1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: morning everyone, and welcome to Morning Run. It is Tuesday, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: December tenth. I'm Amy Robot. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: And I'MTJ Holmes and on the run. This morning, they 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: got him. The gunman who killed the United Healthcare CEO 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: was caught in Pennsylvania thanks to a McDonald's employee. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Turns out the shooter is a former valedictorian and Ivy 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: League grad whose friend describes him as humble and kind. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Police believe though they are zeroing in on his motives. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Also this morning, anger and applause, different reactions in the 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: courtroom after a jury acquittal, and the subway chokehold killing 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: case that sparked national protests. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Dismissal or disclosure. Jay Z wants his accuser publicly identified 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and if not, says the whole case should be dismissed. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Making a statement without saying a word. Beyonce's mom's like 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: on social media had people wondering what she really thinks 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: about the accusations against her son in. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Law, and Matt Gates quit Congress, withdrew consideration as Attorney 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: General and is now headed to an anchor desk near you. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: And also this morning, we have lost a national treasure. 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Acclaimed poet Nikki Giovanni has died at the age of 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: eighty one, and we are going to honor her with 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: our quote of the day today that you don't want 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: to miss this. One's good any old time, but especially 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: in these current times. So looking forward to sharing that 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: with you. But we do begin our run though. In Altoona, Pennsylvania, 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: police have charged twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni with 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: second degree murder for the shooting death of United Healthcare 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson in New York last week. 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Mangioni was also charged with possession of a loaded firearm, 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: possession of a forged instrument, and criminal possession of a weapon. 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: That forged instrument is the fake New Jersey license. Police 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: say he used to check into the hostel on the 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Upper West Side the night before the murder. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: He also had a ghost gun in his possession that 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: police describe as consistent with the weapon used in the murder. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: Police believe it may have been made using a three 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: D printer. 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Mangioni was on a Greyhound bus traveling through Altoona when 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: he got off walked into a McDonald's restaurant, and that 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: is when a McDonald's employee recognized him from all those 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: images that were circulated by police over the past couple 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: of days and then notified authorities. 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: And Maggione also had a three page handwritten document the 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: police says speaks to his motivation and mindset. His writings 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: reportedly mentioned United Healthcare by name, saying and I quote 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: these parasites had it coming end quote. Also had something 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: that said, I do apologize for any strife and trauma, 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: but it had to be done. 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Police also recovered a mask that was consistent with what 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the suspect was seen wearing at the scene of the crime. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: And right now they believe Mangioni acted alone, but are 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: still working to trace all of his movements from New 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: York to Pennsylvania. Now. 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: United Health Group released a statement saying, our hope is 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: that today's apprehension brings some relief to Brian's family, friends, colleagues, 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: and the many others affected by this unspeakable tragedy. We 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: think law enforcement and will continue to work with them 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: on this investigation. Mangioni's arrest and murder charge happened on 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: the very day Thompson was buried in his home state 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: of Minnesota. 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: He will remain in custody in Pennsylvania while he awaits 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: extradition back to New York, which leads us further down 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: our run with more answers on just who this alleged 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: gunman is. 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, his last known address was in Honolulu, where he 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: was arrested last year for trespassing in a Hawaii state park. 68 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: He pleaded no contest, paid one hundred dollars fine. Other 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: than that, he seems to have a clean record, no 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: other arrests. 71 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: That's right. Emanngioni was born and raised in Maryland. He 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: was the valedictorian of his private high school in Baltimore. 73 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: The Gilman School put out a statement saying that Mangione's 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: suspected involvement in this case is deeply distressing news on 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: top of an already awful situation. Our hearts go out 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to everyone affected. Now. 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Mangioni comes from a prominent Baltimore family, whereas late grandfather 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: was a renowned really state developer who owned country clubs, 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: nursing homes, a radio station. Maggioni went on to become 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: an Ivy leaguer, graduating kum Laud from the University of 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania in twenty twenty, earning a bachelor's and master's degree 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: in engineering. 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Now. While he was at Penn a classmate Toll Reporters 84 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Mangioni belonged to their group of Ivy leaguer gamers who 85 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: played assassins in a game called among Us, where players 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: are secretly assigned to be killers in space. He then 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: worked as a data engineer for online car marketplace Truecar, Inc. 88 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: Up until last year. 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: And one of his high school classmates said that Maggioni 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: was an incredibly intelligent, humble, and kind person who was 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: a very bright guy with a bright future. However, a 92 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: Good Reads account that authorities believe belongs to Maggioni left 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: a four star review on Ted Kaczinski's Industrial Society and 94 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Its Future that is more commonly referred to as the 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: Unibomber Manifesto. 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: In addition to the four stars, his written review ends 97 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: with this now chillin quote, violence never solves anything is 98 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: a statement uttered by cowards and predators. After his arrest, 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: the Mangioni family released a statement through his cousin, who 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: happens to be a Maryland state delegate. His name is 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Nino Mangioni saying, quote, our family is shocked and devastated 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: by Luigi's arrest. We offer prayers to the family of 103 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Brian Thompson, and we ask people to pray for all involved. 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Two things that quote of his, and we want to 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: remind you all stick around for the bottom of our 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: morning run because we have a quote from Nikki Giovanni 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: that flies in the face and completely challenges this one, 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: suggesting that violence never solves anything as a statement uttered 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: by cowards and predators, that's pretty chilling to hear. 110 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to prefer our quote of the day 111 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: to the quote of a accused killer. 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: And we should also what are we going to do 113 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: with the McDonald's employee. There is a reward for helping 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: capture now, I think you've seen before, all of us. 115 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: There's some fine print. Usually they say a ten thousand 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: dollars or fifty whatever reward. I really hope they'd give 117 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: it right now to this employee. 118 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a sixty thousand dollars reward. I think 119 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: that's what it was up to. But it's not just 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: for information leading to the arrest. It also has to 121 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: lead to the conviction of the accused killer. So but 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: this employee went above and beyond. I mean, that's a 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: scary thing to have to say. I think this is 124 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: the guy they pick up the phone, call the police 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: and know that you're the one who's calling in authority. 126 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: So yes, we certainly hope that that employee get. 127 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Rewarding right now, is it the fine prant? Well, we 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: have to wait for the actual reviction. No, I did 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: my job and I helped you find the person you wanted. 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: Give me my money. It's in y'all's hands now to 131 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: convict him. Totally agree your issue, So please you all 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: send that check to that with Donald's employee. All right, 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: I want to continue the run now. With a controversial 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: verdict here in Manhattan, former US Marine sergeant Daniel Penny 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide after using 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: a choke hold to restrain a homeless man on a 137 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: New York City subway. 138 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: The victim, thirty year old Jordan Neely, had a history 139 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: of mental illness, and after the verdict was announced, his 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: father told reporters that the system is rigged, saying, quote, 141 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: come on, people, let's do something about this. The judge 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: had already dismissed a more serious charged against Penny, that 143 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: was manslaughter in the second degree. After jurors came back twice, 144 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: they were deadlocked deliberating on that charge for three days. 145 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: When prosecutors admitted, yes, Neelie came on the train. He 146 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: was loud, he was angry, even threatening in some of 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: his behavior as he shouted. He was hungry, thirsty, and 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: wanted to be sent back to jail. However, they told 149 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: jurors that Penny used deadly physical force as he grabbed 150 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: Neelie from behind with there his arm around his neck 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: for longer that was necessary. 152 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Penny choked Neely on the floor for nearly six minutes, 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: after the train had already pulled into the station and 154 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: after passengers had already left the car. Penny's lawyer argued 155 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: that his client held Neely until he knew he was 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: no longer a threat, and he said, quote what happened 157 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: May first, twenty twenty three was not a choke death. 158 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: He was controlling mister Neely's body, not choking him. 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 2: Now, this this killing made national headlines to divided people 160 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: who saw this as a black white issue. Neelie is 161 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: black and he was the victim of a white man 162 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: who may he call a white vigilante, and now here 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: we are not He's not being held responsible for Neeli's death. 164 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: Neelie's family attorney said after the verdict that for everyone 165 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: who's pissed off about this verdict, his words, he said, 166 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: I challenge you to go outside today and help one person. 167 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: That's how we beat the system. That's how we turn 168 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: this around by being there for one another. That is 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that that was powerful, but that was wonderful. 170 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. His father, Yeah, his father was so upset by 171 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: the verdict. The judge actually told him to leave the courtroom. 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, this is a father who lost his son. 173 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we're all human beings here. 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: So yes, to have that powerful statement by the attorney, 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was beautiful. It gave me chills to 176 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: hear it, because, yes, this is a divisive issue and 177 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: there are no winners in this moment. 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Example that many would point to is a lack of 179 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: value put on a black life. This is a young 180 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: man who clearly has some struggles. Fine, someone arguably killed him. 181 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: No one though, is being held responsible for the death. 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: Though this continues that theme, but well done by the attorney. 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. Next up on a run, 184 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: jay Z wants his accuser publicly identified and has asked 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: a judge to force her to reveal herself or dismiss 186 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: the case altogether. Now, this woman has only been identified 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: as Jane Doe when she's accused Jay along with Sean 188 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Diddy Combs, of drugging her and then taking turns assaulting 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: her at an MTV Music Video Awards after party back 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand. So she was allegedly thirteen at the time. 191 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: And the accuser are also said another unidentified female celebrity 192 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: stood by and watched the assault happen on This particular 193 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: lawsuit was originally filed in October and only named Sean 194 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: Combs as a defendant, but it was updated Sunday refile 195 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: to include jay Z, whose real name is Sean Carter. 196 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Jay Z strongly defended himself in a link the first 197 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: person statement against the allegations yesterday, calling them heinous and idiotic. 198 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: So in this new filing yesterday, jays attorney says, quote 199 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: fair is fair, and he wrote this, mister Carter deserves 200 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: to know the identity of the person who was effectively 201 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: accusing him in sensationalized publicity hunting fashion of criminal conduct, 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: demanding massive financial compensation, and tarnishing a reputation earned over decades. 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: Jay Z's attorney cited previous Sean Combe's accusers who have 204 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: been forced to reveal their identities because courts ruled their 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: cases did not meet the criteria for proceeding anonymously. Now 206 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: we have no word on when a judge might rule 207 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: in this motion by Jay Z. 208 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Now we've talked about this because in criminal cases, of course, 209 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that victims feel comfortable and 210 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: safe coming forward making accusations. And I understand the reason 211 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: for anonymity in that. But when you're bringing a civil 212 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: case that you are clearly seeking financial compensation for, I 213 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's a wrong thing to ask, Hey, if 214 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: you're going to put my name out there for a 215 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: financial game, why can't you actually stand behind your accusations 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: in the civil proceedings. It's different than a criminal situation. 217 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: What you just cited is exactly what courts have said 218 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: in some of these cases that some of these folks 219 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: who are suing Diddy, even you don't have enough of 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: a case necessarily. That's so strong that warns it. So 221 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: if you just want to throw out loose allegations and 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: throw this out and ruin someone's entire reputation, you're going 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: to have to publicly stand. 224 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: By for a financial game. Yes, yes, I have to 225 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: agree with that all right. For his part, jay Z 226 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: had a very public outing with his family last night. 227 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: So he along with his wife Beyonce his daughter Blue Ivy, 228 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: were on the red carpet for the premiere of Mufasa. 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: Beyonce and Blue Ivy both have starring roles in the movie, 230 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: and so it was a huge show of support without 231 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: really even having to say anything. 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: It's kind of this guy is notoriously famously doesn't do press. 233 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: Jay Z just doesn't, doesn't have to, doesn't indeed just 234 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: does not go out there and do press. To see 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: that lengthy statement from him yesterday in his own words, 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: I haven't heard him say that much in years. And 237 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: then to come out he smiled. They were smiling, just 238 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: like the. 239 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Smiling No, but Beyonce and flu Ivy were smiling smiling 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: hip hop No, I don't know, he rarely smiles. 241 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: I should have say, but it was to your point 242 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: without saying a word. Now, someone else who was with 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: them in the family outing was Beyonce's mom, and she 244 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: had everybody talking. And this was a story you said 245 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: had to get in the run. Now you were fascinated by. 246 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: Now she was on the red carpet last night with everybody. 247 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: But this was all after her verified Instagram account yesterday 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: she had seemed to like an Instagram post from ABC 249 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: seven Chicago that detailed the allegations against her son in law. Yes, 250 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: it looked like Tina Knowles, Beyonce's mom, liked a post 251 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: about her son in law jay Z's accusations. Tina Knowles 252 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: now says she got hacked. 253 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: That's right. So hours after her alleged like Nole's posted 254 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I was hacked. As you all know, I 255 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: do not play about my family. So if you see 256 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: something uncharacteristic of me, just know that it's not me. 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: And she captioned this post, please stop playing with me. 258 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: No weapon formed against my family shall prosper quoting a 259 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Bible verse there. 260 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: It wasn't incredible, Like you said, they didn't have to 261 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: say anything, but given the day jay Z had on Monday, 262 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: these allegations are horrific. Horrific and to see the whole 263 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: family like we rarely. 264 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: See this standing there with all those reporters, all those 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: cameras flash, miling. 266 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Big like a proud papa. I mean, hey, and so 267 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: is this a part of a grandeur strategy or a 268 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: plan or I'm sure they would have done that anyway. 269 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: It would have been worse if he hadn't showed up. Obviously, 270 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: that is. 271 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: That, And maybe that's the point. Maybe that's the point. 272 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: All right, folks, stay with us here on this Morning Ron. 273 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Matt Gates is teaching us all a lesson and how 274 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: to do a career pivot. Welcome back. We will continue 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: our Morning Ron on this Tuesday with former Florida Congressman 276 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Matt Gates. He is pivoting now to his third potential 277 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: career path. In a matter of weeks, he's expected to 278 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: announce he's joining One America News Network. This would be 279 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: a huge win for this network. It's a far right network. 280 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: They don't have necessarily a big name roster at this point. 281 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: That's right. The network has become one of the more 282 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: extreme pro Trump news outlets and has had to direct 283 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: its fans in recent years to stream the network online 284 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: because It was dropped by DirecTV back in twenty twenty two, 285 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and then other major distributors have been let's say, reluctant 286 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: to carry its programming. 287 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: Gates had hinted that he was going to have a 288 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: new gig. He had an interview earlier after he withdrew 289 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: his name from consideration for Attorney General. He announced he 290 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: would not be returning to Congress either after winning re election, 291 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: So he could have gone back to Congress, he said, 292 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: though I'm still going to be in the fight, it 293 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: is going to be from a different new perch. 294 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: The network is known for giving airtime to conspiracy theories 295 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: that support Trump. They even worked with Russian operatives on 296 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: a documentary during Trump's first impeachment back in twenty nineteen, 297 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and Gates retreated from political life after bipartisan pressure and 298 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the possible release of a House Ethics Committee report detailing 299 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: a three year investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct and 300 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: illicit drug use by Gates. 301 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I stopped and went back and reread which you said 302 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: that they worked with Russian operatives on a documentary. 303 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Yep. And I went back and checked that because that 304 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: also really shocked me a little bit, just to be frank. 305 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: It will remind you that Gates says all allegations, and 306 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: so far Republican Committee members have continued to vote against 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: releasing that report to the public. Now that Gates is 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: no longer a member of Congress. But to your point, 309 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: a lot of we go from this career or that 310 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: career in a matter of might take years. He's hit three. 311 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Pretty big one in like three weeks. 312 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Right Congress to a potential cabinet member. It's now a 313 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: news anchor on a place that does documentaries with Russian operatives. 314 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: It's fascinating, it is all right. 315 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: And the final leg of our run kind of sank 316 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: down in the seat a little bit upon getting this 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: news that renowned poet and absolute national treasure Nikki Giovanni 318 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: has died at the age of eighty one. 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Giovanni died peacefully yesterday with her lifelong partner Virginia by 320 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: her side, according to a statement release by one of 321 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: her good friends. Giovanni, you may remember, rose to prominence 322 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: during the civil rights movement, publishing her first book of 323 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: poetry back in nineteen sixty eight, and quickly put herself 324 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: on the map for a career that would lead to 325 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: her becoming a black arts movement icon well. 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: She was born in Tennessee, raised in Ohio, attended Fisk 327 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: University in Nashville, and eventually joined the faculty at Virginia Tech, 328 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: where she taught for thirty years before retiring in twenty 329 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: twenty two. And she really put a stamp on her 330 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: time at the school. After the mass shooting there in 331 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, in which thirty two people were ill. 332 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: She rallied the student body with a rousing original piece 333 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: that she delivered at a convocation to memorialize the victims, 334 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: in which she repeated that phrase, and we've heard it 335 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: so much over the years, we are Virginia Tech, and 336 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: it became a rallying cry. If you haven't seen it, 337 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: we urge you to look it up today in honor 338 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: of her and take a listen. 339 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw me get up a 340 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: short time ago, quietly and I walk into the bathroom. 341 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: I got a tissue to get. I listened to it. 342 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: You just can't help but get tears in your eyes. 343 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: You just get chill. She rallied this whole student body 344 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: at a time that they really really needed, and the 345 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: way she did it and her little. She's kind of 346 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: a little bitty thing. She hired these little short, cropped 347 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: hairstyles she always wore, but she just looked powerful even 348 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: in that, even in that frame. And one line from 349 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: that particular speech, this is why you know. I love quotes. 350 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: But people are so the poets, this is what they do. 351 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: We are strong enough to stand tall, tearlessly. We are 352 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: brave enough to bend to cry, and sad enough to 353 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: know we must laugh again. 354 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Like good Lord, how could I have chills from head 355 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: to toe? 356 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: That's what she stole told a student body that was 357 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: suffering from thirty two of their friends and colleagues being 358 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: gunned down. Now throughout her time at Tech, she actually 359 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm adding this note about the shooter, but she was 360 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: so afraid of him. She complained and said she wanted 361 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: him removed from her class, like there were enough signs. 362 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: But we always say there's signs that are missed. But 363 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: she had complained about that shooter that scared her enough, 364 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: I will not teach him. 365 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: And that reminds me of a quote from Maya Angelou 366 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: who said, when people show you who they are, believe them. 367 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: Wow, it's not But that was she really did put 368 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: a stamp on her time through all that tragedy. But 369 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: she retired from TIE a couple years ago. She kept working. 370 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: She actually won an Emmy this year for Documentary Filmmaking 371 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: for her film Going to Mars, the Nikki g Money Project. Wow. 372 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: And she has a final book that is scheduled to 373 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: still be released sometime next year posthumously. Now, but we 374 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: get to continue to hear and read the wisdom from 375 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: this incredibly wise woman. And just in case you were 376 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: wondering how she passed, the New York Times is reporting 377 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: it was from complications from lung cancer. 378 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, a national treasure eighty one years old. But 379 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: what a life lived. And we mentioned earlier there was 380 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: a quote of the day that we were going to 381 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: include that that is from her, and I believe she 382 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: told this to NPR. I think they reported she gave 383 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: this to them several years ago. But it is a 384 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: good one, and think about it as you go about 385 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: your day. 386 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: That's right. Killing is a lack of creation, it is 387 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: a lack of imagination. It's a lack of understanding who 388 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: you are and your place in the world. Life is 389 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: an interesting and a good idea. 390 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: That's why they're poets, right. 391 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Isn't that such an incredible contrast to what we heard 392 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: from this alleged killer from New York City and implying 393 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: somehow that choosing peace is cowardice, that it flies in 394 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: the face of what you hear from this incredible woman. 395 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: That's wonderful. So to take that with you as a 396 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: reminder we can use it every day, but certainly now 397 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: that killing is a lack of creation, it's a lack 398 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: of imagination, it's a lack of understanding who you are 399 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: in your place in the world. Life is an interesting 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: and a good idea. So with that, folks, enjoy your Tuesday. 401 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: We always appreciate you going along or run with us. 402 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: On TEJ and I'm Amy Robot. Have a wonderful day.