1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the drama Queens Girl Fashion, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: but you'll tough, girl, You could sit with us Girl Drama, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, drawn MC, Queen's Drama, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Queen's You guys, Joy and Sophia just got their lunches, 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: and thank god, because this episode was lacking um in 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: lots of different ways that maybe a sandwich will make 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: up for. Yeah, I'm down. Let's see if that happens 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. I'm you know, to be fair, 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: actually I did. I did like this episode. There were 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things I liked about it, and um, yeah, 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a bridge episode, as one 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: of those things that just sort of gets us from 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: point A to point B so we can kind of 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: close up some storylines and open up some new ones. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: And uh so, you know, there were some things, there 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: were some two tree things that I didn't really like, 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: but you know, overall it was fine to the synopsis 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: give it to them all right, Well, you too chew. 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to him. This is season four, 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: episode seven, All these things that I've done that's vague 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: um Air date November two thousand six. The synopsis is 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Rachel makes the cover of Maxim, causing chaository hill high. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Brooke is still dating the teacher, and she learns he 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: may not have good intentions from Rachel, causing her to 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: decide who to believe that was ever in question? Yeah, 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, come on. Meanwhile, Lucas learns of Nathan's dealings 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: with Dante and ultimately has to choose between Nathan and 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: his love for basketball. Haley takes on babysitting, only to 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: find herself in over her head and Peyton's half brother 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Derek forces her to confront her deepest fears. There's a 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of learning in that synopsis. It's like Brook learns this, 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Nathan learns this, Lucas learns this. Like that's a good 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: observation information. Did we learn anything nothing we didn't already know? Honey. Hey, 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe you know those episodes where the fans are like, 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: quit making fun of the show, you guys are beating bitches, Well, 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: there was good stuff. There was good stuff, So let's 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: focus on this Brooks Fashion Show. Yeah, Brooks Fashion Show. 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: We're back in Brooks nineties romcom world. It's my favorite. 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see it. Um, I wasn't in 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: love with those clothes, but you know whatever, it's the 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: early odd listen that makes some space. That red dress 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: really had a lot of airtime this episode. Well, it's 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: also funny to me because that red dress is basically 47 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: a copy of Brooks Season one red party dress. Yes, 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: g G is wearing a red dress, Like, is the 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: only dress up outfit anyone knows of a red halter 50 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: top dress? Is that? It is that all we got? 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: And why am I having mouth put rhyme stones on 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: this girl? And and why is America's Next Top Model 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: on our show? I mean she's lovely, but like what 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: was happening? Man? That was Charity English and I used 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: to hang out with her at our upfront parties because 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: America's Next Top Model was the biggest show on our network. 57 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: It was such a big deal, and it was a 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: big deal for us to have one of their winners 59 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: on our show. She was cut, come on our show 60 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: and just talk to this boy about being a virgin. 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: That's all I need you to do. Let's just talk 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to him about over and over and over again about 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: being a virgin. Nick the teacher is a sexual predator. 64 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: And then they're like, you know, we should really just 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: even it out, So let's make America's top model a predator. Guys, guys, 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I swear we're not just gonna do this. We did 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: this in the last episode. It's okay, we're gonna talk 68 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: about other things, but you know, it's just hard to avoid. 69 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: It's there, it's right there by the way. We have 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: to talk about it because it keeps happening. And again 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: simply evidence that there were a lot of gross, horny 72 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: year old men in really writing their creepy man fantasies 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: like bro, I'm sorry, America's next top model does not 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: want to bang a high school senior. Stop it, just 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: stop it. It's disgusting. Joy, you said, I actually wrote 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: it down. You said, it's just exhausting. How wrote it 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: down to ste If you're sick of hearing us talk 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: about it, imagine sick talking about it. Imagine how sick 79 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: we were of having to do it. Okay, let's talk 80 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: about real life scandal. Did you have real life scandals 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: in your town. He was always in church, wasn't it. Well, 82 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: we had that too, Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: It's always like somebody involved in like, you know, youth choir. Like, oh, yeah, 84 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: that's right. There was a Yes, there was a youth 85 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: group leader at my church who got involved with one 86 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: of the students. Of course. Yeah. I was on a 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: road trip with my dad and he was like, look 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: up my best friend from high school, and I did, 89 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: and his like old best friends, like a mega church 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: leader back home in Virginia, and the son of this 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: guy was the youth leader and definitely arrested around with 92 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: like kids. It's it's always always that. It's always that, 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: you know who I loved recently, I don't know if 94 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: you guys saw this video on TikTok, this amazing woman 95 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: and joy I was thinking about you because she's in Tennessee. 96 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: She went to like some city council meeting in Tennessee 97 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: and went off in that yeah, like in whatever town 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: she lives in, they were trying to pass, you know, 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: a terribly bigoted bill against drag performers. And she in 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: her like deep Southern accent. This woman is my hero. 101 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: She was like, I have never been assaulted at our 102 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: drag show. But you know where I have been twice 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: Church and like she just went off on like the 104 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: whole world. Always in church, it's always I know we 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: had like did you have in high school? She was 106 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: just great, Yeah, because we well I went to a 107 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Christian high school, So there was that still that sort 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: of like that's a double way all the world. For 109 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: all the good things that I took away from that 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: in a foundation of faith in my life. I mean 111 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: that was really important and it is incredibly valuable. Um. 112 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: But you know the problem with any organization as humans, Yes, 113 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: those are complicated and um inevitably, in an environment where 114 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you are trying to where the control of your behavior 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: becomes more important than um, the authenticity of your spiritual experience, UM, 116 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: you're going to have people freaking out, acting out because 117 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: they need to. It's not normal for us to have 118 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: our behavior controlled like that. Well, and then when you 119 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: layer money and power, you know, the ability to make laws, 120 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: the ability to be a tax free institution and become 121 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: one of the largest global landowners on earth, Like, this 122 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: stuff gets deeply complicated. And there's actually a guy who 123 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: will joy I know you're off Twitter, but there's a 124 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: guy who follows us and now I guess just follows 125 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: me and Hillary, but he responds to a lot of 126 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the things we talked about on the podcast. I adore 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: him and he was actually uh, I don't know if 128 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: he was a theology student or a seminary school kid, 129 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: but he sent me some stuff recently about how there's 130 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: like full proof that from Aramaic even you know that 131 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: the way the Bible has been like mistranslated for power 132 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and access that Leviticus in original translations said do not 133 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: lie with a child, and they can trace when that 134 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: was changed because the kings who controlled translations, who controlled 135 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: the book in the first place, made all their money 136 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: by marrying off their children for land rights. So if 137 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: you needed to marry your twelve year old daughter to 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: somebody's twenty five year old sons so you could increase 139 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: your old exactly, you know. But it's it's actually Sofia. 140 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: It's so interesting. It's almost like our boss wanted to 141 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: be a king. But there it is. But like but truly, 142 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: when you look at that, like the way that again 143 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: you said it, people are the problem. They'll they'll bastardize 144 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: ideas to accrue power, and money. Yeah, just human nature 145 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: can't get away from it. So yeah, there's always seems 146 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: so would be able to get away from it. But 147 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I like your point, Joy that like you, you were 148 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: able to derive um like really important parts of yourself 149 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: from that experience while acknowledging like, yeah, this other is awful. 150 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Like in my time, I loved my high school so 151 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: so so much. I loved it. I'm still friends with 152 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: all my teachers. I obviously, like still interact with everyone 153 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: I grew up with. I go home a lot. I 154 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: love that about you. I'll tell you what though, when 155 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I moved to New York and I started telling like 156 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: my dorm roommates about the ship that would happen between 157 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: teachers and students, they were horrified. They're like, where are 158 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you from? And even though that stuff happened at my 159 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: high school, Like for real, I'm still scandalized by One 160 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Tree Hill. I'm still like they're kissing at the school. 161 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Don't they know that you're supposed to meet in a 162 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: parking lot like down the road at the safe way, 163 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: Like there are rules to scandal that One Tree All 164 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: was not adhering to. Oh that's a that's a TV 165 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: show the rules, rules to scandal, scandal. They just kissed 166 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: in the classroom, that's regrets. But again, it's like it 167 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: all comes back fantasy to our wannabe kingmaker, to this fantasy, 168 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: this fantasy that you could have not one but two 169 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: like with Brooke and Rachel too hot cheerleaders throw themselves 170 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: at you when you're the teacher and one of them 171 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: happens to be on the cover of Maxim And then 172 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: the cute announcer boy has a model from New York 173 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: throwing herself at him. Like it's all sakes me off. 174 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: Like something that I noticed in this episode and it 175 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: just clicked for the first time, is that Lee's entire 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: storyline for the at least this far into the show, 177 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: has been him just waiting around for quote unquote hot 178 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: girls and then being told he's not attractive enough for 179 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: whatever this quote unquote hot girl this thing is, and 180 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: so now he's got to settle for some you know, 181 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: she turns out she's super hot, you know, big surprise, 182 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: she's all that. But it's like he thinks he's settling 183 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: and then realizes it's just so confusing to me that again, 184 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Lee such a great actor, Why isn't he doing anything 185 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: more than pining after some He's just chasing girls around, 186 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: this idea that you have to do the right thing 187 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: by being with this insanely hot girl instead of this 188 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: insanely hot girl he won a model in competition. Like 189 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: what a martyr, you guys, what a martyr? It's just 190 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: so well And this was said in like so many 191 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes interviews and stuff. But the character of 192 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Mouth was modeled on our boss, and so all the 193 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: girls kind of teasing Mouth is our boss being like 194 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: all of you girls are teasing me, and like we 195 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: have such a deep connect shin and all that grossness. 196 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: And then of course he casts, you know, a fourteen 197 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: year old to come in and play the one that 198 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: wants him, you know, and yeah, the nerdy one who's 199 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: obsessed because she can't be interesting unless she's what did 200 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: you say? She's like, I say, she has to be 201 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: horny or she can't have a personnelity. That's it. That's it. 202 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: It's like, how's Lucas doing well? He's he's percent at 203 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the line, but he's a hud hot. I'm like, why 204 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: are we making this lovely, little funny girl say these things? 205 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's cute in and of itself, if it 206 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: were out of the context of everything else we're talking about. 207 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: It's cute. That's like a cute thing for high school 208 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: girl to say. Also knowing the knowing the ick factor 209 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: of all of it. It just throws it in with 210 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: the whole bathwater. But joy, it would be cute for 211 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: g to say to us like wow, and we're all like, 212 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, wait what, Like that's funny. Among the 213 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: girls she is asking mouth out and then drooling over Lucas. 214 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: It's like, that's weird. What word? I know? You're that's weird. 215 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: It's all just so weird, and and the hits keep coming. 216 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: It's not even just at the high school stage. Well 217 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say just high school because you know Nick's 218 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: a teacher. But it runs all the way up the 219 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: line to Dan Scott going to bail debb out of jail, 220 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: going look at all these horrors, which ones mine? Oh 221 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: the old one, like what she's six years old and 222 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: she's described and why are all the women in the 223 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: Tree Hill Jail in Lingerie dressed up like again some 224 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: guy's fantasy of a prostitute? Like what is that? Literally 225 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: all we exist to be in this show skinny women 226 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: in lingerie who looked trashy. First of all, the prostitutes 227 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: I know don't dress like that. And second of all, 228 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: it's like we've established this as a small sleepy yea. 229 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: From all of a sudden, we've got we have the 230 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: night and the mafia. Guys. It's officially shark time where 231 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the boat is going over. It's happening, all right, let's 232 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: talk about Rick Fox. Wait a second, is this just lame? 233 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Is like, is our show turning into lames with like 234 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: all the women working down at the docks, and we've 235 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: got Jean Valjean, you know, like Nathan stole the loaf 236 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: of bread. Now he's got to pay for it. That's happening. 237 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: That would have but that would have been way better. 238 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: It would have been. I wanted a song and dance routine, 239 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: that's right. I met Rick Fox only a couple of times. Um, 240 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: he was always really nice to me. I think he 241 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: was too nice to work with. Yeah, like so tall, 242 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: so much taller than anyone who's tall and is Um, 243 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: he does a nice job. Is this his first acting gig? 244 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: I want to say, done some other stuff here and 245 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: there he had I remember he's so handsome. He's so handsome, 246 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and he's lovely and and for as much of a 247 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: leaping over Sharks storyline as this is, he he does 248 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: have a very calm energy and there's a groundedness to 249 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: him that makes him spooky. And yeah, I I thought, 250 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, again, for as silly as it is, I 251 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: thought he and James did a really beautiful job of 252 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: this together. You know, you can see in that last scene, 253 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: like when they win the game, but they've shaved the points, 254 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: like the way that Nathan's just hanging his head while 255 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: everyone celebrating around them. You really saw the impact of it, 256 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: and it was it was cool to see like a 257 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: whole new storyline for him that was really interesting and 258 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: about you know, emotional and moral conflict um inside of 259 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: a silly container. But I thought those guys did a 260 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: really beautiful job. And you know what I do remember, God, 261 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: as I'm talking about it, I'm like picturing the scene again. 262 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I remember how cute it was to see James and 263 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: all the basketball boys get so excited when Rick Fox. 264 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: They were like, oh my god, And it was really 265 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: sweet to see them all like puppy dogging around asking 266 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: him questions about the NBA and stuff. It was cute it. 267 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: I think Conrad the guy who was like, you know, 268 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: the body man for Rick fox Um, what do say? 269 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: He and Paul knew each other like there was their friends. Yeah, 270 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: their pals, I think basketball buddies. Maybe it was cool 271 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: because Paul had always kind of been like the big 272 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: guy on set, and so now we have this bigger 273 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: guy on set and that was fun to watch, like 274 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: just just bros browing out and kind of just feeling 275 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: out the bronness of it all. That's always always talking 276 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 1: about basketball. Now. Yeah, they they had fun, and I 277 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: think it was important to your point that Rick played 278 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the character super calm, because as unbelievable as the situation is, 279 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: they made it really believable how easily a naive person 280 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: could fall into this debt trap. Like it just it's 281 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: like Nathan slipped and whoops, here we are. Yeah, totally. 282 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I think I feel like he loses his scholarship to 283 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Duke over this. I could be wrong, but that's what's 284 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: in my memory. Anyway, he'd love to see I don't remember, 285 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: but Hayley's going to Duke. He's going to Duke. She 286 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: can figure out how to take care of a child. Yeah, 287 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: which the indication is not great considering the two kids 288 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: that she well, they're kind of were bratty kids. Where'd 289 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: you find that one of them? One of them was 290 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: Barbara allen Wood's daughter in real life, Natalie Lynn, who 291 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: is now starring in Big Sky and a bunch of 292 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: other great TV shows and movies. She's some wonderful actress 293 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: and girls are really sweet to see her face or 294 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: big brown eyes and those freckles. I missed her. She 295 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: was such a sweetheart. Um, yeah, that was fun. I 296 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: remember that was a fun day. And you know, I 297 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: don't really like other people's kids. You said that when 298 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: we're out of it, said, I was, by the way, 299 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: that's why I said, when when Hailey goes no, I'll 300 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: like ours. I said, Look, it's foreshadowing for you exactly. Yeah. 301 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I wonder what that did you babysit growing up? Not really, No, 302 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know everyone. It's just it's just it's just 303 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: some people's kids. Some people I don't know. Like, I'm 304 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: really nice. I'll take them in small doses, and I 305 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: love being nice to a kid. Are like five minutes. 306 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: It's only you know what, Like my my friends who 307 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: have kids who I do love, or Maria's friends like 308 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: she's got you know, I'm sure you know to Hill 309 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: like Gus and George probably have friends in their own 310 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: spaces that you like, something you love, and some that 311 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: you're like, God, I don't want that little bull over here. 312 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Ever again, I'm the exact opposite. I really I love 313 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: bad kids, like love them. And if I see like 314 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: certain mothers that are struggling, I'm like, please bring them 315 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: to my farm. I will win them over. I will 316 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: hit The struggling is a whole different thing than just 317 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: legitimately raising your kids to be apples. I like like, 318 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: I like, I like the challenge of a bad kid. 319 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: It's thrilling, too busy. I'm into it. I'm into it. 320 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: There are a couple of examples that I won't say 321 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: because I don't want any of my friends to like 322 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: know that they're the ones with the bad kids. But 323 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I I relish a challenge. It's probably so funny. Explains 324 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: a lot of my dating life too. I'm just like, 325 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: you just give me the complicated little girl Almot fix 326 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: them right up? Yeah, hypnotizem. I'm gonna buy you. I 327 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: love the kids like Maria's got some friends who I 328 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: really really love, and those kids are like die hard. Like, 329 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: once you're in my heart, you're in. If anything ever 330 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: happens to you, I will take your kid for the 331 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: rest of like, I will do whatever, like whatever. I 332 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: love your child like my own. Um, but it's a 333 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: few and far between. Maybe that's a is that like 334 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: an introvert thing too? Well? Also because you didn't have 335 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: siblings growing up? I didn't, But I mean no, the 336 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: thing of like like it's kind of a hard shell. 337 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: But then once you're in, you're just like sucking you're 338 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: in forever. Yeah, but it's just hard to get in. 339 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I have some my friends kids who are like that. Anyway, 340 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: we're really far down the road of optics it all. 341 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: I mean, if I don't know, So, if you did camp, 342 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: did you babysit? No? I didn't really babysit. My baby's 343 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: not a lot, did you he? Yeah? How do you 344 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: think I made my money in Sterling Park? Baby? That 345 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: was the only way I made any money in like 346 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: junior high. In high school, I watched all the kids 347 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and and you didn't really get a 348 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: choice because it was usually like like friends of your 349 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: parents or parents that saw you on the playground and 350 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you look like you can handle chaos. 351 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Do you want to come over? Totally. I relate to 352 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: those parents so much now. There was a kid I 353 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: babysat for where any time I was over, you know, 354 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: it's pre cell phone because we're that old, and we 355 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: would get a phone call while I was sitting there 356 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: babies and this kid and it was from the prison. 357 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: It was like, you have a paid phone call from 358 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Virginia Correctional Institute and it was their freepy uncle and 359 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: he'd be like, oh, it is so and so there 360 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, no, not at home right now, 361 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: and be like, you're the babysitter. And it was always 362 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: like a dayline episode. And I continued to babysit for 363 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: this family for serious. Yes, I think you need to 364 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: check up on that family home hard pass, no, thank you, 365 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Like those were the bad kids that groomed me to 366 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: grow up and have a soft spot for bad kids. Yeah, 367 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: And they would like those kids were bad. They would 368 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: do things like they would hide condoms in the house 369 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: so that their mother thought their dad was cheating on them. 370 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: Like when I'm talking bad bad. Oh that's terrible. Yeah yeah, 371 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: and so that that just feels like a little person 372 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: who wants to watch the world burn. I'm disconcerned. Yeah, 373 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: so these kids on one Tree Hill seemed harmless, Like 374 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: what's a spitball? Yeah, yeah, you know exactly. I also 375 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: think like the wads have just wet toilet paper all 376 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: over the walls. I'm like, has anybody ever babysat a kid? 377 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: Do you all know what kids do? They don't do this? No, 378 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean they'll clog a toilet. Yeah. Yeah, Well, anyway, 379 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: it seemed like Hayley was having I did like her 380 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: running to Karen though at the basketball game and Karen 381 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: being like, good luck, kid, this is what it is. 382 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Not helpful. It was also very sweet to see that 383 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: like redemptive moment, you know, after this struggle for Nathan 384 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: taking this money and shaving these points and having this 385 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: guilt at the end of the game, even though they're 386 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: going to stay, that sweet moment where you're watching him 387 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: with those kids. It was such a nice way to 388 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: remind the audience what he was doing this for, like 389 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: what he was making the mistake for, And it was 390 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: so so sweet. That was just purely sweet. Did you 391 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: guys remember that night? Do you remember show me that night? 392 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Because I was there. We did everything at that gym, 393 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: a new hand over high school, all in one night, 394 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: and I remember the three of us hanging back at 395 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: the other side of the gym talking about how hot 396 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: James was with the kids because it was like Barbara's daughters, 397 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: so Barbara was there too. We were all hanging everybody 398 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: was watching, going, oh yeah, that was I think that 399 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: was my first wake up call, like James is hot, 400 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: like clock before, because you guys, this was the moment 401 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: where we all were like, oh, he's not a baby anymore. Yeah, exactly, 402 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: this is very thirteen year old. He's a big boy, 403 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: Like he's he's holding a baby. What's happening? All of 404 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: our all of our wounds just open, our booms start hurting, like, 405 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: what's going on your over ache? I totally remember that. 406 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't just us. I even remember Barbara being like, 407 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't I'm uncomfortable. He could be a child. Those 408 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: are my children. What's happening? Yeah, yeah, good for him. Honestly, 409 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: he should just always have a baby on his hip, 410 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: you know that would be cool. James carry this child around. 411 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: We like it. I mean, I guess it's gonna have 412 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: to do that for the next How many seasons did 413 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: this go? Oh yeah, believe me, it's coming, don't you 414 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: worry coming. So what happened with Peyton in this episode? 415 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: She was still afraid dumb bulldog, mural bulldog. You guys, 416 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: it's not right. If anything, we laughed a lot this episode. 417 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: We did you know what I loved that? You said? Hillary, Guys, 418 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: for all of our friends at home, we're watching the 419 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: episode and that bulldogs on the wall, and Hillary goes, 420 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: nobody in the writer's room has ever been a teenage girl? 421 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: First she went dork door, dork with your dog over 422 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: your bed, the evolution the dog, all the things that 423 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Peyton would have drawn to protect herself. This girl who 424 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: is like lives in darkness and makes pa angel and 425 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: all of these deeply dark. She walks through cemeteries. She's 426 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: going to draw a picking bulldog on her above her 427 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: bad gray dog. Bulldog doesn't even protect you in a fight, 428 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Dog breathe. She would have 429 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: like drawn a spell on her wall or some kind 430 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: of like I don't know, just fat little pub dogs 431 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: who can barely walk. I should have been like bats, 432 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, like that's what I'm saying. That's a rattlesnake. 433 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: How about a wolf? A wolf at the very least, right, 434 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: it's like a little cliche, but okay, I mean a 435 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: bulldog grabbed your pant leg, and it's just like the 436 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: evolution of like the bulldog. And then I'm like sleeping 437 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: under it, and then I'm like still working on it. 438 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: And then I put Derek's name on a heart on 439 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: the name tag burning car or what's really bizarre? Okay, 440 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: do that gircas Derek's her brother. It's real Derek, not 441 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: psycho Derek bho. I did not catch that. Okay, the 442 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: bulldog is dumbish, But I will say I thought you 443 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: did such a beautiful job in this episode. And for 444 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: as much as we've been talking about how at the time, 445 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, in two thousand six we were not doing 446 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: a good job talking about the reality of the effects 447 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: of a traumatic event on a young woman, Peyton having 448 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: panic attacks is finally a real acknowledgement of what she's 449 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: going through. Yes, and we're finally getting to a point 450 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's like some dummy. Not only are they 451 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: dummies about dogs, but they're dummies about apparently boys, Like 452 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: some dummy thought that because real Derek is a marine, 453 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: all he's going to do is scream at you, and 454 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: eventually that calms on and he apologizes. Like I feel 455 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: like we're finally getting somewhere, even though the container has 456 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: been a little sloppy, you needing to leave school, showing 457 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: how triggers around a person can re ignite their traumatic event, 458 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, him finally being able to see you and 459 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: saying like tomorrow will be six minutes instead of five. 460 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: Like there's a couple of nuggets of good advice and 461 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: of honest acknowledgment here, and you really you brought those 462 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: things to life in a way that made them feel 463 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: very real. M hm do you guys? I didn't think 464 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: about util We just started talking about it. But like 465 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Nathan also just did the panic attack storyline right like 466 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: the PTSD I'm freaked out storyline, and they feel different 467 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: though they feel well. I just think the importance of 468 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: writer's rooms and in having variety in your voices in 469 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: a writer's room would have made a big difference here, 470 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: because we're recycling storylines over and over again. It's like 471 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Rachel hooked up with an older dude, and now Brooke 472 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: is hooking up with an older dude. Nathan's dealing with 473 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: the panic attacks, and now Peyton's dealing with a panic attack, 474 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: and we're not connecting the dots in a way that 475 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: facilitates story, right. It just seems like, Yeah, it's like, 476 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: at what point would Nathan go to Peyton? You know, 477 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Payton's gone to Nathan a bunch of times and been like, hey, 478 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: you seem to be falling apart. How can I help? Um, 479 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: that's not reciprocated yet. Maybe it happens. I don't know. 480 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Um, but it's if we're 481 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: gonna repeat things, that has to be for a reason, 482 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: make it makes sense. Um. I do like that Ernest 483 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: calms down, though I didn't like that they made him 484 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: a yeller because yeah, bit a tough marine. Uh weird. 485 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: It's like, why is he yelling at her? Why is 486 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: he always mean that this girl he doesn't even know? 487 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: And then also the timeline just got wonky for me 488 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: because he says that my dad left my mom for Ellie, 489 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: but he lived with us until I was a little 490 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: bit younger than you, So like if if our biological 491 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: dad left when he was like twelve, let's say twelve 492 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: or thirteen, is he twelve or thirteen years older than Peyton? Like, 493 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense people. That's the kind of 494 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: that takes me out of a story where I'm like, 495 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: the math is wrong, guys. I think we did a 496 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of that on our show. It was It's the 497 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: same thing as the marine based like Chad rolling up 498 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: in the room the homework. Here's what I'll say that 499 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: I follow Ernest on uh Instagram. He's an artist and 500 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: he just had a baby. We need to get him 501 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: on this show. I know, I know, we do. I 502 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: like him so much. He's got full white hair now, 503 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: so I totally believe that we are brother and sister 504 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: because we are both pretty surely gray and just like 505 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm good with it, like fine life. Yeah, you know, 506 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: I loved him on this show because it was such 507 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: a He was just a refreshing presence. Yeah, he was 508 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: a little yelly at first. They had to calm him down, 509 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: and you know, they had to calm the writing down 510 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: from directing him to do that, I guess, but um, 511 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: but he stuck around for a little while and it's 512 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: it's just so nice to see his face whenever he 513 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: pops up on screen. I mean, he's great to look at, 514 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: and he's a nice actor. But I think just the 515 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: it's just refreshing to get outside of the what we're 516 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: talking about all the same recycled stuff with all the girls, 517 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: and um, you know, Nathan and Haley are kind of 518 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: seems like we're running out of storyline, so you can 519 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 1: flirty this episode with the like, hey, you're winning all 520 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: these games. That's hot. I'm going to do it. It's 521 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, that was fun. You're blocking what 522 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: they lacked in the writing for you, you're making up 523 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: for in the blocking. Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, And it's see 524 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: it's nice to see Nathan and Haley flirting and playful. 525 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: It's like you you want to know what they're holding onto, 526 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: what they're fighting here, you know. It's it's lovely that 527 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: in the midst of even financial stress, you see who 528 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: this couple is. That's that's the kind of thing that 529 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: as an audience member, helps you kind of keep the 530 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: faith alive. You know, Yeah, right, who else? Did what 531 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: else do we have in this getting arrested? Okay, so 532 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: one time I stayed in New York City in the 533 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: apartment of it was like a friend's friend and I 534 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: was shooting a pilot in New York and I had 535 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: my daughter and the nanny, and I was like, I 536 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: just they're not gonna put me up, Like, how are 537 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: we gonna do two rooms every So I'm just going 538 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: to get an airbnb. Well, as I'm talking, uh, somebody said, 539 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: I know somebody who's got an apartment, and it was like, 540 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: it's a gorgeous place, um on one fifth Avenue. So 541 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: it was like, really for for anyone who doesn't know, 542 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: that's the building that um Carrie bradshop you lived in 543 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: in the in the Sex and the City book. So 544 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: it's like a big I was like, oh, that's so exciting. 545 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: So I stayed there for we were there for a month. 546 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: It was great. Anyway, the guy whose apartment it was, 547 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: or the husband of the wife's apartment was he's a 548 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: doctor and he had a prescription pad in the um 549 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, and I didn't know this was like 550 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years ago, maybe now probably seven. Anyway, 551 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know that you that prescription pads are special. 552 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: You thought it was stationary. I really just thought it 553 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: was like you could just write, so I would use 554 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: it all the time, taking notes down on my phone, 555 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: leaving leaving little notes when I left the house, like 556 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: love you, sweetheart. You know I'll be back at eight 557 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: tonight whatever. Probably twelve fifteen pages of this this prescription pad. 558 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: No idea. Why was it just sitting at home? That's 559 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: so illegal. It was just in a path. It was 560 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: like in a drawer in the kitchen. I just was like, 561 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: I need something to write on. Open to drawer and 562 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh great, here's some papers like doctor 563 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: stationary on it. I was like great, and uh yeah. 564 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: So definitely got a phone call about that after I 565 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: checked out of that house. Yeah, big problem. I mean, 566 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: good thing. I wasn't doing what deb did and like 567 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: trying to actually write fake prescription. Let this be a 568 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: lesson to all of you. Those prescription pads are accounted folks. Yeah. Yeah, 569 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean he he had to the doctor had to 570 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: like literally report damaged pages. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. I had 571 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: no idea because everything people like I'd grew up with 572 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: zero history or information about the medical community at all, 573 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: just was not My family was a creative and a 574 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: teaching family, but had nothing to do with medicine. So 575 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: have you never told me? It feels like we have 576 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: to get domt notarized all the time, like they should 577 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: have to have like a stamp on those things like 578 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: that serious business paperwork. Also, these are the kinds of 579 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: things that in schools should be taught. There's like a 580 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: life skill class missing from every high school in America, 581 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: by the way, the fact that we have no financial 582 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: education and we don't have civics anymore, like they literally 583 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: took civics out of school, so people don't understand how 584 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: the government works or investment or just like how did 585 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: you change the filter on your conditioners when you're in 586 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to you have to like google how long 587 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: are you know, fill in the blank, leftovers good, like 588 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: anything relevant. But but but I I do know that 589 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, we had a civil war. I know that 590 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: we had I know, seventeen seventy six. Boy, that's just 591 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: really driven home. It's like, what are we what are 592 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: we doing? What are we doing? What are we teaching 593 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: these children? Maybe if these kids in tree Hill had 594 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: that class, they wouldn't be like kissing the teachers and 595 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, having babies and all the craziness. Is that 596 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: what Home Mac used to be and then it got 597 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: canceled because it's was supposedly sexist, well know as treasurer 598 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: of Future Homemakers of America, the Sterling Park Um. It 599 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: was about the domestic arts which boys and girls should know, 600 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: but it targeted, like the salesmanship was bad at targeted chicks. 601 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Although the boys I knew that did Home Mac with 602 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: me had the best time ever and they were like 603 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: the better boyfriends in high school. Look, I think I 604 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: think it's a problem. You know if you look back, Yes, 605 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: it we ab. We should never have had a system 606 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: that was like only the girls are going to learn 607 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: to cook and only the boys are going to learn 608 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: wood shop. So if the answer was not to take 609 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: those classes away, the answer was to make everybody take 610 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: home back and make everybody take fucking wood shop. Do 611 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: you know how bad I wish I could build myself 612 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: an outdoor couch? Do you have any idea how expensive 613 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: those things are? I don't want to pay for one. 614 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: I want to build it. I'm so annoyed. Give me 615 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: a wood shop class. Where's that class on our show? 616 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. We should have had a wood shop 617 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: class who shop. Oh and car mechanics. Yes, we called 618 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: it votech We had we had tea and then we 619 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: had votech for vocational technology. Right now there's a big 620 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: votech Um where my husband is from. Yeah, and it's 621 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: awesome fun and they're doing, um interestingly, they're doing a 622 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: lot of like, uh, wind powered. Oh that's crazy. They're 623 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: like engineering for for wind farms and stuff, which is 624 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I love that. I mean, we just want 625 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: to know how to do anything. Did we ever have 626 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: any class Entree Hill except English class? Like that's definitely 627 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: the only one I ever remember us being in. Yeah, 628 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's funny. We didn't. We didn't do 629 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of school school, even though the whole 630 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: show took place school. Where's where's like the end of 631 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: the year report? We all have to do with that 632 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: styrofoam board? Where's my traff old board? Yeah? He has 633 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: doing one right now, just to build a model of 634 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: this the building that this murder Mr. She just read 635 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: take place in like dioramas? Why are we making diamas? 636 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: Where was our book? Fair? That was my favorite? When 637 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: it's fair? The best nobody was making like ice and 638 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: yelling at plants and playing classical music for the other one. 639 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Nobody was doing no nothing volcanoes. Yeah, I loved it. 640 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: They are not going to pay for like a science 641 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: classroom with like beakers. They're like, we can't afford beakers. 642 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: We're paying for another fashion show. We've got rhinestones to buy. 643 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: We have rhinestones to buy and adorned America's next top 644 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: liter are all the things that normal teenagers do. I 645 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: don't know, but I will say I the teen bickering 646 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: again of Brook and Rachel just makes me so happy 647 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: that like the up and down of these two, they're 648 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: on like a hyper speed see saw of love and 649 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: hate with each other, and I have so much fun 650 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: watching them. And the line of all lines in this 651 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: episode do it You're just a slutty, lying liar who lies. 652 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Put it on my body. Put it on my body. 653 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: Loved it. It's like I wanted on a show, but 654 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't because I don't want to call it girl sluts. 655 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 1: But god, I need I need, Like I don't know 656 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: if it's a sticker, I don't know what it is, 657 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: but I need something. Yeah. Well this was Adell Limb 658 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: writing this episode. Who I really like? Um crazy rich 659 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: Asians is Adele and then I worked with her on 660 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon, which was a nice little She might have 661 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: been on White Collar too. I feel like I've worked 662 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: with Adele on a number of different things. Um, but 663 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: she's so good and so this one was snappy. This episode, Well, 664 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: the thing is, that's it. It's like we get dorky, 665 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: dorky storyline and a good writer. We'll take the dorky 666 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: storyline and like pick it up. And you know she 667 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: she had to look at that white board and be like, Okay, 668 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: well I gotta shut this in and I gotta shut 669 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: this in, and I guess we're gonna fit this in. 670 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: Put that bulldog in there. It would be great. It 671 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: keeps the monsters at pay. You guys that she made 672 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: it make sense? Um, what about Okay, we have to 673 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: talk about the Dan and Karen and the truth of 674 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: it all, because Dan's with this new haircut. Is new 675 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: Dan who's making sense here and there, like not giving 676 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: Nathan money and not you know, not being a total 677 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: old to Karen and saying like no, dev is incapacitated, 678 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: Like you need to take this business otherwise it's gonna 679 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: fall apart. It's so complicated. When Dan does the right 680 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: thing because you think it's it sort of feels like 681 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: he's handing you a grenade, you know. But what was 682 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: so interesting to me was when we were watching the 683 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: scene and he was saying to Karen, look, you've got 684 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: to do this, regardless of how you feel about me. 685 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: Deb's a mess. All three of us said, well, I mean, 686 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: he's right, and then literally thirty seconds later, he goes Karen, 687 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: regardless of your feelings about me, you know I'm right, 688 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, well tell me, I'm all right. Okay, 689 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: if you just hadn't have said it, it it could have 690 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: and charming, but he had to announce, hey there, little woman. 691 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: Was this this season that Paul got bumped to recurring 692 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: because he's not showing up as much, but he was 693 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: directing a ton I think that was the trade because 694 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: he directed the Cabin, He directed the last episode, the 695 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: last episode, so he was in post during this episode. 696 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh right, that's why they didn't write him a lot. 697 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: They were suddenly like, not in it very much after 698 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: being so heavy, and then he's going to direct our 699 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: fight episode coming up soon too, Like he was directing 700 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: like every third episode. What episode the one where crack 701 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: Sofia skull with my head. Oh you guys have a 702 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: my elbow. It was like an accident, an accident. Well, yeah, 703 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: we just we were choreographing in on one when we 704 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: were supposed to you know, we were supposed to go left, 705 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: left and right. We just kind it was bad. They 706 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: was bad, and I was like, we're done. We're done. Anyway, 707 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: we'll get there. But Paul was directing lots of big episodes. 708 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: I think it made sense to have someone in house 709 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: that there was a shorthand with, you know, who could 710 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: handle the big stuff. Yeah, okay, what else did we miss? 711 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the creepy teacher is out of the picture. 712 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: Now are we done? Now? I don't know, Please I 713 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: get fired. What happens? I don't remember. Guys, he's got 714 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: to go away, you know, because he's going to win 715 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: the next episode. Because even when he kissed you at 716 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: the end, you had this look on your face like 717 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 1: mmmmmm bottle. When the red dress, oh right, that's right, 718 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: that happened in the middle and then the model yeah yeah, yeah. 719 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: It was the best part of the episode because it 720 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: was the double slap, that double slap, that's right back 721 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: this way and then I hit him this way. I mean, 722 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: he deserved it. Double slap. Oh God, it made me 723 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: so happy. Okay, we have a fan question. This is 724 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: from Tara. She says, my fan question comes from scenes 725 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: where fights or other violent actions take place perfect exactly. 726 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: For example, when Hayley slaps Rachel Or Brooke and Peyton fight, 727 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: do you have to channel some sort of anger or 728 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: anything to get through that? And even more important, what 729 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: happens when you hear cut? Do you instantly start laughing? 730 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: Does it take a second to snap out of it? Well? 731 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: I I feel like our immediate reaction is good, You're good. Okay, 732 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: You're good. You know, like there's a check in that happens. Um. 733 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,959 Speaker 1: We talked about it and like the Derek attacks scene 734 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: about how Matt bar was really concerned with like everybody 735 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: else in the room. Yeah, but I think mostly people 736 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: are just concerned about the choreography of it. If nobody's 737 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: like you don't, I mean, that's another level to be 738 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: able to have the anger emotions but control them enough 739 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: to be able to maintain your choreography. I don't. I 740 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever had to do that. It's hard, 741 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: it is, it's tricky. I mean, look, you your job 742 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: is to personalize what is true for your character. Um, yeah, 743 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: but in moments when it's so fast. But what I 744 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: was going to say is sometimes it's easier to do 745 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: with your friends, and sometimes it's even harder. And yeah, 746 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: I think the thing that can be helpful, like you've 747 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: got to get in the feelings. But then yes, you 748 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: have to be conscious enough in the action to make 749 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: sure you're safe and that that requires a sort of 750 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: merger of like the art, the emotion and the technical. 751 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: And it's yes, it's intense. Yeah, it's hard. I've never 752 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: had to fight somebody that I didn't like, Like, I 753 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: don't know how I would do that because then you 754 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: then you like overcompensate and like like I don't want 755 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: to go too hard because I don't know if you 756 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: can hate them, you know, trying to think of it 757 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: how to fight somebody at the day. Yeah, what a 758 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: weird thing to have to do, just like I hate you, 759 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: just kidding, but yeah, it sucks. Yeah, I think it's 760 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting, isn't it to think about that now and go, oh, yeah, 761 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: we all I only really had to do that with 762 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: each other, and we had relationships. It would be weird 763 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: to show up on your you know, your first day 764 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: at work and have to fight somebody Like I had 765 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: to do a lot more of that working in Chicago. 766 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: I would meet people and be like, hey, what's up, 767 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna break your notes? So tremendously awkward. Um, 768 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: but no, you're right. I've never I have never had 769 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: to have a physical fight with another person who in 770 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: life I did not like. I have had to kiss 771 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: multiple people. Really grossed me out, And I don't know 772 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: what is worse. I honestly, I think the kissing is worse. 773 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: Worse for sure. I can't make up my mind. I 774 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: can't decide. Sometimes, like the people that you hate the most, 775 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: you end up like those kisses look the best, Like 776 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: oh that's true, I mean it's yeah, yeah, that's always 777 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: the best. When people are like god, they have great 778 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: chemistry and you're like, oh, that's not chemistry, that's pure 779 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: white hot rageing doubt write it. Yeah, fine, kiss me, 780 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: hidden love it. I love those I love doing stunt stuff. 781 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: I had to do a lethal weapon where I had 782 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: to there's like huge fans that like will hold your 783 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: body up like your skydiving and Clin Crawford and I 784 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: had to pretend like we were jumping out of a 785 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: building that exploded or something crazy, and you just you 786 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: have to run at full speed and then they flip 787 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: this thing on and it shoots your body up into 788 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: the air and you just have to trust it. Man. 789 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: That was crazy. Yeah, it was. I was a little 790 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: like this seemed like fun and theory, I'm gonna go 791 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: back to kissing and crying. Yeah, I remember being I 792 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: got to a point where I was like, maybe I 793 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: don't like stunts as much as I think I do. 794 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: When like I got really hurt, had to go to 795 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: the hospital and like get a cat scan and an 796 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: m R. I to make sure. I didn't like me 797 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: to be hospitalized. And then they were like, well they're clear, 798 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: so you've got to come back to work and finish 799 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: the day. And I was like, I'm I can't walk, um, yeah, okay, 800 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: And I just went back to work and I was like, 801 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know about this anymore. Maybe I need to 802 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: do things a little differently. I want a job like 803 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: the boys get when they get old, where they just 804 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: play angry cop and they sit around and they grunt. 805 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: And then they were these for it, bratchy cowboys. I 806 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: could sit on the back of a horse all day 807 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: and make faces. That's what I'm saying. I know you 808 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: don't want to spend a wheel. Let's do it, alright, kids, 809 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: Who is most likely to do TikTok dances with you? Guys? 810 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not not. I mean, I guess Brooke 811 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: at the time. If TikTok had been out, Brook probably 812 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: would have been doing bok and Rachel would have crushed TikTok. Yeah, 813 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: with those like hippie dances those girls do when they 814 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: make their hips looks like they're made out of like 815 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: ocean water. They're so they're just so water. Yeah. But 816 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: like in real life, who's doing them? You know what? 817 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: Barbara's daughters are going to say it? Yes, and I 818 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: feel like Barbara's into Barbara Good at social media. Yeah, 819 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: those girls, they are always on cool trips, hanging out 820 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: with their tribe of like loved ones, having the time 821 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: of their lives, looking gorgeous. Yeah, and it all started 822 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: being the Brady kids that Hayley baby said, he I 823 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: love it. Congratulations to our young ladies, Well thanks for 824 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: joining us. Wait what happens next episode? I really don't know, guys. 825 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: Next episode, Season four, episode eight, Nothing left to say, 826 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: but goodbye. They're always so dramatic. 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