1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Samp this is John. We're the ancient 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: two case Storytime podcast hosts, and we have some ancient 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: wisdom in the stories coming up. If you want to 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: hear the wisdom from two old heads that know more 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: than they know what to do with, you're go'd have 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: to wait for a quick message from our sponsors for 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the next two minutes or so. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: I want to divorce my husband after I cheated on him. 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Oh think that's fair right? 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: My husband thirty four mail, let's call him John, and 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: I forty three female, have been married for four years 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: and together for five. To explain the whole story, I'll 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: start at the beginning. By the way, this comes from 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: Belgian Waffles seven seven seven, and if you want to 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: spend your own stories, go to the rs slash Okay 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: Storytime Separate it. So, before our wedding, I asked John 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: if he had any debts, and he said no. I 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: also asked if he had a driver's license and he 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: said yes. However, three months before our wedding in July, 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: I learned from his landlord that he hadn't been paying 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: rent and had a court order to pay up since 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: he wasn't honoring the payments. We arranged to cover what 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: he owed to keep him out of trouble. This upset 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: me and I started having doubts and feeling bad vibes. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: I should mention that I am a Christian, although much 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: if my family is Muslim. When I met John, he 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: assumed that being half Moroccan, I would automatically be Muslim. However, 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: I made many changes in my life to become a 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: better person and embrace my Christian faith. John, who was 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: raised Catholic, had converted to Islam. 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: You guys swap, Wow, they really did. 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: I never pressured him to change religions, but after many 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: discussions comparing the Bible and the Koran, he expressed a 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: desire to return to Christianity and started Bible study. 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: Okay, three things. Yes, he's gonna he has no debts. Yeah, 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: he has a driver's license or like I guess legal dodcasts, 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: And he's gonna convert back Christianity. What I can already 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: see here is one he's a liar into equal yoke 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 3: as a Christian. That's kind of like one of the things, 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: like before you get into it, it's important like not 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: like on this same page about certain things, but like 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: you kind of have the same mindset towards things. You 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: guys work like hard at the same things. 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: See if this happens, Yeah, because I already see a 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 3: lot of setting self up for failure here. Yeah. 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: After learning about his debt and dishonesty, I was ready 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: to call off the wedding. I suggested we spend some 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: time apart to work on ourselves and our faith. I 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: have a dark past, and my faith has freed me 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: from it. John knew how important this was to me. 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: He begged me not to leave, saying he wanted the 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: same things in life and felt he had finally found 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: purpose and truth. He promised to quit smoking and make 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: positive changes. 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, these are uh, you gotta pray about it. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: Both of you gotta pray about it. 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Eventually I gave in today. I knew this was a mistake, 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: but I've always put out those needs before my own. 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: That's my biggest flaw. We got married in October and 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: for a while things seemed okay. Then in January, his 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: salary was garnished for debts he had forgotten about. He 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: always had explanation, blaming the system or saying he was 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: a victim of circumstances. 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: But now circumstances. 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Before the wedding, I had purchased a BMW for myself. 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: He often argued over the car because I've always been independent, 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: going where I need to. As a single mother of three, John, 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: who previously relied on public transport, started insisting that he 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: couldn't waste time on a two hour commute from work, 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: pressuring me to let him use my car. In April, 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: my daughters wanted to start driving lessons, and I learned 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: I was pregnant. I asked John to be their driving instructor. 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: In Belgium, an experienced driver can teach students to drive 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: after passing a small test. John signed up, but when 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: my daughters went to city hall with their father to 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: complete the paperwork, they discovered John had no registered license. 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: My ex husband called me to break the news. When 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: I confronted John, he admitted, I didn't know how to 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: tell you. I was angry and humiliated, especially hearing it 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: from my ex husband. I could have been in serious 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: trouble for lending John my car when he didn't even 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: have a license. That was the first thing that you 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: knew about him. 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Honest, she didn't know. He just said I hadn't. 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's what I was saying. That's the 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: first thing that you said, like he told you about himself, 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: or maybe not the first thing, but like you asked 89 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: him that you said, do you have a license? 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: He was like, yep, doesn't have sucked the downgrade from 91 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: being single to being with this man. 92 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? What? Still he hadn't considered the risk. He only 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: thought about himself. Meanwhile, I was studying to be a 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: dental assistant, caring for the family, managing my pregnancy, and 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: paying off his debts. Then I found out he'd spent 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: three hundred dollars gambling online. I was furious because I 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: had made so many financial sacrifices. He promised he never 98 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: do it again, and I forgave him, reminding him of 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: his promise to quit spoking before our baby was born. 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: Despite repeatedly swearing he wasn't smoking, I kept catching him 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: in the act. As time went by, John insisted on 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: buying a house, saying we needed more space and that 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: it would be something to leave for our daughter. I 104 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: was living in a social housing arrangement that offered stability, 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: especially if John lost his job, our rent would decrease, 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: but he pressured me, and five months after our daughter 107 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: was born, we bought a house. 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Oh boy, get at uh, get at question? We bought 109 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: a house or you bought a house? 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got all that debt. Not long after I 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: started suspecting he was hiding something. I asked if he 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: was seeing another woman, but he denied it, calling me paranoid. 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: My instincts told me to check his phone, and in 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: August I found that he wasn't seeing another woman. He 115 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: was gambling our mortgage payments on casino games. ERL let's leave, 116 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: let's leave. 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: My brother. Don't you understand those are rigged? 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, rigged. To try to cover it up, he took 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: out three secret loans totally about nine thousand dollars using 120 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: my information without my knowledge, and two thousand dollars in debts. 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: He has put our family at risk. Oh, John is 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: an easy way of washing off his guilt, and the 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: only thing that brings some joy is booze. Many times 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: he has crossed the line due to heavy consumption, like 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: pulling on the emergency brake while I'm driving with our 126 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: baby in the back because he was angry that I 127 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't let him drive. He doesn't have a license. 128 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: Bro, you gotta put yourself first in front of him. 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: Leave this man. She was driving, and he just yeah, 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry with your baby. Bye. All the doors upstairs 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: are broken in because of his outbursts. He never considered 132 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: my needs. If I wanted to cut my hair, I'll 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: tell me things like, we don't have the money for that. 134 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: Yours fine, even if it's been in year since my 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: last cut. But he cuts his hair every month, and 136 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: when I tell him that, he has the audacity to say, well, 137 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: it's not the same budget, so one hundred dollars a 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: years too much. I now have to forget about myself 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: when he knows that I used to be pampered head 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: to toe, hair, nails, and clothes. I've always taken good 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: care of my appearance, but now because of the financial 142 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: mess he made, I have to forget about myself, my 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: other three children's needs. You had three kids with his man. 144 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: She had three kids before. She had two kids before, 145 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: and I think one with them two. 146 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: Kids and then one with him. You need to leave. 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: But as long as he and our daughter are taken 148 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: care of, that's all that matters. 149 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Or I think she had three before and then one 150 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: with him. So she has four in total, but he 151 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: doesn't care about the other three. 152 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Girl leave him. He's like off. He offers nothing. 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah he does. He offers stress, and he's a money hole. Yeah, honestly, 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: you've got too much money. You got to get one 155 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: of these. 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Around you, got it. Yeah, you can't have all this money. 157 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Almost a year after the gambling episode and the many 158 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: fights over his drinking habits and the lying about his 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: sig consumption, he swears to God he hasn't spoked, calls 160 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: me crazy, says I persecute him. He finally admits it 161 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: when I find a pack of SIGs in our new car. 162 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: Dude. 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: The car was also a big source of arguments. I 164 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: didn't want us to buy a car over fifteen thousand dollars, 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: but he argued every day about how he knows it 166 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: to fix BMW's in that their quality cars. 167 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: No, no, no, sorry for everyone that has a BMW. 168 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: I have never heard any other car it gets brought 169 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: into a shot more than a BMW. 170 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: I just think this man is stupid? 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: Is he is? He said that about BMW's, not saying 172 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: like BMW's are bad cars, but they do need to 173 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: require a lot of maintenance with oil and things like that. 174 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: If you want something, you just need a camera, get 175 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: a cameray. 176 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, I know they're good cars. I mostly drove BMW's 177 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: before marrying him, but I tried to keep us on 178 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: budget after all the financial difficulties where he absolutely calculates nothing. 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: So my mistake. I finally gave in. We bought a 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand dollars car on credits. The credit is 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: in our names, but I contracted it in my bank 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: because the interest was lower, so you paid for it. 183 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: I am shocked how this woman got with this man. 184 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: I don't understand why you were still with him. 185 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: And that's when he started to change. He was what 186 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: do you mean he started to change? Okay, before me, 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: John had debts, was about to be evicted from his place, 188 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: had no car, nor license, no friends or family close 189 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: to him except his father, who always pulled him out 190 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: of trouble. But even he is fed up now with 191 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: all of his son's crap. But now John was starting 192 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: to feel like a man. Here we are at the 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: end of May, and I started seeing him come home 194 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: and go to work in a good mood, way too 195 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: good of a mood. You have to know that John 196 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: is never in a good mood unless he has a 197 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: glass of booze in his hand. Yikes, girl, girl again, 198 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: my lanterns lit up. I knew another woman was behind 199 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: this making him smile. I definitely wasn't the one making 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: him so cheerful. Our daughter never made him this happy. 201 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: I felt so angry because he would never hug me 202 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: or show me love and affection. We have a spicy 203 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: sleep twice a month, max, and I never pushed him 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: away to spy all the deceptions and lies. The problem 205 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: in our spicy sleep life again is him. But even 206 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: if he neglected me, I never would have let some 207 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: other man get closer to me. So anyways, I know 208 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: something is up again. And he casually talks about this 209 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: new colleague one day as she's been moved to a 210 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: new position. Now he feels sorry for her because she 211 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: was being pestered. We'll call her nas thirty three female. 212 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: Oh boy, don't worry about her now. 213 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: I know my husband. He doesn't give a dang about anyone, 214 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: and he was all poor girl about her. I knew 215 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: she was the reason for him smiling so much. Anyway, 216 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: to make a long story short, he denied doing anything 217 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: wrong with her, but they were deleted calls and messages, 218 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: and he lied about hanging out with her after work. 219 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: When I confronted him on that, he called her to 220 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: have her say that nothing was going on between them. 221 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, yeah, called her up. 222 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but she did admit to having chatted with 223 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: him after work that when he, on the other end, 224 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: had made up a story about why he came so 225 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: home so late. I got angry, and he had the 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: audacity to leave and call her to me that was 227 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: drawing the line. I felt like he was choosing her 228 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: over me. He literally has never once chosen you. Not 229 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: once did he suggest blocking her or cutting ties with her. Instead, 230 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: he nags me and says, she and I talk at 231 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: work and we both agree to say that you're crazy. 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 233 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: I was fed up, so I told him that even 234 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: if I don't have enough proof to divorce on the 235 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: basis of adultery, I want a marriage contract or I'm gone. 236 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: His response was to go out, cut his phone off, 237 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: and come back in nine thirty am wasted with the 238 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: BMW insured and bought in my name. 239 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: So I left. 240 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: I was determined to divorce because before I left, I 241 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: placed spyware on his phone and could see that he 242 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: was still texting and talking to nas. This relationship is 243 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: so unhealthy. It's unhealthy like he's financially and also like 244 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: he's punching wall. 245 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: So it's just not he's not a good person. Pushed 246 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 3: you to your limits where you're also not a good person. 247 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: To Yeah, like you're putting spyer on his phone because 248 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: you made to do that with a partner. That partnership 249 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: is done. 250 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, unless partner is your target and it's been your 251 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: target all long to find out secret information to save 252 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: your country. 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you realize that you're both in love 254 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: with each other. 255 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: Mister and missus Smith the original movie kind of applied 256 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: twice exactly. 257 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: He was only worried about getting back to the BMWi 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: confiscated and that chick. I left for three months and 259 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: stayed with my best friend who had a one bedroom 260 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: apartment and her mom was staying with her, so it 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: was complicated for my other two children to stay with us. 262 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: They stayed with their dad and we could see each 263 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: other as much as we could. I finally gave the 264 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: BMW back and that idiot sold it for supposedly eighteen 265 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: thousand dollars after six months of purchasing it, and never 266 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: paid off the credit with the money. Instead, he bought 267 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: a twenty eleven OUTI A five for fifteen thousand dollars. 268 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: How stud But is that now we're paying a twenty 269 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars credit for a fifteen year old car 270 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: worth fifteen thousand dollars three hundred and twenty nine dollars 271 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 2: a month for a car that can't even have omnium 272 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: insurance on it because it's too old. If he crashes it, 273 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: they won't give him a new one, but the credit 274 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: will still have to be paid. I have never seen 275 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: such stupidity. 276 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: It's every day that you've been with this. It's yourself. 277 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: He's never once been smart, and now you're enough the 278 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: smart one because you keep hanging with them. 279 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is like she left him. 280 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: They're separating. 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: They're separated. Yeah, they're not legally divorced, but they're separated. 282 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: He's with that girl mass and she's separated. Yeah, legally 283 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: divorces man, but maybe it's like religious things, you just 284 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: want to divorce him. 285 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: That's also another thing. I'm kind of like, why did 286 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: you not pray about this? Before getting into it, if 287 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: you were reluctant about a few things. Because also like 288 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: not even religion, but money is talked a lot in 289 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: the Bible. It's like mentioned like a hundred twenty seven times. 290 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: It's a really specific amount. 291 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're like, you should do this with 292 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: your money. And if you're with someone that isn't wise 293 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: of their money, that's I don't know. It's like girl's also. 294 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: A lot younger than her. Yeah, yeah, Like it feels 295 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: like this man is just like over owned, has proved 296 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: that he's very immature and also kind of abusive. 297 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, kind of get out of there. 298 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: For my part, my mistake is that I communicated with 299 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: an ex boyfriend we will call him soof thirty one mail. 300 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: I ended things abruptly in twenty eighteen and cut contact 301 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: with him when I met and started dating John in 302 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. During my marriage, I never once spoke to him, 303 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: even when I was hurt or disappointed in John. But 304 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: I knew in my heart that SUF would always love 305 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: me and would forever be my biggest love. I would 306 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: often miss him very much, then go get in with him, 307 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: leave this stupid John. I missed being loved and held 308 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: the way he would hold me. I missed being understood 309 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: and cherished. I missed laughing with every inch of my 310 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: body with just one look. Our relationship was unique and 311 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: we were one. I was just sad that John never 312 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: wanted us to work as one. He always worked against 313 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: me and had little faith in me and my abilities. 314 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Most people around me trust my judgment and ask me 315 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: for advice because I am a very analytical person when 316 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: it comes to others. But you're just not going to 317 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: analyzing your own relationship. 318 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: Hey, coaches don't play. 319 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Apparently, Yeah, she's in a relationship, but she just doesn't 320 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: play well. But John just likes to shut me up, 321 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: as if I were the stupid one. Anyways, Sooof's still 322 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: in contact with one of my brothers, and he found 323 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: out about our split, so he wanted to reach out 324 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: to see how I was doing. I have to admit 325 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: that soof really said things that helped me with my 326 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: self esteem, because at that point I was just a mess. 327 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: We knew that a relationship would be complicated because our 328 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: faiths are different. He is Muslim and I am Christian. 329 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: Our morals are different. He is into dirty money. What 330 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: does that mean? 331 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: He's gambling sue for John. 332 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: Soof how is he into dirty money? John's literally gambling 333 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: all of your money away. John's into being broke. 334 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: Or maybe like laundry money, where like it's just dirty. 335 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: It's like anything that's dirty, it's just like it needs 336 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: to be cleaned. 337 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just physically dirty. We have a twelve year 338 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: age gap, and he wants children. You have a twelve 339 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: How old are you? 340 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: Maybe Souf is like I thought he was thirty one 341 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: though I can look. 342 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it says thirty sooth thirty one male? 343 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Oh he is forty three. 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh he's twelve years younger. Yeah, okay, okay, I'm pretty 345 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: sure John is also pretty young too. I think he's 346 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: like thirty four. 347 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: Yep. 348 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: So just to remind everyone, John is thirty four. Oh, 349 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: p is forty three, and Souf is thirty one. 350 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: I feel like he's a newly thirty, not just has 351 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: been thirty. 352 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh the twelve year age gap, like 353 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: she's already in a relationship that is like a nine 354 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: year age gap. What's the different? 355 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: You know, three years does a lot. 356 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean John's pretty immature though, which I 357 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: can't see myself going through again. She's forty three, so 358 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: we agreed to remain friends, especially since I was going 359 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: through a divorce process and my life was complicated enough. 360 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: We were just not going to go there. But I 361 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: welcomed his friendship because it helped me a lot psychologically, 362 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: and he also helped me out a bit financially with 363 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: my lawyer and by putting gas in my car and 364 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: things like that. In August, things got carried away between us, 365 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: and we did end up sleeping together on a few occasions. 366 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: But my Christian conscience was tormenting me, and I told 367 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: them that we had to stop. Even though I wanted 368 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: a divorce. I had to tell John and my congregation 369 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: to soothe my conscience. You had to tell the entire congregation. 370 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: Some people are just so convicted they got to get 371 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: it out. 372 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: If you had to tell, like, you know, you went 373 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: the priest, the entire congregation. 374 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, let's say you're in a leadership role in your 375 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: church and you do something like this, got to kind 376 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: of fess up because you can't seem hypocritical because in 377 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: a way, in the Christian mindset, this is adultery. Yeah, 378 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: and she's got to kind of fess up. Like I've 379 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: seen people in the church where they've had a step 380 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: down because of their personal choices. Yeah, and they've been like, hey, 381 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: we're stepping down into this, that's this because they're kind 382 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: of like a family, yeah, but like with rules and yeah. 383 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: So that's what I how I see it. 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: Souf knows that God has become very important to me, 385 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: and he totally understands. We decided to cut ties. A 386 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: couple of days later. I argued with my best friend 387 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: and I was really missing my family life. I left 388 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: her place and slept in my car, and when John 389 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: found out, he told me to come back, even though 390 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: we were divorcing. I agreed for the sake of everything. 391 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: My best friend was going through depression and I was 392 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: tired of walking on eggshells in my condition. I came 393 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: back the last week in of August and stood firm 394 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: in my decision to divorce. But I did tell him 395 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: about Souf and what happened, and I also told my 396 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: congregation to come clean about my sins. He was angry 397 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: even though we were divorcing, and he felt hurt. How 398 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: dare I step out of our marriage without the divorce 399 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: being final? Dude, you were doing that, and also you 400 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: were doing that. Well, you guys were actually still together. 401 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: You were separated when she got with Sue. You were 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: in the process of divorce. 403 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: It's just the state didn't see you guys. 404 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: I told him I only felt guilty in front of God. 405 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: Towards him, I felt nothing. He pretended to have never 406 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: cheated and that I was a woman of low standards 407 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: and he wasn't like me. He said he had nothing 408 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: with an Ass, But I still had access to his 409 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: messages and he was telling Nass that not a day 410 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: went by that he didn't think of her. But to me, 411 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: he was sending messages like I forgive you, I still 412 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: love you. Alpathetic. 413 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: I saw his own then recently, where when a woman 414 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: cheats on a man, the man asks did you have 415 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 3: sex with him? While when a woman finds out that 416 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: their husband cheat on him, she asked, you still love her? 417 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Interesting? 418 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, this is my thing, this is my thing. 419 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: Why did you do this to my She's like, did 420 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: you have an intimate? Yeah? That's interesting to see here 421 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: because this guy brought up. 422 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Plus he started doing live TikTok battles. 423 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, dude, what how did these content creators 424 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: just somehow show up in these I don't understand happened 425 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: in the last episode. What and well. 426 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: Friends and family were telling me about seeing John on TikTok, 427 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: and it really embarrassed me. He was changing, his language 428 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: was vulgar, and he was becoming dumb. He was already dumb. 429 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: I am not judging people on TikTok, but at least 430 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: put in some content, not just sitting there with people 431 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: with no goals, yelling tap tap tap all night long. 432 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: I was grossed out. So anyway, September went by and 433 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: we went to see my lawyer together the sat our 434 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: divorce agreements. Outside of courtroom, John started realizing what life 435 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: would be like for him after the divorce. He would 436 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: see me leave the house, go to the gym, and 437 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: become filled with jealousy, but to me, that was in love. 438 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: So he finally begs me to give him one last chance. Girl. 439 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: If you do this, I'm gonna be mad at you. 440 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: Don't give him another chance. 441 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: I've gotta be mad at you. If you give him 442 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: another chance, please, He said, he would do anything to 443 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: get me back. Everything is his fault. He wants a 444 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: Bible study. He wants us to get help for our marriage, 445 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: and he promises to quit smoking. 446 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Like how you got married? He's just telling you things 447 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: you want to hear. 448 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: At the beginning of October, I finally agree and decide 449 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: to see what he'll do. 450 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't, I can't. I you lost. Here 451 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: is on you man? 452 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: You suck. 453 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: You were as dumb as he is. Who's dumber? Come on, 454 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: she's dumber. 455 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean they're dumb in different ways. Like she's she 456 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: just can't see I don't know. She can't, like she 457 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: can't get out of this attached mindset him. She feels 458 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: stuck or something. 459 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: I think the big question here technically he is dumber. Yeah, 460 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: but if you keep seeing yourself being her and these situations, 461 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: do you keep putting yourself in these situations and now 462 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: removing you or your family? 463 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 464 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: But who who actually is number? 465 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: I just think that. I just think that, like you can't. 466 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: Like obviously there's a manner of you know, there's matters 467 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: of like abuse kind of going on here where he's 468 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: pulling her up back in love bombing, et cetera, et cetera. 469 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: But don't settle for this behavior. Yeah, leave, go find sooth. 470 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, be a soooth man like. Even if you guys 471 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: disagree on some things, your life will be one hundred 472 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: times more easier than this. 473 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: He knows I'm not fond of TikTok, but I didn't 474 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: tell him straight out to stop. One month goes by 475 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: and no Bible study. Not once did we look into 476 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: marriage counseling. He's obsessed with TikTok, spending his spare time 477 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: in his car doing live battles. He even spends money 478 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: on TikTok. But the electricity bill wasn't paid for four months, 479 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: his insurance wasn't paid for three But I'm supposed to 480 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: not judge him. He who is trying to make money 481 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: on TikTok, don't like how he talks to me. He 482 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: says that he likes TikTok, that the time for dictatorship 483 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: is over, that he's not scared of me, and that 484 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: I can't ask for divorce just because he doesn't care 485 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: about religion. Yes you can. You can ask for divorce 486 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: for anything. And also I'm asking you to listen to 487 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: full episodes of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, 488 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: Apple Podcast or iHeartRadio and search up okay story time, dude. 489 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: So if we're playing divorce in like you know, the 490 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Christian Confounds, Yeah, one of the things that divorce has 491 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: like got the green light for is unfaithfulness. Yep. I 492 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: would argue in some scenarios that on faithfulness also means 493 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: with money as well. 494 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's stolen your money. Yeah, he's literally already 495 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: cheated on you. 496 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: So within the my within the Christian confounds, he was unfaithful. 497 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: That's calls for divorce for some interpretations of it. He 498 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: was also on faithful with you with the money situation, 499 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: so you can divorce, okay if that's what's holding your back. 500 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: And also he's only with you for your money, Oh yeah, 501 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: because he knows that you're gonna pay off his debts. 502 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 503 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 504 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: You're You're luck is that you just keep balling him 505 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: out of things, keep giving into this behavior. Yep. 506 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: But uh, there's a little bit more to the story. 507 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: We had an agreement that he would help me put 508 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: aside ten thousand dollars, and I'm sure her that agreement. 509 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: So you can gamble whether be divorced or not, just 510 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: as security because I have zero trust in him and 511 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: his word. In case of doors, I would leave with 512 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: the ten thousand dollars and let him out of the house. 513 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: But he's been saying things like why should I give 514 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: you money if we're not divorcing. He keeps zero promises, 515 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: So now I want to take him to court and 516 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: try to get the house. I have three kids, strays. 517 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: I gave up everything for him and gave into everything, 518 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: and he has just been a deceitful husband. But am 519 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: I the ale for asking for the divorce trying to 520 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: take the house, even if I technically am the cheater, 521 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: You're literally not. I have no proof of him having 522 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: an affair, Yes you do. You have so many of 523 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: these chats and never will. He will lie to till 524 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: his last, lying, stinking breath. Okay, folks, that's the end 525 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: of that story. 526 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: I have some math that I did here. Yeah, so 527 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: one earlier in the story, we saw that he had 528 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: eleven thousand dollars in debt that he accumulated for gambling. 529 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah to a house payment. Let's just say you got 530 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: a house for like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 531 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: and split it. That's seventy five grand. And then on 532 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: top of the ten Granny wasted with the car. He 533 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 3: is ninety six dollars one hundred thousand dollars minimum in 534 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: debt here. Yeah, I understand that you seem to put 535 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: on a lot of yourself because earlier you said that 536 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: you put other people before yourself. Yeah, clearly, it seems 537 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: that you're putting this guilt that you cheated on him 538 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: as the biggest thing because you want to keep your 539 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: conscious clear. But we're also missing that he cheated on 540 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: you in an emotional and probably physical sense. 541 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: While you guys were actually still together, and then you 542 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: were separated, and then you got with someone else while 543 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: you were separated. 544 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: So let's lie these facts up here. Get rid of 545 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: this self guilt that you have about yourself. See how 546 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: it is, take a step back. Yes, you can forgive 547 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: yourself if that's what you need to do. Divorce him, 548 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: get out of here. Divorce You're as stupid as he is. 549 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: If you're gonna stay in this, I'm gonna keep saying it, 550 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: you need to leave. Goodness gracious, But folks, that's the 551 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: end of that story. Got another one. Yep, Hey, it's 552 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: johny og Host here. We're gonna get back to the stories. 553 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: But he's a quick three minute break of ass from 554 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: our sponsors. My wife invited her ex to my birthday 555 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: party without asking me. 556 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: I'm on inviting you to my birthday party. 557 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: I'm twenty nine male and my wife is thirty female. 558 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 3: We have been together for five years. We met each 559 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: other during a seminar and we clicked and started dating. 560 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: It eventually got married. My wife already had told me 561 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: that she was in a very serious relationship with her 562 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: school friend. It was one of her female friends brothers. 563 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: They were planning on getting married, but she fell out 564 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: of love with him and they broke up when he 565 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: went for education and a job in a foreign country 566 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: and hasn't met him for the past nine years. By 567 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Throwaway twenty nine. If you 568 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: want to spite your own stories, what are the r 569 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: slashow okay stories? I'm suburn. So enough backstory. Five days ago, 570 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: it was my birthday. We wanted to do something special, 571 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: so we were planning for it for a month. We 572 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: were on a tight budget as well, so we discussed 573 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: on who we were inviting. Basically, we agreed on both 574 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: of our families or invited even extended and some of 575 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: our neighbors and our friends and colleagues. Only those we know, 576 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: though on that day I didn't know if my wife 577 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: invited her ax as well, which was a shock to me. 578 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: When I saw him, I was really shocked. I called 579 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: my wife to meet me upstairs. I asked her what 580 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: he's doing here. She said he came with her sister. 581 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: I said, we will have a discussion later. 582 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, why wouldn't she have said that, like, Hey, my 583 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: ex is gonna. 584 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: Be here with your sister. Are they are him and 585 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: the sister together or very good question. On my party, 586 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 3: I saw mug a my wife and he greeted and 587 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: hugs me as well. He's just hugging everybody. 588 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 2: He was hugging everybody. 589 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: We talked justice formality, and my wife was spending time 590 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: with her friends and he also joined. I guess because 591 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: he's from the friend circle. Anyway, after the party, I 592 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: confronted my wife and asked her what she was thinking. 593 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: She asked me what. I asked her, Why was her 594 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: ex here when I never met him before? And why 595 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: did you not tell me? She said he came back 596 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: for a few months on holidays and her friends told 597 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: her and urged my wife to invite him. 598 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: It's like the thing is that she totally could have 599 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: invited him if she had told her partner about this, 600 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: like literally, just say, hey, I found out my axes 601 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: in town. I haven't seen him in nine years. Is 602 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: it okay if he comes to the party. 603 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: It's a few words there, I counted thirteen. 604 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 605 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: I told my wife she should have discussed this with me. 606 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: It's my birthday party and I should have the right 607 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: to decide who joins and who doesn't. And it isn't 608 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: just some random guy, it's your x. She said, it 609 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: wasn't that big of a deal. It was only for 610 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: a few hours. She said she didn't tell me because 611 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: I would object it because she knows me, and she 612 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: wanted all of her friends to be invited, so she 613 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: knew he was gonna say no. 614 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: She knew you were going to say no. She wants 615 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: all of her friends to be invited to your birthday. 616 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: It's your birthday. 617 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: I completely lost my crap when she said that. So 618 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: I said, you choose your friends over your own husband, 619 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: I said in my anger. Does she have any idea 620 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: how it feels to see your partner's ex on your 621 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: special day, especially when it's for the first time. 622 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't know. 623 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: Would you like it if I invite my ex to 624 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: your birthday party without telling you, and my ex is 625 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: hugging me and laughing with me. Would you be okay 626 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: with it? It was supposed to be in my special 627 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: day and you ruined it by inviting your ex. Okay, okay, 628 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: ruined it? 629 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean ptent, potentially dramtic. However, I still 630 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: think he's one hundred percent in the right. I absolutely 631 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: should not have invited the X without asking him, and 632 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: then and then kind of downplayed him. But Louke, it's 633 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: not a big deal. It's a big deal to him. 634 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: If it was that big of a deal to me, 635 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: I would go up to the X. Thanks for coming. 636 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: I would like it if you left what. 637 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: It seems like he didn't want to create a scene 638 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: because he went up to her. 639 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: We're to talk about this later, pulled him aside. I 640 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: was constantly thinking about how he did you for years, 641 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: and god knows what he actually did to you. 642 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, dude, that now we're yer. 643 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: Know you're going to cut that to yourself. Would I 644 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: be thrilled to see a man who f my own 645 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: wife on my special day? It would be one thing. 646 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: If it were on friendly terms and we knew each other, 647 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: if he was my bro, would be different. If we 648 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: were asking O bros, we'd be totally different. She started sobbing, said, 649 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: I'm blowing out of proportion and it's not that serious, 650 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: and I'm hurting her with my words. We aren't talking 651 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: to each other for the past couple of days. She 652 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: told her parents and sister, and they said that I'm 653 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: overreacting and it's not that big of a deal. I 654 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: simply told him that if I I invite one of 655 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: my exes on her birthday party without telling her, would 656 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: she like it. They said that I would just be 657 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: taking revenge. I said, I wouldn't hurt her, but she 658 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: should have thought multiple times and discussed with me and 659 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: just simply have thought that it might hurt me and. 660 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: Then listen to him when he said it did hurt him. 661 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: So why am I the a hole here? 662 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: No, she's the a hole. Yeah, only did she not 663 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: tell you that he was coming. She just will not 664 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: listen to you after you say hey, didn't appreciate that. 665 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: She could have just said, oh my god, I really 666 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: didn't think it was gonna be that big of a deal. 667 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: But I'm so sorry. I'll make sure in the future, 668 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: I'll always ask you in these situations. 669 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: Smell it. What an old candle we're kindling? 670 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: Ooh, little flame starting up? 671 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: Looks like rosemary, maybe even a lavender. 672 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: M mmmmm. 673 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't. 674 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't don't trust that anyone in 675 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: the story. She's she's making excuses, her family's making excuse. 676 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: For I don't think, Like, what does the ex doing there? 677 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: I bet he has the best intentions. Yeah, right after 678 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: nine years, he's probably like mandabe, like, I'm back with me. 679 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: I can take it, Uh, take it on my foreign land, 680 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: and you'd be living like a queen. Yes, sure right day. 681 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: First of all, I think everyone for their advice. I 682 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: tried my best and not overthink, but after reading the comments, 683 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 3: I couldn't brush off the feeling that something is wrong here. 684 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: I tried so hard to deny it, but I just 685 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: couldn't because she didn't really apologize. 686 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: I apologized. 687 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: I went to my wife today and asked her to 688 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: unlock her phone and give it to me. 689 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, yikes, but like, at least you're not snooping 690 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: through it. 691 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: There's probable cause here, Well, it's not even probable, cause. 692 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: Here I'm just glad that he's not like doing it secretly. 693 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: Secretly. Yeah. She asked me multiple questions, like it was 694 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: an integregation or something, and why do I want to 695 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: check her phone? Or do I not trust her? Or 696 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: did I go crazy because of my jealousy? And many more. 697 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: But the more I think about it, the angrier I get. She, 698 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: after pressuring her for a while, gave me her phone. 699 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: I checked her texts, social media messages, but kind of 700 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: fine anything at all. But I went to her group 701 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: text chat and found out that my wife and her 702 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: ex met each other alone quite frequently ever since he 703 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: came back. 704 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: Ooh, big old lie, big old lie. 705 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: And he was also invited whenever she went out with 706 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: her friends. 707 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: But she never told me crazy that she would have 708 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: gotten away with this had she not invited him to 709 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: your party. 710 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: Yep, like we said, criminals are dumb. 711 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just want to I'm wondering if she wanted. 712 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: To get caught like what, Yeah, the thrill is cheating, 713 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah. 714 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: She was meeting with her ex boyfriend for a while 715 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: without letting you know. 716 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: I could get if I haven't seen my ex that 717 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna marry one day and we 718 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: ended things amicably. I could get maybe asking my wife, Hey, 719 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: do you mind if I go meet them in a 720 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 3: totally different for coffee? 721 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a group session, group kind of situation. Yeah, 722 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: totally different if he if she had asked. 723 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: Op if you grew up as like family, friends and 724 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: things like that? Okay, that makes sense. 725 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, is though alone without your partner's knowledge, out. 726 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: With your friends and her friends didn't say anything suspicious? 727 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: Your friends didn't say. 728 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: Nothing, and then your friend tells you to invite him 729 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: to his birth to Opie's birthday. 730 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: And gets so comfortable that you actually do it. Yikes, 731 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: she's just now, she's just flown her stuff. 732 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: She's like, well, it's gonna come out eventually, it might 733 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: as well. Kind of. 734 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I asked her what this is? She asked me why. 735 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: He's like you meeting up with your ex? She's like, no, 736 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: is that? I literally I see things that say you 737 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: meet you met up with them? 738 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: No, no habla espanol, no habla ingles oh man that she. 739 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: Doesn't speak English or Spanish, she speaks no language. 740 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: I ask her, why did you meet him alone? And 741 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: why did you never tell me about any of this. 742 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: Why did you not tell me that you and your 743 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: friends invited your ex and you all hung out together. 744 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: My wife said, it's not what I think it is. 745 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: She said, it's not just a rex, but a long 746 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: time friend. They've known each other for years, even before 747 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: she met me. And I'm just being jealous controlling man. 748 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: And there's nothing suspicious other than we just met and 749 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: hung out. 750 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and didn't tell your partner. 751 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things you can do when you 752 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: meet and hang out. 753 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Didn't tell your partner suspicials? 754 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: I said, I love and trust you, but do not 755 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: take me for a fool. There's no reason for you 756 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: to be alone with your ex and behind my back. Especially. 757 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 3: I don't even know who the f this guy is. 758 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: Who the f he is even? And why is he 759 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 3: talking to my wife behind my back? And why is 760 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: my wife meeting him and my own wife defending her ex. 761 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 3: I said, I'm leaving and we're getting a divorce. 762 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: WHOA dang, that was boo. That was quick. 763 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: I would think of separation perhaps, Yeah, I thought there 764 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 3: was gonna be like, maybe a little bit more conversation, 765 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: but I guess not. Is this enough evidence for a 766 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: cause of divorce. 767 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 768 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: I guess for a piatas I would need to know 769 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: if they did anything physically and emotionally, I. 770 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 2: Would I would want to have more conversations of like 771 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: why did you not tell me this? But it feels 772 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: like maybe he's asking about and she's like playing dumb 773 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm sick of this divorce. 774 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if your relation has been going down here 775 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: for a while, and you've noticed some thing's changed within 776 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: the past couple of like past month, yeah, I've started crying. 777 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: Said I don't trust her and it's not what I 778 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: think it is. I wanted to calm her down, but 779 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: I just started walking to the door. My wife held 780 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: me and got angry and said we can talk and 781 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: fix the misunderstanding. But I said, I'm not ready to 782 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: talk and I'm running out of patience, so please just 783 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 3: let me be, and if she wants to be with him, 784 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't object, and I will pray for a happy 785 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: life for you. I went to live with my sister 786 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: for a bit. I told her everything that happened. I 787 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: must have ran it for a long time. She just 788 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: listened and said nothing, But in the end she said, 789 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: my wife is definitely hiding something, and my suspicion is correct. 790 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: She hugged me and sold me and I was drowning 791 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: in my own thoughts and my sister noticed it. I guess. 792 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: My sister said that if she can feel it, that 793 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: I want to cry, and if I want to, I 794 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 3: can cry on her and vincent her instead of bottling 795 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: it up inside, and she herself started crying. 796 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 2: Oh, here's belly. 797 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: To be honest, I really do, but I'm too proud 798 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: to show the weaker side of me, and I have 799 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 3: come here on the internet anonymously. I did so much 800 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: for my wife. She always threw lavish parties, but when 801 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to do the same after years, she betrayed 802 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: me in the worst possible way. Okay, I don't know 803 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: if this is about the party anymore, Dude, Loki, he's 804 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: probably just still upset about this party. 805 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 2: I yeah, he's just like my party was just supposed 806 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: to be really cool. She ruined it, and I'm divorcing 807 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: her because of it. 808 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 3: As she cheated, just ruined my birthday. Oh man, there 809 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: were a thousand different ways to hurt me. She chose 810 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: the worst way to hurt me or I am drinking 811 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: and thinking about what went wrong and where I was 812 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: lacking and living with my sister like a loser in 813 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: his thirties. Well, dude, he's taking the hard route here. 814 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, Okay. I don't think that he is 815 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: necessarily wrong for divorcing her. I think that's his right, 816 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: like she has betrayed his truss yep. I do think 817 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: he could ask a couple more questions. 818 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: I feel like, you're curious about the situation. 819 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he was like she was like I can explain, 820 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: and he was like nope, bye, like they're married at 821 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: least like talk about the situation. I don't know, Like 822 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: if we had confirmation that she had cheated on him emotionally, 823 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 2: physically or whatever, like we had confirmation that they were 824 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: seeing each other and we're in love blah blah blah, 825 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: then I'd be like, yeah, but I feel like, maybe 826 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: just have one conversation where you guys are a little 827 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 2: bit like emotionally kind of more chill, and then after 828 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 2: that conversation, if you're like, yep, she has either continued 829 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: to lie to me or she tells me the truth, 830 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: and it's that she's been cheating on me and then 831 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: you can go. 832 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh, man, I would need more evidence. 833 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just want a little like I don't 834 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: even know if it's evidence. I just would want to 835 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: have like one more like proper conversation before I went 836 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: through this. 837 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, did that have kid? No they don't. Well, that's 838 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 3: good update too, hey's John og Hoist. 839 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick 840 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 841 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry if this is too long. I'm just suffering 842 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: and overthinking so much. I can't even think properly. But 843 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 3: I try my best to keep it as short as possible, 844 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 3: so we get a summary here now. Yesterday my wife 845 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 3: called me and asked to meet me. I said no, 846 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: one told her say whatever she wants on the phone. 847 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: She could not possibly have chosen a worse time to 848 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: call and piss me off. I was wasted and crying 849 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 3: as heck, though I do not blame her because it 850 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: was only eleven o'clock in the morning. Hey, sometimes you 851 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 3: got to get the day started early, you know, you 852 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: know what I mean? My sober friend. Yes, she started 853 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: off with saying she's sorry and we'll do anything to 854 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 3: win me back, and she swore she didn't talk to 855 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 3: him until he got back and her friends introduced me 856 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: to her again, which led to reminiscing. She proposed to 857 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 3: me that we should get back and fix our marriage, 858 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 3: and she promised me that she will never talk to 859 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: him again. We should move to a different state and 860 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: live her life and forget whatever happened. Now. I really 861 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 3: really wanted to just forgive her and divorce her and 862 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: didn't want to expose her, but this pissed me off. 863 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 3: I started calling her so many names, cursed her like 864 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: it's rainfall, and everything I held up inside of me 865 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: came out. I called her a lie, cheating, manipulative, which 866 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: even after all this I did for you, you want 867 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: to isolate me for my family and have me in 868 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: your purse. I work so hard for you, sacrificed everything 869 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: for you, and you are with your ex Effingham, just 870 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: because I loved you and too we have a conversation 871 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: and you took advantage of me. Yeah, I don't know. 872 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 3: I swear to the heavens above even if I go broke, 873 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 3: start begging on the street, I will expose you and 874 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: divorce you. If it was something else I would have 875 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 3: forgiven you in a heartbeat, but you are with your 876 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: ex fiance while I'm working for you and giving you 877 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: most of my money, which made you think I'm a pushover. Wait, 878 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: I need to understand the dynamic working dynamic. Ear is 879 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 3: he like, is she a stay at home mom? They're 880 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: not parents, so she stay at home wife I have? 881 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 3: I don't really know, but just what it sounds like. 882 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: I feel like he's making a lot of I don't know. 883 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 3: I hung up on her after ranning and she was crying, 884 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: I'm done with her nerbs. I immediately told everyone what's 885 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 3: going on, which I think, after getting cheated on, is 886 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 3: a smart thing to do, because you don't want her 887 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: to start as I do think that. 888 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: Like, it seems like he's kind of implying that he 889 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: does have confirmation that she cheated, in which case like 890 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: definitely divorce her. But I feel like she hasn't said 891 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: that yet, but maybe he's just assuming. Yeah, it's definitely 892 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 2: at least emotionally cheated though. 893 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: Which is much too embarrassing for her. I told him 894 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 3: what I saw on text, and many of her family members, 895 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 3: mostly cousins, called me and reassure me that they will 896 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 3: help me. They said they were as shocked as I 897 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: was when they saw him, and that they could see 898 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: it on my face, but they didn't say anything, but 899 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 3: they will help me. Except her mom. She's even worse. 900 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 3: She started saying in our family chat that I am 901 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 3: lying and being jealous and ruining her daughter's life in many, 902 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: many more ways. Her father called me and said he 903 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 3: was sorry, and he knows that I'm not lying, and 904 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: he's disappointed with how my mother in law and wife 905 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 3: are acting. But he said he has to take his 906 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 3: family's side, but he will stay neutral and won't help 907 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: me legally. But I said, to understand, it. 908 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 2: Seems like she did physically cheat on him, which in 909 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: that yeah, in that case, you got your proof. It 910 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 2: seems like everyone's kind of on your side. 911 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: Would going on a date with your ex be physically. 912 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: Cheating, No, but it is there physically, and they have 913 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: this emotional cheating. Wasn't clear what they were doing on 914 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 2: those dates, which is why I was like, oh, maybe 915 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: have that conversation. But it seems like everyone's pretty clear 916 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 2: on what was happening, So like, yeah, and get therapy 917 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: because you seem really really in a bad place. 918 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. My sister hugged me when I told her what 919 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 3: I said. She hugged me for what I think is 920 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 3: like ten hours. She cried and said that she had 921 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: failed as a sister. You should have run background checks 922 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: on her instead of trusting her and kept kissing me. What. 923 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't have Who does that run background you 924 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: even have found? What would you have found in the 925 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 2: background check? She cheated on her partner? You can't find 926 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 2: future cheating on a background check. 927 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: I think this is an older sister, you know, just sister. 928 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm assuming older sister. 929 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 930 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 3: Whenever you get your heart broken, whenever you see your siblings, 931 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: whenever you see a siblings of heartbroken, you're like, I 932 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: wish I could have done. I wish something to prevent this. Yeah, sure, sure, 933 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 3: I said. It's not her fault. He told me, the 934 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 3: next time, she will find a very good woman for me. 935 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 3: You hugged me up with one of her friends, and 936 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: women will be lining up for me. For how good 937 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 3: of a man I am that even though I'm suffering 938 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 3: so much, I still wanted to defend my wife, which 939 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 3: is rare. I don't know if that's true or if 940 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 3: she's just kind. 941 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: He did not want to defend his wife. 942 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean, like little Carvan probably did, but I. 943 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: Mean it's fair, but like he definitely was like, she's 944 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: she's a bee, I'm exposing her. I don't know if 945 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 2: that's defense. 946 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: There's a little little guy and I'm like, but chan's 947 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: your wife. That's probably what he's talking about. I don't 948 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: know if that's true or she was just confiding me. 949 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: But dating or getting remarried is the least of my concern. 950 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it takes some time. 951 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm just glad my sister was with me, helping me. 952 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: Otherwise I wouldn't be typing here. My sister said that 953 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: she already had talked to a lawyer, a very good one, 954 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: and she's her friend, but didn't tell me because I 955 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 3: wasn't in the right place. Told me that in our 956 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 3: country there's a mandatary year cool off period and mandatary 957 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 3: counseling at least two times a month, and if I 958 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: don't appear for counseling, the judge might think I'm being unreasonable. 959 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 3: And since I have no proof of her, a fair 960 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 3: divorce might even take years or even a decade. And 961 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 3: even if we prove her infidelity, she will get alimony. 962 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 3: Because cheating doesn't revoke her rights from alimony from her 963 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: husband in our country, which pissed me off even more. 964 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: But what I'm glad of is that my sister said 965 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 3: her friend has a loophole. She will charge us a 966 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 3: very huge amount, and considering how many months or years 967 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 3: we might fight and sessions, it will drain ninety percent 968 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 3: of my money. Ooh wow, oh my gosh. And she 969 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: will either give us back later or give us cash 970 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: if needed. I'm so glad I have a sister who 971 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: loves me so much and is so smart and surrounds 972 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 3: herself with people like herself. But I'm in the pain. 973 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: I just think it's funny because he's like, yeah, my 974 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: sister found this great solution where I have to pay 975 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 2: like ninety percent of my funds. 976 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, she said she'd pay for it, Okay, okay, get 977 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: paid for it up cash, upfront cash. But the pain 978 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: I am feeling is not going anywhere and going to 979 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 3: stay with me for a long time. And the worst part, 980 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: even if you drink all day, you'll keep overthinking unless 981 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 3: you drink till you pass out. 982 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you need to get some therapy big time. 983 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: Bud, or just keep drinking so you pass out. No, No, 984 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. He seems like you got a solution here. 985 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: Terrible advice, man, I mean just think it like, good 986 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: riddance to your wife. Cheat it on you. Please get 987 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 2: some therapy, get some help. You have a support system 988 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 2: when you're in your family. Focus on that and take 989 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 2: some time for yourself. 990 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 3: Seem a little too soon, like maybe should he separate 991 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,720 Speaker 3: and see this because I think he's. 992 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: Already passed that. I think he's like full convinced that 993 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: she is cheated. I do really want to, like, I 994 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: do think that she's probably has cheated emotionally at the 995 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 2: very least, But I do want to hear, like what 996 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: her explanation would have been, Like I want to hear 997 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: what her excuse was, yeah, because I feel like we 998 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: never heard her say, oh I didn't do that, So 999 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: either or she did it and she just didn't want 1000 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: to lie anymore, or you know, try and defend yourself 1001 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 2: with lies. 1002 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 3: But evidence pro evidence. Edit think. I love you for 1003 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 3: your help and time, So glad you're well. Wishes and 1004 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 3: I hope that none of you go through what I 1005 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: went through. I wish you all good luck. I will 1006 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 3: start focusing on myself and go to sleep, stop drinking, 1007 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 3: and start thinking about my future. Uh wait, what are 1008 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: you doing after this? I don't know what, because you 1009 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: should listen to Okay Storytime on your favorite freaking podcast platform. 1010 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 3: All you gotta do is go to Apple, iHeart Radio, 1011 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 3: Spotify and stars up what sofia Okay story Time? And 1012 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: that's what she's gonna do after this one, just like 1013 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 3: you should. 1014 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: Invite me somewhere what to listen to. 1015 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime with me? We can go anywhere. We can 1016 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,959 Speaker 3: literally go in the car, go to the grocery store, 1017 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 3: listen to Okay storytone, Okay story time, just like you can. Everyone, 1018 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 3: you right there? You Yes, what do you think? Please 1019 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 3: put in the comments? Yeah? Should hear her out a 1020 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 3: little bit? 1021 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 2: The thing is, though, piece already like long gone, He's 1022 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: already like divorce. We're in the process. Yes, blah blah 1023 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 2: blah bye. He's already like exposed her to everyone in 1024 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 2: her family. It's way too late to turn you know, 1025 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 2: the breaks and put the brakes on. I I do 1026 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: feel like we don't know a lot about the situation though, 1027 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 2: and maybe that's because Ope hasn't told like is withholding 1028 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: information from us. I I just want to know more, 1029 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: not because I don't think that OP like shouldn't have divorced. 1030 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, OP has evidence that she 1031 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: at least emotionally JETD. Yeah, but I just want more information. 1032 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: In general, I want to. 1033 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 3: Catch some red handed. 1034 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1035 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 3: I just want to partners cheating on you. No matter 1036 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 3: what country you're in, you just should have the right 1037 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 3: to divorce immediately. I read some meltal online. Isn't it 1038 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 3: crazy how easy it is to get married and how 1039 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: hard it is to get divorced? Yeah, you think it 1040 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 3: should be harder to get married and easy to get divorced. 1041 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 3: What do you think? Maybe just the same, You think 1042 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 3: the same? Yeah, okay, equal, I'm pro marriage counseling before. 1043 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Same. 1044 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 3: But it's a story. Blood. As glad as I'm getting 1045 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 3: support from hundreds of strangers, it also makes me think 1046 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 3: that there are hundreds of strangers willing to support me 1047 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 3: and help me. The only woman I ever desired this 1048 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 3: from and was my everything, been my whole life with 1049 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: her didn't support me and betrayed me. I will come 1050 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: back here to read the text to find comfort every 1051 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 3: time I need some an update. After my divorce, which 1052 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: might take years. And I read someone said about an 1053 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 3: emotional affair. Even if it is just an emotional affair, 1054 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 3: I cannot tolerate it, and I have no way to 1055 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: prove or make sure of it. She's cheating on me 1056 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: because she is with him alone or with her friends. 1057 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 3: But the way she and her friends hid it all, 1058 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 3: I can only assume he loves her ex fiance, otherwise 1059 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 3: she wouldn't hide it from me. And nobody should tolerate 1060 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 3: emotional affairs. There's no justice wherever it's a man or one. 1061 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 3: I thought all of this was just stereotypical, but now 1062 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 3: I know my country has hated on for a reason. 1063 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 3: Good luck to everyone, and I truly truly appreciate every 1064 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 3: single one of you. Have you seen Nathan for you? Yeah, 1065 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 3: the second season. Have you seen the rehearsal? No, it's 1066 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 3: from Nathan. 1067 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 2: I know about it. 1068 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this one part of the thing where he's 1069 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: like doing this exercise with the pilot and the pilot 1070 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 3: invites his girlfriend over to help him out, and come 1071 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 3: to find out, the girlfriend's pilot is a barista at 1072 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 3: a very famous barista place where barista's work. 1073 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: I mean the pilot's girlfriend. 1074 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the bibot's girlfriend, very famous barrista, and they're long 1075 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: long distance. She meets up with the guy, goes out 1076 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 3: for coffee with him, and she has an anklet that 1077 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: the guy gave to her, and he brings her flowers 1078 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 3: and stuff. And while they're in the cockpit doing this exercise, 1079 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 3: she's like explaining that to him, and you can see 1080 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 3: how visibly upset he is, but she can see like, oh, 1081 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that. That's just like a like 1082 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 3: a friend, doesn't me anything. If you bring flowers to 1083 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 3: someone on a date, that a friend. 1084 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: What is it a date? You just said on a date. 1085 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 2: If it's a date, then it's not a friend. Do 1086 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 2: you just mean if you bring flowers to someone? 1087 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like for example, you and I, Yeah, we 1088 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 3: go to get coffee, you bring me flowers. Is it 1089 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 3: a date or we just friends? 1090 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 2: We're just friends? 1091 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 3: I bring you flowers, you've gotten me flowers? Yeah, but 1092 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 3: like that's different. Okay, okay, anyways, anyways separate. Let's do 1093 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 3: a different one. Let's do it different. Angie and I 1094 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: are long distance. Yeah, Angie works out a barista place. 1095 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 3: This guy starts talking to her. Yeah, he's like, hey, 1096 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 3: let's go get coffee sometime, brings her flowers. Date it 1097 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 3: doesn't work because, yeah, okay, our relationship is different. I 1098 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 3: over got Yeah this is I think the wife used 1099 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: it that way. Yeah, just a longtime friend. Yeah, you 1100 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 3: need to know each other. I knew you wouldn't like it. 1101 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 3: That's why I didn't say anything. 1102 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 2: Which is a breach of trust. I don't I don't 1103 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 2: know if she cheated. We don't have He's really always 1104 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 2: working off of like zero evidence, not to say that 1105 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: he's not wrong. 1106 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was selfish. 1107 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: Though she was selfish, she still broke his trust, all 1108 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 2: grounds for you know, breaking off the marriage. But I 1109 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: do think the only thing I would say to him 1110 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: is that he seemingly has told everyone in her family 1111 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 2: that she cheated on him, And it seems like he 1112 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: said physically cheated on which we don't know. 1113 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 3: We don't know. We don't know if she did that, 1114 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's fine because he she 1115 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: wouldn't have stopped bothering him about it, though. 1116 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it's fine that he like broke 1117 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: up and stuff. 1118 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 3: I just think, wait, do you think it's fine that 1119 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 3: he messaged everyone in the family. 1120 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 2: That's the only thing is that I feel like he 1121 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 2: assumed a lot of things and messaged them about all 1122 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: of his assumptions as if they were fact. That is 1123 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: the only thing I'm like, Eh, it's like, yeah, you 1124 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: could absolutely message them and be like, hey, we're breaking 1125 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: this off because of this and this reason. This is 1126 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 2: the information I have. 1127 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: That's why I think more evidence comes into play. 1128 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like it's a I don't know 1129 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 2: the literally, like he is total right to divorce her 1130 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 2: if he wants to tell the family why he's divorce 1131 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: and her. Sure, However, I think to say that she 1132 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: physically like it seems like he's implying that he told 1133 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 2: them that she physically cheated with this guy, as if 1134 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: it's fact, when he doesn't know that. 1135 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 3: We could have make it constructed a better. 1136 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only thing. 1137 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, you need screenshots at that point, you need 1138 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 3: time stamps, you need all that kind of things. M Yeah, 1139 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 3: there's got to be a job that someone creates these 1140 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 3: messages for people. Yeah, Hey, can you send a mass 1141 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 3: email out to my family that my wife cheated on me. 1142 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 3: Here's all the evidence I have. Can you make it 1143 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 3: look pretty. 1144 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: Partifle my wife cheated on me, group text or group 1145 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: last text. 1146 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 3: Last definitely a chat GBT plug in that does that thing. 1147 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: Man. 1148 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 3: Guys, that's the end of that story, oh dang yep, 1149 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: and the end of this episode. So if you love us, 1150 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 3: make sure to subscribe We love you, and see it 1151 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 3: tomorrow