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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well together everything, So don't don't do everything's a cuckucku

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Speaker 1: cucko coo caun chu cou cou chu cu cu cuckoo everything.

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Speaker 1: It's a coup and it's gonna get cooer. Not bad, Robert,

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Speaker 1: not that at all. For the purposes of what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about now and the president and the possible coup,

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Speaker 1: well what people are calling the possible coup. A friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, a researcher who I respect, pointed out that

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Speaker 1: actually what seems to be happening is more of a push,

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Speaker 1: because a coup would require the backing of the military,

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Speaker 1: and it's far from clear that he has that. So

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Speaker 1: so what's the definition of a put It's a coup,

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Speaker 1: but you know, not quite diet. It's an overthrow of

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Speaker 1: the government, but generally without like the backing of a

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Speaker 1: chunk of the government, right like when they tried the

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Speaker 1: beer hole putch, like he didn't have, like the German

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Speaker 1: military shot at him repeatedly. Pushes are easier to stop

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Speaker 1: as a rule, and probably easier to start, especially Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, my motto is always

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Speaker 1: be pushing always be putching, always be pushing. I look

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Speaker 1: at yourself, push each other, put you everything, put it all.

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Speaker 1: America puts it real good, damn it. When a problem along,

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Speaker 1: when government comes along, you must put it. We could

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Speaker 1: do this all day. This is a podcast we shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: This is what we should have done for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: For the podcast. I'm just saying the name of this

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Speaker 1: podcast is called worst year ever. You know it. He

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Speaker 1: loved to see it. I'm Katie, I'm Cody. Do you

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Speaker 1: see it in your ears? I do. He's Robert. He

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Speaker 1: does know how to introduce himself. He's Robert. No, I

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Speaker 1: am the artist formerly known as Robert. He's as formerly

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Speaker 1: known as Robert A lot. So since we last heard

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Speaker 1: our voices together, we called the election prematurely, but not

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Speaker 1: that prematurely because a little while later we were corrects

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Speaker 1: Um the Joseph Robin at Biden Jr. Has beat Donald

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Speaker 1: Robin Att Biden, Trump Robin and Trump for the position

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Speaker 1: of King of America. May he rain rain um or

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Speaker 1: until I don't know the coup or whatever. YEA, so

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Speaker 1: pretty cool when people found out, and yeah, people were happy,

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Speaker 1: and it's good when people they're happy. It is good

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Speaker 1: when people are happy. It is hard to um, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how do I phrase this? I don't have you delicate

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Speaker 1: about it. Most of our listeners agree with us. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to watch people celebrate uh Joe and Kamala and

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Speaker 1: forget the context of who they are or their background.

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Speaker 1: For me and for a lot of people, it was

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Speaker 1: a celebration of defeating Trump, which was as he's a loser. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a powerful and emotional experience. Yeah, it's the Democrats

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Speaker 1: when h and the same stupid party that reelected Truck Schumer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Yeah, it's just yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that that a lot of us grappled that this weekend,

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Speaker 1: Like there there is a joy at seeing Trump lose.

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Speaker 1: For me, I felt joy. I felt joy looking at

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Speaker 1: people celebrating in the streets. I cried a lot seeing

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Speaker 1: the proud boys sad made me that photo Trump sad

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Speaker 1: boy in the car. Yeah. Um, but it was hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to also see people waving Biden Harris flags. Uh,

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Speaker 1: knowing that these same people, at least on paper, are

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Speaker 1: for all of these progressive things that we want to

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Speaker 1: see happen, but they maybe don't realize what it means

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Speaker 1: to be wholeheartedly pro Biden and Kamala. Yeah it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Um again Yeah, joy for their loss and uh the

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Speaker 1: uh enjoying the losers lose. Um the Joe Biden um

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Speaker 1: ushered in the bad period that we just voted away.

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Speaker 1: Um and his goal and we'll talk about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit too later. Uh seems to be to reset

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Speaker 1: rid of. Do you all know what edging is? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what we're we might like. One

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Speaker 1: of the possibilities is obviously that that Joe Biden leads

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Speaker 1: us to a more competent fascist who ushers in a

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Speaker 1: nightmare health escape that makes the Trump years look like

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Speaker 1: a fucking walk in the park. Another option is that

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Speaker 1: our way into fascist. We never quite go in. We don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't ever do the electoral equivalent of coming, which

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Speaker 1: is electing Adolf Hitler. I shouldn't say that, um anyway,

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Speaker 1: which ever the scenarios that Robert Laido happened. One thing

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Speaker 1: We don't have we don't have a moon landing, we

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Speaker 1: cool to see people just like full of joy in

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Speaker 1: Cool but yeah, a lot. But and then then did

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Speaker 1: uh it was this guy in a rise of Skywalker hoodie, um,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was just like, oh, now is the day

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Speaker 1: I guess, no better time. I just want to say, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen this sentiment shared online. It's okay

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Speaker 1: two feel joy and celebrate his loss while also being

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Speaker 1: all of those emotions at once. Um. And it is

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Speaker 1: It's just a real testament. So how fucking hated this

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Speaker 1: awful creature? I was. I was listening to Knowledge Fight,

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Speaker 1: which is my favorite podcast, and it it talks of it,

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Speaker 1: like they go over what Alex Jones is doing at

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Speaker 1: all times, and like one of his one of his

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Speaker 1: employees at info Wars made the point that, like it

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Speaker 1: can you imagine Joe Biden getting the most votes that

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Speaker 1: Hannah has ever gotten and It's like, no, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: cannot inspire that kind of loyalty, but Donald Trump can

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Speaker 1: inspire that amount of hate. Yep, yep, Yeah, absolutely, we

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Speaker 1: love to see it, don't mean. I mean like, there's

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Speaker 1: back from the standpoint of showing people women what's possible,

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Speaker 1: the fact that it means a lot to a lot

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Speaker 1: but also we can do better. And also yes, I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, they're both narcs. Um. Yeah, well that's that's

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Speaker 1: the point, rights, that even even women can be powerful monsters, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: on a school bus in Yemen exactly. That's what were

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Speaker 1: that's what we're praying for. But I also like, like,

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Speaker 1: equal a partner in their democracy as as any white

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Speaker 1: don't want to I'm just an asshole and I'm just yeah,

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Speaker 1: life sentence? Yeah, you know you know who is Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 1: It's cool. I'm going to do it now. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start today. Well, we could talk a

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Speaker 1: to fabricate, but that first we should talk about four

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Speaker 1: I am an old man. On my deathbed in four years,

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Speaker 1: I think the last joyful thought that crosses my mind

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Speaker 1: Trump helda press conference that Rudy Giuliani had to speak

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Speaker 1: if you guys missed this. On Saturday, Trump team announced

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Speaker 1: love it um, but that tweet was quickly deleted and

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Speaker 1: amended to be the Four Seasons Total Landscape, and this

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of speculation about how he got there,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe you guys have heard different stories.

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Speaker 1: FARC powerful was the cocaine trade because once Escobar got killed,

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Speaker 1: like a bunch of different people fell into the mix

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Speaker 1: to kind of pick up because like cocaine was still

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Speaker 1: going to get sold, and FARC was like the group

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Speaker 1: that was most successful in in taking over the cocaine

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Speaker 1: trade and using it to fund their guerrilla war. Right. UM,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. I have no problem with selling cocaine

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Speaker 1: to fund a militant like, you know, insurgency to overthrow

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Speaker 1: the government. I think it's a great actually probably the

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Speaker 1: best thing to do with cocaine. So two thousand one,

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Speaker 1: FARC is kind of ed. It's it's it's high point,

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Speaker 1: and the US government does what the US government does

436
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Speaker 1: when a left wing movement is gaining power in Latin

437
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Speaker 1: America and says we should probably deal with this, um

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Speaker 1: And out of this comes Plan Colombia. UM. So Plan

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Speaker 1: Columbia in short, was the United States financing training the

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Speaker 1: Colombian military providing them with um like intelligence servit like

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Speaker 1: hooking them up to the U. S Intelligence apparatus so

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Speaker 1: that they know what's going on and can like track

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Speaker 1: the movements of F A r C. And giving them

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Speaker 1: these they're called packages. They're like guided missiles UM that

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Speaker 1: they can use to assassinate rebel leaders. UM. So a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff in Plan Colombia, but it's the kind

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Speaker 1: of ship that we've seen a bunch before. Like the

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00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: US government comes in and says, like, we don't like

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Speaker 1: the guys you're fighting. Let's make your army capable of

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Speaker 1: killing them. And also we'll give you air support and ship.

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Speaker 1: So the three objectives of Plan Colombia were Number one,

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Speaker 1: to diminish the cultivation and production and trafficking of illicit

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Speaker 1: drugs by fifty percent. That was their stated goal, to

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Speaker 1: bring it into the violent conflict because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people had died in the Civil war UH. And number

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Speaker 1: three two, uh cause economic growth and develop rural Columbia

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Speaker 1: because it was like an incredibly imposed frished area, which

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Speaker 1: is why the cocaine trade was such a big deal

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Speaker 1: for this part of the country, because they didn't have

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Speaker 1: any fucking money. Um, so three goals. Um, you want

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Speaker 1: to guess which one's got accomplished, Oh, Robert, none of them. Really.

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Speaker 1: They killed a lot of left wing guerrillas, they murdered

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Speaker 1: a shipload of leftists. Um. But yeah, no, they didn't

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Speaker 1: really succeed at most of the other things. And it's

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Speaker 1: interesting the ways in which they failed. So planned Columbia.

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Speaker 1: The way that they measured the success of their efforts

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Speaker 1: in destroying the drug trade was by reducing the cultivation

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Speaker 1: area of coca clop crops, right, so the amount of

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Speaker 1: land that spent to grow cocaine or the plant that

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Speaker 1: turns into cocaine. Reducing that was how they would determine

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Speaker 1: whether or not they had cut uh, drug trafficking by

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Speaker 1: And if you look at it by that, it looks

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Speaker 1: pretty good. There were a hundred and sixty headstairs under huh,

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Speaker 1: what's what's up? Coding? Okay, continue, So there were let's

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Speaker 1: stop him from growing as much of it, stop drug trafficking.

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Speaker 1: So they in two thousand there's about a hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand hectares of of coca under cultivation in Colombia. Um,

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Speaker 1: and by two thousand six there's just seventy four thousand.

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Speaker 1: That's almost more. I bet at math. That's good, right, great,

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Speaker 1: we did it. No more cocaine, that's why you can't

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Speaker 1: buy cocaine. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm wow efficient Lee. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it again more elsewhere. Yeah. Now, here's the problem

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Speaker 1: with that, and I'm gonna quote from the Oxford Research

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Speaker 1: Group here. The intensified aerial spraying, which is how they

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Speaker 1: would kill cocaine from the air, did not have any

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Speaker 1: secific significant effects on cocaine production, which only decreased by

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Speaker 1: five point three percent in the period of implementation. Innovative

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Speaker 1: production processes increased the productivity of coca per hectare and

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Speaker 1: increased and the increased cocas supply for Bolivian Peru provided

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Speaker 1: input substitutes for Colombian producers of illicit drugs. So there

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Speaker 1: was actually almost no meaningful duction whatsoever in the amount

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Speaker 1: of cocaine produced by Columbia, which was one of the goals. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other goal was to reduce violence, and of course

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Speaker 1: the f a r C was not wiped out, but

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Speaker 1: beaten so badly that in all of their leaders killed

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Speaker 1: that they had to come to the negotiating table and

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Speaker 1: basically give everything up, like they were negotiating about how

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Speaker 1: they would hand in their guns. They didn't get shipped. Um,

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Speaker 1: they you know, they got beaten because suddenly the government

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Speaker 1: had US air power and US special forces and death

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Speaker 1: squads and ship Um. But does that mean so, does

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Speaker 1: that mean it was a success that the Plan Columbia

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Speaker 1: saved lives and stop the war, stopped the civil war?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people. I think I've been listening to

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Speaker 1: any of this, so I'm gonna guess yeah, it worked.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from the Oxford Research Group again. Plan

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Speaker 1: Colombia's effects on violence reduction were also rather ambiguous. The

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Speaker 1: increased militarization meant that violence from illegal armed groups decreases

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Speaker 1: substantially over the time of implementation. So that's good, right.

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Speaker 1: The f a r C is an illegal armed group,

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Speaker 1: and their violence decreased from four hundred and nine cases

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Speaker 1: of human rights violations in two thousand to just a

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight in two thousand six. That's great

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Speaker 1: now less, It's probably worth noting that illegal right wing

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Speaker 1: paramilitaries in two thousand were responsible for one thousand cases

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Speaker 1: of human rights violations, which you might notice as more

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Speaker 1: than twice as many as the was guilty, and they

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Speaker 1: were decreased. They were decreased to five, which is more

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Speaker 1: than the F A r C was committing at their height.

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Speaker 1: More sounds Now I'm confused and don't know what to think.

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Speaker 1: That still decreases in violence, though, which is good, right

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Speaker 1: if you well, if you if you increase more and

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Speaker 1: then you decrease, so it's less but still more than

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Speaker 1: it was before you increased. Is that count well, Cody,

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Speaker 1: let me just read a little bit more here. The

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Speaker 1: decreases in human rights violations by the illegal armed groups,

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Speaker 1: as well as dramatic decreases and some of the main

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Speaker 1: violence syndicators such as the homicide rate decrease, the number

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Speaker 1: of kidnapping, decrease in the number of massacres seventy one

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Speaker 1: point four percent decrease, our arguments for the Colombian and

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Speaker 1: US governments to call Plan Colombia a success in reducing violence,

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Speaker 1: which is why, which is why Biden, sorry, they success

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Speaker 1: there are are. However, However, human rights violations of the

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Speaker 1: public forces, military and police increased substantially two d seventy

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Speaker 1: cases in two thousand to seven hundred and fifty eight

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Speaker 1: cases in two thousand six words. For example, between two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four and two thousand eight, army troops exit

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00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: extra judicially executed more than three thousand peasants, farmers, activists,

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Speaker 1: and community leaders and then dressed them in F a

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Speaker 1: r C. Uniforms and claim they were killed in battle.

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Speaker 1: So it's are gone. But the government comes the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: It's the thing. And Biden will say, like, we decreased

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Speaker 1: violence in Colombia, and it's like you decreased illegal violence

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Speaker 1: by increasing legal wild violance. Yeah. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 1: same kind of logic of Trump's great, like so many

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Speaker 1: jobs we got, Well, yeah, you lost all those jobs. Yeah, yes,

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00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: of course they're gaining back because the economy created. Like

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, now, the horrible violence that the Colombian military

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00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: is executed with the enthusiastic help and support of both

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Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. Remember this is not a partisan issue

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Speaker 1: in the number, like at least within the you know,

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Speaker 1: the main two parties. Um. During the years of Planned Columbia,

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Speaker 1: they were like about three thousand people in place displaced

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Speaker 1: internally per year, UM and uh. And that's up until

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Speaker 1: I think like two thousand ten or eleven. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the third thing, so like again hundreds of thousands of people,

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Speaker 1: just of people displaced where you're just forced out of

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Speaker 1: villages to try to deny the rebels operating space, which

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Speaker 1: is you know, a war crime. Um. And the third

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00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: thing that Planned Columbia was supposed to do was a

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: aviate rural poverty. Well then that's the rural people. But

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: they're all poor still, but there's less of them. So

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00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: it didn't really do that. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: It did not really do that. It's broadly speaking been bad.

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Speaker 1: It's been good by the perspective of I guess the

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Speaker 1: United States government who stopped a left wing movement from

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Speaker 1: gaining power in part of the global South. So I

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00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: guess the kind of people in the whatever Deep State,

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, tend to like that

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00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: sort of thing. But it was not on balance good

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Speaker 1: for Columbia at all. In fact, it was real bad. Yeah,

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00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: this is the kind of thing that that maybe happens

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Speaker 1: often like this, not this exacting, but maybe like things

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Speaker 1: like this, this sort of just happen. Yeah. I mean again,

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00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: see the episodes on the School of the America's that

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: we did and behind the bastards. Um. I again, we

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Speaker 1: have other things we'll talk about throughout the rest of

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Speaker 1: this year that we'll be doing the show that are

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00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: things that will be as bad or worse under Biden

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Speaker 1: as they were under Trump. This is one of them.

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Speaker 1: Biden is not going to stop doing this sort of ship.

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Speaker 1: Biden is going to approve and like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: saw what a Trump attempted coup in Venezuela looked like.

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Speaker 1: And in Bolivia. Well, I don't know how much Trump

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00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: was involved in Bolivia, but a lot of people like,

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna weigh into that one, but we've seen

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Speaker 1: two coups, one of which the US government definitely was

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: involved in, one of which they were probably at least

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: a little involved in, and they were both really incompetent. Um.

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about hondurass next time. Yeah. Because also

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: when these things happen under Trump, because and uh because

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00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: because I mean rightfully, so Orange Man bad, Like that's true,

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00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: that's just a true thing about him. But when things

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Speaker 1: happened like that under somebody like him, people are like, well,

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00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: that's bad that he shouldn't do that. But when it's

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Speaker 1: a respectable politician like Joe Biden, who we who We

597
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: love folks, we love them. They're even paying attention exactly,

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: they don't care enough to notice or talked about playing Columbia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if and if it does, if these things happen,

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Speaker 1: then they're generally supported because, Uh, Joe is he's the

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00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: he's a respectable, he's a guy, he's he's he does

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00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: it presidentially. Trump does it like fucking Donald Trump. So

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: it's not going to get the kind of pushback or

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00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: perspective or spotlight that maybe a Trump action might. But yeah,

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: we'll get a spotlight. Cody, uh putting on a show.

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00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: It's your solo time. You're talking about ads, aren't you. Yeah,

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00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't enjoy the jazz hands you just gave,

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Speaker 1: thank you, add time, goodbye together everything. Those ads. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about y'all. But I am just so aroused.

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Speaker 1: Um capitalism forged me absolutely thirsty. Four products, come some

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00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: money on the internet. Speaking of coming money, let's talk

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00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the US government's actions and Columbia. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to get it. So I've explained what,

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Speaker 1: broadly speaking, what planned Columbia was and why it was bad.

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Speaker 1: I had been planning to do behind the Bastards episode

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00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: on I've read like half of a book on it,

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Speaker 1: and then the plague hit and other things overcame my mind.

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Speaker 1: We'll get back to it one of these days. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make it clear just kind of exactly

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Speaker 1: where Joe Biden himself is within this horrible thing that

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Speaker 1: killed a shipload of people, um, because I think that's important.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to quote from an article in the

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Speaker 1: intercept on Joe Biden's foreign Paul See, and this is

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Speaker 1: about Plan Colombia. Biden championed the legislation as member of

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Speaker 1: the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and in a way, the

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00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: plan was a continuation of the anti drug measures he'd

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Speaker 1: promoted throughout the nineteen eighties as a member of the

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee. Domestically, as a tough on crime senator, Biden

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Speaker 1: pushed for more policing, even criticizing Reagan for not locking

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Speaker 1: up enough people in Latin America. Efforts Biden backed played

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Speaker 1: out as whackamle strategies, with the d e A and

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Speaker 1: international partners chasing drug traffickers from run route to another,

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Speaker 1: but doing little decurb total production demand or the northward

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Speaker 1: flow of Drugs Plan Columbia only increased the emphasis on

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Speaker 1: a heavy handed, militarized response to the drug problem, pushing

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Speaker 1: production and trafficking roots from more isolated to more populated

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Speaker 1: parts of Columbia. As Stephen D. Cohen put it recently

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Speaker 1: in The Baffler, Planned Columbia was, in effect to global

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Speaker 1: South pacification, with the nine Crime Bill had been to

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Speaker 1: domestic policing. This past January, during a primary campaign stop,

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Speaker 1: Biden said to the Des Moines Register, I'm the guy

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Speaker 1: who put together Plan Colombia, which, given the legacy of

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Speaker 1: the plan, might sound like a confession, but was certainly

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Speaker 1: meant as a boast. Just in case you're wondering the

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Speaker 1: degree to which Joe Biden knows what was happening over there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he does that a lot in that. But he's laughing

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Speaker 1: about that, but lying about things and sort of taking

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Speaker 1: credit for things. It actually sucked, um and are bad.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he played a significant role in it, for sure. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: speaking of Joe Biden, mhm, are beautiful? Are beautiful new

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Speaker 1: uh Man President. So we talked a little bit earlier

652
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Speaker 1: about how perhaps going back to the normalcy of right

653
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Speaker 1: before Donald Trump was elected president, is maybe not the

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Speaker 1: smartest and safest thing to do in order to prevent

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Speaker 1: that from not happening again. Um. And this is there's

656
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Speaker 1: a lot of speculation out there on his moves, what

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do, um with his cabinet and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So some of this is great of salt. He has

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Speaker 1: put started put together a transition team. UM. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've been online hearing what people people on

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Speaker 1: the news are saying, to hearing what like, let's say,

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Speaker 1: John Kasick has to say about what the Democrats did.

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Speaker 1: Famed leftist John Kasick, I remember during the Portland uprising

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Speaker 1: when he flipped that cop car and threw a moolatov

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Speaker 1: into the Justice Center. Exactly. We need to we need

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Speaker 1: to thank John Kasik for everything he did to not

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Speaker 1: flip Ohio. Thank you, Thank you John. We need to

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Speaker 1: thank the Lincoln Project for all of their hard work

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Speaker 1: making sure that not of Republicans vote for Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: like they did in sixteen, but rather of Republicans vote

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Thank you. That's off to Mr Project

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Speaker 1: for all of their good help. Um. And so that

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Speaker 1: is expected. This is all expected stuff. The framing of

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Speaker 1: how actually like going to the right and getting those

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Speaker 1: Republicans is actually what helped. And your your Medicare for all,

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00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: your defund the police, all that stuff, that's what made

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Speaker 1: us almost lose. I don't even know how they're framing it.

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Speaker 1: It's nonsense. It's very frustrating because the seats that were

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Speaker 1: one in the House by Democrats UH largely D s

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Speaker 1: A or d s A style candidates, and the inside

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Speaker 1: plan is to purge all of that nonsense UM in

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Speaker 1: favor of this more respectable UM I guess Republican friendly

683
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: UH way of governing, which is not new to the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: One might posit that it had something to do with

685
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Speaker 1: arriving at Donald Trump. One might pose it that doing

686
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Speaker 1: that in general UM is maybe not what needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: When as Robert you were talking about earlier and what

688
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: Republicans are currently doing and what they did and what

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Speaker 1: they're trying to pretend to be. They're trying to pretend

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Speaker 1: to be respectable, respectable now and reasonable and Mr Biden,

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00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: he he loves eating it up. And so it's just

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Speaker 1: generally frustrating, even a John Assaf who will probably talk

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Speaker 1: about UM in the future as well, because because that

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Speaker 1: is like that is an important race because it's the

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Speaker 1: difference between um uh being able to do anything. But

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00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: he even to uh the interview with him today talking

697
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Speaker 1: about how like I don't want this, I don't I'm

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Speaker 1: against this, this, this, this, this and this and those

699
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Speaker 1: are like things like the Green New Deal, medicare for all, um,

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Speaker 1: all things that poll really high, UM, at least according

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Speaker 1: to exit polls in his state that he is running in. UM.

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Speaker 1: Exit poles are we you know, exapoles. They're early UM,

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Speaker 1: so don't take them at face value. Necessarily, Also, with

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Speaker 1: so much mail and voting, it's very hard to really

705
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Speaker 1: put too much stock into them. But these ideas are popular,

706
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Speaker 1: and shying away from them is how you don't invigorate

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Speaker 1: the base that you want to invigorate and get new

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Speaker 1: voters in. It's how you get from Republican of Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Just a few notes on Joe Biden's transition team coming up.

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Speaker 1: Some beautiful, beautiful Meg Whitman. Uh. Well so well, Meg Whitman,

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Speaker 1: we're thinking might be in the cabinet. So we're fingers

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Speaker 1: crossed there, UM Republican former CEO of Quimby, the famously

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Speaker 1: founder of Quimby. You know I could use a quippy

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Speaker 1: of just a quimby, just a Quimby to Quimby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just a Quimby, like the Biden administration will be a

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Speaker 1: nice little Quimby in between two fascist machines. Exactly, just

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Speaker 1: a Quimby of neoliberalism to usher in the new fascist regime.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited, you know. Yeah, yeah, they really thought that,

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Speaker 1: let's just just for a second, really thought that was

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Speaker 1: gonna be a thing, like people were gonna google Quimby

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Speaker 1: like and start using Yeah, I'm gonna get a Quimby.

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Speaker 1: I love watching h uh television and movies only on

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Speaker 1: my phone instincts. Put him in the cabinet, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: let's like, let's take that and put it into America.

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Speaker 1: She's got her finger on the pulse. It's it's wild

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Speaker 1: because it's also like that is that is the way

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Speaker 1: of thinking of Uh, Donald Trump was a businessman, Let's

728
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Speaker 1: put him in charge of the country. He was a

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Speaker 1: failed businessman, and it was a bad idea. And it's

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Speaker 1: just the same kind of like, well, yeah, let's get

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Speaker 1: the Quimby lady in there. It's so wild. An she's

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Speaker 1: a big donor, of course, I mean exactly money, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: You mean all of her Quimby quibbies, just a quimby

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Speaker 1: of dollars, a fistful of quimbies instead of instead of

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Speaker 1: like googling Quimby and making it into a term that way,

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Speaker 1: what if we stand tore him to Quimby? Oh wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to start using Quimby.

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Speaker 1: I got a real hard Quimby, and mynas has not

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Speaker 1: stopped leading. And it's the kind of quimby where like

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Speaker 1: you can't really sit down or stand up because you

741
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: got quimby so hard. You need you need, you need

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Speaker 1: gloves and disinfectant and yeah, oh yeah, because the Quimby

743
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Speaker 1: is going to get infected real bad when Quien. All right, boys,

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Speaker 1: I'm stepping in here. Okay, do you have do you

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Speaker 1: have more thoughts about quimbying or being quimpied? Are still

746
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: talking about this because it's very important for our nation

747
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Speaker 1: to hear. I do recognize that I started this tangent

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Speaker 1: that Cody wasn't going to talk about us at all,

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Speaker 1: and Cody prepared other things to say. I love talking

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Speaker 1: about Quimby. Okay, so thank you. Um No, it's it's

751
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: people like her. It's executives from Lift, Airbnb, Amazon, JP, Morgan, Chase,

752
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: Uber Visa, really really aggravating. Yes, it's extract incredibly aggravating

753
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: and incredibly expected. That's the that's the most frustrating part

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Speaker 1: is that like, yeah, of course that's going to happen necessarily,

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00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: just like relatives on that list. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: any we don't have. We don't have yet confirmation of

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00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Secretary of Education Hunter Biden. But fingers crossed, fingers crossed. Um,

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00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: and there's either yeah, either way. I think Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: is going to be the Secretary of Education even if

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Speaker 1: Trump somehow pulls out a win. You know what, steps

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Speaker 1: above Betsy DeVos fucking bitch ass No, because again, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Hunter Biden is absolutely a crack addict, absolutely

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Speaker 1: has used his father's name in order to make money.

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Speaker 1: Probably hires prostitutes, which is fine as long as they're

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Speaker 1: of age. Um. But I don't think that Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: actively hates children. Yeah, heiled it. He's good. He's he's

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00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: good actually for that position specifically. Yeah, keep it coming, Cody,

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Speaker 1: Let's do the do you wanna Let's do it? Just

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Speaker 1: one more Quimby of InFocus, just one more Quimby, one

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Speaker 1: more Quimby. Uh, and we've thought about a Quimby left.

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00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: We got Quimby left, then we'll tie it on in

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Speaker 1: that Quimby and then we'll quimby it through the postal service.

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Speaker 1: Someone tally up how many times we've said quit speaks

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Speaker 1: watched Quimby. Sorry, I mean speaking of the postal service though. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna keep happening. Um. One of the many,

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00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: one of the postal workers that has been talking about

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Speaker 1: how all these ballots have been fabricated and tampered with,

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00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: admitted that they were lying. It's a Project Veritas scoop.

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Speaker 1: Uh that he that they they're tampering and it's of

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Speaker 1: course once again the Washington Post specifically poking holes in

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00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: Project Veritas is bullshit. Um. Anyway, that turned out to

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Speaker 1: not be true, very big there, know, like every single

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00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: other scoop every single because they like the guy had

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Speaker 1: to get questioned and he would have gotten in legal

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Speaker 1: trouble if lied. That's how it happens. There's a quote

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Speaker 1: that this just came out. Yeah, this is from the

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Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee. Yeah, Um, breaking news. Erie Pennsylvania USPS

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Speaker 1: whistleblower completely recanted his allegations of a supervisor tampering with

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Speaker 1: Malan ballots after being questioned by investigators. According to i G,

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Speaker 1: here are the facts. Richard Hopkins Hopkins, as a USPS

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Speaker 1: employee Neary, Pennsylvania. He signed a sworn affidavit with allegations

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Speaker 1: of ballot tampering fraud and went public through Project Veritas.

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Speaker 1: The i G began investigating this week. IG investigators informed

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Speaker 1: committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but

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Speaker 1: that Hopkins recanted his allegations yesterday and did not explain

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Speaker 1: why he signed a false AFFI David m Okay why

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Speaker 1: I might know why? One example that they have for

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Speaker 1: all of their claims. Uh, No, there's there's more bullshit

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Speaker 1: out there. Um. This is just one of the beautiful

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Speaker 1: ones because it's Project Veritas once again, just like falling

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Speaker 1: flat on their ass with their lies and misrepresentation of

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00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: videos and things claims. Um, But they will stick around

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00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: forever because nothing matters. Um. Speaking of nothing mattering? Um.

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Speaker 1: Amy kloverschar is being considered by Joe Biden for Attorney General.

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Speaker 1: What what what again? What grains of salt? We don't know?

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Speaker 1: These are reports just horrifying. Um, oh my god, all

807
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Speaker 1: of us. It's terrible. It's going to be all over you.

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Speaker 1: It's like in this again, like God, he's gonna make

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Speaker 1: Beto the secretary of like this is I mean that

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Speaker 1: will be Buddha judge probably, I mean, what do you

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Speaker 1: want for me? It's like it was like the writing

812
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: was on the wall and fucking March they all consolidated

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00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: against together guy to get Joe Biden in the head.

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Speaker 1: And then and that was the deal. Name, that was

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Speaker 1: the deal. That was the deal. Just us, don't they

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Speaker 1: made the deal. I don't know what they made the deal.

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00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Sanders is apparently lobbying hard

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Speaker 1: to be Labor secretary, which would be the absolutely Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that ain't happening either. No, what do you bet yet? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, fingers crushed. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he wants us to swallow a clover chard. But

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Speaker 1: the thing, but the thing is, But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: and this is what democrats understand. It doesn't matter. We

824
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Speaker 1: will swallow anything they give us. We can't do a

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: fucking thing about it. I'll stop my foot, sir. There's

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Speaker 1: two restaurants in town. And one of them is we

827
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Speaker 1: will cut your genitals off and cook them in front

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Speaker 1: of you and then execute you and your children. And

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Speaker 1: the other is poop. Have some poop, And it's like, yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you love poop. Actually you love it. You eat it

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Speaker 1: every day because you got to eat something. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's the thing. Right. They got the

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Speaker 1: calls and then the next day the team was like

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Speaker 1: dropped out, Klobe dropped out. And then they got something

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Speaker 1: out of it. Maybe it was this, maybe it's something else.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be disappointed, they won't get anything, and Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders will be the president. But it's it's, uh, you know,

838
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: nothing matters. Remember when Amy Klobachar actually declined to prosecute

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Speaker 1: the police officer who killed George Floyd. Okay, oh, so

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Speaker 1: you know what I was gonna say. That's why I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's possible for her to be a g

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Speaker 1: Oh it's possible. I do think that people. I would

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Speaker 1: hope that people would like that. Every I mean, there

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Speaker 1: were people being like that's bullshit, But the majority of

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Speaker 1: the party and the people who whose opinions matter will

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Speaker 1: be like, hell yeah, clothes didn't my good feelings about

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Speaker 1: this week and have already gone away. But again again,

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Speaker 1: I like I prefaced this earlier and we don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: these are definitely all signals. We've been getting signals similar

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Speaker 1: to this for from the since the beginning of time. UM,

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Speaker 1: so maybe this won't be a thing that happens, but

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Speaker 1: they're definitely a conversation just happening where nothing matters, um,

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Speaker 1: nothing from I mean, like Kamala Harris on stage was like,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, you're a racist and you were racist to

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Speaker 1: me specifically, and then when she was asked about it,

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Speaker 1: she laughed about it. That was a debate. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Cola Harris dropped out first. She dropped out first, and

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Speaker 1: actual the vice president. It's all nothing matters. It's like,

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Speaker 1: because there's even a way for that to work that

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Speaker 1: would be like human and honorable, where Biden could have

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Speaker 1: been like, you know, I didn't think about things that

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Speaker 1: way until she explained them to me, and I really

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Speaker 1: respect that she was willing to show me the error

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Speaker 1: of my ways, and she can have been like I

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Speaker 1: absolutely mean what I said, But Joe has grown and like,

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Speaker 1: you know the fact that he picked me proves that

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Speaker 1: he's a man who's able to listen to but instead, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do the diet version of what Trump did with

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Speaker 1: four seasons. Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing because we are

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Speaker 1: all that I hate this all so much in the world.

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Speaker 1: I'm angry, and I think we should end the episode. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: I talk about anarchism a lot on these shows, um,

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Speaker 1: and the hardest thing for me has been, like, there's

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Speaker 1: a sizable chunk of of anarchists that I know who

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Speaker 1: are not electoralists and who do not vote and do

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Speaker 1: not think anyone else should. And it's because of this bullshit.

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Speaker 1: It's because they say, like, like the system is horror,

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Speaker 1: the plan Columbia Ship will keep happening no matter what,

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Speaker 1: and by perpetuating it in any way, you are a

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Speaker 1: part of this, like this this engine of terror. You're

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Speaker 1: part of holding up hierarchy, of holding up these unjust

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Speaker 1: power structures. And I am not someone who says you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't vote, because I do think it matters, and I

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Speaker 1: think there are vulnerable people who are going to be

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Speaker 1: less harmed under Biden. But the anarchists aren't wrong, just

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Speaker 1: because I don't agree with that aspect. In all measures,

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Speaker 1: they're not wrong because we should be just burning it

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Speaker 1: all doubt like on averall level we should be there

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Speaker 1: should be more things on fire than there are presently

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Speaker 1: until things are better. Um, of course I mean the

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Speaker 1: fires minecraft. Yeah, yeah, you get your you get your

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Speaker 1: flint and steel, and you just like you you click

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Speaker 1: on the on the on the block, it's on fire. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just it's very hard for me to get into

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Speaker 1: the state of mind that I've had to be in

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Speaker 1: this year where I'm analyzing politics as like the thing

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Speaker 1: that it is, as opposed to what I think it

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Speaker 1: should be in like trying to I just I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. It's bad. Well, also it's easy. It's easy

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Speaker 1: to say it's easiest thing in the world to be like, well,

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Speaker 1: obviously Donald Trump is bad and obviously he lives in

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Speaker 1: another reality. Um, that's easy. Uh. This is in a

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Speaker 1: way more frustrating because it's less obvious and more people

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Speaker 1: are not susceptible to understanding it. And so I think

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Speaker 1: what you're to Chuck Schumer, that's what you're saying. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, Congrats chucking around. Oh, I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: her to clap again. I mean, she keeps saying, she

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Speaker 1: keeps saying she's not going to, and then she keeps doing.

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Speaker 1: Of course does. She has power, and she's addicted to it,

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Speaker 1: and it has broken her as it breaks every single

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Speaker 1: person who gets and also terrified of actually executing that power,

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Speaker 1: incapable of effectively executing power, but needing to hold onto

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Speaker 1: it no matter what. Yeah, maybe we should have abolish power.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should. I'm going to use my power to

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Speaker 1: tell you, guys to a plug plug where people can

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Speaker 1: find you on the internet, because the episodes over my

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Speaker 1: back hurts. We gotta endless, dudes. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're deer pod. I gotta thank you so much. And

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Speaker 1: where do these things? And where can we find you? Katie?

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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Stole online and codes. Where can we find you?

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Speaker 1: Dr Mr Cody on Twitter dot com. All right, white

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Speaker 1: House dot gov is my my personal website. Have a

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