1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: It is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus in 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We are going to do plenty of previewing 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: for Wee Gay. We're also going to talk to two 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks players, Uchenderwovsu and Miles Adams are joining us in 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes. Before we get to them, though, 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: time to look back at the Seahawks win over the Chargers, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: and guys, I gotta be honest a point to myself. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: I didn't see this one coming, certainly not at one point. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: At twenty one point lead over the Chargers. Seahawks end 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: up with one hundred and sixty eight yard day from 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Ken Walker. The defense looks good. Manages to contain the 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Chargers potentially explosive passing offense. I know that Justin Herbert 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: doesn't take a ton of deep shots, but he's perfectly 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: capable of taking the top off a defense, and instead 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the Seahawks walk out with a win, first place in 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the NFC. Wyman, I'll start with you, I mean, why 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: don't you steer us where we want to go? There's 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: so many places I could talk about with us. What 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: was one of your favorite things in this win that 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: you saw. Oh man, there were lots of things. You 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: guys played the clip where I couldn't contain myself. Oh 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: during the I have any four yard run by Ken Walker. 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I think that one. I think that one was was 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: really cool to see. The I was just on with 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: these guys in New York and they were talking about 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the tight end situation and like, um, you know, is 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: going to be a big problem without Dka if he 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: doesn't play, And I'm like, no, yeah, I think I 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: think my favorite thing was this Gino And I mentioned 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: two guys when we talked the other day that Gino 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: had five incompletions in the first quarter and then two 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. He was very efficient. And 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: that's why, Look, I'm not saying Decay is you need Decay. 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Decay's run blocking is fantastic. He's just a bully and intimidator. 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: But I think it's more about Geno Smith, you know. 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: And that's why the most valuable I think the two 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: of the most valuable stats for a quarterback are completion 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: percentage and interceptions, because touchdowns yardage you can't really necessarily control. 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: You could throw a three yard pass and it goes 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: for seventy or whatever. I don't think it's very indicative, 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: but the completion percentage and the interceptions and what is 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: that three now? And I think I think one of 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: them was like a last minute he maybe, yeah, I 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: think you're right. And then that one you could argue 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: that Tyler Lockett was interfered with. You know, that guy 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: got there early. So yeah, I really value those things. 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: I think just coming out of that, that and the defense, 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I felt like the defense, I've been saying it all week. 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: They attacked gaps. They knew what their gaps were before 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: the ball snapped. They they're not going to tell us that, 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: but I think that's what was the difference. So we'll see. 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: We talked to Ray yesterday or two days ago, Big 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Ray Roberts. He said he thinks that also the D 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: line is aligning a lot closer to the line of 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: scrimmage that they were kind of off before so they 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: could read things and now I think they're just you know, 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: pitting their ears back and hitting gaps. I was going 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to ask about that because Pete Carroll and his press 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: conferences this week has been asked, you know, what's different, 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: what's working, And he said that they've just been more 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: aggressive up front and that could mean a number of things. 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Is that what you're seeing too, that's part of it, 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: being aggressive upfront, lined up closer and getting on an 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman right now. And that was beautiful to see. 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: And it's really apparent on the their charter second to 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: last drive, So third and five you got Nuosu, Quentin, Shelby, 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: and Bruce Irving. And what Quentin and Jarvison do right 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: now is they shoot the A gaps right now, so 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: they make that center and the guards have to condense 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: right now, and it pretty much isolates the guys on outside. 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: It reminds me of a route concept because sometimes you know, I, 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: as a slot, your job is an occupy guy, so 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: the outside guys get open. And that's what I saw 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: right there. They pinched in and occupy those guys and 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: allowed the outside dudes to work. And then they're just relentless, man. 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: They're just going and going and going. So it's, um, 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: that's what we see. I'm sure when they're in the 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: film room and they're they're getting their coaching points is 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot deeper than that. But the defense definitely looked 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: more aggressive. Speaking of being relentless. That was kind of 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Kenn Walker. Right. You finished with one hundred and sixty 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: plus rushing yards, and you were just unstoppable over the 83 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: points of the day. And it's not just one big 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: gain or two big gains. It was turning what could 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: have been a five yard loss into a two yard gain. Right, 86 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: little things like that. What do you see from him 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: when you watch him? That's a good point I thought 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: he had. We used to say that about Marshaun Yeah, 89 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: you know that. That was the most spectacular two yard 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: run I've ever seen. And it's interesting because there's such 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: different running backs. Yeah, and so that's that's the thing. 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: I think he's still trying to learn, Like a couple 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: of times. Really, the most impressive one I thought I 94 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: did a football one on one thing on this was 95 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: the first run because he let Damian Lewis set up 96 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: his block and then he hits the gas and there's 97 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: just a hallway right there. So a hallway of gray 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: butts is what I call it, or whatever color uniform 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: they're wearing that day, because you see their turner go 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: hallway of action green butts, the action green on those 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. Yeah, that's a that's a lot of actually green, 102 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: but but no, you know, that's the thing. They got 103 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: their guys sealed. It was just like a perfect all 104 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 1: the way if you look at it from the end zone. 105 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: And so that that part, I think you mentioned that 106 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: he's he's getting positive yardage. I think he's still trying 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Um, there's a couple of times 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: where he'll stutter in the backfield and I'm like, you 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: can't do that. Yeah, he's you know, and then and 110 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: then he cuts it back and so I mean, I'm 111 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: not coaching him. You know, do what you're doing. It's 112 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: it's working for him. I think that he's learning as 113 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: he goes, So that that part is is really cool. 114 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: But where do you see some of those learning moments? 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Like where do you see areas? Because do you guys 116 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: remember when Pete Carroll said he's still figuring some stuff out. 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: I remember wondering, oh, is he cooling on him as 118 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: he saying something bad, And really he was just being honest. 119 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: He's saying he's a rookie. That's exactly what it is. 120 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: Rookie's got to figure stuff out, and I'll watch him 121 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: run I go. He probably should have been more patient there. Oh, 122 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: he's got to hit that one, you know. I mean, 123 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: so it's like him learning the tempo because he has 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: to learn the office alignment, you know what I mean. 125 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the alignment have to learn him so much. Alignment. 126 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: I look, I got this guy I'm pulling. I'm knocking 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: him out. You read off of what I'm doing. So 128 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I see him just learning the temple the game. When 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: to press the issue whin and look for the home run. 130 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: That's what the great ones do. But he's learning. And 131 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: he went for a buck sixty seven and two touchdowns 132 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: but along at seventy four. So if he's learning and 133 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: putting up those numbers, I think he's had in the 134 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: right direction. It's funny going into that game. Um, I 135 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: looked up who's the who has the most single game 136 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: yardage and it was Austin Eckler. He had one hundred 137 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and seventy four yards against the Cleveland Browns three four 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: games ago. And now Kenneth Walker's number two with one 139 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: sixty eight. So and they held the Chargers to fifty 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: two fifty three yards rushing. So that was that was 141 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: pretty those two the combination of those two things for 142 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: the you know, running the ball is just key and 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: Gino doesn't you know, through it twenty seven times, two 144 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards two touchdowns. But yeah, the run game, 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: and you're right, bombite I'm doing the same time. I'm like, no, 146 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: don't do that. I'm like, oh wait, yeah, that was good. 147 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: It's funny if it weren't dead like he yeah he is, 148 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: he is. Figure it out. I think you're right. I 149 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: think Pete did say that about him, so that, uh, 150 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that part is is really fun to watch. And I 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't even heard from Ken Walker yet. 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him or interviewed him or anything, 153 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: but he sure seems like, you know, just a great kid. 154 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: In these rookies, man, it's it's phenomenal because it's pretty 155 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: hard to play running back in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I think more rookies probably at that position excel. But 157 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: it's really hard to play offensive tackle, especially when you're 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: facing Khalil Mack and JJ Watt and Marcus Golden back 159 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: to back, which, by the way, the only only guy 160 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: that got a sack of those three players over the 161 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: last two weeks was Marcus Golden, which is also a 162 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: testament to the offensive line, and especially for those were 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: two rookie tackles. Yeah, well that's yeah, that's what I'm 164 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: talking that, the tack of the tackles. I mean, the 165 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: guys on the edge that they're having a block are 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: just like Cameron Jordan got two sacks. I mean, that 167 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: guy's one of them. I felt was Gino Geno, maybe 168 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: cover sex do you don't have to hold onto it? 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, yeah he should have. He should have 170 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: got rid of that one. But yeah, those two guys, 171 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and it's really hard playing corner in the NFL. You 172 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 1: got to cover. You talk about some of the biggest 173 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: like freakish athletes, they're well defensive ends or receivers in 174 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: the way that wide receivers are going bump. And I 175 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: were just saying, so we were reading this article, talking 176 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: about this article during our show earlier, saying that basically 177 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: play in the NFL was just bad this year and 178 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: that's why we were seeing so much parody. And we 179 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: were like, you know, rather than saying it's bad, I 180 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: think what you're seeing is just a lot of different 181 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: factors at play at once, and one of them was 182 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: the immediate impact of wide receivers. It used to be 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: that it would take wide receivers a couple of years 184 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: to catch on to the NFL. And now you're seeing 185 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: like every other college as wide receiver, you they send 186 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: in guys and you're seeing Jamar Chase and you're you 187 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: know what I mean, You're seeing guys that are immediately 188 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: getting They're getting twelve hundred yards as rookies, and you're thinking, 189 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: why what's going on here? Like you can turn a 190 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: fourth place team into a first place team if you 191 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: get this difference maker that teams just don't know how 192 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: to cover. It's a good point. Yeah, did you feel 193 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: that way, Bump? I mean I think yeah for wide receivers, 194 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Like the landmarks are different from college football, the numbers 195 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: are in different place as you got wider hash marks. 196 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: And then you know in the NFL, like if you 197 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: have to run a five and a half yard you know, 198 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: sliant or whatever, it better be five and a half. 199 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Ye it can't be six, it can't be five. You know, 200 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: it's very exact the route running. And yeah, the fact 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,119 Speaker 1: that that receivers are kind of tearing it up is surprising. 202 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: They're bigger, faster, stronger, smarter. They've gotten smarter than you 203 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: way more reiver plan. I was a smart, smart receiver. 204 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: But the reps that these kids get in the resources 205 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: that they get, and then he got guys like me 206 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: coaching them up. You know what I'm saying. So it's 207 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: like mentally they'll be ready to go. All right, I 208 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: know that we've just been talking a lot about Ken 209 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Walker and the offense and the offensive line and receivers. 210 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna switch and do a bit of defensive talk, 211 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: but we'll have some special guests. How about Uchener and 212 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Wosu joining us first to talk about what the Seahawks 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: defense has been able to do already this season and 214 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the challenge they have against the run happy Giants. That's 215 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: coming up next on the huddle. All right, you are 216 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and 217 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Stacy Ross Seahawks practice. It is wrapping up, So we'll 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: be joined in just one moment by Yu Chenna Nwosu, 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and let's get started by talking about Nuosu and this 220 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: defensive front. Obviously, Seahawks switched to a three four defense. 221 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: They played a four three defense with what Pete Carol 222 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: would say or three four principles. So it wasn't a 223 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: drastic change at least that's what the coaching staff assured 224 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: us of all off season. But what we saw was 225 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: a very slow and very hectic start to the season 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks defense. They seem to have figured it out. 227 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how permanent it's going to be, but 228 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: they've made some big steps forward here, and one of 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: them is against the run. So Dave you talked about 230 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: talking with was it Ray Roberts who said he's noticed 231 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: just like better play, specifically upfront, with guys being more aggressive. 232 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: What else have you seen from the defense? Yeah, that's 233 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I think that they're more sure. They 234 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: looked unsure, and yeah, that was Do you guys remember 235 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the movie Idiocracy where he accidentally gets named unsure. That's 236 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: his name anyway, that I was looking at like, there's 237 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: like four guys unsure. I'm sure you know, And I 238 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: look at you ask these guys and they'll just say, well, 239 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: we just got it together and we're playing together. And 240 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I get that, and I think, I think what it 241 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: is is that your gap is established before the ball snaps, 242 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: which is the way I remember playing. And I think 243 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had it that way last year and they 244 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: were trying to I would say this bump, you would know. Um. 245 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: I think sometimes defensive coordinators will try to come up 246 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: with a defense that stops everything, and there's no such thing, 247 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: you know. And so I've seen, you know there, I've 248 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: been in a couple of meeting rooms where you go 249 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: with the what if, like, well, what if they do this, 250 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and the coach says, well, if they do that, then 251 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: we'll probably gonna get beat and you're gonna have to 252 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: be aware, be aware of the things that will beat you. 253 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: But like, for the most part, let's just make sure 254 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: everybody is sure about where they're going. And I feel 255 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: like that's what happened. That's probably put very simply, and 256 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure Clint Hurt and the coaches would say, well, 257 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, this, that and the other. But you know, 258 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: we're not able to be in there in the meeting room, 259 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: so we don't know exactly what it is. But that's 260 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of what it looks like to me. But you know, 261 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that they have great personnel on defense. I mean, 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor is just a fantastic pass rusher. You saw 263 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: it and I feel like he just hasn't had an 264 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to get on the edge and you know, beat 265 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: somebody around the edge. You had three sacks, now, I think, yeah, yeah, 266 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: So I mean for a while they were thinking, hey, 267 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, because he had six and a half last year, 268 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, where's it coming from. So it's starting 269 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: to starting to come around. Chenna, I think has three sacks, 270 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and he's got a bunch of knockdowns and fumble recoveries 271 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: and force fumbles. So yeah, they're starting to I think 272 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: they have the personnel to do it. I think the 273 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: one guy that had the personnel to do or I'm 274 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: sorry that was like fit that personnel to play what 275 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: they were playing, was Al Woods because he's just a monster. 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: He just can take on people. And you know, there 277 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: was a play against the Saints where one guy came 278 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: to block him. It's like he just throws him to 279 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the ground. Next guy comes, he throws him to the 280 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: ground and then makes a tackle. You know, he's just 281 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: a I can't say enough about Outwoods, yeah, and what 282 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: he means to that defense. But but I think this 283 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: guy who Chennak, who also means a lot also, he's 284 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: really I like his leadership. I like like at the 285 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: end where they were doing the kneel down against the 286 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Saints and hu Chenna wasn't having it. He was like, 287 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hard. You better strap it up. And 288 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: I know guys in the NFL don't like that. I 289 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: like it. I like it because I think he's he's 290 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: got like a nastiness and an edge to him. Same 291 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: thing when he when he smoked Jimmy g and got 292 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: up and Jimmy was chirping at the official and he 293 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: was I don't know what he was saying, but I 294 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: my thought, bubble, you know over his head, was like, hey, 295 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: grow up, this is the NFL. You know you're gonna 296 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: get hit. So that's that. I think he brings that 297 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: that kind of attitude. What do you guys make of 298 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: stopping with scoring that? Now? This is less related to 299 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and more related with like maybe an old 300 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: school mentality. You're kind of like a tough mentality. But 301 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: when the Bears took a knee rather than drive it 302 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: into the end zone in Foxbro on Monday Night Football 303 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: earlier this week, would you have, if you were coached, 304 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: called for them to complete the touchdown? Nah, taking knee 305 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: in that situation, I think the game is a gentleman's 306 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: agreement with the game. What type of respect do you 307 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: have for the coach? Were there too, Like he's a 308 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: guy I respect, then yeah. But if this guy who 309 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, we have got some bad blood, we've had 310 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: a couple of bears and you said some things I 311 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: didn't like, you know, then maybe. But I think the 312 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: classic thing to do would be to take the knee. 313 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh would would go for it, definitely. Yeah. He's 314 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: somebody that a lot of guys surround the league don't 315 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: really care for. But you know, I think the worst 316 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: thing you could do is go for a you know, 317 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: you could run out the clock and you go for 318 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: it and one of your guys gets hurt, right, Yeah, 319 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: So that's probably the thing that would hold me back. 320 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Do you think Carol would go for it. I don't know. 321 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think so. I don't think so. Yeah, 322 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I know he can be 323 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: aggressive in some ways, whether it's taking risks challenges which 324 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: I know some people don't like, but like he's risky sometimes, 325 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: but he's not he is not always usc Carol, which 326 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: would be, which would have been like, just do it. 327 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: I like drop sixty. Yeah, that's true, that's true. I 328 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: like how Pete handles the officials. You know, he's pretty 329 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: aggressive with them, and you know it's funny. Austin Blythe 330 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: who just the nicest guy, soft spoken, super intelligent. He 331 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: was miked up a couple of weeks ago and he 332 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: was all over the officials and it brought back good 333 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: memories for me because I used to wear the officials 334 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: out and then afterwards I would I would put my 335 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: arm around him and say, you know, thanks man, nice job. 336 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: They were there to help you. But you know, that's 337 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: what I love about the officials is that they don't 338 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: have these egos like officials from other sports. They just 339 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: the umpires. I told a guy one time to get 340 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: the bleep out of my huddle, and because we were talking. 341 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: I was yelling because I was being held on the 342 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: field goal block and he comes in there. He's like, Dave, 343 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: So what's going on. I'm like, get the bleep out 344 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: of here. You know what he did. He put his 345 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: hands up, he had a big smile on his face. 346 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, okay, we'll talk later. And so I 347 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: went over to him after that, like, you know, maybe 348 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: a quarter later and I go, hey, I'm sorry, man, 349 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: it's just that, you know, this is what's happening and 350 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and he's like, okay, i'll look for it, 351 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: no problem. I love that about those guys. I'll tell 352 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: you another one. Stay another one. I had a guy 353 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: who was his name was Wagoner I think Bob Wagner, 354 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: and I used to get him all the time. He 355 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: was number double zero when he was a big dude. 356 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: Someone wore double zero. Yeah, one of the officials. I'm 357 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: talking about a player, No, no, this was and he 358 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: was always he's standing behind me, so I was always 359 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: like chirping at him, and you know, and I'd be 360 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: like putting him, you know, get get out of the way. 361 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I was getting tackled. So I go, hey, 362 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: you know I'm getting mugged over here, and he goes, well, 363 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: I'll watch out for it. And I'm like, yeah, I'm 364 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: starting to get starting to get used to it. And 365 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: he's like, oh that hurts man joining us right now 366 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: such in a congratulations on your team's win over the Chargers. 367 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: But maybe this is just something that media says that 368 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: means nothing to players, But did it feel kind of 369 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: good to get a win over a former team? I 370 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: sure do, Sure do. Let's go I like that at 371 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: each other. We talked to you last week and you said, 372 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of guys will give the 373 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: the politically correct answer like no, just another game. You're like, 374 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: oh no, I got a little a little bit of 375 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: kick out of that one. Definitely. Yeah. How was it 376 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: being back home? Yeah? Family? Do you see family when 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: you're out there? You went there? After the game? Do 378 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: you not see family? How do you approach that? Oh? 379 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Of course I see the fan. Yeah, I got to, 380 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: uh during pregame. My mom comes down where I'm warming 381 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: up at, you know, give her a hug after the game. 382 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: See all the family in the family section. Um yeah, 383 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: de family has definitely got to see them when I'm back. Yeah, 384 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: that's school. You grow up down there, You went to 385 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: high school there, went to USC so coming up here, 386 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: so you're you're a lifetime West Coast guy anyway. But 387 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, So how many people did you get? 388 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Did you have to get tickets and stuff like that? 389 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: I got about fifteen? Yeah. Wow? Yeah, nice get set 390 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: up And it was a win too, right. I mean, 391 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of your family are fans 392 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: of the Chargers, but I was like, well, I don't know, 393 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: well because then it was well, no, it wasn't San Diego, 394 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: not for the entire time anything. I saw all these 395 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: number ten jersey's in the crowd, and I was like, 396 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: oh sweet, and then I'm like, oh that's Herbert and yeah, 397 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the less impressive. Maybe in Seattle you'll see ten. But 398 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: have you seen anyone with a ten? Yeah? Here in Seattle? 399 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Really yeah, seen a couple. Do you ever think to 400 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: go up and be like, hey, yeah, do you have 401 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: you done it? Hey? Like the people who I got 402 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: my jerseys? Yeah? Yeah? What did they do? It's like, 403 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, say thank you, yeah, purchasing 404 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: my jersey number? That means a lot. Has anyone from right? 405 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever not initially recognized you, like in the stands? No, 406 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Like when you go up and they've got a ten 407 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: jersey and you're like, hey, man, what's up? Are they 408 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: ever like? Who? We? Nah? Because I mean, you got 409 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: my jerseys and I got many of them. You gotta 410 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: know who I am. I got my jersey? Man? You 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: guys had two big plays at the end of the game. 412 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: There was a third and five where you guys got 413 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: the sackle on Herbert to force him into a fourth 414 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: and Mike fourteen and then Mike Jack makes a player 415 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: on Mike Williams. Man, what are those moments like that 416 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: on the field where you like, we pretty much just 417 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: won this game. Go ahead and take your bus to 418 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the sideline. It's a great feeling, you know, when everybody's 419 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: just playing together, playing team defense, you come up with 420 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: big players like this, something we preached about all weekend 421 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: in practice. You know, it's good to see it come 422 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: to life in those settings. So you know, we're just 423 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: trying to get better every week, and every time we 424 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: make those plays, we gotta be able to celebrate it, 425 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, because football is a hard game and hard 426 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: to make plays like that, so we gotta make sure 427 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: we have fun. Were you surprised that they didn't use 428 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: Eckler as much in the run game? Yeah, I thought 429 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: they were gonna run the ball a little bit more 430 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: considering how we've been like the first couple of weeks 431 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: of the season. But you know, they got a quarterback 432 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: justin Herbert, you know, so when things get tough, you 433 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: gotta go to him. Yea. They definitely used Herbert equally 434 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: in the passing game. Were out though with the screens 435 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: and check it down. So hey, So I just talked 436 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: to these two guys in New York and they really 437 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: like their team, and they were kind of like, you know, 438 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: what's going on with you out there in Seattle and 439 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, like it's this sustainable and things like that. 440 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Do you guys get a sense for that? Like nobody 441 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: really thought that this this team was going to be 442 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: first place in the NFC West at any point. Yeah, 443 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: we love that, you know, when people doubt you, you know, 444 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: and you turn around and make them look silly, you know, 445 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: we love that. You know. That's so we just try 446 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: to try to keep getting better, keep going. So you know, 447 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: at the end of these thing we're the ones, you 448 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: know that's on the top, you know. So let people 449 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: say what they want, thing what they want. We just 450 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: can keep our head now and keep grinding. I would 451 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: imagine it's pretty validating though, because Bumping I interviewed you. 452 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: You probably don't remember, Bumping I interviewed you during training 453 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: camp and we asked you a similar questions. So this 454 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: is before the season started, We're like, hey, how Seattle, 455 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Hey, people are doubting, you know you 456 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: guys without Russell Wilson here and you know, without Bobby Wagner, 457 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and you were like great, let him down. And now 458 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: here we are talking to you week eight, heading into 459 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: week eight when it's like, so, hey, channat you guys, 460 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: our first place in the NFC West. How does it feel? Yeah, 461 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be really validating kind of 462 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: like how do you keep that belief going in and building? 463 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: Is it like positive energy? Is it? What's it like? 464 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: It's definitely positive energy. You know, like everybody's coming into 465 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the meetings all hyped up, amped up, everybody's happy, everybody. 466 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, we're just just trying to keep keep the energy, 467 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: keep the spirit alive. And you know when you got 468 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: coaches doing it, you got the head coach, you know, 469 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: celebrating and you know, giving speeches and dancing. You know, 470 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: just positive energy that keeps everybody going. So that's gonna 471 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: be big for the team going forward. And you just 472 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: love to see it. I heard Pete Carroll say he's 473 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: allowing guys like you, actually pointing you out to take 474 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: more chances on defensively to me, I just imagine you, Okay, 475 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: I got my assignment, but if I see something, I'm 476 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: able to go get it. It is that what that means? 477 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: And how does that feel to get that trust from 478 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: Pete to say all right, chin man, you go ahead 479 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: and do your thing. Yeah. Um, anytime a coach has 480 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: that confidence to you, you know, it just it just 481 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: ensures you that you can, you know, be who you 482 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: really are. Um, of course, you know he says take chances. 483 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: But you know, in the scheme of the defense, don't 484 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: just go out there and be like a well we 485 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: use a term Fredo. I don't know if you guys 486 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: watch Godfather, but Fredo, we use that term aloss. So 487 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: don't be a traitor, you know, but do your job, 488 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, just uh, you know, when you see something, 489 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: go ahead and make your play, all right, all right? 490 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: He is the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, you guys are are 491 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: finally getting the defense on track. You've had a phenomenal 492 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: start to the season throughout the entirety of it. It's 493 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: probably nice to finally be able to feel like everything's 494 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: coming together though for everyone. So thank you so much 495 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: for joining us. We appreciate it. We know you just 496 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: wrap practice, so we'll let you go get food, rest, relax, 497 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: take it easy before this tough game at Lumen. Yeah, 498 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys, Thanks so much. All right, Miles Adams 499 00:22:48,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: is next on the huddle. Don't go anywhere. You are 500 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bambas, Stacy 501 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: Ross and Miles Adams joining us right now. Miles, how 502 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing great. I cannot complain. How are you? 503 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm great? You have Nshawn was telling you this a 504 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: very relaxing voice, and it's been decided you should do 505 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: like call map, maybe radio, anything like that in your future. 506 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Would would you ever do anything in voice work after football? 507 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I've actually done voice was it voice acting lessons? Yeah, 508 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: with Bruce Carey Bran props his school and I want 509 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: to kind of do it keep David type deal in 510 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: the future. That's awesome. That's up. So you went to Rice. 511 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: I did so. I was a high school coach for 512 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: ten years. You're not just getting into Rice. You gotta 513 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: have grades. Um, so, academics is probably huge in your 514 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: life grown up definitely. Mom drove that into me, you know, 515 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: making the a beyond a role competing great stuff like that. 516 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: So I gotta have the grades to get into race. 517 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: What you study at kinesiology sports medicine, there we go. 518 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: So does that help you with your maintaining your body 519 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: during the the NFL, because that's that's something that I 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: think at least when I played, we didn't pay much attention, 521 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't I used to eat like terrible macaroni and cheese 522 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and beer. You know that kind of thing. Bud sounds 523 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: too bad, It's okay when you're twenty four. I just 524 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it was good for me. But um yeah, 525 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: so all of that kind of stuff is a little 526 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: bit because that's really important, right, taking taking care of 527 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: your body during the season. What has it helped you with? 528 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: I mean, how has it helped you? No, it definitely 529 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: helped a lot because I started out as a sports 530 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: management major and then I dealt with some surgeries and 531 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: it just made me think about wanting to have more 532 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: and to learn about my body, learn about you know, 533 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: taking football series how to recover, and that's really been 534 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: really been a beneficial. Um, you guys have taken a 535 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: huge step forward as a defense this year. I know 536 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't the start of the season. You wanted U 537 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: and it was hard to pinpoint what was wrong. Plenty 538 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: of talent in the building and just things weren't coming together. 539 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: That's changed, especially over the last two weeks. Does it 540 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: feel like there's anything different happening. The energy is a 541 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: little different, shifting a little bit, and I think we're 542 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: trusting each other more. Yeah, find around a little bit faster. 543 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: It just comes with the knowledge of the game, speed 544 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: of the game, really familiated in the system, making the 545 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: corrections a week to week. And because you know the 546 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: games that we did lose in the yards we gave 547 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: up and stuff with the defense, it wasn't a lot 548 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: of things that the teams were doing us. We were 549 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: kind of beating ourselves, self inflictive exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna 550 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: take you back. Undrafted free agent. I was an undrafted 551 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: free agent, and so I saw you making plays, and 552 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm rooting for the underdogs. Was there a 553 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: moment where you were making plays You're like, oh, yeah, 554 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: I made the squad. I'm feeling good about what I'm 555 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: doing right now now. At first, I just wanted to 556 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know, saying really recognize real. But 557 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: if there was ever a point, I mean I did 558 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: feel like I played pretty good in Dallas home game, 559 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: but it was more so that Jews from being back 560 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: in Texas. Um I didn't feel like I Um I was. 561 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: I was in the same boat as everybody else. I 562 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: just want to take it and put my stuff on 563 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: tape and lit. There was those people this sale and 564 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a stressful position to being an undraftful 565 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: edge because you never really know. You show up every day, 566 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: and um I was wanna say, man, congratulations, Man, keep 567 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: doing your thing. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, 568 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: they're in the preseason. They always have guys that they 569 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: don't want us on the radio to pump up too much. 570 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: And you were one of those guys. And but we 571 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: couldn't not call your name. I mean Dallas was like, yeah, 572 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: you you played well in Pittsburgh. I mean this preseason. 573 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Is there something that you can identify that just clicked 574 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: for you because you you were just all you were 575 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: just you look confident and you're making plays everywhere. Was 576 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: there was there any a play or something somebody said 577 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: to you that that kind of clicked. I'd say more 578 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: so just getting elevated last season and being ever to 579 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: play really my first game as a divisional game against 580 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: the Rams last year. That's my first regular season action, 581 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: and I guess it all clipped for me. I realized 582 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: it's all relative. Any given Sunday kind of mentality, anybody 583 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: can get the work. Can you take yourself back to 584 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: that moment and remember specific things where you thought, oh 585 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: my god, this is really happening, or like anything standout 586 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: where you think this has been one of my favorite 587 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: moments in the NFL so far this year, Maybe not 588 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: from that game, but just in general. Well, it was 589 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: a fact about that game. Their center Brian Allen was 590 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl alternate center, which is pretty good, and 591 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: I'll be pretty good against them, so you kind of 592 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: feel good about myself a little bit. That's probably a 593 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: moment I was like, yeah, I can do this. Yeah man, 594 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: we've we've seen this defense turning around the last couple 595 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: of weeks and it's been fun to watch. And I 596 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: watched film and I always try to figure out what 597 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: type of player this guy is, what his role is, 598 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: especially the big boys, because you guys don't get a 599 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: lot of love. It's just like the linebackers and dvs 600 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: a skill guys. So if you have to describe your 601 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: role in this defense to just the average fan listening, 602 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: how would you do it. I'm a guy that's gonna 603 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: come in and uh hopefully, uh there's no drop off. 604 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: You know, I come in off the bench. You know, 605 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: I have some great, great role models ahead of me, 606 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: you know on the Punafords, Clinton Jefferson's Al Woods, and 607 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, Shelby Harris is in the room. So as 608 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: a young guy come in when they need their blow, 609 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: I come in and pick right up with their left off. 610 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: Who's a sort of I would say Shelby would be 611 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: my prediction. Who's the funniest dude in that room or 612 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: kind of the clown of the room. No, definitely, LJ 613 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: O l really chev is a close second. But I 614 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know, y'all, don't lj is hilarious, that's funny. Well, 615 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: I've talked to him a couple of times, and I 616 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: guess that didn't really come through. But and then Big Al. 617 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: You know the story with Big Al, like he has 618 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: a ranch back home. Yeah yeah, yeah, farms his own 619 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: land everything. Yeah, that real real country spirit. I feel 620 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: them with that because my family is from East Texas, 621 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: so oh yeah some of the background. Yeah, so you 622 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: get some some cool personalities in there. You guys hang 623 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: out off the field or have little get togethers or 624 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, they're trying to recruit me to 625 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: go to one hunted house today. I don't know if 626 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: i'm Are you not a big like scary movie or 627 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: a haunted house person? Yeah, answer horror. Is it because 628 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: it's scarier? You're like, this is dumb. No, it's scary 629 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: because I get genuinely scared. I'm scared scared. Yeah, Okay. 630 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: One good thing about Halloween candy. We were just ranking 631 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: our top candies without spoiling and saying ours. We all 632 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: have the same one. I think, what would be your 633 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: number one Halloween candylate chocolate? All right, that is unfortunately 634 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: not the correct answer. Sorry, Kats a great Kickcat's a 635 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: great answer. I had Ruese's Cups TwixT would be in 636 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: there second. That's as long as it's in there. Well, um, 637 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: I kind of hope you go to the haunted house now, 638 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: Like it's like I just wanted to. I'm imagining like 639 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: just like big strong dudes being like I'm not messing 640 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: with that I'm not doing it, but they can be. 641 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: They can be kind of fun. Is it maybe that 642 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: you don't see. Here's what I don't like people to 643 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: startle me, Like, yeah, my wife and my kids know 644 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: not to jump out and do something because all like swing, yes, 645 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: or I will like react and like yeah, jump scared. 646 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: That's why I don't like I can do hore Gore. 647 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: I can do thrillers, suspense, yeah, but jump scares. Yeah. 648 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I can't do paranormal like I could. I could watch 649 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: um Saw or like any of the creepy ones. I 650 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: can't do, like, hey, there's a demon in the house, 651 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: because you think, what if there is? What am I 652 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? There's a video of I can't. I can't 653 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: mess with it? All right, we have to let you go. 654 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm really quick though. There's a video of a guy 655 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: who has like a pumpkin on his head and he's 656 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: sitting on a porch like it's a straw man and 657 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: a guy walks past it and the thing the guy 658 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: on in the chair jumps up and the dude just 659 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: turns swing. I'm like, I'm always afraid that's what I'm 660 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna do. And then you know you're gonna hit somebody one. 661 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to incriminate myself, but I just know 662 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: I feel him on that. Yeah, all right, h Miles, 663 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna let you get out of here. We appreciate 664 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: taking the time. It's been so nice talking to you. 665 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Finally for for us meeting you this year and getting 666 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 1: a chance, and Dave got you those barbecue places. So 667 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: good luck with us. Mike Wise's mutual thank you guys 668 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: for opportunity. Thank you so much. All Right, you guys, 669 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: do not go anywhere. We're gonna hear from Gino Smith 670 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: at the podium. Next. This is the huddle. This is 671 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: the huddle, Gino Smith speaking from the podium. Right now. 672 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: We'll take you there. Yeah. I think it starts with, um, 673 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, with playing complimentary football. Um, obviously you don't 674 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: want to turn the ball over early in games. You 675 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: don't want to turn the ball over at all. But 676 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: our defense did a great job going out there and 677 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: they got to stop you know, on fourth down, gave 678 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: us the ball and then back to back turnovers. So 679 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: really three turnovers in the road to start the game. 680 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think that set us up for success 681 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: and a big part of an offense is rewarding your 682 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: defense when they do those things. You know, when they 683 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: go out and they're playing like that, you gotta reward 684 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: those guys, and you got to score points give them 685 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: the confidence they need to continue to play like that 686 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: and continue to play hard and have that edge and 687 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: have that swaggering. So I think we did a tremendous 688 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: job of that last week, and we just got to 689 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: continue that. Call yourself a big play offense so far. 690 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: So far we made a lot of big plays, and 691 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: we like to be an explosive offense, yes, but we 692 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: also want to be a fishing offense and we want 693 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: to do well in the situations as well, the third 694 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: downs in the red zone, and so it's all collective, man. 695 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: We just gotta put it all together. And we got 696 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: explosive players all over the place. Guys are making plays. 697 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: The offensive line is giving us time to hit those 698 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: plays and opening up holes in the run game. And 699 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: so we can be a big play offense if we 700 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: continue what we're doing. Chargers last week, giants down. What 701 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: are these games being? Three? Personally? Just another game, Uh, 702 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, an opportunity to go out there with my teammates, 703 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: my brothers, Uh, to fight, to compete. You know. Obviously 704 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: I was with those franchises and they did well by me. 705 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have any remorse to anything, just 706 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to going out there and competing again the Giants. 707 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: You know what short lived. I was only there for 708 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: really a year, so it wasn't really much time. But UM, 709 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: you know what I can say is, you know, I 710 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there, had an opportunity to learn and grow. UH. 711 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Was able to be under Coach McAdoo and mister Jerry Reece, 712 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: whom you know I owe a lot too. And then um, 713 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: obviously being able to be with in the same room 714 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: with Eli Manning UH and learning from him and learning 715 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: with him and competing with him was awesome, you know, 716 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: just to be a part of that for a year. 717 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: What do you remember about the start you made for 718 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: the Giants in twenty eighteen and all the circumstances around that. 719 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I was against Oakland, was against the Raiders. Familiar face 720 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Bruce Irvin was on the opposite side. Khalil Mack was 721 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: also out there as well, and UM, you know, it 722 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: was just a chance for me to go out there 723 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: and show what I got, you know, it was one 724 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: one game. Obviously there was a lot um of you know, 725 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: speculation and stuff surrounding that game. But for me, it 726 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: was just, you know, like I've always been, you know, 727 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: just focused on the game. I didn't really get caught 728 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: up in anything else. What was your relationship like with 729 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: Eli Manning? That was an odd time in his career. 730 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: I've been saying it was here in the end of it. Yeah, 731 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: Eli was great. Eli was great. I had met Eli 732 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Um actually prior to that. We were training together in 733 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: California and we were throwing stuff together and so we 734 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: had a relationship already. I had. I met him. I 735 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: went down to the Manning camp when I was in 736 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: college and so developed a relationship with Peyton, Eli, Archie, Cooper, 737 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: all those guys, and you know, it was it was good. 738 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, it was a good time for me when 739 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: I was there. What's up? What's Marquis out of guys 740 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks? If you got him a lot more 741 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: into all the things. Uh, you know Mark keith Um, 742 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: he gives us that explosive threat down the field. Um, 743 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: he's also you know, got got a lot of ability 744 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: to run, you know, different routes and uh, you know, 745 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: he can be a gadget guy. He can do a 746 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: bunch of things. Um, he's tremendously uh, you know, just 747 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: well rounded in his game and the things he can do. 748 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: And so he's given us an added element of speed. Uh. 749 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: He also gives us just another weapon in the past 750 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: game as well as another threat, another D threat. You know, 751 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: the defenses they've got to account for him as well 752 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: with the other guys we got as well. How much 753 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: of his impact on Sunday was out of necessity and 754 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: not having DK there versus Marquis's just being more comfortable 755 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: in the system and with you, Yeah, I think, you know, 756 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: some of it was necessity. And you know early on, 757 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, DK was there, he caught that touchdown and 758 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: uh did a great job. And um, you know he's 759 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: he's our you know, third guy. And then we have 760 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: D coming as well as a third guy, and um, 761 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: they give us, you know, great mismatches. You know, you 762 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: you put linebackers safeties on those guys, they can win. 763 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: You put your third corner on them, they can win. 764 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: You single them out one on one, they can win. 765 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: And then when DK went down, Marquis stepped up and 766 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: no one blinked you know, no one blinked and I 767 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: and and Marquis stepped up and made a few more 768 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: great plays for us. And he just brings that to 769 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the table as well as the other guys. You know, 770 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: they all have an opportunity to step up now, and 771 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: so I look forward to it. There was a video 772 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: that children Marquis saying that you change the one touchdown 773 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of a the line Marquis was maybe gonna run, 774 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: run and run, I guess and you told me just 775 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: to just go. Are you looking for those kind of 776 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: situations with Marquis when you got that, Yeah, you know, 777 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: with all the guys, and those are situations we practice 778 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: every single day. Um, we talk about those things in 779 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: the meeting rooms, and when those situations come up in 780 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: the game, Uh, they understand exactly what we're trying to 781 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: get done. And that was an example of that that 782 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: work for a touchdown and shure you change, I mean, 783 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: we do, you know, we do we gotta do to 784 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: make the place work. And uh, you know, it's obviously 785 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: it's a you know, a thing with me and Shane 786 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: and and and Austin and all the guys where we're 787 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: just trying to get into the best play possible just 788 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: being an efficient offense and move the ball verbal or 789 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: is that nonverbal? Was that I can be verbal, it 790 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: can be non verbal. It kind of just depends on 791 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: the situation and which play we're changing. The Giant don't 792 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of size of the cornerback position. If 793 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: DK isn't able to go, obviously don't know that at 794 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: this point. Where's your confidence level at with Dreke Young, 795 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: Steven AGAs, Yeah, I'm very confident in Drek. We've got 796 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: a ton of reps together already. We were playing a 797 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: lot in the preseason together, and so you know, he 798 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: and I have spent a bunch of time just talking 799 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: over things and trying to help him get up a 800 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: speed because I really believe in his ability. And so 801 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: he's another guy who he gets a chance to step up, 802 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think he's going to do well. 803 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: He's been working his butt off, he has a lot 804 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: of ability, He's very smart, and so we just got 805 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: to continue to bring him along as everyone else, and 806 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: he will make his plays when they come. What do 807 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: you think you've gotten best at or grown most since 808 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: Game one? I think just overall being more comfortable, you know, 809 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: on the system and just growing every single week, just 810 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: trying to get better every single thing, every part of 811 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: my game. I've been hard on myself on and I've 812 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: got to continue to get better, you know, I think 813 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: I have to do a much better job in the 814 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: red zone, um and continue to you know, just hone 815 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: in on my footwork, my reads, and and my accuracy 816 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: and precision and just getting the ball out on time, 817 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: protecting our line and making sure that we're moving the 818 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: change and so overall I've been feeling good, but I 819 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: got to continue to get better about the red zone 820 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: to you, specifically to be better at scoring touchdowns. You know, 821 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: if I find a way, here's a score touchdowns in 822 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: the red zone, however, we can get it done. Just 823 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: getting it done. You did you take much to play 824 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: for the interception last week or just got one of 825 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: those plays or uh yeah, I mean anytime I throw 826 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: an interception, you know, it makes me upset. UM don't 827 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: want to have any of those, um, you know mistakes 828 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: out there. And uh you know it was the right read, 829 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: right throw. It's just one of those plays. Man, Like 830 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: I feel like all you know, all I've thrown four 831 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: interceptions here in the Seahawks, and they've all been kind 832 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: of plays like that, So just trying to eliminate those 833 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: plays and not let the defense, uh, you know, get 834 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: a turnover. Do you work much with Taytor h? Yeah, 835 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: we work with Taytor Um. Tator is obviously he's been 836 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: here for a while and been a tremendous coach. But um, 837 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: he does a great job. He's in the room with 838 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: us every day. He takes us through all the two 839 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: minute situations, all the scenarios that we'll see in the 840 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: games and two minutes, T four, T two, and uh, 841 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's got a lot of with them. He's 842 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: been around this game for a long time and he 843 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 1: knows the stuff. We're all right, taking a look ahead 844 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: to week eate with Ray Roberts. Next, this is the huddle. 845 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, 846 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: Stacy Ross and right now, Ray Robert says, we head 847 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: to the trenches. Ray joins us right now, and I 848 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: want to spend just a little bit of time talking 849 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: about the Chargers, but then switch ahead and look at 850 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: week eight against the Giants. So Ray, I'll start with 851 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: this which is one hundred and sixty plus for ken Walker. 852 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: Obviously it's phenomenal, but that also means the guys up 853 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: front are playing phenomenally. Absolutely, And the first thing I 854 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: want to say, Stacey's I'm just gonna keep beating this drum, 855 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of the year. But uh 856 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: and Michael Bumps and Paul Morian knows it. I called 857 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: this I called the ken Walker draft pick. Bump's already smiling. 858 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Why are you shaking her? Man? He called it, called 859 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: it gonna. I'm gonna reflect that thing. I've gotta reflect 860 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: that muscle until the cows come home. You should got 861 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: something right in my life. But whenever I think of 862 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: ken I'll think of Ray Roberts. We come as a package. 863 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: Um No, but you guys should do a show of 864 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: favorite sandwiches. But that's a different story, um but not 865 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: to me. I think that there's a as the preseason 866 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: was going along, as I saw this offensive line working together, 867 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: as I saw that the identity that it was creating, 868 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: especially and I'll keep eating this one too, is that 869 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: Abe Lucas brings a certain mentality and an identity to 870 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: the offensive line. And I think over the last couple 871 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: of years that was kind of lacking and UH, and 872 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: then with them being able to take the reps that 873 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: they took together in the preseason, UM watching them in practice, 874 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: I just had a feeling that by the third quarter 875 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: of the season that they would be one of the 876 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: better offensive lines. And that included having two rookie tackles, 877 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: which is unheard of. And the thing that I like 878 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: about UM this offensive line is that they're getting better 879 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: and better each week, Like each week you see something 880 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: about them that's different. So when I look at this 881 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: offensive line, I start to see the double teams, the 882 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: way that the guards and the tackles are working together 883 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: to get up to the next level. Let's see the 884 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: improvement with with Damian Lewis, like the player that I 885 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: thought that he was going to be last year, You're 886 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: starting to see that kind of come out. I get 887 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: to see Charles Cross been just a little bit more 888 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: violent with his hands and pass protection, the way he's 889 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: starting to finish blocks. Abe has just been Abe. And 890 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: then as you look at the rotation between Haynes and UH, 891 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: Jackson and Current, like there's really no drop off right there. 892 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: Those all three of those dudes bring a different aspect 893 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: to the game, but the outcomes are really similar and 894 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: so so I just see an offensive line it is 895 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: really coming together. It's important for an offensive line to 896 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: have five dudes with different various studio skill sets, but 897 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: they operate as one. And that's kind of what we're 898 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: starting to see with this offensive line. Yeah, Ray, I 899 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: just I did a thing on our website about the 900 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: first Kenneth Walker run and you know, you mentioned Damian 901 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Lewis and Austin Blythe and it was just so I 902 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be corny, but it was beautiful to watch. 903 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 1: Peter will probably say that, but like the way ken 904 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: Walker sets up the block, and by the way Damian 905 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: Lewis is, I mean, he had a really good rookie 906 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: year last year. I didn't think was was great, but 907 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: the way he set that block up, and then the 908 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: way Blythe comes off of the double team and goes 909 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: up to the linebacker and then you see this like 910 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: perfect hallway right there for ken Walker. I just thought 911 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: that was just an awesome I know, it just looked 912 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: like they're so in sync. Yeah, and you know, I've 913 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: made a post on on Twitter the other day that 914 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: the run game is not always pretty until it is 915 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: and that was like one of those plays where it 916 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: was it was beautiful like it. You could not have 917 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: blocked it any better than like, that's exactly how you 918 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: would draw it up. When you draw the little chalk 919 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: lines and you go like you're gonna go right here 920 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna go off to right there. It normally 921 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: doesn't happen like that, but it happened like that, and 922 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: when it does, it's a beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. 923 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: And uh. And then I'm telling you, like, yes we 924 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: like to pass block, Yes we like to score points. 925 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: Yes we like biggest supposed to plays. But it gives me, 926 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm outside, but give me a seventy four 927 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: yard running touchdown every single day of the week over 928 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: a seventy four yard pass play, because that means that 929 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm expressing my dominance over another three hundred 930 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: pound dude. And there is nothing more exhilarating as an 931 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: offensive linemen than that. Ray. We look that these are 932 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: We've been watching these tackles and they've been up against, 933 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: as you would say, some dudes, man like, they are 934 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: battle tested at this point in the season. And I 935 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: take it back to when you were them at this 936 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: point of the season. You've been in some battles, you've won, some, 937 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: you've lost some. These guys have won more than they've lost. 938 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: What do you think their confidence level is and how 939 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: comfortable do you think they are out there? Well, I 940 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: think they should be super confident and they should be 941 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: super brought into their own ability to play this game 942 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: at a very high level. I can remember it was 943 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: probably around week six or seven where I was just 944 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: figuring out, like how the rest of the play worked. 945 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: Like I was just like focused on who am I 946 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: blocking in front of me? And that was it. And 947 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: so at halfway through the season now I'm just like, oh, 948 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: so that's what we're trying to get done with that play, 949 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: you know. So so for them to be able to 950 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: do what they're doing and playing against, like you said, 951 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: some dudes, and not just playing against dudes, but doing 952 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: it without help, you know, I told Dave, I think 953 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: it was last week or earlier this week. You know, 954 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: my rookie year, I played against a murderous row of 955 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: pass rushers, like I think every week I played against 956 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: a dude that's already in the Hall of Fame. And 957 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: there were times where I looked over my left shoulder, 958 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: and I looked over my right shoulder, and I'm like, 959 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: where is that running back or where is that tight end? 960 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: Because I need somebody to help me block Derek talk 961 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: and U and these dudes are doing it without that 962 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: help and uh. And so that says something about not 963 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: only their own confidence in ability, but peach confidence in them. Uh, 964 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, the officer, the line coach confidence in them, 965 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: this team's confidence in them that they can get the 966 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: job done, because then it opens up the door to 967 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: get more guys out into routes when you're running, you know, 968 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: when you're throwing the ball, so you don't have to 969 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: leave that running back in there to help. You can 970 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: have them in out to pick up a blizz but 971 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: they're not helping linement. You can get the tight end 972 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: out into out into the into the route, so you 973 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: have more options to throw it too. So I'm just 974 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: super impressed with just the way they've gone about it. 975 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: The professionalism, Like every single veteran person you talked to 976 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: about these offensive tackles and just these rookies in general, 977 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: it's like their professionalism is like on steroids. It's like 978 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what I'm saying that they're doing 979 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: it in a way that rookies aren't supposed to do it, 980 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: and that's impressive. Hey, Ray, you know you were talking 981 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: about the dudes that they have gone up against, and 982 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: you know Chub and Bosa, those two guys each got 983 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: two sacks the last but the last four games. And 984 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: we're talking about Aiden Hutchinson. Well, I'm not putting at 985 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: lant in there, but the Cam Jordan got two sacks, 986 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: Khalil max zero, Markus Golden got one, JJ Watt zero 987 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: this week, I'm looking at their d line, second rounder, 988 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: first rounder, first rounder, first rounder. So I mean this 989 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 1: this might be h maybe maybe even there their hardest 990 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: test right now as far as you know, facing as 991 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: you say, a group of dudes that can really rush 992 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: the passer. Yeah, and you know that's why it's going 993 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: to be important, Dave to get to keep the running 994 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: game going. Like even if it's just you know, maybe 995 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, Kenneth Walker isn't going to rush for one 996 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards, but if he can rush between 997 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: like sixty and you know, maybe seventy five yards and 998 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: one hundred yards, and they're staying true to the running game, 999 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: he gets his you know, fifteen to twenty carries and 1000 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: and U DJ Dallas gets his carries. That make the 1001 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: defensive line have to be honest about about the run game, 1002 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: then it's going to help them in the pass protection. 1003 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of of that Kansas City 1004 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: defensive line. You know, when I was a rookie. They 1005 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: had Derek Thomas on one end, that Neil Smith on 1006 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: the other end. They had some some some dogs in 1007 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: the middle that would like really good pass rushes. So 1008 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: every single dude had to be on their game. But 1009 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: the way you the way you neutralize that has been 1010 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: able to run the football because the thing that I've 1011 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: learned and my days as a player is that the 1012 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: dudes that like the rush your quarterback don't like tackling 1013 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: the running back. And so if you can make it noisy, 1014 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: make it a smart bubble kind of game, Hey there 1015 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: it is, I gotta end this week, then then you 1016 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: have a chance to kind of neutralize some of that 1017 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: passed for us. So I think that's going to be 1018 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: the important part for this offsive line versus that defensive line. 1019 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: All right, perfect note to end on because Ray Ray 1020 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: Roberts takes us in the trenches every single week for 1021 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: the huddle. Ray, I will be talking to you next 1022 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: Thursday for the huddle, but you're gonna be talking with 1023 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: bump before then for pregame. For this one, it is 1024 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: Seahawks Giants this Sunday right here at Loomin. You can 1025 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: hear Ray on the pregame show. Thanks so much, Ray, 1026 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: absolutely round ball. He is Ray Roberts. We are sticking 1027 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: with some voices of the Seahawks. Here are going to 1028 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, for some keys 1029 00:48:46,600 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: to a win. He joins us. Next, this is the 1030 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 1: Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross joining 1031 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 1: us now the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel and Raves. 1032 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have a big challenge in this one, trying 1033 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: to stop that Giant's run game. What have they been 1034 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: doing so well? I mean maybe the answer is just 1035 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: Sea que being phenomenal, But what do you see? Yeah, 1036 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's a large part of it. 1037 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I think their system, the system that Brian Dabel was 1038 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: brought in as head coach, has really worked. It's it's 1039 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: minimized as the mistakes that Daniel Jones, the quarterback, is 1040 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: making and it's maximizing the positives the strong points of 1041 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: this of this giant team, one of which is sae 1042 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. They're just finding ways to get him the ball. 1043 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of motion, they move people around, 1044 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: but ultimately and they and they're they've done a decent 1045 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: job of blocking for him up front, but ultimately you 1046 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: just watch him. I watched him last night against Jacksonville, 1047 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: and he'll come off the edge and if he's not 1048 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: running over people, he's running around and passed people. I 1049 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 1: tell you, I can't tell you how much ken Walker 1050 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 1: the third reminds me of Barkeley, although Barkeley's more compact. 1051 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: It looks like and you know, even thicker, tougher to 1052 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: bring down, but he is. He is a terrific running back. 1053 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be I think the biggest test against 1054 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: the run that the Seahawks maybe we'll face all seasons. 1055 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: Hey raise, I look at the New York Football Giants 1056 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 1: and I see a team that has found a way 1057 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: to win tough games with not a lot of talent. 1058 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: There's talent out there, obviously, this is the NFL. These 1059 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: guys can play and because of that, I look at 1060 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: Dable and just say, the culture change over there must 1061 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: play a huge part. And then being able to call 1062 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: and climb out of these games in the fourth quarter, Yeah, exactly. 1063 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: I remember where he's come from. You know, he coached, 1064 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: and he's in Buffalo. He was with Kansas City for 1065 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: a while, so he's learned from a really good winning 1066 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: franchises and under some pretty dark, good head coaches. So 1067 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: he kind of gets it. And I know that he 1068 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: would have brought in a lot of his own thoughts 1069 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: and his own philosophies as a head coach. But he's 1070 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: You're right, he may not have all the greatest talent 1071 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: in the world. They can't build it up all at once, 1072 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: but they've got enough high round draft choices over the 1073 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: last few years because they've been a pretty dismal team 1074 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: over the last few seasons, that they have something to 1075 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: work with there in New York. And you know, maybe 1076 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: most of all, bump is the development of their belief system. 1077 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: They now believe in themselves. There's six and one. They 1078 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: believe they can go out and be just about anybody. 1079 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: And you know, with one exception this season, they have 1080 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: so I think they believe they can come in here 1081 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: do what they've done in the past, run the football, 1082 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: try to slow down the Seahawks and score just enough 1083 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: points to win ribs. How do you look at this 1084 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: team now versus Week one? Because I talked to some 1085 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: Giant guys today UM on their their pregame show and 1086 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: we taped something, and they like their team. I mean, 1087 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: they weren't cocky, but I mean they were they were confident. 1088 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: But I don't see why the Seahawks can't beat the Giants. 1089 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just your your attitude about this team 1090 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: now that they're four and three, and it sounds sounds 1091 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 1: funny to hear that they're number one in the NFC 1092 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: West when everybody's you know, on a log gym. But 1093 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: still it's don't look a gift horse in the mountain. Yeah, 1094 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: I know, And I feel like they can't beat any 1095 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: team in the NFL, especially this year. Yeah, I agree 1096 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: with you, David. You know, the first game was chuck 1097 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: that one up to Yes, the guys played really well, 1098 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: but the emotion of playing against their former quarterback on 1099 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: Monday Night football and beating the Broncos in a in 1100 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: a tight game, and then the defense you know, was 1101 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of absent without a pass for a while until 1102 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: they made the change as they needed to make and 1103 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: suddenly the last couple of weeks. Take nothing away from 1104 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: what that game meant just a few days ago down 1105 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles to beat the Chargers. That is a 1106 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: really good football team on their home turf. Herbert is 1107 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: an excellent quarterback. He's got great targets. Their defense has 1108 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: a number of really good players. Yeah, they were missing 1109 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: bows a big deal. Everybody's missing game players. But the 1110 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: way this team, the Seahawks have transitioned and have gotten 1111 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: better offensively, You'd love to still have Rashad Penny in 1112 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: that one two punch, but ken Walker is the third 1113 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: being the primary back. He has been absolutely no slouch. 1114 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: He has played great. Gino has played beyond expectations. You 1115 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: hope to get DK back sooner rather than later. I 1116 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: think that'll be the case. But you still have some 1117 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: great weapons to throw to and Gino has been so 1118 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: accurate with his passing. If there is a big difference 1119 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: between these two teams, we both like to run the football. 1120 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: We've both given up some yards defensively, but Geno Smith 1121 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: is the better quarterback without question. Right now in his 1122 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: ability to find the open receivers, to hit those open receivers, 1123 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: and even if they're not open, to make the throws 1124 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: and their throw guys open and throw into tight windows. 1125 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: He's done that much better than Daniel Jones has Hey Raves. 1126 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. Bumps pointed out before that the Seahawks have 1127 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: had rookie's getting more snaps than any other team, and 1128 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: we know that they've drafted young guys and have sometimes 1129 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: not played them as early. Do you think there's a 1130 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: willingness to play young guys sooner or do you think 1131 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: that that's just the way the cookie crumbled for this team? Well, 1132 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. Days. I think Pete 1133 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: has always been one of those guys who is, you know, 1134 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: an exceptional coach when it comes to young guys. We've 1135 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: talked about it, how so many you know, in college 1136 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: he was rotating guys through their every couple of three 1137 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: years at USC, they come on, they played for a 1138 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: couple of years, then they leave early and and so 1139 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: he had a lot of talent, but they were also 1140 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 1: young guys and he coached them up into their system. 1141 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: Same thing with the guys this year. I heard Gino 1142 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: interview today, in fact, on NFL Network. You guys may 1143 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: have talked about this, but he was asked about a 1144 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 1: comment that he made about Pete's coaching ability and how 1145 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: much trust. This is Gino talking and I'm paraphrasing here, 1146 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: how much trust Pete has in the entire team to 1147 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: start all the rookies that he's starting, and to get 1148 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: them coached up and to have them playing as well 1149 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: as they're playing. It shows a trust in the rest 1150 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 1: of the team as well as those young guys. So 1151 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: I agree with Gino and that they Pete and his 1152 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: assistant coaches have got these guys playing well. I don't 1153 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: think Andy Dickerson has gotten nearly enough credit on the 1154 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: offensive line for getting those two young tackles ready to 1155 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: play in this system the way they wanted to play. 1156 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, if there's a real plus for this team 1157 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: and they're playing well now, I don't none of us 1158 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: want to look ahead, but just think about it for 1159 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: a second. Where this team is going to be in 1160 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: a year or two, as these guys continue to mature 1161 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: and play better. It just is one of those things 1162 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: that has everybody kind of licking their jobs. Hey, raves Um. 1163 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,439 Speaker 1: I look at always look at a depth chart, and 1164 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: the ones are always highlighted, but I always look at 1165 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: the two deeps man because eventually, especially at the skill positions, 1166 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: those number two are gonna get opportunities to play. And 1167 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: with ken Walker being bumpled to the number one spot, 1168 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: I look at a guy like DJ Dallas and say, Okay, 1169 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: your contributions are that much more important. Now do you 1170 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: see DJ Dallas getting he got six carries last game, 1171 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: you see him having around six carries or what do 1172 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: you feel like his role is going to be in 1173 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: this game? Well, I think it's I think it just 1174 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: depends on how the game flows. You know, as you 1175 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: guys know, if you get behind earlier, then maybe you 1176 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: can't run quite as much as you want to, and 1177 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe guys don't get as many opportunities as they might ordinarily. 1178 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: And then again, if you get ahead big, you're gonna 1179 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: just keep running the ball down the road and you're 1180 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to give ken Walker a break and you're 1181 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna get some of the other guys in there. And 1182 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: DJ Dallas has certainly proven that he is. He can 1183 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: do pretty much anything. He can return kicks, he can 1184 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: cover kicks. He's good in pass pro. Remember, with Travis 1185 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: Homer being out, that job as the third down back 1186 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: basically went to DJ. He's a good receiver coming out 1187 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: of the backfield. Now Homer is hopefully going to be 1188 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: back in another week or two, as he's been eligible 1189 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: now for practice after his injury. So all of a sudden, 1190 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: where you were maybe a little bit thin earlier, now 1191 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: you're three deep. And we haven't even talked about some 1192 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: of the other guys that they that they've picked up, 1193 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: like Tony Jones Jr. Who came over here from New Orleans. 1194 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,439 Speaker 1: I think they're where the Seahawks, that is, are where 1195 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: they want to be with this group of running backs 1196 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: and led by led by Ken Walker and then Gino. 1197 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: Let's not forget about him. He's gonna get his runs 1198 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: in there too. So I feel pretty confident about about 1199 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: the ability and the two and three deep, as you 1200 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: were mentioned in bump at some of these positions. Marquis Goodwin, 1201 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: for instance, I mean, goodness, gracious, he catches two touchdown 1202 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: passes a week ago, huge plays that were in effect 1203 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: though a lot of difference in that football game, So 1204 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: you can't you can't help but like the depth on 1205 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: this team. He is the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. 1206 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: You can hear him on the call of the Seahawks 1207 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: Giants game this weekend alongside Dave Wyman. Thanks so much, Rabes, 1208 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: all right, pleasure guys, thank you, all right? Who are 1209 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: the Giants? We're stepping across enemy lines for an opponent preview. 1210 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: Next joining us now for the huddle is John J. Stremski. 1211 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: He is host of the New York New York Podcast, 1212 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: part of the Ringer podcast network, and John, I am 1213 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: tell me among those surprised that the six and one 1214 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: Giants are taking on the first place in the NFC 1215 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: West Seattle Seahawks a game in a matchup that I 1216 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: was not expecting to be saying seven weeks into the season. 1217 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: You ain't kidding. I mean, the idea that you got 1218 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Gino Smith playing at such a high level, 1219 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: The idea that you have the Giants in the Seattle Seahawks, 1220 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: two winning teams and two teams that could would generally 1221 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: think about being in the postseason right now. I mean, 1222 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: if you were to go through the odds, and I 1223 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: like to do this, I'm a betting man, not gonna lie. 1224 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: You were rattling off teams in the NFC. I don't 1225 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: think you would have had the Giants in the Seahawks 1226 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: with winning records at this point in the year. So 1227 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: wild indeed, no, not at all. Tell me about Daniel Jones. 1228 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, we're here on the West coast, so I 1229 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: don't think too many people pay attention to what's going 1230 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: on in the East. Probably guys versus as well described 1231 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones what has allowed him to lead this team 1232 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: to where they are today. You know, he's been super, 1233 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: super tough, That's what I've noticed, and I think he's 1234 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: far more comfortable in the offense and in his own 1235 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: skin playing for Brian Dable. I can't stress this enough, guys, 1236 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: the difference in coaching that you've gotten from the Giants 1237 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and Brian Dable coming over from the Buffalo Bills to 1238 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: what they had last year or what they had the 1239 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: year before. It's so eye opening. You saw it in 1240 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: the first game of the year against the Tennessee Titans. 1241 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: The Giants have been a money team in the fourth quarter, 1242 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones specifically has been a money quarterback in 1243 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: the fourth quarters. That's a testament to the coaching and 1244 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do. I'm stunned, quite frankly, 1245 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I really really am surprised with what they've been able 1246 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: to do, considering you look around the talent base offensively 1247 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: outside to say a Quon Barkley, there's not much to 1248 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: be working with here, so they're finding ways to score. 1249 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Jones is making ploys. He's making ploys with his legs, 1250 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: and it's been really fun to watch. You mentioned Brian Dable. 1251 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: What's he doing in particular, Is he, you know, adapting. 1252 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Is he adapting as the year goes on? Is it 1253 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: an approach? I mean it sounds like a lot of 1254 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: this is him too well. I think he's making the 1255 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: best of what is on the roster, and that's coaching 1256 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: in a nutshell where it's like, all right, you don't 1257 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: have the most talented roster in the world. Okay, you've 1258 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: got to find the way to make it work. They 1259 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: don't have particularly talented wide receivers. I mean you look 1260 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: at who they have playing wide receiver. I mean they don't. 1261 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: They don't have a dk met Keff, they don't have 1262 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: a Tyreek Kill, they don't have a Davante Adam. So 1263 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: it's been throwing to the tight end, it's been throwing 1264 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: the running backs. It's been finding a way creatively to 1265 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: score points, to execute in the red zone, and to 1266 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: do enough to win. I mean, that's what coaching is 1267 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: all about, doing more with less. That to me is 1268 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: what Brian Dable has done. Because listen, I think we 1269 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: can objectively say the Giants don't have six and one talent. 1270 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Do you guys look at the roster and say that's 1271 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: a team that should be six and one nine nine 1272 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: million years. That's coaching. That's coaching in a nutshell. I'm 1273 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: looking at the schedule and you guys have some close wins. 1274 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 1: If this team is with last year's coach, do you 1275 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: think they pull this off? Or do you, again, tip 1276 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: your hat to the new head coach and say he's 1277 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: finding ways to get these guys to executing these type moments. Oh, 1278 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 1: no chance, No tis six o one and I'll take 1279 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: it a step further. Their first game of the year, 1280 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: you remember they went for two at the end of 1281 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: the game against the Tennessee Titans. It was dramatic. Everybody 1282 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. And you 1283 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: know they got a little, you know, fortunate luck on 1284 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: their side, But to me, that kind of set a 1285 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: tone that we're in it to win it. And I 1286 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: think the team's close game skill and the ability to 1287 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: rise to the occasion in these close games is a 1288 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: testament to the coaching. Yeah, I do not think they'd 1289 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: be a six or one team with Joe Judge leading 1290 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: what No, Jets, Hey, we've got a guy we're following 1291 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 1: here who's had a career in New York with both 1292 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: New York teams, Gino Smith. I gotta be honest, John, 1293 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I did not see this version of Gino though. I 1294 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,439 Speaker 1: didn't cover him and watch him as closely as you did, 1295 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: did you. I know, nine a million years, I thought 1296 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Gino Smith's career was absolutely finished when he left in 1297 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: New York, Jets. I mean, first year in the league, 1298 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: he was pedestrian. I think that's being kind. By the 1299 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: time Gino Smith's second year happened, I think a lot 1300 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: of people were ready to move on. Remember, he had 1301 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the off the field nonsense too, in which he lost 1302 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: his job. He's getting into a fight in the locker room. 1303 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: They go to Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Gino never got his 1304 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: job back. Look, he's matured. I think Gino Smith has 1305 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: grown up. I think being around a lot of different 1306 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: offenses has definitely helped him. And you look at Seattle, 1307 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean I look at it from an outside his perspective. 1308 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: When they traded away Russell Wilson, I'm like, oh my goodness, 1309 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be one of the worst teams in the NFL. 1310 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: To help with that highway robbery pleasing is what Seattle 1311 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: was able to do to the Denver Broncos with the way, 1312 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: with the way Russell looks, he looks completely cooked, and 1313 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Gino Smith has found something. Seattle is set up as 1314 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: far as draft picks are concerned. So no, I did. 1315 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 1: I did not see this version of Gino Smith. But 1316 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you sometimes with quarterbacks, it 1317 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: takes some time with certain guys. And it's not it's 1318 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 1: not that every organization should wait seven or eight years 1319 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: for a quarterback to flourish and develop, but sometimes for 1320 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a dude, it almost takes getting benched or getting dumped 1321 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: or going to a different team like in order for 1322 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: it too quick. Now, all of a sudden, it is 1323 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: quick for Gino Smith, and I'm happy for him. He's 1324 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: playing really good football. I know my fantasy teams happy 1325 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: about it. I can tell you that much. You picked 1326 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: up Gino I needed to. I mean my other quarterback 1327 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. Where I tom Brady's for Gina? This 1328 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: thing about that for a minute. When did you hit 1329 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: out Gina? What week did you pick up Gino? A 1330 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago? I needed a quarterback? Wowa, good 1331 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: good fun, good fun. You bench Tom and I'll be 1332 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: benching him again this week. You, of course I will. Hey, 1333 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: tell me about this defense. They are less than average 1334 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: against the run, average against the past, but when it 1335 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: comes to giving up points, man, they're like number six 1336 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: or seven in the league. Tell me about the defense, 1337 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: and to some guys who have helped us, Well, I'm 1338 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna stretch the defensive coordinator, Wink Martindell, who came over 1339 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: from the Baltimore Ravens. They are playing a very aggressive 1340 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: scheme and they have been able to get some turnovers. 1341 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: They've been able to get some big stops and goal 1342 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: on situations. They got big turnovers against the Ravens a 1343 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,959 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. They got the big goal line stand 1344 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers in London. A couple of 1345 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago. The guy who got to watch out for 1346 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: and he's really starting to come on over the last 1347 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks is Cavon Thibodeaux. I mean, Cavon Thibodeaux 1348 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,919 Speaker 1: looks like the real deal. I love watching him play. 1349 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: He's an emotional, fiery player. Dexter Lawrence is another guy 1350 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: to watch. He's playing all of his career and in 1351 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: the secondary. I thought the Giants were going to be exposed. 1352 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: They lost their best corner last year at James Bradberry. 1353 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: He got cut dollary cap casualty. All you need to 1354 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: know is the Giants they said goodbye to a guy 1355 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: like Bradberry because they had to. They had no choice. 1356 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: They had to get onto the cap they I don't 1357 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: even think the Giants saw this year coming. And defensively speaking, 1358 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: they have been resilient. I kind of I know, I 1359 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: sound like I'm beating a dead horse and I'm a 1360 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: broken record here, ladies and gentleman, but like, that's what 1361 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: the Giant season has been about. They have been tough, 1362 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: they have been resilient, They've been spunky, and I'll say this, 1363 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: if the game is close in the fourth quarter, you 1364 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: might be nervous because they've been they used to this, 1365 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: They've been pulling these games out all year. Now, given 1366 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: that you're starting Gino Smith in fantasy, you must see 1367 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: some opportunities for the Seahawks offense. Well I do. I mean, listen, 1368 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to start Tom Brady right now, 1369 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: to be honestly. Yeah, I mean, at least I know 1370 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Gino is gonna be able to run around a little 1371 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: bit make some things happen. Yeah. I actually like Seattle 1372 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: in the game. But full disclosure, guys, I have picked 1373 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: against the Giants the last three weeks. I didn't think 1374 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: they'd win a Green Bay couldn't have been more wrong. 1375 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Boaltimore game, they're five and a half home dogs. I 1376 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: was like, they're not gonna win this game. They win late, 1377 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and then last week the points bread. I thought it 1378 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 1: was the sucker bet to take the five and one 1379 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Giants against the two and four Jaguars. So something's gotta give. 1380 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, something's gotta give. Right Either either I'm going 1381 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: to continue to be wrong in picking Giant games, or 1382 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe you guys are gonna have some vindication. Tough spot 1383 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: for them though, going to the West Coast very very 1384 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: tough spot. So you picked against the Giants the last 1385 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: three weeks. I think we're kind of in the same 1386 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: boat when it comes to our fan base. I think 1387 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: the guys over here are like, is this realm? Is 1388 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the Seattle team real? Can I believe in Gino? What's 1389 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the feeling with the fan base over there? Is everyone 1390 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: completely bought in? Or is it the same type of 1391 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: feeling You're still trying to believe in what you're seeing. Well, 1392 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: here's the difference between where the Seahawks have been and 1393 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: where the Giants have been. And I know the Giants 1394 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: are proud franchised that the two Super Bowl wins over 1395 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots in Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, but really, 1396 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: for the last eight or nine years, the team has 1397 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: been atrocious. I mean absolutely positively atrocious, which you're not 1398 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: used to staying. So I just think it's so refreshing 1399 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: that the team is six and one that the fan 1400 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: base is kind of like just riding the ways they 1401 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: ride that high. I don't think the fan base thinks 1402 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: they're better than Philadelphia. I don't think the fan base 1403 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: thinks they're better in Dallas. But the NFC is a 1404 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,720 Speaker 1: week conference. Guys, you know that. So with six or one, 1405 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 1: I think everybody around town is saying, all right, we're 1406 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: not going to win the division, but we should be 1407 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: at playoff team. I think that's where the fan base 1408 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,679 Speaker 1: is at. They're into it. He is John Jatramsky, host 1409 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: of the New York New York Podcast, part of the 1410 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Ringer Podcast Network. John, thanks so much for joining us, man. 1411 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Appreciate you man my pleasure. I'm 1412 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: looking forward again out to Safeco Field next year out 1413 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: about my Yankees. Great, Jodan, your Mariners put up a 1414 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: better showing than my Yankees. Hey, thank you, thank you, 1415 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: thank you. We'll have to get back in touch with 1416 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: you when these when the Yankees and Mariners face off 1417 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: next year, do you know what to fine me? Thanks guys, 1418 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: all right, Thank you again to John Jastremsky for joining us. 1419 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: John Boyle joins us next on the Huddle as we 1420 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: wrap up our thoughts on weekate. This is the Huddle 1421 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross joining us now, 1422 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,919 Speaker 1: just as he does to wrap up every single episode 1423 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: of the Huddle. It's John Boyle, Seahawks dot Com reporter 1424 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: and John the Seahawks have a big challenge against San Francisco. 1425 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: Excuse me, no, not a San Francisco Giants. What am 1426 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:49,679 Speaker 1: I doing? Us? Snap out of it? New York Giants 1427 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: team that sure likes to run the ball, averaging over 1428 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards a game. Who's got you know? 1429 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 1: You know the biggest task for the Seahawks defense this week? 1430 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's one person unless 1431 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: you want to just say, maybe put it on the 1432 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff. You're trying to pin it on one, but 1433 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: it's it's everybody. It's that whole front seven in particular. 1434 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 1: You know, they've done a great job of improving their 1435 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: defense and their run defense as well. Especially last week. 1436 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: They really didn't give up much of anything on the 1437 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: ground to the Chargers. I could have set San Diego 1438 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: there for you out of solidarity, but you know, but yeah, 1439 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 1: it's I mean, when it comes to a good running attack, 1440 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: it's it's not one person at all, it's that whole group. 1441 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, they are going to have their cancel. It's 1442 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: a really tough running game and tough back boy. How 1443 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: you doing, man, I'm doing great? How are you get 1444 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: bumples to say hi to you know, I know she 1445 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: she drives the show, but you know, sometimes I don't 1446 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: feel right if I don't. You know, it's fair to 1447 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: say what's yeah. I'd like to say hello too. I'd 1448 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,799 Speaker 1: like to say hi. Everyone saying hello. It's really helpful 1449 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: for my self esteem. Hey boy, Um, I'm looking at 1450 01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the Giants offense and it's clearly a run first type 1451 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: of do. Then you look at the Seahawks defense. They 1452 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: hold Eckler to fifty three. I don't know if that's 1453 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: saying much or not than the week before they hold 1454 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to one forty four. How realistic is is 1455 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: it to believe in this defense and what they do, 1456 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: what they can do against the run, and expect them 1457 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: to contain Barkley and and Danny Dimes. I mean, I 1458 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 1: think the improvement they've made is definitely real. It's not. 1459 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it was some one week mirage kind 1460 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: of deal. That being said, I don't think you can 1461 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: just say, Okay, they played well against the Chargers run game. 1462 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: They're going to be great and shut down the Strands attack. 1463 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned their quarterback as all as a 1464 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: big running threat. We've seen other running quarterbacks provide some 1465 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 1: trouble for the Seahawks, especially, you know, Kyle Murray had 1466 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the hundred yards the taste and hill packages that we're 1467 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: tough to stop against New Orleans, So they do have 1468 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: to clean that element of their run game up. But 1469 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I just feel like they're confident going in this game 1470 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 1: that they have fixed a lot of those issues that 1471 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 1: showed up earlier in the year. I don't think that 1472 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: means you can count and hold them to fifty rushing 1473 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 1: yards in like that, but you know, you've got to 1474 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: stop the big explosives from happening and make them work 1475 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: hard for those drives and hopefully put the ball, you know, 1476 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: make them put the ball in the air some and 1477 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: get some of those tassling situations. Hey, John, have you 1478 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 1: heard anything. I can't get a specific answer, and I 1479 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 1: think that's because, of course they don't. You want to 1480 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: tell us their business. But as far as the defense goes, 1481 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,599 Speaker 1: if you you know, and I've been saying this week 1482 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: that to me, it looks like they know where their 1483 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: gaps are before the ball snaps. That's probably very simplistic. 1484 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: But have you heard any answer when asking about what 1485 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 1: has been the difference these last two weeks, especially in 1486 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: the run game and holding the Chargers to fifty three 1487 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 1: yards on the ground, what have you. You know, when 1488 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,639 Speaker 1: we talk about we talk about the front in particular, 1489 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: or the thing we keep hearing from the lineman and 1490 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: those outside linebackers is you know, they're just being freed 1491 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 1: up to be a little more aggressive. Quintin Jefferson talked 1492 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: about that today. Um, you know, less radiant reacting and 1493 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: more kind of attacking and penetrating. And if you point out, 1494 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: you got to do that right if you're gonna be 1495 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: doing it, because it can look really bad if you 1496 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: screw up. And that's where sort of earning the trust 1497 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff of Okay, if you're gonna play 1498 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 1: like this, you got to do it right because if 1499 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: you don't, it's gonna make us look even worse. So 1500 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the biggest change, at least 1501 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: that they've talked about. But to your point, they don't 1502 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: want to give away every schematics change. The change they 1503 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 1: make it's working, so the coaches are being intentionally vague 1504 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, I think that's the biggest you know, 1505 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: when you talk about schematic difference is how the front 1506 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: and guys are attacking. Are you personally expecting to see 1507 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: a DK Metcalf out on the field this weekend? You know, 1508 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's wait and see till Friday, until 1509 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: we see if he's practiced. I you know, it seems 1510 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: like a big ask for guy. I know that injury 1511 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: is not serious, thankfully no surgery, but it was enough 1512 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 1: of an injury that they ruled him out pretty much 1513 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 1: the minute it happened. He didn't practice Wednesday. You know, 1514 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is such an optimistic guy. He's never gonna, 1515 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, if there's any chance, He's not gonna say 1516 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: it can't happen. So they'll they'll probably take it up 1517 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 1: at least till Friday and maybe till game day. You know, 1518 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: I would think, obviously you would err on the side 1519 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,720 Speaker 1: of caution if there's any doubt. You don't want to 1520 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: risk a longer term thing to keep him out longer. 1521 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, if someone's looking for fantasy advice, 1522 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: I'm not going to begin to tell you what to do, 1523 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: but I you know, I would maybe lean Howard and know, 1524 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: but who knows, We'll see what happens. He's the next 1525 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days, bank Web wat better Field by 1526 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. Hey boy, obviously we're I'm anticipating DK not playing, 1527 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 1: and I honestly I hope he doesn't play, just so 1528 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,640 Speaker 1: he rest up and make sure he's good to go. 1529 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,959 Speaker 1: So with that being said, when you look at this offense, 1530 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 1: do you think Shane Waldron does anything dramatically different or 1531 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: do you see him discontinuing to run the office You 1532 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: just don't have fourteen out there. Yeah, I mean I 1533 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: think it's more continuing to do what they're doing. That's 1534 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they went almost you know, they went in 1535 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the bulk of that game without Metcalf last week, and 1536 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: it didn't look like they changed a lot up. I mean, 1537 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: you're counting on Mark he's a good one to do more. 1538 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: You're count on d Escers to do more. And I 1539 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: think also, you know, when people talk about who steps 1540 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 1: up in the production wise, I think you look at 1541 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: the tight end as well. I Mean, those guys have 1542 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: all been great. They've been doing a lot of this 1543 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: three tight end stuff that's you know, makes them really 1544 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: versatile and hard to defend. So I think it's kind 1545 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: of a collective effort to step up there, but I 1546 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 1: don't think you draft meech. I guess maybe if I'm 1547 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: talking like one schnack change and maybe you do more 1548 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 1: of the multi tight end stuff than you would have. 1549 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 1: But otherwise I think they're going to count on that 1550 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: receiver depth to just kind of step up and take 1551 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: their DK would have played. Yeah, that's that's what I 1552 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: think too, John, And I think you know the whole 1553 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: thing is about Geno. I mean, he's just been spreading 1554 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: the ball around. But I want to ask specifically because 1555 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: now Kallee Parkinson, he had a couple of blocks where 1556 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: somebody's already engaged with him and then he comes and 1557 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 1: hits him and knocks him down. And linebackers love that, right, Yeah, 1558 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 1: because you know when he hits the guy who's engaged, 1559 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 1: he probably weighs like one hundred pounds. But I'm not 1560 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,799 Speaker 1: taking anything away from what Kobe. What I like about 1561 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: it is that he's being nasty. He's he's knocking people 1562 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: to the ground. But how much muscle has that guy put? 1563 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean he has transformed himself physically. Came in here 1564 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the other day and just darkened the doorway. Man, He's huge, 1565 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 1: and it just looks like he worked really hard. You 1566 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 1: did you talk about him about with him about that, 1567 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: because I don't think I've asked him about He came 1568 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 1: up and you know, coming in training camp time, going 1569 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: to the season, and I think he mentioned a number, 1570 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 1: and I would be lying if I could tell you remember, 1571 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: but it was a it's a signific amount he bulked up. 1572 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,679 Speaker 1: I mean, the foot injuries he's had the first couple 1573 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 1: of years have been really unfortunate. But kind of what 1574 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: he pointed to is the one upshot of that is, 1575 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: you know, when he couldn't be honest heat running around, 1576 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: he was hitting the weights and bulking up a little bit, 1577 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: specially that upper body. But yeah, I mean his transformation 1578 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: has been pretty impressive. He came in here looking like 1579 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,639 Speaker 1: a kind of almost oversized receiver, a guy he'd split 1580 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 1: out right zun Brett, and you know they still want 1581 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 1: him to be all that, but he's a much more 1582 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: well round at tight end than the player they drafted, 1583 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you know has been had 1584 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 1: some impressive blocks. I think they do a lot of 1585 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 1: that motion stuff with him, and he gets get them 1586 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 1: out in space and pick up guys in the second 1587 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 1: level all that stuff. So yeah, I mean he's it's 1588 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 1: been good for him and good with team, just him 1589 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: healthy and doing all this after a couple tough years. 1590 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks so much, John Boyle. Make sure you're 1591 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,760 Speaker 1: checking out John's work at Seahawks dot com and let's 1592 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 1: hope we get some good updates here on DK. But 1593 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 1: listen to John TBD wait until at least Friday for 1594 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: that one. Thanks so much, Boyle. Of course, thanks for 1595 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 1: having me. All right, you guys, this has been the 1596 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 1: huddle for Dave, woman, for Michael Bumpus. I'm Stacy Ross. 1597 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Don't forget the huddles every single Thursday from noon to 1598 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 1: two