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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Draft shoe presented by Kreshtron. I

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Speaker 1: am John Schmelt joined by the center in the center

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Speaker 1: of our setup. Didn't do that on purpose, but it works.

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Speaker 1: He's Sean O'Hara Paul Deatino playing left guard over there,

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Speaker 1: and that means I'm your right guard.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Richie Chris, I got sneaking right here.

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Speaker 1: I am probably going to say more words during the

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Speaker 1: show than I are Christny say to me in the

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Speaker 1: eight years he was here.

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Speaker 3: So smelkin' dots. I like it. I like my guards

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Speaker 3: right now. I feel very protected.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have selected with their second round pick at

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Speaker 1: number forty seven overall safety Tyler Neuban out of Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: a lot of college experience. He was at Minnesota for

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Speaker 1: five years, started over that time. Count them, folks, forty two. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I miscounted forty three games for Minnesota over that time.

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Speaker 1: In his career, there thirteen interceptions, including five last year,

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Speaker 1: twenty four passes defended.

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Speaker 4: A very very smart player.

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Speaker 1: Show and most importantly, we'll get Paul's breakdown of the

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Speaker 1: player as well. But y'all on this fill is in

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Speaker 1: need with Xavier McKinney leaving in for agency this offseason.

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Speaker 1: They brought in Jalen Mills, a veteran safety, but they

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Speaker 1: needed somebody that was smart and trustworthy that could be

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Speaker 1: that split safety in defensive coordinator Shane Bowen system, and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Nuban checks all those boxes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely avoid by Xavier McKinney, you know, not just

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Speaker 3: the player, but the versatility that he had. I think

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Speaker 3: that's something that they were really drawn to with Tyler Neuban. Look,

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Speaker 3: he went to Minnesota as a corner and kind of

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Speaker 3: morphed into a safety. But you mentioned the ability for

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Speaker 3: different coverage, dual safety, single high. He did it all.

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Speaker 3: And how about like the fact that we got another

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Speaker 3: Gopher so he teams up with John Michael schmitzegain, Right,

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Speaker 3: you got a teammate, so we got the center of

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Speaker 3: the defense. The Gophers right now are are strong right

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Speaker 3: now for the Giants. I think with Nuban, you know,

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Speaker 3: when you look at obviously Shane Bowen, the new defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a different it's gonna be I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be as much safety involved from

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Speaker 3: a blitzing standpoint like we had last year, the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years with wing Martindale, So that scheme is

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Speaker 3: gonna fit Nuban a lot better. But I like a

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Speaker 3: safety that used to play corner because a lot like

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Speaker 3: I played center, but I played left tackle. I also

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Speaker 3: played guard. That helped me be a better center because

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Speaker 3: I knew what do guard struggle with, what are the

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Speaker 3: tough blocks, who needs help on what play? So as

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Speaker 3: a safety, you understand and coverages and based on what

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Speaker 3: team you're playing, what receivers are going against, who needs

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Speaker 3: the help, and how do I help My corner is

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Speaker 3: the best. So I think that's another feather in his cap,

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Speaker 3: just kind of looking at some of his stats too,

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Speaker 3: no penalties. Like the one thing that you look at

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Speaker 3: with guys in college is as a corner, as a safety,

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Speaker 3: do they struggle when they are in coverage? And a

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Speaker 3: lot of times guys just you know, it's such a

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Speaker 3: bad habit to break. It's so tough to break the habit.

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Speaker 3: But if you're a grabby guy, you're a handsy guy,

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Speaker 3: and you have a lot of puns in college, that's

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Speaker 3: there's one little kudos to Numanuh, not a lot of

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Speaker 5: Paul, What did you see from him when you watched

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Speaker 5: him on tape?

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Speaker 4: A very smart player, really good with his reads, his

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Speaker 4: ball skills. You mentioned he started out as a corner,

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Speaker 4: which is where the ball skills come from. Very good

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Speaker 4: rapper in terms of tackling. You're not going to get

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Speaker 4: away from him too much.

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Speaker 5: Well, I thought you makee Christmas presents, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Now, well, he's a president for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even talking about like a rapper.

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Speaker 4: What I hit the I'll take him to the ground.

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Speaker 4: I wrote that down you know, Agnecticut, Paul. Okay, Actually

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 3: He got a hello. I think you should only talk

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Speaker 4: Now obviously, uh, you know, not not the fastest of

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Speaker 4: guys foot, but he makes up for it in intelligence. Now.

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Speaker 4: I talked to him at the Combine and here's some

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Speaker 4: of the things I wrote. First of all, he was

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Speaker 4: rehabbing at the Combine after meniscus surgery, so that may

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Speaker 4: But seemed like he was going to be cleared for camp.

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Speaker 4: He said that Edgewn Winfield, the former Michigan Gopher, it

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Speaker 4: by which all Gopher's defensive backs want to play. It's

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Speaker 4: all about intensity and passion. He said, you let the

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Speaker 4: play come to me, and if I do my job,

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Speaker 4: then I don't have to worry about closing to the

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Speaker 4: He talked about his intelligence. He says, I want to

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Speaker 4: get into the offensive coordinator's mind. He said, you can't

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Speaker 4: take a playoff, and if you're not playing physical, then

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Speaker 4: you're not playing at all.

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Speaker 1: You're watching the Giants Draft Show presented by Kreshtron. The

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Speaker 1: Giants select Tyler Nuban with the forty seventh pick in

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Speaker 1: the seventh round in the second round.

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Speaker 4: Part of me the forty.

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Speaker 1: Seventh pick, we are going to be live after the Giants'

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Speaker 1: third round pick as well, though the way it's going

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Speaker 1: he might just end up staying on.

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Speaker 5: We've had a very three picks off the boards since.

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Speaker 1: The Giants pick Tyler Newban Mason's to the Jaguars, Chris

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Speaker 1: Jenkins to the Bengals, and now the Commanders pickers already

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Speaker 1: in at pick number fifty. Giants next pick comes your

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Speaker 1: way of pick number seventy Bowl and I watched the

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Speaker 1: tape of Newman. They played a lot of single high

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Speaker 1: at Minnesota. Again, I'm not sure you want him to

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Speaker 1: do that in the pros. He only ran that four

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Speaker 1: or five nine in this Pro Day. Maybe some of

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Speaker 1: that to do with the fact that he was coming

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Speaker 1: off that knee surgery. But Giants, if Shane Bowen does

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Speaker 1: what he did in Tennessee, is going to play a

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Speaker 1: lot of split safety where you need guys to be

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Speaker 1: able to play the run. He can do that, play

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Speaker 1: the pass, he can do that. And the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I wrote down is that really great instincts.

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Speaker 4: He reads the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He anticipates routes really well, which is what you want

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Speaker 1: out of that high safety. One of the reasons he's

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Speaker 1: able to get those thirteen career interceptions, including twelve over

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Speaker 1: the last three years. So I think he's a really

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Speaker 1: smart player. You want that quarterback at the secondary. I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to fit that bill very very very well,

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Speaker 1: and you want that smart player.

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Speaker 4: He's a little older. He's going to be twenty three

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Speaker 1: Just for comparison, Molieu Nighbors, a Giants first round pick,

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Speaker 1: hasn't even turched twenty one yet, so there's about two

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Speaker 4: Players, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: You want to plug him in, you want to play

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Speaker 1: him right away, and he's a very very good player.

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Speaker 1: Two one nine, three nine four five one three two

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Speaker 1: Seelan might have to pop out at some point.

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Speaker 5: Don't be afraid. Everything's okay. He's going to try to

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Speaker 5: talk to Tyler Nuban.

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Speaker 1: That interview is going to go up on the Giants' website,

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Speaker 1: Giants app and all that stuff. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: there is a chance right now that on Giants dot

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Speaker 1: com the video player is not working, so it is

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Speaker 1: streaming though on the Giants app, Giants YouTube, and the

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Speaker 1: Giants TV app, So if you have any issues, make

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Speaker 1: sure you go tune into one of those other devices

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Speaker 1: so you could check out the show that way. Any

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Speaker 1: other points on Nuban, Guys, before we get to the

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Speaker 3: I'll just piggyback real quick on what Paul was saying

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Speaker 3: and kind of you touched on it too, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Xavier McKinney and filling that void. Xavier

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Speaker 3: McKinney was a very talented and athletic safety, but I

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Speaker 3: get the feeling that Nuban is much more of a

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Speaker 3: physical presence. And as we look at this Giants defense,

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Speaker 3: they are taking on a different identity. Any time you

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Speaker 3: bring in a new defensive coordinator, the scheme is a

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Speaker 3: little different, but the mindset is different as well. And

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Speaker 3: just from talking to Shane Bowen, you know, violence is

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Speaker 3: kind of his thing, like he wants a very aggressive defense.

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Speaker 4: And I think that all feel to be clear. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: look like he told you that in the Cadillac. Didn't

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Speaker 3: We did a drive along and people kind of got

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Speaker 3: We were like, whoa violent guys. Football is a violent game.

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Speaker 3: It's a collision like soccer is a contact sport. Football

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Speaker 3: is a collision sport, so you need violence. It's controlled violence.

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Speaker 3: But I think when you have a guy like Nubin

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Speaker 3: he's he's a physical dude at two hundred five pounds, Like,

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Speaker 3: I think he's one of those safeties that is going

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Speaker 3: to want to come downhill. But you mentioned it, like

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Speaker 3: let the plays come to you. The one thing that

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Speaker 3: you never want to have as a defensive coordinator is

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Speaker 3: a safety that's just, you know, that's trigger happy, like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: And a guy that's just you know, getting his nose

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Speaker 3: So I think that's a good quality to have as

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Speaker 3: feel like, man, I've got to dash down there and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden open up the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Mike Sanser still well, corner that

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Speaker 1: I really like just went to the commanders.

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Speaker 4: So that for me, at least.

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Speaker 3: Now was our conversation. We were talking to commanders. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go corner, We're gonna go safety. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a need there for both spots. But the first safety,

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Speaker 3: like we were kind of talking about in the Cafteria John,

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Speaker 3: when you're doing a fantasy draft, a snake draft with

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Speaker 3: your friends and all of a sudden there's a run

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Speaker 3: on a position, you kind of turn right or turn

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Speaker 3: left and go to another position. So the Giants did that.

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Speaker 3: The first safety in the drafts taken off, Dane Jeremia

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Speaker 3: was he was his number one safety in this draft.

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Speaker 3: So kudos to the Giants for that. I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 3: circle back for their corner soon.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen picks, by the way, in the second round so far,

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Speaker 1: six defensive tackles, six corners, slash safeties, and then throw

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Speaker 1: on top of that three wide receivers. So after we

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Speaker 1: saw a very offensive heavy, historically offensive heavy. He want

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Speaker 1: a lot more defensive players. Fourteen off the board here

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Speaker 1: and they do only nine defensive players in ran round?

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Speaker 3: Was the fourteen straight offensive picks?

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Speaker 4: Yes, to start the draft? That is strict.

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Speaker 1: Is unbelievable. All right, let's get to the phones. Two, one, nine, nine,

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Speaker 1: five three. PJ in Virginia. You're gonna leave this off today, PJ.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys? So I get one gripe and one question. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so real quick, my gripe. I don't understand what is

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Speaker 2: it with divisional foes trading with their divisional rival? Why

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Washington thinks they're helping themselves. They're not doing the trade

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Speaker 1: The same way Dallas and Philadelphia felt like they were

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if it's a good trade for you,

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Speaker 5: But that's just me. I know other people disagree with

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Speaker 3: And they got that pick from Chicago in the Montes

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Speaker 3: don't know, maybe that helps a little bit. Was that

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Speaker 3: the griper? Was that the question?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they just used one of those

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and that was my other question. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: what I know, like his forties, like four five nine

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Speaker 1: He ran a four or five nine in his pro day,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just wondering why didn't why not go cornerback?

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Speaker 6: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Sanscher still like, is he not an outside cornerback?

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that's the that's the problem. He's swats only.

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Speaker 1: And you know, so many corners got picked already. Max

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that run on corner is probably what makes them

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Speaker 4: It's entirely possible too, that the new defensive coordinator may

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Speaker 1: And I think when you play a lot of split

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Speaker 1: Unlike the wing system, Sean, when you're playing so much

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, no doubt about it, you know. And to

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Speaker 3: what they're going to do with Nuban and how they're

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Speaker 3: going to use him, you know. I mean, maybe they

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Speaker 3: plays some other positions. I know he's got some versatility too.

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Speaker 1: Steelers select center Zach Fraser out of West Virginia.

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Speaker 4: So before like my guy, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers just walked away from this draft with Troyano

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Speaker 3: Fraser is he's pretty body bag. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 3: That dude 'samller and.

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Speaker 1: Za's They just got two very good offensive linemen they're

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Speaker 3: To and they got Roderick Roderick Jones last year. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're loading up. Russell Wilson might not have to throw.

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Speaker 5: No, Nanja Harris is going to get a lot of carries.

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Speaker 1: And Jaylen Warren as well, So make sure you keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on that all. Right, back to the phones

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Speaker 1: two on one nine three nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania next time, line three. Joe,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Uh? First, I want to say very happy with that

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Speaker 7: first pick of ours. You know, he just he looks great.

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Speaker 7: You know, do you know did he ever have any injuries?

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Speaker 7: I know how Beckham he got me all the time

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Speaker 5: Do you know he had a shoulder as a freshman

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Speaker 5: according to some of the notes I've I've read, But

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Speaker 5: other than that, he's been clean and he made it

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Speaker 5: very clear that he's a guy that's going to play

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this past September he had left shoulder injury. But

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Speaker 4: he's over that the Giants medical staff went through thoroughly,

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Speaker 4: uh cleared him, and I know that they were very

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Speaker 4: okay with it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and this safety, the safety we got he looks

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Speaker 7: like what I'm hear. And he's a ball hockey. He

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Speaker 7: had quite a few interceptions the way I understand. He

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thirteen in his career in college.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so's he's around there. And like the previous caller says,

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Speaker 7: Washington always lets the Eagles come up there. There's a

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Speaker 7: number of times right before the Giants that they always

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Speaker 7: let that happen. I can recall going back to Jason

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Speaker 7: Priere Paul. I think that happened. But we got Jason

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Speaker 7: Priere Paul and they took Brandon Graham. I believe there,

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Speaker 7: you know. So, but Washington does it all the time.

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Speaker 7: So whatever, go Giants. Ay, Indiana just beat me Milwaukee,

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Speaker 7: So there you go again.

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Speaker 5: Indiana goes up to one in the first round of

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Speaker 5: the US how about that? And I'll remember, no, you're honest,

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Speaker 5: which makes a difference there. James and Georgia Europe next, Hey.

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Speaker 8: James, Hey, what's going on? Happy Draft day?

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Speaker 9: Continuation?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, what do you got.

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Speaker 8: Nothing much, I said, Sean, I like the pick. There

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Speaker 8: was a run on cornerback, so I was, you know,

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Speaker 8: I was texting or telling my brother earlier that we're

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Speaker 8: going to have our pick of either top running back

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Speaker 8: And I'm glad we went safety, just saying to absolutely

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Speaker 8: killing with that thinking, you know what I mean, Rather

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Speaker 8: than take the fifth or sixth ed rusher or cornerback

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Speaker 8: or you know what I mean, you take the best, uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, safety in the draft. It's a position in

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Speaker 8: the Still.

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Speaker 9: I'm not gonna go along.

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Speaker 8: I know third is coming up soon. A couple of

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Speaker 10: Do you think Mark Shawn.

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Speaker 2: Neeland will still be there?

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Speaker 8: And third he hasn't just went I do not think.

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Speaker 9: I got a couple of names, uh if you'll touch

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Speaker 9: on them, probably when you know, you stop saying calls

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Speaker 9: or whatever. But I got Kamara, Mohammed Kamara, the Tavian Sanders, uh, Pooney,

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Speaker 9: Camari Lasster and drains last long gone already Yeah tomorrow, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: you know of mind and U Canner Malachlin. I think

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Speaker 9: that's how you pronounce the name.

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Speaker 4: The tight end. Tight end, Yeah, the tight end. He'll

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Speaker 4: be around.

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Speaker 5: I think he's more of a Day three guy myself,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, he'll be around for sure.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 4: And to be honest like.

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Speaker 8: And that and that I was seeing in that round

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Speaker 6: That's why I act about that.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned running back just a moment ago earlier before

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Speaker 4: was our impression from the combine that the running backs

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Speaker 4: run of those, just like there was just a run

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Speaker 4: on corners, but they wouldn't probably start until the third round.

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Speaker 4: So there's really you know, we know that Brooks was

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Speaker 4: That's the only running back so far.

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Speaker 5: By the Panthers. The Giants will see him this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the only one that's gone of all the running backs,

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Speaker 4: So that cluster, I'm thinking still at some point in

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Speaker 1: Colt select eighty Mitchell good value for them middle of

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Speaker 1: the second round to go as a heck of a

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Speaker 1: group of weapons there. Man Michael Pittman, Junior, Josh downs, Ada,

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Speaker 1: Ni Mitchell, Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, who's basically going

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Speaker 4: That is a nice set of weapons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor could stay healthy. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a huge, huge guy to carry the way

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Speaker 3: looks good health wise, you know, like him coming back

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Speaker 3: from that shoulder, he should be fine.

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Speaker 4: Washington Commander's on the board now.

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Speaker 5: By the way, this is the second pick they got

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Speaker 5: from the Eagles in that swap, so we'll see where

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Speaker 3: And the Colts got a lot to the edge rusher defensively,

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Speaker 1: But now, I mean, look, the Colts do a good

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Speaker 1: two on one nine three five one three.

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Speaker 5: Wilson and Roxbury's up next night.

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Speaker 11: Wilson, Hey, hey, guys, how are hey listen?

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Speaker 12: Uh?

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Speaker 11: This was the right pick.

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Speaker 12: Now I can look forward to the season. You know

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Speaker 12: how I felt about us thrust in a quarterback and

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Speaker 12: you know, all this all this talk that the Giants

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Speaker 12: really wanted this guy, if they really wanted it, one

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Speaker 12: more first round pack wouldn't have made the difference, you

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Speaker 12: know what I mean. So I think that's a lot

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Speaker 12: they would have gotten it. So obviously it wasn't worth

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Speaker 12: But it is what it is, and we got we

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Speaker 12: got the guy that I think is going to help

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Speaker 12: You know how I feel about Daniel. But if Daniel

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Speaker 12: I can't give any more of this fans. I want

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Speaker 12: you one out of town, one on one, two one

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Speaker 12: you out of town? Any more fuel? So I don't know, man,

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Speaker 12: if you've got to read film differently, whatever, just you know,

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Speaker 12: just this is your last mulligan, I think. So you know,

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Speaker 12: we we have to make it work. So you know,

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Speaker 12: then that's it, you know, whatever now now I can

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Speaker 12: you know how Danny, you know how.

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Speaker 4: I I know, I know, Wilson. We're so glad for

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Speaker 4: you. You know, we really are welcome, welcome back.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Let me ask you, so, let me ask you something

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Speaker 12: was this the right pick? Like if you look now,

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Speaker 12: is it was this the right.

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Speaker 5: I mean neighbors are nuvid? What do you mean specifically,

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Speaker 5: neighbors are nuvid?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 8: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 12: In the first round, okay, it was this was this

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Speaker 12: if you were gonna take a guy with this, your

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Speaker 12: guy of.

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Speaker 1: The guys that were available, and Wilson appreciate the call

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Speaker 1: make good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah he was.

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Speaker 5: He was my guys. I mean he he was the

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Speaker 5: next highest guy on my board. Uh on my board.

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Speaker 1: Molik Neighbors was my fourth best player, so got him

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Speaker 1: at six.

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Speaker 4: Job, well done, Sean. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I like Neighbors. I think he brings something to

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Speaker 3: the table. Those three receivers, Marvin Harrison Junior, Neighbors and Odoons,

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Speaker 3: you know, they were kind of like in it was

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Speaker 3: like a three headed race. Really, those three guys but

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Speaker 3: Neighbors does things those other two guys can't. He's got

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Speaker 3: unbelievable acceleration. His explosive ability is I mean, it's far

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Speaker 3: superior than those other two guys. Now, Marvin Harrison, I mean,

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Speaker 3: obviously he's he was the gold standard in this draft

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Speaker 3: for receivers. But he can't do some of the things

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Speaker 3: that Neighbors can do. So I Neighbors. I like his

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Speaker 3: ability to the They used him a ton of like

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Speaker 3: jet sweeps, like you're gonna see him in all kinds

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Speaker 3: of different roles, like we can't get him the ball enough.

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Speaker 3: And he's one of those guys that once he touches

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Speaker 3: the ball, now that's when all of a sudden the

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Speaker 3: magic starts to happen. He can make guys miss, he

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Speaker 3: can run guys over. He's feisty, he's scrappy. The Giants

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Speaker 3: needed somebody like that. They needed somebody offensively that could

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Speaker 3: be a spark plug, that could they light the fire,

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Speaker 3: get everybody fired up, get everybody jazzed up, get the

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Speaker 3: fans going. So I like Neighbors from that capacity.

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Speaker 1: Sean, I believe Pearson's come to retrieve you. To talk

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Speaker 1: to mister Newman all right, let's go. You want to

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Speaker 1: leave him waiting, so go enjoy if I find out

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Speaker 1: about his interceptions, find out about him reading and all that,

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Speaker 1: and then what kind of defense he's comfortable, and come

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Speaker 1: back and report to us you're finding.

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Speaker 3: So will I'm gonna ask him about Antoine Winfield.

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Speaker 5: Perfect, say, we just get shown a lot of material

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Speaker 5: to talk to. Twern would have back. So, Paul, why

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Speaker 5: don't show.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna step out here, Yeah, taking all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: He'll be back as we wrap this show up and

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Speaker 1: get these picture going fast and furious.

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Speaker 4: They kind of see how really are cow? So when

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Speaker 4: do we close ranks here a little bit? Paul? All right,

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Speaker 4: we're going to leave this here.

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Speaker 1: And we'll start taking calls again at two on one

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Speaker 1: nine three, nine four five one three. Uh, let's go

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Speaker 1: Cliff in New York.

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Speaker 4: He's up next.

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Speaker 13: Hi, Cliff, Hey, guys with the Nuban pick. The first

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Speaker 13: thing I thought of was, you know, the last couple

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Speaker 13: of years, I've heard a lot about the versatility of

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Speaker 13: our existing defensive backs, you know, under coach Henderson and

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Speaker 13: him being very highly regarded as a coach, and these

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Speaker 13: guys are like I hear several of our dbs are

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Speaker 13: mentioned as both corner and safety. So I'm wondering, now

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Speaker 13: that we have Nuben, does that mean that some of

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Speaker 13: those guys are now more considered corners and does that

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Speaker 13: maybe strengthen the corner position as it is? You know

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Speaker 13: what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Which guys are you talking about specifically that you would consider?

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Speaker 13: Wow, I don't remember which ones were which tell you

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Speaker 13: the truth, because it seemed like it happened a lot

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Speaker 13: that they that they would say that so and so

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Speaker 13: is also considered a safety, or this guy is our

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Speaker 13: third safety, but he can also play corner. He's versatile.

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Speaker 13: So I don't know which ones to tell you, but

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Speaker 13: I I just know I've heard that a lot. So

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Speaker 13: I was hoping that the existing group may have some

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Speaker 13: some corners that can uh you know, they can be

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Speaker 13: more identified as corners now and help us. I just

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Speaker 13: thought i'd throw it out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the only hybrid guy for me, Paul,

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Speaker 5: I guess what would would be McLeod right, would he

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Speaker 5: be the hybrid guy that could play safety and corner.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else I would put. Well, the

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Speaker 4: Green Goblin too, who they just picked up from Jaylor milk. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think at his age he's a safety.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a safety too base. When I interviewed

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Speaker 4: him when he got here, he said, I'm the safety. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He basically said, I feel I.

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Speaker 1: Feel that unless I'm forgetting somebody, I don't know where else.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where else. You you're going there.

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Speaker 5: With that, and and and and Cliff Newban's a safety,

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Speaker 5: so he's not going to play corner.

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Speaker 13: So oh no, I want to know. I'm just hoping

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Speaker 13: that that that gave us more uh more of a.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, we're with you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. I just wonder that that's freed up some guys

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Speaker 13: to focus more on being corner.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I will say, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: to go to that particular theory, but I will say this,

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Speaker 4: when you look at the Giant safeties right now, and

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Speaker 4: even the corners to some degree, very intelligent secondary John,

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Speaker 4: very intelligent secondary. You know they may not be the

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Speaker 4: best athletes on the field. Okay, we know Belton is

542
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Speaker 4: not going to set any Olympic records or crush it

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Speaker 4: at the combine, but he makes plays when he's on

544
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Speaker 4: the field because he's instinctive, he's aware, he's smart. He

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Speaker 4: stays away from those mental mistakes that a lot of

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Speaker 4: guys will make. And that's what we're talking about with

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Speaker 4: Nuban coming out of Minnesota. He's that kind of player

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Speaker 4: and so, you know, to be frank with you, I

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Speaker 4: think intelligence is one of the things that the Giant

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Speaker 4: secondary is trying to be known for, because you know,

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Speaker 4: if you know what to do and you're in the

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Speaker 4: right spot to make plays, chances are you can raise

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Speaker 4: the bar.

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Speaker 1: the Giants' third round pick as well. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: us out. So the Washington Commanders with the fifty third

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Speaker 1: overall pick, this was the other pick they got from

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Speaker 1: the Eagles in that trade down, they select my second

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Speaker 1: favorite tight end in the draft, Ben Sinnott.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of an h BAC type move guy. He

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Speaker 5: reminds me of Kyle yust Check a little bit to

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Speaker 5: be quite honest with you in terms of the.

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Speaker 4: Way you can use him. So he goes to Washington.

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Speaker 1: I'm not particularly happy about that because he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: And then the Browns just took Michael Hall yet another

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. This a very athletic three technique out of

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Speaker 1: Ohio state. He stays home in the state of Ohio

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Speaker 1: and goes to the Cleveland Browns. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Taylor and Georgia. He's up next, Ty Taylor.

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Speaker 14: A great afternoon to y'all, really quick. I love the

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Speaker 14: pick obviously, could you do you guys really see him

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Speaker 14: because of the film breakdown more as a free safety

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Speaker 14: strong safety personally for me, I love Pinnock on the

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Speaker 14: field at all times. I honestly like Bellan's coming off

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Speaker 14: of the off the banks kind of as that third safety.

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Speaker 10: And then after that.

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Speaker 14: Second quick question, I'll take it off the air. What

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Speaker 14: do you kind of see us as a need in

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Speaker 14: positional value at three? Right now? I can I'm kind

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Speaker 14: of hoping the guard from Yukon is there. I doubt

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Speaker 14: it from there possibly running back. Other than that, I'll

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Speaker 14: take it off air. I appreciate it now.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Taylor, good call.

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Speaker 5: Cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback.

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Speaker 4: You just passed on on a bunch of corners in

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Speaker 4: this round.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe defensive tackle. Then I would get into the

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Speaker 1: the running back territory for me. Yeah, corner is the

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Speaker 1: biggest need to be right now, and it's a glaring one,

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Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they they went with the safety, and again maybe

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Speaker 4: that's what the scheme is going to call for. They

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Speaker 4: need some more depth at that spot. They just might

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Speaker 4: have thought he was that much bad. Maybe they did.

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Speaker 4: Maybe THEYD Hey, look, we knew what the combine that

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Speaker 4: there were folks who told us they thought Nuban could

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Speaker 4: be the best safety bullet got some votes too.

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Speaker 5: I mean General Daniel jeremal I had him in number

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Speaker 5: one honest safe exactly.

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Speaker 4: So I mean this is not a reach here, But

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Speaker 4: in terms of in terms of perceived need, corners seem

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Speaker 4: to be more thin. Okay, In terms of the running

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Speaker 4: back situation, John and I have both discussed this. I

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Speaker 4: think that the Giants need a power back to fill

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Speaker 4: in that other spot in this running back by committee.

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Speaker 4: I would want a big guy orderic estimate is my

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Speaker 4: guy from Notre Dame. Can you get him in the third?

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Speaker 4: I hope so, I was hoping to get him in

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Speaker 4: the fourth. But you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I would not use a pick on a running back

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Speaker 1: in round three. I just I think that's bigger needs elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: You know, you already have his starter in the building,

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Speaker 1: so I don't. I think that's a Day three pick

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Speaker 1: in my opinion. That's why I would attack that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I like estimate. I think he's my fourth running back.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. I really I

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Speaker 1: think if they draft them, might be very happy with it.

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Speaker 1: But I just with all the other needs, I would

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Speaker 1: save that till round four.

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Speaker 4: You know, the problem really comes down to here. You know,

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Speaker 4: the tight end spot is another issue, because again we

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Speaker 4: still don't know what's going on with Darren Waller. He

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Speaker 4: says he's working out. He told some reporters today at

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Speaker 4: a public appearance for a charity that he is indeed

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Speaker 4: doing all of his workouts as if he's going to

655
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: come back, but hasn't made a decision yet. Well, you

656
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: guys know how much I love Senate and unfortunately he's

657
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: already gone. So that's the end of that. But Stover

658
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: is not a bad tight end if you want to

659
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 4: keep looking in that spot.

660
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: In the next round, Patrick Paul goes to the Miami Dolphins.

661
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: The offensive tackle out of Houston, very tall, very rangy,

662
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: has some cleaning, has some things to clean up a

663
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: little bit in terms of fundamentals, but good, good player.

664
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Speaker 1: Cowboys on the clock here will keep an eye on that.

665
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: But for now, let's go back to the calls. Jason

666
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and new Haven's up next day.

667
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 10: Jason, Hey, what's up?

668
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 4: What's going on?

669
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Speaker 13: Good?

670
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 10: Good things for taking my call? Or I love the

671
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 10: draft so far. I know you guys have talked in

672
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 10: the past, and I've been a big opponent of especially

673
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 10: when it came to the three receivers, the top three

674
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 10: receivers in the draft. Part of it is like what

675
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 10: does day Ball and Kafka want yeh receiver? And I

676
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 10: never really thought Rome was the guy, even though he

677
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 10: was a clean prospect. And I don't think we was

678
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 10: ever going to get Harrison. I think he was if

679
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 10: he was dead, I mean, that would have been a

680
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 10: no brainer. But I think neighbors fits that day ball

681
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 10: Kaska separator. Kind of that Tyreek I call him Tyreek Hill, y'all,

682
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 10: but kind of that explosive athlete once he gets his

683
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 10: ball in his hands that we really haven't had since

684
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 10: you know, Odell, you know, since Odell left us.

685
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

686
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I love the pick.

687
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 10: Nuban was a great pick, too, low key. I kind

688
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 10: of like our safety group. We're young. But one thing

689
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 10: I've talked about with Belton, He's always run the ball,

690
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 10: and this kid, Nuban seems to always be around the ball.

691
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 10: I like Pinnock. He's you know, he's not a you know,

692
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 10: he's not a top five safety, but he's an up

693
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 10: and coming safety. And I'll take I'll take you one

694
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 10: more question. I got three players that I wanted you

695
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 10: guys to see, if you could let me know what

696
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 10: I'm looking for. Yeah, and the next Paul, I'm with you.

697
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 10: I would like a kind of a bigger back. My

698
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 10: eyes are on the young man from Wisconsin, Allen. Yeah,

699
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 10: twenty years old, clean, yep, and I like him. Another

700
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 10: guy I want to talk about is the defensive tackle

701
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 10: from Oregon Dorless. To me, he's a prototypical three technique,

702
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 10: which I think with Andre Patterson and Deck's next one

703
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 10: would be great. And then one more thing, John the

704
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 10: game yesterday, please explain to me why embiid was not

705
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 10: thrown out of that game, and I'll take it off

706
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 10: the airflas.

707
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you, Jason. I appreciate it.

708
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: And but by the way, I think both those players

709
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: are good fits for the type of players you're looking

710
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: for if you want a big back. Brian Allen fits

711
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm not as high as other people are. I've been

712
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: told I need to go back and watch his tape

713
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: from two years ago and three years ago before Wisconsin

714
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: changed their offensive system.

715
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: I haven't done that.

716
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I didn't love him in their spread offense this year.

717
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't think it fit his skill set. So

718
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Paul's higher than on him than I am. But he

719
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: likes estimate is a better player. Dorles, You're right, is

720
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: that three technique? He can also play a power end

721
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: if you need.

722
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: Too on running down. So I have a third round

723
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: great on him.

724
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: If he's there in the third round, I don't know

725
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 5: if he's gonna get there given all the defensive tackles

726
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: going off the board. He would be a good pick.

727
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: And yeah, Joel on Beech should.

728
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: Have been ejected from that game. Paul and I agree

729
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: on that.

730
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: Whole Yeah, for sure, and by the way, I should

731
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: bring it back.

732
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: We forgot to answer Taylor's first question about Newbin strong

733
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: safety of free safety.

734
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: Oh, these a strong for me. Well, he's part of

735
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: a three safety package though.

736
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: I think he's really good at reading quarterbacks in the

737
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: secondary though, and playing the ball.

738
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit afraid of the speed.

739
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Well then, but the problems that you're playing in the

740
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: line of scrimmag're just gonna have to cover slots.

741
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

742
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: I much prefer him, and that's why I remember it's

743
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: a split safety system, so you put him as a

744
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: split safety d play in zone defense.

745
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 5: I think that's the spot for him.

746
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: And in this system you want your safety's a bit interchangeable,

747
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: which is why I think it's important that Newban could

748
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: do both.

749
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: He can cover and he can play the run. So

750
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: I do think that's pretty important. I do want to

751
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: go back to what he said about dor List. I

752
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: wrote down four to three three four three technique, tremendous

753
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 4: position flexibility for him, Yeah, and I think that's what

754
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: makes him very intriguing, you know. Six three two eighty

755
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: five athletic motor pursuit, plays a little high, doesn't always

756
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: anchor as well as he should. But there's a lot

757
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 4: to like there. And again the position flexibility. We just

758
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 4: have not talked enough to this defensive coordinator to know

759
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: exactly what characteristics he's looking for in all of these

760
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: different positions.

761
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 5: Well, I know he wants to get a field and penetrate, so.

762
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: Who doesn't, right, But you know so it does leave

763
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: us a little bit hamstrong. But anyway, that yeah, I

764
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: do like dor lists and the guests that we have

765
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: on Big Blue Kickoff Live. Who did was on the

766
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: radio crew I believe of that school had really praised

767
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: him quite a bit.

768
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: So this draft is flying until the Cowboys got on

769
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: the clock. They've taken every single second of their seven

770
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: minutes here and the pick is just then. We'll have

771
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: that for you in just a second. In the meantime,

772
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: let's go to Brian in North Carolina. Brian, what's up?

773
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 14: Hello?

774
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 6: Gentlemen? How are you to see it?

775
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: Hello? Brian? How are you good?

776
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 6: A little bit of horse voice? So that's okay, mythologies

777
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 6: all right? So on your board, gentleman, tell me you

778
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 6: got corner. I'm gonna see you you got corner, the

779
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 6: defensive tackle, offensive line, in no particular order. What you see?

780
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 6: I saw some corners come off. If you can both,

781
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 6: you give me what you where you see the next

782
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: best pick in your opinion contextual to what offensive corner

783
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 6: defensive coordinat wants to do. Who would you go with

784
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: and eat any one of those particular?

785
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you mine first, Paul, do you

786
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: want to go position by position?

787
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: And then yeah, let's let's want to start with corner.

788
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: My two highest rated corners are Ronardo Green out of

789
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Florida State and Ennis rackstraw at of Missouri. And then

790
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: after that I have a little bit of a gap.

791
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: Then they have Andrew Phillips, DJ James and TJ.

792
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: Tampa. I like Racistraw and I like TJ. Tampa, and

793
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: I do like Phillips. I think all three of those

794
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: guys to me, I would be happy to get anyone.

795
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: Then defensive tackle, Oh Jenkins went to I did not

796
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 5: cross him off. Yeah, Chris Jenkins should have. So defensive

797
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: tackles got in very shallow, very quickly. Amazing Smith went

798
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: as well.

799
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: So the only second round, and this is around two

800
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: round three hybrid grade is Makai Wingle out of LSU,

801
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: who I really like is a three technique. Yes, I

802
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: have Brandon Dorris is a third round there, then Dwayne

803
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Carter out of Duke.

804
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: As a third slash fourth round there. So defensive tackle

805
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: has gotten thin very very quickly, Paul, I don't have

806
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: any other three techniques that I'm very happy with. H

807
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: Tyler Davis is a four to three defensive tackle out

808
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 4: of Clemson who I really liked. His power, he's get

809
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: off at the snap and his leverage. But I see

810
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: him as a four to three defensive tackle and that's

811
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: really not what the Giant's gonna do. They need a

812
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: three technique. Gabe Hall is a guy, but to me,

813
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: I have a fifth round grade on him. I don't know.

814
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: I'll go back to Dorless just a minute ago. I

815
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: could absolutely take Dorless if I was forced to be

816
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: taking a spot there. And what was the third position

817
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: you want that you want to know about?

818
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: Brian offensive line?

819
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: Offensive line?

820
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: And you know we'll also give your running back, dude,

821
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: just a heck of an offensive line. Cooper Beebe and

822
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Christian Haynes are two guards that I have second round grades. On,

823
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: so I like him, and then you go to the

824
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: third round. I got Dominic Pooney, who's kind of a

825
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: guard tackle hybrid. Isaiah Adams and Mason McCormick are my

826
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: third round guards, and then even I like Mahogany and

827
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Ziner after that as well. I think all those guys

828
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: are guys that could develop into starters.

829
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: I'd keep an eye on Rosing Garden Blake Fisher out

830
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: of Notre Dame. Those are tackles though. Yeah, well, he

831
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: said offensive line. I said, yeah, I'm not exactly enthralled

832
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: with the With the guards, there was a you know,

833
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 4: there's a sleeper guard. You want a sleeper guard. Don't

834
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: talk about like in the next couple of rounds, Deep

835
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: Leydon Robinson, Texas A and m Okay, there's a sleeper

836
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: guard for you deep third day, I like it. Sleeper

837
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: sleeper guy.

838
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 6: It's so based on what you're saying when I'm hearing it,

839
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 6: sounds like the most depth is still at the offensive line.

840
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 6: You mentioned line names is overall? Is that what you're saying? Though,

841
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 6: based on which wept what you like, there's more depth.

842
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 6: I want offensive lineman if we can get another one.

843
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 6: So that's where I'm going with that.

844
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate the call man.

845
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, look, I think I don't think

846
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: you've drafted another tackle in my opinion here, I would

847
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: lean more towards the guard spot. And if one of

848
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: those guys we talked about, I mean, I do think,

849
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I have about the same

850
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: a number of corners and offensive linemen in my next

851
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: two rounds, So I don't have much difference there between

852
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: the players.

853
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: So you know what the problem is here. And I'm

854
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: not trying to be funny, but you've already overstocked that

855
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: room with some medium priced free agent veterans. You have

856
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: the two young guys from North Carol line who have

857
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: been injured, okay In McKeithen and Joshua Azudu. And and

858
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: here's that. You got Stine. Ay, we talked about this.

859
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 4: You got Runyin, you got all these guys, You got Alminorum,

860
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: illumin Or. I'm really tired, folks, I don't mind telling

861
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: you that you got illumin Or who could play inside

862
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: to You're not sure exactly what they're gonna do with Neilolough.

863
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: We still think he's a tackle. But here's the thing.

864
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: Your drafting, any one of these guys later in this draft.

865
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: Are any of these guys for sure any better than

866
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: the Vets. You've already spent some money on, all the

867
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 4: two young kids who you've devoted time to, and they're

868
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 4: trying to come off of injury. See one of the

869
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: philosophies you have to have. At least it used to be.

870
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: Now it's a little bit different because of the salary

871
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: cap and stuff. But you were you wered go into

872
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: the draft and you'd say, listen, when I'm taking this

873
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: guy in the fourth round. In the fifth round is

874
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: where it starts to get shady. You would say, hey,

875
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: I look at that guy. Am I sure he's got

876
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: a legitimate chance to beat out his competition for a

877
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 4: spot on my fifty three? That used to be the

878
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: litmus test. I'm not so sure if I put that

879
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: litmus test to some of these deeper offensive linemen, John

880
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: that I can say that. And because the Giants are

881
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: very deep at that spot, they got bodies, They got

882
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: functional bodies. So I don't you know what I mind.

883
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind if they took another offensive lineman somewhere

884
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: in this draft, But I just don't know if they're

885
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: head and shoulders as a prospect going to make the

886
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: fifty three. Of course, the practice squad does change that

887
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: a bit now that it's expanded as much as it happens,

888
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: it does change it some, but you still got to

889
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 4: get the guy through correct. All right, Two more positions

890
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: is actually good.

891
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: There's a perfect show called to close the show beaus

892
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: we kind of went through our stack and who's left

893
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: a potential a third round pick, So it's actually worked well.

894
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: Only positions I want to hit Paul or tight end

895
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 4: because I do think that is kind of a.

896
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: Dart throw position. So not went Jatavian Sanders from Texas

897
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: still on the board.

898
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: More of a receiving tight end.

899
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: I have Johnny Wilson from Florida State on my tight

900
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: end stack instead of my wide receiver stack. And if

901
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: you're looking for a receiving tight end, I know he's

902
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: a fascinating player.

903
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: Round number very intriguing.

904
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: And then I have a bunch of fourth and fifth

905
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: round guys Kate Stover, Jared Wiley is more of a

906
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: receiving tight end. Tanner mcglock wann to call her mentioned

907
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: theo Johnson and then if you want to wait till

908
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: like round five or six on draft, an injury guy

909
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: that can develop into something.

910
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: Eric All out of Iowa.

911
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had Johnson, I got Stover, I got Wiley

912
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: as old guys. You know, later on if I couldn't

913
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: get said that I would, I would. I would like

914
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: to look at so you know, look, there's still guys

915
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: here that can help the giants at some of these

916
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: thin spots. If that's your bottom line question, the answer

917
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: is yes.

918
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 5: And then just real quick running backs. Paul I mentioned,

919
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: I don't have all my running backs are in the

920
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: third round. I don't have a second round running back.

921
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: So Trey Benson, Ray Davis, Audri, Guestime Marshaun, Lloyd, Blake Korum.

922
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: I like will Shipley out of Clemson more than most people.

923
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Jyalen Wright is the speedster out of Tennessee. If you

924
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: want a fast guy to be a change of pace guy,

925
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: those would be the top running backs on my board.

926
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: So that's a good seven guys that I could easily

927
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: see be worth third round picks.

928
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, est may Lloyd for me, you know, I wrestled.

929
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: I wrestled with Carson Steele out of UCLA because he's

930
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: a big guy. You didn't like Ray Davis. Huh, he's

931
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: like two fifteen. I was looking for a guy who's

932
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: going to be more of a big, power, sturdy back. See, well,

933
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: you know what it is. I'll be honest with you.

934
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: I don't believe it's Singletary. Even though he's the league

935
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: guy in the committee, I see him as more of

936
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: a smaller guy and not a pounder guy.

937
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: I should be pretty good at short yard I know

938
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 5: he historically.

939
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: I know he is, but I don't trust it. And

940
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: I would like to have a big, strong, physical pounder

941
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: to help the Giants in a for minuted offense goal

942
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: line situation, short yardage. I don't want to put that

943
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: all on Singletary.

944
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: I really don't fair enough, all right, folks. So those

945
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: are some of the guys left. The guy with the

946
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys selected Marshawn Neeland, by the way, the edge player

947
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: out of West Kentucky. Good plas. Oh yeah, really good player,

948
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: big guy. He can even slide into the three technique

949
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: on passing downs. He can set the edge, powerful edge rusher,

950
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: really tested well. Not a ton of production, but a

951
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: guy with a lot of good motor player. He's having

952
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: a lot of good traits. So Dallas lost a couple

953
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: of edge players in the offseason. He's kind of their

954
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: third or fourth guy. So we're gonna take a quick

955
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: break here because we're still about twelve picks before the

956
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: Giants go at seventy, and that's probably gonna be at

957
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: least forty minutes, maybe forty five minutes. And there's no

958
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: way we can stay on because I want Dom to

959
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: be able to go home tonight and not be here

960
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: at two am trying to post a two and a

961
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: half hour draft recap video.

962
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: How wasn't want to get in trouble with the NFL.

963
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: So we'll put those two things together and we'll take

964
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 4: a quick break.

965
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back when the Giants make their third round

966
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: pick on The Giants Draft Show presented by Kreshtrohn.

967
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you then.

968
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Giants Draft Show presented by creshtron,

969
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: John Schmelt, Sean O'Hara.

970
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: Paul Deatino. Back with you.

971
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: With the seventieth overall pick in the third round, the

972
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: Giants select cornerback Andrew fill Pillips out of the University

973
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. Phillips in his college career played four years

974
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: started for half of one all of his senior year

975
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: sixteen total starts. A guy that can play inside and outside.

976
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: He played about two thirds of his snaps outside as

977
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: a senior, played about a third of them inside, so

978
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: you can do a little bit of both. Ran a

979
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: four four eight forty yard dash at the combine. Tested

980
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: pretty good in terms of his jumps. Explosiveness was good,

981
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: his short shuttle and three cone was good on his

982
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: pro day. Guys, the Giants needed a cornerback. We talked

983
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: about this at the end of our show after round

984
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: number two, and they found the guy that is pretty flexible,

985
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: could play inside and out and.

986
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: Showed some pretty good cover skills at Kentucky Sean.

987
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have two enough corners, and we were

988
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: talking about that exact position before the Giants selected Tyler

989
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: Nuban the safety, and you know you could tell that

990
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: when the run on the corners went at the top

991
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: of that second round, Giants kind of shifted gears. But

992
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: now to get a corner and Andrew Phillips, he's a

993
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: physical guy. He's one of those guys that really likes

994
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: to win at the line of scrimmage. Jam receivers likes

995
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: to use his hands and it likes to use his

996
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: physical ability. But I think he's also shown that he

997
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: has really good recovery speed, really good recovery quickness. So

998
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: I've got some asset for him. The Kentucky guy, Wandelle Robinson,

999
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: the Kentucky guy. Right, Yep, we got another wildcat here.

1000
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: But I think for the Giants, no doubt about it.

1001
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: You've got to, you know, to have some more fresh legs,

1002
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: have some more competition in a corner. Looking in the

1003
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: NFL right now, you need three starting corners. And you

1004
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: mentioned it. He has played in there at the slot,

1005
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: so he has that experience. He played the nickel position

1006
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: against Tennessee this year. Uh pretty much played every snap

1007
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: in that game from the slot from that nickel position.

1008
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: So he has that ability. And I think it's a

1009
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: it's a nice pickup for the Giants because you know,

1010
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: look here this late in the third round. I think

1011
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: before the draft started, people thought Andrew Phillis might have

1012
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: been gone by now.

1013
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had him with I had him as a

1014
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: very top of the third round pick. I had him

1015
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: as my seventy fourth player. He got picked number seventy,

1016
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: so about in line, but a lot of people did think,

1017
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: like Dame Brugel, who does the Author's the Beast, one

1018
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: of the best draft guys that's out there. He swore

1019
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: heading into the draft that he was going to be

1020
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: a second round pick, that he thought teams were pretty

1021
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: high on him.

1022
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: Paul, Well, he did get some rising grades in mock

1023
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: drafts in recent times. I did, right. I really liked

1024
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: his quicks at the line, his reeds very physical player.

1025
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: To your point, Sean, when you talked about one of

1026
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: his hands, very physical player, does like to hit people.

1027
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 4: Can sometimes improve his technique a bit, but that's because

1028
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: remember red shirt junior and only spent two years as

1029
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: a starter. Okay, so he does, you know, have to

1030
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 4: have some more maturity going on, more experience as he grows,

1031
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: as he gets coached up. We talk about these guys

1032
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: all the time. Carl Bank says, you don't just add water. Okay,

1033
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: there's a reason the guy's coming into the NFL, and

1034
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: that is because he's got to get coached up. Well,

1035
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: this is a guy with Jerome Henderson coaching that secondary

1036
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: is someone who's going to probably really use that polish

1037
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: to his advantage.

1038
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, he's five eleven or five ten six

1039
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: eighths inches one hundred and ninety pounds, So he's not

1040
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world, which is why you know,

1041
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: some people do see him as more of a slot,

1042
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: but he played outside in Kentucky, did a nice job.

1043
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: He's a physical player, doesn't mind hitting. So he's a

1044
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: guy that I think can fit a lot of those spots.

1045
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: And you know, two aspects that Shane Bowen sid he

1046
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: needs out of his cornerbacks guys is that to be

1047
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: willing to tackle and they don't let guys get behind them.

1048
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: And the one thing that he did in that Kentucky's

1049
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: scheme was played a lot off zone coverage. He did

1050
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: not generally let guys get behind him, which in this

1051
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: system that the Giants are employing is very important.

1052
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the one thing that when you kind

1053
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: of look at at Drew Phillips not one interception in

1054
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: his collegiate career, So that's kind of one of those

1055
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: things that sada you think that at some point someway

1056
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: tips the ball, you get one of those. But he

1057
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: did have ten pass breakups, so he's there. He's making plays,

1058
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: just didn't have a almost kind of an opposite to

1059
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Tyler Neuman, who set a record at Minnesota for interceptions

1060
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: in a career. But I think when you look at

1061
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: that physical aspect of it, the toughness of it, I

1062
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: think also he had a great week down at the

1063
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, and the reviews from him coming out of

1064
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: there were that, man, this guy was physical, he was feisty.

1065
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you see guys go to those those

1066
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: bowl games and the practices, you know, they can kind

1067
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: of be overwhelmed. But he had a really good performance

1068
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: and I think that really helped his draft stock.

1069
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 5: He was a multi sport athlete as a kid.

1070
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: His father was the president of the Chamber of Commerce

1071
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: in Greenville, so it comes from a good family. He

1072
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: won the triple jump in high school at the twenty

1073
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: nineteen state championships. He was a track guy, so he

1074
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: can run. I always like the multiple sport guy Shaw

1075
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: and that aren't specialist and was Nuben Neighbors. I'll get

1076
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: it that Neighbors, Dubin Neighbors whatever. Neighbors was one of

1077
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: those guys too. He played basketball in high school and

1078
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: he played baseball before he played basketball as well. So

1079
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm always a big fan of these guys that are

1080
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: multiple sport athletes.

1081
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you love the athleticism and the power too. And

1082
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: it's funny because as the Giants selected him, they started

1083
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: showing this video of him jumping over.

1084
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: A car and hopefully it wasn't moving. It was not moving.

1085
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: He was running on it. But I don't know, maybe

1086
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: that was a little foreshadowing, like coming to New York.

1087
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: You may have to jump over some cars if you're

1088
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: in the city or if you're walking around in traffic.

1089
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: But do we avoid that.

1090
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: It may, it may come in handy.

1091
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: I think the good news for the Giants fellas is

1092
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: that they got some value and they got some need

1093
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: in the right round. Because this is just about for

1094
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: me as we're into the third round, getting to the

1095
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: middle of the third round where the corners who can

1096
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: help you wide away with some rotational snaps, starts to

1097
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: get a little thin. It's pretty pretty, you know, sure

1098
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: about it? Right now that you know you're not going

1099
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: to find as you go deeper. If the Giants waited

1100
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: to the fourth round, they weren't going to get a

1101
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: guy of this caliber. Let's put it that way. You

1102
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: had to take the cacause it's drying up. You had

1103
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: to it's drying up. So so I'm glad that they

1104
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: did it. And now as we get into the fourth round,

1105
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: Now now you can be a little bit more scattershoot

1106
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: if you want. You can go for a tight end,

1107
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: you can go for a running back, you can go

1108
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: for a defensive tackle, whatever you really like, because at

1109
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: least you got a position that you knew was thin

1110
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: and was going to require fortification.

1111
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: So Phillips is originally from South Carolina. By the way,

1112
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: Newman is from Chicago. Just FYI, I mean know Louisiana

1113
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: for neighbors. His father actually played linebacker for Kentucky from

1114
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety, so some runs in

1115
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: the family there.

1116
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to play it against them eighty six

1117
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: ninety right, No.

1118
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: No, no, I just I think I'm still in my

1119
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: diaper in eighty six.

1120
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 15: Paul had to cover those games though, Yeah, Paul anything, No,

1121
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 15: that was eighteen eighty six, Yeah, exactly, all right, you

1122
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 15: guys got to take some calls her a right, Why

1123
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 15: don't we open up the phones here two one nine,

1124
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 15: three nine four five one three.

1125
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Of course you're listening to the Giants Draft Show presented

1126
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: by Kreshtrown. The Giants have a two picks here on

1127
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: day two, Tyler Nuban in the second round at number

1128
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: forty seven, the safety out in Minnesota, and Andrew Phillips,

1129
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Kentucky at pick number seventy. All right,

1130
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones and say what's up to

1131
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Jim and Connecticut. He's gonna lead us off, Hi, Jim, Hey, John.

1132
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 16: I'm just gonna be like a million persons to say,

1133
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 16: amazing job with the draft cover. It's just unbelievable when

1134
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 16: I can do a mock draft simulator and know from

1135
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 16: a personal interview what a guy from who was like

1136
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 16: a cornerback from Tulane is all about. We can't get

1137
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 16: drafted in like the seventh round.

1138
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: That's pretty great, well, Jim, I gotta be honest with

1139
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 4: the iron again. I honestly don't get tired hearing it.

1140
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: So that's fine. I appreciate that checking the man.

1141
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 16: I mean, that's got a whole thing where you did

1142
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 16: those at where you did that thing at the Shrine

1143
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 16: Bowl in the Sea Bowl, where you kept asking it

1144
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 16: was weird you asked these the same question in these guys,

1145
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 16: but you managed to kind of elicit different things.

1146
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 7: It was just just terrific.

1147
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: That's been great.

1148
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 16: I love like two quick points about I just want

1149
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 16: to get yeah.

1150
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: Jim, you know what, Jim we hey, I co signed

1151
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: with Jim.

1152
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 16: You probably want to get Charlie on here to get

1153
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 16: to talk about how Spencer Rattler has to be the

1154
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 16: next pick.

1155
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, don't say his name, Jim.

1156
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 16: I'm to blame.

1157
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 11: I'm playing, Okay.

1158
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 16: I went toll to Tino.

1159
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 5: What it was.

1160
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 16: I thinking, here's the thing on the on the pick. Sorry, Paul,

1161
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 16: you're you're you're a legend.

1162
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 6: But anyway.

1163
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 16: On NEWBN, terrific for Bowen's schemes, smart in the right place,

1164
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 16: low r S scorer, who cares?

1165
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: You know that?

1166
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 16: What safety does?

1167
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 6: I mean?

1168
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 16: You know they always rip a safety think of all

1169
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 16: the good safetyes recently the guy from the Ravens and stuff.

1170
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 16: But anyway, and I think, uh, you know Phillips. Obviously

1171
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 16: Tracy is jumped over coats and stuff, you know, for

1172
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 16: the best. So I like both picks. What I wanted

1173
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 16: to get real quick is this John. I'm kind of

1174
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 16: sad to see Benson go. I wonder if he's who

1175
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 16: out there in the fourth round for tomorrow, would you

1176
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 16: consider for running back? Do you think on the tight

1177
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 16: end front, would THEO Johnson possibly still be around? Seems

1178
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 16: interesting and whether that's a luxury pick. I was gonna ask, Oh,

1179
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 16: so sean of the strange?

1180
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 4: Sorry?

1181
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 16: Sorry, I was also gonna ask about Christian Haynes. Any

1182
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 16: chance maybe he survived or is still on the board

1183
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 16: in the fourth round from Connecticut. Also seems like a

1184
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 16: really interesting player. And last for Paul, is there a

1185
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 16: skyscraper up there in the later rounds? It would be

1186
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 16: like a sixth round pick that might be a project

1187
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 16: of something that you know, you like, that you know

1188
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 16: could make the team and be kind of an interesting

1189
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 16: tall guy in the receiving court.

1190
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 7: And that's it.

1191
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: Wow, a lot of names there, Jim, I'm gonna try

1192
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: to hit a lot of those. I'll start with the

1193
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: tight end. Yes, there, I appreciate the call.

1194
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 4: Awesome call. Thank you for the for the praise. We

1195
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: appreciate it.

1196
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: THEO Johnson, Yes, in my opinion, there's a chance he's

1197
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: there in round four. Uh, why don't we start there?

1198
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: He was looking for a running back on Day three, Paul,

1199
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: is that the thing he was looking for that.

1200
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: Benson just went he was bummed about that.

1201
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: I'll hit those Blake only two only two running backs

1202
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: that have been taking still estimate, Ray Davis, Marshawn Lloyd,

1203
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: will Shipley, Blake Korm, Jalen Right. There's a lot of

1204
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: guys left there that people like, so a lot of

1205
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: running back Sean.

1206
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: He Jalen, Jalen Rights, a burner, the speed guy, want

1207
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: speedy guy.

1208
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: He was asking about Christian Haynes, what do you think

1209
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: about him as a player. I'm not sure he's gonna

1210
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: get to in round two three, especially since the Cowboys

1211
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: just took Cooper BB by the way, which annoys all

1212
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: of us because I had a second round great on

1213
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: the guy, and Zach Waran is going to retire after

1214
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: the end.

1215
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 4: They're just gonna plug him right in and they're gonna

1216
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 4: be Yeah.

1217
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: Cooper b B looks exactly like Zach Martin as a

1218
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: left guard, and that's pretty much where he was, and

1219
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 3: we were talking about him earlier on in the cafeteria.

1220
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: I really like Cooper b B. I thought he'd be

1221
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: a great pick up for the Giants if they could have.

1222
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: Staggered it might have been the highest guy left.

1223
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a stunt. I mean he's thick, he's a

1224
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: he's a maller. To answer a question about Christian Haynes,

1225
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: I really like Christian hanks technique. I like his ability.

1226
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: So I absolutely think that the Giants, if they could

1227
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: find a way to snap him in the fourth round,

1228
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: if he's still available, that would be a great pickup.

1229
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: He's actually his arms are two inches longer than Cooper Bebes.

1230
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: Like the one knock on Cooper BB was that kind

1231
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: of short arms. Look at my entire career. People will

1232
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: talk about my short arm. So you can still have

1233
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: an eleven year career with short arm.

1234
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: If you want to pitch your Cooper BB's body type,

1235
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: imagine a college refrigerator on top of like a pair

1236
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: of like stilts.

1237
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: That's kind of a Cooper be He's like a k Rainer.

1238
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: He's like come back, like squished.

1239
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: Up, solid as a rock out.

1240
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 5: They'll get me wrong, but he is like a big,

1241
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 5: square body.

1242
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1243
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 3: I think Christian Haynes is very he was very balanced.

1244
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 3: He's got really good feet, really good hands. I think

1245
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: he's going to be a really solid player.

1246
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 5: And Paul, he wanted you to find a late round skyscraper.

1247
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to give you a guy because he

1248
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: was a red shirt last year by injury. Bryce Ford Wheaton,

1249
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 4: coming back from the torn acl last year, had a

1250
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: terrific summer camp at six ' four West Virginia wide

1251
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: receiver on drafted rookie free agent. Giants gave him a

1252
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: lot of money as a bonus to bring him in.

1253
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: Looked really good during summer camp. They worked him in

1254
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: special teams. Looked like he was going to be promising.

1255
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: I think he was going to make the final fifty

1256
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: three opening day, to be quite frank with you, and

1257
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: then he ripped up his knee and that was it.

1258
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: H He's been rehabbing like a demon. And you know

1259
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 4: what you want it? You want a dark horse skyscraper

1260
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 4: six four and he can run. Uh, there's my dark

1261
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 4: horse injury. I are red shirt from last year cheated.

1262
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: Oh hey, I'll put my money on him. But before

1263
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 4: I pick anybody in the in the fifth or sixth

1264
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: round here.

1265
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: Okay, how about this, I'm gonna give you guy with

1266
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 5: some bloodlines, Paul and then Rice.

1267
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: He's not a skyscraper's six skyscraper has got to be

1268
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: six four. Sorry, Pameters but Johnny Wolveon out of Florida State.

1269
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: He's six seven. Yes, yes, yes, yes he is. I'll

1270
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: take tight End. I'll take Bryce Ford Wheaton anyway, Okay,

1271
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: fair enough? Two o one nine three die four five

1272
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: one three. Sorry, guys. At ten o'clock, we're gonna have

1273
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: a little bit of funny. I don't know what to

1274
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: tell you. Let's go to car Out in Syracuse. Car Mine,

1275
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 4: you're up neck, so that's it. Go on, man, hey,

1276
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: we man.

1277
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 11: How you guys going.

1278
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 4: We're good, car Mine, how are you.

1279
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 5: Fine?

1280
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 11: And I'm gonna just I'm just gonna tell you, thank

1281
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 11: god I had to bring to download the app for Giants,

1282
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 11: the giants dot Com app. I'm more, I'm beyond loyal

1283
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 11: to the Giants. I'm making my business not to miss

1284
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 11: the draft every year because we you know, we need

1285
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 11: to we need to change some things. And on top

1286
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 11: of that, uh, Paul Detino, Yeah, from Syracuse, New York.

1287
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 11: You came to Syracuse to lamoy In College to commentate

1288
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 11: on the game. One side I did, he.

1289
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: Did, yes, more more than once. I was up there

1290
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 4: a couple of times this year.

1291
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 11: Really, you know, you was around the corner from a

1292
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 11: pretty good Italian restaurant. And not only that, he was

1293
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 11: around the corner from this job I work at. I

1294
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 11: work at a high school way around the corner from

1295
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 11: there and stuff. And at the end of the day,

1296
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 11: I was shocked to see you on TV.

1297
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, okay, well, you know I can't

1298
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 4: live on football alone. What happens after the Super bowls over?

1299
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 4: I need to do college basketball for a few months.

1300
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 11: Look, you don't You don't strike me as a guy

1301
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 11: that want to sit on the couch and flicking.

1302
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 4: No.

1303
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he owns a couch.

1304
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: Now, Carlin, here's the thing Paul's going to be back.

1305
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: You need to do.

1306
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 5: Inform about this Italian restaurant. We need some Italian before

1307
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 5: he drives on from these basketball.

1308
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 9: No.

1309
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, that's not that's not the name

1310
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 11: of the restaurant. That's just what my friends called me, Carmine.

1311
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 11: But the name of the restaurant that you were near

1312
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 11: was called Delmonico's. Okay, I'll tell you what the next

1313
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 11: time you come up in basketball season. Because I watched

1314
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 11: the Yes Network. I like the next booklyn Nets. If

1315
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 11: I know you're coming up here to commentate, I'll introduce it.

1316
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 11: I'll introduce myself to you very cool, and and if

1317
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 11: you want to eat whatever, I'll me and your people whatever.

1318
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 11: I'll direct you to where the restaurant is.

1319
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: We can we can uh, we can.

1320
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 11: All sit down and eat and just talk sports. I

1321
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 11: don't care.

1322
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1323
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 5: What's your putting on the Giants, Carmine?

1324
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 11: Okay, at the end of the day, the I'm calling

1325
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 11: because I'm kind of concerned about the Giants and stuff.

1326
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 11: And my thing is this, is it just me or

1327
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 11: or are the Giants afraid of actual speed from from

1328
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 11: in the draft? What I mean by that is man,

1329
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 11: last night, Xavier Worthy got picked. Man, Xavier Worthy should

1330
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 11: have been picked by us when we we had plus

1331
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 11: when we're at number six. I don't think we should

1332
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 11: have gave it to Kansas City because right now Andy

1333
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 11: Reid is a madman running to the bank right now?

1334
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: Have you seen it, neighbors play, Carmine, He's pretty fast.

1335
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: I would he's fast.

1336
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 11: So what you know what, I don't hate. I don't

1337
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 11: hate the pick. I'm not saying that he is strong.

1338
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 17: He is tall.

1339
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 11: I'ma give him now. I've seen his close. I've seen

1340
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 11: I see l s u play and I and I

1341
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 11: thought that the down inside we get Jayden uh Daniels

1342
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 11: for this ain't the year for that. But the wide

1343
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 11: receiver we do need. And I'm not and I'm not

1344
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 11: saying I'm I'm uh, I'm unhappy with it, but I

1345
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 11: would have loved it even more if we'd have got

1346
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 11: Jalen uh Jalen Xavier Worthy because for one reason, one

1347
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 11: reason only, we need to We need to get revenge

1348
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 11: on the whole NFC each man, like from the years

1349
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 11: of the Shawn Jackson and now we got us what's

1350
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 11: that bay name from number eighty eight at Dallas.

1351
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

1352
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, and and and it just breaks my heart ball

1353
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 11: every time I turn around. We always getting burnt man,

1354
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 11: and then and then not only that, to keep the

1355
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 11: conversation going, even on the defensive side and stuff. I

1356
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 11: like some of the d backs we've had, but we

1357
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 11: need faster d backs, man. It's and you know, and

1358
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 11: at the end of the day, I love the two

1359
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 11: Super Bowl wrings we got with what's name, But somewhere

1360
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 11: down the line, man, we just need we need we

1361
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 11: need beyond change, man, we need we just need faster people.

1362
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 11: That's aw what I'm saying. And I'm not saying, you know,

1363
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 11: I'm not just the Giants. I love the Giants. I

1364
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 11: loved them since I saw Lawrence Taylor play. But at

1365
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 11: the end of the day, I'm at a point in

1366
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 11: life now that we just need them. We just need

1367
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 11: to be up there on the speeder, the more speedier level,

1368
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, Because I want to competition.

1369
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 4: I call my good stuff.

1370
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: Man.

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00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: I appreciate your fan and and I appreciate the call man,

1372
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 5: good thank you. But trust me, my league, neighbors will

1373
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 5: be just fine against the Eagles, Cowboys and Commanders.

1374
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way. And anybody in the NFL is

1375
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: taken worthy over neighbors like worthy. Yes, he ran an

1376
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: unbelievable time at the forty, But the first thing I

1377
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: heard from multiple sources down to the common they were like,

1378
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: that's awesome. He can run, but we don't know if

1379
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: you can catch.

1380
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: And that's kind of important to yours, kind.

1381
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: Of a big, kind of a big part of the

1382
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: job description. Neighbors. We know what he could do, we

1383
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: know the explosive ability has so uh yeah, I'll take

1384
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: neighbors all day long.

1385
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree to them. Nine three, nine four or five.

1386
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: I'd be careful, Paul. First of all, he said, my

1387
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: friends call me Carmis. It's not even his wrong name.

1388
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 5: So I don't know what's going to happen in that

1389
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: restaurant with you at him, But i'd be careful, Paul.

1390
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: Tell somebody where you're gonna be before you go over there.

1391
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: He's already got he's already got do Moonico's logged into

1392
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 3: his phone.

1393
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 4: He's ready to go. Let's go to Daniel and Australia. Daniel,

1394
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: you're up next. How you're doing?

1395
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 5: Man?

1396
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 11: How you doing?

1397
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 5: Guys?

1398
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 16: Man?

1399
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 18: It's first of all aesome to come on here. Huge

1400
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 18: fan New York Giants fan, New Yorker living in Australia.

1401
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: But what time is it right now over there? Dude?

1402
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 4: What time is it over there?

1403
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1404
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 18: It is Friday twelve ten midday currently right now?

1405
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 6: Sorry?

1406
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: Wow, Saturday? Yes, And I see Jordan Myla doing a

1407
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 3: pick from Australia.

1408
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: You guys have like fourteen hours ahead of.

1409
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 4: All right, Daniel, what do you got? What do you

1410
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 4: got for us?

1411
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 9: Well?

1412
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 18: First of all, I think all the Giants picks have

1413
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 18: been phenomenal so far. I just want to get your

1414
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 18: thoughts on who potentially could be next. And do we

1415
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 18: think a running back should be going to us in

1416
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 18: the fourth round, because I would love another running back

1417
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 18: on this Rosty. I know we have Devin Singletary, I

1418
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 18: know Jalen Wright is available, who I love out of Tennessee.

1419
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 18: Maybe Isaac Correndo, who really surprised us at the NFL combines.

1420
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 18: Just any your thoughts here at the running back position.

1421
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 18: But yes, all the three picks Neighbors, Nu, Ben and

1422
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 18: Phillips here have been phenomenal. I think we addressed everything

1423
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 18: that we needed. I'm glad we didn't get a quarterback.

1424
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 18: And yeah, once again, a huge, huge fan of you guys.

1425
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 18: Keep grinding out.

1426
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, appreciate you joining us all day from this

1427
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: is that might be our first Australia call.

1428
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: I think we've we've all see.

1429
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: We have hit another continent. Potentially, Yeah, potentially.

1430
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 5: All right, I already kind of gave my spield a

1431
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 5: little bit. Sean, what are your thoughts on the running

1432
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 5: backs here, the guys that you might like that are

1433
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 5: still off on the board that could be available in around.

1434
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: Four Yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, there's only two

1435
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: running backs that have gone in the draft, so far.

1436
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: So you got Blake Corhum from Michigan. He's a stud.

1437
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a guy that I don't think you

1438
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: can give him enough carries he can as he showed

1439
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: at Michigan. Jalen Wright, he kind of mentioned him in

1440
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: passing and we talked about him briefly. He's a burner

1441
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: four three eight forty guy, caught a ton of balls

1442
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: out of the backfield. He's an explosive, explosive player. So

1443
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: I think that could be somebody that they could end

1444
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: up targeting, because you know, when you look at the

1445
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: backfield right now with Singletary, and you know it's gonna

1446
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: be a running back by committee throughout. But to have

1447
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: a guy like that, and usually young running backs when

1448
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: they come in, you kind of sprinkle him in and

1449
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: packages anyways, But I don't know. Jalen Wright, he kind

1450
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: of reminds me maybe he could be the fit that

1451
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions had with their one two punch last year,

1452
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: and that right there, you get a weapon like that

1453
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: out of the backfield that could be huge. So, uh,

1454
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: those are a couple of running backs that really kind

1455
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: of jump off of me, and I wouldn't be shocked

1456
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: if the Giants picked a running back fourth or fifth round.

1457
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 5: Paul, you talked about estimate. We mentioned Alan Lloyd Lloyd too.

1458
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw Ray.

1459
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Davis out there out of Kentucky. I think he's a

1460
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: really good all around back that can do a little bit.

1461
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Everything's a little bit older. Wasn't an elite tester, but

1462
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. You want a receiver

1463
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Will Shipley at a Clemson I

1464
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: think is a really good shifty receiver that's a good catcher.

1465
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: And then we haven't mentioned Blake Kormaton, but if you

1466
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you want someone that's interchangeable with Devin Singletary,

1467
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: those of us actually profile very similar and they don't

1468
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: have great top speed. They're both shorter, they're both elusive.

1469
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: So those are some of the other running backs that

1470
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: are out there too. Two one, nine, three Steves in Atlanta,

1471
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: He's up next his Steve.

1472
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 19: Hey, John, I'm very pleased with what we're doing. The

1473
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 19: only one thing I want to start first of Carmine

1474
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 19: needs to understand the Giants. Since since Joe Shane has

1475
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 19: been here, speed has been what we have been getting

1476
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 19: nothing but speed on here. So he needs to look

1477
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 19: at the players a little bit better. Anyhow, I like

1478
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 19: where we're where we are, and I really like that

1479
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 19: actually our first and second kick. I was not as

1480
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 19: thrilled right now. On the cornerback, I was actually thinking TJ.

1481
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 19: Caampa might have been a little bit higher than Phillips,

1482
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 19: especially because we were looking more for an outside cornerback

1483
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 19: as opposed to a slot.

1484
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1485
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 5: I think Tampa would have fit wink so old scheme

1486
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 5: because he's long, much better, big outside cornera. We just

1487
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 5: don't have a great feel for what sham Bowen's looking

1488
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 5: for at the position yet right based on what he

1489
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 5: did in Tennessee, size was never a big priority for

1490
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 5: him there, so I think that's probably why he's still

1491
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 5: out there on the board.

1492
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, from running backs, I'm agreeing with Wright. I really

1493
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 19: would like to see right, but there looks like there

1494
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 19: between that and Lloyd Shipley is good, but he's been

1495
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 19: Corm and Shipley both have a lot of tread Warren

1496
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 19: on the tires.

1497
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 4: They do, Yes they do, You're right, but God knows

1498
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 4: horriball buried Corm into the ground for sure.

1499
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 19: But the one guy I also like is Kate Still.

1500
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 19: I really think that he's he's a hi.

1501
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: Yep. We had their radio analyst on our BBKL program

1502
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: that day when we were talking about him, and he

1503
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 4: was extremely high on him.

1504
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, no, So that's a And some ways, I

1505
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 19: think that actually the running backs are gonna I think

1506
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 19: we could still get one in the fifth round. And

1507
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 19: I'd actually like to see the tight end in the

1508
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 19: fourth round.

1509
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I could see that, you know.

1510
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: And I still think, by the way, if you want

1511
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 5: to double up on corner here at some point, I

1512
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 5: have no problem with that.

1513
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 4: Either.

1514
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: You want to pick a defensive tackle like Brandon dors

1515
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: and appreciate the call. I think that's another guy you

1516
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: can look at.

1517
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 5: He's still on the board. Dune Carter from Duke, still

1518
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: on the board, Makay Wingo, Ella's.

1519
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: You still on the board.

1520
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: So there are some spots at positions of need that

1521
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: I think can still come in and compete for playing

1522
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: time right away in one way shape or.

1523
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: Form, Sean, Where do you get a lot of these positions,

1524
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 5: Where do you think the biggest need is right now

1525
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 5: based on what's left and the where the giants have

1526
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 5: it at their positions currently.

1527
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you can't have too many corners,

1528
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: so I think that's always a good resource to tap into.

1529
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: You know, running back would make sense. Jalen Wright, we

1530
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: mentioned him, you know, he went to Tennessee. He was

1531
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: actually Jalen Hya's roomate in college, so there's some familiarity there.

1532
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: I know that would be uh that that could be

1533
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: a nice addition to the offense as far as exposure.

1534
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 5: But you're they able to put the fast guys in

1535
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 5: the same rooms together.

1536
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: Is that how that works? Yeah?

1537
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: Apparently apparently speed travels together. I really feel like the Giants,

1538
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: you know, could draft a guard. And I think, look,

1539
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: they brought in John Runyon, you know, I think yet

1540
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: to be determined where Evan Neil and Jermaine a luminar

1541
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: how all that fixes itself out and works yourself out.

1542
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: But I think the Giants, you need healthy guys, you need,

1543
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: you need another guard. And I think that for them,

1544
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: if they drafted a guard immediately just makes that room younger,

1545
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: more competitive, and based off what happened last year, like

1546
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: we need healthy bodies, we need good young legs. So

1547
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: I think the need as much as we addressed the

1548
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: offensive line through free agency, I could see them jumping

1549
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: on a guard.

1550
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 4: Paul, We pretty much, I think have gone over all

1551
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,919
Speaker 4: the different thin spots that the Giants have to still

1552
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 4: look at.

1553
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 5: We would you put a number one?

1554
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 4: Though, Again, I would like to get a big back.

1555
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I mean, that's just where I stand

1556
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: right now. I really would like to add a big

1557
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: back to the room. Again, here's the problem for me.

1558
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: I see it running back by committee, and Singletary to me,

1559
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 4: is not a guy who's going to touch the ball

1560
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 4: more than fifteen times a game. And so as good

1561
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: as he has been over the course of his five

1562
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 4: NFL seasons and been to the playoffs every year, four

1563
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: years with Buffalo and once with Houston, he's been on

1564
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: winning teams and been productive. But again, in a situation

1565
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 4: where you really need to pound it out, I'm worried

1566
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: about trying to put him into that situation while he's

1567
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: part of the rotation. So I need I need a workhorse,

1568
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 4: a big, burly guy who may only touched the ball

1569
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 4: eight times a game, but I want him to be

1570
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: able to pound it.

1571
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 3: Singletary was very effective, but you know, correct me if

1572
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. He's never had a thousand yard season. No,

1573
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: so he's not you know, and he's that because he

1574
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: was up in Buffalo, they did the running back by committee,

1575
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: and you know, they were more of a pass first offense,

1576
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 3: run it a whole, right, It's not really been you know,

1577
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: it's not because anything Devin Singletary did. But I will

1578
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: say this, when he went down to Houston, like he

1579
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 3: started the season, he was the he was the backup

1580
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: running back, and then you know he he had one

1581
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: of his best and most productive years. The thing about Singletary, though,

1582
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: is every time you turn on the film, like he's

1583
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: just making guys miss, he's running through tackles like he's

1584
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: a good player. But I'm with you, Paul, I think

1585
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 3: I think that I could see the Giants loading up

1586
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: that backfield, you know, with another young stud.

1587
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 4: Somebody with a hammer.

1588
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 18: You know.

1589
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: That's that's why I keep going back to estimate, because

1590
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: he's got a hammer.

1591
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: The one thing the Giants have struggled with is punching

1592
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 3: the ball in whether it's sure you areds third and

1593
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: one down on the goal line, second and one third one.

1594
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 3: How many times did we get down to the goal

1595
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: line over the last couple of years and we just

1596
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: can't muscle it in to your point, even with Saquan, So,

1597
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of that is up front. They've

1598
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: got to do better, you know, from a performance standpoint

1599
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: of blocking. But yeah, you need that, you need that

1600
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: bully bawl.

1601
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 5: All right, let's we have threw more calls on the line.

1602
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 5: We'll get to all three of you guys, and we're

1603
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 5: gonna have to run.

1604
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 4: We appreciate you guys.

1605
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: You've done a fantastic job calling into the show earlier today,

1606
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: this show, the show yesterday, remember two. We're gonna be

1607
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: on again tomorrow starting getting Noondatino and I taking your

1608
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: calls through the Giants pick in the fourth round and

1609
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: then beyond. So thanks for being with us on the

1610
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: Draft Show presented by Crushtron. Let's wrap things up. We

1611
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: got three more calls.

1612
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 5: Ed in North Carolina is first of three, and then

1613
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 5: Stu then burked ed how's it going.

1614
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 17: It's going, good man. It's been a fan of the

1615
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 17: show for years and years. It's the first time I've

1616
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 17: ever been off work where I could call in. I

1617
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 17: usually just listened to replaces. So thank you so much

1618
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 17: for doing a lot show.

1619
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 5: Thanks for calling in, Ed. We appreciate you listening so

1620
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 5: I had two.

1621
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 17: Like really quick questions, and then I wanted to ask about.

1622
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 10: The old lines, but I went out.

1623
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 17: I went into the different room the other day and

1624
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 17: I thought I heard Paul Dott say something about Lazizo Jali.

1625
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 11: Is he healthy?

1626
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 17: Is there something wrong with him right now?

1627
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 4: He's healthy. He has not been very healthy the last

1628
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 4: two years. But he does not have a freeze. It's

1629
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: an injury. I believe he actually finished the season he did. Correct. Yeah,

1630
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 4: what you probably heard us was talking about the depth

1631
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: that the edge spot. And the question was with Thibodeau

1632
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: and Burns, you got your two primary edge guys, and

1633
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 4: you'd love to have old Jeli in there, you know,

1634
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: to help relieve those guys, give them some time off.

1635
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 4: But Old July he's got to prove in this. Really

1636
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: it's a show me season for him because he hasn't

1637
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 4: been able to stay in the field and his production

1638
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 4: and efficiency this past season actually decreased. You know, he's

1639
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 4: got to pick it up, right.

1640
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 18: I agree.

1641
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 17: My other question was don't we still have three quarterbacks

1642
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 17: on the roster because I keep hearing from friends of

1643
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 17: mine that the kid from Tulane would be a good

1644
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 17: fit for us. But don't we have Daniel Jones de.

1645
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 4: Veto and it Drew Lot Now, yes, sir, that's correct.

1646
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 5: That's why when Joe Shane was asked last week whether

1647
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 5: or not he'd be comfortable going into the year with

1648
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 5: these three quarterbacks, he said, yes, correct.

1649
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 17: Okay, So finally, uh, I assume we're going to do

1650
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 17: something to address a little bit of depth at O line.

1651
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 17: I was wondering what you guys, Uh, what you guys

1652
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 17: thought we needed?

1653
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 5: Good question ed? Great, great call. Appreciate it. You know

1654
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 5: it's a good debate.

1655
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: You have Neil and illuminaries your tackles. You have a

1656
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: lot of numbers at guard.

1657
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 5: I guess if you really wanted part of me to

1658
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 5: you probably could use one more guy at tackle more

1659
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 5: than you can use one more guy at guard, just

1660
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 5: based on pure numbers.

1661
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 4: But tackle is generally the more valuable position. What do

1662
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 4: you think about that, Sean?

1663
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 3: I think if you can get a guy that maybe

1664
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: played tackle in college and you could have him kind

1665
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: of morph Look, a lot of teams dressed seven offensive

1666
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: linement on game days, so basically your sixth and seventh

1667
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 3: guy has to be able to play guard and tackle.

1668
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 5: Matt Kalvis who just got drafted, was one of those

1669
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 5: guys that he was played both at of Pittsburgh.

1670
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: It was you know Marcus McKeithen. You know he you know,

1671
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: tore his knee up. I think he was he was

1672
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 3: going to be a guy in the mix. So you

1673
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: know him and josh A Zudu both you know battle

1674
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 3: battle injuries last year.

1675
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 4: He's played both too.

1676
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zudu was kind of that swing guy. He could

1677
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: swing out the tackle where he played uh at North

1678
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: Carolina in college and then I think he's more of

1679
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: a guard. But I think when you kind of look

1680
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: at you know, you want to create depth at all

1681
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: those positions, but you also want to create competition. You

1682
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: want guys that are pushing each other. So that's why

1683
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 3: I think Germaine and Luminar was such a big pick

1684
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 3: up for the Giants because look, he started for the

1685
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 3: Raiders last year. He started every single game. He he

1686
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: started for the Patriots as well. He is going to

1687
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: push Evan Neil. And look, if Evan Neils improves and

1688
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 3: he can win that starting job, then we're going to

1689
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 3: get a better version, the best version of Evan Neil

1690
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: we've seen. But if not, Jermaine a luminor is he's

1691
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: going to make a push to be a starter, So

1692
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 3: that could either move Evan Neil inside or you know,

1693
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 3: he could be the swing tackle. I think from a

1694
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: guard standpoint, we mentioned Christian Haynes, he's available. He's predominantly

1695
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: a right guard, that's all he played in college. So

1696
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: for him, he would have to move over left guard

1697
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: if Running is going to be a right guard, or

1698
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 3: you move Running over the left. But I think the

1699
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: other guy that's kind of out there that would be

1700
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: a little bit of a sleeper pick could be Christian

1701
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: Mahogany from Boston College. He's in Jersey, guys from Elmwood Park.

1702
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: Thinking with the primus Catholic, He's one of those guys

1703
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 3: that I could see the Giants picking up later on,

1704
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 3: kind of like what they did with josh A Zudu

1705
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: greater type. Yeah, he's very physical, he's got a unique

1706
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: kind of little stance, little technique.

1707
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: He's exactly what you think of Boston College guard.

1708
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he's got he's got really good technique,

1709
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: got a good anchor, good base. So those are guys

1710
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: that I think the Giants could kind of, you know,

1711
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: go after as we get into the fifth and sixth rounds.

1712
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 4: How in terms of the offensive guards that you just

1713
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: talked about, we really haven't talked about how Stinny comes

1714
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: into this equation. He did start a year in Tampa Bay,

1715
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 4: and now he's with the Giants, one of those medium

1716
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: priced to the lower priced free agents that they signed.

1717
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: Is he capable of challenging for starting guard job or

1718
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 4: do you think he's just depth.

1719
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: No, I think he's going to make a push. I

1720
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: mean that's part of the reason why he probably came

1721
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: here and signed here was there's an opportunity for me

1722
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 3: to be a starter.

1723
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 7: You know.

1724
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: Look, that left guard spot is you know, pretty much

1725
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: up for grabs, so you like a guy that's got

1726
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 3: some veteran experience with that. I think Stinny also he

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: might have played center too, so he can he could

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: do that in a pinch as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got Seawn's final thoughts here being summoned.

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: I believe you're going to have Andrew Phillips here in

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: a second, Shawn, so we'll be wrapped by the time

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Speaker 1: you're done.

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Speaker 4: Excellent job.

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 5: This was fun, brother Hardy.

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Speaker 3: All right, stuff. I'm looking forward to your book next year.

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01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: All right, the Schmelky. I think you're puting so much

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: time and so much work into all this stuff, and

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: you know what, like it's all here, like, let's get

1739
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: it out there, let's sell it. The Schmelky. I think

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: people want it. I would love to hear from the viewers.

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01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 3: We need people to We need to feedback on this.

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01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: I like it the Schmelky.

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,879
Speaker 5: Report instead of the Beast of the Smelky.

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: Smelky the Beast go for Yeah, thank you, Sean.

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: We'll work on it.

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 10: Well.

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 4: I have to get the people working on the marketing

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 4: campaign upstairs for that good stuff. Sean. Have fun talking

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: Andrew Phillips. Always a pleasure. Yeah, please, I'm definitely need

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 4: some of that. All right, let's go steal it New Jersey.

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 4: Steer your final call the show today, Steve, what's going on?

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 19: Guys?

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 10: How you guys doing?

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: Hello? Man, you are spry for the long day that

1756
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 4: we've gone through.

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01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well listen, I you know what, I got

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 6: a question.

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 4: Christian Haynes just went by the way to Seattle Guard

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 4: had picked number.

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01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: Eighty one and by the way, I'll throw it Dominic

1762
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: poony too, by the way, as another kind of car

1763
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: tackle hybrid that I like anyway, legit, legit prospects still

1764
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: go ahead.

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 19: Listen, I want to know why why is Joe Milton

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01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 19: being drafted so low?

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01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 7: To me?

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01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 9: He seems raw.

1769
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 4: Oh, he's as raw as the seller on the supermarket shelf.

1770
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 4: He does not He needs a lot of work. But

1771
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 4: he's got the best pure arm in the draft. Well,

1772
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 4: I would say that he is the most powerful arm.

1773
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he doesn't have like that throw a budget,

1774
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 5: he doesn't throw a touch like. He doesn't have like

1775
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 5: but he doesn't not what versatile arm. He has a

1776
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 5: power arm strongest arm strongest, that's a good way to

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01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 5: put it.

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01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 4: Yet that you know. But but experience is lacking. There's

1779
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 4: a lot about the game plan that he would use

1780
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 4: a system guy, Tennessee, there's a lot he needs work on.

1781
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 4: If you want to take Milton, you take him late

1782
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 4: in the third day and you plant to sit him

1783
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 4: for two years. He is truly a developmental with a

1784
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: capital D. But I think that his size okay, and

1785
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: his quality guy all right, from everything I've heard people

1786
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 4: in Tennessee, quality guy, good guy in the locker room. Again, size, physicality,

1787
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: the arm strength, you're gonna have to do a lot

1788
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 4: of work on him though, So he sits for he

1789
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 4: sits for two years.

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 11: Paul, you don't think he deserves to be in their

1791
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 11: quarterback room.

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 4: I just said he could be a developmental guy for

1793
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 4: a lot of teams if they're willing to wait. He's

1794
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 4: not ready right now. He's not ready right now.

1795
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 10: I just think with day Ball in his track record,

1796
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 10: with with with bringing raw talent, I just think day

1797
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 10: Ball can really work him out.

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's gonna take a lot of time, a lot, Okay, No,

1799
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 5: just however, he couldn't even keep a starting job before

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01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 5: he showed up at Tennessee.

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,839
Speaker 4: I told you he says raw as a piece of selary.

1802
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: He's really really wrong.

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, he just really impressed me.

1804
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 4: I get it. You love the arm strength, you love

1805
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 4: the physique he's got, the frame, the size he's got.

1806
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 4: There's there's stuff, there's stuff that makes him attractive.

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01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: He checks every box, and you're right and stull in

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: terms of traits. He checks every box you would want,

1809
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: And I get where you're coming from. My suggestion would

1810
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: be find a couple of Tennessee games on YouTube and

1811
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: watch them. Yeah, and then you'll see and and then

1812
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: and and and then call us back, and I'm curious

1813
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: to see if your opinion has changed it all.

1814
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 10: Well, I will do that. I will do that.

1815
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: I'll give you I'll give you a guy if you

1816
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: want the Florida State kid Leary.

1817
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 5: All right, if you really want to dig deep into

1818
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 5: the third day with Florida States, Jordan Travis Travis, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah,

1819
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 5: Devin Leary. He is the other former NC state in Kentucky, right, Kentucky.

1820
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 5: To make sure I had the right guy, absolutely absolutely.

1821
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 4: Look, I am so exhausted it's not even funny. And

1822
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 4: we got to do another show tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, let's

1823
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: go back to Travis. Broken leg, okay, injured, you gonna

1824
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 4: have to deal with that. He certainly needs some work,

1825
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 4: but there's no question that he has more polish, more experience,

1826
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 4: more savvy, he's got more touch, had some production at

1827
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 4: a very high level. You want to take a flyer

1828
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: on somebody there, he's more further development. And Spencer Ratlers

1829
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: throw on the board too. Well, you know I feel

1830
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 4: about Rattler. I think he's the best guy of the

1831
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: second group. Oh wow, how about the rams who had him?

1832
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ratler has some traits and appreciate the call

1833
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: Bert good great good great stuff too. Sorry, Bert was

1834
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: the guy that hung up right, If I'm not mistaken,

1835
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: Rams just took Blake Krum, which I see this thing

1836
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: because he's kind of a physical clone.

1837
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 4: To Kyon Williams. Yeah, who had a really good.

1838
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: Year for them last year. So I guess that's now

1839
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a timeshare backfields. All the Kyen Williams fantasy

1840
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: football owners are very very unhappy right now.

1841
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: Who thought that? Ha's you, Dob, You have Kyen Williams love,

1842
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: you have a keeper league. You're in a lot of trouble. Sorry,

1843
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 4: that is this is not a good moment for you, sir.

1844
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 4: I feel for you.

1845
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: Just real quick, folks, just to update, we went through

1846
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: all the guys that we might and we'll give a

1847
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: couple of names before we say goodbye. But since the

1848
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: Giants picks, just to keep everyone update, then we got

1849
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: a role here. You had Isaiah Adams to Arizona, Trevin

1850
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: Wallace the linebackers of the Panthers. The Cowboys took Cooper

1851
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: beebe Braylin tries to pass rusher to the Falcons. The

1852
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: Bears took kirn Emmagagee from Yale, the offensive tackle.

1853
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 4: I still have that one right.

1854
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Jonah Ellis, the defensive end from Utah, went to Denver,

1855
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 1: del Mar Glaize, Maryland offensive lineman to the Raiders. Houston

1856
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: took safety Kaitlin Bullock, the great ballhawk, Macncalvis, the oft

1857
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: injured offensive lineman from Pittsburgh went to Indy. Jermaine Burton,

1858
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: the super talented but troubled wide receiver, went to Cincinnati.

1859
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 4: Boy him and Joe Burrow. That is that's crazy.

1860
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: Christian Haynes went to Seattle, and then Tip Ryman went

1861
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 1: to Arizona.

1862
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 5: And now Blake Korum just went to the Rams.

1863
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: So Paul I, we already kind of talked a lot

1864
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: of some of the names here you mentioned estimate Christian

1865
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: Haynes got picked, So he's off the board. I'll throw

1866
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: on McKay Wingo and Brandon Dorles's defensive tackles.

1867
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 4: Duwing Carter two.

1868
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 5: If you want a bigger corners and you just took

1869
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 5: a smaller guy in Phillips, TJ Tampa cam Hart, Kyree Jackson.

1870
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 5: If you want to go there, guards Dominic Pooney, Mason McCormick,

1871
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 5: Christian Mahogany.

1872
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson is a hybrid tight end. Otherwise, Kate Stover,

1873
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: those are the kind of the.

1874
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 4: Name Johnson, mcclatchen, mclaughland, Cloughland. Yeah, three O the three

1875
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 4: tight ends out there, well, I think would all be

1876
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: you know, solid pick so you know in the later

1877
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 4: stages here yep, So that's where we are, folks. I

1878
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 4: want to thank you again. Don't forget our other podcast.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna try to get to the fifth round pick.

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Speaker 5: We'll see if we make it that long. We might

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01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 5: be sleeping, but oh it's noon, you have plenty.

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01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 4: Of time to sleep. You'll be fine. I don't want

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Speaker 4: Make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 1: And the Steelers just took Roman Wilson, who will fit

1900
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: very nicely into that wide receiver court.

1901
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: Troy Franklin still on the board, by the way, Carolina.

1902
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Both those guys really big upset, but again, it's such

1903
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: a deep wide receiver draft. Is only that we knew

1904
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: one or two guys were going to drop that shouldn't

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01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: we know? Then they're still on the board. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: phones on these shows. It's late you tune in.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I ran out of time, but we really

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Speaker 1: do appreciate you listen, and I hope you've enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: draft content the last couple of days. And we'll see

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Speaker 1: you on Saturday and noon for another episode of the

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