1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Walmart shares under pressure today, down about 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: three point two per cent, forecast earnings for its next 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: fiscal year that missed some analysts estimates, just as CEO 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Doug McMillan plans more investments to improve stores and build 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: out the retailer's e commerce capabilities. Seems like a perfectly 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: sensible strategy to many people who watch Walmart, but to 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: investors today shows are going to be spending more money 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: to ultimately boost that bottom line, and that seems to 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: be why we're getting a bit of a negative move today. 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: But let's ask somebody who knows all about this what 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: he thinks. Joe Agnes is equity analyst at c f 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: R A Research. So, Joe, what stood out to you 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: about the forecast for next year and how it ties 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: into Doug mamillan's plans. Well, we thought the forecast for 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: fiscal year seventeen, eighteen and nineteen were actually weaker than 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: we expected, so it's a bit disappointing. However, as the 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: company provide details during today's analyst meeting, our concerns were 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: somewhere alleviated as the course, stores are still expected to 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: improve operating income and operating margins, and the decreases more 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: reflection of those increased investments in e commerce, which we believe, 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, are the right moves for the company to 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: make the better position themselves in the long term for 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: growth and to compete more effectively Joe. Earlier today, the 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: chief executive of Walmart, Doug McMillan, he was speaking to investors. 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: They were all gathered at Walmart's headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas, 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: and he said, this company over time will look like 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: an e commerce company. Well before it becomes an e 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: commerce company, do they have to resolve a corruption investigation 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: with the US Justice Department and the Securities Exchange Commission? 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Because I think that the settlement, or at least the 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: talk of a settlement, is about six hundred million dollars, 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: and I believe that Walmart has already said that they've 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: already spent or set aside about seven hundred nine million 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: dollars for this issue. Can you explain what's going on? Yes? Well, 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: while the numbers seem large, uh, Walmart produces a significant 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: amount of free cash flow fifteen billion dollars a year. 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: So I think any settlement they reached in this multi 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: year ongoing investigation, uh is not going to have a 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: significant impact on the company's long term strategy and the 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: e commerce initiative going forward. Uh. Okay, so it's something 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: then you're basically saying, they'll they'll clear this up, they'll settle, 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: they won't settle and move on. But I just have 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: to ask, as the back and forth continues between the 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Justice Department, the SEC and Walmart, what is Walmart's defense. 46 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: Do they say that they didn't do what their charged 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: with doing? Do they say that there were sort of 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: rogue employees in Mexico who made bribery payments because they're 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just how much did you have to pay? Right right? 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: The disputing it? They they noticed some issues themselves. Has 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: gone back to two thousand eleven, I believe, Um, there's 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: new management that has been put in place, as new 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: processes and new compliance that's been put in place, and 54 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: so they're trying to oversee and be proactive in preventing 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: future issues, you know, you're such as the ones that 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: they experienced in the past, which I think will will 57 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: help the perception of the company going forward. UM. You know, 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: and as I said, six h billion dollars is a 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: lot for many companies, but for a company of that 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: size of Walmart, Uh, it's it's not gonna have a 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: significant impact to the long term operations. Okay. But having 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: said that, then what makes anybody think that a company 63 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: this big, with the fifteen billion dollars that you just mentioned, 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: is nimble enough to go head to head against Amazon. 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they just spent three billion in August to 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: buy jet dot com. Have they displayed any ability that 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: would outpace Amazon? Well, the way we view it is 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: that they already have the customers coming into stores. They 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: have two sixty million customers coming into their stores and 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: their keys to keep them within their infrastructure, and by 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: improving their ecommist offerings, they will better be able to 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: keep those customers in the stores and get more share 73 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: of their wallet of those customers. Um, it's not just 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: against Amazon, that can take share from many other companies, 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: and that we see an improvement in their e commas 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: better positioning them to take that share over the long term. 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: How about China? What role does it play? China is 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: one of their largest international markets. Internationals about of the 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: company's sales. UH top two markets are Canada in Mexico, 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: which they could leverage the US operations, so China is 81 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: significant long term for growth. What they're trying to do 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: there is UH increase their scale to offer a seamless 83 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: e commerce and bricks and mortar solution in the country, 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's why you're seeing the j D 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: dot com deals where they sold their operations to j 86 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: D for a five percent plus stake and then double 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: that stake to over ten percent recently. Online sales currently 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: account for just three of total sales. Does Doug McMillan, 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the chief executive, does his future depend on raising where 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: that three percent of total sales coming from e commerce? Yes? 91 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: I think so. I think the Jet dot com will 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: add over a billion dollars in sales UH. The company 93 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: said that in the second half of the year they 94 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: expect e commerce sales grow to accelerate to from twelve 95 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: percent last quarter and eight percent in Q one, so 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: they have a favorable trend there UH and to be 97 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: near thirty percent going forward. I think the company needs 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: to produce those results. I think if there's disappointment there, 99 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: you're going to see the share price struggle. But if 100 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: they can achieve those numbers and and and beat them 101 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: the shares to do very well well. The shares are 102 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: struggling today. The shares of Walmart are currently down about 103 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: two and down more than two dollars to share sixty 104 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: nine twenty nine cents for shares of w m T. 105 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: I want to thank you very much, Joe Agneezy, he's 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: equity analyst at c f r A Research. This is 107 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: taking stock, and this is Bloomberg