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Speaker 1: four or five one three is the number again. Gotta

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Speaker 1: go down to virgin I A and check in with

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Speaker 1: Sergeant James Kennedy. Sorry, you are on with Russ and

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Speaker 1: Paul as its sergeant in the police force or in

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Speaker 1: the military. In the military U S. Army retired as

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Speaker 1: of July issue. Take your for your service. I'm good Uh,

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Speaker 1: nice to talk to y'all and I appreciate y'all letting

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Speaker 1: me on the air. Thank you all for what y'all do. Um,

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00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: Russ and Paul, Uh yeah, a quick thing. Um, I

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Speaker 1: just want to get praise to the you know what

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00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: the Giants are doing now on giving up. And I

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00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: believe still believe in Eli no matter what nobody says.

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00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: He's the quarterback. UM. And the resilience of this team

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00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: is something else. The way they've been playing. I watched

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00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: that Chicago game and you know, watch the start off

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00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: real good and let them hold their own. If you know,

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Speaker 1: we can just keep that up, we're gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: And I love for one time, you know, in one game.

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Speaker 1: You know when sometimes these uh NFL network analysts talk about,

447
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Speaker 1: you know, how bad it is on the Giants or whatever,

448
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: but you know, give us a little little light, you know,

449
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: because they said we didn't have no chance of winning

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Speaker 1: this game. UM, and I just doing real great. UH

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Speaker 1: defense is catching up and Barkley is something else the

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Speaker 1: way that uh, I'm gonna say him in the line,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the offense to just you know, doing

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Speaker 1: what they have to do. You know, to me, they

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00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: look like a playoff team right now. But I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you something about Barkley sarge uh each and every week,

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Speaker 1: not not even I'll even say every day because guys

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Speaker 1: like myself and Paul get to see him, you know,

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Speaker 1: every day. I have I've said this before, I will

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Speaker 1: say it again. I have not seen a rookie in

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Speaker 1: any sport in this town anyway, in all my years

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Speaker 1: in the business come in with so just a guy

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Speaker 1: who gets it. I'll even include the captain Derek Jeter,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's high praise. Is so sure of himself.

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Speaker 1: He knows what to say, he knows how to act

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Speaker 1: off the field, he knows how to perform on the field.

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Speaker 1: This young man is the entire package. And if you

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Speaker 1: watch him with his teammates at this young age, he

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00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: is without question, one of the leaders on the team.

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Speaker 1: It's really remarkable to see. Yeah that, yeah, that is

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00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: so true russ Um. But as I said, if they

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Speaker 1: can just keep what they're doing the rest of the year,

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Speaker 1: and it's going with it. But they found what they

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Speaker 1: were missing, I think in the offense and defense, as

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Speaker 1: I said, catching up, they can just play, you know,

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Speaker 1: just like they're doing. Don't really messing touch it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but just you know, take out the

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Speaker 1: bad plays to the good. But um, I tell you,

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Speaker 1: I'm always a fan and I love, no matter what

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Speaker 1: you know, to see them guys progress. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to go to that Skins Skins Giants game when

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Speaker 1: they come to Washington on Sunday. On Sunday. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't care how I get there. If I have

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Speaker 1: to walk there from Richmond here, there could be a

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Speaker 1: storm coming in, so be careful. Now, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, uh, sergeant, Because honestly, when you look at

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00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: this team and you look at how they've improved since

488
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: the bye week, and you understand that the core of

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00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: this team has gotten a lot younger over the past

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Speaker 1: twelve months, and you also understand that Dave Gettlman has

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Speaker 1: a very aggressive, assertive and concrete plan for the kinds

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Speaker 1: of guys he wants on this roster moving forward. There

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Speaker 1: there's really no other way to look at it other

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Speaker 1: than to say the Giants are an improving club that

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Speaker 1: has a lot of reasons to be optimistic moving forward. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's true, and I like that saying goes with the

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Speaker 1: coach that had campus. They never give up, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I think the Giants are doing right now. There

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Speaker 1: is not giving up. They're playing hard, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of these teams, I think they don't really understand what

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00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: the Giants are doing. They thinking they supposed to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: y'all can score you want. And even with the Philly game,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought for sure we're gonna win that game.

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Speaker 1: But still, you know, I think Philly didn't know what

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Speaker 1: was coming when they got you know, got on that

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Speaker 1: deeld and seeing the way the Giants were playing. But

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Speaker 1: as as long as they keep they doing what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: I'm believing in as I said to Eli, had the

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Speaker 1: whole Giants organization, and I appreciate what George do. I

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Speaker 1: get offline? All right, So thanks for the calling Christmas

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Speaker 1: YouTube and call again, pal, call it. Thank you. Sergeant

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Speaker 1: James Kennedy from Virginia. What do you say? We go

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Speaker 1: to Connecticut and check in with Marco? Marco, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? You're on with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys,

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00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: how are you good? How are you doing? Hey? Good stuff? Today?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different things that are popping

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Speaker 1: up as I'm on hold that I would love to

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Speaker 1: talk about, but I'll stick to my points. I just

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Speaker 1: the one thing you said about Eli, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: agree so much with what's out there in the narrative

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Speaker 1: that some people tried to pace. But I will say

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Speaker 1: this going forward, I hope he realies the quarterback next year.

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Speaker 1: And the best way Paul and Russ, you know this

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Speaker 1: to eliminate any of cootsby or narratives is to just win.

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Speaker 1: Just win. As long as he wins, as long as

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Speaker 1: the team does, well, it's gonna it's gonna validate everything

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Speaker 1: that Shermer, Gentleman and ultimately Eli are doing. And you

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Speaker 1: can't and you can't defend that well, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm go Uh. The other thing you can

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Speaker 1: do besides win games here down the stretch, make sure

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Speaker 1: in the all season that you continue to fortify and

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Speaker 1: enhance that offensive line. That's the other thing you can do,

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Speaker 1: because then then they'll they'll keep winning right into that

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen season. You know, don't neglect the old line.

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Speaker 1: That's how they got into this mess in the first place. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I okay, see again, I can go with so many

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Speaker 1: different ways but that's I was talking to my brother

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Speaker 1: today about the draft and we were saying how we

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Speaker 1: would love to draft a great pass rusher first round

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Speaker 1: and then honestly every round after that. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if they they dedicated to the offensive line. Um here

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Speaker 1: here's what I want to talk about, speaking of the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Um, what what has changed? If you guys

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Speaker 1: could go in depth on this, what has changed lately

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Speaker 1: with Nate Solder? I noticed, Um, his plays improved. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a result of the entire line improving,

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Speaker 1: but you know, at times he he is out there

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Speaker 1: on an island. So as far as his play, what's changed?

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Speaker 1: Has there been? Um? A change with with coaching? As

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Speaker 1: far as his technique? Um? You know because I read

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Speaker 1: something recently that kind of I read something recently that

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Speaker 1: that picked me off to this that he is blocking

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Speaker 1: and doing things similarly that he did in New England.

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Speaker 1: However was different. Excuse me, that's been the case all

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Speaker 1: season long. Ahead let him finish though he I think

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Speaker 1: I know where he's going. Go ahead, Marco, he's doing

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Speaker 1: he's doing things similarly that he did in New England.

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Speaker 1: A big difference and that people have not talked about

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Speaker 1: where that and correctly, if I'm wrong, I think it

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Speaker 1: was like the the amount of steps, the drop steps

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Speaker 1: that Brady would take compared to what Eli was doing.

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Speaker 1: What what? I don't know, Marco, what what what we

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: were talking about and Paul and I discussed this quite

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Speaker 1: a few times, the difference with Brady. That's where I

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Speaker 1: thought you were going. The difference with Brady and Eli's certainly,

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Speaker 1: let's say Eli the first half of the season soldiers

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Speaker 1: playing the same way, but Brady would be able to

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Speaker 1: step up in the pocket if somebody was coming around

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Speaker 1: and there was room in the front of in the

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Speaker 1: pockets from to step up. The first half of the season,

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Speaker 1: there was no place for Eli to step up, or

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Speaker 1: when he did step up, he had somebody in his

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Speaker 1: face and he was getting knocked on his ass. Now

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Speaker 1: this room which you're asking what the difference is, there's

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Speaker 1: a cohesiveness. First of all, Pulley is now as center. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I certainly do think he's been part of it. That

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Speaker 1: that's out of it. Will her Nanzez is getting better.

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Speaker 1: Brown is a huge Jamon Brown is a huge improvement,

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Speaker 1: huge improvement. Answer, Thank you, Thank you for taking me

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Speaker 1: through that. And here's here's one more question I had.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see what you guys thought about this,

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Speaker 1: Uh Shermer. It's his offense, it's he and he's calling

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Speaker 1: the place. I wanted to know, just around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: how many UM coach head coaches are actually calling the offense.

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Speaker 1: I know Andy Reid does, and people usually point to

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Speaker 1: him first. Um. The reason I'm asking is I I'm

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Speaker 1: usually pulling a direction of where I don't want the

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Speaker 1: head coach calling the place. I don't. Okay, Now, so

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's obviously doable. But he's

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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: he's um, let's call him the first year head coach.

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Speaker 1: I know he's not, but whatever happened in Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: he's calling the place. UM, So who's still doing this

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Speaker 1: around the NFL? And do you think that's something that's

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Speaker 1: going to continue here? And do you think it's something

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00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: that could be sustainable? All right, thank you guys, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks Marco. Well you have you have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys like Sean Payton, you have McVeigh out with the Rams,

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Speaker 1: who does it. Bruce arians was doing it with the

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00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: Cardinals there for a while. He's now retired. Um, But yes,

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Speaker 1: there have been. Andy Reid certainly at times has done

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Speaker 1: it too. Um, he doesn't. Well, yeah, not always. There

602
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: were times where he didn't always do it, but over

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00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: his career he's done it for the most part. Um.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. In my opinion, the game is so complex,

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00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: there is so much going on. In my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: would prefer that the head coach does not call the place.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this forever. I said it before coach

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Speaker 1: McAdoo took the Giant job. I said it before coach

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Speaker 1: Shermour took the Giant job. And I'm not budgeting on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm old school. I think the head coach should not

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Speaker 1: call the plays period. Now there have been I think

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Speaker 1: the number right now is something like eight coaches in

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Speaker 1: the league that do it rus. I don't have the list,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I'm gonna try to get that list

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Speaker 1: for you for the next time I'm on the show.

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Speaker 1: And and there have been some guys who have been

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Speaker 1: successful at it. I understand that it is my preference

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Speaker 1: because I think more often than not, you will find

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Speaker 1: out that the guys who do call the plays do

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Speaker 1: not have as high a percentage of success. It's my opinion. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, so I can't respond to that. But

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Speaker 1: my problem to Russ is, I'm an old school guy

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Speaker 1: and I and I was brought up and I and

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00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: I cut my teeth under Bill Parcels and under Dan

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Speaker 1: Reeves and under Tom Coughlin. And these were guys who

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Speaker 1: are some of the greats of the greats they and

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Speaker 1: you said, oh school, Jim Lee Howe And alright, wise guy,

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00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: you are older than me, you know, just remember that. No, listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not I'm not going to say, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't like the head coach calling it. I listen.

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Speaker 1: If it works, it's great. Like to me, there's no

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Speaker 1: hard and fast rule. I think it can work for

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Speaker 1: some people. It doesn't work for other people. I I

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Speaker 1: just that's just the way I am. Here here's a

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Speaker 1: partial list. I found one on online. Jake Gruden in Washington. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien with detextions is another one who does. Sean Payton,

637
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Andy reid Um looks like uh. And Mike Mike Zimmer

638
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: with the Vikings. Is he doing it right now? I

639
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: don't know if he still is, but but so yeah,

640
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: there are there are some guys who have done it,

641
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: and in a given year, those guys might win a

642
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: bunch of games. But let me ask you this for us,

643
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: how many head coaches who called their own plays have

644
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl? Outside of Sean Payton, I'm not

645
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: sure there is another one. I mean, I don't know

646
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: how far we're going back. I mean, you're going back

647
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: to Lombardi. Well, no, but Lombarti then calls on place.

648
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what was going on then.

649
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and and and also I mean

650
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: he designed the playbook. But but but Starr was out there.

651
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: You don't have but that that again, So so you

652
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: have a quarterback call in the place. I mean you

653
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: had that going on, the world has changed. I don't

654
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: know if it's working or it's not. We just know

655
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: that you're getting old. That's all we know. Yeah, I

656
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Let's go to Jimmy in rose Hill. Jimmy,

657
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Buddy? You're on with Russia?

658
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: What's going on? Jim Well, first of all, if you

659
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: have you had Chase Edmonds in your fantasy league this weekend,

660
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: you scored two touchdowns for the Cardinals, anyway, I digress.

661
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Are you doing okay? All right? How are you? Um?

662
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: You know again, as somebody said earlier, is it there's

663
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: an awful lot to talk about. Um. But one of

664
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: the things I want to say right up the bat

665
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: again to you guys, into all your colleagues. What's great

666
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: about your station is a you can get through, which

667
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: is a big deal because you get we get us

668
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: people out of here. We get to talk to you

669
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: guys and and be be You can actually have a

670
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: reasonable conversation about the topic and the thing that we're

671
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: all the most interested in, which is the giants. If

672
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: you want soap opera, pick up the newspaper. You know

673
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: there was this guy today in the Daily News. The

674
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Daily News is under trouble, so I understand why you

675
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: have these headlines. But you know what, if you watch

676
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: the coaches press confidence, I know who this We know

677
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: who this columnist is because he makes his way on

678
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: TV as well. You recognize his voice. This guy's got

679
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: an agenda about Eli. He wants he wants Sherman to

680
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: come out and tell him and therefore tell the world

681
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: you know what his quarterback plans are. And right now

682
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: Sherman underfortunately you've given him this team and winning games.

683
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: They said to the guys yesterday. The stage that the

684
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Giants are in right now, Um, coming off more bad

685
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: seasons than good over the last five or six years.

686
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: You gain nothing by losing these games. You have to

687
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: win these games. And that's what Sherman is focused on.

688
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: And these people, whether it's this columnist or people who

689
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: are lamenting, oh, we're gonna move from five to twelve

690
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: if we lose this game, who cares? You gotta you

691
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: just gotta win. You gotta keep building this culture. And

692
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: you know what, if you don't get the five pick

693
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: and you're not in love with the quarterback, that you

694
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: can move back up at twelve. You know what, if

695
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: they decided to have a run on these on all

696
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: the on these three or four quarterbacks that people are

697
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: talking about, good defensive players, could drop down to them

698
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: at twelve, and you know what, they've got to eli

699
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: coming back next year if they don't draft the quarterback,

700
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: you've made improvements in your offensive line. You're gotta make

701
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: more improvements in your offensive line, because I know Ghettlman

702
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: is going to do that. And you know what, at twelve,

703
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: maybe we get that outstanding pass rushing. Maybe we get

704
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: that that cornerback that we need. I mean, this team

705
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: still needs a lot of things, but what it needs

706
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: more than anything, it's winds. They got to win, and

707
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: you've got to develop that that that culture of winning.

708
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'll get off and Paul, you let me

709
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. I mean, and I'm

710
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: glad that people are talking about it. I'll tell you this.

711
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: This this transformation of the offensive line as the next

712
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, It's it's a wonderful thing to watch. I

713
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: understand they're not finished, but I mean, Jesus, I mean, um,

714
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: you know the way these guys have played since the break,

715
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: it's like night and day. I mean, we all we've

716
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: talked about a couple of the guys, but but boy,

717
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing to watch. Well.

718
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: And I thought they did a I thought they were

719
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: the unspoken. Um. I mean, you guys have spoken about it,

720
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: but you can't read about it. Let's see it on TV.

721
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: They play a hell of a game, um, Sunday against

722
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: against a terrific defense with a lot of really good

723
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: football players. And I was telling the guys yesterday when

724
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: I called and I was actually making notes during the game.

725
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: There was a period of time between like the middle

726
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: of the first quarter into like right up until halftime

727
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: with the with the Barkley run, where I wrote down

728
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to myself because they were they were not playing well.

729
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Eli was getting rushed. Uh you know, Barkley had a

730
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: couple of nice runs, but for the most part from

731
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: that second period and the bars came on in the

732
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: bars rom of fourteen seven, I'm saying to myself, oh man,

733
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: And then they came out in the second half and

734
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: it was like they were a major, major contributor to

735
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: how that game ultimately unfolded. And um, all kudos to

736
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: him and um a poy. I just like to get

737
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, your thoughts, uh, you know on their play.

738
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about different players, but I think

739
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: that their players in general has been um just been

740
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: off the charts. I thought improvements, but they've been off

741
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: the charts. Yeah. I would say this, there's no question

742
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: that this fourth edition of the offensive line has been

743
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the best one, without without a doubt. I mean, and

744
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: anybody could see that even with their eyes half closed.

745
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: But I would also say this, not only is it

746
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: this addition or this collection of players, it's the maturity

747
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: of Will Hernandez, who has grown rapidly into a terrific

748
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: left guard from a prospect, He's now the real thing. Okay,

749
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: he's talking and it's great about it. The fact that

750
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: people aren't talking about him, you know, is indicative of

751
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: just he's out there just road grading, doing his job

752
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: and learning his craft. What It's an incredible uh maturity

753
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: to watch, right. So that's that's no, that that's that's

754
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. The other huge part of

755
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: it is the fact that Barkley has also grown into

756
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: some sense of of of jelling with this line because

757
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: he continues to amaze people over every week with his

758
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: runs and as he continues to do that behind the line,

759
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: because you've got to give him credit to he also

760
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: makes plays when there's nothing there. Let me ask you

761
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: a question, Paul, and while you're on the line with us. Uh, both,

762
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: both guys. Why has has Barkley changed? Is it just

763
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: because the offensive line is opening up? Let me hear

764
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: your answer, Paul, Well, it's it's Barkley's maturity. He now

765
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: is starting to trust the offensive line. That's the word boy,

766
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: if I had Russ, if you would ask me that

767
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: question first, that's that's not it. Trust these guys so

768
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: you can you know, the whole may not when you know,

769
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: having played, when the whole may not look there when

770
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: you first get your hands on the ball, except you

771
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: just trust that met next yard and a half, well, boom,

772
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: something's going to open up. And then this this just

773
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: unworldly talent takes over. But it all begins. He's trusting

774
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: the run call and and even though it's you know,

775
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: it may not appear to be there at the first

776
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: TIMI takes his hands off, and he takes the handoff.

777
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: He just trusts that it will be in. And that

778
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: next burst of energy and there's a and the toget it.

779
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: There's a there's a third component to this before you go,

780
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: and that is not only do you have this collection

781
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: of guys and the maturity of Hernandez, then you got

782
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: the Barkley thing with the trust and the third item,

783
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: the third item not to be ignored is the coach

784
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: now starts changing his play selection based on what he

785
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: believes those guys can get done. And now suddenly he's

786
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: opening up different parts of the playbook and they're calling

787
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: different styles of plays. They got Eli under center more,

788
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: they can call more play action and what does that do?

789
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: That makes the defense look at a wide variety of

790
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: plays and they've got to be more concerned about it

791
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: and they're on their heels. This is part of the

792
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: same deal. Thanks guys. One last thing before I go,

793
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: and and to add to that equation are the tight ends.

794
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: Let's not overlook no questions. And I had a couple

795
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: of penalties, but boy, he had a couple of huge,

796
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: huge blocks as well. It's a collective effort. And let's

797
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: not leave out you know, uh, you know, uh the

798
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: two tight Endellison and Simons. And thanks for the call, buddy,

799
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We just spot And then I

800
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: want to add something to this. Please you gotta gotta

801
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: do this right, No, you did already. I forgot what

802
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: you've been that I told you that age just started.

803
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: I want I just want him to go back if

804
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to go. I don't know if

805
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: you have NFL game Pass or if you DVR the

806
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: games or whatever the case may be. Just to give

807
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: you an example of will her Nandez and how far

808
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: he has come. There was a goal line play against

809
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay a couple of weeks ago where Hernandez as

810
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the left guard, Okay pulled out to the right side

811
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: and obliterated McCoy, who's one of the best defensive tackles

812
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: in football. The dude is a Pro Bowl caliber player.

813
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: He came out on a pull and wiped him out horizontally,

814
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: just boom pushed him about two and a half the

815
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: three yards horizontally out of his position. Excuse me, that's

816
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: what will her Nandez is And what happened. Barkley ran

817
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: right through that hole for a touchdown. Well, it was

818
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: beautiful again. You know, the coaches had said a couple

819
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: of things. Number one, uh, a running back needs to

820
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: have confidence and trust in the offensive line. That's one.

821
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: And we're not just talking about breaking big plays, but

822
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: the trust to know that. That's why they wanted They

823
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: wanted Barkley. I see, if you don't have trust, you're

824
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: not going right to the whole. You're doing a little

825
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: jitterbug and oh it's not there. So I want to

826
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: try and make something happen. And they were encouraging Quon

827
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: go get those three and four yards. You know, because

828
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: remember something at the first half of the season. I

829
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: don't even know what the number is now, but the

830
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: first half of the season he had more negative yard

831
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: rushes than anybody in the league. Think about it. We

832
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: had a superstar running back without a running game. All

833
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have a running game, which opens

834
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: up It's it's like simple math. You have a running game,

835
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: it opens up the the passing game, which allows you

836
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: to play action. And if you given ELI play action,

837
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you play into ELI strengths. It's as simple as that. Columbus, Ohio,

838
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: let's check in with Adam. Adam, you're on with Russ

839
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: and Paulie. How are you doing today? You guys from

840
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: doing well? Are you guys doing? What's going on at

841
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share a couple opinions on the

842
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: on the maybe the media, and then a little more

843
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: football pointed question. But I had read um from a

844
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: number of people, a number of tweets on the Giants

845
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: thread players about a speech that Odell gave a half

846
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: time that lifted the team and kind of rejuvenated everybody

847
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: and maybe gone to come back and win. And I

848
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: love the kid, I love his positivity, I love his

849
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: passion and all the intangibles, and all I could think

850
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: of is if you employ the reciprocal of that and

851
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: someone had said there was an argument with Odell at halftime,

852
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: there would be a feeding frenzy in the media. But

853
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: something you don't need to hear about. You're right, you're

854
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: a hunch. But you know what, Adam, if you're a

855
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: listener here and watch her, You've heard me say it

856
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: all the time. It goes in any sport. I always

857
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: would use a guy like Paul O'Neil with the Yankees

858
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: when he was playing. If you got a guy who's

859
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: fierce and throwing, kicking his feet or smacking his throwing

860
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: his bat down and you're winning and you're a good ballplayer,

861
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: they love that intensity. You know, if you're producing and

862
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: if you're having a bad gaming, you're striking out. See

863
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: that your fiery and that intensity got the best of you.

864
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: What's the same thing. You know when people have agendas

865
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: and you know, social media just adds to it. That's

866
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: what happens. It's you know, a similar note. I saw

867
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: uh Aaron Rodgers and Ben miss wide open guys in

868
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: the end zone. I watched Wentz last night. Um absolutely

869
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: throw a horrible interception in the end zone, and if

870
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: you are Manning does that, all of a sudden, it

871
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: evolves into a referendum on his career in the Hall

872
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: of Fame and where the Giants may have missed in

873
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: the draft. If one of these guys do it, it's

874
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: just kind of low. That's that's a great quarterback just

875
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: making a random the stake. That's just such a double standard.

876
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: It's frustrating to watch. Well, it's a double standard when

877
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: you have an agenda and and that Listen, there were

878
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: two what was um not this week? Last well? Well

879
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: this week they played Sunday night last week? Who did

880
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers play? It's the end of the game, and

881
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: and m Ben through a pass just over the middle.

882
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: They were they were going I think they were going

883
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: in for the tying touchdown. Who who they played? I'm

884
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: going through they were going in for the tying touchdown,

885
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: and and he through the past and it was intercepted

886
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: by a defensive lineman. Had any had Eli thrown that pass,

887
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: they would have wanted to run him out of town.

888
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: Todd and feathered Denver. They the last two games against

889
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: Denver and the Chargers. Yeah Denver, Yeah, yeah, I agree

890
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: with it's tough to watch. It's it's frustrating, but you know,

891
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Look, you win as a family,

892
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: you wined the teams. You know what's funny And I

893
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: don't want to waste your time on this, but I'm

894
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna say it quickly. Rothlisberger has had a better offensive

895
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: line with the Steelers over the last six years than

896
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: Eli has had with the Giants. What you're talking about,

897
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got regulably three Pro Bowlers on the line. Okay, exactly,

898
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: And so you know, even though Ben and Eli are

899
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: in the same draft class and basically they're the same age,

900
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: you don't hear about Ben being too old because he's

901
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: always had an offensive line and a really good running

902
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: game to help support him. But Eli doesn't have a

903
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: great offensive line, and he hasn't had a great run

904
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: a game to support him. And all ge Eli is

905
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: too old. He should think about getting out. It's it's

906
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: a joke. It's a joke. Somehow Eli's managed to only

907
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: miss one game over the exact same span of time, exactly.

908
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: But I know, I know. Let me let me shift

909
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: gears here to football. A couple of the immediately previous

910
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: callers touched on it a little bit. Will Hernandez in

911
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: the line doing well? Uh, It's fun to watch this

912
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: because it's it's almost like you're kind of seeing these

913
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: risky starts to bold and grow up, and it's encouraging

914
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: to see what's gonna happen in the years to come.

915
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: But when, um, when would the Giants. I don't know

916
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: what the timing is on this, or how it was

917
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: free agency signing and whatnot, but when would they take

918
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: a look at a little more seriously trying to extend

919
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: this guy Brown. Is that something they might try to

920
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: get a jump on before the rest of the league does,

921
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: or is that something that they can well, I don't Adam,

922
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Thanks for the call, buddy, we

923
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: got because I have a few minutes and I've got

924
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: to take a few other calls. They're not doing a

925
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: thing with him now, but I'm sure they're taking a

926
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: hard look, and I don't think you gotta be a

927
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: genius to figure out he has had a very profoundly

928
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: positive effect on the offensive line. He's a young guy,

929
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I believe, Paul, he's twenty four years old. I mean,

930
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna want him so I I would be I mean,

931
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: is the word shocked, I'd be surprised. I can't be

932
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: shocked anymore, that's the way the league is. But I

933
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: would certainly be surprised if Jimon Brown is not reupt

934
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't you be shocked? Okay? Yeah, I mean that's he's

935
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: just been too much of a positive effect. Let's go

936
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: up to Maine. Uh. Got a couple of more minutes there,

937
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: four or five. Check in with Jason. Hello, Jason, you're

938
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: on with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys, how are you doing?

939
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: How are you doing? But good? Hey? I just wanted

940
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Paul because he he

941
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: had this punter, he was bragging him up for a

942
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: long time, and now he's, you know, certainly come through,

943
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: hasn't he. Oh you mean Rosas the kicker? Yes? Yeah,

944
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: A lot to say about him before this year that

945
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: you really saw that much potential in him, and now

946
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: we're seeing it. Yeah. Riley Dixon, I can't take credit

947
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: for I can't take credit for him, but Figgles and

948
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: I were the two people who were back in Rosas

949
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: from the get go. So yeah, you're absolutely right. And

950
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: here's what I will say and thank you for for remembering.

951
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: The thing about Rosas is that when you watch him

952
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: at practice and when when we had the opportunity over

953
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: the course of the summer last year, and then obviously

954
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: when he came back this year in camp, when he

955
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: kicks the ball, it just explodes. I mean it really

956
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: rocks off his foot. That's why he made the team

957
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: when he made it, well, yeah, because he truly is.

958
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: He's a rare talent. You don't give up on guys

959
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: like that. It's up to your coaches and it's up

960
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: to him to mature and hone those skills because you

961
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: always got it in him. And a big thumbs up

962
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: to Rosas for bringing out the best in him. You

963
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: know what, you brought out a very good point though

964
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: before and that's not um, that's not the first time

965
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: something like that happened. If a guy, a young guy

966
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: comes up and and misses in a crucial situation and

967
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: wanted to sometimes he doesn't get a chance to get

968
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: out of dodge alive. Or sometimes you're in a kickoff

969
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: with somebody and you just miss a few field goals

970
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: and the other guy doesn't. If you're in training camp,

971
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So, Jason, I mean Rosas he has

972
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: been the real deal. And uh, like like I said,

973
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: he has been money or you know, cash it in

974
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: when he comes in and when you have a field

975
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: goal kicker like that. Hey, that's one less thing for

976
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: the coaches, the entire coaching staff to worry about. Thanks

977
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: for the call, Jason, gotta run. Let's go. Let's go

978
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: down to Florida. Check in with George. Hey, Judge, you're

979
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: on with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys, what's happening? What's

980
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: going on? Okay? I wanted to ask PAULI, Uh, do

981
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: you consider stowing Shephard actually as a as a boundary

982
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: receiver that that is a bigger threat in the passing game.

983
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Let's say like we used to have with Flexico and

984
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: uh a money tumor or even a money tumor and

985
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: Ron Dixon, Yeah, that's a blast from the pass, right,

986
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: do you remember back? Ron Dixon made his work really

987
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: as a kick retarter more than as a receiver. Of course,

988
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: the other problem, the other problem that he had, he

989
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: he had a broken alarm clock that would force him

990
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: to habitually be late for practice and somehow he could

991
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: never get his hands on a new one. I never

992
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: understood that. No, no, no, go ahead. What I'm saying

993
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: is when he was actually involved, the offense began to

994
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: pick up. You know, you know they were. They were

995
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: fearsome for like five games, including that San Francisco joke. Unfortunately.

996
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say back to my point

997
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: is it is Sterling Shepherd good enough to be the

998
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: possession guy opposite Odell on the other side with the

999
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: ingram tighten. The issue you have with putting Shepherd outside

1000
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: is as a slat guy, he can be a mismatch

1001
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: against many other teams third corners, okay, because he's that

1002
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: good of a route runner, and he's that quick, and

1003
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: he's that smart. He really understands his craft very well.

1004
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: And you also give him the opportunity to go both

1005
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: ways on the field. If you stick him out on

1006
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: the boundary, he can now be physically beaten up in

1007
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: a mismatch by another team's corner. So you're actually you're

1008
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: limiting his potential on a given play if you put

1009
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: him on the boundary. You know what, it's it's funny.

1010
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic that you brought up Sterling Shepherd

1011
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: because just before we got here, Paul and I were

1012
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: talking during lunch and we just started talking about different

1013
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: guys and we both immediately said the same thing about

1014
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd. Not only is he a very very good

1015
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: receiver at his position, but the ultimate team guy. He really,

1016
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: he is a terrific just a terrific team player. You know.

1017
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: And trust me when I tell you this, His coaches,

1018
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: his head coach really appreciates that, really appreciates that. That's awesome.

1019
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: But the only thing I'm trying to think about here

1020
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: is just like, do you remember remember when Plexico and

1021
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: Amani were out there and they were always there. Flexico

1022
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: is a deep threat. Amani was the possession guy with

1023
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: decent speed, and you know when we had Jeremy Shocki

1024
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: there as well. The offense clicked because the offensive line

1025
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: was able to you know, give him life time. And

1026
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: when he had Tick Barber, they were pretty explosive as

1027
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: an offense. Well, I'm just are we are we one

1028
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: piece away from being that explosive again? I think we're explosive.

1029
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: I just think it's a matter of and Georgia, we

1030
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: gotta run time is up call? Again? I think it's

1031
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: a matter of making sure that explosiveness continues to be consistent.

1032
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: They've just won three out of four, Okay, I mean

1033
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: it's just it's no secret. It has started with the

1034
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. Quarterback has times to throw the ball and

1035
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing consistent consistency in that part of

1036
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: the game. Anyway, that is indeed a rap on today.

1037
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: I want to thank our man handling the board today,

1038
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: Dan Salomone, uh Pauli Dots, I'm russe Alsburg. As always,

1039
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: thank you for being part of Big Blue Kickoff live

1040
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. I will be back here

1041
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: with you tomorrow. Until next time, it is bye bye,

1042
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: so long and farewell.