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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review. It was a dominant

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Speaker 2: And talking about that dominant run game, getting the weeds

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Speaker 3: And somebody's going home with this championship belt that is

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Speaker 3: coming up on the Booth Review.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth Review podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brad Weinstein with Big Fletch London Fletcher. We're brought

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Speaker 1: are in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio. That

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Speaker 1: is how you bounce back from a bad loss, London.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly how you bounce back. In what a way

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Speaker 3: to get the game started with that Deebo Samuel's big

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Speaker 3: kickoff return. Yeah, you want to get your fans in

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Speaker 3: the frenzy, give the offensive ball in great field position

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Speaker 3: and you go in. You punch it in, get the

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Speaker 3: get to touchdown right away to start start to get.

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Speaker 1: There were some kind of special teams flew around the

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Speaker 1: league yesterday. Everybody had it. I mean the Eagles game

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Speaker 1: return was topped by somebody. It was yesterday, So it

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Speaker 1: was a really weird day on special teams. But for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of people at one point were questioning, like,

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Speaker 3: why would you have Debo back there returning kicks? Considered

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Speaker 3: but you want to get your ball in your playmakers

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Speaker 3: as much as possible. And quite frankly, he's always retired kicks,

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Speaker 3: He's well suited for this new kick return format and

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Speaker 3: it was apparent with yesterday's return. Why he's in that position.

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Speaker 1: It's not a traditional play anymore. It's a play for

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Speaker 1: It's blocked, it's set up, no one's charged. It's not

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Speaker 1: It's a blocked play now, and he is a yards

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Speaker 3: They got it, they did, And I was last year

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Speaker 3: was just so many touchbacks that still took place. Making

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Speaker 4: I think they moved the kicker back.

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Speaker 3: As well, if I'm correct, to where now you're going

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Speaker 3: to get more returns and that's what that's what you

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Speaker 3: Oh, it just it ignites you you already amped up

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's how will he played yesterday or last week

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Speaker 1: Jason Johnson is texting us for eighties and nineties rap groups. Right,

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Speaker 1: He was mixing it up too. On the field, he

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Speaker 4: So you said he's mixing it up, so sir, mix

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, let me mix a lot. Their famous DJ

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Speaker 3: Now, how about this, for I noticed, is not nineties

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Speaker 4: Move. Yeah. So that was that was That was two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's that's the great thing about this game.

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Speaker 4: Whatever they may be.

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Speaker 3: This is how the game is going to be played,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to be playing in your backfield, behind

439
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Speaker 3: on the scrimmage, disrupting play, stopping a run, make your

440
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Speaker 3: quarterback feel uncomfortable, not giving your running back any holes

441
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Speaker 3: to run through, and he's gonna it's gonna be a

442
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Speaker 3: long day for you guys. Offensively, and that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: The defensive front, including linebackers, did an excellent job of yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So here's the one thing I want to see. I

445
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Speaker 1: cannot believe we're three games in. Don't have a takeaway.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking a lot last night after the

447
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Speaker 1: game that you were telling me kind of stylistically that

448
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Speaker 1: it doesn't lead to a lot of opportunities. So could

449
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Speaker 1: you kind of like tak me through this because I'm

450
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Speaker 1: sitting there watching this and what I remember is stylistically

451
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Speaker 1: this aggressive nature. In Dallas, they were a turnover machine

452
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Speaker 1: for a few years running. It hasn't come here yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a couple of different things that going

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Speaker 3: to that talk about Russian coverage kind of going hand

455
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Speaker 3: in hand helping the coverage. If the cover is great,

456
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Speaker 3: that that can lead to more sacks, If the pressure

457
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Speaker 3: is great, that can lead to more interceptions. Well, a

458
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Speaker 3: lot of it early in the especially in the first

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Speaker 3: couple of games. We're a ton of man and man coverage,

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Speaker 3: and we're playing a lot of press man a man,

461
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Speaker 3: So you got guys up in the face of the receivers.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a lot of vision on the quarterback,

463
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Speaker 3: eyes on the quarterback. But based on the guys we got,

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Speaker 3: they feel feel really good about us playing press man

465
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Speaker 3: and man. It's a lot more difficult to get interceptions

466
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Speaker 3: that way unless you get tips and overthrows, especially for

467
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Speaker 3: man and man coverage, because most of the time you're

468
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Speaker 3: gonna have your eyes on your man.

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Speaker 4: With when you go to the zone.

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Speaker 3: Aspect of playing coverage, now you've got eyes, more eyes

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Speaker 3: on the quarterback. But the thing is you have to

472
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Speaker 3: make sure you're getting a lot of pressure on the quarterback.

473
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Speaker 3: Force them to have inaccurate throws like the go back

474
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Speaker 3: to the Detroit game Jared Goff inaccurate throw, Kawhan Martin interception,

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Speaker 3: takes it, takes it to the house. So you're gonna

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Speaker 3: play more zone coverage, but you got that quarterback has

477
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Speaker 3: to feel consistent pressure. You maybe get some tips, some overthrows,

478
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Speaker 3: and now you got more guys with opportunities to come

479
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Speaker 3: away with pigs. As the Russia in the coverage continues

480
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Speaker 3: to work in better unison, the turnovers will come, especially

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Speaker 3: if we're playing more zone coverage, more eyes on the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: In order to play more zone coverage, though, you got

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Speaker 3: to get them into a lot more throwing, longer situations.

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Speaker 3: Third and let's call it probably six plus, ideally seven plus,

485
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Speaker 3: and we got the Raiders in a lot of those

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Speaker 3: situations yesterday and we're able to Geno didn't take as

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Speaker 3: many chances as he did when he threw like three

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Speaker 3: picks against the Chargers. Yeah, so the interceptions will come.

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Speaker 1: One other thing I just want to clean up from

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Speaker 1: last week that I want to hear you explain. So

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Speaker 1: after the Green Bay game, Joe Witt talked about I

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Speaker 1: disciplined needed to be better, right, And there were a

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Speaker 1: couple of moments yesterday. The first offensive play of the

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Speaker 1: game for the Raiders was a big, big explosive play

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Speaker 1: for Jacobe Myers. They did late when the game was

496
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Speaker 1: pretty much sealed up. They found Trey Tucker on a

497
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Speaker 1: deep pass and he scored. The result wasn't really in

498
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Speaker 1: play there. They don't want to see that happen, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't really see him play one. Did you think

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Speaker 1: the I discipline was better yesterday? And can you explain

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Speaker 1: what he meant because the media kept asking him and

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a clear explanation of what he meant

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Speaker 1: by that a week ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was better, But obviously the first play

506
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Speaker 3: of the game was not the way you want to start,

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Speaker 3: especially coming off that the performance that you had. I

508
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Speaker 3: guess the Green Bay Packers and from my discipline standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're a deep deep half safety, deep safety, what

510
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Speaker 3: a case may be, or you're a guy, a man

511
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Speaker 3: and man coverage your responsibility. If you're a pass first defender,

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Speaker 3: you played a pass first. You don't run up in

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Speaker 3: there trying to stop the wrong, making tackles for losses,

514
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Speaker 3: tackles at the line of screaming. You are a secondary

515
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Speaker 3: run defender, so first play ready to come out bootleg

516
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Speaker 3: your guys flying up, you know, you got to make

517
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Speaker 3: sure you know your responsibility and sure that it's a

518
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Speaker 3: run before you go up in there. From a eyes

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Speaker 3: on your work standpoint I discipline, especially if you're a

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Speaker 3: man to man, you have to make sure and ensure

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Speaker 3: that it's not a bootleg, it's not a play action.

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Speaker 4: You have to put your hands on your guy. Your

523
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Speaker 4: attention has to stay on him. Not a tough part.

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Speaker 3: Difficult part is you'll have your hands on him, but

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Speaker 3: you also may have a run gap that you have

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Speaker 3: to defend. And sometimes you want to get a little

527
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Speaker 3: too too anxious to get to that run gap and

528
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Speaker 3: you leave your tight end or your coverage trying to

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Speaker 3: stop the run, and then he slips out for a pass.

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Speaker 3: That's what he means by I discipline, being disciplined in

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Speaker 3: your eyes, and it's not just man coverage, his zone

532
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Speaker 3: coverage as well. Knowing what you're that you're looking at

533
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Speaker 3: the correct thing first and foremost and the correct person.

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Speaker 4: So I thought it was better the.

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Speaker 3: Late the last touchdown by Trey Tucker seems like there

536
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Speaker 3: was a little bit of a let's call it miscommunication

537
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Speaker 3: or Mikey thought if he looked like it was quarters coverage.

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Speaker 3: Mikey felt like he was probably gonna get a little

539
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Speaker 3: bit more inside help from the safety, but he needs

540
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Speaker 3: to still stay on top of the receiver, and I

541
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Speaker 3: think there was just a little bit of a little

542
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Speaker 3: bit of miscommunication thinking that they were gonna double that

543
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Speaker 3: receiver down the field. So still some things that needs

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Speaker 3: to be cleaned up, but you know, I'm sure they're

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Speaker 3: going to continue to work those things and eventually it'll

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Speaker 3: all come together.

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Speaker 1: Because he gives out the championship belt after wins, I

548
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Speaker 1: bet it's going to be a defensive player. So we'll revisit.

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Speaker 1: What do you think I'm a hover Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of candidates this week that's

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Speaker 1: this is actually a tough one. Because it's even if

552
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Speaker 1: you do pick a defensive player, there's a lot of

553
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Speaker 1: choices there, Pain, Wagner, Armstrong, there's a lot of choicest

554
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Speaker 1: Lane got a debo, Mariota. How about the McNichols run.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of yes, a lot of

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Speaker 1: choices here.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of choices. My job was hard, man.

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Speaker 3: I was up late last night trying to trying to

559
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Speaker 3: figure out Italian the ballot of us, who's gonna get

560
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Speaker 3: that belt?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to so we'll revisit the defense

562
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Speaker 1: in a little bit. Let's get Logan puls in it here.

563
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Speaker 1: It's time for Pulsa from Paulsa from the pine as.

564
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Speaker 1: We got to get into the offense a little bit

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Speaker 1: here from yesterday, which was I thought gonna be the

566
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Speaker 1: biggest question market the whole thing. We had Noah Brown

567
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Speaker 1: out right, Noah Brown out, John Bates out. So give

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Speaker 1: me just your general sense of what did you expect

569
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Speaker 1: them to do yesterday? And did you think it would

570
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Speaker 1: look like that from.

571
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Speaker 2: A tight end standpoint? Is then taking Colson, Yankov and

572
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Speaker 2: Benson at both physical tough guys but not necessarily inline

573
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Speaker 2: guys and saying how do we maximize them. We're going

574
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Speaker 2: to get them in space. We're going to use them

575
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Speaker 2: on these kind of zone read get on the corner safeties.

576
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Speaker 2: We're going to kick out from off the ball on

577
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Speaker 2: sifts and things like that. So I thought, in terms

578
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Speaker 2: of maximizing the tight end room without John Bates, it

579
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Speaker 2: was going to take an aggregate, and I thought Cliff

580
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Speaker 2: did a great job aggregating.

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Speaker 4: That's play aggregate.

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Speaker 2: I'm over here like so like so like you take,

583
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Speaker 2: you take a lot of different pieces and put them

584
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Speaker 2: in and you make a hole. It's like you make

585
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Speaker 2: a high Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So they ran for one hundred and seventy four yards

587
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Speaker 1: in the first half. It was the most by you know,

588
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Speaker 1: any Commander's team in like fifteen years. But I think

589
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Speaker 1: even more importantly this was the raid or strength of

590
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Speaker 1: their defense coming into the game. They'd given up what

591
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Speaker 1: was it, seventy yards per game to the Patriots and Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So we're sitting there, I'm walking in going are they

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Speaker 1: going to be able to throw the ball because I

594
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Speaker 1: think they're have a hard time running it, And Cliff

595
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Speaker 1: figured it out. So did this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is kind of kind of interesting, interesting

597
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Speaker 2: talking point here. So what I'd say is like when

598
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Speaker 2: you look at the run game, right, like the offensive

599
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Speaker 2: line I thought did a file, I'd give it like

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Speaker 2: a C plus B. Mind, it's like they were physical,

601
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Speaker 2: they were tough, they were smart, they got most of

602
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Speaker 2: the runs targeted correctly.

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Speaker 4: Right.

604
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Speaker 2: I think the other thing, too, is like Devin White,

605
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Speaker 2: for example, not a real downhill guy, kind of wants

606
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Speaker 2: to play over the top and scrape and make play

607
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: sideline a sideline. So running those duos earlier I thought

608
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: was a nice touch because he's kind of misfitting gaps

609
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Speaker 2: sea rods, like maximizing. But that gets me to the

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Speaker 2: second point. So while I thought the offensive line did

611
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Speaker 2: a great job kind of being physical, being competitive, I

612
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Speaker 2: think you got to give a lot of credit to

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Speaker 2: the backs. And so what I mean by that is

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Speaker 2: when you look at c Rod, like his ability to

615
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Speaker 2: set up the first duo, kind of press it front

616
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Speaker 2: side it, bounce it to the backside a gap.

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Speaker 4: Great job.

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Speaker 2: They run an outside zone where the combination gets a

619
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Speaker 2: little bit mired. He takes a really tight angle and

620
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Speaker 2: then the linebacker steps up. He brings it to the combination.

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Speaker 2: Then he bounces it to the perimeter. So a great

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Speaker 2: job by the back there. Bill Krosskimert had a bunch

623
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Speaker 2: where he's kind of setting guys up breaking tackles falling forward. Obviously,

624
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Speaker 2: the McNichols run breaks a ton of tackles. Debo breaks

625
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Speaker 2: a ton of tackles. So I really felt like there

626
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Speaker 2: were a couple free runners, like where the combination get

627
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Speaker 2: mired down or whatever and no one gets the linebacker

628
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Speaker 2: or the safety. And the backs really were the ones

629
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Speaker 2: that kind of said, hey, this is blocked for two,

630
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Speaker 2: but here's six for you. And I thought that was

631
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: so it's really everybody working together. But I think it

632
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: really is a testament to the creative nature of the

633
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: guys we have in the backfield at the moment.

634
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Speaker 3: Well, I want to I want to stay on the

635
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Speaker 3: offensive line. And I think Chris Paul played outstanding.

636
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Speaker 2: You had a great game.

637
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Speaker 4: He he he was, he was phenomenal.

638
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Speaker 3: I thought he was the best offensive lineman, you know,

639
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: pass blocking everything collectively in that game. And now he

640
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: was moving some people. He was he was kicking people's

641
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Speaker 3: out of people out of the club logan.

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Speaker 2: Well, so what I will say about Chris Paul I

643
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 2: agree with you, Like that's his superpower is that he's

644
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: crazy strong and he's crazy physical, and he's starting to

645
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: finally understand like angles on combinations, like how much of

646
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Speaker 2: the guy can take? Where's this guy going to be?

647
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Speaker 2: There's a couple though, where they again, like you've played

648
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Speaker 2: a lot of football, like the the three technique is

649
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: kind of holding his inside shoulder. The tackles trying to push,

650
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: they can't get to this backside backer. They're moving that right, Yeah,

651
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: but you know the linebacker scrapes over top and there's

652
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: a free runn in the hole, and so the back

653
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: presses it cuts underneath and maximizes their efforts there. That's

654
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm not saying that like they didn't.

655
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: I think I think people after this game like all

656
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy four yards like they must be

657
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: the second coming of the Hogs or whatever, and they

658
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: played well, right, But I think it's it's the aggregate

659
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: of saying, Hey, the backs played well. We got good

660
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: performances from Chris Paul Wiley played well. Connolly did some

661
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: really fantastic stuff in the run game, just like really

662
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: experience stuff run a combination, we got to run through

663
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: them getting down, you know what I mean. So it

664
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: was really the team, the team effort of making it

665
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: all work. And then I think Cliff deserves a ton

666
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: of credit too, because it's like, hey man, here's a

667
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: little zone reads. Let's take Crosby out of this because

668
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: we're reading him and we're getting to the perimeter. And

669
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: I thought just that it wasn't a ton but sprinkling

670
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: in enough of that to kind of yeah, fastballs, change

671
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: up sliders, here we go, try to hit it the

672
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: head a hard time with you.

673
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Know, in camp, they were talking about Chris Paul differently

674
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: than they had in previous summers. Like you had mentioned,

675
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: they always knew how strong he was. They talked about

676
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: that about him, how physical and it's just overall general strength.

677
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: What they described, at least to me when I talked

678
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: to him about it in the summer, was his versatility

679
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: had changed. Were you seeing that from him now that

680
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: he was on the field.

681
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you just see like Fletcher's talking about, like,

682
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, you can be big and strong, right, and

683
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: you can do things from a physicality standpoint that other

684
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: people can't do. But I think you have to understand

685
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: how to apply it. And that's what I saw from

686
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: him in the game. Right, here's a combination. I'm not

687
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: going to just like it is a simple and they're

688
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: running Awanda, it's so going to the offensive. Right, he's

689
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: a left guard. Old Chris Paul would have been short

690
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: on the three technique, would have tried to drive him down.

691
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: What to push it?

692
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Right into the play, he does a great job taking

693
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: a good step, get his hat to the place I number,

694
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: and just walking this dude off the ball. And so

695
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: he's walked people off the ball in the past, but

696
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: he's walked them off with bad hat placement where the

697
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: guy's falling in on the tackle. Now we've kind of

698
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: carved him out. We provide a cutback, like that's the

699
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: stuff I'm talking about. It's like, it's not you know,

700
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: I think watching him coming out of tu Lane? Is

701
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: that where he's from? Tu Lane?

702
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: Is that right?

703
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Tulsa? Something like that? Anyway, Tulsa, Tulsa, wherever he's from.

704
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: He he was so raw.

705
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: He was like a wild stallion, big, strong and fast,

706
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: but there was not a lot of technical refinement to him.

707
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: And over the last four years you just see that

708
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: coming more and more to the forefront of his game,

709
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: and yesterday and honestly throughout training camp, I think you

710
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: saw it, and so like there's a reason that we

711
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: were all talking about him that way and they mentioned versatility.

712
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: I just think he's more football specific in terms of

713
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: his execution on some of these techniques.

714
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Andrew Wiley also started at right guard.

715
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: What did you see from him yesterday?

716
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: I just think you see a guy that you fled.

717
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: You've talked about this. He's like good run blocker. He

718
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: is a good run blocker. He has got great foot

719
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: quickness to blocks right. He does an awesome job of

720
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: being like he's not gonna maul Like. It's a good

721
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: comparison Chris Paul and Wiley. Chris Paul's got a little

722
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: maller to him, right. You know, he's like three hundred

723
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: and twenty five, three hundred and thirty pounds, why looks

724
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: like he's three ten. But it's the Footspeed'd like, here,

725
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to use. My feet are on you, I'm

726
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: covering you up. I'm in position you're trying to get

727
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: off of me. And I'm so athletic that if my

728
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: hands are fit, I could work my hips and stay.

729
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: Covered up on you.

730
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to kind of use you to block yourself.

731
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: And he understands angles really well. He understands timing really well.

732
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he's played a lot of football, high level football,

733
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: and I think that's what you see from the fletch.

734
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: It's not like, oh my gosh, this guy's a he's

735
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: six eight three forty and he's just killing everybody. It's

736
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: like he just is a smart football player. And I

737
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: think he just raises the floor a little bit of

738
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: what you can do in the run game because of

739
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: that athletic dexterity he brings.

740
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to go back to the backs

741
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: too with you. For Chris Rodriguez, he waited a couple

742
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: weeks to get the opportunity. You know, I don't know

743
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: if he was disappointed or not to be in active

744
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: the first couple weeks. You'd have to ask him. They

745
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: will say, you know, he changed his body in the

746
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: off season. He was working with speed coaches. He had

747
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: told us in the summer that you know, last year,

748
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: of previous years, he could get up to about twenty

749
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: miles per hour a handful of times. No longer you're

750
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: seeing it real time out fast he's actually gotten and

751
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: with Bill, more and more and more you watch him,

752
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: the first guy misses almost every time to your point,

753
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: feels like he's setting people up.

754
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: His feel for the.

755
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Game is growing exponentially. Last week when they lost in

756
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay, had asked Dan Quick about the run game,

757
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: especially just amid Austin Eckler's not here any longer because

758
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: of the injury, and he said that, you know two things.

759
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: He said, One, we were way too one dimensionals. He

760
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of put it on them for the game plan.

761
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: But he said secondarily because I asked about Bill's going

762
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: to get more touches, right because of what happened here,

763
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: and he said he was ready for it. A week

764
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: ago we were two one dimensional so they're ready to

765
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: put more on his plate as well.

766
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think when you just watch him for a second,

767
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: like he's a tough tackle and he's a smart runner,

768
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: and I think, like all those things you're talking about,

769
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: and yeah, maybe he's getting more experience, but I don't know.

770
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: I have blocks for runners before that just make you right,

771
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: And that's incredibly liberating to know, like, hey, I'm not

772
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: in the perfect position here, Like I didn't like I'm

773
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: inserting on London bow. Fletcher's gonna win that block now

774
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: at ten times right, my hat's in the bad spot.

775
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: But if the bat kind of sets it up, presses

776
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: the outside shoulder, Fletcher is gonna play over the top

777
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be able to fit both hands. And

778
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: he's made me right now. And so instead of again

779
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: a three yard game, he's made the blocker better. Now

780
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: it's a six yard game. Fletch still gets the tackle right,

781
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: but instead of it happening right here, it happens a

782
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: little bit farther down the field. I think you see

783
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: his ability to feel that, and then the contact balance

784
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: with him has been something that has really jumped out

785
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: because again on film in college, you see his ability

786
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: to set stuff up, kind of ride the wave. He

787
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: had a duo which hit to the front side, there

788
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: were a combination that pushed it by he cut it

789
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: back all the way across the field. So the vision's

790
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: always been there, but the I think the lower half

791
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: strength is something that.

792
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: He's I mentioned on the broadcast. It was a run

793
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: where he played bigger than his size. He's five eleven

794
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: two oh eight and he ran He ran it like

795
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: he was a.

796
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: Pounds back. Another thing about so I.

797
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Got a question for you on that. So you've tackled

798
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: also different sizes of running back, right, and so some

799
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: people they say, oh he's two hundred five pounds, it's

800
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: not a big back. I feel like some of the

801
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: hardest backs that tackle are like that two hundred and

802
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: five two hundred and ten pound guy because they've got

803
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: a little wiggled to them. Also, it's not just like

804
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: the battering ram.

805
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: It's well, especially if it's coming in space. But in

806
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: terms of running backs, the key with any running backs

807
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: they're lower half. They have to strong lower half and

808
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, massive thighs or whatever. Contact balance as you mentioned,

809
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: and you play under behind your past, have good body

810
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: leverage and things like that body lane. He plays tougher

811
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: and bigger than his size. One thing I'll say about

812
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: him that I was impressed with and I have been

813
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: impressed with, is as a young guy, he has a

814
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: lot of patience as a running back. So you mentioned

815
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: a running back making you right where you don't have

816
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: to be perfect, So just being a little bit patient

817
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: a lot of times as a young guy, you want

818
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: to get any hit it one hundred miles an hour, Well,

819
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: sometimes you got to let those blocks develop, be a

820
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: little bit more patient and get a line back and

821
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: to jump out of his gap and and things like that.

822
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: And he he's come into the league with that type

823
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: of patience. The only other guy, not the only other guy,

824
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: but one guy that I remember being like that early

825
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: when I faced was a Ladani and Thomlinson. Now don't

826
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: get I don't go crazy and Sam saying he's little

827
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: Dana and Thomlinson, But I'm saying the patients that he

828
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 3: that Ladanian had, I see some of those similar patient

829
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: that similar patients he's.

830
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: Got tonson had a burst that was unusual. So when

831
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: he did make that cut, he was gone.

832
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the thing that I think also

833
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: to kind of and I don't even know if you

834
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: know I was gonna say this, but like he's patient,

835
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: but then he accelerates violently through the hole in the

836
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: way that is cool because you see patient runners and

837
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: you know they don't have it, but yeah, you got it.

838
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when it's there, it's there.

839
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Ladania Thomlinson had the zero to sixty that was really

840
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: changed him when he got open. I think you see

841
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: what Jamiir Gibs to when he makes a cut and

842
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: he goes, you get that zero to sixty speed.

843
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's a different that's a different animal.

844
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: Right.

845
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Marcus Mariota. So in the locker room,

846
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: when we talked to him after the game, I thought

847
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: he said something that I've heard him say before, but

848
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: it was re emphasized here. So he hand started a

849
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: game since twenty twenty two. He made a few appearances

850
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: last year for the team and had really good numbers,

851
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: and I think that's why there was confidence. And they were,

852
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, saying, we have two starting quarterbacks on this team.

853
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: We feel really confident with him. They talked openly about

854
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: how everybody sees how he puts the work in, so

855
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: they reward him with putting the work around him. I

856
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: think you saw that in the effort yesterday. But he

857
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: said something to us London that really stood out to me.

858
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: And he said, because the way things ended in Atlanta

859
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: were unusual for him, and then he had the backup

860
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia and then he came down here joined

861
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: Washington a year ago, he needed to rekindle the fun

862
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: of the game. And he said that again to us yesterday.

863
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: He said, when I'm having fun, I play really well.

864
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: And this offense seems to suit him. Cliff's scheme seems

865
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: to suit him. He's executing at an extremely high level.

866
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't think of a bad decision he made throughout

867
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: the course of the game. And he's having fun doing it,

868
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: and that seemingly is very important to him.

869
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a kids game. And you mentioned fun

870
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: this the NFL.

871
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: When you get to the National Football League, it's a

872
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: business and we understand that part of it, but it's

873
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 3: also the game that we grew up loving to play

874
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: and having fun. And for him, if you think about

875
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about superpowers, we'll go back to

876
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: when he was at Oregon and he won that Heisman Trophy.

877
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: What was he doing just out there making plays?

878
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: And Chip Kelly's office, ironically the zone readsed RP hole

879
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: to just out there having fun, making plays, kind of

880
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: off off off of schedule, on some things off script

881
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: a lot of times. And and he mentioned the offense

882
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: being suited to allow him to have fun.

883
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think again he'd better really solid performance.

884
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to take anything away from that, but

885
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: I think Cliff really called an outstanding game, like really

886
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: put him in a good position to be successful because

887
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: you go back and watch all the throws he's not

888
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: in like high leverage. Hey man, we're gonna sit back here,

889
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna call protections, we're gonna deal, We're gonna read

890
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: this coverage out every single time. It's like, no, bro,

891
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: Here's here's a couple quick screens, right, easy setups. Here's

892
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: some play action deep digs. The linebackers are tied to

893
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. We got really clear throwing windows or

894
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: playing single high. And I think understanding kind of how

895
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: to insulate a quarterback. Like even the protection plan I

896
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: thought was great, kind of insulating Connory taking some off

897
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: of his plate, just maximize what Mariota did. And so

898
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: you know, if you ask, if you able to ask

899
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: them to go out there and just be like, hey man,

900
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: here's fifty dropbacks, go win. It's this game. I'm not

901
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: sure that's the best way to go about it. But

902
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: here you kind of say, hey, we're gonna do some

903
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: zone read, We're gonna do some RPOs early, get you,

904
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: get you comfortable. Here's a little bit of quick game.

905
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: Here's some stuff that like formationally like with the jet motion,

906
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna run this. They're in zone coverage. We're gonna

907
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: run up fast to the flat. We run a quick

908
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: hitch the hook player vacates easy throws there on first down,

909
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: like just get on bases, right, we don't need to

910
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: hit home runs. And I think he's just when this

911
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: when the plan fits the player at a high level

912
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: and you've insulated him, especially having not done anything. That

913
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: was something we talked about not a lot in training

914
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: camp because the Achilles ten and night is.

915
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he barely practiced throughout the summer.

916
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just you could just tell they

917
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: called stuff he was comfortable with. They executed at a

918
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: high level. And the sequencing of plays I also thought

919
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: was excellent. So yeah, if you I have fun when

920
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable with the game plan, and you could tell

921
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: he was very, very comfortable the game.

922
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Cliff really earned his money this week, and that was

923
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: a that was an interesting hand he was dealt. You know,

924
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: you're changing two guards. Eckler's out, Bates us out, Noah

925
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Brown's out, Jaden's out, and all of a sudden you

926
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: got to walk in there and come up with the game.

927
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: You didn't really feel it though.

928
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: I didn't.

929
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: Ye though, now he did it, and that's that's they

930
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: They went in there and they the game plan. I

931
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: meant to again, the physical mindset. We're going to run

932
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: the football. We're gonna have three tight ends on the

933
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: on the on the field, a lot won't punt the

934
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: Raiders in the mouth, and we're gonna, like you say,

935
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: a quick game, some r PO, some zoies days like that.

936
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: It was a it was a tailor made offensive game

937
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: play to the guys that they had playing.

938
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: But I also think the other thing too, is he

939
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: called that he was able to call that game because

940
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: of how they were able to find explosive plays and

941
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: other avenues. Right, get an explosive kickoff return, you get

942
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: an explosive punt return. We're able to get points and

943
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: field position off of even even like Jalen Lane, like

944
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: the fifteen yard return here, the ten yard return there,

945
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: like those things.

946
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: People almost had a second. He almost broke a second.

947
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

948
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, is like your ability to

949
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: play that field position field position game and be an

950
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: advantageous looks the whole game. We don't need to be

951
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: super creative. We don't need to find explosive offensive chunks

952
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: as reticently, but they did. But they also had the

953
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: special teams to support it. You know, like, let's say

954
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: you need five explosives at a game, right, you get

955
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: two from special teams that lead to points directly right,

956
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: and then offensively you found three more. Right, there's the

957
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: exposive play to Terry, there's the explosive Pinnacles run, and

958
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: there's that explosive like deep incut that they ran that

959
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: they completed. Right, So there's five plays and it's all

960
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: nice as an offensive coordinator when you don't have to

961
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: worry about two of them.

962
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right.

963
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: I want to ask a big picture question to you guys,

964
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: like I live in two worlds, one with you guys

965
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: in the bubble to a degree, right, and then I

966
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: live outside of the bubble with the media, you know,

967
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: all the different media things that go on, right, And

968
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: I really think that this let considering what happened yesterday,

969
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: considering what happened the week before and what the week

970
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: was leading into it, that what ended up occurring yesterday

971
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: to me was finally putting twenty twenty four to bed

972
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: that it's been and and for good reason, an overarching

973
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: storyline of this whole thing leading into this season, you know,

974
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: because of what they did four and thirteen to twelve

975
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: and five, that quarterback, the culture that was built, all

976
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: the ownership putting all the money into it, the turnover

977
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: of the roster, the miraculous run that they made. Then

978
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: the schedule comes out and the NFL is confirming that

979
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: we think you're the team. Twenty twenty four has hung

980
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: over this group really throughout the entire thing, and I

981
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: think for good reason, Like can you back this up?

982
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Right throughout the summer, it was a prevailing storyline, and

983
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: after Week two, like I think we all found out

984
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: we're not in Kansas anymore, like you know, like this

985
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: is really a new team in a new year. This

986
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: week was everything to me. What is this team going

987
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: to be about? Not last year's team anymore? What is

988
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: this team going to be about? And what they did

989
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: yesterday I think ended the discussion of what twenty twenty

990
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: four was and gets us focused on what twenty twenty

991
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: five can be.

992
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: Do you think so?

993
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: I think the team put twenty twenty four in the

994
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 3: back barner a long time ago. They did, but it's

995
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: going to coaches.

996
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: The people like us that talk about it.

997
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe yeah, so we need to move on. We

998
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: need to move off. They moved off, and I think

999
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: there's going to be so much more. You still got

1000
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: so much more.

1001
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 3: Football left, yes the season, and the media is still

1002
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: going to bring up twenty twenty five, twenty four.

1003
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I think a different less of it now, that's after

1004
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: what happened this week.

1005
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: Knock on wood. I'm so maybe this is the old

1006
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: the old ballplayer in me, Fletched, But I agree hundred

1007
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: percent with you because I'm like, if they lose, if

1008
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: they lose a bad game to La or Atlanta, excuse me,

1009
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what where's all the magic? Where's the

1010
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: It's like this, you got to win.

1011
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: Again, they don't game, somebody's going to continue to talk

1012
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: about something because there's going to be some narrative leading

1013
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: it to that game that that makes twenty twenty four relevant.

1014
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: It's as a storyline.

1015
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: They beat they beat Atlanta last year, and here it

1016
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: is and and so again, like I think I think

1017
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: that's probably the player in me, maybe in us where

1018
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: and I don't want to speak for Fletch, but I'm

1019
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: always like, it's the next one, and there's still the

1020
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: history is still there, the conversation is still going to

1021
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: be there. And I think that's what dan Quinn has

1022
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: done such a great job of is like we can

1023
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: talk about whatever we want to talk about and it

1024
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: is still relevant to the discussion if you're on this

1025
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: side of the fence, right But when you're on that

1026
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: side of the fence, it's like, we got to be

1027
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: where our feet are. We got to take care of

1028
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: our work right now. And I think that's what this

1029
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: team has done a great job. Like it's so fun

1030
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: doing the game Plan Show with dan Quinn because if

1031
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: you ask him any question about looking back or looking forward,

1032
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: he just won't answer it. He's like, I haven't thought

1033
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: about it because I don't care about that. I care

1034
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: about this right now, in this moment, and so as

1035
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: much as maybe you feel better about it, like yeah,

1036
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: as a player, I don't.

1037
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: Feel better about it right right.

1038
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: But I'll give you an example. Last week, Joe Witt

1039
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: did his weekly press conference. Joe Witt was asked about

1040
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: something for twenty twenty four. He said, I don't talk

1041
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty four any more. Two questions later, he

1042
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: was asked about something that wasn't about twenty twenty four,

1043
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: and he brought up twenty twenty four any and he

1044
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: said to the reporter, he goes, Ben standing, he goes,

1045
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: I apologize. I told you I don't talk about that,

1046
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and here I am talking about that. You know, the

1047
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: reality is like we get to tell their story. It's

1048
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: a privilege to do that through the course of their games.

1049
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Ours our job not to pretend that the whole story

1050
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: isn't happening. And I'm telling you, as a media narrative,

1051
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: up until this point, twenty twenty four was. I feel like,

1052
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: off of what happened a week ago in Green Bay

1053
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: to what happened as a bounce back yesterday, it's finally

1054
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: I think the moment where everyone's going to realize this

1055
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: year is different, whether the players want to ignore twenty

1056
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: twenty four or not or try to dictate a narrative

1057
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: which they never can with the media.

1058
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 4: So let me ask you.

1059
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: This team goes on a five six seven game win streak, Right,

1060
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: you don't think twenty twenty four is not gonna be missed.

1061
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: Well, you don't think they're gon asked about twenty twenty four.

1062
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask this then, do they ask the

1063
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Ravens or the Bills or the Eagles who are in

1064
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs a lot about previous years. It's different with

1065
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: this team is they haven't done it in a while.

1066
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: Each team becomes its own separate entity. Until Washington does

1067
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: this year after year, they're going to have to live

1068
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: with what I felt was a cloud over them of

1069
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: the accomplishment. This was the week I think you does

1070
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: no question.

1071
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: You just said they're not going to He basically said

1072
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: they're not gonna lead twenty twenty four.

1073
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: If I think they can off of this week, this

1074
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: was the week that I think that they can.

1075
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: The players have left it. Yeah.

1076
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying, from a media standpoint, go on a

1077
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: five six, seven game win streak, you're all of a sudden,

1078
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what would make a record nine and one,

1079
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: AID one, AID and two, whatever the case may be.

1080
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: You don't think they're not gonna be storagemen like, man,

1081
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: can this team repeat? Going back to the NC Championship game,

1082
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: this is a team that can challenge the Eagle they

1083
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Speaker 3: took them to. They're going to be more stories from

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00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four that comes up. They just that's just

1085
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: how it goes.

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Speaker 2: I think you answered this question though, because you said, oh,

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00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: they don't talk about it with the Bills, they don't

1088
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: talk about it with the Ravens, they don't talk about

1089
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: it with the Chiefs, right, And it's because there's a

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00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: history of doing it right. And so to me, a

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00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: history of doing it would be let's build a history,

1092
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: let's build a culture for here. And I think, like,

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00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: to me, I understand what you're saying. I understand, I

1094
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: understand your perspective. But to me, it's gonna take this season,

1095
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: yeah to a race too, thought, it's gonna foundation you

1096
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: gotta do something this year.

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Speaker 1: We gotta do something where you got the earned expectations,

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00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: you actually lived up to them to whatever degree that

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Speaker 1: looks like, which is getting to the playoffs and getting

1100
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Speaker 1: you know, and then circumstances dictate what is the Lions

1101
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: were missing half their defense when they played Washington in

1102
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And but the Lions are even a good

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00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: example of this a few years ago when they had

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Speaker 1: their first kind of breakout year finally and then they

1105
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: had to back it up live with all the expectations,

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Speaker 1: got all the night games, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they did But so maybe we are still a little

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00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: ways away from it. For me, this past week, what

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00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: they did yesterday told me everything about what this team

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00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: is about, not the previous one. What this team is about.

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00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: So for you, I like that. I like that you

1112
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: say it for you. So now you feel like you

1113
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: moved on. We moved on. This is a totally different team.

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00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.

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00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: I need you to make your media guys realize that

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00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: your media buddy, because I'm not media brod your media.

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00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not. I love I love this.

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00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not media. While talking into a microphone on a

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00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: show that's disseminated as.

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Speaker 4: Media, I'm a guy just talking for football.

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Speaker 1: I got all right, let's get back to the Game's

1122
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: time to hand out the belt Big Fletchers Heavyweight Championship Belt.

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Speaker 2: Second, I think Jason has something special for you and

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00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: something special for you.

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Speaker 4: We had a surprise. Yes, let's see what Jans got

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Speaker 4: going on.

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00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 5: It's time for the Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Championship. Introducing

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Speaker 5: the challenger Bobby Wagner and the reigning defending undisputed Big

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Speaker 5: Fletch Commander Heavyweight Champion.

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Dron Pain.

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00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 4: We are stepping up, man. We have stepped up our

1132
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: We have stepped it up.

1133
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: So as you can tell by the intro, we do

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00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: have two defensive players fight it out for the belt.

1135
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 3: And there was there was a lot of candidates. I

1136
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: thought Mariolda was a he could have been a candidate.

1137
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: And candidate Debo, Jayden Lane, Nick Nichols McNichols, shoot uh,

1138
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: Doris Armstrong. He had, he had a nice ship, He

1139
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: had a heck of a game. But as I mentioned,

1140
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 3: two guys, you so pain. He had the belt.

1141
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: He got it from the win against the New York Giants,

1142
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: and we only get this belt out after wins. Excuse me.

1143
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: So Payne was the defending champion, Bobby came in, he's

1144
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: the contender. Let me let me, let me let you

1145
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: know what the champion did the Ryn Payne had a

1146
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: monster game. Six total tackles, four solos, one TfL, one

1147
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: QB hit.

1148
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: But it's just impact on the game. Like you felt

1149
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: his presence all game long, his energy, you know what

1150
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean.

1151
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: His energy, the House of pain. Big Daddy Paine was

1152
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: on full display yesterday.

1153
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: My god old.

1154
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: Future gold jacket. Bobby Wagner eleven total tackles, six of

1155
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: them solo, tackles. Yes, wow, six solos, two sacks, two TfL,

1156
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: three quarterback hits. He's currently thirty in the NFL International

1157
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: Football League in tackles with thirty two, He's making a

1158
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: strong case this is all this is like that match

1159
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: Canelo and Crawford, that type of build up, that's that

1160
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: type of moment Canelo comes. He that's a champion. Crawford

1161
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: is a challenger. Pery was a champion. Wagged there's the

1162
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 3: challenger and no big fletchers command as heavyweight champion. Belt

1163
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: ghost too, Bobby Wagner.

1164
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: I knew that was gonna happen. I knew that was

1165
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: gonna happen from the second you introduced it.

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00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: Why now that you made this all this production, Jason,

1167
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: do you have anything in the budget to get Michael

1168
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Buffer in here? Because that's what we need now.

1169
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: So let me you guys, how do you feel about

1170
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 4: the belt? Who I gave it to? Bobby?

1171
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: Are you?

1172
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: I think it's if y'all got other you got other

1173
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 4: guys chime in on it.

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00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: I think you couldn't go wrong with a number of

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00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the people yesterday, But you are missing a name that

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00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a contender for this spell is that a big

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00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: name that you missed for a contender for the spelt?

1178
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn? No, dan Quinn, who got bloodied in the game,

1179
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: but he got run over, hit his head, teammates were

1180
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: wiping blood off his nose, comes out and does a

1181
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: halftime interview on the television broadcast, says I'm fine, joins

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00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: us in the locker room and is like, I don't

1183
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about me at all. I'm ready to go,

1184
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: And he ended the interview with, go take a lot

1185
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: more than that to keep me away from where we're going.

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00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: So dan Quinn, I think should have been a contender

1187
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: for that belt.

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 4: You know what, You're right, d Q was a contender.

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00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: She should have been.

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Speaker 3: Hindsight, Hey, hats off to the cut guy. But I said, DQ,

1191
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: he should have left the blood just right there, just dripping,

1192
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: just running down his face.

1193
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't have like it was Buddy in

1194
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: the post game too. The only thing I'd say is

1195
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: it's usually it's hard to beat the what is it, incumbent? Yeah,

1196
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: the champion the champion, right, And I'm great he played

1197
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: did he? I thought he played well off to maybe

1198
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: defend to maintain it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was a draw. It was a draw.

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: But but I know, but Bobby had two sacks.

1201
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: Ye had two sacks, and he had he had another

1202
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: pressure gino like eleven tackles. Man, and those tackles were

1203
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 3: at or near a line of scrimmage or some cases

1204
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: behind the line.

1205
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: Would you be happy with that performance if you played linebacker?

1206
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: Two sacks?

1207
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, would be hit.

1208
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: What's your how many?

1209
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: How many secks do you having a game?

1210
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: What's your I've had I've had two in a game before.

1211
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: How many? What's your like most single tackle games?

1212
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 4: Take a tackle game?

1213
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking like fifteen or something.

1214
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: Come on, man, let's be this big fletch twenty uh

1215
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: what twenty one? S twenty one?

1216
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: You're looking that up? I'm looking that up. That's true.

1217
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: Did I tell you that multiple twenty time? Did I

1218
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 4: tell you my story?

1219
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: Did I tell you? Should I tell you the story

1220
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: about about Fred Jason? So we're in here talking the

1221
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: other day and and Fred's like, you know, one one

1222
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: year I played with Bruce Smith and blah blah blah

1223
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: blah blah, this stuff's going on. He goes, I had

1224
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: ninety tackles in a season. Look it up, you know

1225
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: how thirty.

1226
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 4: In college. Now, in college, I had a twenty nine

1227
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: tackle game twenty nine.

1228
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: But in the pros, my my career high those are

1229
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 2: So you're saying solo twenty one tackle.

1230
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not We'll combined, don'tkay. But that's

1231
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: so my career probably solo solo tackles in the game,

1232
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: probably fifteen.

1233
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: He told us yesterday, how many punt returns did you

1234
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: return for? You said that after Jaalen they returned. You're like,

1235
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: I've returned punts for touchdown. I had a kick kickoff college. Yeah,

1236
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: I had a kickoff return for a test it against Union.

1237
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: You just no, No, I was messing. I was messing

1238
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: with the yard.

1239
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Gard So but the thing is, you, guys, the surprise

1240
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: that you no surprise when I when I tell you, guys,

1241
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: these accomplishments I've had, Jason, I'm more more overwhelmed with

1242
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: the surprise. Like I'm not fras Mood. I'm not known

1243
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: as a liar.

1244
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: Like linebackers don't typically return kickoff.

1245
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 4: That's why I was a four lineback is also on

1246
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: World four three? Are you, Jason? What do we got? Okay,

1247
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: So your tackles in the game just football nine. John Carroll.

1248
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god. All right, but in the UNFL September twenty.

1249
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: You had.

1250
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: Who as a member of the Rams instead of Bills Rams.

1251
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: I had to I had two twenty tackle games here, yeah,

1252
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: stop really as an old man, that's.

1253
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: We're getting you the championship Hall of Famer right here.

1254
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and here's here's a d here's another thing.

1255
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: Since we all kickoff retires, and y'all can fact check this,

1256
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: you realize I retire kicks in the in the pros too?

1257
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: Really when in uh in Saint Louis, Saint Louis.

1258
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 4: And Buffalo, I have twelve kickoff returns in the pros.

1259
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: Dude, you're a bad man. Bro, you're a bad man.

1260
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: So Fri Smood, I've never done that. He's never done

1261
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: that either, I mean, but it's not all about me.

1262
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: You almost had more tackles.

1263
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Bobby red Smooth, though not ashamed of being at

1264
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: the media at all, exactly zero shame.

1265
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: So you had more tackles than Fred in one game

1266
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: than Fred had a season.

1267
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: Look returns, No, that's one season. That was one season.

1268
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: I got twelve total.

1269
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: Yes, that was yes, that was what were the up back?

1270
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 4: Twelve returns.

1271
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Career.

1272
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 4: Are you the up back? No, man, I was, I was.

1273
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 4: You were back there, yeah, kind of a back. So

1274
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: it was uh.

1275
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: So we had most of the time we would have

1276
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: one return guy and then I'd be kind of offset.

1277
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 4: Wasn't part of the wedge if there were kicks he

1278
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 4: couldn't get to. Hey, you're the off returner. Yeah, I'm

1279
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 4: off Returner's not truly off returner. But yeah, we had guys. Hey,

1280
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: we rather kick of the to him.

1281
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: Londa think, Okay, he's a linebacker as opposed to our

1282
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: kickoff returnament. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna get that ball

1283
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: out to the thirty four US.

1284
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's played quarterback in three games of the NFL.

1285
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: I did not.

1286
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: All Right, everybody, that'll do it for this edition of

1287
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: the review. We'll see you next week after the Falcons

1288
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: game Booth. Review was filmed at the Big Bear AI

1289
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,080
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01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: for a rapidly evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: and its fans.