrestling career.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to and I'm not taking
Speaker 1: credit for anything that you've done. She was such a
Speaker 1: fresh faced kid that walked in and we talked about this.
Speaker 1: When I did your show, she took like twenty five
Speaker 1: DDT's in a row, landing on her head like twenty
Speaker 1: four times. I feel lupy as hell. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, are we are we hiring
Speaker 1: this girl? And I remember I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was Tommy or somebody. They were like, well, do we
Speaker 1: need another brunette? And I was like, does it really matter?
Speaker 1: Is here? Color really matter? Like? She's good. I could
Speaker 1: tell like right then and there, you were young, but
Speaker 1: you were good.
Speaker 4: I was not that great then I was.
Speaker 1: I was so green, but we were all green when
Speaker 1: we started. And the beauty of E c W was
Speaker 1: we molded people into superstars.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: You came on your own. You didn't need us, obviously,
Speaker 1: because here you are, but you came on your own,
Speaker 1: you know, in other ways. But I just feel like
Speaker 1: if we could have used you like it would have
Speaker 1: been so cool to have you as part of the
Speaker 1: roster back then.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. I would have loved you.
Speaker 5: I think I don't know that I was ready to
Speaker 5: be part of that roster.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I took.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I always say, oh, I took like
Speaker 4: two hundred dts from Mikey Whip. That was my tryout.
Speaker 5: I literally took and then I came back. I just
Speaker 5: I think the original do you know what the original
Speaker 5: idea was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Buella's little sister.
Speaker 4: I was going to be Bullah's little sister.
Speaker 5: Where I was going to be a I was wasn't
Speaker 5: eighteen yet, and there was going to be a countdown
Speaker 5: clock because that's what we did on when I was
Speaker 5: going to turn eighteen.
Speaker 4: Legal for the boys, fairly legal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one interruption. We just have to go to our
Speaker 1: super chat here, five dollars super Chat Lawn, Hello, Lawn high,
Speaker 1: fabulous free scene, magnificent Mickey and Chad hope you are well.
Speaker 1: He has a question for you, Mickey, which prior feuds
Speaker 1: would you compare your feud with Chelsea and Deanna? Which
Speaker 1: prior fud.
Speaker 3: To which prior would you compare?
Speaker 5: Okaye, my personal feuds or just feuds in general, because
Speaker 5: that's a pretty that's two different answers. You know, I
Speaker 5: can't say that there has actually been a feud for
Speaker 5: me quite like either of those feuds, you know, they've
Speaker 5: they've The one beautiful thing is I do feel that
Speaker 5: for the most part in my career, every feud has
Speaker 5: been unique in the sense of like the story that
Speaker 5: was told and the reasons why these two characters just
Speaker 5: didn't get along or why there was love lost, if
Speaker 5: you will. I think that the Chelsea, you know, we
Speaker 5: originally had talked about way back of like and we
Speaker 5: had pitched it for WWE to kind of do a
Speaker 5: trition Mickey angle with Chelsea and I, but like Roles
Speaker 5: kind of reversed a bit and obviously change a lot
Speaker 5: of the how it was going to go down because
Speaker 5: you have to make it different. But it would be
Speaker 5: kind of inspired off of that to kind of come
Speaker 5: full circle, and so we were able to kind of
Speaker 5: tease a little bit of that when we went to
Speaker 5: Impact and do a little bit of it. And obviously
Speaker 5: tomorrow is the pretty much final chapter of me and
Speaker 5: Chelsea in that sense of we're fighting tomorrow on Impact Wrestling,
Speaker 5: and it could be the end of the last rodeo.
Speaker 5: I mean, is it you mean, like, am I gonna
Speaker 5: really retire? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it because you're you're young, baby, You've talked about this.
Speaker 1: You know. I think you've got a lot more rodeos
Speaker 1: in you, and I think the fans don't want to
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 5: In I know, I know, and if you I mean,
Speaker 5: I feel like the consensus for the most part is like,
Speaker 5: obviously they don't want it to be over. But if
Speaker 5: you would have heard the sound the my neck made
Speaker 5: at the chiropractor today, it was intense.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you something. I'm switching ears. So
Speaker 1: I started stem cell, right, I did, and I've had
Speaker 1: two sessions so far. So when I started, I started
Speaker 1: on my neck and I was very disappointed. Because I
Speaker 1: came home afterwards I felt relief. But they do all
Speaker 1: this stuff before they give you the actual stems. Right,
Speaker 1: there was a machine for a rectile dysfunction that they
Speaker 1: actually use.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, very well.
Speaker 4: So they can do stem cell for the for the
Speaker 4: for the ED.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't I suppose you could shoot that stuff
Speaker 1: anywhere in your body for sure?
Speaker 4: Stand up real straight that Yeah, selling men out on
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, is it gonna make it grow? Oh?
Speaker 3: Up?
Speaker 1: This one was a jackhammer that it went like this,
Speaker 1: and they used it on my neck and it relieves
Speaker 1: all your tension. And I'm telling you, I felt terrific
Speaker 1: after that. But they actually used that on men's penises.
Speaker 1: Because Sandman was with me and he kept screaming, I
Speaker 1: would never let you put this on my cock. What
Speaker 1: are you crazy? That's all the kept saying over that hat.
Speaker 1: We filmed the whole thing. It's on YouTube. I documented
Speaker 1: the journey, not very professionally my dad, because me and
Speaker 1: Sandman together are ridiculous. But I did start with my
Speaker 1: neck and then you have to go back every twelve weeks.
Speaker 1: So I had two injections in my neck and two
Speaker 1: in like my shoulder area. So I'm going to get
Speaker 1: two more up here and two more down here, gonna
Speaker 1: work on my back and then my hips.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: I will keep you post it because the do I'm
Speaker 1: a too herniated disc. I don't know like what you're
Speaker 1: suffering with.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just wear and tear. Twenty plus years of
Speaker 5: taking bumps and doing silly stuff and landing on my
Speaker 5: head and my neck and my back and breaking my
Speaker 5: shoulders and you know, just it's just things. I don't
Speaker 5: feel like, oh, it's like, oh, I'm in so much pain.
Speaker 5: But I do recognize that I have an eight year
Speaker 5: old little boy and some days I can't turn my head.
Speaker 5: Like I can turn my head a lot more today
Speaker 5: after going to the chiropractor than I can most days,
Speaker 5: And just like little things, and you know, being in
Speaker 5: the business for so long, Franny, like how many locker
Speaker 5: rooms have we been in? And some of the veterans
Speaker 5: and the old timers that are still wrestling, still out
Speaker 5: there taking bumps.
Speaker 4: And they're in so much pain, and it would just
Speaker 4: like it broke my heart.
Speaker 5: And it was just like I just want to be
Speaker 5: able to be there and be present and be the best,
Speaker 5: my best self as a mother for my son. And
Speaker 5: I'm still young, Like you said, I have the whole
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Jack, I do want to get it done.
Speaker 5: Though there's you know, there's a doctor that's in Oh nice.
Speaker 1: But this was the New Jersey Well Hack was filming, obviously,
Speaker 1: but that that was the jackhammer, and that they put
Speaker 1: on men's penises. I don't know how they how.
Speaker 3: They do it.
Speaker 1: He didn't give me a demonstration. But it does relieve
Speaker 1: all the tension in you know, in the neck ear,
Speaker 1: and I was able to move and I didn't have
Speaker 1: pain for about three days after I had that treatment done,
Speaker 1: which that's incredible. It was pretty good.
Speaker 5: I've heard amazing things about the stem cell stuff, and
Speaker 5: I've definitely like wanted to look into it. I think
Speaker 5: I can't remember where Kurt went or where some other
Speaker 5: the guys because there was like this, I can't remember
Speaker 5: where it was where they you would go and it
Speaker 5: was almost like a private vacation for like a week
Speaker 5: and you would get like all the stem cell done.
Speaker 5: And I mean, obviously it's expensive, but it's kind of
Speaker 5: like you're on a painful vacation of true true.
Speaker 1: You know, I will definitely keep you posted because if
Speaker 1: it worth, I'm gonna be doing backflips. Billy J five dollars,
Speaker 1: super gut. I think it's really well with everybody. Mickey
Speaker 1: has the best guns, but rarely shows them off. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: Why why is that Mickey feel like I show them off?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't go out there hitting the double
Speaker 5: bicep post because I'm not like.
Speaker 4: I I'm not like a powerlifter or anything, you know.
Speaker 4: So I'm not like, oh I'm jacked, that's my thing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I got a little baby, I got a
Speaker 5: little baby muscles there, they're there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you do, show off and and
Speaker 1: they're beautiful ry boobies. I've been seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: Mickey's boobies lately.
Speaker 4: Thank these low cut. You know my love a V neut.
Speaker 4: I love a V cut. I love a V cut.
Speaker 1: I went to get a mammogram and they ask you,
Speaker 1: do you have breast implants? I always say yes, I do. Yes.
Speaker 1: When did you get them? Oh? I got them back
Speaker 1: in the weight day of nineteen ninety seven, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, lady goes, well, I can't find them, and
Speaker 1: I go, what do you mean you can't find them?
Speaker 1: And she goes, they're not there? And I where'd they go?
Speaker 1: And she goes, they ruptured? This is you now? And
Speaker 1: so I don't have boobs anymore?
Speaker 5: Are you serious?
Speaker 4: And yes, oh my god, So you still.
Speaker 5: Have the little bat you know. I've busted two of mine,
Speaker 5: the same one twiceow okay, yeah, so I popped it
Speaker 5: popped twice.
Speaker 4: And so now it's more of like the gummy bear.
Speaker 1: I've heard about those.
Speaker 5: I went back the last time I had them done.
Speaker 5: I had, but I just had my first mammogram. Oh yeah, Chad,
Speaker 5: I know you're enjoying this conversation.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, it's the shape. Yeah, it's a different
Speaker 1: form of a breast in plant. They have all new ones. Baby.
Speaker 1: When I went to like helicoon or saline and I
Speaker 1: I said, oh, siling, you know write and so my
Speaker 1: bags are still in there. But we talked about hemrhoids
Speaker 1: when I was on your show.
Speaker 5: We let's talk about I don't know that we're going
Speaker 5: to talk about that today.
Speaker 1: Well, no, we're what were we just talking about?
Speaker 5: That's how old I No? Oh, he was saying, who's
Speaker 5: still who said that he got the bioccelery that's what the.
Speaker 4: Name of it is.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, No, we were just saying that. I said,
Speaker 1: we're going to discuss.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, did the gummy bears? Because I'm kind
Speaker 3: of stuck.
Speaker 1: So the mammogram the mammogram, right, I.
Speaker 3: Was just gonna tell me the gummy bearing that but I.
Speaker 1: Want to hear that's the same question.
Speaker 5: And she's like, oh, well, do you have implants and
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, well, yes I do, and she goes, oh, well,
Speaker 5: it doesn't really look like you have them, and I go, well,
Speaker 5: I tried not to get like this. I didn't want
Speaker 5: it to be like, hey, look at me and my
Speaker 5: big fake boobs, Like I just wanted to fill out
Speaker 5: like I got a big butt, or at least I
Speaker 5: had a big butt I had, you know, like i'd
Speaker 5: want to be, even especially once I was in ob
Speaker 5: W because because you know, you're working out eight hours
Speaker 5: a day, some of those things I had. By the
Speaker 5: time I made up to TV, I was like, I
Speaker 5: am the lowest percentage body fat I've ever been, and
Speaker 5: my boobs are gone, Like they just they said they
Speaker 5: took a trip and they didn't come back, and they
Speaker 5: didn't come back until I got pregnant with my son,
Speaker 5: that's for sure. And then they came back in full effect.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and the breast milk and everything, and yes.
Speaker 4: It was the thing it was, but so yeah, I
Speaker 4: got them done then.
Speaker 5: And then I popped one during doing my head scissors
Speaker 5: out of the corner. That there's when I break like
Speaker 5: a bunch, I jump up. I guess it had gotten caught,
Speaker 5: like because it's underneath the muscle. It had gotten caught
Speaker 5: and pinched between the muscle, and it was salineau for
Speaker 5: the same reason, because I go like, well, we wrestle
Speaker 5: for a living. I don't want silicone one. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of adverse effects of it encapsulating and hardening, and
Speaker 5: obviously if it broke and got into your body, it
Speaker 5: was taxic toxic, taxic toxic.
Speaker 1: Tomato.
Speaker 4: Get out of my head.
Speaker 5: So I ruptured it then and then I was on
Speaker 5: and so that was the first one. And then when
Speaker 5: I got that one, I only got the one. I
Speaker 5: only got the one replaced to one because they were
Speaker 5: still fairly new. And then I went back that actually
Speaker 5: wasn't too long ago. God, what was it twenty eighteen?
Speaker 5: I ruptured one, the same one I don't know how
Speaker 5: again in a match on that on the house show loop,
Speaker 5: and I had to go back, and that's when I
Speaker 5: decided to switch them out. And this jelly now is
Speaker 5: like impossible. The gummy, because it's just one piece, is
Speaker 5: impossible to rupture. Like it's not impossible, but you pretty
Speaker 5: much have to get like shot in the chest or
Speaker 5: like some extreme trauma trauma I can't speak today.
Speaker 1: Like a chop, like a really hard chop.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, like you know, like a like
Speaker 5: a serious like a serious.
Speaker 4: Okay thing to rupture it, because it's when you did.
Speaker 1: So when you did rupture the other two times, did
Speaker 1: you know it right then? Did you feel it? Because
Speaker 1: I didn't feel anything. The first mine was a slow leak.
Speaker 4: Yeah. This that was my second one.
Speaker 5: I must have like done something because it was fine,
Speaker 5: and then it was not fine. The first one I
Speaker 5: knew immediately it felt like I had tore. I thought
Speaker 5: I had torn my peck like I thought I tore
Speaker 5: because you can feel the saline. It's like saltwater, so
Speaker 5: all that saltwater it ruptured and was like rushing into
Speaker 5: my system. So I could feel like this weird burning.
Speaker 5: But then the doc checked my uh, you know, everything,
Speaker 5: and then I went to go change, like after I go.
Speaker 4: Like, I think I tore something. I don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 5: It's weird. And then I went to go change, and
Speaker 5: of course half my boot was gone, and I was like, uh, an, arevation.
Speaker 4: The devastation right?
Speaker 5: Well? The devastation is waking up the next day and
Speaker 5: there's literally nothing left and you're complete ly lopsided and
Speaker 5: like they're just like a little fried egg there.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm I still have boobs now, they're not as perky obviously,
Speaker 1: because you know, I had two kids. I breasted and
Speaker 1: but they said the bags are still in there. And
Speaker 1: my doctor said, well, you can keep the bags in
Speaker 1: because they were saline. It won't bother you at all.
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm walking around with these bags that
Speaker 1: are just flat in my boobs. But I've been wearing
Speaker 1: push up bras. They look okay in a pushupra in
Speaker 1: a push up bra, yeah, you know, pretty good.
Speaker 4: And I have that wonderbral now and that'll give you
Speaker 4: a cup and a half.
Speaker 1: It was it was a half a cup when it
Speaker 1: first came out. It was like a cup and a hand.
Speaker 1: I gotta look into that because I need some help
Speaker 1: I do. My husband wants. I said, I want two things.
Speaker 1: I want my boobs done again, and I want to
Speaker 1: get lipt injections here, just like, get the hell out
Speaker 1: of here. You're not getting why not? It'll be great.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I think you're okay as you are,
Speaker 1: and oh, ok, yeah, you know. But for me. I
Speaker 1: just want I want them. I want them to touch
Speaker 1: my chin. I want to see both of them like.
Speaker 5: I want to walk, just walk around. You can put
Speaker 5: your plate there.
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to serve on my titties.
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore. Mattie f and D five dollars,
Speaker 1: super chat Chatre scene, love you both. Thank you, Maddie, Mickey,
Speaker 1: mad respect and so fine. It blows my mind. Oh,
Speaker 1: lots of new women. They have means out here. Any
Speaker 1: dream matches Mickey, anyone. Is there anyone that you have
Speaker 1: not worked with that you were like, God, I want
Speaker 1: to work with them.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, God, there's so many. I
Speaker 4: think there's a lot.
Speaker 5: There's a lot. There's girls on the you know. Obviously,
Speaker 5: I'm I've been working a lot with Impact now and
Speaker 5: I'm on this journey, on this last rodeo, and the
Speaker 5: goal is to win the Knockouts champion ship. And right
Speaker 5: now Jordan is the champion and I've never faced her before.
Speaker 5: But I still have a ways to go before I
Speaker 5: get there, because I wanted to do it the right
Speaker 5: way and kind of climb the climb the mountain. But
Speaker 5: there's you know, I look at the w WE roster
Speaker 5: and there's a bunch of girls that I never really
Speaker 5: had a single I didn't get to have a singles
Speaker 5: feud with a lot of those girls that were there.
Speaker 5: When I was there, it was a lot of tag matches.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of alliances or like six girl
Speaker 5: tags or I was with Alexa a lot, But there
Speaker 5: weren't a lot of singles matches you know that I
Speaker 5: got to have. I'd love to wrestle with like Rhea Ripley,
Speaker 5: I never got a chance to. I love those. I
Speaker 5: know there's a big size different, but I love those
Speaker 5: underdog matches. I always have, always like Beth Phoenix was
Speaker 5: one of my favorite opponents because of that, you know,
Speaker 5: but same even in the aw locker room, like uh Jade,
Speaker 5: I think I think her, I think Britt. I would
Speaker 5: love to wrestle with Britt. You know Tony Storm, even
Speaker 5: like Tony. The last time I wrestled Tony was in
Speaker 5: England prior to her getting signed with NXT, and this
Speaker 5: was when and before I went back, so she was
Speaker 5: still very new and like trying to make a name
Speaker 5: for herself and so to see how far she's come
Speaker 5: you know, since then, it's been amazing, right, you know,
Speaker 5: I love women's wrestling. So there's the thing is is,
Speaker 5: you know, when we were starting and Francine, you know,
Speaker 5: this is like, there was a lot less women training
Speaker 5: to be wrestlers. You know, there was a lot less.
Speaker 5: There was some really amazing female talent out there.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: There was Jacqueline, there was Molly, there was Jazz Like.
Speaker 5: There was some incredible talented wrestlers, but there weren't as
Speaker 5: many talents on the indies actually wrestling because if they
Speaker 5: were any good, they would get signed, you know, because
Speaker 5: there was just it was like slim pickens otherwise.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just how it was.
Speaker 5: And now, because the culture has changed and the respect
Speaker 5: for women's wrestling has changed so much, there's women who
Speaker 5: are training, you know, left and right to be wrestlers,
Speaker 5: and they're coming from all these diverse backgrounds and they're
Speaker 5: just really freaking good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: So it's exciting times. I can't believe I'm still doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, Nikki, how big of a part did OVW
Speaker 2: play in the development? So stuff you learned up to
Speaker 2: getting to OVW, and then what you learn.
Speaker 4: There you know.
Speaker 5: I so the journey to OBW, I wouldn't I was
Speaker 5: I had, you know, my road was I would say,
Speaker 5: all along hard road. But there's a lot of valuable
Speaker 5: lessons and experiences and friendships that I had in that
Speaker 5: journey of that struggle of trying to make it and
Speaker 5: then that moment of finally getting signed, even just to
Speaker 5: developmental in those two almost two and a half years
Speaker 5: in OBW, but I learned how to wrestle on the indies,
Speaker 5: and I got a lot of my nerves, and I
Speaker 5: got had a lot of those terrible, terrible matches and
Speaker 5: just really kind of hone myself as far as like
Speaker 5: being able to put on a match and put on
Speaker 5: a good match and and try to like learn my character.
Speaker 5: But ov W was the difference maker for me because
Speaker 5: it took me from a wrestler to a worker, and
Speaker 5: it fine tuned all of my tools and my tool
Speaker 5: shed to where by the time I made it to TV,
Speaker 5: I was so sharp, I was so in tune, and
Speaker 5: I just really had that confidence that you're always you know,
Speaker 5: trying to get oh was that good enough? Or you know,
Speaker 5: and we still but I just I don't know if
Speaker 5: I would have been the performer, and just like the
Speaker 5: able the ability to think on my feet, and just
Speaker 5: the confidence and that security of like knowing that I'm
Speaker 5: going to deliver without OVW.
Speaker 4: So I always throw back to those.
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, who was there, Rip Rogers was there
Speaker 5: when I first got there, Jim Cornett, Danny Davis, God
Speaker 5: sent Danny Davis, but just you know, and then Al
Speaker 5: came in, and Lance Storm came through and trying to
Speaker 5: build amot and just uh and a lot of the
Speaker 5: guys like you would come back when he was coming
Speaker 5: from you know, his injury, and he came back and
Speaker 5: he would help us out. So everybody would come back through.
Speaker 5: The Dudley boys came back when they were coming through there,
Speaker 5: when they were getting ready to come back to TV.
Speaker 4: So you would get a lot of.
Speaker 5: Knowledge directly from people on TV making the money as
Speaker 5: far as and who were there where you want to
Speaker 5: kind of get. But also it was a very protective
Speaker 5: environment because only the people in that little Kentuckyana region
Speaker 5: actually saw you on TV. It wasn't like broadcasted to
Speaker 5: the world to see, right, So you were very protected
Speaker 5: and you were in like this little pocket. So if
Speaker 5: you were failing or floundering or whatever, and learning you
Speaker 5: were doing it in front of a small group of people,
Speaker 5: not in front of the entire world. And I had
Speaker 5: already been on TV because I was at TNA prior
Speaker 5: to that.
Speaker 1: So can we get back to TNA for a second.
Speaker 1: I just want to really quick catch up with with
Speaker 1: all the super chats here. We missed a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: We have Christy, Thank you, Christy five dollars super chat uh.
Speaker 1: Dan Lemley with the four ninety nine super chat, Thank
Speaker 1: you Dan.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Tony LaRusso got to he's got to what's the one
Speaker 1: type of match you want to have on your last rodeo.
Speaker 4: Oh man?
Speaker 1: Type of match do you want to have? You're all
Speaker 1: going in the.
Speaker 2: Charles chip Yard that Francine's episode of Got TV was laughing,
Speaker 2: crying face.
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 5: It was there that night.
Speaker 1: I do remember Tony.
Speaker 5: That Tony's the best and if you I mean because
Speaker 5: he is a subscriber to our Patreon too. So he
Speaker 5: saw the full extended version uncut.
Speaker 4: I think that's where we talked about the hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1: I don't know we did. It was wonderful, my best conversation.
Speaker 5: He was like, I don't know if I love the
Speaker 5: fact that I got that. But you know, I was say,
Speaker 5: oh god, there's so many Uh. I would say the
Speaker 5: Ultimate X Match, but I really don't know that I
Speaker 5: want to commit to that because it's really high up.
Speaker 5: It's really I don't love heights, be honest. I'm vertically challenged,
Speaker 5: and I think God made it that way for a reason.
Speaker 5: My big thing off the top is a flying thedspress.
Speaker 5: If that gives you anything, I'm just jumping straight at
Speaker 5: you like a meer cat. Maybe a last woman standing
Speaker 5: last Yeah, oh god, I mean I've done hardcore matches.
Speaker 5: I've done Maybe we could do the Clockwork Orange House
Speaker 5: of Fun match. So I was the firstly male to
Speaker 5: ever participate in a Clockwork Orange House of Fun match.
Speaker 1: You should bring that up. I think that sounds fabulous.
Speaker 4: Come full circle.
Speaker 1: We got another question here from Lawn of five dollars
Speaker 1: super trat Mickey, is there one thing you have liked
Speaker 1: to change or improved upon from empowered pay per view?
Speaker 1: I change about that pay per view or improve upon.
Speaker 5: The only thing I would have changed about that pay
Speaker 5: per view is that I would have ensured that there
Speaker 5: was which I had no I didn't know about. I
Speaker 5: would have ensured that there was a way to protect
Speaker 5: it so people didn't steal the stream like there was
Speaker 5: nothing in place, from there was nothing in place, because
Speaker 5: it trend at number one over UFC and number two
Speaker 5: that night, so it was a very successful pay per view.
Speaker 5: But the reality is a lot of people watch that
Speaker 5: pay per view for free because fight TV didn't. It
Speaker 5: doesn't And I was unaware of this because I would
Speaker 5: have because I guess it's a third party thing, because
Speaker 5: I would have paid for it myself had I known.
Speaker 5: It's an add on thing where they will put that
Speaker 5: protection a like WWE or any of those other companies
Speaker 5: do to where you can't steal the pay per view
Speaker 5: and just stream it for free. So that's the only thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, top to bottom, I thought the card was magnificent.
Speaker 5: I thought it was exactly what it was its name,
Speaker 5: and I thought it was super successful.
Speaker 4: And you know, that was just one like little thing.
Speaker 5: But as far as the people that were on it,
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously I would have loved to have even
Speaker 5: more women on it. I mean that would been something
Speaker 5: and have more of a like a collaborative effort and more.
Speaker 5: But I thought it was a positive and amazing thing.
Speaker 1: You should be very proud of everything that you accomplished.
Speaker 5: I am proud, and I'm grateful for everybody involved.
Speaker 1: So wonderful, I am. I am very proud of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that as well. Matti f and D
Speaker 1: says you and Nick deserve more respect from NWA. It's sad, yes,
Speaker 1: and that's what we'll say about that. So thank you,
Speaker 1: Maddie f and D. It's funny because you know, when
Speaker 1: I first started, I had every intention of being a
Speaker 1: female wrestler, and Paul Hayman's the one who put the
Speaker 1: brakes on that. And as I was training to wrestle
Speaker 1: my first night into ECWE, Paul was finally there because
Speaker 1: Eddie Gilbert had left and Paul come in and I
Speaker 1: had been training for I don't know how many months,
Speaker 1: you know, as a wrestler, and he says, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you're not going to make your money as a female wrestler.
Speaker 1: And he's never seen me work, right, And you know,
Speaker 1: this was in a locker room on a house show,
Speaker 1: and he says, women's wrestling, this is what he told
Speaker 1: me on This is nineteen ninety Fourish wrestling does not
Speaker 1: draw you will make money as a manager, and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm going to use you as, right, And I
Speaker 1: said to myself, but I wanted to be a wrestler.
Speaker 1: I thought I was training to be a female wrestler.
Speaker 1: So I mean, my whole career path changed within three
Speaker 1: sentences from Paul Heman's right. Powerful this managed. But I
Speaker 1: always wonder like if I didn't listen to him and
Speaker 1: I try to pursue what I thought my dream was.
Speaker 1: I think it worked out pretty well for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but I just wonder, like, how different would
Speaker 1: my life have been now if I had taken a
Speaker 1: different path.
Speaker 5: You know, I asked myself that same question all the
Speaker 5: time too, because I go like, what if that tryout
Speaker 5: at ECW had panned out for me? I wonder what
Speaker 5: my career would have looked like then, you know, would
Speaker 5: have had the same opportunities, would have had the same struggles,
Speaker 5: what I had stronger struggles, you know, because I wasn't
Speaker 5: ready then. I was very green and naive to the business,
Speaker 5: and I was still you know, I knew how to
Speaker 5: take the bumps and I knew how to take the moves,
Speaker 5: but as far as putting a real match together, or
Speaker 5: knowing the business side and the politics side and all
Speaker 5: that stuff and just not being a green idiot.
Speaker 4: I was not. I was.
Speaker 5: I was so just happy to be there, you know,
Speaker 5: happy to get an opportunity that It's just like hungryness
Speaker 5: is an amazing thing, but it also can set you
Speaker 5: up to get screwed over a lot of times because
Speaker 5: you're just so happy to be there, right like, and
Speaker 5: it is you forget that it's a business at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, and and everyone that's in the business,
Speaker 5: in that side of the business is looking at it
Speaker 5: as a business and that's something that you learn over time.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent agreed. We have a super chat here
Speaker 1: for Mickey D. I'm sure this is one of the gaul.
Speaker 5: Or Mickey screwed Mickey Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that what it? There was an accidental time out
Speaker 1: on the gall chat in Power was amazing. I wish
Speaker 1: things would NWA could have moved forward.
Speaker 5: I think yeah, And who's to say, and they may
Speaker 5: do another Empower and I wish I hope they do,
Speaker 5: and I hope that it's extremely successful because I want
Speaker 5: women's wrestling to always do amazing.
Speaker 4: I am so sorry, Mickey D.
Speaker 5: So as you know that we have our gol TV
Speaker 5: on Wednesdays. We just finished about an hour ago, well
Speaker 5: five pm Eastern, and Mickey D is one of our loyal, faithful,
Speaker 5: amazing there every single week, one of the biggest supporters
Speaker 5: of god TV. And so, as you know, in the
Speaker 5: YouTube chat, you can respond and reply, and I somehow
Speaker 5: clicked poor Mickey D's name and I put them in
Speaker 5: time out for three hundred seconds for seconds.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, buddy.
Speaker 1: Well, she loves you, Mickey D, and we appreciate you
Speaker 1: being here the Sea.
Speaker 2: Your show was on right before we got on here
Speaker 2: because I caught the tail end of the the Your
Speaker 2: show is fabulous.
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't watched GAUW, I advise you to
Speaker 1: go over there. The girls are so fun. And I
Speaker 1: want to come back on because I still have body
Speaker 1: fluids and body parts that I have not discussed yet
Speaker 1: that we need to talking about before we get to
Speaker 1: Billy J. Because I want to Well, let's do Billy
Speaker 1: Jay and then one more thing I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about before we let you go. Billy J
Speaker 1: with a ten dollars super chat. Thank you, Billy Hey,
Speaker 1: just come back to w W a Mickey postlist rodeo.
Speaker 1: If you could face Charlotte and thank you for the
Speaker 1: gun show. You rocked it. Jordan is huge, but your
Speaker 1: is hotter.
Speaker 5: Look at that one of my muscles is bigger than
Speaker 5: the other. It's weird.
Speaker 1: Don't tell us.
Speaker 5: I think that's the one I'm always slinging when I'm
Speaker 5: cleaning the stalls.
Speaker 4: I think that's the one that I get the most.
Speaker 1: You don't know that, Billy ten dollars, thank you?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Charlotte?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? I would love to wrestle Charlotte.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Charlotte and I never really touched. We
Speaker 5: did a little bit in the Rumble, and then this
Speaker 5: time that was like one of the first we've been
Speaker 5: across the ring from each other, but we've never actually
Speaker 5: had a match. And I've always said that I would love, love,
Speaker 5: love to do a match with her, and you know,
Speaker 5: I'd be willing to put my career on it.
Speaker 4: How about that.
Speaker 1: Part of the last rodeo, Let's do another last Let's
Speaker 1: just do last rodeos in every company.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's a great name, fits you perfectly of Alba, perfect love.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Can we just go back really quickly? Because I never
Speaker 1: really talked to you about this. So when T and
Speaker 1: A for started it was called DNA. You and I
Speaker 1: were there. You were Alexis Larie I was and we
Speaker 1: have watched this and God rest her soul. Shannon and
Speaker 1: I would watch this and laugh our asses off. When
Speaker 1: we did the ten Woman Battle.
Speaker 4: Royal Lingerie twenty five, here here was this.
Speaker 1: Was the thing. It was supposed to be ten. They
Speaker 1: announced it as ten, but there were only nine girls there.
Speaker 4: So because there was nobody wrestled, there was a female, we.
Speaker 1: Were just you know, I remember Jerry Lawler's girlfriend at
Speaker 1: the time was there, right, and she came up to
Speaker 1: me and she was scared to death. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember her name, but she was sweetest pie.
Speaker 1: And she came over and she said, Jerry said I
Speaker 1: could trust you, Will you work with me tonight? And
Speaker 1: I said sure, why not? You know, right, right kind
Speaker 1: of paired off, but then as people got eliminated, it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well we have to start beating up
Speaker 1: everybody right in this ring. It was the biggest cluster.
Speaker 5: They really didn't give us a whole lot of direction either,
Speaker 5: it was no, we just like bbi's gotta go over
Speaker 5: and that's it. I mean, I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: so green at that point, and I'm just it's like
Speaker 5: The Blind Lead and the Blind.
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched it?
Speaker 5: I have not, and I struggled to watch. I will
Speaker 5: struggle to watch my old matches.
Speaker 4: I just cringe.
Speaker 1: Please watch it. Yes, I wish I could watch it
Speaker 1: sitting right next to you with the bever.
Speaker 5: We will.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do that on here one day.
Speaker 1: It is the funniest thing in the world. A girl
Speaker 1: trips as she's running to the ring. She was one
Speaker 1: of the cheerleaders. She falls, my boobs pop out as
Speaker 1: four people are beating me up and electric remember Electra, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hanging out. It's the fun I'm telling you, if you
Speaker 1: can get your hands on it, it's the funniest. It's terrible,
Speaker 1: but it's great. In the same sentence, yeah, that's all
Speaker 1: I have to say. But I was trying to think,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think that's one of the only
Speaker 1: times I ever shared a ring with you. I know
Speaker 1: that in the promo that we did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sad, and I've known you for well it's
Speaker 5: not too late for Frannie.
Speaker 1: It's never too late.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're not too late.
Speaker 1: I might have I might Oh yes, okay, I might
Speaker 1: have to jump in on one of those last radios.
Speaker 1: You never know where somebody can show up.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well you're a big baby face.
Speaker 4: You know you could come down baby face for me.
Speaker 4: I know. I'm just because I don't want you to
Speaker 4: hit you with the stick. I want you to hit
Speaker 4: somebody else with the stick.
Speaker 1: Well, I can go to hit you, but then I
Speaker 1: miss right because because I'm old in my eyeslate too, man,
Speaker 1: I won't wear my glasses.
Speaker 4: Too right back, and then it hits you right.
Speaker 1: Take a bump for you.
Speaker 5: Love it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna book it.
Speaker 1: We could do that. Matty f and d favorite current
Speaker 1: storyline mjf Room and Sammy. Are you watching a lot
Speaker 1: of wrestling these days?
Speaker 5: Because I do Bust It Open on Wednesday mornings as well.
Speaker 4: I've been.
Speaker 5: It's been fun. I do Bust It Open on Sirius
Speaker 5: XM on Wednesday mornings with Tommy Dreamer and with David Lcgreca,
Speaker 5: and so we've started doing Women of Wednesdays. So that
Speaker 5: was one of the big things of like to be
Speaker 5: able to highlight a woman in the industry, both current
Speaker 5: or previous, on a Wednesday. So that's fun. It's been fun.
Speaker 5: So I've been trying to keep up with it. It's
Speaker 5: a struggle to watch everything, especially when you have an
Speaker 5: eight year old dictator who owns the television. So I
Speaker 5: watch a lot of wrestling, like I do everything in life,
Speaker 5: and highlight reels on Instagram, So I do try to
Speaker 5: sit down and watch a lot. Dude, Sammy Zane stuff
Speaker 5: is some of the funniest stuff He's He's always been great,
Speaker 5: but like he's like in a whole new level of
Speaker 5: entertaining right now with this with Roman and with the
Speaker 5: Bloodline stuff. I just think it also shows like this
Speaker 5: comedic side of Roman.
Speaker 4: That you forget is there? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I love the Jericho stuff. I love everything that Jericho's doing.
Speaker 4: At the moment. You know, God, I don't.
Speaker 1: Really have a paper.
Speaker 4: Is he a little bit Telly?
Speaker 1: You're you're doing a lot of things, your mom traveling,
Speaker 1: you're working from home. I mean, I get it. You
Speaker 1: know you don't have that. You don't have time to
Speaker 1: watch twenty hours of wrestling.
Speaker 5: I don't well, And then like it's tomorrow. I have
Speaker 5: a flight to the UK and I have a double connection,
Speaker 5: so I don't even know if I get in until
Speaker 5: Friday morning to the UK.
Speaker 4: Now I'm doing like a comic con?
Speaker 1: Is this the one with Trish?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: That's fun, so excited, so excited.
Speaker 4: Have you seen her lately or I saw her?
Speaker 5: The last time I saw her was at a comic con.
Speaker 5: Actually it was a comic con we were doing together.
Speaker 5: I want to say it was in like Alabama or
Speaker 5: some like obscure because we've only done one together in
Speaker 5: the United States and then we've this will be our
Speaker 5: second one we've done and the UK together. I know
Speaker 5: they want that double photo op right, I think who
Speaker 5: doesn't want that?
Speaker 4: Pick?
Speaker 1: If any bookers are listening, get on that.
Speaker 4: A thorn between two roses.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know, crazy.
Speaker 5: Well, a rose and a tulip, a tulip.
Speaker 1: This was delightful. I'm so glad you were able to
Speaker 1: make it. I don't want to keep you. I know
Speaker 1: you have to pack, you probably have a million things
Speaker 1: to do. Can you please tell the fans where they
Speaker 1: can find you and any appearances coming up that you'd
Speaker 1: like to promote?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'll be at Russell Kate at the end of
Speaker 4: the month. I'm gonna yes, Oh, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go watch that match together.
Speaker 1: I watch my iPad and drink a couple.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, kool aides dat.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You can go to Mickey James dot com. That's where
Speaker 5: you can find everything. I just started a new newsletter,
Speaker 5: a new news a newsletter this month was my first
Speaker 5: one out.
Speaker 4: That's why it's new.
Speaker 5: Started a newsletter there on the website because I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to a little bit of traditional stuff,
Speaker 5: you know. But it has all my links, my Twitter,
Speaker 5: my Facebook page, my Instagram, even my TikTok. And the
Speaker 5: only thing that's not verified, although anybody can get verified
Speaker 5: on Twitter now, the only thing that's not verified is
Speaker 5: my TikTok because I don't know what the hell I'm
Speaker 5: doing there. Sure, gorgeous, thank you, gorgeous. Yes, that was
Speaker 5: from a Native American That was from one of my
Speaker 5: concerts I did, or was it a Native American tribute?
Speaker 4: Maybe the oh God knows.
Speaker 5: But that's also one of the that top I had
Speaker 5: made when I was in WWE, and so I repurposed it.
Speaker 1: Your arms look incredible by the way in that picture.
Speaker 4: Thanks my shoulders look at act.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna go out there and just start
Speaker 5: doing shoulder presses, right.
Speaker 1: All right, So Mickey James dot com is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, and then all.
Speaker 5: Your galltv dot com go follow gold tv dot tv.
Speaker 4: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, honey, I look, whether it's the last rodeo or
Speaker 1: whether you have another one hundred years in you, we
Speaker 1: enjoy watching you. Thank you for everything that you've contributed
Speaker 1: to the sport.
Speaker 5: Well did oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you to what you will contribute, and and good
Speaker 1: luck against Chelsea little yeah, a little ChIL chell. I
Speaker 1: mean I think you have it in you to kick
Speaker 1: her ass.
Speaker 4: I want to kick her as I'm going to comment
Speaker 4: and I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you at the end of the month.
Speaker 5: I can't wait. I'm serious about that. We are going
Speaker 5: to drink kol aid. We don't necessarily have to watch
Speaker 5: that match unless you really want to.
Speaker 1: For I'm telling you a good Mickey peer pants moment.
Speaker 5: I don't need a video to do that.
Speaker 1: It's true, just saying it'll be fun. But thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming. Have a team, have a great
Speaker 1: time in the UK and I will definitely talk to you.
Speaker 5: Some awesome Thank you, thank you byets, meet you, Chad,
Speaker 5: thank you, bye.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.
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