WEBVTT - Flamingo Fact or Fiction?

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Rich Schwartz, but don't see this world.

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<v Speaker 3>which oversees the San Diego Zoo and this beautiful place,

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<v Speaker 3>the San Diego Zoom Safari Park.

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<v Speaker 2>M M.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my hornbill here. Yeah, yeah, but you brought

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<v Speaker 1>it right to us. I really did you know? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we are at the beautiful Safari park right. Not only that, my.

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<v Speaker 4>Friend, we have birds behind us, a beautiful species of flamingo.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah's great.

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<v Speaker 3>And if our listeners want to see where we are,

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<v Speaker 3>coming up pretty soon on YouTube, we'll be doing this

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<v Speaker 3>visual podcast. It's being filmed right now, so if you're

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<v Speaker 3>watching it, Soda, you can see us. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>listen only you might want to check it out. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course we'll let people yeacial media whe it's available.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, tons of things going on to so Amanda, we're

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<v Speaker 4>in the habitat, so don't step on any flamingo poop.

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<v Speaker 1>Point about it does wash off.

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<v Speaker 4>It does right, Yeah, but I'm excited. I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 4>the visual component. But also, friend, we have something that's

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<v Speaker 4>happening at the Safari Park now called Wildlife Awareness DAGE,

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<v Speaker 4>so certain species throughout the year that our wildlife care

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<v Speaker 4>staff are going to help promote support in different kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>What one would we want to talk about? What wildlife?

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder, Well, we're looking at these beautiful flamingos behind us,

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<v Speaker 4>right and it happens to be signor International Flamingo Day

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<v Speaker 4>on the twenty sixth of April, that's a Saturday, and

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<v Speaker 4>this episode is going to air right before, so we thought,

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<v Speaker 4>why not top flamingos.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, diming, Now, do we have a flamingo line up

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<v Speaker 3>we can talk with?

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<v Speaker 4>Not a flaming We got a few behind us right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but we have someone very special I think flamingos specialists

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<v Speaker 4>that we're going to talk to you today.

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<v Speaker 5>Very good morning, good morning, almost as good and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh so excited to be here, and especially in

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<v Speaker 4>this wonderful habitat.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this area of the Safari Park.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and our guests they can see these greater flamingos, Right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a species are highlighting if they ride the

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<v Speaker 4>African tram, which is included in everyone's sect, which I

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely love about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot to talk about about flamingos.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Sometimes I think like not everyone knows what a

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<v Speaker 4>flamingo is, which I know sounds really funny, Aaron, But

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<v Speaker 4>see the person who maybe there's someone in the world

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<v Speaker 4>they've never even heard of a flamingo, which I know

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<v Speaker 4>is very shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, wait, the other part of it too, might be

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<v Speaker 3>the only interaction you've ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>The flamingo is a plastic one on someone's long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is not accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, tell us what's a flamingo.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the plastic ones are, They're pretty close. Depends on

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<v Speaker 5>the type of flamingo you're thinking of. So the ones

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<v Speaker 5>that you would normally see as a lawn ornament.

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<v Speaker 6>Are very very bright pink.

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<v Speaker 5>But the flamingos that we're looking at just behind us

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<v Speaker 5>are greater flamingos, and they're.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot lighter in color and much bigger than a

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<v Speaker 6>lawn ornament.

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<v Speaker 5>So flamingos are long legged, very tall, often pink birds

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<v Speaker 5>some shade of pink and the greater flamingos that we're

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<v Speaker 5>looking at behind us are actually the largest species.

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<v Speaker 6>Of flamingo in the world. The greater they are the greatest.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of different species.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned the species here, but you also mentioned that

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<v Speaker 3>the lawn armed ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Are very pink.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and there are some species that are very pink,

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<v Speaker 3>But ours behind us right now aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that.

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<v Speaker 6>Not quite as pink?

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a question that actually does come up

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<v Speaker 5>quite a bit for our guests that do see the

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<v Speaker 5>species of flamingo as they're riding our tram. All flamingos,

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<v Speaker 5>depending on the species, they metabolize the food that they're

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<v Speaker 5>eating a little bit differently, and that is what determines

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<v Speaker 5>the pigment and the pink in their feathers. So an

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<v Speaker 5>interesting fact is there are six different species of flamingos. Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>You can see a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>Of them here at the Safari Park and also at

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<v Speaker 5>the San Diego Zoo, all different, but all fed the

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<v Speaker 5>exact same diet, so they get fed the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you see the Caribbean flamingos of the San

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<v Speaker 5>Diego Zoo, they're much pink er. The very very pink,

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<v Speaker 5>and those are the ones that I think the laments

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<v Speaker 5>are at ornament, but they get fed the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So it just depends on the species of flamingo, where

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<v Speaker 5>they're found, where they live naturally, and how they metabolize

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<v Speaker 5>the food.

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<v Speaker 1>That they eat.

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<v Speaker 3>And some people will say that it is shrimp that

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<v Speaker 3>makes them pink, but that might condrupt the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>shrimp we would get at a restaurant shrimp cocktail.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not eating shrimp cocktail, shrimp Mark Brian shrimp, so

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<v Speaker 5>really small microscopic organisms and also algae, which is also

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<v Speaker 5>something that the shrimp are feeding on. So really, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to get super technical, the flamingos are turning

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<v Speaker 5>pink because of the algae that they're eating.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. And I also like you mentioned a few

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<v Speaker 1>species already.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, one of my favorite from lingo facts is

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<v Speaker 4>they look like a delicate animal, but they live in

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<v Speaker 4>some of these hard, sometimes even caustic kind of environments

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<v Speaker 4>depending on the species. Maybe a lot of salt in

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<v Speaker 4>the water make it very difficult for other animals to survive.

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<v Speaker 4>And we mentioned a few, but maybe we should highlight

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<v Speaker 4>all all those six right, six species of flamingo.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we said, let's say I'm gonna try this.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we said the Andean flamingo, right, we said the

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<v Speaker 4>James or the Puna flamingo more locally known, right, the

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<v Speaker 4>Chilean flamingo. Well, you mentioned the Carribean flamingo, which in

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<v Speaker 4>the States you could see maybe in the Gulf of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>We have the lesser flamingo in Africa, and the one

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<v Speaker 4>behind us is the greater flamingo. All right, but all

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<v Speaker 4>unique in their own ecosystem, right, but the same kind

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<v Speaker 4>of adaptations, right for the way they eat. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the color of the feathers, but that beak is really

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<v Speaker 4>unique too.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk a little about the flamingo beak?

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of the beak and how they eat, some

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<v Speaker 3>people mention to notice that it looks like their beak is bent,

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<v Speaker 3>not hooked like an eagle or an owls beak, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's got sort of this weird bend to it. And

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<v Speaker 3>also the upper part of the beak is thinner than the.

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<v Speaker 6>Lower part, where we usually think upside down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, helpe explain why that adaptation.

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<v Speaker 5>Exists because of the food that they eat, so they're

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<v Speaker 5>actually filter feeders. So when the mingos are feeding, and

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<v Speaker 5>we may get no, they're all sleeping, so bring.

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<v Speaker 6>Our voices down there.

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<v Speaker 5>But if they are awake and they're feeding, their heads

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<v Speaker 5>are upside down really, so they're going to filter through

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<v Speaker 5>the water to eat those really small organisms. And as

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<v Speaker 5>they're taking in all of that water, they're actually squeezing

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<v Speaker 5>the water out the sides, so the sides of their

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<v Speaker 5>beaks are they look serrated like they're filtered on the side,

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<v Speaker 5>so they're squeezing the water out and then just taking

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<v Speaker 5>in the food that they're consuming.

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<v Speaker 4>For kids that are listening, kind of reminds of like

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<v Speaker 4>balen whales, right, yeah, back pushing all this fluid ocean

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<v Speaker 4>water for them, you know, and capturing all those little

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<v Speaker 4>microbes as a little yummy little items for them to

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<v Speaker 4>survive out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you'll actually see them out there.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like they're dancing because they'll move their feet

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<v Speaker 5>back and forth really really fast too to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>stir up all that good stuff. And then you'll see

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<v Speaker 5>them filtering through the water.

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<v Speaker 2>And that actually kind of steps us into my next question.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice their feet stepping up and down. Often I will

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<v Speaker 3>hear people when they look at from and gooes they wonder,

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<v Speaker 3>why is their knee bending backwards? Because from the visual

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<v Speaker 3>the foot is down flat, and then you have a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the leg coming up and the joint moves

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<v Speaker 3>equivalently backwards to a knee that we're used to seeing, correct,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the leg goes up into the body. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's it as far as we can visually see on

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<v Speaker 3>the outside. But anatomically, that's not actually their knee, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Their knee, it's their ankle, their ankle, it's their ankles.

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<v Speaker 5>So their knees actually located a little bit higher up,

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<v Speaker 5>which does bend the quote unquote correct way. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>that joint is actually their ankle joint. So when they

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<v Speaker 5>are standing and often on one leg, Yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them are sleeping out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, explain that, you know, because that's that's here, right,

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<v Speaker 4>the locking like that what is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that joint actually kind of really kind of locks

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<v Speaker 5>into place when they're sleeping, so they're not tipping over.

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<v Speaker 4>They look pretty sturdy right now. I gotta say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And often people do ask quite a bit why

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<v Speaker 5>they stand on one leg, and there's a few ideas

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<v Speaker 5>or theories, but really it's primary comfort and we do

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<v Speaker 5>it too. You don't really notice it unless you point

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<v Speaker 5>it out, but if you're ever standing somewhere for long

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<v Speaker 5>periods of time, you tend to kind of like lean

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<v Speaker 5>on one leg and take a pressure off one leg. Ye,

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<v Speaker 5>And that's really what they're doing. So for comfort, they'll

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<v Speaker 5>pull a leg up, and then they also use it

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes regulate their body temperature, so you'll see them kind

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<v Speaker 5>of alternating those legs. So these guys are found in

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<v Speaker 5>very warm weather, but the andy and Flamingos are found

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<v Speaker 5>in very very cold weather, so they will pull one

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<v Speaker 5>leg up and they can keep it nice warm, and

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<v Speaker 5>they can alternate back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you brought that up because it's an interesting fact

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<v Speaker 4>that the andy and Flamingos sometimes they'll live in a

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<v Speaker 4>high altitude lakes as an example, and the water can

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<v Speaker 4>freeze over, so they're actually a little water lock for

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<v Speaker 4>a hot and in the morning, so they need to

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<v Speaker 4>get the sun come out and melt away that frozen water.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the idea of just again this hard environment

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<v Speaker 4>and you see life just flourishing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's really great.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, really cold environments are really really tough bird, so

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<v Speaker 5>really cold environments they can be found in. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the African species, the lesser flamingo, which is not less

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<v Speaker 5>than but the smallest flamingo in the world. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the eight or flamingos are found in really hot, really dry,

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<v Speaker 5>very sunny environments. Yeah, so really tough on the other

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<v Speaker 5>end of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking the other day, because everyone knows about it,

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<v Speaker 4>if you haven't heard, there are these bald eagles out

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<v Speaker 4>in Big Bear, right, And I love this shot because

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<v Speaker 4>it really highlights a big, beautiful raptor nest, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>eagles and hawks and falcons.

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<v Speaker 1>Like really unique stick kind of nests.

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<v Speaker 4>But can you talk a little bit, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of guests aren't familiar what makes a flamingo

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<v Speaker 4>nest so unique, why it looks the way it does,

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<v Speaker 4>and why they do what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure. Yeah, Flamingos build really really interesting nests, and they

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<v Speaker 5>kind of look like little mini volcanoes. So there are

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<v Speaker 5>mud nests that they build, and they build them up

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<v Speaker 5>really really high, and it's interesting because they start low obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're sitting on the ground of what they've started

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<v Speaker 5>with these nests, and then they're slowly pulling mud underneath

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<v Speaker 5>them and building it beneath their bodies and raising it

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<v Speaker 5>up off the ground until they get it to their

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<v Speaker 5>desired height and then it kind of bowls out. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's where it kind of looks like a volcano for

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<v Speaker 5>that one single egg to sit. And the reason they

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<v Speaker 5>do that is because they do nest and live in

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<v Speaker 5>areas that flood and the water can Yeah, the water

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<v Speaker 5>can rise very quickly, and they're doing that to protect

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<v Speaker 5>their eggs and eventually their newly hatched chicks up out

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<v Speaker 5>of the water.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was working at Sandygo Zoo, the

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<v Speaker 3>swimingos right out front. A lot of people be always

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why do the keepers build all those mounds

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<v Speaker 3>and keepers?

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<v Speaker 2>They look so uniform and so nicely done.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, to Marco's point about the bald eagle nest,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of sticks. It looks very nest like

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<v Speaker 3>is climate cluttered together, But there is some thought process

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<v Speaker 3>there on their part, whereas these flamingo volcanoes look so

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<v Speaker 3>uniform and perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of fascinating to think that they build those,

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<v Speaker 2>they make those.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's not us if I was responsible for doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>They would not look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the movie that goes I have my moment.

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<v Speaker 6>We will sometimes encourage them.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see that they're getting ready to start, so we

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<v Speaker 5>will sometimes make very small little areas, but they yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll take it upon themselves to finish it.

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<v Speaker 4>When you said that, it instantly made me think of

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<v Speaker 4>a flamingo parade, the flamboyants of flamingos. Right, can you

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<v Speaker 4>talk a little bit about flagging or what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the precursors of what you see prior to Oh, they're

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<v Speaker 4>about to lay, but something happens right before all that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right that people get a big kick out of it.

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<v Speaker 6>They love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>It never gets boring to watch those breeding behaviors. So

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<v Speaker 5>as they're kind of gearing up for a breeding season,

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<v Speaker 5>they will start marching. So it looks kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>a very choreographed dance. So they all get together in

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<v Speaker 5>a very large group. The flagging is their heads, so

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<v Speaker 5>they're swinging their heads back and forth very quickly, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're marching together, just in one large group, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is usually our indicator that they're starting. So

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<v Speaker 5>the African species of flamingos are greater flamingos the lesser flamingos.

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<v Speaker 5>They're keten with the weather, so they nest during the summer,

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<v Speaker 5>so late spring, early summer, very very hot weather. So

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<v Speaker 5>we get a really nice hot sunny day, which we

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<v Speaker 5>definitely get at the Safari Park. We'll start to see

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<v Speaker 5>the flamingos get very excited and I'll start to do

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<v Speaker 5>that marching and flagging.

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<v Speaker 3>So when they do that marching and flagging, is there

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<v Speaker 3>also like vocalizations ago with that?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they chattery very noisy, very very noisy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah, it's a whole production.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can definitely not be in the area and

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<v Speaker 5>you will hear it and.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that it's happening. You will run over.

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<v Speaker 4>To see it totally. I mean you'll even see like

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<v Speaker 4>the little youngsters doing it together. Even that's you need

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<v Speaker 4>to one. Like they're super colonial species. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 4>tons of them in a flock, thousands even at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really unique for me too that they can

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<v Speaker 4>identify their young and amongst this whole flamboy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going in front of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But also I forget the word there's a word for

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it's crashing, right, Can you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say what is that? What does that signify? That word?

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<v Speaker 5>So the whole process, the whole spectacle, from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 5>is so impressive and really one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 5>about flamingos is what incredible parents they are. So from

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<v Speaker 5>start to finish, it's the males and females that are

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<v Speaker 5>involved in all of this. They're both building that nest,

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<v Speaker 5>they're both incubating and taking care of the egg. They're

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<v Speaker 5>both participating and feeding the chicks. And then yeah, once

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<v Speaker 5>the chicks have moved off the mounds, they tend to

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<v Speaker 5>all get together into a group, which is called a crush.

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<v Speaker 6>So all of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Little baby flamingos tend to all stick together. But what

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<v Speaker 5>is so incredible to see, and I have no idea

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<v Speaker 5>how they do it, but those little chicks will vocalize,

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<v Speaker 5>they sound exactly the same to me, and you will

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<v Speaker 5>see the parents' heads pop up immediately and the parents

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<v Speaker 5>will come straight to that one individual little baby to

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<v Speaker 5>feed the babies.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a really cool, cool thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, flamingos are always like for me, like knocking

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<v Speaker 4>down those gender norms one, you know, like the males

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<v Speaker 4>and the females are all doing together. We even have

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<v Speaker 4>evidence in the pastor at the Safari Park and in

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<v Speaker 4>the wild the same sex pairs as well. It could

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<v Speaker 4>be two males two females, but also again speaks to

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<v Speaker 4>that societal aspect of this kind of bird. Right, so

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes ones without babies are fostering or taking care of others, right.

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<v Speaker 1>How that happen here at the partners.

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<v Speaker 6>That happened here, we've had it happen with.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we've seen it in all of the species

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<v Speaker 5>of things that we've had here at the park. More recently,

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<v Speaker 5>it was our lesser flamingos, So we did have a

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<v Speaker 5>pair of males that were showing a lot of interest

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<v Speaker 5>in a nest. They built a mound, a nestsound together.

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<v Speaker 5>They obviously did not lay an egg, but they were

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<v Speaker 5>showing a lot of interest. And we do occasionally see

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<v Speaker 5>a problem with our male pairings out there because they

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<v Speaker 5>aren't going to lay an egg, but the drive is

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<v Speaker 5>so strong for them to take care of an egg.

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<v Speaker 5>They will sometimes try to steal an egg from another

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<v Speaker 5>pair because they're communal nesters and they all nest really

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<v Speaker 5>close together for safety and that's how they feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 5>But it also does cause some disagreement sometimes so in

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<v Speaker 5>order for us to try to keep the peace among everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>And they did give them a fake egg to sit

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<v Speaker 5>on just to see how they would do. They went

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<v Speaker 5>straight to it. They both were incubating it. They were

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<v Speaker 5>doing a fantastic job. And so we had the idea

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<v Speaker 5>because obviously we want to increase the numbers of chicks

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<v Speaker 5>that we can produce here whenever possible. So we were

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<v Speaker 5>actually able to take a fertile egg from another pair,

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<v Speaker 5>prolific pair, an established pair that can lay multiple furtle

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<v Speaker 5>eggs in a year.

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<v Speaker 6>So we took that egg from them.

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<v Speaker 5>Gave it to our pair of boys, and they took

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<v Speaker 5>that egg, They hatched the chick, they did everything. And

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<v Speaker 5>then that other pair that we took the egg from,

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<v Speaker 5>if an egg disappears or doesn't hatch naturally in the wild,

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<v Speaker 5>they will often lay a second egg. So that pair

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<v Speaker 5>did lay a second egg. They were able to produce

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<v Speaker 5>another fertile egg. So from that pair.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually got two checks, very similar to what we

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<v Speaker 3>have done in the past with California condors, treating a

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<v Speaker 3>double clutch situation where we take that first egg put

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<v Speaker 3>an incubator.

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<v Speaker 2>They then instinctively lay another egg.

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<v Speaker 3>Which normally it's one egg per year for them, very

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<v Speaker 3>very similar concept and bolstering up the population.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that story too.

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<v Speaker 3>You had mentioned in the crash right the babies, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>one will stick its head up and call and the

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<v Speaker 3>parents know running over to feed it. Talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>feeding because it's something that can be startling for some

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<v Speaker 3>people when the crop milk, which isn't true milk, when

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<v Speaker 3>the parents are feeding a baby, sometimes it can be

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<v Speaker 3>concerning it first if you don't know what you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at it.

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<v Speaker 6>We do get questions about that as well. Because the color,

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<v Speaker 6>the colors, the color is a little alarming. It is bright,

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<v Speaker 6>bright red.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is what also is so interesting and what

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<v Speaker 5>allows two males to raise a chick together is that

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<v Speaker 5>males and females because the parenting duties are fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>The males also produce that crop milk. So these two

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<v Speaker 5>boys that fostered this egg fed that chick without a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>But yes, the color of the crop milk and it

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<v Speaker 5>is just a secretion from their crop.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's very very in the upper part the es.

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<v Speaker 5>The flamingos will actually digest their food, so they secrete

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<v Speaker 5>this milk and they will kind of dribble it onto

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<v Speaker 5>the chicks, and it does look alarming.

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<v Speaker 1>Horror film maybe sometimes, and it maybe doesn't give the

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<v Speaker 1>exact look alarming if you don't know well.

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<v Speaker 5>And then for anyone who's raised a human baby, they're

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<v Speaker 5>basically crying. So the babies are screaming for attention from

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<v Speaker 5>their parents, So the vocalizations very very loud.

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<v Speaker 6>They're vocalizing the whole time they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Being fed, so you have to just like dramatically yelling baby.

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<v Speaker 5>And we do get concerns sometimes that their beaks are

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<v Speaker 5>actually stuck together, but the parent has the beak directly

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<v Speaker 5>at the tip of the baby, so the whole thing

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<v Speaker 5>is quite a spectacle that needs to sometimes be explained.

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<v Speaker 4>Doves and some penguin species do it also. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's sai, not just the mammals. I want to point

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<v Speaker 4>out so that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the birds do it too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrap up, you did mention that the parenting process and

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<v Speaker 3>how it shared responsibili is one of your favorite facts

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<v Speaker 3>about them. Is there anything else we haven't asked about

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to these flamboyant.

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<v Speaker 2>Birds that you'd like to share with our audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure that people know when they come to see

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<v Speaker 3>them at s Fary Parker Zoo, you want to know

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<v Speaker 3>that one fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we covered a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>We did cover a lot this flock.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually though, if you do come to visit them at

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<v Speaker 5>the fire park, can you ride the tram and they

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<v Speaker 5>are one of the very first things that you see.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a great way to start your tour. But

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<v Speaker 5>you're actually looking at the largest flock of Greater flamingos

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<v Speaker 5>in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that all of the.

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<v Speaker 6>US and all of the US this is the largest flock.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, all the departments here and taking job you guys

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<v Speaker 4>helping out bird numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. This was a lot of fun. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Eron. That really great.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate having you on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>See me smiling, sir. We just swim birds around us

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<v Speaker 4>all day. We lend them, I know, am I glowing pink?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>But this is a lot of fun, right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>excited that guests and come they can celebrate flamingos on

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<v Speaker 4>International to Day exactly right front. Yeah, So we covered

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<v Speaker 4>like so far frozen zoo, meerkats, flamingos.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on for our next adventure?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it goes right into what this podcast is about.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be talking to one of our head

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<v Speaker 3>lead top educators at all San Diego Zoo about the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of inspiring the next generation for conservation and wildlife care.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're gonna go to the zoo. Yeah, they will

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<v Speaker 1>get their little early and check out those giant pandas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be sure to subscribe and tune in next time

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<v Speaker 3>when we learn more about the importance of inspiring the

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<v Speaker 3>next generation.

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