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Speaker 1: This is our lives, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: I don't sleep because sleep is the cousin of death,

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Speaker 3: and also because my daughter won't let me.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, It's the twenty first of February twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: and it is time for another edition of your favorite podcast,

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 3: am merely one half of your hosting duo based out

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Speaker 3: here in Washington to see the capital of status with Meadows.

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Speaker 3: I am joined by the Boss of Connecticut who's got

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Speaker 3: the world's strongest back. He's my friend in yours. It's

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 4: Luke, if people only knew of the melancholy and infinite

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Speaker 4: sadness it took to get me into this show chair

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Speaker 4: this morning, because yes, at forty three, I've broken my

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Speaker 4: back spinal I haven't seen the doctor yet, but I'm

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Speaker 4: sure he'll say I need to back out of me. Luke,

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Speaker 4: is there anything more disarming in life than losing your mobility?

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Speaker 4: On the toilet. I mean, really is there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, Elvis lost at all on the toilet. I

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Speaker 4: respect that, by the way. You know at forty two though,

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Speaker 4: but at forty three, I mean you know, you stand up,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you're already standing, Luke. People already know

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Speaker 4: your preference personally, right, it's more of a Southeast Asian

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Speaker 4: based preference, which you know lines up with your birth.

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Speaker 4: But Luke, yeah, wow kind of you know, can we

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Speaker 4: get the uh yeah, all right, so we'll do this.

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Speaker 4: I'll hang in here as long as I can.

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Speaker 2: There's two kinds of people in this world. BC.

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Speaker 3: When when Daniel Cormier told people he nearly had to

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Speaker 3: withdraw him a fight from an aggressive sneeze, there were

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Speaker 3: people being like, wow, that's pathetic, and then there are

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Speaker 3: people like us being like, yo, man, I totally get that.

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Speaker 3: I understand how that could happen to your life. So

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Speaker 3: best of luck to you. I've been there, bro, I've

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Speaker 3: had it. I've had it so bad. I've had it

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Speaker 3: so bad that one time I could not even sit

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Speaker 3: up or stand and I couldn't This is before uber eats, anyway,

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Speaker 3: and I had to crawl around on my floor and

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Speaker 3: or get in a country into a bat Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That is the uh that is the rock of the bottom. Look, wow,

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Speaker 4: uh yeah, I couldn't. I definitely could not have made

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Speaker 4: it was just a you're gonna have to hold it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're gonna have to sleep through the night.

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Speaker 4: So uh wow, Luke, this is a sobering reality. But

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Speaker 4: I vow, I vow to rebuild my core upon healing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna have to are You're gonna be right

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Speaker 3: back here if you don't. You had a big weekend,

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Speaker 3: a big weekend of combat sports. There was UFC, there

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Speaker 3: was Bellator, there was knuckle Mania. There was also very

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Speaker 3: quickly BC. You were in Orlando on Friday for Showbox

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Speaker 3: ended up being actually a pretty great show.

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Speaker 2: Your review of your experience.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Luke, and I appreciated your social

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Speaker 4: support for me just the same. Look great, great night

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Speaker 4: at the fights down there Orlando for Showbox. Jermaine Ortiz

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Speaker 4: getting the win in the main event. We saw a

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Speaker 4: controversial decision. But yeah, Luke, I mean, look, I've said

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Speaker 4: the game. That's the best damn thing you can ever

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Speaker 4: be employed to do. Like me, I like, look, I'm

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Speaker 4: sure Kendra Lust really enjoyed her prime, but you know,

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Speaker 4: at least in our field, this is you know, this

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say to that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let that one sit a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you stew in the juices of that one,

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Speaker 4: No. Yeah, in all seriousness, great time, good times, great

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Speaker 2: Thank Jim and again good fights, good fights.

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Speaker 4: And seriously, in all seriousness, the MK audience they came

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Speaker 2: Any MK fans in attendance. Yes, that's the difference.

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Speaker 4: I came out to support you. Those Luke are the

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Speaker 4: I've always tabbed you as like a James Buchanan guy,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a big new deal guy. I knew that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, reaching out and saying he's a big Bill Clinton guy,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know who on this staff hasn't. But look,

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: But there's a ton of ways in which other elite

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Speaker 2: But he has arrived. He is worthy of a big fight.

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Speaker 3: He's I think, you know, probably gonna win some fights

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Speaker 4: I mean, is this just Jamal Hill hits a hell

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Speaker 3: I would say this walker was kind of fighting off

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Speaker 3: He did have a three inch reach advantage. He is taller, right,

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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, like, lean, get out

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And transitioning here to Johnny Walker and what

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Speaker 4: It didn't seem to work on paper to begin with.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna happen. Obviously, four and five fights is a

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Speaker 3: It's such an asymmetry that it doesn't just give you

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Speaker 2: BC. I'm with you.

433
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 3: I was liking some of the stuff that Walker was doing.

434
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 3: It seemed a little bit more and he was efforting

435
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: some blitzes as well. Those were a little bit you know,

436
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 3: they didn't go anywhere either, but he was. It was

437
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 3: definitely more offensive.

438
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 4: But you gotta have that size if you're Walker, you

439
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 4: gotta have the threat of the big offense, and I

440
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 4: thought he was mixing in the threat of the run

441
00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: in big offense with striking from the outside fairly effective.

442
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, he's not going to be a jabber

443
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 4: and a pure boxer who keeps you at the end

444
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 4: of it. Maybe a coach can try to implement that

445
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 4: into the game plan, but it's not who he is.

446
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 4: So who he was until he wasn't I thought was

447
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: pretty darn good. But Luke, do you have to panic

448
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 4: when you've lost four or five? I think the answer

449
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 4: is resignedly yes. So, uh is it? Just get a

450
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: new coach and I'll figure it out. I mean, look,

451
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 4: what is the true stock of who Johnny Walker is

452
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 4: at this point? Well, seriously, where he is right now,

453
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 4: is it still is there still potential for it to

454
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 4: be high with just some retooling and reshaping.

455
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 3: You would imagine that when you're that athletic and you're

456
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: that young, and you're in a division that's by no

457
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: means easy, but you know it's not the hardest division

458
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: in the sport.

459
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's pretty fair way to put it.

460
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: You know, it would be wrong to just be like, oh,

461
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: this guy can't do anything. But I go back to

462
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: a dude, Like, again, what happened between him and SBG.

463
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it hasn't born fruit. I can

464
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 3: put it that way at a bare minimum. Maybe it

465
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: will the next one out. I don't know, but it

466
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 3: to this point it really happen. And then they go

467
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: back to the dude. The footwork was a mess. It

468
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: just was a mess. He was constantly crossing, and it's like, Dude,

469
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot that is just not lined up where

470
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: it needs to be for this level. Honestly, another thing

471
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: could be just going back to a sub UFC level

472
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 3: and then retooling a little bit. Now I think he

473
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: can get back here. Maybe he doesn't get cut and

474
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 3: he stays here and he goes to heavyweight. Like he

475
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 3: is a guy who I think can and will win

476
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 3: at this level, to be sure, But like when I

477
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: go down the list of all the things that are

478
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: just not in place that need to be to ay

479
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: to build further where he needs to go, but just

480
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 3: to get right, it's all it's all off for me.

481
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: And so the solution.

482
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: You can change camps, you can change weight classes, you

483
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: can change organizations, but change is in order. Whatever he's doing,

484
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 3: it's not getting the job done. Not Yeahndy, maybe.

485
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: Maybe stop hanging out with Michelle Padata. I mean, look,

486
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 4: it's a it's a you know, I'm an old old

487
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: man parent here. Look it's a fair request, right Guys.

488
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: By the way, do you like the heavyweight idea for

489
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker? I never know how to feel about stuff

490
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 3: like that.

491
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a panic move for sure, and your kneeds

492
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 4: you're responses to go. Didn't We just see him get

493
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 4: one punched at light heavyweight? So how is that going

494
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 4: to get better at heavyweight? But how it would potentially

495
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: get better is that's still a big gap for most fighters,

496
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: the two of five to taking on guys that are

497
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: cutting down to two sixty five, that speed advantage. It's

498
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: always what we said about John Jones moving up to heavyweight.

499
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: You know, there is that chance that he just goes

500
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: up there, he looks like freaking Mayweather and doesn't get touched.

501
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: You know, probably there's that chance right that that would

502
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: allow Johnny Walker a little bit more room to set

503
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 4: up some of these crazy offensive moves. Yeah, yeah, Luke,

504
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 4: maybe I would, Maybe I would right now do that

505
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: unless you are going to, let's say, announce that I'm

506
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 4: changing teams, I'm taking nine months off and I'm you know,

507
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm ripping this house down to the studs and I

508
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: got one more giant attempt to read to, you know,

509
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 4: unless he's with If he's not willing to do that, Luke,

510
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: then staying a gunslinger, going to heavyweight and hiring an

511
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: offensive only coach, it's kind of like boxing Ryan Garcia,

512
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: you know, leaving Eddie Renoso. Now he says, by the way,

513
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 4: it's because Eddie didn't have, you know, one hundred percent

514
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: of free time to give him. But going to an

515
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: offensive coach and Joe Goosen, We're like, oh my god,

516
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: this guy's already got defensive, you know, major issues. But

517
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: I guess you're just doubling down on what makes him dangerous.

518
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: I think there's two pass. Johnny Walker can go and

519
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 4: if he's gonna go the heavyweight, let's stay dangerous route.

520
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: Then let's stay really dangerous and let's get let's get

521
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: somebody who can really bring out what makes you, you know,

522
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: what makes you scream in some of your highlight reel performances,

523
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: that there's an alien in there, that there's something next

524
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: level that needs to come out. Yeah, yeah, Luke, I'm

525
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 4: going a heavyweight from him.

526
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: He's got It's crazy to me.

527
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: He's got twenty five professional fights we see, and he's

528
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: still making some errors that you just shouldn't be making

529
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: at this level at this point, you know. And he's

530
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: got great wins Michha Serkonov, just In le Deck, Klear Rounch.

531
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: He went over them before Henrique da Silva. I need

532
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: to go back and see what he was doing in

533
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: some of those fights. No, granted they're not very long,

534
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: thirty six seconds, fifteen seconds, a minute in fifty seven seconds.

535
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: It wasn't like these were a ton of tape, And

536
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: maybe that's part the part of the problem here, But

537
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I really feel like he's just

538
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: a little bit lost. It's a little bit lost, like

539
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: you're trying to redirect him, and I get that. I

540
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: go back to it. I just feel like what Trevor

541
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: Whitman did. People were like, oh, it's impressive that he

542
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: took Justin Geechee and made him better. It's impressive that

543
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: he made him better. Of course, it's equally impressive that

544
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: he didn't really change him. You know he did, hear, Yes,

545
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: of course in certain ways he did. But you know,

546
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: Justin Gachie still fights very Justin Gaechee like just more

547
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: applied in a scientific, strategic, and tactical way. You get

548
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: some of what Johnny Walker is doing as part of that,

549
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 3: but it seems like it's not really him. He's couseplaying

550
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 3: as somebody who's not himself. And I just don't think

551
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: that's best for him. I mean, who the hell knows

552
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: what it's best for him. I can't say for sure,

553
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: but I do. I am I seeing what it's best

554
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: for Johnny Walker. I don't believe that I am. I

555
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: don't believe that I am.

556
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: It's like Luke, you know, a recovering addict. You know,

557
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: do you want him to spend half the day outside

558
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: smoking cigarettes all day? No, it's not good for him,

559
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 4: but Luke, his body needs it in order to make

560
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: this transition away from that stuff. And look, Johnny Walker

561
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: is an addict to like danger and and you know,

562
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: stress and anxiety like the He freaking loves that. So

563
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: let him play. Let him play in the puddle. That's

564
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: what that you know, that's seriously I said that respectfully.

565
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 4: He is a dangerous knockout threat. Be the most freaking

566
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: dangerous knockout threat you can be. Then moving forward, because

567
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be able to rewire this computer, you know,

568
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: So Luke, let's not let's not get out of this

569
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: without saying who should be next for Jamal Hill? Because

570
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: this was an announcement of who he is and where

571
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: he might be going. So what is the next test

572
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: for him? When you look at the top ten of

573
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: these rankings?

574
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: So when I look at the top ten, the go

575
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: as follows. Johnny Walker was sitting at ten, Jamal Hill

576
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: at twelve. I suspect he will leap frog him there

577
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: and go into the tenth. Now Paul Craig is sitting

578
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: at eleven. He might have something to say about that.

579
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: But in general, let's say let's say Jamal Hill gets

580
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: to the top ten, then you would have either Craig

581
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: or krilov Uzdamir reyes On Calive above him. At that

582
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: point you get into the top five. Santo Smith rackets

583
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: per Hotchkin and Blohovich, I think they're a little bit ahead.

584
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: So in that space. Who would I like to see

585
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: I like any of those fights? Dude, where's dominic Rey

586
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: has been? That's a tough test for him. Vulcan Uzdimir

587
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: was on Twitter chirping about wanting some of the smoke.

588
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: Nikita Krilov is vastly improved from when he had his

589
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: first stint in the UFC, and.

590
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Even Paul Craig didn't.

591
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: Paul Greig, if memory serves, didn't he beat Jamal Hill already? Yes,

592
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: he did, so you could sixty three if yeah, exactly

593
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: that was justin dude, that was in June of twenty

594
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: twenty one. Holy smokes, so it's barely not even been

595
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: a year. Like, there's a lot you could do with

596
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: this guy.

597
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: That's why I was going to counter you and say

598
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: I don't want the Craig rematch this quickly, because they

599
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 4: both looked like they're going somewhere. So if they are

600
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: going somewhere, let's reunite them, you know a little bit

601
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: further down we have to be Yeah, any of those

602
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 4: names you mentioned. Look, I think he's at the very

603
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 4: least succeeded in all of us taking him very seriously. Now,

604
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 4: so that that's a that's a victory at the end

605
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: of the day in a lot of ways, and and

606
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: you know, if you didn't know them, now you do.

607
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, wow, Luke. If I make weird grunting faces

608
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: like I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not gonna,

609
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: I'm not pooping in my pants, that's just the you know,

610
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: I get. I get those those intermittent blasts of pain

611
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: and then I, you know, get all curmudgeony and growth.

612
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, dude, I really want to make fun

613
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: of you. But the problem is I've been there so

614
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: many times that I actually do feel genuine, heartfelt sorrow

615
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: for you. But I am hoping that the doctor tells

616
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: you you're going to be paralyzed starting tomorrow. Okay, point

617
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: number two, let's talk about a little We'll talk about

618
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: all the other stuff from that card a little bit

619
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: in the a little bit later, and especially in extra

620
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: credit point number two BC Logan Storly had I thought

621
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: the biggest fight on paper, certainly one of the more

622
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: meaningful fights on paper anyway. Heading into this past weekend

623
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: main event Bellatoor two seventy four, a welterweight showdown, didn't

624
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: quite know if it was number one contender at a

625
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: bare minimum pretty close, and it got a little dicey

626
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: there in the third and fourth rounds for Logan Story,

627
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: but he gutted it out and he beat basically in

628
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: the end, I think in slightly overmatched Nieman Gracie. Does

629
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: this win in your mind, BC turn Logan Story into

630
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: Bellatore's number one welterweight contender.

631
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: See. So, for all intents and purposes, it was yes,

632
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 4: that type of performance. It was gritty, it was gutsy.

633
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it was so much to like about it.

634
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: But man, this is a crowded title picture, a top

635
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: that Yarslav Amislav is going to fight MVP coming up

636
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: and can't wait, one of the better matchups you can

637
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: make in the promotion. But Jason Jackson, I think has

638
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: the resume at the moment that trump's everyone else with

639
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: the five straight wins and with the only loss in

640
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: nine fights being really kind of a disputed decision. He'll

641
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: have to beat Douglas Lima coming off of that losing

642
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: streak first. So it's almost as if we have three

643
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 4: in the third being Andrey Khorshkov, which I'm sure we'll

644
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: get into, who also looked insanely great on Saturday night.

645
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: We had sort of three fights where I think the

646
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: winner in each could make a large statement to grab

647
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: that attention and to cut that line. Yeah, I think

648
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: this was potentially a line cutting performance. You know, I'm

649
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: not sure which direction Scott Coker is gonna end up going,

650
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: but Storley put his best foot forward in trying to

651
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: find out. And what was interesting Luke was for all

652
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: the talk heading in about who's grappling, you know, who's

653
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, whose ground game grappler versus wrestler would get

654
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: the edge, would get the advantage. You know, this was

655
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: almost Usman Covington won in terms of the reluctance of

656
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: both to even really want to find that out. It was,

657
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: you know, eighty nine percent on the feet and Logan

658
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: Storly can box man, and we saw that that motor,

659
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: that aggressiveness against Amasov, which really put him on our

660
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: maps in that three round war they had. But with

661
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: the questions he had to answer coming in Man, it

662
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: was great to see him pass that test, and Luke,

663
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: it was great to see him get legitimately tested in

664
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: what was a bat shit c fourth round. I'll give

665
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: this fight credit. It heated up, it got better as

666
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: it went on and they heard each other and it

667
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: looked like Storley, who later said he thought his orbital

668
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: bone was broken. He went, no, he couldn't feel it.

669
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: They both were in the deep end of the pool.

670
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: And I got a lot of criticisms for some of

671
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: emon Gracie's strategic decisions, but no critique for his heart,

672
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: his willingness to exchange. By the end of this fight, Luke,

673
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: these two went at it. You got to learn a

674
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: lot about them. And obviously logan story rightfully, so is

675
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: the is the big headline here?

676
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk about nemon Gracy in just

677
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: a second, but speaking with story in this fight more generally,

678
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: I thought this was a This was the performance I

679
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: think he needed. Quite candidly, the Amasov one was super close.

680
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: Maybe you could score it for him, but you know,

681
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: I didn't. I thought that Amasov I scored that fight

682
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: in real time, and I thought Amasov did it, did.

683
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: More work in the end. It was so close though,

684
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: and then he gorse he had that rematch. Oh.

685
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: I used to say the rebound fight in South Dakota,

686
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: which gets an unhelded opponent didn't do all that great.

687
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: And he's been this guy who's been on the radar

688
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: for such a long time. I remember when Douglas Sema

689
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: I think, first lost the title. I was looking at

690
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: the waltterweight division saying that, you know, Biltmore's got a

691
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 3: lot of young guys who are on the come up

692
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: here who had to take some so but people who

693
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: take stock of them. He was one of them, if

694
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: not chief among them. And here he was in a

695
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 3: five round fight where he didn't go back to his

696
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: normal strengths of wrestling basically at all. I mean there

697
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: was a little bit where he had to, but more

698
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: or less at all. So he was fighting outside of

699
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: his normal comfort zone, didn't rely on previous strengths, stuck

700
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: to a game plan, showed a ton of heart after

701
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: getting could be his face broken, whatever happened to him,

702
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: gutting it out, then re rocking about basically even great

703
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: racy after he got rocked, stepping on the gas in

704
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: the fifth. You know, dude, this was again it wasn't

705
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: complete in the sense that he did everything, but he

706
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: did a five round main event outside of his comfort zone,

707
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: stuck to a game plan, fought out of resistance, fought

708
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: out of bad places when he had to and then

709
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: really stuck it to him in the end, there by

710
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: making sure he left, you know, a no stone unturned

711
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: by the time it to the judges. That was a

712
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: very very developed performance, and we should say something, BC.

713
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: You see a lot of these guys who are wrestlers

714
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: who go to Sanford MM and they come out looking great. Dude,

715
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: Henry Hoof down there, and I'm sure it's not just

716
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: him but him and then all the coaches who have

717
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: a role whoever down there at Sanford MM, led by

718
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: Henry Hoof, I'll put it that way. Who's getting these

719
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: wrestlers like Mike Chandler who can go low go high.

720
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 3: The reason why his his wrestling was so successful, BC

721
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: is yes, his hands have come such a long way,

722
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: and they gave him a great game plan. But at

723
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: least early he was threatening the level change constantly and

724
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: it worked, dude, to put him off to a good

725
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: pace to take that first round. Set the tone early. Dude,

726
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: those guys at Sanford m A. They know what they're

727
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: doing generally, and they're doing a great job with these

728
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: wrestlers transitioning over.

729
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: You know, that's where Rashad's found a little bit of

730
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: a fountain of youth as well by putting in work

731
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: against all those guys. But so story, I really you

732
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: nail that. I really liked that he put all of

733
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: those other doubt or whispers or concerns or fears we

734
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: had for him away. He is ready whether he gets

735
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: whether he gets a title shot next, or who look,

736
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: maybe he gets freakin' Andre Kureshkov next, which would be

737
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: a hallacious number one contender fight. Whatever he gets next,

738
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 4: he seems to be in a great spot. I do

739
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: want to just like, are we victim of falling for

740
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: the fool's goal though of two non traditional strikers engaging

741
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: in a striking match and thinking that he's more advanced

742
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: than he is. I mean, the Amoslav fight was a

743
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: little bit different because it was on the ground a

744
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: lot and it was just constant back and forth momentum.

745
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: But do you think he can have this type of

746
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: striking performance against a much more season deleite striker or

747
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: do you not worry about that because depending on the matchup,

748
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna spend half of that fight on the ground anyway.

749
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be the latter. Gracie was the one that

750
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: makes it dicey because if you go down there, you

751
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: don't want to get subbed or reversed or you know,

752
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: something like that. So he was really quite quite fearful

753
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: of I think understanding it. But just look ato the

754
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: rest of the division. Let's say Logan Storley fought MVP,

755
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: He's not going to wrestle. That's probably all he's gonna

756
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: do is wrestle. If he fought Douglas Lima, I suspect

757
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: to be the same thing. Now, of course he'll combine

758
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: different things, but you know, wrestling will be a it

759
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: will feature prominently. Or how about Jason Jackson, It'll feature prominently.

760
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: How about to your point, Koreshkov. It'll feed every way

761
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: it goes other than this gracie fight. It will have

762
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: probably a very strong element of wrestling. I think the

763
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: better question would be, hey, what if Lima or Lesso MVP?

764
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: But what if Lima or Koreshkov can stop those takedowns

765
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: and now he's forced to trade with him on the feet. Well,

766
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: then I don't know how well he does. But assuming

767
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: he can mix the threats up, yeah, you see, he

768
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: can beat a lot of guys. He can be he

769
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 3: can be champion in Bellator, in this walterweight division.

770
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely very fair.

771
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: Uh now we got to talk Gracie.

772
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: So Luke, it's like, what was your criticism of his

773
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: tactical choices.

774
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: I'm curious, way too willing to take to roll the

775
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: dice on the feet when it was clearly becoming up

776
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: that Story was getting the better of the exchanges and

777
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: his power was just having much more of an impact.

778
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: Obviously short of that fourth round where both had monster moments.

779
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: I just thought, look, in the end, I scored this

780
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 4: five rounds to zero for Story, which is what one

781
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: of the three judges had and I and you know,

782
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: it comes down to if you're Gracie. You know he

783
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: raised his hands at the end of the fifth when

784
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: the fight was over, and I want to give him

785
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: so much respect for just gutting it the hell out

786
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: and like I mean, he took bombs and he just

787
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: kept coming back, and he was finding almost creative ways

788
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: to land some looping shots in the fourth and fifth round.

789
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: But Luke, I don't think he tried nearly enough to

790
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: bring this fight into his strength. Right. Yeah, there was

791
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: that late stand up by the referee, but it wasn't

792
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: like Gracie was trying to you know, go for trips

793
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: or shooting for the legs, or even trying those Damianmya

794
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: type situations where you just fall back into guard and

795
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: hope the guy comes with you. I didn't see that,

796
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: and we know that he needs that, he needs to

797
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 4: live in that spiderweb to have the greatest chance to win.

798
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't get just rolling dice and going all right,

799
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: let's see if I can outstrike him the rest of

800
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: the way. I mean, it would have been brilliant in

801
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: round four when he hurt Storrely, if this turns into

802
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: a quick finish, we're like, holy crap, look at naming Gracie.

803
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 4: But that's a big gamble to take, Luke.

804
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: It is a big gamble to take. I mean, here's

805
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: the thing about Niemon Gracie that I just feel like

806
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: we got to put in context. I think when his

807
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: first foray into Bell Tour began, people just did not

808
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: take him seriously. I mean, it took his ground game seriously,

809
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: but like they didn't think he was gonna be what

810
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: he ultimately ended up becoming, which was a top welterweight

811
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: contender who has much more well rounded skills than people imagine.

812
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Even his Jiu jitsu has gotten better for MMA purposes

813
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: by tightening up what works, you know, picking the high

814
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: percentage stuff and really sticking to it. His wrestling has

815
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: gotten a lot better as well, Like he has vastly

816
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: exceeded expectations in terms of where he started to where

817
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: he is now. To your point, there obviously still is

818
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: a bit of a gap between him and the top

819
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: of that division. Jason Jackson has beaten him and now

820
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: logan story, so you're putting a couple of those names

821
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: ahead of him in that list, Rory MacDonald as well, Right,

822
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: so you know he's got some work to do. But

823
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: I just feel like, while I can acknowledge b see

824
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: that you know this this he rocked storrely in the fourth, right,

825
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: so it wasn't a total loss in that sense, But

826
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: I think your point is it just had too much

827
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: of that Demi and Maya versus Anderson Silva thing where

828
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: it's like Demian, Okay, you're struck with him for four

829
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: rounds already, you didn't get knocked out, but it's just

830
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: not going anywhere.

831
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Go try something else.

832
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: And I think you know, and one thing we didn't

833
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: talk about a lot was his last win against coming

834
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: into this fight against Mark Leminger, where he walked Levinger

835
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: down and kind of like brutally stopped him. And I

836
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: think that may have given Gracie a a non realistic

837
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: look at his own striking game.

838
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll just say this, for as fair as I

839
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: think there, the argument is that he still has some

840
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: development to go to really put his stamp on this division.

841
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure.

842
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we don't side of

843
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: the fact that sometimes guys don't get a lot of

844
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: acclaim or praise and they end up vastly exceeding what

845
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: maybe we thought of them, maybe even what they thought

846
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: of themselves or even the promoter. I think Nieman Gracie

847
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: is that guy still, I think relatively. I'm not sure

848
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: how old he is, have to look it up, but

849
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: thirty three, so I got a little bit of time

850
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: to do some work. Hasn't taken a ton of damage

851
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: in his career, and I got to say for him too,

852
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, you're right, there probably could have been a

853
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: couple of things. The Hindsight's Ala was twenty twenty, but

854
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: two guys who showed, by the way a five round

855
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: cardio for this. You know, yes, they were tired, but

856
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: they were still pushing in the fifth. You know, I'm

857
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: glad Bill to Or made the switch. And while this

858
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: was not the most you know, barnboarding fight beginning to end,

859
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: it certainly took on life in the championship rounds. So, dude,

860
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: here was amazing. If that fight was just three rounds,

861
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: it was kind of a boring ho hum fight. Five

862
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: rounds you got a much more contested affair, much more

863
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: difficult affair when where both guys had to rally out

864
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: of bad spots and injuries, it was suitable for us

865
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: to sort which contenders deserve which placements. And by the

866
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: way we see, I think that should be factored in

867
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: depending on what happens with MVP. Excuse me, Douglas Lima

868
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: and uh now I can't even remember who the hell

869
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: he's fighting anymore. I'm ast no MVP is fighting Amasov.

870
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: Who's Douglas Lima fighting? My brain doesn't want listen to Jackson.

871
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Jason Jackson.

872
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I do think the fact that this one was five,

873
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: I believe that one is only three.

874
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Depending on how that goes.

875
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: We should wait this one a little more heavily because

876
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: it was a much more difficult affair.

877
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: Would you live in a world where any number one

878
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: contender fight, whether it's a man event or not, should

879
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: be a five round.

880
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Fight if the pay was summarily changed, if the pay was.

881
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: Changed, because I do would like I know that there's

882
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 4: a whole chail son and argument against five round non

883
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 4: title fights, and some guys just you know, they still

884
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: have the cardio for it. I mean, it gets dangerous

885
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: sometimes in those last two rounds, but it also ends

886
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: up being sort of that uh you know, that makeshift

887
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: gatekeeper to tell us who is ready for this or not.

888
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: So you're right, it changes the strategy a ton, but

889
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: it kind of shows us who's ready and who's not.

890
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't. I wouldn't hate it. Look, I really wouldn't.

891
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate it either. Let's go to point number

892
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: three here. This was a special one. I had not

893
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: intended to like make this a point, you know, heading

894
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: into when I was thinking about what will likely make

895
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: the rundown on Monday, I would not have put this

896
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: there ordinarily, at least on paper. And then the fight

897
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: turned out the way that it turned out, and I

898
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: just can't not talk about it. How about Andrey Koreshkov

899
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: and what he did to Chance Rencounter. Now we'll talk

900
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 3: about the injury a little bit later in the show.

901
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: He broke a bunch of ribs and it was the

902
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: worst thing you've ever seen in your life. Very rarely

903
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: do you see like a catastrophic injury like this. But

904
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: here's a more important question.

905
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: BC. Fucking Andrey Koreshkov is only twenty nine years old,

906
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: feels like he's been around forever. BC.

907
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Where does he rank after Saturday in your mind among

908
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: Walter Wait's in Belletort and among Walter Waits more generally.

909
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: I think it's time to revisit this conversation.

910
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: I think you're right. So I thought his his comeback here,

911
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 4: which included a non beltor sort of regional fight in Russia.

912
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: But then it was that absolute domination of Sabajol Masi

913
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: and now this Luke. If Scott Cooker wanted to and

914
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 4: just said sorry, former champion, he just dominated two guys

915
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 4: that were you know, okay names here, I'm fast tracking

916
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: this guy to the title. I wouldn't be against it, right,

917
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. You wouldn't hate that even though this division

918
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: is so crowded. He's right back where he should be,

919
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: and it's it's really I didn't think he could be

920
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: this good given the layoff, the injuries. You know, he's

921
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: had some big losses in between. You know, he lost

922
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: chapters two and three of the Douglas Lima Rivalry. But

923
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: this is freaking violent. I mean, this is this is

924
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: prime Spartan Kureshkov Luke. It is just heavy. Everything he

925
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: throws is precise and heavy. It's hard to say where

926
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 4: does he rank now globally in the top ten at

927
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: this weight division, because you would have to see him,

928
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, matched up against some guys outside here to

929
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: really prove where he's at. But he looks like he

930
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: can contend with anybody right now, Luke, I mean you

931
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: when you make when you were able to mix together.

932
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: And it took him a while to learn this game.

933
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: We always referenced that Ben Askern title loss early on,

934
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: where it was just a novice in there and he

935
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: got you know, I mean, he got ridden really like

936
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: a horse the whole you know fight. It was one

937
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: of those Ben you know Ben Askern trash talk taunting moments.

938
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: But he still has the explosiveness and then obviously the

939
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: power and the timing, but he's mixing it now with

940
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: lessons learned and IQ like you know, all those years

941
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: put in and he's got a good team there, like

942
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: Alexander Schlamenko has been in his corner of the former

943
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: Beltore middleweight champions since day one. So uh yeah, Luke,

944
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: I feel like he could he could make a tough

945
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: ass fight against anybody in the world right now, and

946
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 4: that that's you know we fra Dude, be honest with me,

947
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: when he was going for two years where you forgot

948
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: he existed.

949
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 3: Yes, totally. I will claim absolute mia culpa on this one.

950
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: I have forgot. I mean, I've respected this guy at

951
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: certain times when I thought everyone was disrespecting him. But

952
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: now this this is a different conversation. This is BC.

953
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: Now let me correct the record. I said he was

954
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: twenty nineties thirty one or I think he just turned

955
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: thirty one, whatever the case. Yeah, it will be thirty

956
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: two in August. He's thirty one. He made his debut

957
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: in March in Bellator debut in March of twenty twelve,

958
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: so he's coming up on ten years in Belatore, thirty

959
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: one years old.

960
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: BC.

961
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: How many guys have we talked about who you know,

962
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: they're twenty seven years old or something and they haven't

963
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: quite figured it out, but they've gotten a lot better

964
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: what they were when they were.

965
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three. That's true.

966
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: I think he's on his probably last major developmental cycle.

967
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: But this is the part where a lot of the

968
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: pieces of the game, and the experience and the savvy

969
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: and the athletic development all began to merge right here.

970
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: And everyone gets a little bit differently in different times.

971
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: But koresh CoV to me, is coming into his own

972
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: lands a spinning back kick and then as soon as

973
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: chance but you obviously let it go grabs for the takedown.

974
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: He was already automatically breaking the wrist and turning into him,

975
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: And of course it wasn't a full throatt effort because

976
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: he was in dire agony. But the point I'm trying

977
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: to make is I just feel like he's a lot

978
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: more ready for the kinds of challenges that previously have

979
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: given him trouble. He'll never be as good on the

980
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: mat as he is on the feet, that's probably pretty fair,

981
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: and he does have a lost via choke to Douglas Lima,

982
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: so to me, B c. What I would like to

983
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: see is if Logan Story is not your number one

984
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: contender for whatever reason, it's either Lima or Jason Jackson

985
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: at that belt or London event, fine.

986
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: Let it be what it is.

987
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: Logan Story would be a hell of a test for Koreshkov,

988
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: because Koreshkov suffered greatly under Ben Askrin. Obviously a lot

989
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: of other guys have had some issues, are some successes,

990
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I should say, with him on the ground, that might

991
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: be the fight to make. But I definitely believe that

992
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: this guy on the right night, on the right night

993
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: can beat top five talent abs so effingolutely he is good.

994
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: Any fight right now between Jason Jackson and these two

995
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 4: Story and Kureshkov is money and I and like, let's

996
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: give let's give Beltore credit. They don't do everything right,

997
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: but this is a division. They have a fun young group.

998
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this is great, you know. And obviously Belta

999
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: is going to launch the Bantamway tournament the Grand Prix,

1000
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: and it's it's stacked. We can't wait for it. And

1001
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: there's certainly other divisions where they have sometimes you know,

1002
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: more strength than others. But you know, these guys are luke,

1003
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: These aren't, you know, retreads. These are guys that are

1004
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: coming in here and they're going for it at the

1005
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: same exact time, and it's fun to watch.

1006
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: How weird is it, by the way, that Beltore has

1007
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: had two of the worst injuries I've ever seen in MMA.

1008
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: I've seen guys break ribs. I don't think I've seen

1009
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: five in one or I should say I don't think

1010
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: I've seen five from one strike. I don't think I've

1011
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: ever seen five from one strike. And the other part,

1012
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: and again we'll get to that a little bit later.

1013
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: But the other part is, like we said this on

1014
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Friday ABC, he fights mean, dude. Is there a greater

1015
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: example of him fighting mean than the immediate intensity with

1016
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: which he throws? Ever, it's it's jarring to his opponents,

1017
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: even when he doesn't break the ribs, when he just lands, Like, dude,

1018
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: this guy fights with a certain intensity you just have

1019
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: to respect.

1020
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. We were, you know, covering Showbox this

1021
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: weekend in Orlanto, getting to hang out with Barry Tompkins,

1022
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: Rowl Marcz and you're just you know, you're talking fights,

1023
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: fight history, fights we've covered and you know, you end

1024
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: up talking about that some guys just have a different

1025
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: like fighting will like in spirit to them. And you

1026
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: go to somebody like Manny Pacio and you're like, okay,

1027
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: you know he was selling donuts and cigarettes on the

1028
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 4: streets and his teens just to try to you know,

1029
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: keep his family, you know, out of like the worst

1030
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: level of poverty. And when somebody like that makes it

1031
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: and I mean he fights like he's broke even in

1032
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: his you know, early forties, Many Pacquiao. I mean, it's

1033
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: a special gift. But you look at him and you

1034
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: get it right. And there's certain other guys who we've

1035
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: seen come from just ridiculous backgrounds in the US and

1036
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: they've got this next level fighting spirit. But Luke, there

1037
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: is just something about the Russians right now, and the

1038
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: and the all of those countries. Man, it's just like, I.

1039
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Mean, it's just it's exciting. It's exciting.

1040
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: It's just in it's a it's an intensity, Luke that

1041
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: it's like, I need to see what you went through

1042
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: to have this as your default foundation like demeanor, you

1043
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, how how the hell do

1044
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: you fight that devastating because you know, you know, there's

1045
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: some shit that went down Unfortunately, Luke, that formed you

1046
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: know the basics of who these individuals became, and these

1047
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: guys are villains in an action movie.

1048
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: Luke, Sorry what I was gonna I did want to

1049
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: point out that I think koreshkof fights me. And the

1050
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: other part is you had the MVP knee over Cyborg

1051
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: and you had this kick to the ribs. Both injuries

1052
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: that happened in Bellatore two and then of course not

1053
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: a five thousands heart attack. You have some of the

1054
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: more devastating injuries I've ever seen have happened in Belatore

1055
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: and buy things that you have seen throw. You've seen

1056
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: a million spinning back kicks, You've seen a million jump knees,

1057
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: but for some reason they happened over there.

1058
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: Those dudes got wrecked. As a consequence, you never noticed.

1059
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: There's like an inordinate amount of stick kicks in Belitor Luke,

1060
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: It's a lot of kicking in the dick man.

1061
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: I mean it used to be worse at heavyweight. Who

1062
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: was the big guy who It was like he was brock.

1063
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: He would turn the country of the color of a

1064
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: country time pink lemonade. He was like a former army guy,

1065
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: big old dude and he had like six fights in

1066
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: a row where either he did or someone he was

1067
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 3: fighting the fight had to be stopped because of nutsack

1068
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: kicks that just that crippled people. And it went on

1069
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: for like years. Were like, dude, how does this motherfucker

1070
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 3: still keep kick kicking people on the balls and getting

1071
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: kicked in the balls.

1072
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: I have to look up his name, I forget.

1073
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there for Mitrio and Caratanov was a

1074
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: recent belator. Like the first strike of the first strike

1075
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: of the fight, it's over. Yeah, it just tends to

1076
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: happen there a lot.

1077
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: I'll find I'll find his name here in a second. Let's

1078
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: talk about little bit of boxing BC, because there were

1079
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: some good ones over the weekend. And how about hell Brook.

1080
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: We were not so sure how this one was gonna go.

1081
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: We knew Amir was washed. We were concerned kell was washed.

1082
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Kel ain't washed, not yet, not on this night. He

1083
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: wasn't washed, dude. He didn't just beat Amir Khan. He

1084
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: beat Amir Khan from the opening bell until the referee

1085
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: had mercy on him one way traffic basically the entire

1086
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: time dominant. Does this prove not only obviously Brooke was

1087
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: better than kN of course, but BC he still has

1088
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: something left in the tank. The obituaries on Kelbrook's career,

1089
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: they came a little early, didn't.

1090
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: They They did, and at the end of okay, look

1091
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 4: look for what this fight was, which was a sloppy

1092
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: super Bowl. I mean, his performance was a ten out

1093
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: of ten. And that starts with the shape he got

1094
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: in and Luke, even though he got stopped by Terrence

1095
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: Crawford his last fight, just like Amir Khan did two

1096
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: fights ago, Brooke came into that camp just I mean,

1097
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: best shape of his career. So he's take making his

1098
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: twilight seriously, and we knew there was potential for him

1099
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: to just be way more fresher than con and it

1100
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: played out that way, and it's it's like, man, this

1101
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: is the story of every American fight, because like, I

1102
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: liked his game plan and I liked moments of big

1103
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: success he was having. But I don't want to overplay

1104
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: how good kel looked and what this win means for him,

1105
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of what could be next. I mean,

1106
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 4: he's gonna get a pay day out of this, but

1107
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: I really fear that that payday is gonna come against

1108
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: some young, hungry dude, which is inevitable in the life

1109
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: cycle of fighting that you feed your olds. You're young,

1110
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 4: and you know somebody's gonna hurt him because I don't

1111
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 4: think we really know exactly how much Kel has in

1112
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: the tank. And when fights go into the second half

1113
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: and they're competitive and close, you know, his body, his

1114
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 4: face sometimes can fall apart. But yeah, for this level,

1115
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: for this matchup, his patience, by the way, you had

1116
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: to know coming in, no matter the version of the

1117
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: American you're facing, that you're gonna get a hurricane of

1118
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: combinations enhandspeed in the first round. And that was that.

1119
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: But I love that Brooke command the center of the ring,

1120
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: didn't use too much energy and just weighted, weighted right

1121
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: hand counter and every time he touched Con it was

1122
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, I mean this one it turned out to

1123
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: be a mercy stoppage, Luke, And it was a great

1124
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 4: stoppage by Victor Laughlin, the referee, because Con was one

1125
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 4: punch away for about two and a half rounds where

1126
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: you're like he's in a flat line, like when it connects,

1127
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: he's you know, there's gonna be a catastrophe. So I'm

1128
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: glad that we saved that. But It's like, if you

1129
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: get really excited that, oh Kel's not as washed as

1130
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: we thought, Guess what, Luke, They're just gonna put him

1131
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: in there with a stud, and that stud could break him.

1132
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: You know, okay, fair if what ends up happening is

1133
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: Kelbrook by virtue of this performance, ends up getting someone

1134
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: who is you know, young, hungry, talented, and you know

1135
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: he's reaching too far by virtue of the promotional extra

1136
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: muscle that this one had. Fine, I'm not anticipating that

1137
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: he would win. But even Stephen, who's your guy, their

1138
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: bread man, was sweeting about this and he was saying

1139
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: he thinks too that Brooks washiness has been somewhat overstated. Now,

1140
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: obviously you've got the eye injuries from some devastating fights.

1141
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: I rewatched the fight with.

1142
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: Brooke and Errol Spence, for example, and his whole shit

1143
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: was rocked from that one, to say nothing of the

1144
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: Triple G fight on top of that. Like he has

1145
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: reached above and taken damage, he is not the same guy.

1146
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: I understand that. However, you see in this one he

1147
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: was to your point, he was patient, he was calculating.

1148
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 3: He was also just like to me, he looked physically

1149
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: like this was a joke to him. He could have

1150
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: done with a much tougher opponent and physically held his

1151
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 3: own I think that's the point I'm trying to say.

1152
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 3: But because okay, okay, but maybe maybe you're right, maybe

1153
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: he leaped frogs too far. But the idea that like

1154
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: kell Brook is so beat up that short of someone

1155
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: being also extra washy, he can't win, I don't.

1156
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: Agree with that. I think that's going too far.

1157
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: I do agree with that only because he's kind of

1158
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: a different version of a mere Con right now, meaning

1159
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: like that sharpness we saw there against against Con who

1160
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 4: just has zero punch resistance left, like that, that same

1161
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: sharpness would be there. Look and look there's talks of,

1162
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: you know, should they put him in there with the

1163
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: Brett Young prospect, Connor benn or I've got even Chris

1164
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: U Bank is calling out, you know, kel to move

1165
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: back up to middleweight like he did against Triple G

1166
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: and try to face him for the money. And you're like,

1167
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to see him get hurt there. But

1168
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: is there other welterweight matchups where he could look great

1169
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: for four or five rounds? Yes, there are, But I

1170
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: still it doesn't change that fear that he implodes eventually

1171
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 4: in a just you know, in a destructful way. But

1172
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to harp on that too much because

1173
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: he looked great and Luke, this turned out to be

1174
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: an event, man, And I always shout out UK boxing,

1175
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: not just the energy of the fans in the arena,

1176
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: because I mean that whole nation and the multiple uh

1177
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: you know parts of it, and let's obviously lump Ireland

1178
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: and with this, like it's just real to them out there.

1179
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: I mean, boxing is hot and that arena experience. I

1180
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: know it's two faded stars, but it's still two stars

1181
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: who had like what an eighteen year beef against each other.

1182
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 4: I was ooh, like if you could feel that watching

1183
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: at home, how great the pop was in there and

1184
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: the energy and the feeling. So it turned out to

1185
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: look like a pay per view, you know, Championship Maine

1186
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 4: event in the end, Luke, and it was. It was

1187
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: good to see those guys get that moment. It was

1188
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: good to see Brooke get carried around by Dominic Ingle afterwards,

1189
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: and no one had to you know, share fluids this time,

1190
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: at least not a camera. And I kind of wish

1191
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 4: both can just retire because I love that they hugged

1192
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: in the center of the ring afterwards. I love that,

1193
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 4: you know, they buried the hatchet and even the mere

1194
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 4: cons like, I don't even remember sparring you back in

1195
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: the day. Bro, I know we're we built this whole

1196
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 4: feud on this. I don't even remember the sparring session.

1197
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: I wish they'd just both walk away at thirty five.

1198
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1199
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: Let me read you it. Let me read you a

1200
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: tweet from they got paid.

1201
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 4: They got paid, Luke con got seven.

1202
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: How much do they make for this Conk.

1203
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: Got seven, got seven, and I think it was four

1204
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: for Brook, So they got paid.

1205
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: Dude, all right, God, it's good. It's a good payday

1206
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: for them. Actually, this is a tweet from Steven Edwards.

1207
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: React to this what you think, because I know you

1208
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: respect him highly. This is a great trainer. In boxing quote,

1209
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: a fighter gets stopped and he gets called Chinney. Brooke

1210
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: is and he put it in all caps, not chinney.

1211
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: He's actually sturdy. Triple G would stop ninety nine one

1212
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: forty seven's ever Brook never went down. Spence broke his

1213
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: face and stopped him. On attrition, Bud landed a perfect shot.

1214
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: A sturdy sharpshooter always beats con Brooke equals sturdy.

1215
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

1216
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 4: I think that's right because we're not talking about his chin.

1217
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 4: We are just talking about the fear of his face

1218
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 4: walling apart. And maybe, look, maybe that's too aggressive of

1219
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: fear because two big punchers did it in big time

1220
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: title fights. Do I think Kelbrook could beat the elite level? No,

1221
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: we saw his close up against Terrence Crawford. I know

1222
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Bud is next level, but I think if he wants

1223
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: to hang on again, another big payday and it's probably

1224
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: going to be against a riser. You know, is it

1225
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: out of the question that he has a Nondo donair

1226
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: type late career moment or mini research. It's not out

1227
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: of the question because of the shape he's in and

1228
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: because you're right, he looked fricking sharp in there. So yes,

1229
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 4: he is sturdy, Luke, But there's an expiration date within

1230
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 4: the fight. I believe on that sturdiness.

1231
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1232
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: By the way, sort of thinking about this content, well,

1233
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: you know what, No, it's not really worth bringing up

1234
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: all that much, but do you by the way Kahn

1235
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: afterwards said, I think this might be it. He didn't

1236
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: declare retirement. For the love of God, you have to

1237
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 3: hope this is Con at his end, because he even

1238
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: said it's not Bomack's fault, who was his trainer. He

1239
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: looked to be in great shape on the scales, like

1240
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: he did the physical work. He talked about trying to

1241
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: get his legs under him, and as soon as Kel

1242
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: started landing on him, everything just collapsed. It looks to

1243
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: me like his body is at the end of its run.

1244
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: I'm really hoping this is the end.

1245
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is the worst scenario for a fighter

1246
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: to hang on because Con still got it offensively, Luke.

1247
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: I know that he was largely hurt during this fight,

1248
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: but I thought he won the second round, and I

1249
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: thought he had moments. Really, you know, every round played out,

1250
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Con would kind of control the first two minutes and

1251
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: they get rocked in the final minute. I mean, that's

1252
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: how it played out. So if you're Con, and that's

1253
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 4: the story of his whole career. If you're Con, you're

1254
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: probably thinking, well, man, I still got it right. I mean,

1255
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: how many times we see fighters hang on, Luke when

1256
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: they got nothing left, but they're the last to know

1257
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: about it. How about when you still physically you're still

1258
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: quick as crap, you know, you're still I mean, when

1259
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: he was on the move against Brook, he was successful

1260
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 4: and I thought, Luke, this was probably some of the

1261
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: best head movement from con we ever saw. Does he

1262
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: still stay in the pocket too long with his chin up. Yes,

1263
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: it's sort of a problem that he's always going to have.

1264
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: But he was ducking out of the way of shots

1265
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: and then stepping to the side. I mean, the combination

1266
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: of Bud Crawford and seemed to help him. So yes,

1267
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: I fear that he's going to remember only that and

1268
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: inevitably come back once more. I don't know. I don't know, man,

1269
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: I hope not. I mean, he's made a lot of money,

1270
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: he's he's been a star. He's acted like a star

1271
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: even when we stopped believing in him. And but you know,

1272
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: he he is. He's been concussed multiple times in many fights,

1273
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: and and not to mention being flatlined a couple of times.

1274
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean that Canelo one, which I was in the

1275
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, I was ringside for in Las Vegas. It's

1276
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 4: among them that's among the most most like carrowing experiences

1277
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 4: where you're like, you know, nobody wants to talk about

1278
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: it afterwards. At how loud that you.

1279
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Get stretched for that one?

1280
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember, but the sound was just insane

1281
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: that close. And then obviously you know, his his body

1282
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: just I mean, the goat. You could see the ghosts

1283
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 4: leave him. I mean, dude, to be fair, most guys

1284
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: don't want forget coming back from that. Most guys don't

1285
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 4: want to come back from that type of loss. And

1286
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: you know, this guy's always had the balls to stand

1287
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: in there and fight. I mean, if you want a

1288
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: great fight, talk about BC's top ten great fights for

1289
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: MMA fans, go revisit his win over Marcos Madonna. He

1290
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: had to walk the tightrope all a lot in that one,

1291
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: but he did it. I mean, this guy always always

1292
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: But man, dude, you know I'm getting flashbacks to that

1293
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: Canelo knockout being there that close.

1294
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: You know that's terrible.

1295
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's terrible shit.

1296
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: You know that's all right, speaking of knockouts, and we'll

1297
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: end our top five on this BC Knucklemania was over

1298
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: the weekend, and no it was not on Brassers. It

1299
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: was actually on Fight TV. Mike Perry and Chad Mendez BC,

1300
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: among others scored some pretty significant wins. Mike Perry had

1301
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: to earn a little bit, but he got it. Chad

1302
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: Mendez looked phenomenal. I won that one basically walking away

1303
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: multiple dropping his pon m multiple times. Do you have

1304
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: any major takeaways about either the Mendez or the Perry

1305
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: victory here?

1306
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: Well, I apologize, you can dead row me that last

1307
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: Friday show. I was saying the card was Friday, it

1308
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: was Saturday. And you know there's some I mean, Dave

1309
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 4: Feldman's telling the SCHMO that it did like a ridiculously

1310
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: big gate in all this stuff. I mean, who knows,

1311
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens, but they had names on it.

1312
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 4: They gave us a reason to tune in. And even

1313
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: though I'm not I'm not Brent Brookhouse level in love

1314
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: with the format of Bare Knuckle, they do consistently produce entertainment, Luke.

1315
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's quick moving too. They don't waste

1316
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 4: a lot of time, you know, like like that next

1317
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 4: fight is starting. And my biggest takeaways is Chad Mendez

1318
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: belongs on this stage, and you know some of it

1319
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: I do. I'll admit when Mike Perry and Julian Lane

1320
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: showing up show up at BKFC. You go, yeah, I

1321
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 4: get it, I get it right, you know, yeah, I

1322
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: get it right. So but when Chad Mendez does, you're like, man,

1323
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: this guy's almost too talented and successful and regular walk

1324
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 4: of life to want or need this. And it wouldn't

1325
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 4: be the first guy though, that's done that and tried

1326
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: this and then maybe was ineffective. I mean, you know,

1327
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 4: even Paul Malanaji tried it once. But Mendes looks perfectly

1328
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 4: suited for this style. It's and it's different than boxing

1329
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: and MM and it takes asting. And he talked afterwards

1330
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: how fed up his hands and knuckles were, but his timing,

1331
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: his explosion, his ability to navigate distance. He gets it.

1332
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: And if he wants to keep making big money in

1333
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 4: big fights, I mean, try to tell me right now,

1334
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: without even a thinking about what weight class they would

1335
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 4: do it, Luke, try to tell me right now. You

1336
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: get fired up to see him and Mike Perry in

1337
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: a bare knuckle boxing match, right, It's just like, of

1338
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: course you would. It's just something like sure, he actually

1339
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: kind of knows what he's doing. So looke, do you

1340
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 4: believe him when he says he made more for this

1341
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: debut than Francis and Gano did taking six hundred thousand

1342
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: in his last heavyweight title defense.

1343
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: Maybe if he did, it probably isn't a lot more.

1344
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: And again, you know, that's just the base payer. For Francis,

1345
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: he would get some pay per viewpoints, so in the

1346
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: end he might get a lot more, but in terms

1347
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: of base pay, he probably got more. I mean, but

1348
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: this is the idea, like, this is what BCFC is

1349
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: up against. As long as they can rent the time,

1350
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: the career time of a Chad Mendez or a Mike Perry,

1351
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 3: guys who are not washed but still have a little

1352
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: bit of you know what made them great in them

1353
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: to still compete, and they've clearly got some name value, they.

1354
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: Can probably do pretty well.

1355
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how long they can survive on that

1356
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: because it does come at a very expensive cost to

1357
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: rent that portion of the career, which is really what

1358
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: a promoter is doing. They have to go above and

1359
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: beyond to get them because they are asking them to

1360
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: compete outside of their.

1361
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: Normal sort of career sport.

1362
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, what they need is I know you're asking about

1363
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: Chad and Michael, We're just thinking about BKFC a little bit.

1364
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: I do think it's worth saying they need someone.

1365
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: You know, this is very easy to say they need

1366
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: an aj McKee, and by that I mean not a

1367
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: transcendental talent per se. But what they need someone who

1368
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: at all points a promoter is just renting a portion

1369
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: of a fighter's But they need someone who could come

1370
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: up through those ranks and then beat the Chad mendezes

1371
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: beat the Mike Perry's right, because as long as you're

1372
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: just renting stars from other sports, they're only ever going

1373
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: to tune in to watch them, which is fine. You

1374
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: will get them when they're there, but when they're no

1375
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: longer there, there's nothing really holding it.

1376
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: Some kind of.

1377
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: Anchoring figure needs to be there inside BKFC to elevate

1378
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: it beyond Hey, would you tune in for Chad?

1379
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: Yes? Would you tune in for Mike? Yes?

1380
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 4: So they need expensive and short term. Are you saying

1381
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 4: they need a male page van Zant? Are you saying

1382
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: they need a grassroots We didn't know this guy before

1383
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 4: and now he's the BKFC champion and he's beating MMA

1384
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 4: guys who stove you know more than a little bit left.

1385
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: I would say as I would say the way it

1386
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: currently goes. You're getting some some pretty big MMA names,

1387
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: but not your biggest by any stretch. You're getting guys

1388
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: that Thiago Alvez i think, contended for a UFC title

1389
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: UFC one hundred against Saint Pierre, but he didn't win.

1390
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: Chad Mendez contested for a title but didn't win. So

1391
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: these are championship level fighters and so you're getting and

1392
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: Mike Perry didn't get that close. But obviously he's a

1393
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: good fit for for for a BKFC. But what I'm

1394
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: trying to point oubviously what I think is really missing

1395
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: from from Bare Knuckle Again. They can do this, and

1396
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: I think it will be good for them, But imagine

1397
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: someone coming through who like all they've ever I mean,

1398
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: maybe they dabbled in boxing, maybe they dabbled in MK

1399
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: or MMA, but somewhere along the lines, they just made

1400
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: BKFC their thing. They ran through it and then they

1401
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: started beating other stars at it in a way where

1402
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 3: they became like this anchoring thing rather than I'm just

1403
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: trying to rent what's left of someone else's athletic time

1404
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 3: from a separate sport. I think that shift, to the

1405
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: extent they can make it would be better for their

1406
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: long term chances.

1407
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: But that's easier saying.

1408
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: And look, I kind of like Chris ldlong commentary too.

1409
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: Dude, Chris, Chris Lidlelowe can't can I talk today? Chris

1410
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: Lytle knows a lot about the fight game. This is

1411
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: a guy who was mister remember when he was competing,

1412
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: you didn't care if he wanted one or lose you

1413
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: and it was It came after the loss to Matt

1414
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: Sarah the Ultimate Fighter Finale, season four, I think though

1415
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: the rebirth whatever they called it. He was just like,

1416
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck all this, I'm just gonna fight

1417
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 3: to win motherfucking bonuses, win or lose. And he would

1418
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: go out there and do exactly that. He was well

1419
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: rounded so he could play the levels. He ended up

1420
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: saying he got enough money from UFC bonuses to buy

1421
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: a home, I think a boat and then put all

1422
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: of his kids through college because he was so consistently

1423
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: not spending anything, getting these fifty k, one hundred k

1424
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: checks on top putting it in the bank, and he

1425
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: used it wisely. Good for him do that guy has

1426
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: seen a lot and done a lot and then you.

1427
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: Know, and he's there's something authentic to the way he

1428
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 4: commentates that I really like and you know, and his

1429
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: voice seems to barely get out of him, and it's

1430
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's gruffy, but he's he's a smart guy,

1431
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: and he breaks it down well. Now quickly on Mike

1432
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: Perry Luke, which was sort of billed as the headliner,

1433
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: even though the Luis Palomino title win ended up being

1434
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 4: the last fight of the night. Him and Julian Lane

1435
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 4: up the you know, the shit storm nicely. You could say,

1436
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it might not be your flavor,

1437
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: but they went all in. I mean, they brought a

1438
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: damn bat to the press conference. But this turned out

1439
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 4: to be a real fight. And you know, you can

1440
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 4: have a Chad Mendes come in and kind of dominate

1441
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: the fight and leave without any touches to your face,

1442
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: or you can go in there and get carved up.

1443
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: Mike Perry had to work a lot harder than I

1444
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 4: think any of us, and most importantly, he thought he

1445
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: would against somebody of Lane's perceived talent. Now let's talk

1446
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: about Lane here. You know, he'd been chinny at times

1447
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 4: in the past, and they talked about a lot in

1448
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 4: this broadcast, like you know, inevitably, his chin's gonna probably

1449
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 4: give out. No, dude, he actually, I think utilized the

1450
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: fact that he's had nine bare knuckle fights before used

1451
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 4: that experience to his advantage. He made this very hard

1452
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: for Perry and Luke. Perry took a beating in victory.

1453
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 4: And let's also mention when Perry won that Triad trailer

1454
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: fight against Michael Seals last time out, he also took

1455
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: a beating and that split decision win. I think we're

1456
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 4: right in saying that. You know, why Perry is a

1457
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: perfect signing for BKFC is because he does appear to

1458
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 4: have something left in the tank legitimately on the MMA

1459
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: side if he wanted to, and he certainly got some

1460
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 4: fight in him. Dude, he's used up a lot of

1461
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: that fight in two consecutive ones. Luke, there's no question

1462
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 4: about it.

1463
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: Well, he might have gotten paid for him, you know.

1464
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: I know he got a decent check, couple hundred grand

1465
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: or more from the Triad one. He probably got something similar,

1466
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: So at a bare minimum, I think you're right, you know,

1467
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: he is. Mike Perry definitely still has a lot of

1468
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: fight left in him, but he's also going through these

1469
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: blood and guts wars that will shorten that window for

1470
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: however long he can use it.

1471
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: But I will say, like the Mendezes.

1472
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: And the Perrys, these guys who are very valuable to

1473
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: BKFC and would be valuable to other promoters, but they're

1474
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: extremely valuable to BKFC because you can get guys who

1475
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: the fans know are not done, but they're fresh off

1476
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: that UFC run. There's no there's no well he got

1477
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 3: the Triad thing, which he wont but there's not a

1478
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: lot of poisoning in between. There's not a lot of

1479
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 3: long time where these are retreads. They're not retreads usual guys. Still,

1480
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: I would argue, I don't know mendez is, but for

1481
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: BKFC he seemed prime ish And I would still say

1482
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: the same for Mike Perry.

1483
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean the way in which these

1484
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 2: fights are going, it's weird.

1485
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: Do sometimes these guys come out of BKFC fights and

1486
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about this chance we're encounter injury later.

1487
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: So I don't want to say what's worse.

1488
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: But dude, there is. There does appear to be something.

1489
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: I think there is research that supports this. The facial

1490
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 3: lacerations that these bare knuckle boxers get are horrific.

1491
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 4: Dude, They're brutal, brutal. I mean I felt bad for

1492
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 4: Paulie getting carved up that time by the goat, you know,

1493
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 4: in that one off he had as well, Luke, can

1494
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: we speaking of getting brutalized our girl Britton Beltran.

1495
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: Britton hart Loss. Yeah.

1496
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the rematch with I think her name

1497
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 4: was Farrea, the fighter who had beaten her in the past.

1498
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 4: This was for the vacant title and Luke, I don't

1499
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: know how close to you you watched sort of like

1500
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 4: the ig story of both Britain Beltran and Joey Beltran,

1501
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 4: her husband. But like Britt took this real serious, this fight,

1502
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: you know, putting an incredible camp shout out to coach,

1503
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: host Joseph Jannaker, boxing trainer and knuckleheads. But she got

1504
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: handled here. This was a very strong performance from Forrea.

1505
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 4: It's out boxer and you know, old Brent Man. She

1506
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 4: took a facial beat. I mean, look, these are like

1507
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 4: car crash images afterwards.

1508
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they well like they've been attacked by a bear

1509
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: or some kind of wild animal that was scratching them.

1510
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 4: You know, like I almost felt bad that like whether

1511
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: it's a brittonheart who's like this grassroots story who you

1512
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: know come becoming legit, or whether you're saying it's somebody

1513
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 4: you know who had success in MMA, but this is

1514
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: where they're at now, dude. The other side of it

1515
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: is like I question if it's worth it When you

1516
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 4: have to go through these type of fights consecutively, you

1517
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 4: really got a question if it's worth it, Luke. I mean,

1518
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: this is.

1519
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: It's it's a hard way to make a living. It's

1520
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: a hard way to make a living.

1521
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean it's not that it's easier with eight ounce

1522
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 4: gloves in all the head trauma you'll take combined, that's

1523
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 4: not easier. But some of that, Luke, is so to

1524
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: like hope and pray, right, you know that it doesn't

1525
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: that it's not as bad as you think. This sport

1526
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 4: you wear at home, dude, I mean you you.

1527
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: Know, yep, you get you get tattooed in this one

1528
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 3: for no doubt about it.

1529
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: All right.

1530
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: That is if for our top five b C, it's

1531
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: no longer time for you to ask me questions or

1532
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: vice versa. It's time for the viewers to ask us questions.

1533
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: It's time for DMS from Donks. As everybody knows, we

1534
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: put up a social post on Sundays, we ask you

1535
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 3: to fill it up. The producers pick them and then

1536
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 3: we answer them BC. I'll go first here at high

1537
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: underscore on underscore tubs. Oh jesus fuck uh. Someone's asking

1538
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: me how bad is Jamal Hill's chest? At well I

1539
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: like Jamal Hill. By the way, you spelled Jamal wrong,

1540
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 3: both the well More viewer the producers. We're trying to

1541
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: pick it, but they still spelled it wrong. You know

1542
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 3: this segment can do nothing but get me in trouble.

1543
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: I'll say, my last tattoo did not come out the

1544
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: way I wanted, so I'm hardly in a position into critiquet.

1545
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: It was not great.

1546
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't think I've heard you say that, Luke.

1547
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: It didn't come. It didn't come out great. It didn't come.

1548
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 3: The problem was I picked the right guy. He executed

1549
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: it exactly the way that he was supposed to, but

1550
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: the aftercare ended up being somewhat unforeseen. Someone I should

1551
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: have planned better. Just a calamity, just a completely.

1552
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 4: Is it a calamity because of different practices in Columbia

1553
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 4: or what?

1554
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: Yes?

1555
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: But not totally part of it was because of the

1556
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: heat out of nowhere the day after getting a tattoo.

1557
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with tattoo, because I've gotten

1558
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: it other times in my life, but I've been using

1559
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: medication to keep it off. I got a huge skin

1560
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: rash on the arm that the tattoo was going on,

1561
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: and it wasn't on the tattoo itself, but then it

1562
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: grew into it. Then the guy didn't use something called sanaderam,

1563
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: which is what they put on burn victims, but it

1564
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: allows you to cover a new tattoo for up to

1565
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 3: four or five days, sometimes a week, take it off,

1566
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: and then clean it. He just gave me regular old

1567
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 3: saran wrap, which you know, there are ways to do

1568
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 3: it that way, but I don't like it that way.

1569
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: It creates some other challenges, so my clothes are rubbing

1570
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: up against it. I would be the first person. You know,

1571
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: you got, mister brott. Let he who's it within glasshouses

1572
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: or not in glasshouses? Nolet he who is it within glasshouses?

1573
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: Throw the first stone. But you know it's not great.

1574
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: It's not great. But I've also got tattoos that suck

1575
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: and are not great.

1576
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 4: So you know, now if I joined mister, heboss and

1577
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 4: getting a tattoo of Emily Whitmeyer on my left forearm.

1578
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 4: Would you look at me any differently, Luke.

1579
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: You could get the Emily Whitmeyer tattoo, but you have

1580
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 3: to get the look on her face when I asked her,

1581
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: Are you surprised we won? Because she was almost waiting

1582
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: for someone to ask her, being like, how did those

1583
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: two fucks win?

1584
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: You know, you got to get you got to get

1585
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: that face.

1586
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: Not the one of he getting choked out, although equal

1587
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: discomfort in both.

1588
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 4: So Jamal Hill's got the double thumbs up tats, and

1589
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 4: you know what, Luke, I'm gonna give two thumbs up

1590
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 4: for him. Okay, I know that artistically they aren't amazing.

1591
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, but here's the thing I

1592
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: would say about this.

1593
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: I've said it before, I'll say it again. Anyone who's

1594
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: got multiple tattoos almost certainly has at least some of

1595
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: them being bad or at least not great.

1596
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 2: His are here, which.

1597
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 3: Means if he gets a chest or an arm or

1598
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 3: a shoulder piece, he can get them covered up if

1599
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: he wants.

1600
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: So there are some options for him. There are some

1601
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: options for him, all right.

1602
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: For at salarg that's a real name. BC, got in

1603
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: to your liver. How do you see Prince not seeing

1604
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: versus pretty boy Floyd's outcome? Now, listen to this question, BC.

1605
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: He didn't say Money Mayweather. He said the old pretty

1606
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: boy Floyd him versus Prince not Seeing.

1607
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: How's it go?

1608
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're probably meeting what one thirty? It seems

1609
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: still gonna be a puncher, and you know, obviously he

1610
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 4: just his reaction times ridiculous. His style is the most

1611
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 4: unorthodox at the elite level probably that we've ever seen.

1612
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's even more un orthodox than Roy Jones,

1613
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: to be fair. But Floyd is the I mean, he

1614
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: is the ultimate technician. He is the ultimate master of timing.

1615
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: And his Prince not seem takes so many risks.

1616
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: That's the thing is Floyd is gonna you know, there

1617
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: are times, but in mind you look, it's pretty boy Floyd,

1618
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 4: who was way more offensively inclined than Money Mayweather due

1619
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 4: to both the fact that he didn't have as many

1620
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: hand injuries at that point and you know, the size

1621
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 4: differences he could he could walk dudes down and punch,

1622
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 4: you know, and and gaff reaching out and mentioning, Uh,

1623
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 4: you know, uh, Emmanuel Augustus, You know that the famed journeyman,

1624
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 4: the drunken master, who gave Floyd what Floyd always says

1625
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 4: was his toughest fight of all time. You know it was.

1626
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: It was just a tough fight with constant, weird movement.

1627
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 4: Now seam would would succeed in that, but you have

1628
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: to ask yourself how long before Floyd makes the adjustment?

1629
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: And you know, the well tweight version of Floyd, he's

1630
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 4: one hundred percent focused on finding that hole and making

1631
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 4: the adjustment. The pretty boy Floyd is a little bit

1632
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: more offensively in kline, but I think the threat of

1633
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 4: not seems power and reaction, timing and speed would force

1634
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 4: Floyd into an early version of that money Mayweather defensive.

1635
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 4: You know, just you can't solve it. And I think

1636
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 4: by the second half of that fight, Floyd's going to

1637
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 4: time him and he's going to discipline him with the

1638
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: right hand. And Luke. As much as people say, Okay Mayweather,

1639
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 4: Pacia came five years too late, I saw that fight.

1640
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: It sucked.

1641
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 4: It actually didn't suck it boxing wise, right, just in

1642
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: terms of strategy and technique. It was a very interesting fight.

1643
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 4: And I think what so many people realized. Was Floyd

1644
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 4: never known for a puncher, but he could discipline you

1645
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 4: with his counter shots because they're so clean and they

1646
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 4: are hard, and they're on the money.

1647
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: And Lloyd rising and surprise, they always catch the guys

1648
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: when they're not expecting it.

1649
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: Floyd disciplined Manny Pacio at two key moments of that

1650
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 4: fight to make sure that we didn't see the crazy,

1651
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: exciting Pacquio that we saw for a hiccup in that

1652
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 4: fourth round when he backed Floyd up and he heard

1653
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 4: him it was it was in rounds one and two,

1654
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 4: and it was in rounds ten to eleven, by standing

1655
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: out there right in front of him, encountering with hard

1656
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 4: right hands and basically saying, dude, Patio, come with that shit.

1657
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 4: But like you're there's gonna be a receipt, you know

1658
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 4: what I mean, You're gonna You're gonna you know, do

1659
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 4: you have flashbacks of Marquez all over again? Because I'm

1660
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 4: gonna make you that and and I think he can

1661
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: do that to to Haam Ed Luke. I think I

1662
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: think Floyd beats him. And you know, I'm a I

1663
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 4: am like a day one ish Na seem Hahmedfit. I

1664
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 4: mean I remember, like in the late nineties, a couple

1665
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 4: of years, I was really not even watching boxing that closely.

1666
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 4: And yet when Nassne fought on HBO, you you made

1667
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 4: a party about it over it, You know what I mean?

1668
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 4: It was it was a it was an ordeal. When

1669
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 4: he came to MSG fight Kevin Kelly, Oh my god, Luke.

1670
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: Big deal, big deal, all right?

1671
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,520
Speaker 3: At Schwanky Tray, he writes or she writes, whoever it is.

1672
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 3: Is it safe to say that Connor is the exception

1673
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: and that SPG and Cavanaugh are overrated? I got this

1674
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: question a bunch BC. You want to tackle it first.

1675
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm interested in your take on this. Look,

1676
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 4: I don't know it as in depth. I have seen

1677
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 4: this in both boxing MMA where one camp is so

1678
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 4: successful because of you know, sometimes one man, two or

1679
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 4: two men that you just assume they'll have the Midas

1680
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: touch on everyone, and then you know they go through

1681
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 4: that season where they take on all these clients and it,

1682
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 4: you know, doesn't always work out statistically, from Freddie Rhoads

1683
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 4: to you name it, okay, but people seem to have

1684
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 4: an online vitriol for SBG that's next level, and maybe

1685
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 4: that's just automatic because Connor is such a divisive figure

1686
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 4: tied to that gym.

1687
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 2: But is it fair, Luke, It's somewhat fair. Now.

1688
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: I've never exactly seen eyed eye with John Cavanaugh. I

1689
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 3: remember years ago I reported this was when Dylan Danis

1690
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: was first being considered as joining that camp, and I

1691
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 3: had reported that he was being brought in as a coach,

1692
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 3: and Kavanaugh took great exception to that. He's like, he's

1693
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: a training partner, he's not a coach. And I'm like, okay, well,

1694
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm not in the camp. I don't know that. But

1695
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, and when Manny Pacio brings in sparring partners,

1696
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't bring in guys better than him, he brings

1697
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 3: in guys worse than him. And also, you know, for

1698
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: a training partner, why is he also cornering with a

1699
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 3: corner's license. I mean, he's maybe he's not quite coach,

1700
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: but calling him a training partner seems not accurate either. Anyway,

1701
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter at this point. Anyway, and here we

1702
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: are now, now here's part of what is going on.

1703
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of backlash towards Connor, and

1704
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: so I think some of that is just bleeding over

1705
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, and it's not all that fair. However,

1706
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: there is probably a question to ask about is there

1707
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: a difference between the results they get from Connor and

1708
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: everyone else. I've heard criticisms of that camp quietly from

1709
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 3: other people, both inside and outside of Irish MMA. Even

1710
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: the most are and critics tell me that, you know,

1711
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: Kevanaugh is a good coach and does know what he's

1712
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: talking about. So I don't think you can say that

1713
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: this is some like Connor's success, for example, is not accidental.

1714
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 3: And to the extent that other members of that camp

1715
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: have had other forms of success, I don't think any

1716
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: of that is accidental. And also of part of having

1717
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 3: a great camp be see, and you know as well

1718
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 3: as I do, is like, dude, this is one thing

1719
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: for Henry Hoo have to take Logan strolling and turn

1720
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: him to what he's into. But also you got a

1721
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 3: Logan story, You've got a four time All American who

1722
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 3: wants to walk in the room and train hard and

1723
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: learn every day. Not everybody gets an opportunity to work

1724
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 3: with someone like that, so so understand that. But in

1725
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,440
Speaker 3: saying that, I have just not seen enough broad success

1726
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 3: at scale from that camp at levels commensurate not even

1727
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: to Connor, but like you know, top five guys. In

1728
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 3: part there are recruiting challenges because he's in Ireland, he's

1729
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 3: not over here. There's a lot of other factors, but

1730
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: there probably is something to be said for the fact that,

1731
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 3: like early on when Connor was saying, I have I

1732
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: see this game and all new ways, there was a

1733
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: lot of questioning about, like Kavanaugh, what his ideas aren't Again,

1734
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: he is a very talented coach. I don't think you

1735
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 3: can say he's not, but he was probably sharing. There

1736
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 3: was a probably both guys were probably ballooned up to

1737
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: the front of the or push to the front of

1738
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 3: the pack. Is like these guys have all the right

1739
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 3: ideas and now you're seeing that that comes back down

1740
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 3: to a more ordinary, earthly level.

1741
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: The other thing is to BC this is true.

1742
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: Some guys can have an advantage early in the game

1743
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 3: a coach and fighter tandem. Then the rest of the

1744
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 3: game can catch up and all of their perceived advantages

1745
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: go away. It doesn't mean that they were wrong, It

1746
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: just means they couldn't keep a lap on the competition.

1747
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: So something the long way.

1748
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 3: Of answering this is to say, I think there's something

1749
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 3: to it, but be careful about how you apply their criticism.

1750
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 4: Well, look, results very based on different circumstances. But I

1751
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 4: think sometimes what happens is the coach becomes famous alongside

1752
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 4: the fighter, and they've been working with each other since

1753
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 4: day one. But the fighter is just so next level

1754
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 4: adaptable and smart and athletic that, you know, the coach

1755
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 4: only knows how to train that style to success. And

1756
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: when you try to take that and implement to guys

1757
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 4: who are not as athletic, smart, you know, and all

1758
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 4: these other things, you're inevitably going to have, you know,

1759
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 4: mixed results. And I think we just saw this happen

1760
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: in some form or other. However, the root of it

1761
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 4: is to to what Jackson Wink was, you know, on

1762
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 4: top for so long and now gets criticized, whether it's

1763
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 4: fair or not. And and for us as a hobby

1764
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 4: as well.

1765
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 3: No doubt about it, no doubt about it. The difference

1766
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: I would say, though, was Farras also took Rory to

1767
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 3: championship level.

1768
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: And granted, GSP is.

1769
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: You know, one in a million, but you you've seen

1770
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: other evidences of Farras taking people to pretty far extens

1771
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 3: again rat garbage.

1772
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 4: Before this past weekend.

1773
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 3: Poor rack garbage. He was fighting so well until he wasn't.

1774
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, here's the part. Let's again the jury is

1775
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 3: not out yet. You gotta be careful about some of

1776
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: these criticisms. I think there's something to be sad for it,

1777
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: but let's not overstated, all right from gus nofa. Have

1778
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: any of you dabbled in playing any instruments? If so,

1779
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: which one do you see you play any instruments?

1780
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 4: So I had, I have, I hash still have a

1781
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 4: great dad, and you know, looking back, and he's and

1782
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 4: he's he made me the music fan that I am,

1783
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 4: or at least built that foundation just by you know,

1784
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 4: being an obsessive, smart, you know fan across of all

1785
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: styles and genres. So I started playing the drums in

1786
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 4: third grade and my dad went like all out and

1787
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 4: sign me up for lessons and bought me a really

1788
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 4: awesome set. And and you know, it's obviously, looking back, luke,

1789
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 4: if I could have just told myself one piece of advice, right,

1790
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 4: go back to like eight and nine year old me

1791
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 4: and like, hey dude, just stick with those drums, bro okay,

1792
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 4: cause it's gonna be you know, it's gonna open up

1793
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 4: a whole world of of fun life in your future

1794
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: in many different areas. Right. But you know, every week

1795
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 4: you go to your drum lesson and they add on

1796
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: another ten minutes of practice, you know what I'm saying, Luke,

1797
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 4: And before you know it, you're practicing for two hours

1798
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 4: every day and you're like, dude, I want to there's

1799
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: like some pro wrestling and cartoons on that I'm I'm

1800
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 4: supposed to be watching now, you know, just just you

1801
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 4: look back, you know, what an asshole, right? And you

1802
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 4: know my dad was so great. He was like, you know,

1803
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 4: if you're gonna quit, that's fine, but make the decision,

1804
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 4: you know, And I quit, Luke, And I think we

1805
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 4: sold the drum set within a couple of days, and

1806
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 4: it was just sort of like, there goes that chapter

1807
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 4: in my life. And since then, Luke, like a lot

1808
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 4: of people, I have dabbled on the guitar and played

1809
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 4: you know, three four or five chords and had years

1810
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 4: that I was more into it than others. And but

1811
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, it's not like I could pick it up

1812
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 4: and entertain you, Luke, Okay, I can just make weird

1813
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 4: noises on it. So how about yourself, Luke, I'm gonna

1814
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 4: guess that you grew up playing the clarinet or something

1815
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 4: like that, but like intensely for years.

1816
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned clarinet. No, not for me, although

1817
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: my brother played clarinet and still does. Actually he could

1818
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 3: play the clarinet and he could play guitar and play.

1819
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 4: Well well, well, hold on, if you're playing adult clarinet,

1820
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 4: you're probably playing something pretty cool like jazz related and stuff.

1821
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 4: What what does he play like? I don't know where

1822
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 4: is he playing?

1823
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 2: Just for home? Just practices? Yeah, just plays. He played

1824
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 2: in a band like for a little while in high school,

1825
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: flash college, but you know, just dabbling nothing, nothing serious.

1826
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1827
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't play any instruments. It's one of the major

1828
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 3: regrets that I have. And can you imagine my dad,

1829
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: the man who handed out Roy Rogers coupons on Halloween BC?

1830
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: What would be if you wanted to get your kid

1831
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: interested in music, but you wanted to pick the lamest,

1832
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 3: shittiest instrument known to fucking man? What would you select

1833
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: for him? Just the fucking worst?

1834
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 4: Like are we talking about? Like the flute? Are all

1835
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: things in play?

1836
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: Here? Look? The flute? The flute would be a major upgrade.

1837
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 4: Gaff guessing the triangle. I won't think it's.

1838
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 2: That would be equally pathetic.

1839
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: But no, hopefully your dad understood the need for more

1840
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 4: cow bell, Luke. But I don't even think he's that cool.

1841
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: So no, all right, you know what the violin is?

1842
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: The cello?

1843
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: No? No, no? Do you know what the recorder is?

1844
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1845
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a little plastic y flute.

1846
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like buying your dinner at

1847
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 4: seven to eleven, which I've done many times. Yeah, I

1848
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 4: guess it's.

1849
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: Like it's like my dad being like, I want my

1850
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: kid to learn how to play music, but I don't

1851
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 3: want to inspire confidence about any choices he ever makes

1852
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 3: in life, and I want him to look as uncool

1853
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 3: with a music instrument that plays just the least appealing

1854
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: sound of any instrument known to man, including the butthole horn.

1855
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 4: For that admit, Luke, admit that that that decision by

1856
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 4: your dad is ninety nine percent influenced by the idea

1857
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 4: that he doesn't want to pay the extra money to

1858
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: like rent a trumpet or something that he knows you're

1859
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 4: not gonna be you gonna care about in a year

1860
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, no, give me the plastic flute. Okay,

1861
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 4: let's go.

1862
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: All right.

1863
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 3: That is almost certainly what he did, And of course,

1864
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 3: three lessons in, I'm like, Dad, just fucking sucks. I'm nine,

1865
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: what are you doing? I literally refuse to keep going.

1866
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 3: I was like, Dad, I'm not going to fucking recorder lessons.

1867
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: I want to play a fun instrument, you'll play the

1868
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: fucking recorder. So that went nowhere, and then I don't

1869
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: play anything.

1870
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: There you go. That's my story. We have one more.

1871
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 4: Hey, how much cooler would I be right now at

1872
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 4: forty three if I had been playing drums for the

1873
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 4: last you know, thirty years, Luke.

1874
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd still be a bitch ass dork you know.

1875
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: No way, dude, no way, I'd be real cool, dude,

1876
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be in this line of work though, probably.

1877
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: I think the fact that we're not cool is an inevitability,

1878
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 3: not a not a detour.

1879
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 4: Like I probably would have some shitty day job, Luke,

1880
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 4: but at nights and like dimly lit bars, dude, I'd

1881
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 4: be getting at it. You know that? Right?

1882
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that?

1883
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 3: Maybe that all right? From at punch Drunk, Pete. What

1884
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: is BC's favorite part of calling fights and what's something

1885
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 3: he doesn't like?

1886
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: BC? What do you like and not? What's your favorite

1887
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: part in something you don't like about calling fights? All right?

1888
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 4: My favorite part of calling fights. I'm not the play

1889
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: by play guys, so I don't you know, I don't

1890
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 4: have the opportunity in Barry Tompkins is among the all

1891
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 4: time greats to work with. It's so fun, so easy.

1892
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 4: But look, it's the play by play guy's job, whether

1893
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 4: Tim Moore or now to react. Todd Grisham's great to

1894
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 4: react in the moment, right the fight ending moment. I

1895
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 4: love that that energy that creates that sequence. In my

1896
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 4: job as the color commentator is to sort of add

1897
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 4: that one line right, knockout happens, play by play guide

1898
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 4: delivers winner of the fight, jumps up on the corner.

1899
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 4: The opening is there in the moment for you to

1900
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 4: just in one line passionately sum up what we just saw.

1901
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 4: Those are the moments, Luke, that I love the best.

1902
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 4: The ability again to add the soundtrack to something that

1903
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm you know that I didn't choose. I didn't choose

1904
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 4: to put on the gloves and get in there, man,

1905
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 4: I will. You know, there's many days, Luke, I wish

1906
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 4: I could have been that bold and brave, you know

1907
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 4: what I mean. But that's what I love. What do

1908
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 4: I not? I don't think there's a part of the

1909
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 4: job that I don't love, Luke. I mean I even

1910
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: I even love putting the time and watching the fights

1911
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 4: and you know, and travel, reading, reading every it probably travel. Yeah,

1912
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 4: let's say it, Luke. Let's say this right now. I'm

1913
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 4: gonna announce something, Luke. Okay, my whole life, I loved flying.

1914
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: But you know, Luke, probably because I didn't fly for

1915
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 4: the first time until I was, like, you know, in

1916
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 4: early teen, and it's just it felt, you know, special

1917
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 4: and magical for a while. But then when you travel

1918
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 4: a lot for work, obviously that magic goes completely out

1919
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 4: of the way. But I was still maintaining a healthy

1920
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 4: attitude with traveling. Luke. I'm at the point now where

1921
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: I am an old bitch about getting on planes and

1922
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 4: traveling on the level I am with dealing with my

1923
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 4: forty third consecutive Connecticut winter. I'm just like, I'm done, dude,

1924
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 4: all right, I'm about matt and cruiser level time, Luke.

1925
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 4: Just you know, just drug me up. Let me lay

1926
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 4: back in the bed and tell me when we get there.

1927
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, the travel sucks. It's not fun. All right.

1928
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 2: That is it for me, sir. It's time for your shitshah.

1929
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. This is what we do every Monday. BC schot

1930
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 4: War's the globe for the good and bad, the ugly,

1931
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 4: the highs and lows, the in between of combat sports

1932
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 4: and beyond. And shout out again to our regulars, the

1933
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 4: drunken Swan, all those guys on ig that just filled

1934
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: my DMS Jeremy all, I mean those it's the same guys.

1935
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 4: I love it. Thank you. This is Have you seen

1936
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 4: this ship.

1937
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: By the way, the guy who got his balls kicked

1938
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 3: constantly and bellatour our producer was right. It's Eric Prindle.

1939
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 4: Eric Prindle.

1940
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 3: Yes, he was just handing out and then taking unbelievable

1941
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 3: ball kicks for like seven years.

1942
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: It was something insane.

1943
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 4: Luke real quick. You remember that couple that got married

1944
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 4: in Vegas by Elvis. They're from Georgia, Yes, and they

1945
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 4: had MK murch on I think while they were getting married,

1946
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 4: you know, which is like the ultimate tattoo on the

1947
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 4: left bicep by the other guy put some respect on

1948
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 4: that guy's name, Damien the Donky. They that was the

1949
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 4: guy on fan subs last time who was in the

1950
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 4: airport with a dog and we kind of made fun

1951
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: of him for needing. Ah, you know that's our guy, Luke,

1952
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 4: he's you know, all right, okay, shout out. I just

1953
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 4: wanted to shout those those fine folks out, big time

1954
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 4: fans of them. All right, let's look at the ship, Luke.

1955
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 4: We start in Vegas UFC fight night. I mentioned Jamal

1956
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Hill won the fight and sort of won us over

1957
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 4: by by getting this close up. Did you see the

1958
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: pick of him and his son dressing like prom night

1959
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 4: at that post press conference.

1960
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 3: That was great, Luke, that was great and sung with

1961
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: the shades on too. That's about as cool as you're

1962
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: gonna get.

1963
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 4: So and they ended up being on the ESPN desk

1964
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 4: after and uh and I forgot who was the the

1965
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 4: the host of that desk, but they put the Sun

1966
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,719
Speaker 4: on the spot and said, with his fifty K bonus,

1967
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 4: what do you you know? What do you want dad

1968
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 4: to buy you? And it was it was it was,

1969
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, it was wholesome, Looke. We don't get enough

1970
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 4: wholesome content on have you seen this ship.

1971
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: No, we don't.

1972
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 3: This is where drunk chicks go face first and the

1973
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 3: elderly die.

1974
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 4: All right, well that was a bold fashion move by

1975
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 4: the Hill family. But did you see the bold fashion

1976
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 4: move on said ESPN desk by one Dean Thomas Luke

1977
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 4: water Weed doune here, dude. I mean it's aggressive. There's

1978
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: parts of it that I like. But Luke, rate that jacket, please?

1979
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: I love Dean. Did Dean get hit in the head

1980
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 2: with a shovel? What happened here? I don't know.

1981
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. But his uh Stephen a Smith impersonation

1982
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 4: that played during the World MMA.

1983
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 3: Awards, because step is about as good as a get Yeah,

1984
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 3: Dean's the man, but he's dressing like did he lose

1985
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 3: a bet? They do a lot of bets on that set.

1986
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Huh do you lose a bet?

1987
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure. All right, let's go to the action.

1988
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 4: Did you see David Onama David Onama rallying to freakin'

1989
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: obliterate Gabriel Benitez Luke, that's like some back alley finish

1990
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 4: right there. That is some violent shit.

1991
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,759
Speaker 2: Didn't Benita has Miswait too.

1992
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't have that info in front of me, dude,

1993
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 4: that's like a like a seven piece with like you know,

1994
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 4: the family bucket of chicken with with the side of

1995
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 4: the you know, you get all the sides. Look, it's like,

1996
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 4: you know that's the full meal, right.

1997
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 3: That's not the three piece in the soda. That's the

1998
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: three piece in the soda with the dessert and like

1999
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 3: the extra cookie that comes with it. Yeah, it reminds me.

2000
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 3: It's not quite as good or forceful, but it's a

2001
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 3: little bit like what Phil Beroni did to Dave Manet,

2002
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 3: where you're just like levitating them against the fence because

2003
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 3: you're punching them so hard and so quickly. A little

2004
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 3: bit of that, it's a nice finish.

2005
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, big time. Sprinkle a little CT on there too, probably, Luke,

2006
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 4: let's go over to some spitty shit done right? Did

2007
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 4: you see Chris and Helger end the round here in

2008
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 4: his third round? T ko Jesse Stratter by, Uh, yeah

2009
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:35,879
Speaker 4: it worked.

2010
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 3: Luke, listen, if it works, do it, dude, just call

2011
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: He was just caught looking. He was just staring at

2012
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: his opponents, being like, what the fuck?

2013
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 4: Luke's like, that's why a vape on the air, because

2014
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 4: if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad, all.

2015
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:49,879
Speaker 2: Right, exactly?

2016
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, Let's just do the full Johnny Walker

2017
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 4: experience that he and only he can deliver. Here's the

2018
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 4: prep point in which he's essentially offering lap dancewers this.

2019
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 2: It just drives me nuts.

2020
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 3: Can we not gy rate and cavort while these people

2021
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 3: are trying to do their job? Can you imagine he

2022
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 3: does this at like Chick fil a two? He's like,

2023
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 3: I'll have the number one, and he just waits for it.

2024
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 3: And while he's waiting, he's like fucking doing this bit.

2025
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 4: You know, we don't have it on this specific clip,

2026
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 4: but the referee came in afterwards to give a look

2027
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 4: and he was just like, I am not I don't

2028
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 4: I do not want what you're selling. He was not

2029
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 4: into that.

2030
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Luke.

2031
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 3: Wow, It's like it's can you imagine this guy in court?

2032
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 3: It's like, mister Walker, how do you plead? I plead

2033
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 3: guilty of being sexy?

2034
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 4: I plead horny as hell? Luke. It started high, it

2035
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 4: finished low. Let's take a look at the replay of this.

2036
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke, I thought he was faking because I've

2037
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 4: never seen this before.

2038
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 2: I think what happened was. He obviously got hit really hard.

2039
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's what the basics, but it looked like

2040
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 3: he was coming forward and then almost tried to catch

2041
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 3: his balance and then couldn't and then kind of like

2042
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 3: like ballooned backwards as he tried to write his posture

2043
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 3: like this, he tries to write it and then just

2044
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 3: falls backwards.

2045
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 2: And you know, he.

2046
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 4: Always does wacky shit like remember when you're injured himself

2047
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 4: falling on his face after that that last knockout win.

2048
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 4: So you never know if he's just playing games. Look,

2049
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 4: he Jamal Hill wasn't playing games. I'll tell you that

2050
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 4: Jamal Hill's.

2051
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: But I want to pay attention to me.

2052
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 3: Obviously he has switched stances right before this, but I'm

2053
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 3: gonna keep going back to it. You see all the

2054
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 3: time in boxing and kickboxing. This is not a claim

2055
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 3: that it's you know, it's a good thing to do.

2056
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 3: Everyone knows it's a good thing to do. But it's

2057
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 3: so rare in MMA. I want you to pay attention

2058
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 3: not just to this tiff, because he stepped with this

2059
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 3: one and he Perry's it's not quite a slip in

2060
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 3: the encounter over the top in that direct way, but

2061
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: the ones who can let an opponent throw and then

2062
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 3: not change position, just get out of the way. I

2063
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 3: mean you're changing a little bit, but your one foot

2064
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 3: is staying in place like that. The ones who can

2065
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 3: do that encounter in MMA, you're gonna see so many

2066
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 3: fights get finished by guys.

2067
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 2: Who can do that, because it's.

2068
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 3: An enormous, enormous advantage in MMA, because of the asymmetry.

2069
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 3: There's so many guys who and not do that and

2070
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 3: don't know how to react when And obviously you get

2071
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 3: hit hard doing this too because little ass glove.

2072
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: So it's a very very it's more more people are.

2073
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 3: Gonna start doing it, so the means that the advantage

2074
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 3: and its benefits will be less pronounced over time. But

2075
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 3: right now it's it's a it's a it's the haves

2076
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 3: and the have nots.

2077
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 4: And that finishing punch on the ground by Hill was short,

2078
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 4: direct and nasty, turning his chin and so like if

2079
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 4: you see the other angle, Walker is actually not not

2080
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 4: fully knocked out here now he's knocked out now.

2081
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 3: Also, it should be noted something here Walker gets countered

2082
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 3: off the jab. But he knew that Jamal was gonna

2083
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 3: lean to his own left, and he threw the right.

2084
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 3: The right actually lands for Walker. He throws that punch

2085
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 3: to intercept. So that was pretty nice. But the problem was,

2086
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 3: you know, a he got the worst of it and

2087
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 3: he you know, he was in direct line for that vicious.

2088
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 4: They found the they found that spot on the death

2089
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 4: Star and it exploded. Let's go to the next pickgaff

2090
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 4: here of we can check this out quickly. So this

2091
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 4: is we thought that was the worst of it, and

2092
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,440
Speaker 4: then the then this pick made the rounds.

2093
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Got bro these So they must be taking these with

2094
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: an insane shutter speed where they can just capture every

2095
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: little moment. I feel bad for these dudes when this

2096
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 3: gets posted, because if you're a social media manager and

2097
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 3: you see this, you have to post it. But then

2098
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 3: you see it, it's just like, dude, these guys man,

2099
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: there's a tough way to make a living.

2100
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

2101
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, he was high, he was low, but Luke good

2102
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 4: to see. After the fight on Instagram he posted he's

2103
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: high once more. It seems that this loss isn't anything

2104
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 4: that's some proper twelve pizza and blonde chicks can't fix Luke.

2105
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 4: So good to see he's back.

2106
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 3: At least he has a good attitude and they're boozing

2107
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 3: and drinking pizza in the background, So nothing wrong with that.

2108
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, something proper there. No holler head at that party,

2109
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that much.

2110
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Wow, right dude, who when you have proper twelve? That's

2111
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 2: what time it is right there.

2112
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 4: Luke the fifteen seconds of fame that is the shoey

2113
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's almost over. But here there's a couple of

2114
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 4: stragglers left. Here's Dana White. Finally, what do we do?

2115
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 3: We've got executives doing it now really.

2116
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's from the official Shoey Vasa. See this

2117
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 4: takes away the fun of it that you're selling a

2118
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 4: non shoe. You're basically selling like a water bottle, right.

2119
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is not the same thing at all.

2120
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean talking about over commercialization of something reckless

2121
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 4: in raw. It's Shoey Vasa doing it to himself here,

2122
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 4: man BC.

2123
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: I went to this bar when I was in Brussels

2124
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 3: once and they had this boot and it was all glass.

2125
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: It was a glass boot, maybe size nine or ten

2126
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 3: or something. It was pretty big actually, and the deal

2127
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 3: was if you plunk down fifty euros, they didn't charge you.

2128
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 3: They held onto it in case you ran out of

2129
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 3: the bar. But as long as you had the boot,

2130
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: they would just keep refilling it and it would be

2131
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: like a I mean, you and me could get drunk

2132
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 3: off of maybe one, at most two boots.

2133
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 2: Would you drink out of the boot?

2134
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2135
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Hecky, hell yeah, heck yeah.

2136
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 4: At another country, yeah, I'd go for it, Luke, A.

2137
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Right, Deliri it was the official Delirium Tremens bar.

2138
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 4: Actually, oh that'd be awesome. Damn, Luke. We have one more,

2139
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 4: Shorty and it comes from Shorty Shoey and it comes

2140
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 4: from Jamal Hill. This was at the way ends. This

2141
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 4: video didn't make too many rounds, but this is Jamal

2142
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 4: pulling off his own shoe and getting a taste. What

2143
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 4: is that UFC sponsored water? Yeah yeah, so, Luke, hopefully

2144
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 4: that's the last time we show shoeies on here or

2145
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 4: even do one.

2146
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: Luke, Hey, listen. At least the rock shoe is good

2147
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 2: for something.

2148
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, to probably drop a deuce in, Luke. Eventually

2149
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 4: you can wear them and then throw them away.

2150
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: You won't get any extra money, but you can do

2151
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: a shoe out of them.

2152
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,879
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying, Luke, that that little wholesome

2153
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 4: content we had earlier with Jamal Hill and the Sun.

2154
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 4: We need more of that. Let's let's go, let's go

2155
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 4: back into that window. Here's Robert Whittaker returning home from

2156
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 4: his questionable rematch loss to Israel Ota Sonia and having

2157
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 4: his three kids surprise him. I mean, what a what

2158
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: a moment here.

2159
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just pretty great. That's just pretty great.

2160
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 3: I can only imagine how great that must have made

2161
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 3: him feel, especially after a long ass flight like that.

2162
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: You know, and you got your kids waiting for you.

2163
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Man. I love to see. It's good

2164
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 2: for him and you know, win or lose, he did

2165
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 2: himself proud.

2166
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 4: I thought, absolutely. Let's go to Belcher two seven four

2167
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 4: from the mohegan Son. We mentioned rat garbage man del Nalo.

2168
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 4: He was musty TV again. He had some moments, but

2169
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 4: Nike will Nick Brown just put him the hell out. Luke,

2170
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 4: this is brutal man, bro.

2171
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 3: He was winning this fight. I thought it was close

2172
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: to a ten eight first round. He was doing almost

2173
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 3: whatever he wanted to. He was in control. But Brown

2174
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: just didn't let off the gas, just kind of kept

2175
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 3: trying and sure enough gets through steps off the center

2176
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 3: line there throws the right hand goes down and he

2177
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 3: just finishes him off. He didn't even wait. It was man,

2178
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: it was great. It was really great work by him.

2179
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Can't even deny it.

2180
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 4: I was going to show the vintage andre korshkovkick that

2181
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 4: we've now seen hi million times. If we could skip

2182
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 4: that if you want, or just show it. I mean people,

2183
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 4: you know.

2184
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Just show it, dude, it's so good to show that.

2185
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,879
Speaker 2: It's so fucking brutal pow. We'll talk about.

2186
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 4: But do you think Dennis sever reached out to him?

2187
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Also, I don't know how his

2188
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 2: German would be.

2189
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean Joe Rogan's got a pretty pretty

2190
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 4: pretty fast spinning kick too, Luke.

2191
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. But even dude, how many times you've seen someone

2192
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: shatter ribs like that? I just don't think I've ever

2193
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: seen that many in one go, in one shot, because

2194
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 2: all the punches follow up all to the head. Wow.

2195
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 4: Wow, are you saying the only ribs Joe Rogan slams

2196
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 4: is when he cooks them on an open fire out back, Luke,

2197
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 4: and then tweets does he.

2198
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 2: Cook the elk meat on the Traeger grills? That's usually

2199
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: what people do in this space.

2200
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 4: Oh, Chad, Menda is a big doesn't he sell like

2201
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 4: his own jerky or something?

2202
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: Dude?

2203
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 3: He has his own like hunting and fishing business like,

2204
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 3: uh like he takes people on these expeditions and whatnot

2205
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 3: to go hunt. I don't know, a big game, but

2206
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult to get game like turkey

2207
01:40:59,280 --> 01:40:59,879
Speaker 3: for example.

2208
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 4: You're like, hey, Chad, how about we just go straight

2209
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 4: for the BBLS. Bro.

2210
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Miami. We do some we

2211
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 3: can do some different kinds of hunting.

2212
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and Tuki's here. I don't know if you can

2213
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 2: hear her ins?

2214
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:16,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, of course. What's the movie again? The movie?

2215
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 4: What's the movie?

2216
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 2: What you were talking about?

2217
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 4: The movie of her life in Kanto? Thank you, Geff? Yes, yes,

2218
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 4: all right, Luke, your guy. How may Mongia had a

2219
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 4: homecoming to Tijuana. It was on his own. It was

2220
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 4: in a bull riding ring, which the crowd atmosphere was

2221
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, did I say bullfighting ring? Right on the

2222
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 4: edge of the ocean. The crowd was insane, and Mongia

2223
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 4: got a I guess a stay busy knockout in the

2224
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 4: third round here of Demetrius Ballard. He looked great though, Luke,

2225
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 4: it was good to see him get that type of

2226
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 4: love from the crowd. I mean this is almost a

2227
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 4: kell Brook, a mere con type environment.

2228
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling you how good was his opponent because Mungia,

2229
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 3: you know, first two rounds kind of was taking his

2230
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 3: time and then was just like, yeah, I've had enough

2231
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 3: of this ship, doubled up on the left hook and

2232
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 3: sent this dude in to the land of wind and ghosts.

2233
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 4: I think it was a stay busy. I don't know

2234
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 4: if it had mandatory thing, if it gets him one

2235
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,560
Speaker 4: step closer or whatever, but uh yeah, I want to

2236
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 4: see him in a monster fight. It's time, Luke. He's

2237
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, he's he's as ready as

2238
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 4: he's gonna be, meaning he's still raw. But dude, he

2239
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 4: fights hard man. Let wouldn't you love.

2240
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 2: Wouldn't hard puncher good puncher?

2241
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you just love to see him against Triple G?

2242
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean, wouldn't you just love that ship?

2243
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Come on, that's a good time to make it too,

2244
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: because triples a.

2245
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 4: Little Yeah, Luke, let's rock out with our cock out here.

2246
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 4: Check out this NBA fans simulating the air guitar at

2247
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 4: the Phoenix Suns game. Not this guy, this guy, Luke.

2248
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Just just blowing people. Huh.

2249
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean is that? I mean, you're into this, you know,

2250
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 4: hardcore metal? Is he? Is he just screaming into the

2251
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 4: Mike Cannibal corpse style looker? Is he actually simulating Falatio?

2252
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 4: You're you're you know, you're thoughts listen.

2253
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 2: I think this guy was like, when this is over,

2254
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play some eer guitar and blow some dudes.

2255
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 2: It's gonna be rad. And it probably was for him,

2256
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:08,799
Speaker 2: it was probably awesome.

2257
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 4: All right. All right, speaking of headbanging, Luke, let's go

2258
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 4: over to Finland, where they held a heavy metal knitting

2259
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 4: contest where you and your grandmother can finally have, you know,

2260
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 4: similar things to get excited about.

2261
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 2: Luke.

2262
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 3: See, I'm a metal fan, but I have nothing in

2263
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 3: common with these dorks.

2264
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's my look too. It's more like, okay, this

2265
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: is sad.

2266
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Oh, who's looking at that guy? Look at that?

2267
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 4: Look at the whoa.

2268
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Whoa want to watch bad watch bad Sumo?

2269
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 4: Is that tip on tip right there?

2270
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's just what the fuck are we doing?

2271
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm kind of coming around on this

2272
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 4: Lucas is uh.

2273
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 3: All she made was like a ball hammock. It's like, listen,

2274
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't need that. I've got man scaped. I don't

2275
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: have disgusting genitals anymore.

2276
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 4: Well, they have trophies too. This is girl. Look at

2277
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 4: their chair. They're just jamming out at the end. This

2278
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 4: is great.

2279
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe that. Well, you know what, there's

2280
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 3: actually some racial diversity there. But I was gonna say this,

2281
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe most of them. It seems so out.

2282
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 4: Of it went over the crowd too. By the end

2283
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 4: of it. Luke, they want to there's like Rocky four.

2284
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 4: This is great, Okay, shout out to Finland. We never

2285
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 4: talk about them. H it's BBL time, Luke, tru or false.

2286
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 4: You've been to You've been to Columbia. This is how

2287
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 4: a real man handles a Latin woman tore false Ye, Luke,

2288
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 4: damn right, bro?

2289
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Is this Ray Mysterio Junior?

2290
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 4: Who You're like, I'm waiting for the concussive neck brank.

2291
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 3: I can't wait for one of them to fall. And

2292
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 3: I was like, no, they're actually awesome.

2293
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 2: No.

2294
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 4: The fan that sent us in said we can celebrate

2295
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 4: wins too on the show. Luke, there's a win.

2296
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: You know.

2297
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,799
Speaker 3: I don't know where this is from. I'm maybe Kylie,

2298
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 3: which is the home of salsa. I don't know, but

2299
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 3: these fuckers can dance, damn right. This is me trying

2300
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 3: to put my daughter to bed most nights. It's about

2301
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: as successful in terms of inducing slumber.

2302
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, indeed, Luke, let's go to the subway. Speaking

2303
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 4: of BBLS, I don't know how this guy stole your mask,

2304
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 4: but he's not wearing it out in public, Luke. It

2305
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 4: says Latin women are the best.

2306
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Luke.

2307
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know where he got this mic, and

2308
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 3: he's obviously got his left hand and you know, kind

2309
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 3: of place right now.

2310
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 2: But this is Listen, not all heroes wear capes BC.

2311
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes they wear.

2312
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 4: Masks all right. Back to uh not really honestly.

2313
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, if Fauci and the CDC had come out with

2314
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 3: one of these things, I don't think masking would ever

2315
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 3: have been a controversy in this country.

2316
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 2: They just do that. Listen.

2317
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 3: We got these masks, they say Latin women are the best.

2318
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 3: We need you to wear man. We're like, okay, that

2319
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 3: sounds right.

2320
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 4: Let's go over to prime MMA one a Polish ocean. Luke.

2321
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 4: Check out this late stoppage in this all female battle.

2322
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Luke, I mean once they turn their head,

2323
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 4: shouldn't the fight be over?

2324
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of things I want to say. Oh,

2325
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 3: now it looks more normal. A man has joined. Is

2326
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,839
Speaker 3: this where they get undressed?

2327
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, you're like, I've actually seen this adult

2328
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 4: film before. It's very vild.

2329
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: It started out just like this, but it went a

2330
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 2: very different direction.

2331
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 4: All right, Luke. They usually say Fridays on MK or

2332
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 4: for the art because BC's on the mic, but Monday's

2333
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 4: on MK. We social social art show some art from

2334
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 4: time to time. Here's artist Boo Boo Design. He has

2335
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 4: paint on his boxing gloves here, Luke, this is uh wow,

2336
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 4: your thoughts as this comes together?

2337
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,799
Speaker 3: Oh and he does Ali in the pool upside down. Indeed,

2338
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 3: I like he went from like jabbing to now like.

2339
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:16,919
Speaker 4: But look at the finished product, dude, that's insane.

2340
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ridiculously talented. That's insane.

2341
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 4: Shout out to Boo Boo Design. Yes, not Boo Boo

2342
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:26,679
Speaker 4: wild thing, Luke. That's a although MMA related that's another story.

2343
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 2: Also, there not Booboo Andrede. That's a different.

2344
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 4: Guys as well as well. All right, Luca's time for

2345
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 4: hot dogs to the face. Does this should this video

2346
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,759
Speaker 4: make my liver power and fear or make me arouse

2347
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 4: with your thoughts?

2348
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: Man? How did this one clear?

2349
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 4: The producer? Yeah, like we did. We did show a

2350
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 4: death that time in that circus incident. But uh, maybe

2351
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 4: this is.

2352
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 2: Jeez. Now now I'm the horny one. What is going

2353
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 2: on here? This is terrible for me. Uh, this is

2354
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: not professional?

2355
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, back to real sports, Luke. Let's go

2356
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 4: to Russia from boxing. Over the weekend, Jorge Lenares, the

2357
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,879
Speaker 4: veteran Luke signed with a Russian promotion, made his Russian

2358
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 4: debut and zaur Abdulajev in the twelfth round sent Lenares

2359
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 4: packing via KO twelve. Luke, tough turn of events.

2360
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hoping for Lenares to have a better

2361
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 3: run here, candidly, but it might be he's got a

2362
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 3: lot of damage, dude.

2363
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 4: Good thing is he's had a few of these throughout

2364
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 4: his career, these sort of surprising knockout losses. We were like, oh,

2365
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 4: he might be done and then he just comes back, Luke.

2366
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, this looked bad.

2367
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: This did not.

2368
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just looked he looked weary. He looked weary

2369
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 3: in this world. Now that's the one that gives me

2370
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of concern. But you're right, he has

2371
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: certainly shown a propensity for rebound.

2372
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: Damn those are those are some hard ass shots. I

2373
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 4: think they're trying to put Abdulayev against Devin Hainy next,

2374
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 4: although Haney already be them. So you know, it's typical, bro,

2375
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 4: these boxing referees.

2376
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 2: They can't stand wearing the latex gloves. Huh. They hate that.

2377
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: They want to get their hands all in that blood,

2378
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 2: sweat and mucus.

2379
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, indeed, indeed, Luke, there's a promotion called Acaye

2380
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 4: in Europe. This was a KYA twenty four. It brought

2381
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 4: a few different highlights, including Kasan data love celebrating by

2382
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 4: punching the camera, Luke.

2383
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little hey, let's superman punch the camera. Man

2384
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 3: who use camera probably costs more than your purse.

2385
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 4: I've heard of punching the clown in celebration when you're

2386
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 4: alone in the locker room afterwards, Luke, But this is

2387
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 4: a little different, a little old.

2388
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 2: This is not flogging the dolphin. That's not what this is.

2389
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 4: Indeed, Luke, on the same card, it was good to

2390
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 4: see that the pile driver has made its way back

2391
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 4: into Russian Mma.

2392
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually expressly illegal. Oh that's more of that's

2393
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 2: more of a tilt.

2394
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 4: That's a scorpion pile driver.

2395
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 3: I think, Luke, it more of a tilt than any Yeah,

2396
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 3: in a little bit, a little bit.

2397
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 4: Wow, that's what my back feels like. Luke. That right,

2398
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that much.

2399
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 3: But you didn't do it for this. You just did

2400
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 3: it from trying to not be gross.

2401
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed, Luke, you're p MMA. I mean it just

2402
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 4: hits different on this show. Did you check out this

2403
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 4: argument cage side somewhere in Europe that turned into some hands? Dude?

2404
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 4: Did you see this?

2405
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, this is slick. So you notice he's got

2406
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 3: his left hand doing the talking and the one that's

2407
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 3: closest to his face. But he lines up south Paul

2408
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 3: right here and then just lets it go with the

2409
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 3: left first, the one he's hiding. See that kind of

2410
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 3: clever if you actually pay attention to this.

2411
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 4: Indeed, I don't know the men involved in this, Luke,

2412
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if This is Leon Edwards Mosvidol situation.

2413
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 4: But it's not the last one we have. Let's go

2414
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 4: to some other MMA way in talk show. I don't

2415
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 4: really know what's going on here, Luke, but there's violence,

2416
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 4: so we'll check it out.

2417
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 3: Definitely, two guys who read a lot of books.

2418
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 4: There's probably a mom joke in there. And oh boy,

2419
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,759
Speaker 4: he put he put run DMC on Queer Street.

2420
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 3: There, Luke, he's still got that look in his face

2421
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, I'm still Everyone thinks I'm still tough.

2422
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm still tough. Right, everyone thinks I'm still tough. Let

2423
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 3: me see it one more time. Hang on, let's see

2424
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 3: here they exchange hands, pulls aw.

2425
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 4: Oh you pull a guy in, Luke. You better be

2426
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 4: ready for that smoke that.

2427
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a smack or a kiss. Buddy, better

2428
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: be ready.

2429
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. Okay, let's go to the Winter Olympics.

2430
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

2431
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 4: I guess you could say worst pain of your life,

2432
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 4: mister shab Luke. Did you see this real headline from

2433
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 4: the New York Post? This is legit. It's on like

2434
01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 4: many news outlets. Finland Skier uh suffersros and penis during Uh. Yeah, Wow, okay, bro,

2435
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 4: did you see this?

2436
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 3: I know you don't watch the game, but it did

2437
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 3: make some headlines for it. Did you see this US

2438
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 3: men's game against Honduras in Minnesota? No soccer was soccer.

2439
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 3: I know you don't care about this, but here's the deal.

2440
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,799
Speaker 3: These motherfuckers and it could be retaliation for like games

2441
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 3: being in Honduras when it's like hot as balls, But

2442
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 3: even then it's not the same.

2443
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 2: They had this game.

2444
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 3: It was either like Saint Paul, Minnesota or someplace cold

2445
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,919
Speaker 3: as fuck. It was minus one when the game started.

2446
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 3: Two of the Honduran players had to go to the

2447
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 3: hospital at halftime for hyperthermia hypothermia.

2448
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

2449
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this finished skier getting his dick frozen. I'm like,

2450
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 3: you've dumbasses, keep doing fucking dude, when it starts to snow,

2451
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 3: maybe call off the sports. I realized football and some

2452
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 3: other ones. You can make an exception for here or there.

2453
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 3: If it's fucking below you know, twelve degrees or what,

2454
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 3: call it a day.

2455
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Will you please call it a day? Yeah?

2456
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 4: Please, thank you. That's a good so.

2457
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 2: Fuck your dick finished guy?

2458
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 4: All right? Hey, Luke con Brook was a pretty good

2459
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 4: fight on Saturday inside the arena there in Manchester, England.

2460
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it was the best fight of the

2461
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 4: night though. Check out the crowd and this guy in

2462
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 4: the blue jacket currently on the ground.

2463
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 2: Watch this play out, bro They get busy in Sheffield.

2464
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 4: Huh Manchester.

2465
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 3: Dude was a Manchester I thought this was I thought.

2466
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 3: I thought, oh no, excuse me, excuse me. The fight

2467
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 3: with Brooke and uh Spence Spence was in Sheffield.

2468
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 2: I apologize. Yes, yeah, dude, these Manchester gets busy too.

2469
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 4: Dude, this guy in the blue jacket just won't go down.

2470
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 4: He won't stay down.

2471
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's handing out El's here South Paul, changing stances.

2472
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 4: He might have a future. Yeah, we gotta we might

2473
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 4: have to sign this guy up. Interesting crowd Lukes.

2474
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 3: Although you would agree crowdfights are the best when they

2475
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,560
Speaker 3: take place at different heights, so like one person is

2476
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 3: at one level, another person's like two or three levels up,

2477
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 3: and then they're having to fight in the middle.

2478
01:53:57,439 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 2: That's the best.

2479
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you get the high ground Luke Obi Wan

2480
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 4: style though, you're gonna you're gonna get that w luke.

2481
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 4: Everybody sends me in, you know, they just want you

2482
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 4: to rate that tat Luke Dustin Pooria edition. Your thoughts

2483
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 4: on this fans?

2484
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, he didn't get that, did he?

2485
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 4: No? No, this is a fan.

2486
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 3: This is a style called American Traditional, and.

2487
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a mess, to tell you candidly.

2488
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 4: Good abs though the abs are you know.

2489
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 3: And the fact that they got Poria's body is like

2490
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 3: kind of his Torso's kind of squarish a little bit.

2491
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's dude, it's gonna be a hard tattoo

2492
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 3: to do because you have to do tattoos on a

2493
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 3: tattoo obviously. You know, Poorier's got him on his arms.

2494
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 3: But the gloves are a mess. They're not you know,

2495
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 3: they both look different. His face is kind of weird.

2496
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 3: The shading in the back it's like super saturated.

2497
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 4: I don't like the diamond in the cross.

2498
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 3: Look, it's super saturated. Arm to elbow or I should

2499
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: stay elbow to Torso. But then around the head there's

2500
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 3: actually light shading, which you would want to bring it out,

2501
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 3: but it still looks kind of weird because it's uneven

2502
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 3: in that way.

2503
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 2: It's not great. It's not great.

2504
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 4: No, No, the diamond in the crotches, it's just I'm

2505
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 4: unsettled looking at it, Luke. Finally, Luke, let's I'll be honest.

2506
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 4: This has been met at many, many a party from college, really,

2507
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 4: really through adulthood, Luke, probably until a few months ago.

2508
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 4: Look at this guy in the background of this party,

2509
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 4: just going after it.

2510
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 2: This is me after I've told everyone I've lost a

2511
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 2: lot of weight.

2512
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 4: I went to this college graduation party one time, Luke,

2513
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 4: and like nobody showed up because the weather was really bad,

2514
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 4: so they had all this extra food. I had a

2515
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 4: full tray of lasagna over like over like a four

2516
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 4: hour period.

2517
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 3: Just mean, you think people think going to a nice

2518
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 3: restaurant is is peak eating. When have you ever felt

2519
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 3: better after eating than when you've you know, launched chef

2520
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 3: boyard into your mouth three sheets to the wind from

2521
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 3: being drunk. That is peak fucking eating right there.

2522
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 4: In Like you're not eating, you're making love to the food.

2523
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 4: To be fair, I mean, it's a you know you

2524
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 4: there's a consummation going on. I mean, look at this guy.

2525
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 4: Get that guy a cigarette.

2526
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 3: Lu Also, I should point out something like, first of all,

2527
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 3: I noticed he was taking huge mouthfuls here. I mean,

2528
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 3: look at this fucking eight right this guy is definitely

2529
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 3: a primeate number one, and half of it's falling back

2530
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 3: in with that means he's definitely likes to share.

2531
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 4: Which is Oh no, this is relatable, Luke. I know you,

2532
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 4: I know he deserves your insults, but this is relatable.

2533
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 3: Oh it's super relatable. I mean I would eat like

2534
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 3: worse than this, but I watch watch what he opens

2535
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 3: up and he turns up here. Look at the size

2536
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 3: of this creep's mouth. Ah, he's like a whale shark

2537
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 3: where all of it just gets fucking sucked in when

2538
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 3: he opens his mouth.

2539
01:56:54,440 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, Luke, Remember then, when you were

2540
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 4: that age, you could like fall asleep on a bean

2541
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 4: bag or something in some college apartment that you don't

2542
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 4: even know whose it is and how you got there,

2543
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 4: and then you just pop right back up the next

2544
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 4: morning and go on with your life. Luke. But you know,

2545
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 4: no back pain at all.

2546
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 3: Right, that was good, And now you sneeze when you're

2547
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 3: on the shitter and you have to go get an MRI.

2548
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you slept on like a like a

2549
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 4: chair before. I mean you know, like I'm talking like

2550
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 4: a chair.

2551
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 2: Sleep on actual.

2552
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 3: Armory equipment like they would when I was on the

2553
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 3: gun line in the Marine Corps. They would like store

2554
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 3: it in the back of these five tons. I would

2555
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 3: just hop on the back of the five ton and

2556
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 3: then just sleep on top of it. And now it's

2557
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 3: like if I have a crick in my neck from

2558
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 3: a two hour flight, I wake up paralyzed from the

2559
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: neck down and I have to get you know, is

2560
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 3: there a doctor on the flight.

2561
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 2: We've got a pussy in the front here.

2562
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, Luke. I

2563
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 4: laid in bed for probably about twelve hours yesterday really

2564
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 4: just asking myself, like I'm physically unable to get to

2565
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 4: the bath. You know, I'm better now, but yesterday was like,

2566
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 4: you know, I literally could not crawl there.

2567
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 3: Right now, you forget you got I'm telling you, I'm

2568
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 3: telling you, I just I guarantee this what the doctor's

2569
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 3: gonna tell you.

2570
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: Your core is weak and you just got to get strong.

2571
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 3: That's it. That's all there is to it. And you

2572
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 3: shouldn't lay around too much. You kind of kind of

2573
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 3: lean into the movement. More movement warms it up and

2574
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 3: gives you what you need.

2575
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 2: So don't rest too too much.

2576
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,839
Speaker 4: Do you think I've aged from all of these injuries.

2577
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 3: Sorry, do you think do you I think you have AIDS? Yes,

2578
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 3: I think you have aids.

2579
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 4: No aged age. Do you think I've aged from this experience?

2580
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Dude?

2581
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 3: Going to travel, traveling as much as you do. If

2582
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 3: you're not fucking deadlifting in your garage in the in between,

2583
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna. This is gonna. This is what you're gonna get.

2584
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 3: This is what you're gonna get.

2585
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 2: All right?

2586
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 4: All right? Hey, next showbox trip in March, Luke Deadwood,

2587
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 4: South Dakota. Yeah, yeah, babe, BC's coming. I hopefully we get.

2588
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Do you think we have any MK fans in South Dakota?

2589
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 3: Why is there a place in South Dakota named after

2590
01:58:58,000 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 3: your pathetic erections?

2591
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2592
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 4: I wish I could argue against that, Luke, but I've

2593
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 4: had the you know the yeah, so yeah, so much.

2594
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 4: I'm just so much for the libido, Luke. Yeah, that's great?

2595
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 2: Is that? It is that all your ship?

2596
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know my idea though, of of of your

2597
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 4: buying thats okay? Now now you can hear me my

2598
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 4: idea of buying that that restaurant and employing down on

2599
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 4: their luck former MMA fighters as as waitresses and then

2600
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 4: having a ring in there just in case they need

2601
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 4: to settle their you know, because every restaurant you work

2602
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 4: at our bar, there's back room differences, you know what

2603
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, And having them potentially you know, fight in

2604
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 4: the bar for extra cash and me being like the

2605
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 4: Patrick Swayzee of this organization, is that morally questionable or

2606
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 4: is that providing a second act for these fighters?

2607
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: I would say.

2608
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 3: Having a fight club at your bar is probably going

2609
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 3: to get you sent to jail probably.

2610
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 4: Well, like they'd sign waivers and stuff, Luke.

2611
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 2: Oh, illegal documents that hold no binding.

2612
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, all right, all right, sorry Luke odds

2613
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 4: and ends time.

2614
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 2: Yes, odds and ends. What do you got for me? BC?

2615
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 4: Look on that Belatour undercard and we didn't even mention

2616
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 4: Brennan Warden. I want to give him that shout out, Luke,

2617
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 4: for that comeback from from really extreme drug use. I

2618
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 4: mean he was, he was living the life. He hasn't

2619
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 4: fought since twenty seventeen. So on the Bellatour card on Saturday,

2620
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 4: Brendan Warda got bumped up to the main card. Congratulations

2621
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 4: on a successful comeback. He got the victory, Luke. It

2622
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 4: wasn't against a world beater, and you know afterwards he's saying, look,

2623
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's the same thing as it was before.

2624
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come in there for the knockout or get

2625
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 4: knocked out trying, so put me in there against you know,

2626
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 4: somebody big. I hope he gets his chance to end

2627
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 4: his career on his own terms. He's still still a

2628
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 4: wild man, Luke, and he's fun to watch. But on

2629
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 4: a personal note, great to see him back. But Aviv

2630
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 4: Gozali was a guy I was circling on the calendar

2631
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 4: to see him on the pres six and Ozer coming

2632
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 4: in with six first round submission wins, usually in the

2633
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 4: spectacular fashion. But Luke, he ran into a thirty eight

2634
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 4: year old Bobby King from Hawaii who just wouldn't wouldn't

2635
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 4: give in, wouldn't you know it, just would not, would

2636
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 4: not stop. And shockingly, Gozalie gassed himself out so hardcore

2637
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 4: and surviving a first round that was round of the

2638
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 4: year potential, just crazy that they stopped the fight at

2639
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 4: the start of round two out of just he was done, Luke,

2640
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 4: he was literally done. That's a shocking way to go

2641
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 4: down because he had moments in this first round. Gozali

2642
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 4: he took some big strikes, he got it to the ground.

2643
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 4: He nearly got a submission, but he used up the

2644
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 4: whole tank. Luke in that five minutes. And uh, I

2645
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 4: guess that's why you know a fight like this was

2646
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 4: on the prelimbs because of Gozali's gonna have to learn

2647
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 4: from this and bounce back. But man, as far as

2648
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 4: implosions go, that was that was shocking.

2649
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 3: Well, you're hardly telling the full story. So he, first

2650
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 3: of all, King turned in a ten eight round. I

2651
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 3: mean that was as clear a ten eight as it gets.

2652
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 3: In fact, I thought he was going to stop him

2653
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 3: a couple of times. So it gets to the in

2654
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 3: between him and the first and the second. You see

2655
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 3: what's happening here on the screen. This is what the

2656
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't in the ring. So I can only say

2657
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 3: what the broadcast booth was telling us. What they were

2658
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 3: telling us was that Avive Gozalie, who of courses from Israel,

2659
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 3: was asking for a Hebrew translator, which if you don't

2660
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 3: speak English, you are entitled to get one. The problem

2661
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 3: is the broadcast booth also says he speaks English, and

2662
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 3: I have people DM me saying they've done interviews with

2663
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 3: him in English. So what the broadcast booth said was,

2664
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 3: you know, hey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Basically,

2665
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 3: they said he was trying to get extra time. But

2666
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 3: I guess the doctor kind of figured out between them

2667
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 3: and that that you know, this dude was just not

2668
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 3: ready to go back out there, and they waved it,

2669
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 3: which was a good call. Here's my thing forget all

2670
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 3: the weird ending. The dude is twenty one, twenty one.

2671
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 3: This was a bad loss, and he imploded, no doubt

2672
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 3: about it. He's got a lot of work to do.

2673
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 3: But at being twenty one in Bellator, they can give

2674
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,919
Speaker 3: him the kind of matchmaking where it'd be extremely foolish

2675
02:02:57,920 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 3: to just to be like, oh he's no good, Well

2676
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 3: he needs he has a lot of work to do,

2677
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 3: but he can come back. The thing that's weird was

2678
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 3: that he was like I need it, or however he

2679
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 3: said it to the referee, that he needed a Hebrew translator. Boy,

2680
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 3: that's the old Uh, that's the chail son in school.

2681
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 3: They are of fighting, you know what I'm saying, Like, Uh.

2682
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 4: We've seen get get get edging again, get the edge

2683
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 4: in in certain spots we saw Diego corrals spitting out

2684
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,400
Speaker 4: the mouthpiece against Castillo to buy you know, he lost

2685
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 4: a point, but it bought him extra time. It's a

2686
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 4: it's a survival move. But you know, man, uh, that

2687
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 4: was a wild fight, Luke. Shout out to Bobby King,

2688
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 4: you know, who's been a you know, ton of a journeyman,

2689
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 4: and that's that's a big win for him. And you know,

2690
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 4: Gozalie he did. He tried to fight his way out

2691
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 4: of it, man, and that's what used up all the energy.

2692
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 4: I mean, he was, he was He doesn't have an

2693
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 4: evolved striking game, but but you know, he sat down

2694
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 4: and tried. But man uh, Bellator, I'll tell you what, Luke.

2695
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 4: They tend to have two or three of these on

2696
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 4: the prelim cards each time, where you're like, I just

2697
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 4: got I gotta see what happens. You know, they they

2698
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 4: they developed characters pretty well.

2699
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 3: It's the it's as close as you can get. It's

2700
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 3: not the same, but as close as you can get

2701
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 3: to like the wildness of the regional scene. Yeah, you

2702
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean, where you're just like I can't

2703
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 3: believe that just fucking happened. That's you get a lot

2704
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 3: of that on there. For me, I will stick with

2705
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 3: the belator card. We had kind of telegraphed it. Let's

2706
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 3: talk about it now, very very quickly. So Korshkov wins

2707
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 3: against chance Rencounter. Encounter went two and two in UFC,

2708
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 3: by the way, So obviously a guy who's got some

2709
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 3: decent experience. He'd been off for I think sometime, but

2710
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 3: here he is back. He takes this spinning back kick

2711
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 3: to the ribs which he didn't take flush on. It

2712
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 3: kind of hit underneath the armpit there and almost to

2713
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 3: the back. It ended up, and we have pictures of it.

2714
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 3: There's the picture of the strike landing. Then the manager

2715
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 3: for chance Rencounter, who is Brian Butler, gets on Instagram

2716
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 3: and you can look here and you can see it

2717
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 3: broke five of his ribs that one strike and punctured

2718
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,840
Speaker 3: his lung. He had to go into surgery to get

2719
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 3: all of that repaired. I've said it before, I'll say

2720
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 3: it again. That is you see you see injuries in

2721
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 3: combat sports. You see bad injuries in combat sports. You

2722
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 3: see injuries that look bad that maybe aren't like when's

2723
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 3: that bleed, but maybe aren't necessarily all that bad. And

2724
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 3: every once in a while you see like almost this

2725
02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 3: is borderline, if not outright catastrophic injury. It's not catastrophic

2726
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 3: in the sense of, you know, his health and safety

2727
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 3: I think will be fine, but in terms of what

2728
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 3: could happen if it went untreated, it would be extremely damaging.

2729
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 2: B See that's a bad, bad, bad injury.

2730
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that damn So early in the fight too,

2731
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,840
Speaker 4: you know, Chance didn't really get a chance to uh pun,

2732
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 4: not intended there to uh you know, show what he

2733
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:39,240
Speaker 4: could do, and you know he had it with like

2734
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 4: a sixteen and four record or something coming in. I mean,

2735
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 4: you know, the guy, the guy has fought at a

2736
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 4: fairly high level. But damn, it's perfect shot, Luke, it's

2737
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 4: the it's the damn perfect shot, all right.

2738
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 2: And what it is, I mean, it's like.

2739
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 4: It's like when Cyborg took that knee of the face

2740
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 4: from Michael Page. It's like, you know, we've seen guys

2741
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 4: take flush knees like that. Never seen a guy's forehead

2742
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 4: just cave in though, Okay, you know what I mean.

2743
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes it damn, man, you know, it's crazy.

2744
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy, all right.

2745
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 3: So that is it for us, the perfect show right there.

2746
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:11,760
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2747
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:13,800
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2748
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2749
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2750
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2751
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2752
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Speaker 3: us those things for that. Showtime dot com at the

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Speaker 3: label that pays, you can see BC. You can see

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Speaker 3: good boxing, you can see Bellator. Go to showtime dot

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Speaker 3: com get a thirty day free trial. If you like it,

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Speaker 3: you can keep it. If not, you can Pound sand

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Speaker 3: and Morningcombat dot store. We still have Live TENBC here

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Speaker 3: on President's Day you can get some merch, a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a off on in the final tally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ten percent off with Live ten do that wherever evolving.

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Speaker 4: In fact, some of the ideas we've got a little

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Speaker 4: little sneak peek at our. You know this guy, this

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Speaker 4: guy RJ right, I mean again, you know that's why

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Speaker 4: we make ridiculous jokes on there, because the guy's been

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Speaker 4: pitching a perfect game and you know, maybe he's juicing.

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Speaker 4: You know, saying, maybe he's doctoring the ball.

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Speaker 2: Performance enhancing drugs, because otherwise I couldn't explain how good

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Speaker 2: of a job he's doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke, it's President's Day, so this this me mentioning

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Speaker 4: this would make sense. Do you remember the full back

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Speaker 4: brace from neck to stern to waste that JFK wore

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Speaker 4: when he got shot by uh uh, the CIA or

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Speaker 4: the Cubans or I don't know, Oliver Stone, whoever, whoever

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Speaker 4: pulled the trigger, Luke, And they say it prevented him

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Speaker 4: from being able to fall after the first shot. That

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Speaker 4: maybe would have saved his life and kept him there

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Speaker 4: in range to get You know, Zepprudered, do you think

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Speaker 4: a back brace like that on me would allow me

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Speaker 4: to go to Jersey City this week? You know?

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Speaker 3: And and function give not need a back brace. You

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Speaker 3: need a little bit of testacles, baby. And what you

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Speaker 3: have to realize is, Dude, I'm telling you it sounds counterintuitive.

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Speaker 3: Talk to your doctor. He'll give you the proper parameters.

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Speaker 3: But for what you have, almost certainly you have to

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Speaker 3: lean into active recovery. If you sit around, it will

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Speaker 3: take longer to feel better. You got to move into it.

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Speaker 3: And dude, you gotta do some fucking dead lists.

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Speaker 2: Your core is weak. Your core.

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Speaker 3: How about yoga, Luke, yoga's good too, Yoga's good too,

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Speaker 3: Yoga's great, Yoga's great, Yoga's great. All right, whatever works

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Speaker 3: for you, BC, let me know how what the doctor says,

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Speaker 3: aside from you being pathetic and old curious to hear that.

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Speaker 3: We are back in studio for the rest of the

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Speaker 3: shows this week, so big thanks to Malka Showtime, CBS Sports,

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Speaker 3: thanks to you watching, and thanks to my partner in

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Speaker 3: crime BC, who I will see in about forty eight

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Speaker 3: hours or so. All Right, until then, thumbs up, See

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Speaker 3: you all next time. May all your games be loyal.

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Speaker 3: We're out.