Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show with Rubern Tomorrow
Speaker 1: Junior Jim Salisbury. I'm todd z a lucky It is Thursday,
Speaker 1: May ninth, twenty twenty four. The Phillies just snapped an
Speaker 1: eleven game home winning streak with a five to three
Speaker 1: loss to the Blue Jays on Wednesday. They left the
Speaker 1: tying run on second They had the tying run on
Speaker 1: second base with one out in the ninth A couple
Speaker 1: pop ups ended it. But the Phillies are twenty six
Speaker 1: and twelve. They still have the best record in baseball.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are. The Dodgers are hot now. They swept
Speaker 1: the Braves over the weekend. They pummeled the Marlins this week,
Speaker 1: and I think they're a half game back of the
Speaker 1: Phillies right now. And the Phillies have done most of
Speaker 1: this so far this season without a really super Bryce Harper.
Speaker 1: But we might be seeing signs of a hot Bryce Harper.
Speaker 1: Homer three consecutive games Sunday through Tuesday. Last four games,
Speaker 1: he's batting four hundred three home runs ten RBIs. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who never sees pitches in the strike zone.
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler was talking about it the other night saying,
Speaker 1: this guy, I think it's nothing to hit, and you know,
Speaker 1: a guy like him just wants to hit so badly,
Speaker 1: so his patience is really impressed. Zach Wheeler and then JT.
Speaker 1: Real Muto, I thought I had something interesting to say
Speaker 1: the other night in terms of Bryce getting things turned around.
Speaker 1: He said, you can tell in his takes how good
Speaker 1: he feels right now. I thought that was an interesting
Speaker 1: comment from JT. I And you know, maybe that has
Speaker 1: something to do with it.
Speaker 2: What is that? Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: The big deal for me was who was going to
Speaker 3: protect this guy in the lineup, like JT was was
Speaker 3: protecting him. Early they had him in the four hole
Speaker 3: and Alec Bohone got super super hot, and you could
Speaker 3: tell that at some point you just didn't know when
Speaker 3: Rob Thomas was going to make the move. He made
Speaker 3: the move, he slid him into the four hole to
Speaker 3: protect Bryce Harper, and I think from that point on,
Speaker 3: I think he started at they almost had to start
Speaker 3: pitching to the guy because if they didn't pitch to him,
Speaker 3: the next guy was going to pummel him. And I
Speaker 3: think the fact that I think there's a couple of
Speaker 3: factors here. I think he made a little minor adjustment
Speaker 3: with his swing. But additionally, and most importantly.
Speaker 2: He's got some protection.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a reason why Trey Turner was doing
Speaker 3: really well because he's got protection from Bryce Harper. Now,
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper's got a little protection from Alec Bohm because
Speaker 3: Alex is legit threat for a pitcher. And you start
Speaker 3: backing guys up and protecting them, then I think you're
Speaker 3: going to start to see more pitches, get better pitches,
Speaker 3: and have more success. I'd like to think that the
Speaker 3: fact that I said he's going to be the greatest
Speaker 3: you know, Philly of all time publicly, that that got
Speaker 3: him going.
Speaker 2: But that is not the truth.
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper's gonna be a great player regardless of who
Speaker 3: says what about him.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of it has to do
Speaker 2: with protection.
Speaker 5: Gym Yeah, and going nut comment that JT said that
Speaker 5: his takes are good. I actually put some stock in
Speaker 5: that as well, because you know, a lot of times
Speaker 5: we judge a hitter by the result or by a
Speaker 5: good swing. Sometimes just a good watch can tell you
Speaker 5: a lot about how he's picking up the ball, how
Speaker 5: he's seeing pitches, how he's seeing spin is he got
Speaker 5: a good feel for the strike zone at that moment
Speaker 5: in time. Uh, And it appears that he does because
Speaker 5: it's led to, you know, three great swings on two
Speaker 5: three run home runs and a grand Slam. So Bright
Speaker 5: we talked about it all along that you know, Bright
Speaker 5: hadn't even begun to fight yet. You know, it was
Speaker 5: kind of kind of you know, Mosy along getting his hits,
Speaker 5: but he hadn't gotten hot yet, and he's gotten hot,
Speaker 5: and no one is surprised. And you know, I often
Speaker 5: over the years, I like to talk to Larry Anderson
Speaker 5: about pitching, and he would tell me stories about when
Speaker 5: he was a young minor leaguer in the seventies that
Speaker 5: sometimes on the teams he was on, this is how
Speaker 5: baseball's changed a lot. Sometimes on the minor league teams
Speaker 5: he was on, there wasn't even a pitching coach. You'd
Speaker 5: have a rover come in once every two or three
Speaker 5: weeks and you'd throw a bullpen and he'd make an adjustment.
Speaker 5: And in the rest of the time, you know, you'd
Speaker 5: have to self evaluate and try things in the bullpen.
Speaker 5: You'd have to help yourself get better, and part of
Speaker 5: the process in helping yourself get better was talking to
Speaker 5: your teammates. They would notice things, you'd pick up things
Speaker 5: from them trial and error. Hey try this, see what
Speaker 5: you know you'd learn by speaking.
Speaker 2: With your peers.
Speaker 5: And I was kind of reminded of those conversations with
Speaker 5: Larry when I was reading something you wrote Todd this
Speaker 5: week about Bryce and about his swing and about his
Speaker 5: production that he kind of feels like this little hot
Speaker 5: streak could have been the result of a chat, a
Speaker 5: batting practice chat with Trey Turner. I found it fascinating.
Speaker 5: What did you learn from that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so after Bryce homered on Monday, you know, Bryce,
Speaker 1: everything he says, he says, you know, he knows what
Speaker 1: he's saying at all times, and he made a point
Speaker 1: to say, I'm doing a little bit better laying off
Speaker 1: pitches out of the zone, recognizing pitches in the zone,
Speaker 1: doing damage. But I did have this little chat with
Speaker 1: Trey the other day Sunday before I made that first hit,
Speaker 1: that first home run, and yeah, maybe it helped a
Speaker 1: little bit. And so that kind of stuck out to me.
Speaker 1: And it stuck out to me because Johann Rojas had
Speaker 1: a similar comment about Trey Turner a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago in Cincinnati, talked at length about this just great
Speaker 1: conversation I had with Trey Turner, and it meant so
Speaker 1: much to me that he would spend so much time
Speaker 1: with me, and that Trey was showing me videos of
Speaker 1: the of the players and himself to get me on track.
Speaker 1: I went up to Tray yesterday, I said, so, what's
Speaker 1: with all these players talking about you, uh and these
Speaker 1: conversations that you are having in the batting cage And
Speaker 1: he kind of laughed, he said, and he said this
Speaker 1: probably fifteen times. He said, listen, total luck, total luck.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with their turn around. He's like,
Speaker 1: but I did have some conversations with these guys over
Speaker 1: the past, you know, a few weeks, And the one
Speaker 1: he said he had with Bryce was Bryce felt he
Speaker 1: was getting frustrated because he felt he was coming, you know,
Speaker 1: not not able to get to the pitches that he
Speaker 1: wanted to hit in the strike zone and he couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out why. And so Trey actually went and watched
Speaker 1: some twenty twenty one video of Bryce, and because he says,
Speaker 1: Bryce love was that video of himself, obviously, because he
Speaker 1: won the MVP that year, so he started watching the
Speaker 1: video and then he started watching what Bryce is doing
Speaker 1: this year, and he said he noticed his hands were late,
Speaker 1: and Ruben, you could speak to that better than me,
Speaker 1: but I guess that just means either they got started
Speaker 1: later or they're late firing through the zone. And so
Speaker 1: he found himself missing some pitches and Tray said, I
Speaker 1: think maybe your hands are a little late, and Bryce
Speaker 1: said okay. And so it was funny because Tray says, now, listen,
Speaker 1: Bryce is such a natural hitter. That part of me
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, I hope he doesn't go out
Speaker 1: here and just sucked tonight because he gave him some advice.
Speaker 1: But so he said, the first at bat, if you
Speaker 1: remember on Sunday, he took had like three really good
Speaker 1: takes and then he hit a rocket up the middle.
Speaker 1: It wasn't out, but it was like one hundred nine
Speaker 1: miled hour ground ball up the middle. The next at
Speaker 1: bat he crushed a home run off of logan web
Speaker 1: and then Trey was like, wow, that that was it.
Speaker 1: And then interestingly enough, Trey had a similar another talk
Speaker 1: with Alec Bohm in Saint Louis in mid April early April,
Speaker 1: Boom was off the slow start, and Turner knows a
Speaker 1: couple of mechanical things where he was kind of sliding.
Speaker 1: I guess his front hip was sliding towards the mound
Speaker 1: instead of firing his you know, turning as he was swinging,
Speaker 1: and Alec Boone got hot. So I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on, but again, Trey, it was just funny because
Speaker 1: Trey did say, it's like a bunch. I'm just lucky
Speaker 1: right now. I'm on a crazy run right now. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get to I don't want to take
Speaker 1: any credit for this. It's a crazy run, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of that's that cool stuff that you hear inside
Speaker 1: the clubhouse that makes baseball fun.
Speaker 2: So this is the.
Speaker 3: Beauty of what this ball club does and why they're
Speaker 3: sort of special, and how they really care. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of ball clubs and there are a lot
Speaker 3: of players in this day and age who would not care,
Speaker 3: who would like, let just let the hitting coach do
Speaker 3: and of assisting hitding coach and the other assistant, let
Speaker 3: them do the work. These guys really care about each other,
Speaker 3: are watching and they're observing and they're helping. I got
Speaker 3: to tell you, I as a player in the minor leagues,
Speaker 3: I had a good friend named David Escer who worked
Speaker 3: on hitting. All the time. We talked about hitting. He's
Speaker 3: now the head coach at Stanford. I actually got sort
Speaker 3: of lucky that I got sent back to the A
Speaker 3: lower minor league level and Quad Cities to work with them,
Speaker 3: because all he did was observe every single one of
Speaker 3: my at bats, and after every at bat we talked
Speaker 3: and broke broke it down and it really really helped me.
Speaker 3: We did the same thing when I was in the
Speaker 3: big leagues with Kevin Jordan. Kevin Jordan was a benchmate
Speaker 3: of mine. We talked about are at bats, We threw
Speaker 3: BP to each other.
Speaker 2: We did it all the time because.
Speaker 3: Frankly, at that time, Hal McRae, who was the hitting coach, Frankly,
Speaker 3: he was working with Scott Rowland, he was working with
Speaker 3: Greg Jefferies, he was working with Regoe Brynan.
Speaker 6: He didn't give two craps about Ruben Tomorrow and Kevin
Speaker 6: Jordan because he wasn't making them the money, and so
Speaker 6: it was important for us to observe each other, what
Speaker 6: we did well, what we didn't do well. There wasn't
Speaker 6: the same video and there wasn't the same stuff that
Speaker 6: you could break down, but you could watch yourself and
Speaker 6: you give yourself a good picture.
Speaker 2: And you know, we would do that with each other.
Speaker 2: I mean I do it with friends on the golf course,
Speaker 2: now you know.
Speaker 6: And I do it with Paul holmger and stuff on
Speaker 6: the golf course and good and good friends I work
Speaker 6: with because you care about each other.
Speaker 2: And that's what the difference. That's like the big difference
Speaker 2: that you see.
Speaker 5: In this team.
Speaker 2: It's sort of an old school team.
Speaker 3: Where guys actually care about each other and want to
Speaker 3: help each other have success. And that's a really cool
Speaker 3: thing and a really cool piece of information that you
Speaker 3: wrote about, Todd, And it's something that you love about
Speaker 3: this team and why they really do care about playing
Speaker 3: with each other and why they seem to gel so well.
Speaker 5: And I also think it shows. I mean the disappointment
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty two losing in Game six of the
Speaker 5: World Series, the disappointment of twenty twenty three losing in
Speaker 5: Game seven of the CS, I mean, those disappointments still smart,
Speaker 5: and I think they still I think I'm sure they
Speaker 5: fuel this team and it's strived to end this season
Speaker 5: with something other than disappointment, end the season with a
Speaker 5: victorious feeling in a world series. So I don't think
Speaker 5: they care how they get it done, or where they
Speaker 5: get advice from, where they get tips from, where they
Speaker 5: find their success. They're all in it together, and if
Speaker 5: it leads to where they want to go, then it's
Speaker 5: going to be They're gonna be all ears and it's
Speaker 5: going to be worth it. I mean, and it's great that.
Speaker 5: I mean, Turner's going to have probably five more weeks
Speaker 5: to make these contributions. It just shows you go on
Speaker 5: the il, you're still a contributor.
Speaker 2: That's why I tht.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was so important for me that, like
Speaker 3: when Chase was down and hurt, I want to Chase
Speaker 3: to be in the dugout. I want to Chase to
Speaker 3: be around so we could help people, so we could
Speaker 3: observe and help. And I know he was trying to
Speaker 3: take care of himself, but that's why it was so
Speaker 3: important to have him around.
Speaker 2: You talk about the disappointment in two thousand and seven when.
Speaker 3: We got knocked out, Like immediately guys were like, man,
Speaker 3: that ain't happening again. I saw it happen in Boston
Speaker 3: when the year that we all got let go. We
Speaker 3: got to the playoffs two years in a row, got
Speaker 3: knocked out pretty quickly. We all got let go. I
Speaker 3: know that those players, the Mookie bets Is and the
Speaker 3: Ben Attendees of the World and the Jackie Bradley's and
Speaker 3: all those guys, you know, they wanted to get back
Speaker 3: to the World Series and win it. And that's you
Speaker 3: know that that's the kind of stuff that sort of
Speaker 3: fuels you. If you have a cohesive unit, some of
Speaker 3: those losses can really help, uh, you know, help propel
Speaker 3: you to the next level.
Speaker 1: Riberty mentioned Mookie Bets. That was another thing that Johan
Speaker 1: Rojas mentioned. He didn't he didn't mention it, but he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Trey took the time out of his day to like
Speaker 1: pull up all these videos and show me how his videos.
Speaker 1: And I asked, Tray, said, so, who were you showing them?
Speaker 1: He said, I was showing him a lot of Mookie Bets.
Speaker 1: He's like, I talk about Mookie Bets a lot because
Speaker 1: he is what is he He's under six foot right,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's five nine or five ten, and.
Speaker 2: He's about one hundred and sixty seven pounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hit thirty nine home runs last season,
Speaker 1: So he said, a guy like him, he does so
Speaker 1: many things, right, that's a guy I want to show
Speaker 1: to a guy like Johann Rojas.
Speaker 3: So obviously in the two years, I mean, he's one
Speaker 3: of my favorite all time players and one of my
Speaker 3: favorite all time people. But Mookie Bets, I used to
Speaker 3: marvel at watching him take batting practice because he could generate,
Speaker 3: because he had great hands. Man, he could generate bat
Speaker 3: speed as well as anybody great athlete, but you know,
Speaker 3: fast twitch muscles, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But his ability to.
Speaker 3: To throw the barrel head was as good as anybody's
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in that size, honest to god. I mean,
Speaker 3: Chase Something was phenomenal as well. He's a little bit taller,
Speaker 3: had a little bit more leverage, and had great, great hands.
Speaker 3: They're different types of hitters, but their hands were just incredible.
Speaker 2: Jose Al Tuve, who's five five or five six, great hands.
Speaker 3: I mean you talk about, you know, manipulating the barrel.
Speaker 3: These guys are special. And if Joann Rojas can concentrate,
Speaker 3: because he's got pretty good hands, he's got pretty good
Speaker 3: hand action.
Speaker 2: If he can do that and trust it, he's gonna
Speaker 2: become a better hitter.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just it's really great to hear that. I mean,
Speaker 5: Trey Turner is a great player, but to hear that
Speaker 5: his contributions are now transcending the field and impacting others.
Speaker 5: You know, that's gonna be music to the people who
Speaker 5: signed that big check. It's gonna be music to their ears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably probably not great music to Kevin Long
Speaker 3: because those guys, because they work every day with those guys.
Speaker 2: But really, I mean, this.
Speaker 5: Is I would I would say that maybe Rob Thompson
Speaker 5: and the coaching staff have created an environment, an inclusive
Speaker 5: environment where everybody feels comfortable speaking up. So I would doubt.
Speaker 5: I would doubt that's frowned upon. But it's an interesting point.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, no question. Well, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Kevin Long had been working so Johann Rojas's thing, I
Speaker 1: guess was that he was firing everything at the same time,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to break down his swing, start
Speaker 1: certain things at different times. And Kevin Long was talking
Speaker 1: about that in spring training and Trey Turner basically seemed
Speaker 1: to almost reiterate that same point. But maybe just hearing
Speaker 1: it from a teammate, which you guys talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: with the Larry Anderson stories and whatnot, maybe that just
Speaker 1: resonated more with Johan, you know, just hearing it, I.
Speaker 2: Will tell you that there's no more impact.
Speaker 3: I mean, with all due respect to all the coaches
Speaker 3: I've had, there's a lot of impact on your peers. Man,
Speaker 3: if your peer is is caring enough about you to
Speaker 3: make a comment, and hopefully it's not it's not a
Speaker 3: comment that is different from from what the coaching staff
Speaker 3: is giving you, but it's something to help maybe bring
Speaker 3: something to light that he was working on and to
Speaker 3: see it or or to verbalize it in a different
Speaker 3: way so that you accept it better.
Speaker 2: Then what the hell is the difference? As long as
Speaker 2: it gets it done right right.
Speaker 1: Bryson Stott played some shortstop. It was funny if you
Speaker 1: hours after we talked about Bryson Scott, when's he gonna
Speaker 1: play shortstop?
Speaker 2: He started at shortstop on Money Brethren Sooth Shop.
Speaker 1: So the question I'm wondering is, you know, when does
Speaker 1: he start getting in there a little bit more and
Speaker 1: he's he is heating up. Wit Mayfield is kind of
Speaker 1: heating up, you know, Wit Merrifield was last nine games
Speaker 1: batting three fifty five, a couple doubles, a couple of
Speaker 1: home runs. Bryson Stott in his last nine games, batting
Speaker 1: three seventy three doubles, two home runs. You know, Edmundo
Speaker 1: Sosa a good defensive player, good utility player. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: Stott's maybe is early. Well, I shouldn't say this weekend
Speaker 1: because they're going to face three lefties I think in Miami,
Speaker 1: but maybe next week he starts getting in there a
Speaker 1: little bit more at shortstop, giving with a little bit
Speaker 1: more play in right at base. That seems to be
Speaker 1: the way to go. That seems the way that way
Speaker 1: it's gonna end up going, isn't that.
Speaker 5: I think they're giving Sosa a little bit of a
Speaker 5: a little respect here, Yeah, but ultimately I think that's
Speaker 5: going to provide your best lineup. Now it's up to
Speaker 5: you know, it's up to especially Merryfield to hit stay
Speaker 5: in there. But I think that's gonna eventually over this
Speaker 5: five or six weeks span, get a lot of looks,
Speaker 5: but we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know Merrifield has played, I mean,
Speaker 3: just having watched him in a short period of time.
Speaker 3: He's played a pretty solid second base. Not a liability there.
Speaker 3: I mean he's that's the place that he has played
Speaker 3: the most at and I think he feels comfortable there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I gotta believe that Stotts could end up being pretty
Speaker 3: much the every day shortstop. And I think you're right, Jim.
Speaker 3: I think Rob Thomps has just given you know so
Speaker 3: so some love and given give him an up to Hey.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's let's face it. When Sosa gets in there,
Speaker 2: it gets opportunities to play. He always somehow makes an impact.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty beauty. It's a beautiful thing that
Speaker 2: the guy is off the bench.
Speaker 3: If actually, you know, continue to provide some such sort
Speaker 3: of impact every time they get a chance, just needs
Speaker 3: to be something small. Yeah, Code has been great, And
Speaker 3: that was one of the things I wanted to talk
Speaker 3: about too, is the Cody Clements And I think there
Speaker 3: was a comment that that that that that Topper made.
Speaker 3: I thought that was really spectacular for a bench player
Speaker 3: like myself, for the major league manager to tell to
Speaker 3: say publicly, hey, when when I got sent out, Hey,
Speaker 3: this guy is.
Speaker 2: A major league player. He should be a major league player.
Speaker 3: The numbers are working out such that he's not, but
Speaker 3: he's a major league player. When I hear that, as
Speaker 3: a player, you're going, Wow.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: And so when I get a chance to play and
Speaker 3: I get come back and he puts me in the
Speaker 3: lineup up, you know, you're feeling pretty damn good about
Speaker 3: yourself and you're and you and he's contributing, and so
Speaker 3: I think that hasn't I mean, that's that's just brilliant stuff.
Speaker 2: From Rob Thompson. Man.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how important that is to hear
Speaker 3: that as a twenty sixth or twenty seventh man, To
Speaker 3: hear that from your manager who is making out the
Speaker 3: lineup every day and then giving you an opportunity, that's
Speaker 3: great stuff. And it can translate into you know, into
Speaker 3: w's and it can translate into some production too.
Speaker 5: It's it's it just shows there's more to managing than
Speaker 5: you know, putting on a sign calling for uh, you know,
Speaker 5: an infield defense player making out a lineup. You're dealing
Speaker 5: with human beings and you have to manage personalities and
Speaker 5: part of that is building confidence, not bsing the guy,
Speaker 5: but there's ways to build confidence, and you know, sending
Speaker 5: a guy out the door saying, hey, it's a number
Speaker 5: scrunch or a big league player. That guy goes to
Speaker 5: Lehi thinking I'm the next man up when they need
Speaker 5: me and I'm gonna perform. It gives him. It gives
Speaker 5: him a little booster shot of adrenaline and feel good,
Speaker 5: and that stuff works. That stuff works on the mind,
Speaker 5: and the mind ends up leading the body in a
Speaker 5: lot of cases.
Speaker 1: You mentioned mentioning managing people, Jim, I mean Rob Thompson's
Speaker 1: got to manage this Spencer Turmble situation, you know, which
Speaker 1: is so tricky. The other night, Chris Sanchez comes out,
Speaker 1: he starts and before the game, Rob's like, we have
Speaker 1: we have a plan. We have a plan now. A
Speaker 1: couple of nights earlier, I asked, and I think we
Speaker 1: talked about this on the last episode when Taiwan Walker
Speaker 1: went out and pitched. It was starting the seventh inning.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you have pitched Turnbull the
Speaker 1: final two? He's like, no, we when Turnbull comes out
Speaker 1: and pitches, we got to give him three innings. We
Speaker 1: need him to get three innings to keep them stretched out.
Speaker 2: Well, then I.
Speaker 1: Figured for sure turn Berle is gonna come out and
Speaker 1: pitch three innings the other night when Sanchez starts, but
Speaker 1: then sanchez pitch is so good that, uh Turnble only
Speaker 1: gets the final too. So you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be. You know, it's a great problem
Speaker 1: to have, like we've said, but I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so interesting to see how they keep him stretched out.
Speaker 1: Now Rob has already said, listen, the good news is
Speaker 1: that we can bring Turmble back earlier than we want,
Speaker 1: but that probably if he comes back earlier than we
Speaker 1: want or then you know, in the next few days,
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna be able to follow up Sanchez again.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we have to give him
Speaker 1: a long look within the next seven to ten days
Speaker 1: or ten to fourteen days to make to keep him
Speaker 1: stretched out. Otherwise he's not gonna be stretched out anymore. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Rob's got to kind of manage that as well, because
Speaker 1: Turble clearly wants to start. I mean, he clearly wants
Speaker 1: to start.
Speaker 2: You make plans in baseball and God smiles, brother.
Speaker 3: I mean, Sanchez comes out and just deals and you know,
Speaker 3: you got to win baseball games, and you got to
Speaker 3: just let him go because he's a fishing. He's pitching well,
Speaker 3: and he's throwing one inner or whatever, giving up one run,
Speaker 3: whatever the heck he was doing. Hey, sometimes you got
Speaker 3: to make adjustments on your plan. I thought for sure,
Speaker 3: after the seventh inning or after the sixth inning, he
Speaker 3: was going to bring a Turnbull in.
Speaker 6: He has a good inning, he throws it back out
Speaker 6: there like holy smokes, and you think that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I think it's great.
Speaker 6: Man, he was dealing.
Speaker 2: I gotta win this baseball game. Let him pitch. He's
Speaker 2: stilling a shutout or whatever.
Speaker 5: Do you think Turnbull might not have been ready because
Speaker 5: as a starter he required a little more time. Maybe
Speaker 5: I want to I don't know. Maybe he called on
Speaker 5: and said I'm not ready.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he started getting I think he started
Speaker 1: warming up. But even before the six he started getting loose.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 5: Was out there early.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Right, you're out there twenty five minutes early.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He says it's gonna take time to get used
Speaker 1: to it. He says he's not quite used to it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there's only something he's only Yeah, he's only done it
Speaker 1: once the entire life.
Speaker 5: Something, something will present itself.
Speaker 2: Sure, no doubt he'll know that he'll get it. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be a rain delay or a range, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I know they're going to Miami and or laying in
Speaker 3: the dome or whatever. But somebody's gonna blow up with somebody.
Speaker 3: Something's gonna happen where he's gonna get an opportunity in
Speaker 3: the next ten days to pitch.
Speaker 2: Good problem, good, great problem. You kidding me. I would
Speaker 2: have died for those problems.
Speaker 1: Going down, going down to Miami. Nick Castillas is from Miami.
Speaker 1: I remember last year he uh, he was terrible in July,
Speaker 1: terrible in July, and then they opened uh. I think
Speaker 1: they had like a three game series in early August,
Speaker 1: and he went home the night before. He said he
Speaker 1: hit in the cage till about one thirty in the
Speaker 1: morning with his brother and one of his buddies, and
Speaker 1: he went back on a terror in August. So Castianos
Speaker 1: Is had in last eight games, Nick Castillos betting three
Speaker 1: thirty three, three doubles, one home run, nine to eight
Speaker 1: ops all, there's only four extra base hits of the
Speaker 1: entire season of coming to last eight games. So now
Speaker 1: he gets to go home, see his wife, see his kids,
Speaker 1: maybe he gets going against a terrible, terrible Marlins team.
Speaker 2: Terrible funny.
Speaker 5: When we last saw the Marlins, it was here in October.
Speaker 5: They had just earned their first playoff birth in a
Speaker 5: full one and sixty two game season since two thousand
Speaker 5: and three. To put that in perspective, Jack McKeon was
Speaker 5: managing them, and Miguel Cabert was a rookie, so Philly
Speaker 5: swept him out quick, and I thought kim Ming did
Speaker 5: a really great job kind of getting him moving in
Speaker 5: the right direction, got him in the postseason. Sounds like
Speaker 5: she wanted to continue to do a little more moving,
Speaker 5: and ownership said no, no, no, no, no, not open
Speaker 5: to the wallet. She was moved on from after doing
Speaker 5: really great work, and they didn't sign George Soler. It
Speaker 5: didn't even try. Now they've traded Luis right and a
Speaker 5: two time batting champ, and obviously winning is not even
Speaker 5: on their radar. It's not a priority. So that's sad,
Speaker 5: sad situation. They're gonna be in the long rebuild and uh.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, the Phillies have to go there and they
Speaker 5: have two challenges. One is the environment. It's very lifeless
Speaker 5: down there, especially coming out coming out of Citizens Bank Park,
Speaker 5: where it's you know, thirty eight to forty three thousand
Speaker 5: people every night, the four hours of Hell cliche or
Speaker 5: whatever saying going down there, it's you know, four hours
Speaker 5: at the library. So you gotta you gotta bring some energy.
Speaker 5: You gotta conquer that challenge. And you've got to remember
Speaker 5: that there's kids over there trying to prove themselves as
Speaker 5: a big leaguer and you don't want them to have
Speaker 5: their three best days as a big leaguer against you.
Speaker 5: So to win this division, you know, last year the
Speaker 5: Braves i think went nine to four against Miami pretty good. Right,
Speaker 5: If you want to win this division, you gotta clean up,
Speaker 5: clean up on Miami. What while they're not really trying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's just let's let's let's look at this.
Speaker 4: They're gonna throw three left handers at him. Right, some
Speaker 4: of their best hitters in this lineup for the Phillies,
Speaker 4: left handers, Shoreber, Harper, marsh Stop. Those are four very
Speaker 4: very good bats from the left side that maybe neutralized
Speaker 4: a little bit by the left handers.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's a real issue. So the other
Speaker 2: you know, the other boys.
Speaker 3: Are gonna have to step up and uh and provide
Speaker 3: a little thump in that lineup. The guys from the
Speaker 3: right side, particularly Cassianos. I know he loves home cooking
Speaker 3: and I know he loves being at all. That's big
Speaker 3: for him. But you know, it's you have to be
Speaker 3: able to motivate yourself in these situations. I know they're
Speaker 3: coming off having lost. I think in some ways that
Speaker 3: one loss was sort of a good thing because I
Speaker 3: think that they'll be hungry to get bounced back and
Speaker 3: get another winning street going. It was a game they
Speaker 3: probably could have won and didn't. They had opportunities at
Speaker 3: least to win. But hopefully that their mindset is where
Speaker 3: it needs to be so that they can play good,
Speaker 3: solid baseball down in Miami, down in the South Florida.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: Jim has a story on the All City Network all
Speaker 1: pH l y dot com about that. You can read Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I Love Jim. Jimmy had a great story last week
Speaker 1: on Alec Bohm and and the I Love this Place
Speaker 1: t shirt and just embracing that moment. That's you know,
Speaker 1: it's good to have Jimmy writing bass.
Speaker 5: He's right right, So go to Miami. We've all spent
Speaker 5: a lot of time in two ballparks down there. But
Speaker 5: I'm gonna guess maybe like the high life for maybe
Speaker 5: all three of us in Miami. What I wasn't there.
Speaker 5: I was there.
Speaker 2: I was for the for the perfect game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Perfect Game was amazing.
Speaker 3: That moment was so spectacular for me because I was
Speaker 3: right there with my brother watching it. And I was
Speaker 3: with my brother Ruben, my half brother brother from another mother,
Speaker 3: and uh and younger brother and he. We sat there
Speaker 3: for like the last five innings and in the scouts
Speaker 3: box right behind whole plate, watching Doc go to work, and.
Speaker 2: I swear to you, we could not he talks more
Speaker 2: than I do.
Speaker 3: And the dude did not say a word from the
Speaker 3: from like the fifth or sixth inning on. It was
Speaker 3: pretty funny, pretty cool, and it was an unbelievable moment
Speaker 3: when he made that when Castro made that one play
Speaker 3: in the hole, like a really tough play like it.
Speaker 2: In between hopspun and I'm like, oh my god, please
Speaker 2: make this play and he did.
Speaker 3: I swear to you, I was in tears with my brother,
Speaker 3: hugging him high five and I'm loving on him.
Speaker 2: It was a spectacular moment.
Speaker 5: So I kept sneaking into the back, one to get
Speaker 5: ice cream.
Speaker 2: Shock, I remember that, and two to get a burger.
Speaker 5: One to get ice cream, and two to watch the Flyers.
Speaker 5: They were playing the black Hawks in the final, so
Speaker 5: I kept going to the back to watch the hockey
Speaker 5: game and get a little ice cream. And uh, you know,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, no twenty minutes of going by,
Speaker 5: and it's already the fifth inning, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: I gotta get my game face on and some things
Speaker 5: happening here. So I you know, I get out on
Speaker 5: my keyboard and start hacking a little bit. But uh,
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it was so surreal, and Joe
Speaker 5: Biden called him after the game, and I just remember
Speaker 5: the clubhouse. Everybody was so pumped, and and you know
Speaker 5: the fact that it was like his tenth or eleventh
Speaker 5: start with the Phillies, like it seemed like he had
Speaker 5: just gotten there and then he does this truly amazing.
Speaker 5: It was. But you know, I've covered two world series
Speaker 5: down there, a lot of really memorable moments, but that
Speaker 5: certainly every time I go there, I think.
Speaker 7: Of that, and so so two moments really stick out,
Speaker 7: like what you know, it was pretty obviously he was
Speaker 7: sort of my white whale when I got my job.
Speaker 2: As a GM and went to day Montgomery's.
Speaker 8: And I really would love, love, love if I ever
Speaker 8: got a chance to get a player that'd be the guy,
Speaker 8: because I've been watching.
Speaker 2: Him beat us up in spring training for the.
Speaker 8: Like the last ten thousand years, and acquiring him and
Speaker 8: watching him perform, and seeing what he did in his
Speaker 8: very first game as a professional in a playoff.
Speaker 2: Game, to throw a no hitter ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Throwing a perfect game also ridiculous, and it just made
Speaker 7: all those efforts to bring him to Philadelphia just so
Speaker 7: worth it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I just I think back on those moments man with.
Speaker 7: Great, great pride and a full heart, man, because he
Speaker 7: was unfreaking believable.
Speaker 2: So good man.
Speaker 5: So you weren't there that night, but you did a
Speaker 5: pretty darn good job chronicling it all in the shoulder.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that I mean that was Wait.
Speaker 2: Wait that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 5: There we go, there you go. I mean that was.
Speaker 1: I mean that that game, just talking all those players
Speaker 1: getting other recollections of it, you know, it was just amazing,
Speaker 1: you know, talking. I remember Jason Worth and talking to
Speaker 1: him about what he remembers of that and all those guys,
Speaker 1: you know Wan Castro reliving that play. That's a play
Speaker 1: I made a thousand times as a kid, you know.
Speaker 1: Then you know, through the minor leagues. I just practiced
Speaker 1: that play over and over and over and actually have
Speaker 1: it happened in that moment.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. So yeah, no, I wasn't there that night.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest with you, guys. I was
Speaker 1: at home at my old house in Rocksboro and the
Speaker 1: Flyers were on upstairs, and I was watching downstairs, and
Speaker 1: I was I was like borderline nausea, sick to my
Speaker 1: stomach because I because I'm going like, listen, I probably
Speaker 1: will never have the opportunity. I covered the Phillies. This
Speaker 1: is my job, and I am going to miss. I
Speaker 1: think it was at the twentieth perfect game in baseball
Speaker 1: history or nineteenth twentieth at the time. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: going I will probably never see this. And I am here,
Speaker 1: I'm here in my basement in Rocksboro. Well, roy Hell,
Speaker 1: it is making history.
Speaker 2: But it was. It was cool. It was cool. Good.
Speaker 1: So So Friday, We've got Ranger Suarez versus Trevor Rodgers
Speaker 1: on Saturday, it's Taiwan Walker, his use Loszardo is going
Speaker 1: to come back from the IL. And then on Sunday
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Zach Wheeler versus Braxton Garrett. So we
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