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Speaker 3: Off by a Meek Robertson. Good night to the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. The call there from Joe Buck on the ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love threw three interceptions, including that final pass picked

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Speaker 3: That's a good I've said it before in the show

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Speaker 3: Hans is here, Greg Rosenthal there, Greggy, this was I'll

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Speaker 3: remember this game for Max Crosby, going ham and just

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm like trying to decide whether I start

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Speaker 4: a bad Raiders era. I don't see it getting better.

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Speaker 4: This win didn't change my mind there now two and three.

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Speaker 4: To me, they're a team destined for between five and

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Speaker 4: you have DeVante Adams too, but he is the player

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Speaker 4: It was a sack four tackles for loss, which is

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Speaker 4: Is this a good game? Is this bag game? I

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Speaker 4: but Max Crosby was truly great, and I think he

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Speaker 3: Chuck, Please thank you, Brent. Yeah, he's the heart and

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Speaker 3: Correction, Michael Mayer was a second round pick in the

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Speaker 4: I mean, that would be a dark moment. I guess,

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Speaker 3: And I mean, there's what do you take out of

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Speaker 4: I'm getting a little concerned. I think the last two

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Speaker 4: All it was was like a couple like rollouts and

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Speaker 4: there was an interception, Like he just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: He was scrambled looking at the defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He finished sixteen to thirty one, two no touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's a normal rookie or like young

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Speaker 4: I think the Raiders defense kind of showed tonight. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Oh I like that. Yeah. I think another thing maybe

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Speaker 3: that's a disappointing loss for the Packers. And you know,

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Speaker 4: At one point it looked like it was going to

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Speaker 4: You know that this Packers seem unless they change, and

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Speaker 4: That's my last point of this game was that dude's

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Speaker 3: And this one's for the frustrated Packers fans. My final

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing got Troy laughing. I always

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's never good. And then you know it's also

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Speaker 4: They both deserve to be two and three, So I

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Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot. So that's Monday Night Football, and

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Speaker 1: We almost got a bird to catch. Not quite.

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Speaker 4: a bird, So I shouldn't even point that out.

436
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Speaker 1: We do.

437
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Speaker 3: And if you're wondering, where's Mark Sessler, Mark is at

438
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: the Dodgers game right now with Frank Week.

439
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Speaker 1: He's got a big week this week, Mark Sessler.

440
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: You know, he had a little bit of a late

441
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Speaker 3: heads up and I'm not going to be doing the

442
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Speaker 3: show tonight, some type of thing about a miscommunication. I

443
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: don't know if we bought it or not. Greg, But

444
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: it's okay. He's got a big birthday tomorrow. You know

445
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 3: that That was like I wasn't even I didn't even

446
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't even give him pretend grief, let

447
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: alone real grief, because it's like, you know what, baby

448
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: boy's got a big, big day tomorrow.

449
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 4: He can do whatever he wants. Although you're giving him

450
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Speaker 4: a little grief right now.

451
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Speaker 3: Is this is love? This is love. I'm happy that

452
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Speaker 3: he's not doing. I'm happy Mark of all people who

453
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: is no fan of the Raiders.

454
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or baseball for that matter.

455
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Well yeah, so he had to choose, I guess between

456
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Speaker 3: the Raiders and baseball, and he chose baseball. So the

457
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: national pastime gets a w there.

458
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Speaker 1: I love a little live baseball playoffs.

459
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: That live baseball is much different than TV baseball.

460
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: Right, well, thank you for validating baseball in the live setting.

461
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 3: I love watching baseball on the couch as well. But listen,

462
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm not asdvanced as you don't. I don't understand me.

463
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Speaker 4: Ya all like different things. It's it's fine. I'm just

464
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Speaker 4: saying you could. It doesn't matter what age, no matter

465
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Speaker 4: where I am, who the teams are, I'll go watch

466
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Speaker 4: a live baseball game.

467
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Speaker 1: I watch game.

468
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Speaker 4: I watched the semi pro game in Massachusetts. I watched

469
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Speaker 4: four games in Tokyo. I was going to the baseball steam.

470
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Speaker 3: Look at you, look at you. All right, let's get

471
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Speaker 3: to it.

472
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Speaker 1: News.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with this is not surprising. This is not

474
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Speaker 3: good news, but it's not the worst news. Shane Steichen,

475
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: Cult's head coach, said Anthony richardson the injury plagued rookie

476
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: quarterback will miss quote sometime with a sprained ac joint.

477
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Speaker 3: I think Greg correct me if I'm wrong. There's a

478
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Speaker 3: report out there that he'll be heading to injured reserve.

479
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Speaker 4: Not just a report, but a report from our guy,

480
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Speaker 4: Ian Rapoport, right.

481
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Speaker 3: Which which will take him out. You know what, I

482
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: still struggle with this. They what are they change now?

483
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Speaker 3: It's four games at least the IR designation.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ian added some context that it might be

485
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Speaker 4: through their by which I believe would be five games

486
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Speaker 4: plus a bye, So he he thought it would be

487
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Speaker 4: extra time. And he's reporting this exclusively. Nice job by

488
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Speaker 4: raps she because no one else seem to know what

489
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: the timeline was. But he sounds like he's got a

490
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Speaker 4: pretty good idea that he might be out through the

491
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Speaker 4: by which I believe would be five games.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's you know, I said it on the

493
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Speaker 3: show on Sunday. The way he came off the field.

494
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: You had Derek Carr not miss a start with the

495
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: same injury, but this is a different You could tell

496
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: it was a different level of this injury, and it

497
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: was something you were not going to see him this

498
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Speaker 3: upcoming week. And sure enough, this is something where you

499
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Speaker 3: it might be a month and a half where he's

500
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Speaker 3: out of the lineup, and you know, hopefully, first of all,

501
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: the Cults are in the thickest things in the AFC South,

502
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Speaker 3: and they have a luxury in one of the best backups,

503
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Speaker 3: if not the best backup quarterback in the league and

504
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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew. So I think they'll continue to keep their

505
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Speaker 3: head above water. But this year is about largely Richardson

506
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: and him really settling in is the face of the franchise,

507
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Speaker 3: and you just hope when he does get back on

508
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: the field, you know he puts he puts it behind

509
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Speaker 3: him because it's been a hillacious start in terms of health.

510
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: In other news, Kevin trying to.

511
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Speaker 4: Give you the schedule, by the way, yes, Cleveland, you know,

512
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: because it's five weeks. By the way, he wouldn't be

513
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 4: back until November twenty sixth. We'll be done with Chris Thanksgiving.

514
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 4: Like five weeks doesn't sound like much, but we'll be

515
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: past Thanksgiving.

516
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: He'll be ready for when the season truly starts. It

517
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Speaker 3: checks out at.

518
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Speaker 4: Week twelve at Jacksonville, then home for the Browns and

519
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: the Saints. That's a tough three games slate to start out.

520
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 4: They'll be underdogs probably in all three Saints is kind

521
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 4: of a pick them, and then at Carolina and Patriots

522
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 4: right now, two of the worst teams in the league.

523
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Speaker 4: If you can go two and three there, you're five

524
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Speaker 4: hundred coming out of the by and at least Anthony

525
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Speaker 4: Richardson is returning for some meaningful games.

526
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Speaker 3: I think call it a prediction. I think they're gonna

527
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Speaker 3: be okay. I think they will be in the mix

528
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Speaker 3: when Richardson re emerges, because I think this team has

529
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Speaker 3: got something going on, and if Jonathan Taylor can find

530
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Speaker 3: his footing, he could help cover up for Richardson's absence.

531
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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of the Vikings, following their

532
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Speaker 3: loss on Sunday UH, in which Justin Jefferson exited the

533
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Speaker 3: game with a hamstring injury. UH. He was a little

534
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Speaker 3: kg about it on Sunday after the game and on

535
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Speaker 3: Monday in comments to reporters, it sound like they're gonna

536
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Speaker 3: they're gonna be careful with the most important player in

537
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Speaker 3: the franchise.

538
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Speaker 5: I think they'll probably be a couple different opinions on it,

539
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 5: but we got to get, you know, the MRI of

540
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 5: it and take a look and find out exactly what

541
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Speaker 5: it is, where it is, you know, if there's any

542
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: other factors that go into it, and determine what the

543
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: best decision for him to get him back to, you know,

544
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent as fast as possible. But uh, you know, uh,

545
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 5: you know, he's he's down today.

546
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Speaker 2: Uh.

547
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Speaker 5: He obviously is one of the most ultra competitors I've

548
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 5: ever met. And and shoot, he was trying to go

549
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 5: back in the game as it was yesterday. So we're

550
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 5: gonna have to medically make a good decision and and

551
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Speaker 5: and help you know, kind of almost protect him from

552
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Speaker 5: himself a little bit in a way where we got

553
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Speaker 5: to take care of him and get him back to

554
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent.

555
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Speaker 3: I like I like that football talk. It's a little

556
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: good football jargon. Yeah, he's down today, that's like Cessler

557
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: Sessler's down tonight and we're gonna get him back on.

558
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's saying down emotionally. I think Mark's up.

559
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: He's having fun.

560
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Oh I think no, I think okay, I think.

561
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: He's say because he's so passionate, he's down in the

562
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Speaker 1: dumps because he knows he's gonna be out for a

563
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Speaker 1: little while.

564
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well, that's a misunderstanding. I thought it was

565
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: down like the football term. Oh he's down, Like he

566
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: didn't he wasn't involved in any of the but you're right,

567
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: it's Monday anyway. Oh he's down. That's not good. That

568
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: totally changes how I feel about everything. Sounds like a

569
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Speaker 3: guy's gonna miss some time.

570
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Speaker 4: I really thought O'Connell telegraphed this last night. And because

571
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Speaker 4: he's keeps saying one hundred percent, we need to get

572
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Speaker 4: him back to one hundred percent. We got to need

573
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Speaker 4: to make the best decisions for the long term health

574
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Speaker 4: of Justin Jefferson, and the way he said it, we

575
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: got to protect him from himself. I mean, I think

576
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: this is a problem. I mean I would be stunned

577
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: if he played this week. And it just reminds me

578
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: a little bit of Cooper Cup. Like I think they

579
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: want to you want to be careful with these hamstrings

580
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: so that they don't recur, and you look, this is troubling.

581
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Speaker 4: But I also think Justin Jefferson's contract is something like

582
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: he's looking for a new contract, that that's something that

583
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: they're trying to protect him, I think, And I don't

584
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: think he's going to play for a little bit by

585
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 4: that sound.

586
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you mentioned what I was gonna mention,

587
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: which was they have a warning shot fired and what

588
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: happened in Los Angeles with Cooper cup who they try

589
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: to bring a guy back a little before, maybe he

590
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: was ready, and then he had a setback and boom,

591
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: he misses the first quarter of the season. So let's

592
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: hope Justin Jefferson doesn't miss too much time and when

593
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: he comes back, he's Justin Jefferson because the Vikings are

594
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: not a very competitive team without him on the field.

595
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if they win games without that guy

596
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: on the field. The Giants are having trouble winning games

597
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: this year, and it's not going to get any easier

598
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: if Daniel Jones isn't on the field. The quarterback suffered

599
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Speaker 3: a nick a neck injury in the blowout loss to

600
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Brian Dables said on Monday he is quote

601
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: optimistic about Jones playing against the Bills in Week six. However,

602
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: Gregy maybe a little tempered. We temper this with rap

603
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: sheets reporting on what he was hearing around the team.

604
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said it's uncertain, and another local beat writer

605
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: pointed out that Dable made it clear that his optimism

606
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: came from talking to Daniel Jones and that this was

607
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: an injury similar to one that he's had before. And

608
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: in that very situation, Daniel Jones kept saying, I can play,

609
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: I can play, And when it came down to it,

610
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: because it was a neck injury, the doctors said no,

611
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: you can't, and he had to miss time. So that's

612
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: Sunday night football, that's against the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's dark. We've covered how dark it is.

614
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: And Nick Schook and Patrick Claiban will actually be covering

615
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Speaker 4: that Sunday night game for us this week, so we

616
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Speaker 4: we don't have to cover Tyrod maybe starting in primetime

617
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: against his old team.

618
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Speaker 1: Yikes.

619
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Speaker 3: Oh man, that could be tough. Also tough. I'm just yeah,

620
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: I told you. You know my old man, Keith tours

621
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: Achilles right in front of me this summer. That sucked.

622
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: Terrible injury.

623
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Speaker 1: Where did that happen in back East?

624
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Speaker 3: It happened in Texas when we were on vacation. We

625
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: got the grandparents together. Just a terrible, terrible time for

626
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: the family. And he's in recovery after surgery and getting

627
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: rehab and on his way back, which is great. And

628
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: my dad's doing great with it, but it is a

629
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Speaker 3: long and arduous rehab. And then, of course we know

630
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: what happened to Aaron Rodgers fourth play the season. He

631
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: blew his achilles. The most important player on the Jets

632
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Speaker 3: offensive line is Elijah Vera Tucker, or I would say

633
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: the most talented player. Former first round pick. He limped

634
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: off the field against the Broncos at Mile High Stadium,

635
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: the same stadium where a year ago, almost to the day,

636
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: he suffered a torn triceps injury that ended his season.

637
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: He lives off the field, they think he's okay, and

638
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: then they do some more testing. Elijah Vera Tucker blew

639
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: his achilles, so he's out for the year and he

640
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: now has surgery and a long and arduous rehab ahead

641
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: of him. Just a brutal blow for Vera Tucker and

642
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: the Jets of Vera Tucker, who has been bouncing around

643
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: the line for a couple of years now, but they

644
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: had recently kicked him over from guard, his natural spot,

645
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: to right tackle, and there appeared to be greg some

646
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: level of stability with Mackay Beckton on the left side

647
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: and Joe Tipman, the second round pick, had taken over

648
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: at Garden was doing some good things and it felt

649
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: like maybe they were getting somewhere. And now you take

650
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Vera Tucker out of it. It crushed their line last

651
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: year and it's not good news for them this year.

652
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they got?

653
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Speaker 4: They got Billy Turner, they got those guys they keep

654
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Speaker 4: psychling through Max Mitchell. I feel like, I know the

655
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Speaker 4: backup jets tackles.

656
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Speaker 3: Too, So they tried they kind of when they were

657
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Speaker 3: dealing with injury issues this summer. They try to get

658
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: these guys, these journeymen to stick on the left and

659
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: right tackle, and that blew up and now they have

660
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: no choice and Mkai Beck then labored through the Denver game.

661
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how much longer he's going to be

662
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: sticking around either. So we're kind of back to square

663
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: one with which has been a kind of a cursed

664
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Speaker 3: position group under Joe Douglas, which is ironic gregy because

665
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be his bread and butter, the trenches.

666
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Speaker 4: And now you got the Eagles, who are the team

667
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Speaker 4: he came from and actually are the model of how

668
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: to build your trenches. And yeah, you got to be

669
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: a little concerned with that matchup heading into the bye week.

670
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Speaker 3: I'm also concerned with Devon ah Chan, the running back

671
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: who's averaging like thirteen yards of carry this year amazing speed.

672
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: Just has gone from healthy scratch in Week one to

673
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: the most exciting young player or running back in football

674
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: this side of Bjon Robinson. A little concerned about a

675
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: knee injury that popped up. Here's Mike McDaniel talking about

676
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: what a chen is dealing with and if he's in

677
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Speaker 3: danger of missing time.

678
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Speaker 1: Is he undergoing like an MRI today or anything like that.

679
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's there's various various things that he's undergoing.

680
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: Handshakes as well, high fives. I think he.

681
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Speaker 5: I think he from all accounts, he had a good

682
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: breakfast and lunch.

683
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's we love McDaniel, but I mean I

684
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: would hope, I would hope GREGI that unless they they

685
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: must feel confident that he's not facing an absent or

686
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: that's not going to be that's probably gonna be one

687
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Speaker 3: that McDaniel's gonna want to have back if we get

688
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: bad news tomorrow.

689
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Speaker 1: Well, I think he.

690
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Speaker 4: I think he was pressed on it, in fairness to

691
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: McDaniel for a little while, so that wasn't the first question.

692
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: And They were like, are you confident he'll return this season?

693
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, whoa, what where did that come from?

694
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: That question?

695
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: It made me wonder what they know? Whoever's asking the question?

696
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: And then he just started haminahmanine and didn't want to

697
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: say anything. He's like, I don't like to talk about

698
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: I don't like to speculate. I don't think about anything

699
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 4: until I know the facts. And and then.

700
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Speaker 1: I just he was he was in a Mike McDaniel

701
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: press conference spiral. But I don't mind, you.

702
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: Know, I was thinking about this, Greg. I didn't bring

703
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: it up on Sunday because it didn't occur to me

704
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: until this morning. You're a great person to get, you know,

705
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: takes on Mike McDaniel press conferences because I think there's

706
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: a lot of similar DNA with you guys. I think

707
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: that I think you have a there's a natural kinship

708
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: perhaps between you guys. There's some type of uh, there's

709
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: some type of energy wire that connects you that is invisible,

710
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: and you could understand where he's coming from and and

711
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: he too of you. If you were to actually meet I.

712
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: I would love to meet him, you know, I'll take

713
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: I'm taking that as a compliment. I think that might,

714
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: you know, be true, and I'd like to believe it

715
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: was true. I like to think in this situation, Yeah,

716
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: he starts making jokes because he's like nervous, you know,

717
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: he's trying to make light of he already kind of

718
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: stepped into it and got stuck in a position where

719
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be answering these questions, and he's

720
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: just trying to deflect with humor, you know, sometimes better

721
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: than others.

722
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Speaker 3: You know, I've been there many times, Greg, where maybe

723
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: things got a little bit uncomfortable, and then then Greg

724
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: throws in something that is kind of a wild comment,

725
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: and it's a little McDaniel ask.

726
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like you take an uncomfortable situation and then

727
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 4: you could try to like fix it, or let's just

728
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: drop a bomb to make it more uncomfortable and then

729
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 4: you know, yeah that that'll solve it.

730
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Speaker 3: It's kind of a little bit of a Larry David

731
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: vibe in there as well.

732
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm a little worried though, and its controversial you took him.

733
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: You know, everyone should check out our NFL Plus show

734
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: from last week. We did a draft where we took

735
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: all the rookies and just we could take. I think

736
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: we only had three picks each, so nine players taken overall.

737
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: Devon ait Chin moved into the top nine overall rookies

738
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Speaker 4: in this class. Controversial pick by the Zeusser. He backed

739
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: it up with a big performance. But you know people

740
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: are wondering injury risk.

741
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: You know, well my top two my top pick was

742
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson and my third pick was a Chane. I

743
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: don't even know who my second pick was, but I

744
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: hope he's okay. He's probably a great bit of physical

745
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: discomfort would be my guests. I don't remember who it was.

746
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: It's an explosive offense.

747
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh it's Pookin a Kua. But hey, kid, get safe,

748
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: go somewhere, Go under the bed and hide because I

749
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: took you. My injury plagued rookie All Stars Deshaun Watson

750
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: also an injury situation. And this one's a little a

751
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: little weird, greggy, because Watson was cleared to play in

752
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: week four, right, and then he worked out on the

753
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: field before their game. Who's it against? It was against

754
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: what they get.

755
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: Wiped out by last week the Ravens.

756
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: The Ravens, and he couldn't go. So even though he

757
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: was cleared to play, he wasn't feeling right, so they

758
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: scratched him. Then they had a bye week the Browns,

759
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: and now we're into prep for forty nine ers week

760
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: and Kevin Stefanski wouldn't commit to Watson playing in week six.

761
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: I think that is obviously something to keep an eye

762
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 3: on here, because that means even with this additional rest,

763
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: it's not a situation where Watson is feeling himself and

764
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: you just wonder what exactly is going on in that

765
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: right shoulder.

766
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he worked out before the game, and this one

767
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: kind of slipped through the cracks for us because I

768
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: hadn't been following it as closely that Stefanski literally said

769
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: during the week of practice that he had been cleared medically,

770
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: and that's why it's just strange. And the Browns reporter,

771
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: I believe it was on the athletic that I was reading, like,

772
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: you know, pointed out the similarities to the situation with

773
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefanski where they were saying like

774
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: he was medically cleared and there was kind of this

775
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: whole back and forth thing that he was playing through

776
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: an injury that Stefanski talked about and it's just very

777
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: odd to say your quarterback was medically cleared, and they

778
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: obviously have gone out of their way to say, like,

779
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 4: of course, Deshaun Watson will play through pain, and he's

780
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: just not feeling right. He knows his body, we know

781
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: he's a warrior, all that stuff, but just kind of

782
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: a strange situation. That was compounded by the announcers of

783
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: that game saying, look, they thought all week Watson was playing,

784
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: and they were surprised at the last second essentially that

785
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: they had to play Dorian Thompson Robinson and now you

786
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: might not be ready for this week.

787
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Speaker 1: We'll see. It's just something to watch.

788
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: Yes, we do not need to see dtr again. That

789
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: was a rough debut by the kid, late vander esh

790
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: Cowboys linebacker veteran portant guy for them. He could be

791
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: headed to injured reserve after he suffered a neck injury

792
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 3: in Week five's blowout lost to the forty nine ers

793
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: and the Lions lose one of their big ticket signings,

794
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Moseley tours a cl played two snaps and blew

795
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: his ACL, so he is obviously done for the year.

796
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Devastating. He tore one ACL.

797
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: I think it was his left last year and you know,

798
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: still ended up getting a nice free agent contract because

799
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: he's a good cornerback with a decent.

800
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: Money one for six he got.

801
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but just coming off of a tour in

802
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: a cl for a young guy but not like especially proven. Yeah,

803
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: they believed in him and then tore the other a

804
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: cl Your heart kind of breaks from and I was

805
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: really worried about Van der Esh that this could be

806
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: a more serious injury. They do say it's four to

807
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: six weeks, so considering his history with neck injuries, hopefully

808
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: you know, he's able to play football again this year,

809
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: that'd be great.

810
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that Detroit things are great for

811
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: the Lions right now, but that secondary is getting tested

812
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: now with a depth CJ. Gardner Johnson another edition in

813
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: the offseason. He's on IR with a pectoral injury. We

814
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: don't know if he's coming back. And Mosley tore the

815
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: ACL also against the Panthers almost one year to the

816
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: day he suffers the same injury. So that is that

817
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: is a tough break. It is a brutal sport, Greggie.

818
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: That's what's happening in the news. Anything else to share.

819
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Speaker 1: Well, we're always here late it's Monday night.

820
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 4: We did a show earlier whatnot, and we're always ending

821
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: with like and this guy's season is over with a

822
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 4: torn Aco. It's kind of a bummer way to end

823
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 4: the day. So you know, we need to just, I

824
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: don't know, do some jokes talk Dodgers Baseball. Mark's there

825
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: right now. Are they blowing it?

826
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: They were down?

827
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: They're down four to two.

828
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough stitch too, So that's that we're

829
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: not going to get. It's the bottom of the night's Actually,

830
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this anymore, and we'll go

831
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: watch the end of that Dodger again.

832
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Speaker 4: Okay, we do have a show to prep four too.

833
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 4: We're going to be previewing the primetime game. Maybe something

834
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: else on.

835
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: We got something we get on there for you guys

836
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: coming up, and we'll be on a plane. We got

837
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: to catch a bird to England tomorrow. So everybody over there,

838
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: thank you for your support. Come say hi, and if

839
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: you're at the live show, let's have a party. Let's

840
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: get wild, all right? Until next time?

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Speaker 5: He the call