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Speaker 3: All right, it's been a little over twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: since Spirit Airlines ceased operations after thirty four years in business,

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Speaker 3: sending passengers scrambling to book flights on other carriers.

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Speaker 2: Ticket counters are now dark at nearly one hundred airport

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Speaker 2: locations where Spirit once flew. In addition to travelers, some

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Speaker 2: seventeen thousand employees, contractors and pilots are.

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Speaker 5: Out of a job.

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Speaker 2: Join us now, Chris and a new president and CEO

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Speaker 2: of Airlines for America.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I guess the big question is how

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Speaker 2: do Spirit going out of business impacts the airline industry overall.

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing we're going to see coming out

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Speaker 2: of this.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think two things.

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Speaker 8: In the short term, I think everyone's scrambling to say, Okay,

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Speaker 8: how do we take care of those customers?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: And how do customers get their money back?

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Speaker 8: And they can go to the Spirit website to get

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Speaker 8: their money back. And then you have folks like United Airlines, Southwest, Jet, Blue,

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Speaker 8: Delta American. They're all providing capitated rates, so they want

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Speaker 8: to get those customers taken care of that have plans

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Speaker 8: over the next month.

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Speaker 7: How do the employees get taken care of?

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Speaker 8: They also get preferential treatment with all the existing airlines

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Speaker 8: in terms of new jobs and new opportunities there. And

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Speaker 8: then in the long term, it's really about making sure

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Speaker 8: that the airspace as a whole, which America has the

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Speaker 8: strongest airspace in the country. We're rebuilding our air traffic

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Speaker 8: control system that again that is robust for the customer.

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Speaker 8: And I mean not to go too far afield, but

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Speaker 8: we've had two government shutdowns, right. We saw the TSA

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Speaker 8: lines because Congress could get their act together. We saw

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Speaker 8: the air traffic controllers not getting paid for six seven, eight,

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Speaker 8: weeks back in the fall. That system has to work

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Speaker 8: as well to make sure that all these other pieces move.

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately there's a lesson.

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Speaker 8: Here, right So when the merger was going to happen

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Speaker 8: between JetBlue and Spirit, that would have put almost four

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Speaker 8: billion dollars into Spirit, and the Biden administration crushed it

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Speaker 8: and they got political with it, and that was again,

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Speaker 8: hopefully the lesson there is when a business comes calling,

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Speaker 8: look at the financials, look at the business case, look

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Speaker 8: at how it's going to affect the customers, and make

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Speaker 8: your decision based on that, not on politics. So some

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Speaker 8: lessons learned. I think the industry is responding very well.

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Speaker 8: We just want to make sure that folks feel comfortable

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Speaker 8: preparing for their summer.

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Speaker 3: Deby let me ask you about what might happen next.

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Speaker 3: And there's been speculation to other ultra low cost airlines

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Speaker 3: are going to be in a pinch as well. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the Spirit situation was unique in many ways. You had

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Speaker 3: the Transportation Secretary yesterday batting down calls for their bailouts

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Speaker 3: or the need for bailouts, and it's something that your

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Speaker 3: a statement that you all released government or invention on

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Speaker 3: behalf of those airlines would punish other airlines that have

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Speaker 3: engaged in self help in order to deal with increased costs,

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Speaker 3: reward airlines who haven't made those tough decisions. That is

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Speaker 3: not a level playing field. So we see your opposition

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Speaker 8: No, I look at competition works, right, and so when

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Speaker 8: the Breezes of the world and some of these others

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Speaker 7: They have to compete in this new world.

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Speaker 8: Now again, a lot of these problems financially were happening

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Speaker 7: Of those move a little bit.

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Speaker 8: They have a lot of options now that they didn't

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Speaker 8: have before. So as a customer, you can get that

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Speaker 8: United and Americans, you can choose to whether you know

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Speaker 7: So they're giving the customer.

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Speaker 8: The new models give the customer a lot more flexibility

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Speaker 8: But overall, the industry is very strong. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you, because I know that for

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Speaker 2: So when you're getting the squeeze on these cheaper airlines,

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Speaker 2: is it really fair to say that these other airlines

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Speaker 8: Well, again, they have to look at at what their

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Speaker 8: And again, their higher end product might look a little

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Speaker 8: So again, you have to look at your product that

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Speaker 7: You have to update those models.

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Speaker 8: And for the carriers that didn't update that kind of

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Speaker 8: a little more. Everybody's moving forward and kind of looking

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Speaker 3: I'd like to ask you about the interface between airlines

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Speaker 3: and the administration. Play a bit of sound here from

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Speaker 3: Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary, who gave a news conference

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Speaker 9: Now, you've heard that other airlines have talked about requesting

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Speaker 9: a two point five billion dollar bailout. I am in

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Speaker 9: the CEOs of the airlines. I would say that at

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Speaker 9: this point, I don't think it's necessary. They do have

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Speaker 9: access to cash. If they want to come to the

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Speaker 3: and you hear him talk about the government being a

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Speaker 3: lender of last resort to these airlines. Obviously, this conversation

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think a Secretary Duffy is spot on.

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Speaker 8: He's saying, look, the government isn't here just to bail

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Speaker 8: was a crisis situation. I mean, that's why he kind

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Speaker 8: a lender there if they are extranuating circumstances or something

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Speaker 8: like that. What he's really referring to is, yes, spirit

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Speaker 8: I think President Trump deserves some credit for trying with spirit.

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Speaker 7: They didn't even own their own planes, right.

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Speaker 8: They had billions and billions of debt and they had

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Speaker 8: least taking a look. But to Secretary Duffy's point, the

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Speaker 7: Really really really really really really cautious, and they're going

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm being a little bit of the politician there,

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Speaker 8: because yeah, these bailouts, I mean, it's a domino effect.

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Speaker 7: When when does it stop? Right at that point?

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Speaker 8: So, now businesses need to update and advance the models,

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Speaker 7: I think it's great.

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Speaker 8: They're looking at maybe trying a little more international, they're

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Speaker 8: now has the assigned seating. The upgrades they're doing phenomenal

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Speaker 6: All right, Governor.

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Speaker 8: Sure, So I got to be clear the fuel price

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Speaker 7: It had nothing that you did say it was in

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Speaker 8: I'm just telling you then they wouldn't have been filing

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Speaker 8: But again, the airlines are resilient, right, They're willing to

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Speaker 2: Former republic Governor of New Hampshire and president and CEO

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Speaker 6: You for taking time to dress.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time. I'm going to just reference

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Speaker 3: Yes, he did cite the restructuring the issues bondholders said. However,

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Speaker 2: Now there's concern about other low cost carriers that are

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Speaker 2: I just want to start off, what is the government's

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Speaker 10: Well, it's certainly true that the cost of fuel is

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Speaker 3: You've had a number of these ultra low cost airlines

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, people rely upon these flights,

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Speaker 2: I think it all just goes into affordability, and we're

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, it's absolutely the number one issue for folks

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Speaker 10: In Sacramento, we've had a number of policies that have

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Speaker 3: If you wouldn't mind t up our next conversation, your

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Speaker 10: So I think it's about time that Congress took responsibility

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Speaker 10: Number one is to prohibit mid decade redisteresting like we're

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Speaker 2: Representative vin Kylie from California, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: We want to dig now more into the consequences of

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Speaker 3: you on a more micro level what it means for

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Speaker 3: you as you look ahead to the midterms. Your district,

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Speaker 3: the sixth district in Louisiana, very much at the center

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Speaker 3: of this case.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, I tell people all the time the

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Speaker 11: issue is not revenant Cleo Fields her another day at Congress,

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Speaker 11: but revenant a person who looks like me have an

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Speaker 11: opportunity to serve in Congress. I think the governor and

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Speaker 11: the Attorney General put the cart before the horse. I mean,

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Speaker 11: the Supreme Court decision is not really a final judgment

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Speaker 11: until you know the twenty five day elapse for people

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Speaker 11: to file the parties revert to follow some type of rehearing.

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Speaker 11: That time has not elapsed, and you know, people already

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Speaker 11: started voting in Louisiana.

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Speaker 12: Qualifying has been had.

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Speaker 11: You know, one hundred thousand ballots has been sent to people,

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Speaker 11: not only in Louisiana, but overseas. Thousands of them have

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Speaker 11: already cast their ballots, and to hold an election up

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Speaker 11: because there is a ruin from the Supreme Court to

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Speaker 11: me is unconscionable.

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Speaker 2: It is justin Kagan and heard Ascent warrened that Section

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Speaker 2: two of the Voting Rights Act is now a quote

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Speaker 2: dead letter. I'm wondering if you agree that this ruling

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Speaker 2: effectively ends the era of creating these majority minority districts

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Speaker 2: in the South.

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Speaker 12: Oh, I agree.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you couldn't have a more horrible decision. I mean,

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Speaker 11: and really, people in the southern part of our country,

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Speaker 11: the whole purpose of the Voting Rights Act was to

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Speaker 11: protect them. There was a time, you know, in Louisiana

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Speaker 11: and Mississippi and Alabama, in order to register to vote.

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Speaker 11: Although you had the constitutional right to register to vote

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Speaker 11: and be a voter in this country, there were states

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Speaker 11: like Louisiana that had all types of prerequisites. You know,

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Speaker 11: you had to state the priameter to the constitution, literacy tests. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: some of required poll taxes. You had to own property.

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Speaker 11: Those were unconscionable measures that many Southern states took. And

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Speaker 11: thus that's why Congress passed the voting rights back and

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Speaker 11: President Vinda B. Johnson signed it for good reason. Now

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Speaker 11: there's a lot of debate as to revenant. Some of

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Speaker 11: those same tactics take place today, and I would say

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Speaker 11: in the southern part of our country, to ampsays absolutely yes,

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Speaker 11: you know, you know, they're not literacy tests, but there

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Speaker 11: are all types of obstacles that many African Americans have

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Speaker 11: faced with in order to access the voting voting box.

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Speaker 11: The other thing to real proof in the putting is

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Speaker 11: how many African Americans have been elected to Congress from

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Speaker 11: Let's just take Louisiana for example, zero, not one, how

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Speaker 11: many have run many? So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 11: you know, and to move the tests from you know,

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Speaker 11: is it has to show intent and not affect. You know,

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Speaker 11: I just think that's wrong too, because you know, who's

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Speaker 11: to determine what was the intent of the legislature? You know,

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Speaker 11: what about what's the effect of what.

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Speaker 12: The legislation did?

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Speaker 11: And in this case, you know, I was in the

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Speaker 11: legislature when the veal passed. You know that we we're

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Speaker 11: from a state that has you know, Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 11: the majority leader, and one you know one of the

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Speaker 11: I mean only one female member of Congress. The members

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Speaker 11: of the legislature wanted to protect those individuals, and that's

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Speaker 11: perfectly clear, I mean, okay, and thus that's why the

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Speaker 11: district ended up the way it ended up.

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Speaker 12: I just think it's a horrible decision.

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Speaker 11: And what's worse to postpone the elections that had already start.

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Speaker 11: Thought it that disenfranchised and I hope the court ultimately

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Speaker 11: rule that you just can't hold up the elections. You

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Speaker 11: need to go for what because they had already started

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Speaker 11: that they all had already want.

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Speaker 3: I said I'd start micro and I'm going to go macro.

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Speaker 3: I think a consequence of this is a level of

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Speaker 3: confusion about the way that congressional districts are drawn in

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Speaker 3: this country and when they're drawn. And perhaps that's the

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Speaker 3: point that politicians are trying to sow confusion among the

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Speaker 3: electric But I matched its incumbent upon you and other

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Speaker 3: Democrats now at this moment to explain to voters why

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Speaker 3: this as you see it as a bad judgment, it

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Speaker 3: needs to change. What's your prescription for doing that going forward?

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Speaker 3: What did Democrats need to do here is they look

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Speaker 3: at a voting rights Act that has been, as I said,

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Speaker 3: hollowed out, not just by this decision that affected Section two,

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Speaker 3: but other facets of it as well well.

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Speaker 11: I would think that the next Congress, the new Congress,

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Speaker 11: should pass a voting rights Act that really a half teeth,

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Speaker 11: don't leave anything up a question.

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Speaker 12: For the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 11: Make it clear, clear and unambiguous, you know, and really

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Speaker 11: deal with Section five. Section five was gut it what

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Speaker 11: twenty thirteen through to hold the case. Five was so

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Speaker 11: important to states like Louisiana. We could always depend on

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Speaker 11: the federal government to defend us.

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Speaker 12: When we were you know, when our vote, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, when legislators were trampling on our rights to access to.

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Speaker 12: Voting box, you know, and that is very very important.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Section five,

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Speaker 11: and then when they took that away section two. And

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Speaker 11: I tell people all the time, if you tell me

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Speaker 11: I got to run a certain speed, I could perhaps

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Speaker 11: do that. Tell me I got to jump with a

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Speaker 11: certain height, you know, I could perhaps do that. But

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Speaker 11: if you tell me I have to be white to

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Speaker 11: be a member of Congress, I need help from the

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Speaker 11: federal government. And thus that's the whole purpose of the

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Speaker 11: voting rights side, and I think the Spring Court was

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Speaker 11: just out so we're wrong. I think Congress should move

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Speaker 11: with all expedient feeds to pass the John Lewis voting

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Speaker 11: rights back and just leave nothing for question but a

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Speaker 11: Supreme Court and not to mint it. I really think

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Speaker 11: at this day and age, we need to probably put

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Speaker 11: term limits on the Supreme Court because these justices are

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Speaker 11: now acting ask the lawmakers, and they ought not do that.

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Speaker 11: They are there only to interpret the law, not to

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Speaker 11: make it. And there are too many justices that are

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Speaker 11: making law in this country. And I do think that,

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Speaker 11: you know, there should be some question asked the revenant.

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Speaker 11: You know, Supreme Court justices of limited in terms of

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Speaker 11: their terms.

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Speaker 2: Kris, Before we let you go, I do want to

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Speaker 2: ask you when you look at the wider map and

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Speaker 2: these re districting efforts. Obviously, this latest round kicked off

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Speaker 2: in Texas where they redistrict to get five GP votes.

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Speaker 2: Then that was countered in California where they got five

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Speaker 2: Democratic potential districts. Virginia has got five new potential Democratic

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Speaker 2: district Florida will likely get four, and there's a couple

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Speaker 2: handful of others in Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, and Utah.

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Speaker 2: I am a surprising, possibly democratic district in Utah. But

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you have any concerns that you might

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Speaker 2: be trying to win the battle and lose the war

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Speaker 2: as you open the floodgates for more redistricting, more of

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Speaker 2: this gerrymandering, and if that's partly responsible for the bipartisan

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Speaker 2: nature of politics in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a race to the bottom.

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Speaker 11: It's you know, when a president of the United States

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Speaker 11: picks up the phone and call the governor of Texas

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Speaker 11: to say, I need five more Republican seats, and then

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Speaker 11: the governor of Texas just the right call the legislature intercession.

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Speaker 12: To do just that.

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Speaker 11: You know, what, do you think wherever there is an action,

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Speaker 11: there's always a reaction, and then Democrats react to that. Look,

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Speaker 11: we shouldn't have mid Dick Miami mid decade redistricting. We

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Speaker 11: just really shouldn't have it. The whole purpose of redistricting

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Speaker 11: is based on this census that every ten years, we

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Speaker 11: have census in this country and we apportion, you know,

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Speaker 11: seats based on population, and we shouldn't have mid decade

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Speaker 11: redistricting in this country is too political and it's wrong

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Speaker 11: and it's not fair to voters. It just brings about

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Speaker 11: more voter confusion. You know, people don't know who their

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Speaker 11: representatives are, and I just think we need to stop it,

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Speaker 11: and we need to stop it, like right now.

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Speaker 3: A quick question unrelated to this. You sit on the

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Speaker 3: House Financial Services Committee or on the sub Committee on

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Speaker 3: Financialstitutions and Monetary Policy. You're here on Bloomberg. I want

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Speaker 3: to ask you about the news of the week that

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Speaker 3: is that Federal Reserve Church around Paler is going to

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Speaker 3: stick around as governor going forward. What do you make

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Speaker 3: of that decision? And now that that investigation by the

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Speaker 3: dj has been punted over to the Inspector General at

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Speaker 3: the FEDERI are you satisfied? Like it seems like Senator

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Speaker 3: Tom Tillis of North Carolina was that the institution and

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Speaker 3: the soon to be former chair no longer is imperiled.

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Speaker 3: They might have been a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, look, we have to put in confidence

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Speaker 11: in our financial institutions. And I'm happy that Chairman Pole

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Speaker 11: is sticking around. There's no reason for him to leave.

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Speaker 11: That was really no purpose in the investigation to begin with,

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Speaker 11: and we got to stop weaponizing the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 12: You know, I mean that that was just wrong.

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Speaker 11: You know, if you don't like somebody, if the president

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Speaker 11: doesn't like somebody in this country, he's seeks the.

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Speaker 12: Justice Department on the person.

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Speaker 11: You know, that was that was an unfair, you know,

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Speaker 11: Unamerican attack to begin with.

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Speaker 12: And chairman power.

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Speaker 11: Should stay as long as the law gives them the

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Speaker 11: right to stay.

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Speaker 3: And O the Carson. Thank you very much. That's clear

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Speaker 3: Field's Cars with the sixth District of Louisiana joining us

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Speaker 3: on this Sunday, Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend right

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 5: Maria Sharapova, she is a tennis legend, right.

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Speaker 4: She made history in two thousand and four, she became

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Speaker 4: the youngest tennis star to win a Grand Slam since

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Speaker 4: Martina Higgins in nineteen ninety seven. Now two decades later,

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Speaker 4: she's now a Hall of Famer, a mom, she's venturing

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Speaker 4: into this new arena. She's serving up compelling interviews for

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Speaker 4: her new podcast. Yeah, I spoke with her about her

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Speaker 4: career then and now.

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Speaker 13: I really had a steely mentality from the beginning because

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Speaker 13: I knew I moved for a purpose. I wanted to

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Speaker 13: build on a dream with a lot of hope, but

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Speaker 13: also recognizing that it might not go our way and

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Speaker 13: you might take a path that might not get you

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Speaker 13: to the very top. But ultimately, with a few twists

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Speaker 13: and turns and a little bit of good luck and

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Speaker 13: hard work, we persevered and I was able to win

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Speaker 13: a Grand Slam when I was seventeen years old and

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Speaker 13: really build from that. It took me a little bit

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Speaker 13: of time to us to kind of fame and getting

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Speaker 13: my confidence and performing week in week out, but yeah,

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Speaker 13: it was a beautiful journey.

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Speaker 4: Oh and speaking of the journey, the International Tennis Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame, that is quite the accomplishment there. And you

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Speaker 4: were introduced by Serena Williams. You guys have had this

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Speaker 4: interesting relationship back and forth. Talk a little bit more

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Speaker 4: about it and how that relationship has evolved over the

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Speaker 4: years as women.

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Speaker 13: Well, I had some of the toughest matches against Serena

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Speaker 13: and she was the ultimate competitor. I got to become

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Speaker 13: a better player because of the level that she performed

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Speaker 13: at every single day, and I had one of my

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Speaker 13: biggest victories in my career. At Wimbledon, I also had

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Speaker 13: some of my toughest losses against her. So we went

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Speaker 13: through a lot, and I, you know, when the Hall

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Speaker 13: of Fame called and said, you know, is there someone

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Speaker 13: that you'd like to introduce you on stage, she was

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Speaker 13: the first person I thought of. Because of our rivalry,

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Speaker 13: because of the respect we have and everything we've gone through.

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Speaker 4: What I love about you two is your competitive edge.

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Speaker 4: Everyone knows you for it. Even had this name tag

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Speaker 4: along with you, the ice coin.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 5: Now, what was your first reaction when you heard that?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I pumped my fist. From a very young age, like,

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Speaker 13: I had a very steely mentality. I was focused and

665
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Speaker 13: I was on a different path. The truth is is

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Speaker 13: even when I trained at you know, academies with many

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Speaker 13: other children, I recognize that I was like the odd

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Speaker 13: one out. I would train extra hours, I would get

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Speaker 13: extra attention from coaches. I played every single tournament I could,

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Speaker 13: like I was the first one in bed at night,

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Speaker 13: the first one awake in the morning. So I knew

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Speaker 13: from an early age that I had I had a goal,

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Speaker 13: like I was there to do something different and to

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Speaker 13: be a champion. Whether that would happen or not who knows.

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Speaker 13: There are no guarantees in life, and I like.

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Speaker 6: The idea of being different.

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Speaker 13: You know, I now have a mother of a three

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Speaker 13: and a half year old, and you know, I see

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Speaker 13: a little boy who wants to be part of the

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Speaker 13: pack and part of with his friends, and sometimes I think, well,

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Speaker 13: I want to encourage him to be unique and find

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Speaker 13: things that makes him stand out and not be scourage,

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Speaker 13: you know, to appreciate things that make you different.

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Speaker 4: And it seems like it goes right into what you're

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Speaker 4: doing now, into your podcast. Yeah, pretty tough, because women

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Speaker 4: out there, if we strive for something, you know, it

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Speaker 4: seems like we're kind of I wouldn't say put down,

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Speaker 4: but just like we're told, you know.

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Speaker 5: What, take it easy. Yes? Is that the reason behind

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Speaker 5: how you started this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: So I've been working on the podcast Pretty Tough for

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Speaker 13: many months with Vox Media, and the idea really resonated well.

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Speaker 13: First of all, with so many of my mom friends,

695
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Speaker 13: like coming off of careers, having children and always being identified.

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Speaker 6: With one thing and one trait.

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Speaker 13: And from a young age, I was identified with that

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Speaker 13: fist pump like this steally mentality that I was cold

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Speaker 13: and then I'd go into a boardroom and I'd have,

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Speaker 13: you know, an opinion, or I'd have a joke and

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Speaker 13: someone would say, oh, well you have a sense of humor,

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Speaker 13: and so you're you know, I always found that you

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Speaker 13: were identified with one or the other and you had

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Speaker 13: to soften your filter for whichever identity wasn't appreciated as

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Speaker 13: you know, part of your characteristic And so when I

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Speaker 13: spoke with my friends and I was building the concept,

707
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Speaker 13: it really resonated with a lot of women. And this

708
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Speaker 13: podcast is for women by women, and I now get

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Speaker 13: to sit and ask questions, which.

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Speaker 6: Is you know, is that I had to.

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Speaker 13: Unlearn and learn and I you know, I love preparation.

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Speaker 13: That's what I did for my entire career. And now

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Speaker 13: I get to learn about incredible women and hopefully we

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Speaker 13: can draw these wonderful lessons from these amazing females.

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Speaker 4: Who are some of the women that that you plan

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Speaker 4: to speak with and what are some of those stories

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Speaker 4: that that really resonated with you.

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Speaker 13: I want the stories to be honest, to be authentic.

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Speaker 13: I want to hear I want to hear the story

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Speaker 13: before the success because we all see, you know, we

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Speaker 13: all see someone accepting the oscar and we think. You know,

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Speaker 13: we just we launched Pretty Tough with Zoe's Aldana, and

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Speaker 13: you know, she speaks about the oscar, But the moment

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Speaker 13: until that point is that's the That's the part I

725
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Speaker 13: want to learn about. I want to know how her

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Speaker 13: about you know, her ballet and dance informed the movements

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Speaker 13: of all her move of all the movies that she's

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Speaker 13: performed in aging. You know, what is it like to

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Speaker 13: be a mom? What is it like to you know,

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Speaker 13: to have guilt as we navigate careers and motherhood and

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Speaker 13: all the things that you know, society throws at us.

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Speaker 13: And yeah, I you know, honesty is the first thing

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Speaker 13: that I want.

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Speaker 6: I want the conversations to have.

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Speaker 4: Podcasting it seems like it's it's a category that's that's

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Speaker 4: dominated by men. I know, a lot of statistics point

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Speaker 4: to that.

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Speaker 5: Viare why do you think that is?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I consume podcasts that are hosted by men,

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Speaker 13: and I think there are phenomenal podcasts that are hosted

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Speaker 13: by men. But I do think there's a lot of

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Speaker 13: room for female hosted podcasts. And there I mean, when

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Speaker 13: I think of kar Swisher and Mel Robbins, these are

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Speaker 13: icons in the field. But I think there's more room

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Speaker 13: in the sandbox.

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Speaker 4: And you also have another name as entrepreneur. At the

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Speaker 4: same time, you work with brands, you invest in companies.

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Speaker 4: What's more nerve wracking for you? Is it walking to

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Speaker 4: the tennis court or walking into a boardroom.

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Speaker 13: Well, I've appreciated walking into a boardroom because it's a

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Speaker 13: different kind it's a different energy, and you know, there's

752
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Speaker 13: no match point feeling, you know, when everything's on the

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Speaker 13: line in that meeting or or that tennis court or

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Speaker 13: that arena. I love the teamwork that business. You know,

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Speaker 13: I feel like so many of the lessons that I

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Speaker 13: learned through my career I get to apply to the boardroom.

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Speaker 13: But coming in and speaking with co Fertility or Amulet

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Speaker 13: or Tonal or their Body, all the brands that I've been,

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Speaker 13: you know, fortunate to be a part of Balla Bangles

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Speaker 13: and just feel like I can participate and incorporate some

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Speaker 13: of the ideas and the education and knowledge that I've

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Speaker 13: learned along the way.

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Speaker 5: And what does a win look like for you today?

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Speaker 13: Oh, a win is when my son is happy, when

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Speaker 13: I'm with my family. You know, I spent twenty eight

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Speaker 13: years on the tour training you know, day and day out,

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Speaker 13: and it's been nice to have a zoomed out view

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Speaker 13: of that. And now I'm invested into this the podcast space.

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Speaker 13: I'm you know, I'm I'm competitive. I have a competitive spirit,

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Speaker 13: and I want to do it right and I want

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Speaker 13: to do it well, and so I'm pouring all my

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Speaker 13: time into it to make sure that I have quality

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Speaker 13: content to produce for the audience.

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Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg This Weekend.

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Speaker 3: Right after this, Welcome back to Bloomber This Weekend or

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Speaker 3: BTW as I.

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Speaker 2: Say, that's right, bt Doubs David with Cristida Raffini.

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Speaker 3: Here are some stories you might have missed this week.

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Speaker 3: Lisa Mateo has those bt W.

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Speaker 4: Yes, let's get ready to do it, Okay, I want

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Speaker 4: to start with this one from the New York Times.

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Speaker 4: It's the headline is with the arrival of Goop Kitchen,

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Speaker 4: is New York going full correct So it's like a

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Speaker 4: healthy eating food chain. It started in Los Angeles, like

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, but she's brought it to New York,

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Speaker 4: so it's come to New York for the first time.

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Speaker 3: So it's there.

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Speaker 12: You have thounds and bowls.

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Speaker 5: If I want to buy sixty dollars.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Nothing on the menu includes gluten, refined sugar.

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Speaker 5: Seeds, corns, or peanuts. We're preservative yea. So it's very clean,

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Speaker 5: very clean, okay.

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Speaker 4: But the whole point of the story is that how

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Speaker 4: New Yorkers are opening up their palette to this LA

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Speaker 4: trend that seems to be coming because a lot of

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Speaker 4: LA restaurants are now making their way to New York

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Speaker 4: and they're saying, well, New York's only we are only

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Speaker 4: like pizzas and hot dogs, that's what they're saying. And

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Speaker 4: they say, oh, you know what, So they're opening it

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Speaker 4: up their palette to to something better and something new.

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Speaker 3: I ordered this online?

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Speaker 5: What do I do?

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Speaker 3: How do I get this food?

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 7: You go?

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Speaker 5: It's it's only you could only get it on like online.

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Speaker 4: You can't sit and eat in the place. You have

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Speaker 4: to go and like order it. But sometimes there's a line.

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Speaker 4: I don't you don't do lines.

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Speaker 3: They don't know that about New York yet, although we

812
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Speaker 3: have a lot of Californians to come here to wait

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Speaker 3: in line.

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Speaker 6: So I guess you have to order it like they're

815
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Speaker 6: from lag. You have to use vocal frye to order it.

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Speaker 6: I like my stylid.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 4: I have not tried it, but it does look appetizing.

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Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I don't know the prices.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen their price.

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Speaker 3: They went by very quickly, a.

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Speaker 5: New York's expensive. It didn't look that egregious.

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Speaker 4: But true, true, true, Okay. I want to go from

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Speaker 4: food to like shows and cruise ships. Okay, because you've

825
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Speaker 4: ever been on a cruise, you know the shows are

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Speaker 4: the big things.

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Speaker 5: So this is the headline from the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: It says, the cutthroat competition to get a gig on

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Speaker 4: a cruise ship.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

831
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Speaker 4: So there's apparently this annual convention. It's like America's got talent,

832
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Speaker 4: and all the bookers go there, Yes, cruise bookers. So

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Speaker 4: they go and they look at all the talent that's

834
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Speaker 4: out there, and they pick them for the ships that are,

835
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Speaker 4: you know, coming up.

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Speaker 5: So these people, I mean, what they get if they

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Speaker 5: land a gig. So you ever wonder like what they get?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So they get to stay in the normal staterooms,

839
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Speaker 4: they don't stay in the crew quarters.

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Speaker 5: Okay. They get to enjoy maybe.

841
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Speaker 4: There's dining, the swimming pools, they get to enjoy all

842
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Speaker 4: the amenities, and a one week contract can pay like

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Speaker 4: thousands of dollars for them.

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Speaker 5: So it's not a gig if you can get it.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I have never been on a cruise.

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Speaker 2: I've never go on a cruise, but I danced growing up,

848
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Speaker 2: and I know this is a good gig because even

849
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Speaker 2: like twenty years ago, like this was a good job

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Speaker 2: to get because first of all, you're booked, like your

851
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Speaker 2: book through six months.

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Speaker 6: That's six months of work.

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Speaker 2: And I think then they made him stay in the

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Speaker 2: state rooms, but it was you got insurance, you got food,

855
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Speaker 2: you had all that stuff, and you could pay your

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Speaker 2: bills for.

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Speaker 12: Like a year and a half norivirus.

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Speaker 6: Looking on the positive side, David Fashion.

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Speaker 4: Of here today, I wanted to't go to this next story.

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Speaker 5: This is from Bloomberg. Okay, so the headline is you

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Speaker 5: ready for this? Got o zempic breath.

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Speaker 4: Sure, she sees GOLP one lift for mint and gum. Okay,

863
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Speaker 4: so you heard of like ozempic face, like people lose

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Speaker 4: theirs a little bit. Yeah yeah, yeah, So this one

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Speaker 4: is ozempic breath because Hershey's CEO, he said that GLP ones.

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Speaker 4: They're boosting sales for mint and gum. Like you know,

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Speaker 4: they have the icebreakers gum, so that's a big thing

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Speaker 4: for them. The reason why is because GLP one drugs,

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Speaker 4: they slowed down digestion. Okay, so you can spirit some

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Speaker 4: side effects like maybe dry mouth, nausea, things like that,

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Speaker 4: and so that's where the ozembic breath comes in.

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Speaker 5: So you got to grab a mintor piece of gum.

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Speaker 5: It's helping out her.

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Speaker 3: Because there's been, as we've talked about, such widespread adoption

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Speaker 3: of these, but you like learn of these side effects

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Speaker 3: as it goes along. So I have heard complaints about nausea,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's not easy for everybody who's

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Speaker 3: who's on these. But I had not heard of his

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Speaker 3: zempic breath.

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Speaker 2: I had heard a breath, but my friend said he

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Speaker 2: had like a terrible taste in his mouth the whole

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Speaker 2: time he took it. So he was taking months all

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Speaker 2: the time just to get rid of you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: in your blood sugar drops. I don't know if that's related,

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Speaker 2: but like you get a bitter taste in your mouth.

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Speaker 2: He said he just tastes constantly, constantly, he felt like

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Speaker 2: he tasted.

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Speaker 5: Something terrible in his mouth. Interesting, So it's helping out hers,

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Speaker 5: it's doing them a good deal.

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Speaker 3: You know, run on gum.

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Speaker 5: All right, this one, David, this one's for you.

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Speaker 6: So this is from the Weekend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the Weekend. Yes, forget health span.

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Speaker 4: Midlife men face pressure to extend hot spin, hot span,

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Speaker 4: hot span.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they're saying that millennial men they grew up thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we don't have to worry about a health looks, you know, retirement.

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Speaker 6: Things like that.

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Speaker 5: Instead you have to say hot for like several more decades. Statement. Okay,

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Speaker 5: so you need to work on this.

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Speaker 3: This is like this is really not so.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it's a journey.

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Speaker 6: Is a dangerous approach.

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Speaker 5: No, but they spoke with plastic surgeons.

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Speaker 4: You have to check out this article. Okay, they're saying

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Speaker 4: midlife has shifted, writes. So patients in their fifties are

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Speaker 4: training for triathlons. You know, they're starting companies, they're they're

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Speaker 4: they're dating after divorce, they're raising young kids. Like, they're

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Speaker 4: doing all these things at an older age, and they're

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Speaker 4: obsessed with longevity, Like do you go to the gym

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Speaker 4: to I'm not going.

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Speaker 3: To answer these questions.

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Speaker 5: For you.

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Speaker 7: What are you?

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Speaker 5: What are you eating?

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Speaker 3: I guess I have to wait time in my fifties

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Speaker 3: all of this stuff. Maybe that's the silver lining I

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Speaker 3: can see in all of this. You have like Tom

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Speaker 3: Cruise up there. So this is why these are celebs

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Speaker 3: who are.

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Speaker 5: Still still still looking good, still looking good, still looking good.

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Speaker 2: Fifty now, still look and it's alligan pretty good.

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Speaker 4: It is another like they're talking about this thing because

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Speaker 4: you are women talk about menopause.

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Speaker 5: They have menopause now. The men are usually.

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Speaker 3: All of the new terms here on the show, hot spanning, manopause.

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Speaker 5: Bringing it all to you.

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Speaker 4: But people pay a lot of money for some of this, Okay,

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Speaker 4: get this, six thousand dollars a year for a good

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Speaker 4: doctor who can work on your biomarkers, okay. Or you

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Speaker 4: can pay three hundred and twenty dollars a month to

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Speaker 4: spend on peptides, so we.

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Speaker 3: Can do that as peptides. I'm very skeptical. No, I

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Speaker 3: don't think they're like approved by any.

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Speaker 6: Rate schedule of the biomarkers too.

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Speaker 2: I had some girlfriends do it and they're like, my

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Speaker 2: physical age is seventeen.

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Speaker 6: I was like, they just want you to pay them again.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 3: For a second, and I did see that piece. Chris

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Speaker 3: wrote that for pursuits it's worth.

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Speaker 5: It's excellent, it really is.

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Speaker 3: It's the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Of course, you're not.

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Speaker 6: Afraid of the manosphere and the man of wait, what

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Speaker 6: is it called? What do we just call it?

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Speaker 2: He's not spanning, manopase, man panning.

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Speaker 6: All right, one of those things.

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