Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's
Speaker 1: Papas and Olivia Arlan Decker. Welcome and everybody. This is
Speaker 1: Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. In
Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty six is officially set. And yes, I
Speaker 1: had to write out fifty six because I can never
Speaker 1: read the Roman numerals with Super Bowls. I always just
Speaker 1: bypass it and usually say what city it was in
Speaker 1: when referring to the Super Bowl. Honestly, we need like
Speaker 1: flash cards. I'm really bad at the Roman numerals. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Los Angeles Rams in the Cincinnati Bengals. Wow,
Speaker 1: even just saying that out loud, who would have thought?
Speaker 1: Did you think? No? I mean, no Brady, no Rogers,
Speaker 1: no Mahomes, no Josh Allen. We're going with Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow Baby and fifty six actually the age
Speaker 1: I believe of our upcoming guests. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: point that out. It's a very random fact. You're always
Speaker 1: good for a random fact. Don't kind of started on Dulye.
Speaker 1: You told me about fossil fuels and dinosaurs and all that. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Rams opened as a three and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite on bed MGM on Sunday night, so you could
Speaker 1: go as early as Sunday night and get a minus
Speaker 1: three and a half. Now they are four point favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that number will continue to move a couple
Speaker 1: of points, so we're going to monitor that over our
Speaker 1: next two shows. Although those Bengals have covered seven straight
Speaker 1: games and outright one it's last five games as underdogs.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible. I've got to say my early feeling,
Speaker 1: if I'm to put money on this game today, I'm
Speaker 1: taking the Bengals plus four, and if it creeps up anymore,
Speaker 1: all the better. I think it'll be really close. But
Speaker 1: we've got ends the time to think about it. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. I've also got to say I'm
Speaker 1: happy in this game whoever wins. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: to sound really soft. Both of my teams are out
Speaker 1: of it, so I don't care. Honest, your team was
Speaker 1: never even in the conversation. But I just I love
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in the Bengals. But I want this for
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. What's your like early feel? I want this
Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow. I'm going to I think it's a
Speaker 1: great game to put some money on for the quote
Speaker 1: unquote underdog there on a roll. Just like you said.
Speaker 1: I love the story. I love the turtleneck, I love
Speaker 1: the swag, I love I love his pedigree. The kid's winner.
Speaker 1: I love his confidence. It's all about Joe Burrow right now, man.
Speaker 1: And uh, everyone's gonna get Joe Burrow fever. You're gonna
Speaker 1: see this kid on Wheati's boxes. He's gonna be everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. When we were watching the game,
Speaker 1: my mom says to me, do you think Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: has ever considered a spray Tand she was dead serious. Now,
Speaker 1: he is a little pasty, I will say that, but
Speaker 1: as someone who uses a lot of fake tanning products,
Speaker 1: I can always hook him up. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: one quick Matt Stafford story, which is why I've been
Speaker 1: a fan of him forever. Yeah, hopefully it doesn't involve you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does involve me. Why would it not? And so
Speaker 1: obviously he's a Georgia guy. He's the number one overall
Speaker 1: pick out of Georgia. He married his college sweetheart, who
Speaker 1: was a Georgia cheerleader. I went to Georgia. I was
Speaker 1: friends with her cousin. Yeah, her her cousin was my
Speaker 1: grade at Georgia. Anyways, one time when I was working
Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Hawks, we had a game at Detroit
Speaker 1: and the Pistons. I was in the hotel lobby and
Speaker 1: I was walking out. I was gonna go meet some
Speaker 1: of our ownership group and some of our media and
Speaker 1: all that. We were having a big team dinner in Detroit.
Speaker 1: So I'm walking down at our hotel in Birmingham, Detroit, Birmingham, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and Kelly Stafford's in the lobby and she's really really
Speaker 1: pregnant with twins there first, and I kind of went
Speaker 1: up and introduced myself. I was friends with Merit in
Speaker 1: college and blah blah blah, big fan of you, a
Speaker 1: matt and blah blah. She was so nice. We talked,
Speaker 1: talk talk. All of a sudden, a big truck pulls
Speaker 1: up to pick her up, like one of those lifted
Speaker 1: big trucks, and it's Matthew Stafford and he's coming to
Speaker 1: pick up his wife. She was interviewing Nanny's. Anyways, we
Speaker 1: say hi, thanks, great luck next season, blah blah. I
Speaker 1: start walking a couple of blocks, snowstorm freezing Detroit, and
Speaker 1: they leave. They pull away. All of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: truck circles back around and they rolled down the window
Speaker 1: and they say, Olivia, get in, we'll we'll drop you
Speaker 1: off at your restaurant. I was like, Wow, are these
Speaker 1: nice people? I jump in the car, we chat a
Speaker 1: little bit. It was like three blocks. I get out
Speaker 1: to go to my dinner and it's like Dominique Wilkins
Speaker 1: and all of our Hawks people. And I sit down
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of stunned, and I go, you guys
Speaker 1: are never going to guess who just dropped me off
Speaker 1: at this dinner. I was. It was so cool, And
Speaker 1: that's my one encounter with them as a couple, and
Speaker 1: I just think they are real salt of the earth people.
Speaker 1: What they did with that ticket giveaway for this last game,
Speaker 1: I thought was really cool. How can you root against
Speaker 1: a guy like that, well, you know, who knows? Maybe
Speaker 1: he was moonlighting as an uber driver and did you
Speaker 1: give him five stars? Were they good? I didn't, and
Speaker 1: and he was a lion at the time. I'm a
Speaker 1: huge Packer fan. I can't believe I got in the
Speaker 1: car with a lion. Anyway, I wanted to share that story.
Speaker 1: But just because they are, they're not, you know, fake ease.
Speaker 1: And in a world where so many of these people
Speaker 1: are so fake, they are not so perhaps Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: he never had won a playoff game and now he's
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. It's pretty incredible. Two great stories,
Speaker 1: two great stories. And Cooper Cups a great story too.
Speaker 1: Underdog his his woman too stuck by him through all
Speaker 1: those hard years for supporting him, for him to fulfill
Speaker 1: his dream. Nobody saw him coming. Now he's arguably the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. And also if bet MGM
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Speaker 1: trying to help you guys with your social media. There
Speaker 1: was a clip of his wife running towards him at
Speaker 1: the end after the victory and jumping his two into
Speaker 1: his arms. If you don't make that into a dirty
Speaker 1: dancing meme and put that song over it when she
Speaker 1: jumps into his arms, then you know what, you're all fired. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a great moment. I mean I live for that.
Speaker 1: The family coming out on the field to congratulate the player,
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. Oh b J is also a great story.
Speaker 1: O h D. That is a great story. O h D.
Speaker 1: Has to give it up to oh b J. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guys playing in his hometown, you know, written off
Speaker 1: and now he's a huge part of that offense and
Speaker 1: playing unbelievable. So it's incredible and you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: go wild. I'm predicting the Super Bowl. You're gonna see
Speaker 1: an unleashed O b J. Now that's the that's what
Speaker 1: I worry about almost I worry. You know, it's Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford's first time there, Cooper Cup oh b J. Like, wait,
Speaker 1: did ob J win with the Giants? No? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, But that too soon? So yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want anyone to try to do too much,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, I think his role
Speaker 1: with the Rams protects him from that a little bit
Speaker 1: because he's really not the first option. So no, he's
Speaker 1: not a quantity guy. He's a quality guy with him. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Well boy, we had a great week just watching these
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Speaker 1: much to get to. Let's do our favorite segment of
Speaker 1: the show. Jannas papas it's time. It's time. Let's take
Speaker 1: the chains off and unleak y'all. You're up first, my friend.
Speaker 1: All right, Olivia, we were so close to getting an
Speaker 1: absolute star studded spectacle of a Super Bowl, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: between the Chiefs and the Rams, but I gotta say
Speaker 1: in this one. You know, I'm no Chiefs fan, but
Speaker 1: I gotta say it wasn't so much that you know,
Speaker 1: the Bengals one. It's more I think that the Chiefs lost.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were on the road to victory, but
Speaker 1: big fat Andy Reid had other ideas. We don't listen
Speaker 1: same on the show or height shame. I just did
Speaker 1: because I'm fat too. So it's not you know, it's
Speaker 1: fat on fat crime. It works. It's okay, I'm fat
Speaker 1: too right now? Yeah you are. Um, I don't mean that.
Speaker 1: I just mean you're pregnant right now. I feel like
Speaker 1: Kanye the m As right now. Bengals. Um, So, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I'm happy for you and everything. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you finish. But just give me a second. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are the greatest offense of all time. Okay, first
Speaker 1: of all, let's talk about leaving points on the board
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. Could have gone
Speaker 1: up twenty four to ten, but instead Andy Reid let's
Speaker 1: mahomes go for it. Or it was Mahomes is called
Speaker 1: who knows and the play called didn't even make it
Speaker 1: to the end zone. Maybe that was on Mahomes, Like
Speaker 1: I said, but this is the playoffs. We know every
Speaker 1: point matters. Just kicked the three, you know, get points
Speaker 1: on the board. And then in the second half the
Speaker 1: Chiefs took their foot off the gas that couldn't convert
Speaker 1: third downs. Andy Reid was making sushi at gas station level,
Speaker 1: bad decisions in my opinion, And now he wasted another
Speaker 1: year of Mahomes in his prime, another year where you know,
Speaker 1: the focus was on him and not Jackson. Mahomes probably
Speaker 1: going to prison for whatever crime he's going to commit
Speaker 1: in the future. The only reason I'm not more upset
Speaker 1: is because I called it and I won the punishment
Speaker 1: picks this week. I did take the Bengals because I'm
Speaker 1: schmot so unlike Andy Reid again, I looked like a genius.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy, I mean Mahomes. It was like
Speaker 1: the fumble and then basically through two interception passes, I
Speaker 1: mean the one, it was almost like he didn't do
Speaker 1: over like he said, guys, I'm gonna give you another.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that ag and and you guys can
Speaker 1: intercept this one. So it was just brutal, brutal watch
Speaker 1: They played horrible, but shout out to the Bengals. You know,
Speaker 1: but I just gotta say, I think the Chiefs lost
Speaker 1: this more than than the Bengals won. Yeah. It's almost
Speaker 1: like when they won the coin toss in overtime and
Speaker 1: they started with the ball. I was more nervous. It
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, they just looked horrible in the last
Speaker 1: couple of drives on offense and and Mahomes just scrambling
Speaker 1: for his life, losing yardage. I don't know what was
Speaker 1: going on. It looked obviously like Nolan was open, but
Speaker 1: I don't know where. He didn't throw it away. He
Speaker 1: just eating up clock and running backwards. It was it
Speaker 1: was hard to watch as a Chiefs fan. It looked
Speaker 1: Mahomes looked like he did during their losing streak, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He went back, he regressed. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. And I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, you know, we got plenty, plenty of
Speaker 1: years with Mahomes. We don't have that many years with
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. He's like thirty three, thirty four. I just
Speaker 1: feel like, and then you look at free agents who
Speaker 1: are up. I think Tyreek kills up this year. So
Speaker 1: it was a shame to watch the Chiefs go down.
Speaker 1: I feel like they should be in this game, to
Speaker 1: be honest, but they looked really uncharacteristic and they they did.
Speaker 1: They lost it. It was hard. It was hard to watch.
Speaker 1: They actually looked like you'd expect that from the Bengals
Speaker 1: who haven't been there. You know, they almost looked at
Speaker 1: the team that hadn't been there making those types of
Speaker 1: decisions and mistakes. So it was very ironic. It was
Speaker 1: it was ironic. Okay, my turn, and this has been
Speaker 1: the weirdest story to follow. It's obviously the one man
Speaker 1: who could steal headlines from the Conference championships, not Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: It's Tom Brady and his almost maybe now confirmed retirement
Speaker 1: that was so weird to watch Tuesday morning. Tom confirmed
Speaker 1: it himself. And I've got to say, for a guy
Speaker 1: who pays the social media team probably a ton of money,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they do such a good job.
Speaker 1: I was wanting some like fireworks. I was wanting a
Speaker 1: really good retirement video. Instead, he kind of put up
Speaker 1: a low budget Instagram slide. It's of you know, like
Speaker 1: he typed on his story, screenshot at it and then
Speaker 1: posted it. Do you know what I mean? Was an IBM,
Speaker 1: a typewriter. And also I kind of would have liked
Speaker 1: a press conference retirement, not a Instagram post. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Tommy, You're not an influencer. You're
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. Like, let's get some cameras,
Speaker 1: let's get some lights, and let's make it very lebron
Speaker 1: esque going to Miami. Yeah, I kind of would have
Speaker 1: liked more of that. Obviously, he had his back against
Speaker 1: the wall. I think he would have waited till after
Speaker 1: the super Bowl to announce it. First of all, these
Speaker 1: guys don't wake up and decide to retire, like when
Speaker 1: he said, I'm going to think about it, I'm going
Speaker 1: to think about it. No, he knew. I bet he
Speaker 1: knew before training camp this year this is it. I
Speaker 1: bet he told some close confidence this is probably it.
Speaker 1: If they had stayed healthy and A B had stayed
Speaker 1: on the field, I think they could have had a shot. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost tough to watch him go out not
Speaker 1: even making the conference championship, Like I wish he had
Speaker 1: gone out last year after the Super Bowl win. Anyways,
Speaker 1: but the whole thing was messy because Schefter broke the news,
Speaker 1: ESPN ran with it, Bruce Arians didn't confirm it. Tom
Speaker 1: obviously didn't confirm it. Tom's dad came out and said,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything from him that this is not
Speaker 1: confirmed yet. So sloppy, It was messy. It was like
Speaker 1: me in college. I just don't really know why this leaked,
Speaker 1: Why Schefter, who's such a pro, would have done that,
Speaker 1: because it put Tom in a bad position, and it
Speaker 1: made it made this whole thing sloppy. And I'm just
Speaker 1: as a fan of football, as a fan of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who's the face of the NFL the last twenty two years.
Speaker 1: You could almost argue he's the face of American sports
Speaker 1: the last twenty two years. Like you go overseas somewhere,
Speaker 1: everyone knows Tom Brady, you know, more than they know
Speaker 1: like a Tiger Woods. Uh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is an international superstar, and I wish he
Speaker 1: had had a little more pomp and circumstance for his
Speaker 1: retire It is that the right phrase, pomp and circumstance. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can we blame chef there a little bit here?
Speaker 1: Can we blame the digital media is rushed to get
Speaker 1: the first to the story. I mean, you'd think the
Speaker 1: right thing to do would be to get a statement
Speaker 1: from him right before you release that news. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the media doesn't have any respect anymore, and
Speaker 1: it pisces me off. I just thought the whole thing
Speaker 1: was was not right, and I would love to ultimately
Speaker 1: hear what led to this, because clearly someone confirmed it.
Speaker 1: And then Ian Rappaport with the NFL. The NFL tweeted
Speaker 1: like the verified NFL account tweeted, thanks Tom Brady for
Speaker 1: all the blah blah blah. So I mean, it clearly
Speaker 1: went through some levels of vetting. I just cannot figure
Speaker 1: out how this went down because it seems very unfair
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady didn't get to break the news himself.
Speaker 1: The timing he would have wanted would have been after
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I think with a proper press
Speaker 1: conference anyways. Also, what's really shady is when Brady did
Speaker 1: finally instagram his retirement, not one mention of the Patriots,
Speaker 1: not one mention, not a good look, which makes me
Speaker 1: think that things there went down way messier than we know.
Speaker 1: We've heard over twenty years in New England that Brady
Speaker 1: and Belichick never once got dinner. I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of sketchy, and that Brady was trying to get a
Speaker 1: b back with the Patriots. Beltic wasn't having it. We
Speaker 1: know that's kind of a factor. There's a lot there.
Speaker 1: Brady kind of fell on the sword for the Flate gate.
Speaker 1: I don't think he feels like the Patriots had his
Speaker 1: back so much. There's there's bad blood there. But you
Speaker 1: know what just on a tangent, too, is you never
Speaker 1: hear Brady talking about it, whereas I feel like I've
Speaker 1: heard an earful from Aaron Rodgers the last couple of
Speaker 1: years of the way he feels. And maybe that's the
Speaker 1: difference between Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, so that that
Speaker 1: could be a whole another unleashed segment. What do you think?
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, and I love the
Speaker 1: little insights you're giving because yeah, I mean that's the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room, right, I mean, he did not
Speaker 1: mention the Patriots at all. There's got to be some
Speaker 1: bad blood, shady stuff there, shady stuff. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get to our guest. It's Derrick Brooks. He
Speaker 1: is a living legend and he has coming to us
Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl, which is one of the big
Speaker 1: shrine games where these college players get to talk, meet, interview,
Speaker 1: and impress NFL scouts, and there are some big names
Speaker 1: on this year's list. It's a little noisy where he's at,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be awesome to pick his brain on
Speaker 1: his prolific career and the upcoming Super Bowl. Let's get
Speaker 1: to Derrek Brooks. Let's go ahead and bring in our guests.
Speaker 1: Over fourteen NFL seasons with the Tampa Bay Bucks, he
Speaker 1: never missed a single game. That's incredible, a total of
Speaker 1: two consecutive games. He's a former Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame, a Super Bowl champion, and
Speaker 1: a National champion. Wow, I'm exhausted just saying that. I
Speaker 1: imagine it was exhausting doing it. Derek Brooks, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, my pleasure. Guys are happy to be here. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Super Bowl and we definitely want
Speaker 1: to talk about your prolific career. But first, you are
Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay insider. What have you been thinking this
Speaker 1: weekend and this week watching Tom Brady's retirement announcement, all
Speaker 1: leading up to him announcing it himself. Well, I think
Speaker 1: one I saluted by clapping. You know, job well done
Speaker 1: for him to be in this position of influence, and
Speaker 1: you think about all the relationships that he's been able
Speaker 1: to have, uh during this time in the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: in awe, to be honest with you, the athletes, all
Speaker 1: those things that speak for themselves and probably not gonna
Speaker 1: see anyone eclipse those in my lifetime. But for me
Speaker 1: to just say that, you know, he's affected this game
Speaker 1: and built tremendous relationships through the competitiveness of being on
Speaker 1: the football field is out standing. And again I salute
Speaker 1: him and and I'm very grateful that he chose to
Speaker 1: come to the Buccaneers two years ago help us win
Speaker 1: our second Super Bowl. Derek, I gotta just emphasize that
Speaker 1: you played every single game of your career at your position.
Speaker 1: How's that even possible? What do you need? Well, You're honest,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if it's all about what I
Speaker 1: eat or what I drink. I just think in my
Speaker 1: career I made it importance to take care of my
Speaker 1: body and make those decisions to do that and now
Speaker 1: you know, taking care of your body is a science.
Speaker 1: Guys are making that investment into doing it to live
Speaker 1: live health your lives. But for me, I just stayed
Speaker 1: on the routine. Uh, knock on some wood somewhere, because
Speaker 1: it definitely was some love and accomplishing that. But to
Speaker 1: go through and play every game of my career with
Speaker 1: no major injuries and and pushing that clock every single day,
Speaker 1: it's something that I took a lot of gratification into
Speaker 1: really once I retired. While I was playing, it was
Speaker 1: all about standing to the moment and making those decisions
Speaker 1: as well as the investment into taking care of my body.
Speaker 1: How do you do that the city like Tampa, how
Speaker 1: do you avoid partying? I mean that's a tough well.
Speaker 1: I was trying to go there by saying making wise decisions. Uh,
Speaker 1: I made wise decisions, you know, through my entertainment actions.
Speaker 1: But for me again, never smoked. Man. I stopped drinking
Speaker 1: in college. I mean that was part of it, but
Speaker 1: it's it's more to that. I mean, from deciding your
Speaker 1: eating habits. You know, you can't be eating certain things,
Speaker 1: you know, late at night during the day. So yes,
Speaker 1: it was a regiment that went it to It is
Speaker 1: I treated everything every single day I got in the
Speaker 1: cold to every single day I got in I signed
Speaker 1: every single day that I was in that facility, and
Speaker 1: I just built a habit in a routine working out yoga,
Speaker 1: which I discovered later in my career, was something that
Speaker 1: I enjoyed and I still do today. So as I said,
Speaker 1: you know, it was those conscious decisions. And again knock
Speaker 1: on wood, because you know there are positions that I
Speaker 1: ended up on a football field that I see guys
Speaker 1: getting hurt every single day when I played, and even
Speaker 1: now that when I was in those positions, I was
Speaker 1: blessed to walk away uninjured. Ye honest, I keep telling
Speaker 1: you to stop smoking, drinking, eating late at night, you
Speaker 1: start working out. That's all I keep telling you. You
Speaker 1: know I've done all that. The problem is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be performing in Tampa, and I think there's just no
Speaker 1: way to avoid eating unhealthy and going to strip. I'm
Speaker 1: glad your wife doesn't listen to the show. I know,
Speaker 1: but that's why I say best decisions. Yeah, yeah, Now, Derek,
Speaker 1: I want to get to the teams you were on,
Speaker 1: especially the O two season. You all allowed just over
Speaker 1: twelve points. Per game that season, you were defensive player
Speaker 1: of the Year. Obviously that defense was so good. Yourself,
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Warren Sap. I've heard you talk about how
Speaker 1: Warren was such a big personality, he was even hard
Speaker 1: to control and practice. Can you give us an example, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily say control in a bad sense. I
Speaker 1: think all of our personalities, you know, for years, was
Speaker 1: part of our strengths. You know, the stage of football
Speaker 1: is big enough for everybody to stand on and be
Speaker 1: yourself and I think that was more so really important
Speaker 1: to me. And being the leader of that team was
Speaker 1: given everybody that personal space to beat themselves at the
Speaker 1: same time they put in the work. It was necessary
Speaker 1: for us to be great. And that's one thing that
Speaker 1: I can't say as bigger personality as Warren Simeon, Ryan's Keyshwan,
Speaker 1: You're Rande John myself, you can go down, you know,
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson, a whole list of them. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we collectively came together and when it
Speaker 1: was time to work, we put in the work. And
Speaker 1: that's to me. Whether the personalities stood out to most,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's me could beating against Michael Side
Speaker 1: and wanted to be the best, you know, whether it
Speaker 1: was Keyshwan and Brian Kelly and Rande Barba going against
Speaker 1: each other, wanted to be the best for bragging rights.
Speaker 1: But that's that's competitiveness brought us together. There were times
Speaker 1: where I had to step back and let them beat themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, and give them the stage to do that.
Speaker 1: And I think, to me, when you could find that
Speaker 1: chemistry on a team, that makes that chemistry go, and
Speaker 1: that sometimes ends up being the secret sauce in terms
Speaker 1: of araderie that most people can't put a finger on
Speaker 1: when they see great teams do it. You mentioned Brad Johnson.
Speaker 1: He was never necessarily a big name quarterback, and we
Speaker 1: see so many teams in the playoffs getting there with
Speaker 1: a big name quarterback. Do you think the quarterback takes
Speaker 1: too much pressure or too much glory after a win?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean in today's game that the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: you know, it starts and in there, I mean, let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest the game and the rules of change
Speaker 1: where that position has so much influence on the outcome.
Speaker 1: Back when I played, yeah, you go down two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three schools game maybe over, you know, because the great
Speaker 1: defense is being played. But as we can see now,
Speaker 1: being down to three touchdowns in today's game is nothing.
Speaker 1: Teams could come back because they have the talent at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and you see the game changing towards that.
Speaker 1: So I would like to say that if Brad was
Speaker 1: playing in today's game, he would make that adjustment, just
Speaker 1: like some players that that I played with say they
Speaker 1: would have made that adjustment. But I like the air
Speaker 1: that I played in where defense was dominant. If we
Speaker 1: if we went out and it was able to keep
Speaker 1: low scoring games, where now the game has adapted and
Speaker 1: you know you gotta dat with the changes that code
Speaker 1: twelve points per games. Do you think quarterbacks should get
Speaker 1: fined when they get hurt because it's like, how did
Speaker 1: you get hurt? Everything is made for you not to
Speaker 1: get hurt. Well, I will say fine when they get hurt,
Speaker 1: but yeah, when they do certain things that cross the line, yeah,
Speaker 1: you treat them the same as everybody else. You know,
Speaker 1: where it's a quarterback celebrating where you shouldn't be. Its taunting,
Speaker 1: Yeah you're fine him, but getting hurt, No, should be
Speaker 1: fine forgetting hurt. You used to hit guys hard. There's
Speaker 1: actually like a great compilation on YouTube of a lot
Speaker 1: of trash talking going on. Things you before you hit
Speaker 1: guys and you knock their lights out, Did you ever
Speaker 1: make a before you blew their lights out? No? No,
Speaker 1: you know what, I probably should have did a little
Speaker 1: bit more wishing me and I have another Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: But then when I listened to those things, I actually
Speaker 1: laughed at myself because I don't remember myself being that
Speaker 1: talkative on the field. And I guess that's why they
Speaker 1: had the video, because I when I'm in the moment,
Speaker 1: I'm in the moment and when I played a playing
Speaker 1: But now when I go back and I see some
Speaker 1: of the the NFL films and YouTube, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I should talk a lot on the field, and I
Speaker 1: never realized that while I was playing. I want to
Speaker 1: go back to that Super Bowl win with the Bucks
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. It was a complete route. The Bucks
Speaker 1: intercepted rich Gannon five times, you ran a pick back
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. People in the theories about that game
Speaker 1: that John Gruden knew what the Raiders were going to do,
Speaker 1: so what was it? Well, John grew knew the personality
Speaker 1: of key players on that team. That's what John did,
Speaker 1: and he he did a great job of laying those
Speaker 1: personalities out to us in practice, and he actually would
Speaker 1: you know, especially got the risk get and he knew
Speaker 1: Rich so well that a couple of times he portrayed
Speaker 1: that personality by playing quarterbacks. That's how in detail, yes,
Speaker 1: that he wanted. It's like, came if we do acts
Speaker 1: we do, why he's gonna show you Z He's gonna
Speaker 1: do t. So he gave us those scenarios based on
Speaker 1: their personalities. And that's what I would tell people when
Speaker 1: they say that no coach didn't know the players, he
Speaker 1: knew their personality. And once we saw that it was
Speaker 1: coming true that what we were doing in our disguises,
Speaker 1: in our manipulations, those personality trades started to showing the game.
Speaker 1: We got on it and we just kept applying the
Speaker 1: pressure and tilted the game and our way. But more importantly,
Speaker 1: we took advantage of those opportunities because that offense that
Speaker 1: year they were number one in the league. Where he
Speaker 1: gave you a chance to get a pick, you picked
Speaker 1: it off. You didn't turn it into a missed opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where our defense doesn't do us
Speaker 1: not get enough credit that we made those opportunities, but
Speaker 1: more poorly we executed and did not miss them when
Speaker 1: they came our way. Speaking of that, I just unleashed
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. I almost feel like the Chiefs this
Speaker 1: last week didn't win as much as they lost that game.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Oh, yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1: You can't just give credit to the Beings. Credit to
Speaker 1: the being goals, can't. You have to? You have to
Speaker 1: give credit to them because one they stayed engaged the
Speaker 1: entire four quarters. The energy never shipped. Now, I do
Speaker 1: think the decision by Kansas City not to kick the
Speaker 1: field goal going into halftime it affected the mindset. I
Speaker 1: personally think that. But I want to give all credit
Speaker 1: man to the Bengals. They made plays when they had to,
Speaker 1: and they did not miss opportunities. The one opportunity they
Speaker 1: did miss was when Patrick Maholes fumbled that last time
Speaker 1: before they kicked the hut go. They didn't jump on
Speaker 1: the fungo and they could have ended the game. But
Speaker 1: the Bengals and Joe Burrows made plays. He punished them
Speaker 1: with this athleticism. So I'm more so on the same side,
Speaker 1: get credit to the Beagles. They're more so sated with
Speaker 1: Kansas City did not do Maybe that's because I'm a
Speaker 1: defensive guy. Yeah, I would think, especially after losing the
Speaker 1: coin toss, that you would just deflate, But the fact
Speaker 1: that they didn't, and they still came back and got
Speaker 1: the ball second got to come away with the wind
Speaker 1: was incredible. I'm team Bengals now and I'm born and
Speaker 1: raised Kansas City, but I'm giving a lot of credit
Speaker 1: to the Bengals now. I love watching them play. They've
Speaker 1: been so clear that they don't want to be considered underdogs,
Speaker 1: but they literally have been all playoffs and they are
Speaker 1: again in the Super Bowl. Have you ever been up
Speaker 1: part of a team or remember a team that had
Speaker 1: that mentality and used it to their advantage. They kept
Speaker 1: overcoming odds. Of course, I played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay,
Speaker 1: people with nineteen when I was drafted, Okay, twelve tene
Speaker 1: more losing Sea So I understand the underto more than
Speaker 1: any but just as important, I understand what it's like
Speaker 1: to turn around a culture in a franchise too, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the place where the Beagles are at
Speaker 1: right now. It's Hey, we can't do anything about the
Speaker 1: teams from nineteen eighty eight until a few years ago.
Speaker 1: All we know is this team that we are now,
Speaker 1: and we're staying in this culture and building moving forward.
Speaker 1: And I definitely understand that because that's the way I
Speaker 1: felt when I got to the Buccaneers in nineteen ninety five. Hey,
Speaker 1: I can't do anything about going on twenty six back
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six, But what I can do from
Speaker 1: nine moving forward? This is the culture that I want
Speaker 1: to be around, and this is the culture that we're
Speaker 1: gonna build, and it's gonna be a winning going into
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. If you were if you were on
Speaker 1: the Rams, what would be your mentality considering you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow hits the deck a lot, the old lines
Speaker 1: a little porous. What would be your game plan and
Speaker 1: mentality if you were the Rams? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you're trying to eliminate distractions, And I saw our Buccaneers
Speaker 1: team go through that last year and hosting the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They did everything they could to eliminate distractions. The advantage
Speaker 1: of practicing at their own facilities. I think coach Aions
Speaker 1: even you know, kind of had them state in the
Speaker 1: hotel to kind of get them away from all distractions.
Speaker 1: So l later, distraction is gonna be even three times
Speaker 1: as much as it was in Tample. So I think
Speaker 1: the players got to do a good job, especially this
Speaker 1: first week, get all the non football things taken care
Speaker 1: of it. You don't want to be dealing with tickets
Speaker 1: next week. You don't want to be dealing with travel,
Speaker 1: et cetera. You want to get all those things out
Speaker 1: of way so you get your body focus back on
Speaker 1: to exited those other games. So Obama rams player. That's
Speaker 1: the thing I'm trying to do as quickly as possible
Speaker 1: is eliminate distraction. What is that Super Bowl Week like?
Speaker 1: As a player? You mentioned there's family, there's people asking
Speaker 1: for tickets and travel, all of this. Uh, there's more
Speaker 1: media than ever. How do you stay focused on excess
Speaker 1: and those Well, I was fortunate enough. I was the
Speaker 1: last year that they did not have to buy week.
Speaker 1: So we went from Philadelphia in the championship game. We
Speaker 1: landed in Tampa about one am. We had to be
Speaker 1: back at the airport at four am to fly out
Speaker 1: west because it would go to different times on the
Speaker 1: West Coast, so we didn't have that weekend between to
Speaker 1: go through this and that was the last Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that did it. Now all the Super Bowls have the
Speaker 1: weekend between and now you have time to do that,
Speaker 1: and most teams they try to do it on the
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday of that first week so they could
Speaker 1: start winning the excuse me, the game playing for preparing
Speaker 1: for football start the Wednesday up, so you try to
Speaker 1: stay on as much of a normal week as possible.
Speaker 1: So the first four d eight hours, hey, they hadn't
Speaker 1: called anybody in or get your ticket a lot and
Speaker 1: get to travel, get all those things out of way,
Speaker 1: because you you hit that building Wednesday. It's all about
Speaker 1: the team we're playing. Yeah, you can't have any more
Speaker 1: cousins coming out of the woodwork now asking for tickets,
Speaker 1: right and God. As much as people talk about that
Speaker 1: one with players, it's even more so on the coaches
Speaker 1: because family member think coaches have way more time than players,
Speaker 1: So the coaches go through that level of stresses as well.
Speaker 1: So it's really an organizational focus that it takes to
Speaker 1: get past that. Von Miller obviously mid season edition for
Speaker 1: the Rams, little passes prime. But how did you see
Speaker 1: his impact on their season? I think his impact came
Speaker 1: at the right time he went in doing that, Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm behind and learning this system, different system, different players,
Speaker 1: and he was patient with himself and learning it, just
Speaker 1: getting a little bit better each week, playing a few
Speaker 1: more plays each week, but more poorly staying healthy during
Speaker 1: this stretch. I think that was a key for for
Speaker 1: Bob Miller is the fact that he stayed healthy the
Speaker 1: second half of the season sister trading. Now, if he
Speaker 1: had been trading and got hurt again, obviously that's not good.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that he was able to
Speaker 1: stay healthy the last six seven day games was a
Speaker 1: big part of the ram success for defense. Watching Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford in his thirteen season, going from winless in the
Speaker 1: postseason to winning out and going to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: as a former player, is it hard not to root
Speaker 1: for a guy like that? Well, again, I can't have
Speaker 1: any rooting interests because I got got I have coaches
Speaker 1: and relationships both sides. Through the interest that I had
Speaker 1: was last year everyone knew I'll do for the Bucks.
Speaker 1: But again, you just appreciate there's a story for everybody.
Speaker 1: Then get to this moment, but Little League overcoming something professionally,
Speaker 1: being told you can't do this, You can't do that.
Speaker 1: One thing I can assure you of this live is
Speaker 1: gonna get changed the winner of this game, the loser
Speaker 1: of this game. Lives are faked and lives get changed
Speaker 1: by the outcome of this game. And to me, that's
Speaker 1: the beauty of this game. That's awesome, meaning the Super Bowl, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Not to backtrack too much, but you know,
Speaker 1: it is such a you know, it's a popular topic.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know. Since you're such an insider, can
Speaker 1: you give us a little insight on what happened with
Speaker 1: a B down there in Tampa Bay. Do you think
Speaker 1: if he was on the field, they would have won
Speaker 1: that game? And what's going on? Who do I believe
Speaker 1: or A B. Well, I appreciate your confidence and my
Speaker 1: level of access, but I'm a very hupeful man, and
Speaker 1: what I don't know, I don't know, So I have
Speaker 1: no problem telling you will remember I do not know. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I I saw it. Everybody saw it in real time,
Speaker 1: unfold a situation that had reached a point of no
Speaker 1: return on both sides, and it played out on national
Speaker 1: TV and some of the most unfortunate circumstances. And to me,
Speaker 1: it's not a matter of who. I believe it's a
Speaker 1: matter of if everyone understands what their role is in
Speaker 1: the dissemination of the relationship, how do you correct that
Speaker 1: moving forward so that doesn't happen again in your organization
Speaker 1: or in your life personally. That's the focus that that
Speaker 1: I would address on either side is there's some circumstances
Speaker 1: that happened that each each side reached a point of
Speaker 1: no return. Well, how do you avoid that moving forward
Speaker 1: to grow as an organization and to grow as a person. Derek,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that lives will get changed for the guys
Speaker 1: on the winning team, but it kind of piqued my
Speaker 1: interest because you also want a national championship with Florida State,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and obviously some others playing in this game
Speaker 1: are trying to do that, win a national championship and
Speaker 1: then a Super Bowl. How do you compare the feeling
Speaker 1: of each because college teammates sometimes are closer, there's no money,
Speaker 1: it's more pure, there's less fame. That's got to be
Speaker 1: a very different experience to win that with those guys.
Speaker 1: It isn't. It was for me because I was part
Speaker 1: of those Boutin's first national championship out there so many disappointments.
Speaker 1: So yes, it is a big difference. When you talk
Speaker 1: about collegiate athletes win a national championship and you know,
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. I think the impact of winning
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl is probably more because now you're dealing
Speaker 1: with the business side of the number one event in
Speaker 1: the world. You a partner, your life is going to
Speaker 1: change immensely from that standpoint. Your life going a change
Speaker 1: in college because you did it with a group of
Speaker 1: guys in that finite time of a relationship. In college,
Speaker 1: it comes and go so quickly, but those memories never
Speaker 1: leave you versus a transactional situation in the NFL, where
Speaker 1: you know that relationship could be more than four years,
Speaker 1: but you don't have the camaraderie in the in the
Speaker 1: sense of struggle that you do in college. Just because
Speaker 1: the games are different, I like to say one is
Speaker 1: more of a business field and one is more of
Speaker 1: a personal field. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I was blessed because I had a chance to feel
Speaker 1: the ultimate feeling by winning them both. Man, that's pretty special.
Speaker 1: What's your person to t J. Watt, obviously a shooting
Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year, What's your opinion on
Speaker 1: what do you see? I see an impact player that
Speaker 1: make plays. Uh. Man, he's he's been able to make
Speaker 1: his presence felt for the Pittsburgh still is in in
Speaker 1: so many ways. And you know, for me, when you
Speaker 1: see a defender that's that impactful man, you become a fan,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But the one key is
Speaker 1: to him is how do he continue to make the
Speaker 1: players around him better? That's what I look for in
Speaker 1: all great players. How do you make the ones around
Speaker 1: you better? If you cannot accomplish that, you then you're
Speaker 1: not a great player, You're not a great leader. You
Speaker 1: have to do that, you know, all your greatness, how
Speaker 1: do you elevate those around you? Follow up question, let's
Speaker 1: just put it on the table. Who's the best linebacker
Speaker 1: of all time? Is it you? I would definitely always
Speaker 1: start with me, of course, but but then I then
Speaker 1: I'll go to some other guys obviously. Uh. When you
Speaker 1: you talking defensive player impact, you know, it's hard not
Speaker 1: to start with the word the two words large tabor,
Speaker 1: you know, and I can say I'll put Derrek Brooks
Speaker 1: a very close second. But it's always fun man to
Speaker 1: go through these arguments because Now, when when you start
Speaker 1: talking linebackers and being leaders, man, you go through errors.
Speaker 1: You know, because subtated the linebackers of the seventies was
Speaker 1: better than the ones in the eighties and the ones
Speaker 1: in the nineties. And they say all they did was
Speaker 1: rushed the passer and the guy to two thousands. They
Speaker 1: never rushed, they covered, you know, when they covenance filled
Speaker 1: the space with a lot of us get around each other.
Speaker 1: It becomes more of a whose error was better when
Speaker 1: it came to the lineback position more so than you
Speaker 1: know anyone person. And I like being a part of
Speaker 1: those arguments. I'm way too young to know all that.
Speaker 1: So Janice, after we record, can you fill me in
Speaker 1: on the linebackers of seventies and eighties. Well, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you Lord's Taylor. I'm a New York Giants fan, obviously
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. Lord's Taylor. You there's a few,
Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta give l t some credit
Speaker 1: because he had a different take care of your body
Speaker 1: regiment than you did, and it still worked out from somehow.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's what I said. Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: they say it's uh, it's over. I forgot the number
Speaker 1: of Hall of Famers, but whatever that number is, says
Speaker 1: over three hundred in some ways to get to Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1: So so I agree. So you know, that was the
Speaker 1: best decision for me, and obviously it worked for LT
Speaker 1: obviously too. If Matt Stafford is able to win this
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, do you think he's a lock for the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? You know, I hate to say that
Speaker 1: one's a lock outside of Tom Breen, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just Yeah. I thought with my good teammate Rande Barber,
Speaker 1: I thought he would have been in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame by now, and hopefully he'll get he'll get in
Speaker 1: it in a couple of weeks. But I thought Shannon
Speaker 1: Shark when he retired that he was a lock, and
Speaker 1: he waited. So it's never a safe thing to say
Speaker 1: that anyone is a lock to me outside of Haide
Speaker 1: Manny and Tom Braden. Yeah, probably true. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about that this week is what will
Speaker 1: his legacy be and how important this is. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much longer we have at Stafford. Well, Derek,
Speaker 1: you've been incredible. I know you can't really give a pick,
Speaker 1: but if you had a feeling of who's gonna come
Speaker 1: out stronger next Sunday. Who would you feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna look a little bit better? Well, I said, I
Speaker 1: can guarantee you this NFL team is gonna win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I just don't know. Come on, I just
Speaker 1: wanted I just want the trend to remain the same.
Speaker 1: I think the two thousand season, in the twenty two years,
Speaker 1: the playoff games have been outstanding, and I just want
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to follow the same trend that got
Speaker 1: everyone excited about the game of football again. Not once
Speaker 1: have anyone's talked about having an extra regular season game.
Speaker 1: And what team losing a bye week in the number
Speaker 1: one seed is everyone? So you fight for the number
Speaker 1: one seed? Didn't mean anything in the playoffs because both
Speaker 1: of them lost. So I just want the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: to follow the same trend as the NFL playoffs and
Speaker 1: being what the greatest games to be played. Absolutely, that's incredible, Derek,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. You are a living
Speaker 1: legend and this was a ton of fun, great insight.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I can't wait to do it again post
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We'll be careful now. We're going to have
Speaker 1: people take you up on that you can follow on
Speaker 1: Twitter at de Brooks fifty five. Derek, thanks again, I
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Speaker 1: forward to that. Something I'm not looking forward to this
Speaker 1: week as punishment picks that is going to come at
Speaker 1: the very end of the show in a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: because I lost again for the Championship round. I picked
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I was a loyalist. Janice always tells me
Speaker 1: to follow my heart and I did and look where
Speaker 1: it got me. So Jannae, first off, congratulations my friend.
Speaker 1: That was I can't believe you somehow did it again. Well,
Speaker 1: you got punished for having two teams. That's what you get.
Speaker 1: That's karma. You can't have two teams the packers of
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, so you got punished. And yeah, when you
Speaker 1: bring in, when you bring in our beloved Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: I just want to ask him if you've gotten your
Speaker 1: prozac prescription yet. What milligrams are you on? And I
Speaker 1: know that you're taking this tough buddy. Well, first off,
Speaker 1: I heard that whole surprise get appearance announcement and I
Speaker 1: was thinking it was me because I'm finally getting the
Speaker 1: invite to a watch, so I got super excited. Then
Speaker 1: I realized, oh yeah, that t o guy man, that
Speaker 1: must have really stung. Stung almost as much a Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Rough couple of days for you. Rough, it's been a
Speaker 1: tough couple of days. The prozac comes this morning, so
Speaker 1: much needed. But yeah, I mean we had it. Jakoss guitar.
Speaker 1: Appreciate him taking the blame, but that was the real game.
Speaker 1: You're right there, I mean dropping that ball and Rams
Speaker 1: come over and and score and and that's the game.
Speaker 1: So it was a tough one. You know. It's okay.
Speaker 1: They weren't supposed to be in that game anyways. Peter,
Speaker 1: it's all right, it's all right. They got farther than
Speaker 1: they could have dreamed. That's all I've been hearing for
Speaker 1: the last four years. We've had Getty Garoppolo, and now
Speaker 1: it's gone. I'm sure it's the Trey Lancer. So we'll
Speaker 1: have a new excuse for next season. Where do you
Speaker 1: think you'll go? What? What do you guys think? Jimmy
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. It's got to be a team
Speaker 1: that I think has some tool because well maybe that too.
Speaker 1: But he can't. He can't go to a New York
Speaker 1: Giants as an example, that is just so unproven. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's going to be the busing quarterback, but
Speaker 1: maybe his team, like the Saints, have some weapons, they
Speaker 1: have a run game, a game that's very well established.
Speaker 1: I think those are the opportunities for him. He can't go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm a Jimmy G loyalist, but
Speaker 1: you can't go and say he's going to change a
Speaker 1: franchise around completely. No, that's not what he's going for.
Speaker 1: I have another question. My mom and sisters and I
Speaker 1: believe it or not, we're talking about this watching that game.
Speaker 1: Why is his beautiful face not on a bunch of
Speaker 1: national ads. I'd rather look at him do State farm
Speaker 1: commercials than anyone else. That's a good question. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you have to have a certain level of
Speaker 1: skill to be able to get stuff. Again, I take
Speaker 1: it all on the chain about Jimmy because I love him.
Speaker 1: I think he's an awesome guy, but you see the flaws,
Speaker 1: and to be on those commercials, you've gotta have a
Speaker 1: rifle side arm throw like Patty Mahomes and obviously be
Speaker 1: a premial All star like Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the flather. Oh just wait next year, though,
Speaker 1: it's going to be Joe Burrow on every commercial. He
Speaker 1: is here to stay my friends, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: I love me some Joey be so good. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: here for his turtleneck to his little his little turtleneck
Speaker 1: and chain look, bring back the turtleneck the rock. I
Speaker 1: thought the post of human Jamaar Chase smoking stogies and
Speaker 1: then Mr Chase and Mr Burrow in the parking lot
Speaker 1: smoking stogies too, I mean that was just perfect there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just the team you're you want to
Speaker 1: root for at this point, unless you're obviously a Chiefs
Speaker 1: fan or are they beating you along the playoffs? But
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows the man. Yeah, let's get to the game
Speaker 1: in punishment. It's again the same story for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: They're an underdog right now as we record on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: two weeks before the Super Bowl. They are plus four
Speaker 1: and a half. It's a road game, home game for
Speaker 1: the Rams. I mean, I don't know, the Bengals love
Speaker 1: being an underdog. I think this is an advantage. What
Speaker 1: do you think, Pete? Yeah, I agree. I mean, you'd
Speaker 1: be foolish after the last couple of weeks, and we've
Speaker 1: all been foolish, especially last week. I mean I had
Speaker 1: the Chiefs too, You'd be foolish to go another week
Speaker 1: when they're dogs and not take them. I mean, plus
Speaker 1: four and a half, I think this is a close
Speaker 1: game anyway, So that's a safe bet, but I think
Speaker 1: it's plus one six right now. On the money line.
Speaker 1: You have to sprinkle a little bit there, and I think,
Speaker 1: similar to a lot of their games, you have to
Speaker 1: consider the over two because they're going to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: They're well rounded in a sense, but Borrow is gonna
Speaker 1: throw for over three hundred yards. I think you gotta
Speaker 1: take a lot of those overs, or really consider them.
Speaker 1: There's gonna become a point where I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be potentially chasing a bit. They're gonna a band in
Speaker 1: the run. They're just gonna be airing it out, and somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, he always finds someone opened by five ten yards,
Speaker 1: So I think that opens the game up quite a bit. Pete,
Speaker 1: tell us some player props you you like right now,
Speaker 1: give some people some tips. Yeah, I got three. I
Speaker 1: just mentioned kind of one of them Borrow yards. I
Speaker 1: think it's at two seventy eight and a half or
Speaker 1: something around there right now. This guy just always throws
Speaker 1: for three yards. I feel like every time I've ever
Speaker 1: bet is over, it's always hit. That's my lock. If
Speaker 1: you will second one. Given the aggressiveness of their offense,
Speaker 1: I think I might take the rams defense or special
Speaker 1: teams anytime touchdown from a special team's point of view,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup from a defense point of view, I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw what they can do, uh this week, and
Speaker 1: obviously what they've done all season long. I might take
Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a flyer plus five
Speaker 1: and then last one. I mean, there's not really value
Speaker 1: in Cooper Cup scoring a touchdown. It's minus. I think
Speaker 1: it's a pretty sure thing, but you have to lay
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean plus five fifty first touchdown.
Speaker 1: If they get the ball, it always ends up in
Speaker 1: his hands. I mean, he's just the man and obviously
Speaker 1: such a good route runner he is. I think probably
Speaker 1: you know, proven that he's the best receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know I went and said Jamar Chase a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, but my god, this guy is so good.
Speaker 1: And seeing him live on Sunday, I mean, you just
Speaker 1: get a whole level of respect, or a whole different
Speaker 1: level of respect for him. He really gets loose, like
Speaker 1: that first move, that little stutter staff and he always
Speaker 1: jukes the defender. It's amazing. He's he's got the perfect balance.
Speaker 1: Like Okay, you've got guys like Davanta Adams, who's an
Speaker 1: amazing route runner. You have Jamar Chase who's an incredible
Speaker 1: deep threat. Cooper Cup is a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: He's the jack of all trades, but to the highest
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type of level where he somehow knows how
Speaker 1: to shake the guy on third and three with a
Speaker 1: little out route. He somehow finds himself open to win
Speaker 1: a game against the Bucks with a forty five yard pass.
Speaker 1: I mean, he really does it all and it's freaking incredible. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. We're gonna get way more granular here
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Speaker 1: betting analysis for the Super Bowl. You know, I mentioned
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Speaker 1: So I think that's four shots. I'm gonna get you
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Speaker 1: the bed MGM Sports Book and I'm gonna put a
Speaker 1: unit on Joe Burrow over passing Yards. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: a unit on Bengals plus four and a half, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to think more about my others. But right now,
Speaker 1: after talking to Pete Pablo here, I feel pretty good
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