WEBVTT - Extra Frosting with Special Guest Host Kristin Kreuk 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.160 This is Frosted Tips with Lance Baths and I heart 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:13.880 reading a podcast. Hello and welcome to Frosted Tips. I 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.680 am Kristin Krook. I'm your guest host for today. I 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.200 have never hosted a podcast before, so this will be 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.760 interesting and please bear with me on this adventure. So, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:29.920 I have a new series coming out on Fox on 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.680 September twenty fourth called Murder in a Small Town. It's 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.760 you Know about. It's a murder mystery that follows a 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.199 detective as he moves from an urban police work environment 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.320 to solving crimes and a picturesque Pacific northwestern town. And 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.280 this town seems to attract an inordinate amount of murders 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.000 and at the center is a love story. And the 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.880 lead of this television series is the actor Rossif Sutherland, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:00.440 who I am interviewing today and you may not know him, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.560 but now you will get to know him. So, Hi, Hi, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.560 Nice to see you. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.520 Nice to see you. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:09.440 How's your day going? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:10.679 It's going just fine? 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.240 Great. Do you wanna do you want to tell people 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.200 about how you got into acting? 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.800 How I got into acting. I come from a family 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.000 of actors. My dad, his dad. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.600 Is Donald Sutherland. Just so they know, we might as 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.640 well just get it out of the way. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.479 My father, who recently passed away as Donald Sutherland. My mom, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.520 Francine Roussette, was a French Canadian actress who made a 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.840 career in France. My brother, Keifer is an actor. All 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.679 my other brothers, my sister, they're all in the industry. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.280 I had no ambition to be an actor as a 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.760 young man. I became an actor because I was studying 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.240 philosophy at Princeton. My ambition was to be a writer. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.559 And a friend of mine that approached me to direct 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.440 this short film which was going to be her senior thesis, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.600 And on the first day of shooting and I was directing. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.000 I had no experience directing whatsoever. I'm guessing it was 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.800 my last name that must have given her the impression 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.520 that I would know what I was doing, which I 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.640 did not. I'd been on sets as a child, but 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.919 that was the extent of it. And on my first 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.720 day of shooting, my lead actor was nowhere to be found. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.639 I don't think he thought very highly of the project. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.440 Probably didn't think very highly of this Sutherland kid who 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.880 was going to direct him. Yeah, what the hell. Indeed, 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.320 luckily i'd cast somebody who who was my height. So 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:49.200 after three hours of waiting, I put on his clothes 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:54.400 and I directed for the first time, acted for the 0:02:54.440 --> 0:03:02.000 first time, and after months of added and chopping these 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.760 pieces together, I showed it to my dad. I showed 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.160 it to him as a director, really forgetting that it 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.760 was my face on the screen because I chopped at 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.919 the bits. But my father watched it on his own. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.040 I didn't have the courage to watch it with him, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.160 and a half hour went by. The project was twelve 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.680 minutes long, so I figured he was just coming up 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.480 with things he could tell his son as to, you know, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.240 you should do something else with your life. But it 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:36.720 was quite the opposite. He'd watched it twice and he 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.440 called my name, Rossiff, and down I came, and he 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.600 had tears rolling down his cheeks, and he said, kid, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.520 that's what you're supposed to do. And I said, to 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.640 be a director. He said, well, well, who knows, but 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:54.040 you're supposed to be an actor. And I started training 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.680 out of curiosity because my father had seen something in 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.280 me that I didn't grow up seeing, and my father 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.960 was away for most of my childhood, so this notion 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.000 that I belonged in that world that that he was 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.800 in was so intriguing to me that that I studied 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:19.440 and and it has not been an easy journey by 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:26.800 any means, however privileged I may be. I've I've, you know, 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.840 I've I've worked here and there, mostly in Canada, mostly 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:36.880 doing independent films, and I've this wasn't necessarily love at 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.840 first sight, but I do. I'm madly in love with 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.560 my job now. I'm a bit like falling in love 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.240 with your neighbor. Somebody you see every day and then 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.840 one day she she's at that door, that door that 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.200 you see every day, and there she is with the groceries, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.320 and you think, my gosh, she's so much more beautiful 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.720 than I ever realized. That's my life. I fell in 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:01.640 love with my neighbor. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.279 So would you say that acting itself is something that 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.719 you love or is there something else about it that 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.720 has kept you invested for all of these years because 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.160 you've been doing it a long time. It's not an 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.000 easy profession. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.320 No, No, I've been doing it for I guess over 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:26.880 twenty years now. And the job for me, my first 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.120 job on a film set was as a boom operator. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.279 I was capturing sound and doing a very poor job 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.400 at it. I kept hitting the microphone against the ceiling, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.400 falling into frame. I didn't know about shadows on people's faces. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.200 I also didn't know that you had to learn the 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.839 actor's lines as you bounced the microphone around right and 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:53.520 left the whole you know, dance of it all. But 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.599 I loved being on set. I loved being part of 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.800 this circus of misfits. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.400 And really is that a circus of misfits? 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:09.120 And so acting became an opportunity to be part of 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.680 that set life. Not to diminish the job, I do 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:18.480 love the exploration of character. I studied with this gorgeous 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.640 coach in New York. He was the one who actually 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.520 made me want to pursue this professionally. His name was 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.520 Harold Guskin. He wrote a book called How to Stop Acting. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.280 And he was the one when I asked the question, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.760 when he asked me the question whether I wanted to 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.719 do this with my life or not, and I said 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.719 that I didn't particularly I want to be an actor 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.599 because actors pretended to be other people, and I wanted 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:49.200 to figure out who I was. And he corrected me 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:55.279 and said that acting, in fact was not pretending to 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.960 be other people, but it was permission to be all 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.720 the people that you could have been. And for this 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.320 kid who had studied philosophy at Princeton, who wanted to write, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.240 who wanted to explore those grand questions or the meaning 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.800 of life, and all the idea to put on other 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.360 people's clothes, clothes that I could have picked, and living 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.600 in a home that wasn't my home but could have 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.120 been my home, with parents that could have been my parents. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.840 But he taught me never that the job was never 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.360 to deny your own heart, that I was never going 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.600 to put my soul on check, that I could always 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.920 bring that to life, just in a different form, through 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.880 a different voice. And so that exploration was fascinating to me. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.600 And I guess just like just like being with a 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.000 with a lover who I won't go there anyway. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.800 It's like, where is this going to come? Of all 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.200 of the roles you've played in your life, what do 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.920 you feel like has been the most gratifying for you 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:07.920 as an actor? 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:15.760 Well, I've truly enjoyed working with you, Kristen Krook. I've 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.160 never been given an opportunity like this to be the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.040 I guess the lead of a show. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.160 Not I guess you are the lead of a show, right. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.680 I'm the leader of the show. Actually, I kept seeing 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:28.560 that number. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.880 Next time, number one, you are number one. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.520 Gosh, yeah, every day it was a panic. Number one. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.400 Really that's you. If only they could change it from 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:42.400 one day to the next. But but but yeah, I've listen. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.520 I've been doing this for a while. I've seen I've 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.120 seen the gorgeous behavior of a functional set where people 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:56.120 honor each other's ideas and and it's it's a bunch 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.719 of storytellers who will get to come with their own 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.439 ext with tease and bring something to life. I've also 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.640 seen it when everything you know seems to go wrong 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.840 because of egos and divas and and it was a 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:18.400 great honor to have a voice that actually was somewhat 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.800 listened to as we as we told our story. And 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.439 you were such an extraordinary partner. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.400 So thank you, thank you. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:33.079 You're wonderful done Little films too, And I've I've really 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.560 enjoyed working with young creators who are who are just 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:44.560 filled with passion, more passion than experience, but just have 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.840 a vision. And obviously hopefully everybody has. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.240 A vision, but not everybody has a vision. No, No, 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.719 absolutely not. Sometimes you work with people and they do not. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.840 But yes, it's wonderful to work on things with that 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.440 are really about you don't have the money and you 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.760 don't have the resources, and you just try and make 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.040 it work. And there's a lot of joy to be 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.280 found in those experiences and a lot of freedom. Yeah, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:30.839 within the constraints anyway. So this show, our show, Murder 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.840 in a Small Town is linked to your father in 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.040 some ways, which you didn't know when we started all this. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.439 I had no idea, and I. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.000 Wonder how it has been for you, kind of launching 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:48.600 this show and also grieving your father's passing and having 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.280 to kind of face that within the promotion of a 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.360 television series. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:11:00.000 My father passed away in late June, and the family 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.880 we've really kept to ourselves. I know there was a 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:09.840 bombardment of articles and honoring my father's career, and people 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.920 kept emailing them to me, And I don't know if 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.560 it was lack of courage or just that I would. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.520 I knew that I would do it at some later point, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.520 but I haven't read any of it. I've mourned my father, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.559 not so much the actor, but here I find myself 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:33.679 doing this TV show. I auditioned for this thing another detective, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.520 and i've you know, as my young son THEO would say, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.640 you know, that's what you do with that detective. But 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.080 here I am another detective and I wasn't you know. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.920 The text was was good. So I did it. I 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:53.240 did the audition, and then two weeks later, I got 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.440 this phone call that, you know, they wanted me for 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.719 the part, which was quite unusual because usually if anybody 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.079 is ever interested in casting me for anything, they make 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.839 me go through the ringer. I mean, I auditioned again 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.040 and again and again until they've really exhausted every other 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.679 possibility and then they maybe settle on me. Usually it's 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:15.680 the other guy, so. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.880 It's very optimistic outlook. Settle on me, I don't think. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:25.920 So, but they with seeming enthusiasm, they said he's our guy, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.959 and I was very you know, it was It's quite 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.640 quite empowering to feel like, you know, okay, well, these 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.280 people seem to know that they want me, and therefore 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:41.440 maybe I belong here. I described it to my father 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.040 because my father has been my champion ever since I 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.200 started in this industry, and I'm an actor very much 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:54.160 because of him, and he's been very involved, and we 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.560 you know, it's a subject. There was a subject of 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:02.200 constant conversation. I don't particularly like talking about work, nor acting, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.720 but I would do it with my dad, So I 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.920 explained it to him, and the project seemed all too 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.880 familiar to him. I had said, there was the Auburg Mysteries, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:20.199 and he said, I know these books, and I don't 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.120 know how involved he's been in the past years. It 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.560 seemed to be a surprise to him that this was 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.840 being turned into a TV show. But here I was 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.720 about to play a part in a show of which 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.920 the film was going to be made with my father. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:42.600 They were trying to do it thirty years ago. Listen. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:48.160 I haven't really processed it yet. This is, in many 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.440 ways the big break of my career, if there is 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.640 such a thing. And I've been an actor very much 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.600 because of my father, and now my father's gone and 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.080 I'm playing in a show that that he would have 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.520 been a part of. It's a All of it has 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:15.880 been serendipitous, a little surreal, very emotional. I've I've met 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.440 people on this project that I will have in my 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.720 life for the rest of my life. Regardless of the 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.240 future of this thing. Yes, I hope there is a 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.680 life for the show. I really do. I hope people 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.880 invite these characters into their lives because there's there's a 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.840 lot for us to do with them. You know. It 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:41.600 is a detective show, and in that that cozy way 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.520 I guess of a show like Colombo. Or it's not 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.680 a it's not a it's not a series of bloodsheds. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.920 It's not a it's not there to necessarily scare you, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.920 frighten you. It's more about the psychology, the motivation of people. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.600 It's a lot of people trying to make sense of 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.600 their lives, trying to find their purpose. But at the 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.920 center of it, which is the glue which fascinates me, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.160 are these two characters played by you and I, who 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:17.120 are lovers who've reached what they can hope is the 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.960 half way mark of their lives with the baggage of 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:28.440 their failings and their their hurt, their betrayals, and they 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:34.720 get to try and make the most of this gift, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:41.280 this true love, this passion for one another, and it's 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:48.360 full of full of fear and hesitation. But as mature 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:54.200 adults trying to define love and I think in their case, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.160 love is to give the other person wings. It's not 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.640 about two people becoming one, about two people being whole 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.520 for the first time. And I think that's a story 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:06.200 we're telling. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:11.200 Yes, I agree, So I mean we're talking about the show. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.160 Yeah, reluctantly you say. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.360 No, no, not reluctantly. Absolutely not. Was there I mean 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.880 this is a very classic question when we get asked 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.080 all the time, was there anything different for you in 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.440 preparation for this role? 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.440 I think this was the closest I've ever got to 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:34.040 play myself. People seem to have wanted to cast me 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.280 as a bad men bad men. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.680 Yeah, you're very scary, I know. Yeah. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.760 Yeah. I think it's the perversity of it, because I 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.920 don't think I'm scary. I mean, I'm tall, sure, but 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.160 other than that, you are tall. I'm tall. Yeah, So 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.720 I cast a long shadow. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.800 And you have a serious face. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.520 Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.640 It's a serious face. It's a lie, but it's a 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:04.360 serious face. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.080 Yes, it is a lie, isn't it. Yes, But yes, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:11.040 I guess my resting face is serious. I went to 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.200 a chest a school and Fred, there's there's no space 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.119 for the curl of the you know, the dimples and 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.880 all that stuff. Anyway, there are dimples, I just hide 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:20.520 them behind them. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.439 See the photos of Ross Child. Yes, the cutest face. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.840 It's still serious, well less serious, but yes, serious with. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.680 Your glasses, yeah my glasses. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:33.920 Serious guy. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.040 I uh, this was the closest I ever got to 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:44.080 play myself. The producer Jeff Wantell, we were speaking to 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.479 him the other day and we were talking about this 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.560 this press business that we're doing to try and launch 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:56.320 this show, and I mentioned the humanity of this character 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.320 and he said it wasn't necessarily on the page. And 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.960 I didn't realize that because to me it was so obvious. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.960 It was it was. It was there, blatant that this character, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:12.439 this detective who's not burdened by all these demons, but 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:17.480 instead of somebody who thinks outside of the box, who's 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.879 an observer, a listener, who does things his own way. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.439 He much is by the beat of his own drum. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:31.040 But he doesn't behave with intimidation. He doesn't behave with 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.800 the power of his gun or the flashing of his badge. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:40.720 He's somebody who confuses the people into revealing the truth 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:46.560 thanks to his humanity. And that that that part of 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:51.720 this character fascinated me and if I could bring that 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.639 to life, then I thought, you know, I realized that 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.080 we're not reinventing television here. But no, no, but there 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.840 is there is that that character hasn't been on TV 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.880 for a while. I don't think. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:09.760 No, And Jeff's right, I mean on the page, I mean, 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.240 every character on the page is quite flat. But you 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.719 you brought a lot of that humanity to the character. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.239 I think that that is in large part because of you. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.840 And then I think that you know, Ian also responded 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.320 to that, and they work together to. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.040 Be the writer. Lovely beautiful man. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.520 But I so you're saying that you didn't prepare, you 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:31.800 just channeled yourself. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:35.280 What a way to sum it up. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:42.359 That's what I answer that, you know, well, sometimes you 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.560 got a massage those things into the lines sometimes, and 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.000 and luckily and who you just mentioned. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:55.840 Was responsive to my instincts and my impu laugh. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.800 I'm laughing because nobody knows quite what this means. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.560 Responsive the word response. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.719 He was responsive. No, they know what responsive. 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.159 I know, But in my context, do you make no, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:06.680 I mean, in. 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:13.280 The context of the way that Rossif went about communicating, Yes, yes, 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:18.960 he has it's lovely. But he always had a lot 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.360 of notes and thoughts. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:21.600 I have ideas well. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.640 It's great, yeah, yeah, speaking of and. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.520 You know, it doesn't mean that I'm always right. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:27.000 No. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.400 Of course, having ideas, being passionate. 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.919 About something, caring about it, yes. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:37.160 But also having ideas means that that I he can 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:38.960 explain to me why I'm wrong. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.199 Yes, and he did not all the time, because you 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:43.280 were right a lot of the time. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:56.320 Right, yeah, yeah. Working with you was my preparation. They 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:02.480 they they kept speaking of chemistry and the and it's 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:08.080 it's true, there was. I've never had such an easy time. 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:09.360 Oh, it was a joy. 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.800 Working with somebody. Where As you say, sometimes words appear 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.879 flat on a page, but as soon as we'd start 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.320 to play. And I don't mean to say that acting 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.359 can sound like music, but there there was, there was 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.600 a there was a quality of jazz to it. Not 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.760 to flatter my acting as I'm flattering her. 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.560 No, I think we're talking about process though, we're talking 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.520 about experience, where being in the moment in the scene 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.760 was just a lot of fun and being able to 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.119 I mean that was and when we're talking about like preparation, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.320 I think there's a lot of work that actors can 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.879 do ahead of time, but so much happens on the 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.239 floor on the day, and I feel like that's that 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:54.000 is what occurred. 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.920 Yeah, you always have to be ready for Yeah, but 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:02.920 whatever feels right in that and hopefully you have enough 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.600 of a track record with the character and the people 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.560 that you're you're creating with that that there is a 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.919 there is a part of the equation that is instinct, 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.760 got gut. You can't just rely on it. I've seen 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.800 people who just rely on their gut and a lot 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.280 of time sitting on the toilet. 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.320 While we were talking about jazz and music, right, the 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:34.080 show is frosted tips, frosted tips yep, which in case 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.040 Rossif doesn't know because because he doesn't know anything, No, 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.200 he knows lots, but he doesn't do you know what frosted? 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:42.919 Do you know what they're in reference to. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.520 It's it's when the edge the tips of your hair 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:51.160 are a different color from the rest of Yes, very yes. 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.600 And we're talking about a period of time of like 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.400 boy bands and that kind of music where they were very. 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.359 Popular and they all had frosted tips. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.199 I don't know, but some of them did. I think 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:06.200 Lance did I was going to ask you what I see. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:10.520 Yeah, I sort of, I sort of have Well, it's 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:11.240 just great. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:19.760 Great, Yes, I think they've just become little yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:20.439 But I was going to. 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.720 Ask very sweetly told me this morning that ever since 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.200 she saw me last when we did finish this TV show, 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.000 that I've gone a little bit more. 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.720 Great, you've been through a bit, yes, yeah, you've had 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.960 You've had a few months. But I was going to 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.320 ask you a light question about music. Yeah, and what 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:40.879 you like to listen to. 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:42.399 What I like to listen to. 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.120 Now, well, you know, let's let's take you back. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.400 Okay, taking me back. 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:52.639 Let's take you back to the nineties, the nineties. 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:58.160 Well, the nineties. I was a little Canadian boy in France, yeap, 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.240 and I listened to a lot of the Seattle bands 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:07.840 I did, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I listened to a 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:09.480 lot of Eric Clampton too. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.080 Okay, what no, I'm just okay. 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.440 And I listened to a lot of jazz too, because 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.640 I had to study so much. It was the only 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.840 music that was kind of unpredictable enough that it would 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.760 keep me awake and there was no singing, so it 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:28.680 wouldn't distract me. From my studies. 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.520 You listened to jazz so that the variations and the 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:37.800 music would allow you to stay awake to study because 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:38.240 I had. 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.320 To study like three four hours every night. The French 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:42.360 are cruel in that way. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.880 Yes, the French have a very much to steal. 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.760 Your childhood away by hitting your head with school books. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:55.680 That was my childhood, okay, with that progressive sound of 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:59.199 the books hitting the top of my head. There was 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:05.280 a background jazz lovely. Yeah, and you make music, I do. 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:07.680 Oh wow, what a segue it was. 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:08.920 It was a segue. 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.119