WEBVTT - 10 Medieval Torture Devices 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.200 Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:12.640 Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.840 Josh Clarkinner's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and um. Chuck thinks 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.439 we should include a warning on this one. I think 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.720 we probably should. This is gonna be pretty gruesome at times. Warning. Kids, 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.639 maybe ask your parents if you should play that. Parents, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.160 maybe don't play this for your kids. Done, pretty good warning. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.560 And this is history, you know, it's pretty it's pretty 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.879 uh gruesome history though. Yeah. So the Middle Ages are 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.560 the Medieval period in Europe. Man, Yeah, they were very 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.760 gruesome time, starting about the fifth century after the fall 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.839 of the Roman Empire, uh and lasting until the Renaissance 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.040 the fifteenth century. It's many English years, a thousand years 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.680 of um, nasty, brutish and short life. Yeah, so that 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:03.720 the average life expectancy during the Medieval period. And all 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.800 historians don't like they call it the Middle Ages because 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.880 that implies that it's just basically this little bit of 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.679 time in between two really important ages, the Middle Period. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.920 It's like the Jane Brady of history. Um. And they're saying, like, no, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.319 there's some really great things came about during this time 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.160 and Um, you can't just call it that, so they 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.399 call it the Medieval period. I still think it's the 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.039 Middle Ages or the Dark Ages is another great way 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:36.520 to put it. Brutish behavior. There was a expectancy somewhere 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:41.240 in the forties. I didn't see specifically, but yeah, at 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.520 the very least it's yeah, average age, you could live 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.080 longer than that. I mean, like you, you know, if 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.600 you're a woman, the chances of you dying in childbirth 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.400 were pretty high. If you were a man, the chances 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.960 of you being killed by getting kicked by your horse, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.320 we're probably pretty high. If you were a child making it, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.720 I think you had a thirty three percent chance to 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.760 not make it past five. It was not good. It 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.120 was a violent time. Um. Nutrition was not very good, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.840 it was a dirty time, and it was just it 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.320 was a bad time to be alive. I think we 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.919 can agree on that. Um, if you're time traveling, skip 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.440 the Middle Ages. One of the one of the one 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.840 of the I guess hallmarks of the Middle Ages, UM 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.120 was that after the fall of the Roman Empire, Rome 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:38.000 like owned Europe owned it outright, and under this control 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:43.880 also came things like Rhodes currency, government justice. Yeah, like 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.120 to the farthest reaches of the Roman Empire. It was 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:54.000 under controlled generally, and these areas had public service, right 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.440 public services. After the Roman Empire fell um there was 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.240 a power vacuum and for three hundred years the Franks 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.120 and the Saxons and the Anglo Saxons um all were fighting. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.079 And finally in about eight hundred Charlemagne was crowned the 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.399 Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire and the Church took 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:20.080 over basically, which good news, right you would think. The Church, however, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.040 had a hatred of women in their fondness of torture, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.560 and the Middle Ages was also characterized by a period 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:35.320 of really inventive thinking in how to produce human suffering. Yeah, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.720 I think it is a great quote from L. A. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.640 Parry's nineteen seventy book A History of Torture in England. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.280 The first part of this really hits home on it 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.320 and hit home. But yeah, it brings up bad memories. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.600 What strikes us most in considering the medieval tortures is 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.120 not so much their diabolical barbarity as the extraordinary variety 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.080 in what maybe term the artistic skill they displayed. So 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.640 they definitely delighted and especially reading these torture devices and 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.120 being very uh inventive and probably trying to outdo one another, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.640 and how awful it was and the different mechanisms, you know, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.080 because mechanics was new, so they were probably like, look, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.440 you know this has five gears that will you know, 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.760 rip your toes off. How cool? But uh yeah, so 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:27.000 it was very ah, perversely inventive period. Yeah. Perry says 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:34.159 that they basically ruminated and considered how suffering occurs to 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.880 figure out how to produce it. That it was like 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.000 basically an art form by the end. Yeah, they would 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:46.200 in court sometimes they would um just do things like hey, 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.680 let me put your arm in boiling water, and we're 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.760 going to base our verdict on how long it takes 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.480 it to heal. Um. I know the old thing about 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.919 you know, does the witch float throw it? Throw in 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.520 the lake and let's see and if she drowns, hey 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.240 she was not a witch. That's sad. But if she lives, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.480 then Berner at to stay exactly. Yeah, so either way 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.680 the lady dies, which is very sad. Um. And they 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.600 even had a thing when they would torture people for confessions, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:19.080 but they wouldn't They would say basically that confession doesn't count. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.120 So they would say, you know what, within that twenty 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.560 four hour period, we won't torture you, see if you 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.600 still confess, and if you don't, we'll just torch you again. Right. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.599 That was to corroborate your own confession that was extracted 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.400 under torture. So even even back then, they realized, like, yeah, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.640 you can't really rely on a confession under torture because 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.760 people say anything to get you to stop doing the 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.320 things that we're about to describe they were doing to them, right, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.720 or they would torture you very publicly. That's a very 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.200 common thing with most of these dissuade criminal activity. Yeah, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:53.960 humiliation shaming, scarlet letters, Yeah, that kind of thing, permanent 0:05:54.000 --> 0:06:00.480 scarlet letters. Even so, we're talking about the torture advices, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.600 some of the more famous, more diabolical ones that came 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.960 out of the Middle Ages. Yeah, and this is a 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.640 surprise for you. I told you I had a little 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.800 game we're gonna play. We're gonna as we go, we 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.920 will also find out, because I've done this research, which 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.479 of these torture devices are also the names of heavy 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.000 metal bands. Oh yeah, that's a great one because at 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.160 the very first one I saw The Brazen Bull, I 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.120 was like, surely that's a band. Yeah. When I was 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.000 researching this, I was thinking, like, I wonder how many 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.120 times Chuck's gonna be like, that's a great band name. Well, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.520 the Brazen Bull is, in fact the band in Chicago, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.919 three piece uh grinder core metal band. Give me another 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.240 example of grind core. So I I know, I don't 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.320 even know. I think it's just the stuff that's so 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.560 like fast and heavy and like I like that. Yeah, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.120 so I've I found. I tweeted out this picture of 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.240 like the different characters from Lord of the Rings and 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.440 then based on like their looks, what kind of metal 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.400 they were into? Really yeah, like Golam was in the 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:03.520 new Metal New Metal. Yeah, and then I can't remember. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:08.400 I think um Vigo Mortenson was into like, um, I 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.160 can't remember. It's it's worth checking out going too our 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.080 Twitter for you look like three weeks four weeks back. Yeah, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.960 I'll find it, you'll love it. I'm sure I didn't 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.600 describe grind Cork correctly. That's cool. I'm not hip on 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:24.080 the metal scene, Chuck. The Brazen Bull. The Brazen Bull 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.240 is old. Indeed, they think that an ancient Greek name 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:34.400 Perillus invented it, yeah, for for a tyrant named Phalaris 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:40.440 of a grinchined him and so basically like, hey, let 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.600 me build you this torture device. You're gonna love it. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.840 And the guy was like, I love it, get in it? 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.320 What And apparently that's how it went down, right. So 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.280 what is the Brazen Bull. Well, it's a brass bull, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.320 which is why it's brazen. And the bowl yeah, um, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.880 it's a large one, big enough for human to fit him, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.880 and there is a locking mechanism on the outside once 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:07.880 the human is in. Because they built fires around the 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:12.080 brazen bowl, lit them and then waited for the brazen 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.280 bowl the heat up with the person inside, who would 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:20.000 then scream and move around. And the muted sounds because 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.600 it was brass because their tongue was often cut off. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.600 Um made it look and sound like the the bull 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.960 was alive and making noise. Yeah, And we found through 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.880 all of these grab Sir wrote this. Of course at 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 Grabanowski it was usually followed with to the delight and 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.680 entertainment of the crowd. So apparently, you know the bull 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.760 started rocking and making noises. People were just like, oh, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.720 I love it. It's great. Someone's getting seared alive inside 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.080 that hollow bowl. Yeah, because this thing you're not being 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:56.880 You're not being like charred, You're being seared to death. Ultimately, Ultimately, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.320 I imagine you would pass out and die from the heat, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.520 probably hopefully, but I mean being seared to death that's 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.960 pretty bad. Or even being steered in the meantime before 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.040 you pass out from the heat. Yeah. I think with 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.440 most of these, your best hope is to pass out 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.000 as soon as possible from pain, you know. So, thumb 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:20.360 screws is one that that are They're interesting in that 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.880 they aren't designed to kill you, like a lot of 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.559 these tortures are designed like to either kill you or 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.760 you could die from them. And if you do well 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.199 whatever with thumb screws, it's like, no, this is just 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.000 for inflicting pain on you. Yeah, band or not a band? 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:43.040 A band thumb screw out of Austin, Texas metal band. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.559 Uh so Yeah, like you said, you're not gonna die. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:51.520 It's basically a these upright metal bars, three upright metal 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.959 bars that you put your thumbs in and then a 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.199 wooden bar slides down and presses your thumbs down, and 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.320 then it has screws and they just crank it down, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.480 like squeezing your thumbs until they're crushed and broken. I 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.520 would imagine, Yeah, if you want to just start to 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.120 get even the slightest bit of idea of it, just 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.160 just pressed down on your thumb a little bit about 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.280 within the top third of your thumb above the quick 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.360 Jerry's not doing it, She's just watching us, and it 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.880 just it starts as like a little throbbing pain. Now, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.520 imagine like somebody's screwing a vice down on top of 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.559 that while you're screaming. That's what the thumb screws met for. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.880 Apparently there was a tin finger version called a pilly wink. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.679 And that's a cute name. Is that a metal band name? No? 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.520 I looked that up though, um, and it's supposedly originated 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.280 in the Russian army is punishment for bad soldiers. And 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.360 then a Scotsman said, this is great, let's bring it 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.240 back home to the UK. Yeah. A guy named Quotability 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:54.800 tam Delio who was a seventeenth century UH minister of 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.760 parliament um who liked to use them himself. Not on himself, no, 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.439 but he liked to use them on people. Okay, Number eight, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.480 the rack band not a band band. No, I couldn't 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.160 find it. It's gotta be I think. Um, it's just 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.079 a little too like vague. That was my explanation. But 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.720 it is a workout device. Someone's actually named their little 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.199 workout machine the rack. No way. Yeah, it looks like 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.520 it looks like a walker, you know, like if you 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.960 can't walk, so great, but you can do like dips 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.360 and push ups and sit ups and stuff with it. Yeah. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.040 So do you think they were like making a joke? 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.319 I have no idea, I hope so. Um. So the 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.720 rack is pretty self explanatory and you've all seen this before. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.880 Um has many different forms, but generally it is a 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.360 person tied to a table with each limb um, you know, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.319 tied to a corner, and then it is cranked and 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.280 you were pulled apart or at least dislocated, right, like 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.319 the wheel is cranked, or like an axle is cranked 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.040 or something that that that wines that coils the rope 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.360 that your limbs are tied to up And yeah, it's 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.520 either dislocated or if you really want to get down, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.679 you can just keep going and pull the limbs right 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.319 off of the body. Yeah, I imagine there was a 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.360 about a four second period where it was great, you 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.280 know where your back just cracked just right, and they're like, oh, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.640 that's fantastic. And then it was like no, no, no, no, no, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.520 can we stop there? Oh no, yeah, I don't like 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.160 this anymore. Uh. And they called you you know, would 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.520 be called broken on the rack or racked or stretched 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.400 on the rack. And there was one type that apparently 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.160 looked like a horse even yeah, I get the impression 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.559 that was a little bit like a sawhorse, looking kind 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.960 of just a beam with legs, and um torque Mata, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.880 who was the head of the Spanish inquisition, he preferred 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.000 one called the portoro, right, but again the inventiveness, like 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:54.839 they would make one look like a horse, or you know, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.680 they would apply little artistry to it, which is even 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.600 more perverse I think. And there's another one. It's kind 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.040 of related to the rack. It's called the wheel. Virtually 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:09.800 the same principle, no man um the it's basically the 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.600 same principle as the wreck. Your your limbs are tied 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.040 to the wheel, or they're broken ahead of time in 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.960 two places with an iron bar and then threaded through 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.880 the spokes in the wheel, and then once you're secured 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.880 this wheel. They can do all sorts of stuff. They 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.760 can swing it like a pendulum and spikes that you're 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.559 you're grazed over or fire or the fire below you, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.480 and just swing you slowly over that. Or they can 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.560 use the wheel as it was meant to be used 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.400 and tie you to it and send you down a 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.080 rocky hillside. You'll tell you on the outside of it. Yeah, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.760 it's not to make you dizzy. Myself almost said that 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.760 was my favorite. The wheel is your favorite? Well, tying 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.480 them on the outside and rolling them down the hill. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.720 When I read that, I was like, very inventive. Yeah, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.040 that's off to you. What else you gonna do with 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.160 the wheel using as a pendulum? That's stupid. Yeah. The 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.240 one where they would break your arms was kind to 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.439 crucifixion because, like you said, basically they would thread you 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.120 through it and then put it high on a steak 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:06.640 and just let you bake out in the sun until 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:11.599 you died with four broken limbs. Alright, the rack in 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.319 the wheel, the steak burning at the steak not a 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.200 band name, no, and it was usually a form of execution, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.320 but it was so painful that it's also considered a 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.800 form of torture. How long would it take, Josh, So 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.400 it's just a poll that somebody's tied to with some 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:34.040 dry kindling around it, like kindling and um. Depending on 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.960 the conditions, it could take thirty minutes for you to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.400 finally go unconscious from the pain of the fire. Thirty 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.400 minutes of being burned before you finally feigned. Now, if 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.560 it was windy out and the fire is blowing away 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.680 from you a little bit, you could be during that 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:57.280 for up to two hours, unbelievable of being burned to death. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.760 Two hours of being burn to death at the steak. Yeah. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.400 And the Netherlands they got a little more creative with it. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.400 They would um a lot of times. They would remove 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:07.840 the tongue or do something to the tongue I think, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.960 to just muffle the screams and make it a little 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.960 more palatable. Uh. And in the Netherlands they would apparently um, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.280 sandwich your tongue between two hot iron plates and uh. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.160 Of course you couldn't do a lot with that except 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.760 you know, make weird muffled screaming noises. Right. I don't 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.120 know if it was to make it more palatable or 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.800 people during the Dark Ages thought it was hilarious where 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.760 people couldn't talk. Yeah, maybe so you know, you're right 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:37.480 like that was like Jerry Lewis of periods, the Jam 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:42.280 Brady and the Jerry Lewis of periods. Wow, that's pretty 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:47.320 exciting time. Um, are we onto the Pillory? Oh well, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.960 we should say probably that there was a modicum of 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.800 mercy with the steak where the church would strangle you 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.120 if you confess to being a heretic, they would strangle 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.720 you to death first before burning you at mistake, and 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.640 then it was just a symbolic burning. Right, you're being 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.320 consumed by fire. That's a very nice thing to do. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.920 So Pillory band or not a band? I would say 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.320 they are a band out of Boston and they're a 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.200 hardcore band and actually listened to one of their songs. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.240 You want to know the name of it is, what 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:26.960 hang nail in a Jeez? That's a metal band song title. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.200 It sure is. So the pillory you've all seen. It's 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.280 um basically the two parallel wooden boards that are classed 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.600 together around your neck and arms and you're bent over 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.400 hanging through them. Your hands are your hands and your 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.560 head stick through these things. Yeah. I always thought that 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:47.400 was the stocks. Yeah, it's just like to restrain your ankles. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.960 But the point is your immobile and you put on 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.000 a platform in a very public area to be shame 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.880 and humiliated and have rotten fruit thrown at you and 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.920 more than that, feces. And I imagine the worst case 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.520 scenario for this would be a group of like twelve 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.080 year old boys in the Middle Ages when you're in 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.600 the pillory. Yeah, twelve year old boys have like families 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.080 and kids by that, that's true, But I bet they 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.120 were the meanest of all. Like, some people would die 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:19.800 in the pillory because they would be you know, beaten 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.600 to death. Uh. Some people would be lauded though, if 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.320 they were like thumbing their nose at the government and 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.640 saying I didn't pay my taxes, some people would bring 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.879 them flowers and like food and stuff. Yeah, basically the 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.480 pillory was meant to just be left up to the 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.520 crowd what what was to be done with you. At 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.400 the very least, you were shame publicly just for being 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.040 up there for an hour or two. But if the 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.159 crowd decided that, you know, you needed more justice, Like 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.880 there was a four Englishmen who would um wrongfully accused 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.120 some people and send them to the gallows in order 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.680 to get the reward money. Those guys were beaten to 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.360 death when they were put into the pillory. That's no good. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.760 That's what they call English justice. Yeah, and can you 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.160 imagine that being able to move and just have someone 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.800 like beating you about the head that brings up a 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.000 not be able to bring her hands up at least 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:11.919 guard your face. That still goes on today as public execution. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.159 There are some countries out there that use stoning. Iran 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.080 is a very prominent one where you are sentenced to 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.239 death by stoning. Yeah. They bury you up to your 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.560 neck and your head is just exposed so you can't 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.480 move and people throw rocks at you until you die. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:30.880 Usually they cover you with the sheets that they can't 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.320 see you, but they judge that you're you're done when 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.800 you stop moaning and you're bleeding through the sheet. But 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.520 there's a really interesting article I think you should read. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.400 I wrote this blog post, Chuck. It's called five most 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.960 entertaining academic papers of all time, and one of them 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.960 and entertaining I use this in a strange way. But 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.000 one of them is called the possible pain experience during 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.800 execution by different Methods is by Harold Hillman, was written 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.879 in the I think the early nineties, and one of 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.760 the ones he covers is stone. But he goes through 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.560 and takes like all of this like, um, He's like, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.040 there's no there's no body of work on how much 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.879 pain stoning causes. So he compares it to pain reported 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.879 from like a car crash or something like that, and 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.080 then makes assumptions that are you know, pretty good educated 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.399 guesses of what pain a person experiences, and basically rates 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.879 methods of execution from hanging to stoning to the gas chamber, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.800 um in in so far as how much pain and 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:35.639 suffering they produce. Entertaining, Yes, the other ones are much 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.960 more entertaining that one had to be in there. It's 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.480 just the Originally I call them the five greatest academic 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.119 papers of all time. But you know s e o 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.560 um okay, so we're done with the Pillory and the Stocks. Correct? Yeah? 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.639 Were the Stocks a band name? No? Uh? And actually 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.880 have the Iron Maiden band or not a band? Uh? 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.200 You know they have their own beer Iron Maiden Beer 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.960 trooper Ale. Really yeah, it's got Eddie on the cover 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.399 and everything. Oh wow, it's pretty neat. I'll try that 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.240 around the label. I should say, can you get it 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:09.760 like here in the States? No, you're gonna only get 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.760 in the EU. I tried. It's probably sixty announces too. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.720 It looks good, like it's well made. It's not just 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.800 like I'll put her name on this crap. Like it's 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.360 clearly like a kind of craft beer. That's awesome. Yeah, 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.600 you know, Bruce Dickinson's like a full on pilot, like 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.640 seven pilot. I don't know, Like he flies there big 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.960 jumbo jet that the band travels on. That's cool. Um. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.840 So the Iron Maiden um. At one point they didn't 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.399 even believe this was real because it sounded so diabolical, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.720 but then they found one in uh Nuremberg, Germany and 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.760 uh sometimes it's called the Iron Maiden of Nuremberg for 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.960 that reason. But it's a sarcophagus, you've seen it before, 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:52.840 like King Tutt was buried in. But it's got little 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.320 double doors and very strategically play spikes on the inside 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.479 done well. When you shut these double doors, including one 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:06.720 over the door, including one over the face that has 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.920 two spikes that are designed to take your eyes out. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:13.879 These spikes go into your vital organs. They're arranged in 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.360 such a way so that your heart gets it, your kidneys, 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.080 your liver just a bit right. Yeah, The spikes aren't 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.600 so long that they just go right through you and 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.520 kill you. They're short enough that they're gonna puncture these 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.359 organs and you're gonna die. But it's gonna take many hours, 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.480 and the the lord of the castle in Nuremberg gets 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.480 to sit there and listen to you moan and die. Wow. 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.399 And they had one apparently that was even shaped like 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.399 the Virgin Mary and her arms so when he got 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.800 in she would hug you. Yeah, when you like turn 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.159 to crank, the arms would draw you closer into the 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:51.000 spikes again very fiendish. Uh. Scavenger's Daughter band or not 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.600 a band? I know that as a band. I ran 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.920 across it during my research to four bands. From what 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.720 I saw it was one of the UK, one in St. Louis, 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.639 in Shanghai and when in Poland? Cool? Did they really 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.400 spread out? Maybe it's all the affiliate to the same band. 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.880 They're also city are he's a scavenger's daughter co well? 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.840 Hell see uh? The original name for the Scavenger's daughter 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:17.800 Skeffington's Jeeves or Geeves. I don't know how you would 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.440 pronounce that g y v E s. That's a band too, 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.920 Is it from Tallahassee? I can believe that so um. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:30.280 It was named after the inventor Skevington and Todd Skevington. 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.760 This the best way I'm gonna describe this is um. 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:36.920 It looks sort of like an arch. Imagine the St. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.240 Louis arch shrunk down two about two ft and attached 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.720 to a bass plate, and you would get down in 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:48.040 like the tornado crowds position and get inside of this thing, 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.760 and then they would crank it down on the back 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.080 of your neck and back at the top of the arch, 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.399 the top of the center of the archers screw that 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.720 they can crank to crank the whole arch down on 0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:59.840 top of your Yeah, so you're in like a crowd's position. 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.480 They just further crouch you until your spine cracks in 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.960