1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: My hope is that when we get to the end 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, we're not all saying can't wait 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: to flip the calendar. We're looking back and saying, like, 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: what made this year awesome? 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Instead of, Oh, let's get to twenty twenty two. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: Hey, Hurdlers. 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: Emily ABOUDI here bringing you another installment of Hurdle Moment 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: from Hurdle. This week, I am chatting twenty twenty in 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 4: Review with the one, the Only, my good friend, fellow 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: podcaster host of the Ali on the Run show, Ali Feller. 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I was sitting here last week getting 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: tagged in so many of your wonderful Year in Review, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: Spotify roundup posty things, and I love so so much 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 4: much that I get to create content in a world 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: where Ali Feller also creates content because on those posts, 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: her and I were sitting next to each other quite often. 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: So I decided why not bring you two of your 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: favorite podcasters in one place. And on today's episode, Ali 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: and I just kind of get into twenty twenty interview 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: how it's been for us, have an honest conversation opening 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 4: up about the lessons that we have learned, some of 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: our biggest takeaways and just catch up and enjoy the conversation. This, 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: of course, will be a theme over the next few 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: weeks here on Hurdle, talking about the year interview and 25 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: what we can look forward to in the new year. 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: I am curious about what it is that excites you 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: about twenty twenty one and what's to come, So make 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: sure to connect with the show at Hurdle podcast and 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: I am at Emily a body. If you have a 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: hurdle moment of your own, a share, or just want 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: to say hi, I'm always an email by It's Emily 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: at hurdle dot us. 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 5: And if you are. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: Thinking about twenty twenty one and the things that you 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: want to accomplish, I got you. I have a goal 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: setting workshop, a goal setting hurdle session next week, and 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: I would love nothing more than for you to come 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: join me, to come hash out your crazy, big, exciting 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: dreams for. 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 5: The new year and beyond. The link to do that 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 5: is in the show notes. 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: Use the code podcast at checkout for five dollars off. 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: And with that, let's get to hurdling. Today. I am 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: sitting down with Ali Feller, host of the Ali on 45 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: the Run show and good friend of mine. How you 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: doing now? 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? How are you doing? 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: I am doing well. 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: It's so it's actually ironic that well, I don't know 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: if ironic's the right word. But we had like our 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: own little catch up, and then the Spotify like year 52 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: end results like overtook our feed, and I was like 53 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: just seeing your face everywhere, and I was like, we 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: should just get on the mic together, you, me and 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: Dax Shepherd. 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: We really should. 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm surprised Dax didn't want to get in on this 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: with us tonight. 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: I should have held up his people. Yeah did he 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: not email you? What the hell? 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that one went to my spam boulder. I 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 5: get it. It's cool. 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: I basically asked Ali, out of the kindness of her heart, 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: if she would want to get together and rap a 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: little bit and chat about twenty twenty, because man, twenty 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: twenty has been a time. 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: It's been a year and a half and three years 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: and twelve years. 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: Every day is a year, Yeah, every day is a year. 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: And I mean it's been so long since we've caught up, 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: like on the show Aspect. 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So when I was on Hurdle, which was like 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: two years ago, I had I was like, I don't know, 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I was like eight weeks postpartum, because I remember it 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: was like I had to find childcare to come to 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: your apartment from New Jersey and I remember just like freak, 77 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I yeah, it was like I 78 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: think my one of my very first outings as a mom, 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: like work outings, work related things. 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: So you have like a small human. 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: Now I have like a whole little person. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Now she's like my best She's not a baby, she's 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: just like my best little sidekick. And yeah, I mean, 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk all things twenty twenty, but 85 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean talk about a silver lining is that she's 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: at such a I hate to say she's at a 87 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: good age for all of this, but I don't have her. 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not navigating remote learning. I'm not. 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: She's not a newborn, so I'm not in like the 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: scary new phase. 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: It's very much. 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I feel just so unbelievably fortunate that she's in kind 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: of this sweet spot of being a sweet, innocent little 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: kid that I don't have to I don't have to 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: educate too much. I mostly she just hates to be 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: played with and fed and in a clean diaper and 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: then I. 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: Love I love the idea of a sidekick. I just 99 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: have a little sidekick. 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: She is. 101 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like my little buddy, and we just like 102 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: hang out and play together. I mean it's not all, 103 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, just hanging out and laughing. Obviously there are moments, 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: but I mean she's a she's a pretty cool kid, 105 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: like I want to hang out with her. 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: So that's good. 107 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: Oh thank god. Oh man. 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's been at least two years I think 109 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: since you've been on the show. 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: I was on your show like even before that. 111 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: So we're really, you know, kicking it back old school 112 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: and bringing it to the now. I'm excited to catch 113 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: up with you today. 114 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: I asked you to catch up under the premise of 115 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: recapping some of our biggest lessons that we've learned in 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: Before we get into the lessons, I think it would be. 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: Good for you to fill me in on how your 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: life just kind of like the basics shifted in twenty twenty. 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 121 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: The biggest thing is that I was living in Weehawk 122 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: in New Jersey and now I'm living with my parents, which, 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: like we joke about, but I mean it was very. 124 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Much a choice. 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we didn't like get evicted and have 126 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: to live with my parents. Back in March, which was 127 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: like fresh off being at the Olympic Trials, which was 128 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the best weekend ever where I attended. 129 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: I did not run in case that's therapy. 130 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: It was. 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: I was on such a high. 132 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: And then, as we know, the pandemic sort of came 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: out of nowhere for some of us, for us everyday people. 134 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: For I understand that for experts, it did not come 135 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. You saw it coming. I know, I 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: wish we had all listened sooner, but uh, it was 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: on such a high and then this came. And my 138 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: husband was the one who took it seriously and was like, 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: I think that we should do something about this kind 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: of thing. And long story short, I didn't want to 141 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: go anywhere. I wanted to stay put. That was my 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, I love that apartment. I loved our home, 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: I loved our lives. But I think he had the 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: foresight to think, like, this isn't a two week thing. 145 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: And we have a two year well a one and 146 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: a half year old, and a sixty pound dog, and 147 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: maybe coming and going from this apartment building isn't going 148 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: to be fun anyway. We decided to come up and 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: visit my parents in New Hampshire under the premise of 150 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: let's come it for two weeks and they were like, yeah, 151 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: greatly to do it, and that was it. That was 152 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: I think March thirteenth, and we are March seventeenth or something, 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: and we're still here. We just got to a point 154 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: where we were like, we're not going to go back 155 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: anytime soon. We've gotten used to the backyard life and 156 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the country life and it's serving us all really well, 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and it just made sense to break our lease. Our 158 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: stuff is all in a giant storage unit, which is funny. 159 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: You can get a storage unit in New Hampshire that 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: fits all your stuff for cheaper than you can get 161 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: an apartment in New York, New Jersey. So yeah, so 162 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: we're still here and we've adjusted and pivoted in many 163 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: ways and a lot has changed. But like you, I'm 164 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: fortunate to have a career where I can do it remotely, 165 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just so grateful for that that I can 166 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: still have conversations with people every week and get that 167 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: bit of inspiration that I know I need, and I 168 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: think some other people out there need to and we 169 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: can do that remotely, like we are right now. 170 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: We haven't stopped talking. Yeah, twenty twenty has not shut 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: me up. 172 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: So oh man, Well, hopefully if someone's listening to this 173 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: right now that they're happy that we haven't shut up. 174 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: Just I so just yet? 175 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So, I mean huge shift for you going from 176 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: living in, you know, a bustling kind of city environment 177 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: going and getting some more space. I think that that 178 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: is something that a lot of people that are listening 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: to this can totally relate to, just this idea of 180 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: like maybe craving space now that we're inside more than ever. 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not a decision that we came by lightly, 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: and it's also not a final decision. I mean I 183 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: people ask me every single day, where are you going 184 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: to move? 185 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: What are you doing next? When do you leave? 186 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Are you coming back? Like, and we don't have those answers. 187 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I know everyone wants an answer, we don't have them. 188 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 189 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: It's it's just I used to be such a planner, 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: and I still am, at my course, such a planner. 191 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: And again, I know I'm getting ahead of myself with 192 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: the lessons, but this year has certainly taught me that 193 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: it's okay sometimes to just go one day at a 194 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: time and if things are going okay, you don't have 195 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: to just worry about the next thing, Like I'm always 196 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: worried about the next thing. And this year has just 197 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: been a big lesson in like, you know what, we're 198 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: happy here right now, and could we have been happy 199 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: if we stayed in New Jersey. Maybe I would like 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: to think that I can find joy wherever we are, 201 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: and you know, the whole it's not about where you are, 202 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: it's who you're with kind of thing. But it's worked 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: out for us, it certainly has. It's ready for it. Hurdles, 204 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: plenty of hurdles, but you know we've gotten over them. 205 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: We've caught our feet a couple times on the way over. 206 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: But this is where we are for now. This is 207 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: where we'll be for the holidays and through the winter. 208 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: And then it's kind of cool that because we're working remote, 209 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: we can make a list of potential places of where 210 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: to go next and then you know, narrow it down 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: on what's in our budget, which then that's like the 212 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: last fun part. But first we start with the dreaming phase, 213 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for that. 214 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: I like the dreaming phase. 215 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: And I think here's touching on something a lesson that 216 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: has been a really big one for so many of us, 217 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: myself included, which is just this broader concept of letting 218 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: go of the things that you can't control. I mean, 219 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: God twenty twenty, so much that we can't control, and 220 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: so many things that made us feel like angry and frustrated. 221 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: But the reality is is that when you stop putting 222 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: all that energy and that anger and all of that 223 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 4: feeling towards something that you literally can do nothing about, 224 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: then you have new abundant resources to dive into other things, 225 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: whether that be other relationships, other projects, other work. 226 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: Things, you know, you name it totally. 227 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's so important, is that? 228 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: And it's funny because like the pro athletes talk about 229 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: it all the time, right, Talk to any professional runner 230 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: about like recapping a race, whether it went well or 231 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: it didn't, and you ask them about their mindset, and 232 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: they always come back to controlling the controllables. That they 233 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: can't control their competitors and they can't control the weather 234 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: on race day, but they can control their training. They 235 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: can control their mentality going into it or when it 236 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: gets hard. And I don't think I ever really thought 237 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: too much about applying that to stuff beyond running, and 238 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: this year that's been I think the biggest lesson of 239 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty is I can only control what I can control. 240 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: I can only let you know. This sounds cheesy and 241 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to like be putting toxic positivity out there, 242 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: but like I used to wake up and check the 243 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: weather every day, and it no good came from that 244 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: because it was either oh, it's gonna rain, Oh well, 245 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna rain tomorrow. Oh, today's beautiful, and tomorrow's beautiful, 246 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: but Thursday's gonna rain yuck. I just don't check the 247 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: weather now, which often means I am very inappropriately dressed. 248 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: For my runs. 249 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I am always over or underdressed because I'm like, h 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: looks decent out it's not. But like such a simple 251 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: thing of checking the weather was putting me in a 252 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: negative headspace. So now I don't or like my mom, 253 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: bless her heart, she wakes up every morning and puts 254 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: on the news and looks at the little ticker at 255 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen to see what the COVID 256 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: counts are in every county and every town in our state, 257 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: and she gets all worked up about it. 258 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you just don't watch it. She's like, 259 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: but I need to know, And I'm like, but why. 260 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: And yes, there are very real and very serious issues 261 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: and realities we all need to face right now. But 262 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I think those little things of just like not checking 263 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: the weather, I'm so much happier without it, or mom 264 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: not turning on the scrolling ticker of COVID numbers that 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: are rising. 266 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: Like, we know, and let's control what we can control. 267 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: Let's protect our family, let's take care of ourselves and 268 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: our community. 269 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: But I don't know, just those little things. 270 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: I've become really sensitive too, and I just don't want 271 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: that in my life. 272 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you 273 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: about my sponsor, Gooder. 274 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: Y'all. 275 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: Gooder is my ghost to holiday gift for so many people. 276 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: They make affordable, polarized running sunglasses that are no slip, 277 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: no bounds, and as they put it, all fun and 278 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: I am hooked. 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For me, I often think about the things 296 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: that I can do every single day which are giving 297 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: back to me and my mental health, whether that is 298 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: journaling or going out on that run regardless of what 299 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: the weather is outside, and finding those small things that 300 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: just make me happy, that make me feel like me. 301 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: I mean, even back you know, in March and April 302 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: I was dealing with a hip injury of sorts, and 303 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: I needed to move my body in some way. And 304 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: so instead of like sitting there and like pouting and 305 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: being angry and frustrated about the fact that I wasn't 306 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: getting out and running, I laced up my seekers and 307 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: walk down the four flights of stairs and went. 308 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: For a walk. And you know what, that walk was great. 309 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 5: Every day I went and walked five k And you 310 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: know what, everyone's different. Everyone has the things that bring 311 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: them their small hints of joy. But to be able 312 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: to a and not be angry about the circumstance and 313 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: be like really articulate what those things are can be 314 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 5: such a game changer. 315 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, walking is awesome. I love walking. 316 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 5: Love walking. 317 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: I one of the most delightful walk the other day 318 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: around the reservoir at Central Park. I haven't walked that 319 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: reservoir in so low. 320 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: It's the best. 321 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: You notice so much more to like talk about a 322 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: metaphor for life of whether you're running or walking or 323 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: just living life. You notice so much more when you 324 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: slow down, and there's so much more to appreciate when 325 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: you just slow down. 326 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: Slow down. Okay, so hit me with another twenty twenty 327 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: takeaway my friend. 328 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I'm on the spot. 329 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Remember an hour ago when I was like, I'm gonna 330 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: prepare and I'm gonna have a life. 331 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: And then I went for email. 332 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: She says to me, I'm going to spend the next 333 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: hour thinking about the lessons I've learned in twenty twenty. 334 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: And I was like, Wow, this is a really diligent guest. 335 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and I tried, and here I am. And now 336 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, what can I say? What can I say? 337 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Maybe this is cheating because I'm going to go for 338 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: this one. I'm going to go pre pandemic. Because one 339 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: of my biggest lessons came in February at those trials 340 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: that I mentioned, the US Olympic Marathon trials at the 341 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: end of February in Atlanta. I went as a fan 342 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: of the sport and had the opportunity to do a 343 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: couple live shows down there, and that was the first 344 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: weekend where I had that clicking aha moment of I 345 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: belong And I tell people this every day. I tell people, 346 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: if you run, you're a runner, if you're if you're 347 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: a runner, you belong in the running community. Like I 348 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: preach these words, but I don't think that I necessarily 349 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: felt them for myself until that weekend. And I came 350 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: away from that weekend feeling really reinvigorated for the work 351 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that I do, and feeling like the conversations that I 352 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: put out there matter, and just feeling like you can 353 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: be a positive person and impact this world. You don't 354 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: have to have one hundred thousand Instagram followers to do that. 355 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: You don't even have to have one hundred Instagram followers 356 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: to do that. You can be a positive force in 357 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: your family's life, in your friend's lives, like whatever it is. 358 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: And to be able to have that moment before twenty 359 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: twenty sort of went on a really intense downhill slope 360 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: really quickly. I'm really grateful for that, of course, but 361 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: I also I think I needed that. 362 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: I don't think I realized I needed that. 363 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: But what was it about that weekend in particular that 364 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: gave you that feeling? 365 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so I've not yet learned the like, I don't know, 366 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the humbles not the right word, because I do think 367 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty humble person. But I did a live 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: show on what day was it, so it would have 369 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: been Friday before the trials. 370 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: The try were on Saturday, and so Friday morning, I. 371 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: Did a show at the Expo for the trials and 372 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: it was with a handful of women who have been 373 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: on the Alley on the Run Show and who were 374 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: running the trials, but all but one of whom were 375 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: every day runners, so obviously very gifted everyday runners, but 376 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: they weren't professional runners, except for Caitlin Goodman, who is 377 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: a professional runner. And so we talked about how you know, 378 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: running fit in and all that and their lives and 379 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: it was just a lovely conversation and the audience was packed, 380 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: like seats were filled, people were standing, and it was 381 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: at ten am on a Friday. It was so cool 382 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: to see the way people showed up. And we finished 383 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the show and we all had a big group hug 384 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: and I came off. We were on like a little 385 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: stage and I came off stage and there was like 386 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: a whole line of people and so we sort of 387 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: all came down together. And they were people who listened 388 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: to the Alley on the Run Show like they weren't 389 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: waiting to meet Shlane Flanagan or Des Linden or Michelle Obama, 390 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: like they were there to talk to me. And I 391 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: know that sounds a little like they were there to 392 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: meet me, and they swear I don't mean it that way. 393 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: It was just such an incredibly humbling thing to see 394 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: a line of people that just wanted to say I 395 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: listened to the show, and so many people talk to 396 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: me about how they went to Atlanta not knowing any 397 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: professional runners or anyone running the trials, but they heard 398 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: them on the alley on the run show and it 399 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: made them care about the sport and want to be 400 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: there and want to root for these women. And so 401 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: I think that was big is to say, like I myself, 402 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I am not Runners World, I am not Women's Running. 403 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: I am certainly not the New York Times. But I 404 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: am my own thing. And to a lot of people 405 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: out there, that thing just like hurdle, that thing matters, 406 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: and that thing is part of their weekly routine and 407 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: they do care. And so I felt like I got 408 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: to play a really small part in helping bring professional 409 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: running to the broader running community. 410 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: Again, a very small part, but it was really awesome. 411 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I do have a voice here, 412 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: and my voice is different than the mainstream publications. It's different, 413 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not doing investigative journalism. I'm not doing 414 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: reporting here, I'm having conversations, but that might matter, and 415 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: that's really cool. So it was just a really big 416 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: boost and it gave me a lot of really good 417 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: energy to head into the next couple months, which as 418 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: a podcast host were very stressful. The like first day 419 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: that everything shut down, every single one of my sponsors 420 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: was like, we got to back out, like we can't renew, 421 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: we can't pay, we need to whatever it was. And 422 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: we had great conversations and they all ended up sticking 423 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: around and we made it work. 424 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: But it was scary for a while. 425 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I am a podcast host and my husband owns a business. 426 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Like everyone in the world, this year, it didn't feel 427 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of security, and that was scary. 428 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: And so I know, this is turning into the longest 429 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: rambleiest answer ever, but that's kind of my specialty. 430 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: No, not a rambley answer. I totally understand it. I'll 431 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: never forget. When I was down at the trials, you know, 432 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: we definitely cross paths down there, and I was so 433 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: excited just to like see the attendance and like the 434 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: you know, community showing up to support all of these 435 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: who I mean, I know that you agree with this, 436 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 4: like superhumans that have these nine to five jobs and 437 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 4: then like go out and crush these insane times and 438 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: just like love running for the sport of running. And 439 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: I remember that at one of the shows that I 440 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: did as well, like when we finished afterward, one of 441 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: the hurdlers came up to me and she started talking 442 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: to me like we were best friends. 443 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: It is jos She's a gem and. 444 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: I recognize her like shortly after we started chatting. 445 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: But then I was like, oh my god. I was like, 446 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 5: this is just like what it is. 447 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: You are in these people's homes on the regular and 448 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: they are She's gonna die when she listens to this. 449 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: I love her so much. 450 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: Talk about the best energy on the planet and great 451 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: hair too, Joanna, we love. 452 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: You, Oh my god, great hair. I think it's it's 453 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: just it was just so special. And after her and 454 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: I spoke, she she walked away from me and the 455 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: things died down, and a friend of mine at the 456 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: time came up to me and he said, you know 457 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 4: how I know what that was about, And I was like, 458 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: what he's like, it was obviously about hurdle because the 459 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: way that you looked at her was with so much 460 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: love and affection and like, woe is me? Just like 461 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: gratitude that it had to be about Hurdle. O oh 462 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: kills me. Kills me every time. So this also makes 463 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: me think about you're talking about how things got difficult, 464 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: how sponsors like were kind of on the fence about 465 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: what to do next. It makes me think about another 466 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 4: really big takeaway that I have from this year, and 467 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 4: that's really about having some grace with myself. I think that, uh, 468 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: and I'm sure that you know, you can relate just 469 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 4: this idea of like me being my own biggest critic. 470 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: It's definitely something that's always kind of on the back 471 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: burner in my mind, is like how can I be 472 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 4: doing better? What can I be doing better? Is this 473 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 4: good enough? Am I totally messing up? And this year, 474 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: like I had to overcome a really big learning curve, 475 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: like coming into twenty twenty after two full years of Hurdle, 476 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: I can't believe we're approaching its third birthday. It I 477 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: had recorded remotely a total of less than five fingers, 478 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: like less than five times had I recorded remotely, And 479 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: I was scared shitless, Like I was frightened that this 480 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: thing that I worked to build was going to suffer, 481 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: and there was like nothing I could can do. There 482 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 4: was nothing I could do about it. And I had 483 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: to like somehow figure out how to make all of 484 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 4: this work. And in doing that it really taught me 485 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: important lessons in having grace and allowing myself to learn 486 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: on the fly and to learn as I go and 487 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: understand that you know, not every single thing is going 488 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: to be perfect or you know my definition of perfect 489 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: at the time, But if you're putting in the best 490 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: that you have, if you're giving it all that you've got, 491 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 4: then really that's all that you can ask of yourself. 492 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: And so again on the judgment front, on the like 493 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: us being so hard on ourselves, to have some grace 494 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: and just like respect for the fact that you're willing 495 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: to show up and get it done and put in 496 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: that work. 497 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 5: Jesus, that is so important. 498 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 3: You know. 499 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I know a woman who says, I believe the phrases 500 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: all it takes is all you've got. 501 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard that before. I've heard 502 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: that before. 503 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 5: Here, heard that before. Let's round this out here. Twenty 504 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 5: twenty one. It's looming, it's coming. 505 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: Many people have high hopes we're all excited. If you 506 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 4: had to identify one thing that truly excites you about 507 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, Ali Feller, what is it? 508 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Endless possibility. 509 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: I have no idea what twenty twenty will look like, 510 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: And of course I say endless possibility, hoping and praying 511 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: for health, and I mean that for my family, for 512 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: my friends, for my community, for the entire world. Like 513 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: I of course, like all of us, want what's happening 514 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: in the world to turn a corner. And I don't 515 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: think that magically happens with the flip of a calendar. 516 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: But I know there are a lot of reasons to 517 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: be optimistic right now. And if you need some hit 518 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: me up, I'll you know. I'm happy to do what 519 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: I can to spread some optimism, even if it's in 520 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: the form of jokes. I know a couple jokes, But 521 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: for myself and my family, I'll just speak to us, 522 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: and that is I feel possibility. I have a like, funny, 523 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: hilarious two year old who sees the world with the 524 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: widest eyes every single day, and it's a good reminder 525 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: that I should try to do that as well. Like 526 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: she'll literally go from just sitting and coloring quietly to 527 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: standing up and having a full on dance party, and 528 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah, let's have a dance party, like 529 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: just little silly reminder that really help now more than ever. 530 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: And so I feel optimistic, just relentlessly, hopelessly optimistic. I 531 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: feel possibility. I am really excited on the career front. 532 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: I feel energized, and I know, you know, and I 533 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: hope none of this sounds totally like delusional. I'm very 534 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 1: aware of what's going on in the world, but for 535 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: the sake of this conversation, I will spare everyone all 536 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: of my thoughts and opinions. I just, you know, I 537 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: just hope that we can all go into twenty twenty 538 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: with a renewed sense of empathy and with kindness. Even 539 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: if you have to fake it till you make it, 540 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: I think let's all act with a lot of kindness. 541 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: And just my hope is that when we get to 542 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty one, we're not all saying 543 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I can't wait to flip the calendar. We're looking back 544 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: and saying, like, what made this year awesome? Instead of Oh, 545 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: let's get to twenty twenty two. 546 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: Ali, I am a hurdler and I don't yet listen 547 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 4: to the Ali on the Run show Crazy, Tell me 548 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: where do I find you? 549 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: How do I keep up with you? Give me all 550 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: the details. 551 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, we would love to have you for fun 552 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: and we're nice and we have a good time. The 553 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: Alli on the Run Show is everywhere that you listen 554 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: to podcasts, iTunes, Apple podcasts, Spotify, soundclouds, titch Er overcasts, 555 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: all of them. You can check out my website Alion 556 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: thereunblog dot com, Instagram, and Twitter is Ali on the 557 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Run one and if you're nice, the only rule is 558 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: that you have to be kind. But there is an 559 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: Ali on the Run Show Best Running Friends Facebook group 560 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: and it is all about like giving each other hugs 561 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: when you have a great run, talking about who has 562 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: found the best sports. 563 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: Bras and share them and lots. 564 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: And lots of puppy pictures. So if that's your jam, 565 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: come and join us. The only question you have to 566 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: answer is do you promise to be kind? And so 567 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you. We'd love to have you. 568 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: I love puppy pictures. Oh yeshon oh man, Who doesn't. 569 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: I am at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast, 570 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 4: Another Hurdle conquered. 571 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.