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Speaker 3: now have access to The Odd Couple Jofrah Washington, Martin

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Speaker 3: great chopping it up with him. Next hour one's gotta

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Speaker 3: have Last Call. Will also have uh Yaron Weisman, NBA

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Speaker 3: reporter author in Hollywood, ending the dreams and drama of

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Speaker 3: the Lebron James Lakers. Obviously a lot to get you

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Speaker 3: from that game last night.

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Speaker 4: Martin.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in just a little bit. How

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Speaker 4: Man? I'm doing all right. Uh, this is my first

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Speaker 3: Now that the camera is allah and now I gotta

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Speaker 3: make sure my seat height is appropriate because yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: trying to you over here, look at six ship. I

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Speaker 3: told you Coveno. I mean he's not even like sure,

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Speaker 4: Up my thing. He's not Rob's here, Covino. What are

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Speaker 4: we having a conversation of who's welcome? My point is

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Speaker 5: He's like he is short.

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Speaker 4: That's why, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying that his chair that he's making it

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Speaker 3: I'm over here, my head on the shoe. Yeah, yesterday

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Speaker 4: But now I still I've.

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Speaker 3: Never shot this high most of the time when I'm working.

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Speaker 4: This was Monte Hype, believe it.

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Speaker 3: Or not, not in an issue for her right, Well, well, listen,

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Speaker 3: Dot checked, Elijah, we were at twenty thousand point nine subscribers.

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Speaker 4: Ye're welcome.

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Speaker 3: A whole lot to get to. As I mentioned, let's

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Speaker 3: welcome in the crew. We got Robb Gi producer extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: Well Mexican is.

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Speaker 3: Right AKA, but Mexican had no idea why we call

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Speaker 3: him that we have on the updates, we'll be Monte Milanos.

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Speaker 3: As we just talked to you. There, get us the

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Speaker 3: twenty two thousand subscribers we have on the bores, Alex

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Speaker 3: So a whole lot to get you on this here show,

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Speaker 3: on this worship Wednesday. Also, want to tell you, by

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Speaker 4: We are there. As you mentioned, just.

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Speaker 3: Like, share comments, subscribe robb You will read some of

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Speaker 3: the comments throughout the show. Robb Gi, we had a

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Speaker 3: game that a lot of folks paying attention to, of course,

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Speaker 3: I guess the Orlando magic that ended not magical for

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Speaker 5: That's a nice way of putting it. Another way of

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Speaker 4: To the whoa, whoa. You sound like a Laker fan.

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Speaker 5: It was a rough scene all around at Crypto dot com.

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Speaker 6: Long story short, Lakers down by Orlando. You know, they

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I mean, obviously you have to ask

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Speaker 7: that's what I look. That's my POV. Did you and

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Speaker 8: I mean, I just saw him open. I didn't want

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Speaker 8: But like I said, you know, I should have picked

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Speaker 8: I know it was open, but I just thought it

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Speaker 3: kind of talking to his teammates. He said, Lebron told

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Speaker 4: We're six minutes in. That's how you want to start

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Speaker 4: trying know my bad And I don't even lie. You know.

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Speaker 3: I was about you're a boy and an arbor Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to see that. I'm about to say it.

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Speaker 3: We're six minutes in if my basketball team has lost

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I was sitting there. I was sitting

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Speaker 3: bring it up to say this Martin. To me, what

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Speaker 3: This Lebron, Luca, Luca Lebron. We know it's Luca's team.

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Speaker 4: But it's in that.

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Speaker 3: And then because I think in this subconscious he is

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Speaker 4: It's not like we're new to this. We saw what he.

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Speaker 4: His brain, that Pump faked well Lebro, well, I well, Lebron,

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Speaker 4: what would he? And he just gives it to Lebron,

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Speaker 4: and Lebron like you're wide open. And it was almost

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Speaker 3: Reverse Spider Man situation where like you you, because there's

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Speaker 4: You know, why didn't you shoot that?

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Speaker 3: You overthought that, and that Luca had a Lebron like

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Speaker 3: I overthought that moment, And a part of it, to

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Speaker 3: me is just a microcosm or an example of why

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Speaker 3: this just isn't gonna work. There's multiple reasons in that

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Speaker 3: both of you guys are ball dominant, both of the

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Speaker 3: can't give it to you like he used to at

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Speaker 3: And I just thought when I saw that, like, ah,

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Speaker 3: also saw confusion because well, at that game between the

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Speaker 3: three of them if you include Austin Reeves, they only

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Speaker 3: played twelve games together. Here we are the last twenty

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Speaker 3: You shoot, No, you get a better shot? Wait no,

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Speaker 3: because you could argue Austin Reeves is kind of better

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Speaker 3: And I bring it up to go back further than

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Speaker 3: that single shot Martin where they kept getting leads Swinton

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Speaker 3: Okay, so while Lee's out, is it Lebron's team? Okay, well, no,

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Speaker 3: it's Aufs the Reeings because he's got to carry the ball.

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Speaker 3: You can just tell they're out of sync. You can

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Speaker 3: they're never gonna have what you want. And it'd be

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Speaker 3: and I think you have to. If you're the Lakers,

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Speaker 3: We'll see what we got, knowing the full unadulterated Luca

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Speaker 3: experience begins the minute they lose in the playoffs coming

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Speaker 4: And a half or so.

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Speaker 3: So I think you're getting the full on adult trade

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Speaker 3: of Luca experience first off, when, especially when you see

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Speaker 3: the way he talks at the referees. Ye, dude, at

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Speaker 3: some point, it's okay to just get back. No man,

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Speaker 3: it's it's just okay. I'm dying on this hill. But

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Speaker 3: you know, if I if I go back on defense

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Speaker 3: and I have to run back there, it's a lot

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Speaker 3: easier to stand here and yell than it is for

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Speaker 3: me to run over the back there and try to

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Speaker 3: get in the way of somebody. Uh Luca dog. But

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Speaker 3: this is to me, this was always an arranged marriage,

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Speaker 3: and even if the Lakers knew that, because within seemingly

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Speaker 3: minutes of this trade happening in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 3: they then make the deal for Mark Williams that he's

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Speaker 3: eventually rescinded, right because they needed rim runners and all

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Speaker 3: of that. And he, you know, not for nothing. He's

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Speaker 3: playing the best ball of history.

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Speaker 4: Three.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to look up. He's tip dunkin block of shots.

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Speaker 3: But he's not wearing purple and gold. Sorry, Jackson Hayes's

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Speaker 3: So that'll work out, and DeAndre Ayton is going to

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Speaker 3: was to me. You said it's a lot of confusion.

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Speaker 3: The Lebron Luca thing, we tried, Hey, maybe we can

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Speaker 4: Off the floor. Luka, doncis is who I'm talking about? Right?

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Speaker 3: You said Prime Kawhi Leonard on defense? How about prime

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Speaker 4: Can you? How about file six times?

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Speaker 3: Just do that because that means you were close enough

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Speaker 3: Listen, he looked great, and he looks better than he has,

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Speaker 3: There was a point of game towards the end, lamping

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Speaker 3: talking about the Lakers. You saw the game last night.

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Speaker 3: You didn't see the game. You saw the last shot there,

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Speaker 3: Luca had an open look. To your point, Martin, we've

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Speaker 3: Any idea. I thought I was a little too far out.

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Speaker 11: No, just kidding Tim in the ie you're on the

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Speaker 13: Ub with the sub Nice to have you, Thanks man,

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Speaker 13: Anyways, Yeah, they just need to reboot this thing, and

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Speaker 13: And then Kyrie, you couldn't double off Luca because Kyrie

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Speaker 13: But the Lebron thing, the Lebron thing is rubbing off

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Speaker 13: he's passing it, making the right basketball play like everybody

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Speaker 13: well I thought it was a good shot by Luca.

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Speaker 4: I o'h know what happened.

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Speaker 13: No, you should have said, hey, he made the right

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Speaker 13: basketball play. That's what I used to do and get

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Speaker 13: credit for, even though it would make me lose finals.

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Speaker 11: Not to the point to Tim's point, that's why I

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Speaker 11: said this doesn't this doesn't pass my smell test, because

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Speaker 11: he could. That was such an that was forgive the

440
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Speaker 11: pun a layup for Lebron. I'm big at my whole career.

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Speaker 11: I don't y'all.

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Speaker 10: Killed me for that. I'm not going to kill him

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Speaker 10: for that.

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Speaker 11: Lebron gonna say, well, I thought you had a good shot.

445
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Speaker 11: Come on, I'm not about I don't buy that. I

446
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Speaker 11: wouldn't buy it a with your money, and the same

447
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Speaker 11: thing for me.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your call to him. My whole thing was too

449
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Speaker 3: I told Ron g this. I didn't this, Luca. This

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Speaker 3: is your team. You're the now sufficient to Storr. Luca's

451
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Speaker 3: supposed to fall in that grenade. I had a shot,

452
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Speaker 3: shouldn't take it. I know better. I make those shots.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm here to do. This is what I've

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Speaker 3: done my whole career. And that should have been that

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Speaker 3: to me because you are now the face, you're the guy,

456
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Speaker 3: You're the MVP candidate. That was supposed to be easy.

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Speaker 3: There's no way I don't take that shot. I honestly

458
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Speaker 3: have no idea what you see me. You've seen me

459
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Speaker 3: through my career. You guys have watched my whole career.

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Speaker 3: I've done that. That's what I do. I should have

461
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Speaker 3: took him, taken that shot. Don't know what I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: I put Lebron in an odd spot, and I'll be

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Speaker 3: better next time. That's all I want to hear from Luca.

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Speaker 3: If you're that guy, you're the franchise guy. That's the response, Martin.

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Speaker 3: You know it because now the buck, this ain't lebron

466
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Speaker 3: team anymore. This ain't don't tell me it's not Lebron's team.

467
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Speaker 3: And they wanted Lebron to be the superstar answer, this

468
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Speaker 3: is Luca's team. Luca falls on the grenade. Well he did,

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Speaker 3: in his defense, say this is on me as he

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Speaker 3: I wanted more emphatically. I want it to be like

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Speaker 3: you said when he's yelling at refs. That's what I

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Speaker 3: want to give me, that version of Luca.

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Speaker 10: Let's get to me.

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Speaker 11: Let's get Dion a minute, Let's get Dean in Texas

475
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Speaker 11: on the what's going on about.

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Speaker 12: Well fellows, Kelvin. I noticed the show, but darn it, man,

477
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Speaker 12: you just kept talking. That's exactly what I want to say, man,

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Speaker 12: Luca Lebron has done a fantastic job of getting the

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Speaker 12: heck out the way. He defers to Austin Reeves at

480
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Speaker 12: times a lot. Actually he defers to Luca all the time,

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Speaker 12: and if you're the leader of the team, I think

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Speaker 12: he's done a great job to getting the heck out

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Speaker 12: the way. And that play was drawn up for Luca.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what luca problem was, but he choked.

485
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Speaker 12: You only down by one, you don't even need to

486
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Speaker 12: heave up a darn three. You just need two. You

487
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 12: can get to the basket, you can get found. And

488
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Speaker 12: right now he moved a little bit better than Lebron.

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Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying because of the age thing here,

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Speaker 12: But man, I'm telling you that last caller, Man, I

491
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Speaker 12: think he's a little off. I think people have forgotten

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Speaker 12: how great Lebron was in his prime, when he was

493
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Speaker 12: Luca's age, when he was Austin Ree's age. It wasn't

494
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Speaker 12: I'm sitting out because I'm injured. It wasn't no, I

495
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Speaker 12: can't jump over whoever I wanted to and get Pat's

496
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Speaker 12: I mean, Lebron was freaking awesome and Luca, like your boy,

497
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Speaker 12: Ethm said a couple of days ago. Man, Hey, this

498
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Speaker 12: guy don't play on both sides of the ball man

499
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Speaker 12: like Kobe did, and like some of the other greats. Man,

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Speaker 12: he's a liability I'd hate his style of play. He

501
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Speaker 12: gets into everything too slow. And here he was like,

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Speaker 12: my man, Martin just said he's down on the court,

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Speaker 12: argue with the ruffle, can get a blow, right, guys.

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Speaker 12: He don'na put some lbs's back is Yeah, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 12: I love the show. And man, you guys are doing

506
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Speaker 12: just fine without Rob. We got a couple of good

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Speaker 12: replacements out there, no doubt.

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Speaker 10: Hey, je I man appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, Antonio Daniels, We'll ask him the same question,

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Speaker 3: talk about that with him in just a moment, right now,

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Speaker 3: what's up man?

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Speaker 14: What's up? Fellas? What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 10: What's up?

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Speaker 3: A d you know, hopefully you're well brother, you know,

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Speaker 3: we gotta get you it, Lebron, Luca, Luca not taking

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Speaker 3: a shot. You you saw it. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you had a tea, might have been covering a game

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Speaker 3: or not, but you had seen it. You've seen it.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that play? And more than

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Speaker 3: just this the fact that obviously he passed Lebron shot it,

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Speaker 3: what do you make it? More so what you heard

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Speaker 3: afterwards and the chemistry.

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Speaker 14: There man, Luca, Luca didn't take the shot, And do

533
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Speaker 14: you know what I what I what I figured out

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Speaker 14: with this whole Los Angeles Lakers soap opera when the

535
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Speaker 14: game is over. There's literally nothing Lebron could have said

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Speaker 14: that wasn't going viral.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's true, goodness, Lebron.

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Speaker 14: There was nothing that can because if he says, you

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Speaker 14: know the only thing that he probably could have said,

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Speaker 14: you know what, I missed the shot. You know what,

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Speaker 14: we move on. That's it. But what he said made sense,

542
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Speaker 14: like you know, what to play with for lucas I

543
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Speaker 14: thought he had the shot, he didn't, you know it

544
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Speaker 14: passed it to me. I wasn't no balance and he

545
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Speaker 14: basically just talked you through exactly what happened. But of course,

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Speaker 14: when you lose a game like that, fingers get pointed.

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Speaker 14: And but I mean, are we really surprised at the

548
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Speaker 14: lakers lack of chemistry? Are we surprised by this is

549
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Speaker 14: what you see from teams where the future is in question.

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Speaker 14: Who's Lebron's going to play with next year?

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Speaker 10: We don't know.

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Speaker 14: That's the issue. And when you look at a lot

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Speaker 14: of these teams that are successful and moving forward, it's

554
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Speaker 14: everybody financially taken care of, everybody's covered, and the fact

555
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Speaker 14: that no one knows, no one knows what Lebron's doing,

556
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Speaker 14: is no longer considered Lebron's team is now considered Lucas team.

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Speaker 14: So now moving forward, who knows what the Los Angeles

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Speaker 14: Lakers are going to look like? And I've always did

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Speaker 14: with the Lakers.

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Speaker 12: They have all the star power and talent in the world.

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Speaker 14: But anytime you put three guys on the floor that

562
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Speaker 14: have similar skill set that all needs the basketball, it's

563
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Speaker 14: a matter of time before that becomes an issue.

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Speaker 11: Antonio, I gotta ask you, because you have forgotten more

565
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Speaker 11: basketball than I'll ever know. But JJ Redding, to me,

566
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Speaker 11: prides himself on being too much more, too much of

567
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Speaker 11: an I know ball x'es and O's guy to draw

568
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Speaker 11: up a play in which they have a pick and roll,

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Speaker 11: like at the top left of the court, a guy

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Speaker 11: in a corner and then the inbounder just stepped inbound.

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Speaker 10: Like, I feel like Lebron didn't run.

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Speaker 11: The play and that's what was if you look at

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Speaker 11: it through that lens, all of the postgame commentary makes

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Speaker 11: a lot more sense to me, where Lebron, who doesn't

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Speaker 11: generally throw his teammates under the bus even when they

576
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Speaker 11: like he didn't even say like he didn't throw j R.

577
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Speaker 11: Smith under the bus, but he didn't call time out right,

578
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Speaker 11: he was like even when not doing that. So I'm

579
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Speaker 11: like he's saying Luca had a great look to me,

580
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Speaker 11: and then Lucas saying I saw he was open to me.

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Speaker 11: There's no more trade deadline, there's no fix to this,

582
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Speaker 11: Like there's no way that Like, there's nothing's gonna change.

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Speaker 10: Is this only gonna get worse from here?

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Speaker 14: Well, the thing that's not going to change is the

585
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Speaker 14: fact that their skill sets don't compliment each other. If

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Speaker 14: you look at look at the team that Luca went

587
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Speaker 14: to the NBA Finals with. Look at the team that

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Speaker 14: Lebron has went to the NBA Finals with but also

589
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Speaker 14: won the NBA Finals with. They were both the batman

590
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Speaker 14: and they were centered in the middle of guys that

591
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Speaker 14: didn't need the ball.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 4: You think about the j R.

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Speaker 14: Smiths, You think of the Mike Miller's, the Ray allens Uh,

595
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Speaker 14: the Kyle korvers Uh, the Birdman. All of these guys

596
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Speaker 14: were guys that were catching you catching finished And with

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Speaker 14: Luca it was the same. The one thing that they

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Speaker 14: have in comments. They both had Kyrie, right, you know,

599
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Speaker 14: and then Lebron had Dwayne Wade outside with Luca. Luca

600
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Speaker 14: was with Lively and gafferd Those guys don't need the ball.

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00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 14: Those guys were catching finished guys. But now when you

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Speaker 14: put them together along with Austin Reids, which one of

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Speaker 14: those three guys is better off bidden up in the

604
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Speaker 14: corner and being a knockdown shooter, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Wait no, And it reminds me YouTube could kind of

606
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Speaker 3: maybe fielm me on this a little bit of the

607
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Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns with Bradley Bill, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant. It's like,

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Speaker 3: all right, who can just switch and say who can

609
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Speaker 3: be Chris Bosh. Guys, you know what, Usually I'm twenty

610
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Speaker 3: five and ten. I'm gonna just be happy fifteen and

611
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Speaker 3: ten playing defense, blocking shots, getting you guys the ball.

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Speaker 10: Who can do that? And none of them can do that.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Antonio Daniels, our guest on

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Speaker 3: the odd Couple, Kevin Washington, Martin Wison for rob, let

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Speaker 3: me ask you this.

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Speaker 10: I look at this Luca.

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Speaker 3: I want to focus on him because the assumption is

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Speaker 3: Lebron is gonna be gone and we'll figure out what

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Speaker 3: they do with Austin Reids. But it's Luca's team for

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Speaker 3: the future. I know question can he put up thirty

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Speaker 3: to thirty five points? I don't question can he even

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Speaker 3: be an MVP candidate for the rest of his life?

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Speaker 3: The question is the style in which he plays, where

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Speaker 3: it's the Allen Iverson, it's the old Lebron back in

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Speaker 3: the day, it's the James Harden, it's the everything revolves

626
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Speaker 3: around me. Can you win with that in the current

627
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Speaker 3: NBA or did he miss his boat with that finals

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Speaker 3: appearance or maybe a couple of years even prior.

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Speaker 14: I think I don't want to say it's impossible to win,

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Speaker 14: but I know it's going to be very difficult. It

631
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Speaker 14: is going to be very difficult to win playing that

632
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Speaker 14: style of basketball, because there are two things to me

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Speaker 14: when I watched Luca play that stand out more than

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Speaker 14: anything else a lot of the time. One of them

635
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Speaker 14: is the complaining. I won't even get into that right now,

636
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 14: but it is a every play, it's a conversation with

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Speaker 14: the official, a twirl of the finger, you know, challenge

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Speaker 14: this arguing at the officials. And the other one is

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Speaker 14: the conditioning. I'm interested to see how this puts moving forward.

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Speaker 14: But I'm having the same questions about Luca today that

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Speaker 14: I had about James Harden back in the day when

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Speaker 14: he was in Houston. DP caliber one hunder one of

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Speaker 14: the best players in the league, one hundred percent, can

644
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Speaker 14: lead the league in scoring, can lead the league and assists,

645
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Speaker 14: can lead the league in free throw attempts. All they

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Speaker 14: both had that in common. Both of them stuffered on

647
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Speaker 14: the defensive side of the basketball, right that was the

648
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Speaker 14: big thing, And both of them had a difficult time

649
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Speaker 14: kind of making everybody around them feel involved if that's

650
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Speaker 14: not what they did best, like being a specialist, being

651
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Speaker 14: alporate or room runner or a smart up shooter. I'm

652
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Speaker 14: not saying it's impossible, but I will say it is very,

653
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Speaker 14: very difficult to win in the NBA playing that style

654
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Speaker 14: of basketball, with that type of usage.

655
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Speaker 11: Dam Antonio Daniels here on the odd couple of Martin

656
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 11: White steeling them for Rob Parker. Kelvin Washington's always here, Antonio.

657
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Speaker 11: I got to ask you your day job, Pelicans TV analyst. Now,

658
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Speaker 11: I was at the very first game for the New

659
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Speaker 11: Orleans Hornets.

660
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Speaker 10: I go way back here.

661
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Speaker 11: So I'm gonna be very upset next season when the

662
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Speaker 11: pe Tulkins he eventually trade Zion and he stars somewhere

663
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Speaker 11: else and they say, well, you know, pro athletes, they

664
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Speaker 11: just can't make it happen in New Orleans. I'm being

665
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Speaker 11: tongue in cheek, but he has played like twenty eight

666
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Speaker 11: or twenty nine games in a row, which is a

667
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Speaker 11: long streak.

668
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Speaker 10: In his career.

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Speaker 11: Thirty he's thirty three, thirty three, All right, hand up

670
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Speaker 11: my bad. Thirty three games in a row. What do

671
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Speaker 11: you think the future holds for the big fella?

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Speaker 14: I mean right now, I'm he's been fantastic. He has

673
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Speaker 14: a new personal trainer, Chris Crisp, who has got him together,

674
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Speaker 14: not just physically, but also mentally. And you know what

675
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 14: I've always said about this league, and people hate to

676
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 14: hear it, but it's not just this league. It's also

677
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Speaker 14: a part of life. Like growth isn't linear. It's not linear.

678
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Speaker 14: So the light comes on for different times at different

679
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Speaker 14: I mean different times for different guys who at the

680
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Speaker 14: course of their career everybody. The light doesn't come on

681
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Speaker 14: for everybody at the same time. Like you see a

682
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Speaker 14: guy that may come into the league and be in

683
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Speaker 14: the league five or six years and the light may

684
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Speaker 14: come on. All Okay, I get it. Okay, this is

685
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Speaker 14: what I have to do physically or this is what

686
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Speaker 14: I have to do mentally. Everybody can't come into this

687
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Speaker 14: league like Lebron Jameson hit the ground running. And I

688
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Speaker 14: know from this year Zion is in a fantastic place

689
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Speaker 14: physically and also mentally. And his new personal trainer, Chris

690
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Speaker 14: Christ has done a fantastic job at getting him together,

691
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Speaker 14: not just physically making him uncomfortable, because if there's one

692
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Speaker 14: thing that we know, you can't be comfortable and continue

693
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Speaker 14: to grow.

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Speaker 4: You have to have.

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Speaker 14: Somebody that is willing to pull you out of your

696
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Speaker 14: comfort zone and Chris. It's done a great job of

697
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Speaker 14: pulling Z out of the comfort zone, holding him accountable,

698
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Speaker 14: and now you're seeing that play itself out in between

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Speaker 14: the four lines.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: We'll leave it there, man, Ad appreciate you as always

702
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: good stuff. My brother have go ahead, Thank you all right,

703
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: Antonio Daniels, Hey Daniels, thirty three on X spend some

704
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Speaker 3: and why it's quiet is kat? I mean, I think

705
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Speaker 3: the last time I talked to you, you'd mentioned that

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Speaker 3: two ball zie whatever it was at the time, say

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Speaker 3: twenty games or whatever.

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Speaker 10: But thirty three. It's going to infuriate me when I

709
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Speaker 10: have to turn on the TV and I ball in.

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Speaker 11: Oh, well you know what nig I had to get

711
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Speaker 11: away from that gumball like shut up.

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Speaker 10: It was good though, but it's just like the idea that, oh,

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Speaker 10: you can't.

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Speaker 11: Do anything and when there or like Chris Paul was

715
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Speaker 11: balling there, like stop it right all right on the

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Speaker 11: way your tyreck player.

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Speaker 3: Other day, speaking of balling, sometimes you go to a

718
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Speaker 3: new home and you have a great game. That's what

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Speaker 3: somebody did. We'll tell you who we're talking about. It

720
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Speaker 3: is the odd couple. Kelvin Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: It's a new day. It's right Sometimes you gotta smile

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Speaker 3: through it all. It is The Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington,

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Speaker 3: Martin Wis And for Rob. On a worship Wednesday, Big shouts.

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Speaker 3: Antonio Daniels joined us a moment ago. Rob G will

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Speaker 3: get that up on the pod if you want to

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Speaker 3: check that out. It's always good to check out the podcast.

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Speaker 3: We'll have the best of version. We'll have a full

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Speaker 3: should be. Rober A good game for Jonathan Kaminga. Welcome

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Speaker 3: into the at L out there. You had Boosey cheering

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Speaker 3: for him, uh and his first game there and I

754
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Speaker 3: think it's twenty seven points for him and Martin. One

755
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Speaker 3: of the main conversations in media you already know how

756
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Speaker 3: this goes immediately goes to, well, Steve Kerr can't coach,

757
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Speaker 3: Steve Kerr is wrong, Steve Kerr was holding him up,

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Speaker 3: Steve Kerr had him locked him in jail, whatever. And

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Speaker 3: I will say this, I do think there's some true

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Speaker 3: to the idea I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: Manti do's the.

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Speaker 3: Media with the streets said, look at him, free free Kaminga.

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Speaker 3: Now you're out there averaging thirty. This is the street say.

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Speaker 3: My thing is this. I do think when you're in

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Speaker 3: when you're blessed with an opportunity. There's a handful of

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Speaker 3: teams that have gone through this. I'm gonna use a

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Speaker 3: couple examples. I think you'll feel me. So if you

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Speaker 3: look at the Warriors, essentially their whole ten year with

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Speaker 3: Kerr has been we're right around the chance either we

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Speaker 3: know we're going to be in the finals or we

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Speaker 3: should be at least in the postseason to see if

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Speaker 3: we can make a run for the most part, and

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Speaker 3: I think the challenge with that is when you've been

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Speaker 3: so locked in you want a bunch of rings, the

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Speaker 3: bulls you want with the Spurs. If you're him, and

776
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Speaker 3: now you've won with this team, you have time for

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Speaker 3: the growing pains that come with develop You don't have

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Speaker 3: time with some bad losses because I just had to

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Speaker 3: let him get that shot. It was a bad shot,

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Speaker 3: but he had to learn from this. You don't have

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Speaker 3: time for the extra development for this guy and this

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Speaker 3: guy you try, you try to do it, You try

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Speaker 3: to do it on fly, and I just don't think

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Speaker 3: that might not or that's also not your skill set.

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Speaker 3: Because every coach is different. Some guys are ex razo,

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Speaker 3: some guys are more of a philosophical like Phil Jackson, was,

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Speaker 3: and so I think with Steve Kerry, I just think

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Speaker 3: he was locked in where he wasn't able to fully develop.

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Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of their guys not develop the best,

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Speaker 3: and I just think from time to time that's what happens,

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Speaker 3: and some teams are so locked into their run.

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Speaker 10: I'll give you another example.

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Speaker 3: The Bad Boy Pistons went to three straight finals eighty

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Speaker 3: eighty nine to ninety, got back to the Eastern Commerce

795
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Speaker 3: Finals the next year before the Bulls knocked them off.

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Speaker 3: They didn't really have a plan of like, all right,

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Speaker 3: Zaya's getting a little older, Bill Amber is getting a

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Speaker 3: little what are we gonna do next. It was just

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Speaker 3: like we're gonna ep making run, keep making run, and

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Speaker 3: then it just fell off for seventy five, six seven years.

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Speaker 11: But that's to me how you should do it. If

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Speaker 11: you have Steph Curry, you should go for broke. You

803
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 11: should be going all in like you should be whatever

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Speaker 11: poker term you want to use, that's how you should

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00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 11: be doing it. Because there's only a handful of these

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Speaker 11: guys that can be the engine of the ferrari that

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Speaker 11: you need to win an that to winning that champions,

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Speaker 11: t win the NBA Finals, right, there's only a handful

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Speaker 11: of guys that can actually do that. And we have

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Speaker 11: seen Steph Curry can be the system in which you

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Speaker 11: win a championship with. And that's the thing. It's not

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Speaker 11: that Steve Kirk can't coach, and it's not that Jonathan

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Speaker 11: Gomga can't play. He just wasn't gonna ever work in

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Speaker 11: the Steph Curry system.

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 11: And and yeah, you're right, and comikas are there, and

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Speaker 11: I'll say I think there's the problem is there's way

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Speaker 11: more Jonathan Kamenas than there are than there are Steph Curries.

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Speaker 11: And that's why Jonathan Kamiica no longer is a Golden

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Speaker 11: State Warrior, right ultimately, but offensively he's a bucket. It's

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Speaker 11: just that doesn't quite matter when you have Steph Curry

822
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Speaker 11: because you don't.

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Speaker 10: You're not playing one on.

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Speaker 11: One basketball with Steph Curry's out there because he's the one.

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Speaker 3: And a couple of bad shots, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: A couple down, A couple of times down you took

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Speaker 3: bad shots or early shots. It hurts even more so

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Speaker 3: when we're wasting two shots to Steph Curry, when every

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Speaker 3: game matters at this point in his career. Every run matters,

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Speaker 3: every season matters. As he's winding down his career, you know,

831
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Speaker 3: as you're trying to get as many as you can,

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Speaker 3: but he might be able to get Listen, Atlanta, the

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00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 3: Hawks be flying here. They got a bunch of young

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Speaker 3: athletic talent down there, my goodness. So you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: that's what he needed, a little space, a little break

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Speaker 3: for him to be able to shine and the things.

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Speaker 11: That's the point you were making out. Everybody talked about

838
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Speaker 11: the Spurs and how they've been tanking or whatever.

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Speaker 10: They might have just been bad.

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Speaker 11: But like when you look at the Devin Vesselle and Castle, No,

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Speaker 11: not Castle because he's a little too old for what

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Speaker 11: I'm talking about. Kelton Johnson, thank you. These are guys

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Speaker 11: who were there when they were getting smoked, right, But

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Speaker 11: it's like, no, we're trying to learn how to play

845
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Speaker 11: the games. So then when they surround them with Victim

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Speaker 11: wenvigna is, Stephan Castle and Stefan Castle rather and Darren

847
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Speaker 11: Fox came kind of before Steph Castle, but still you

848
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Speaker 11: were surround them with guys who can play winning basketball.

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Speaker 10: The Julius Champennis of the world are in great shape.

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Speaker 11: Do you know what I'm saying because now I know why,

851
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 11: exactly what I'm supposed to be, what I was supposed

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Speaker 11: to be doing.

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Speaker 10: I've learned through these losses. That was big for them.

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: That was and speaking of the Spurs, that's a team

855
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: that was able to be winning and also developing, whether

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00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: it's Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and win some more rings

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Speaker 3: as well.