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Speaker 1: Ron Anian, the ball bearings had fallen out of the

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Speaker 2: The car Doctor, my.

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Speaker 3: Thought or direction is a sticky caliber. I just want

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember a grand Cherokee in fourteen John.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take their call

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Speaker 1: at eighty five five five ninety nine hundred and now

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Speaker 1: hes running. Welcome. I love getting here together with you

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Speaker 1: see that Colorado's in the news this week. Colorado has

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Speaker 1: become the first state to pass right to repair the

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Speaker 1: law for farmers all right, because it was an issue

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Speaker 1: for farmers. They couldn't work on their tractors, they couldn't

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Speaker 1: they require dealer proprietary information. And Colorado has now passed

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Speaker 1: the law for right to repair for farmers. So can

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Speaker 1: good stuff to see. Let's get over to Florida and

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Speaker 1: talk to Bob thirteen Chrysler and some questions about an

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Speaker 1: ABS unit. Yes, Bob, welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how can I help?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. And I'm glad

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Speaker 4: to hear about the farmers. We do all need the food.

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Speaker 1: Well, we kind of got to eat, right, It's sort

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Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. So okay, I got to twenty thirteen, two

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Speaker 4: got plenty of horsepower. But the ABS unit went out

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Speaker 4: And I tried to get one, and it was none

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Speaker 4: And I've had people tell me about used ones and

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Speaker 4: guess they have to put them on the computer. But

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Speaker 4: I've had other dealers tell me you can't do that

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Speaker 1: So are you are we speaking about the hydraulic unit

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Speaker 1: Side, Okay. So the question is there's a company out there,

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Speaker 1: going back five company by the name of module Masters,

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, Ron, what about module Masters. I've completely

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Speaker 1: probably match it. By VIN. Can I put this on

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Speaker 4: Well, what I've done, Yeah, Chrysler told me five o two.

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Speaker 4: And they charged me three hours labor, the R and R,

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Speaker 1: From right, Well, it sounds like it sounds like the

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Speaker 4: Well, this is the Christler. I mean, this is my

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Speaker 1: Oh but oh, but the part alone from Chrysler was

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you got to compare apples to apples. So

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it and and and quite frankly,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're getting it from the christ deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think anybody else is going to be

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Speaker 4: When I look at the trade in on my car,

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, there's that, But but what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: got to look at replacement cost, Bob. So let's let's

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Speaker 1: make it round numbers. Your car's worth five grand? Okay,

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Speaker 4: Nothing? If you want to do one. You got to

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Speaker 1: Well, right, you know, but what are you gonna buy

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Speaker 4: Of those, right, I only got stepped seventy two thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: But you get my point. You're still in that ranging game,

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Speaker 1: Your concern, quite frankly, is it's a talk with your mechanic. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Well? I got nothing savings to pay for it?

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Speaker 1: So right, but but you know budget it, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Well, but why not do this? All right? And it's

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Speaker 1: the car repair I may need this year, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're driving a ten year old car that's

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Speaker 6: I'm doing just great and get you sound good too.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's almost a follow up to the last caller

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Speaker 1: It's it comes down to it's marketing. We want to

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Speaker 6: And you know, I take care of my car, you know,

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Speaker 1: The issue becomes though that you know, why why go

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Speaker 1: pay for it, Micah, As always, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you next time I'm running any and I'll

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Speaker 3: This, coming back right up.

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Speaker 1: With perment pluck back grounding the car doctor. Let's get

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the card doctor. Sure, how can I help?

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Speaker 8: Ron, thanks for taking my call. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thanks you, after your thank you. After a year and

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Speaker 8: Of course, does it?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? I appreciate the trust. Does it? Does it

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Speaker 1: They're trickle charging the battery. Now I can't say I

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00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: can't say that it works on every vehicle because I've

435
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: never sat down to look at every vehicle, which would

436
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: probably be impossible. But you know, I've every vehicle I've

437
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: ever connected to in the last fifteen years. And the

438
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: way I will do this is to see if the

439
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: theory works. I will take a memory saver. You know,

440
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: we have a small memory saver in the shop. When

441
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: we disconnect the batteries, we will plug the memory saver

442
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: in to see, you know, will it hold memory. And

443
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: we'll plug it in, turn it on, and we'll measure

444
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: standing voltage at the battery and we'll watch standing voltage

445
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: at the battery go up slightly, which tells us we

446
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: have a connection via the wires to the battery, if

447
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, right, So, you know, that

448
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: tells me it's working. If it passes the memory saver test,

449
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: that the battery voltage goes up, thing, right, then I

450
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: know this will work. So i'll you know, we put

451
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: a little tablet on it. You can find them on Amazon,

452
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: you can find them on eBay. You know, you might

453
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: find them at your local hardware store. They're just solar

454
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: powered trickle chargers and you can just suction cup them

455
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: to the indie side of the windshield. Uh, you know,

456
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: and just if you keep the wind shield clear and

457
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: it's got sun, it's going to produce a voltage. Now

458
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna trickle charge it. It's going to be real low.

459
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: You know. The other option is do you just buy

460
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: a trickle battery trickle charger, which you could do, but

461
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: because it sits outside, it's gonna get a little sloppy

462
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: with cords and animals and you know, blah blah blah.

463
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: And at least this way, you use the tablet piece.

464
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's.

465
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Speaker 8: Gonna work, and that'll trickle charge the hybrid batteries.

466
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh you want the hybrid battery or the vehicle battery.

467
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 8: I'm sorry I should I thought you were going away.

468
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 8: It's the hybrid battery if we don't use it on

469
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 8: a regular basis, And what is it what's the best

470
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 8: way to to keep the batteries, the hybrid batteries at

471
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Speaker 8: their optimum level.

472
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's a whole other can of worms. And that

473
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: I've never I've never had this question. I've never even

474
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: thought about it. I don't think there's an issue there.

475
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: I think that I think that battery is going to

476
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: maintain itself over time, and then once you go out

477
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: and start the gas engine, it's not going to allow

478
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: the gas engine to cut out and run off the

479
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: hybrid battery until the hybrid battery finds its state of

480
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: charge all right.

481
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 8: No longer, regardless if it sits for I don't know,

482
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 8: a week or so, right, yeah, I for that week,

483
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 8: we're not worried.

484
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: Okay, for that for that week, we're not worried. If

485
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: if it's sat, for if it's sat for three months,

486
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: I think the vehicle battery will go dead before the

487
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: hybrid battery. And you know, I've never seen case where

488
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: the hybrid battery has lost its charge, except for something

489
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: that may be sat six months or longer. I had

490
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: one rare occurrence where it's sat for a very very

491
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: long time. But you know, it's it's I'd be more

492
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: concerned about the vehicle battery. Is the vehicle ages over time?

493
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: You know, based on what we're seeing the amount of

494
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: electronics and cars today, vehicle batteries, you know, it used

495
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: to be five years was the rule of thumb. I'll

496
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: take it down to four now. I think it's about

497
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: a four year life cycle. You know, it gets to

498
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: the point where it's got three maybe four years on it,

499
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: just put a battery and it don't wait on a

500
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: newer vehicle. So but I think you're fine like that,

501
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: all right, I will, you know, but you raise some

502
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: good points, Ken, I'm gonna do a little research this

503
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: week and see if I can come up with a

504
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: number and see what the discharge rate is and maybe

505
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: we can talk about it in the future, because I

506
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: think that would be good information.

507
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 8: That would be great. I'm really looking to get the

508
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 8: optimum life out of the hybrid battery. What is there

509
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 8: a magic formula so that your research would be appreciated?

510
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Yep, I will do that, all right, So give me

511
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: a couple of days and either well it won't be

512
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: next week, but the week after we'll talk about it,

513
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: all right.

514
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 8: Sir, Yeah, thanks very much, very well.

515
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: Enjoy your new vehicle. I mean that.

516
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 7: So.

517
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always good to do that, right, It's always listen,

518
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: you guys teach me sometimes as much as I try

519
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: to teach you. So it's just a good even exchange.

520
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: Let's pull over and take a pause. I'm running ny

521
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: in the car doctor at eighty five to five five

522
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: six zero nine, nine zero zero. We'll be back right

523
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back running the card Act. Let's go

524
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: to a Robert in Michigan. Robert, Welcome to the card Actor, sir.

525
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: How can I help?

526
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, So, I have a

527
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 7: nineteen sixty five Mustang. It's got a nineteen seventy three

528
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 7: H two engine in it, and when it was restored,

529
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 7: the people put an electronic ignition in it, and I

530
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 7: took and got it tuned up. And after I drove

531
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 7: it the very first time, I stopped at a stop

532
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 7: like and it stalled. I mean, I can't. Haven't got

533
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 7: it restarted since. And I put in an inline spark

534
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 7: tester and the only time it comes on is when

535
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 7: I first turned the ignition on. I'll see a spark,

536
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 7: and then as I'm cranking there's nothing. And when I

537
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 7: turn it off, I see a spark and it works

538
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 7: the same way if I put it on the distributor cap.

539
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 7: So I'm just trying to figure out what may be

540
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 7: going on with it.

541
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: So what brand electronic? And let me just ask the

542
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: goofy question. You you open up the carb, you look

543
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: down the throat, you see fuel, YadA YadA, Right, we've

544
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: got We've got plenty of gas here. It's just just

545
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: just to be certain that this isn't something more complicated

546
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: than spark in fuel. Just just pointing that out.

547
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 7: So, uh, you know, yeah, when when it first happened

548
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 7: and I was trying to get it started, I could

549
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 7: see this, see some smoke coming up at when I

550
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 7: was pumping. So I'm pretty sure there's fuel getting in there.

551
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's fine. I just you know, it probably

552
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: is just an ignition issue. So tell me about the

553
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: electronic ignition that's in there. Is this is this an

554
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: aftermarket something?

555
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 7: Is?

556
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: Is? Where did this come from?

557
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

558
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 7: Because originally it had points and convention sure, and so yeah,

559
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 7: they put in I'm not sure what brand or anything

560
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 7: of electronic ignition.

561
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: The electronics ring a bell, Not sure, okay, because that

562
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: was a that was a big you know, everybody wanted

563
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: it for their classic car. So you know, whether it's

564
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: whether it's electronic ignition or points, the principles are still

565
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the same. All right, You've got a standalone ignition coil,

566
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: right right, Okay, there's going to be a positive side

567
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: on the negative side, all right, do you still have

568
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: the slide on style forward? Connector kind of looks like

569
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: a half moon with two wires coming out of it,

570
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: little plastic housing, a little clip.

571
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 7: I'm not quite sure it's got two lug type nut

572
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: sign it.

573
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: Just you have nuts, you have nuts, and you have

574
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: nuts and washers. Right, yeah, okay, so they've they've changed

575
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: something and that and that, and that's okay. So you've

576
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: got to you've got a vault meter of some kind,

577
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: digital vaultometer or a regular analog meter something.

578
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: All right.

579
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 7: I checked the voltage on it, and there's no voltage

580
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 7: of course with it off, right. I turn it on

581
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 7: without cranking, and I get about six gates, and then

582
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 7: when I crank, it jumps up to about nine, so

583
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 7: I know I'm not hitting twelve.

584
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: Right, But so the question becomes, is there a ballast?

585
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: First of all, the six vaults sounds low? All right?

586
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: You know it should be. It was either it was

587
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: either twelve or I believe nine. Is there a ballast

588
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: resistor cutting the voltage down on the older style going

589
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: for points? But if this is electronic ignition, we shouldn't

590
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: need to do that. But again it will vary depending

591
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: upon what the electronic ignition, who the electronic ignition manufacturer

592
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: is and what they require, all right, the fact that

593
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: they've changed everything. We need more information. Maybe nine volts

594
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: is acceptable. What if you didn't. If you had said

595
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: to me, hey, Ron, I've got twelve volts going to

596
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: the positive side of the coil and I see no

597
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: pulses at the negative I would tell you we've probably

598
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: got an electronic ignition module failure of some type. But

599
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: now I'm concerned. I just want to know I've got

600
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: nine volts with the key or while cranking you said yes,

601
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: and then six volts just sitting there.

602
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 7: Right when you just turn it to on, it has

603
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 7: six voltes. Someone in cranking it jumps.

604
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: To okay, So do do this jump under the jump?

605
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, put a disconnected from the positive side of

606
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: the coil, Put an ome meter on one end the

607
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: coil end, and find the other leg where it comes

608
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: out to the ignition switch, which shouldn't be hard. And

609
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: if you just if you own that, if you own

610
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: that wire, what do you have? You know, we we

611
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: should have very low resistance. If we don't, then we've

612
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: got to think there's a ballast resistor in there somewhere.

613
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: So now I would look through the harness as somebody

614
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: modified the harness to include a ballast resistor.

615
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

616
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Right if if if you find that you have no

617
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: resistance or not no resistance, but you don't have high resistance,

618
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, as you're thirty five homes or you know,

619
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: twenty five homes some low number, then perhaps we've got

620
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: a bad ignition switch. So then you know, do we

621
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: have twelve vaults coming into the ignition, which we probably do,

622
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: but let's verify it. Do we have a bad ignition switch?

623
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: All right? Okay, this isn't hard to figure out. It's

624
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: the biggest problem is whose brand electronic ignition is it?

625
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: And what are they looking for it to make it work?

626
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: All right? You know, is the ignition module built into

627
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: the distributor or is it mounted separately outside bolted to

628
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: the firewall.

629
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 7: It's inside the distributors, so it looks like it's an original.

630
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Right, So it's it's somebody's aftermarket something. You know, is

631
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: there a brand name or a label on it? Have

632
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: you looked at it?

633
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 7: I haven't looked at it that close. And then I

634
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 7: popped off the cap just you know, do a quick

635
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 7: look inside see if the because it's still got the

636
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 7: little rotor piece in its sure, and so I just

637
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 7: looked in to see if it was clean and yeah everything.

638
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: So who who put it in the shop that did

639
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: the tune up?

640
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: No?

641
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: The uh well, the ignition electronic cognition was put in

642
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 7: by the Mustang specially placed that.

643
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 8: You stored it.

644
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Can you reach out to them and find out

645
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: whose brand electronic ignition is it? And can you get

646
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: a working diagram or schematic of what kind of voltage

647
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: requirements it looks for?

648
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 7: Yep, I can, because I send them texts every once

649
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 7: in a while, like you know, asking them, hey, where's

650
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 7: what's what's this supposed to do?

651
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Right? And and look at look at the ignition coil.

652
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, does the ignition coil say on it anywhere

653
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: ballast resistor required, dropping voltage required? You know, back in

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00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: the day Chrysler's had ballast resistors, and there was a

655
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: there was a ballast resistor style coil and a non

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: ballast resistance style coil, and you know, you couldn't mix

657
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: them up all right for obvious reasons, but there was

658
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: a warning usually stamped on the coil, so you know,

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00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: maybe underneath on the side, you know, if the coil

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: is bare, then I'm going to think maybe this is

661
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: a twelve volt coil needed to make this system fire.

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: So where's my twelve vault? If the coil says, hey,

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00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: ballast resistor system coil or something to that effect that

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00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: mentions a ballast resistor, then I'm gonna think the voltage

665
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: you're getting is correct, although it should be the other

666
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: way around. We should have twelve vaults with the key

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00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: on coming and then while cranking it'll it'll vary. It

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00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: probably does it have a switching ballast resistor. So a

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00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: bunch of questions here. We got a bunch of questions.

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00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: You got to go get more information. Talk to the

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00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: Mustang people, find out just what does this system require,

672
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: and then we can talk about it from there and

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00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: go from there. So this shouldn't be hard to figure

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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: out though. Once we know those answers, all right, give

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00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: me a call back Robert when you know more. I'm

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00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: running any in the car. Doctor, I'll be back right

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00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: after this.

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00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: It's not a pitch that she.

679
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: Was saying that.

680
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: She woke up and took me by the hand.

681
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: She's gone above me and Chevy Van and that's all

682
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: righte with me Okay a name.

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00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, hey ronin naming the card doctor, Let's get right

684
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: to it. Gene, you're there, Gene, Jeane? Are you there?

685
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: What happened to Gene? Jane disappeared? So Gene was actually

686
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: calling in that It's it's funny, right, that was Gene

687
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: that had called in about Uh. We had mentioned him

688
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. We were talking about no dashlights

689
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I wonder what happened there? We

690
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: lost them? So Gene, if you're if you're calling in

691
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: about dash lights, you know, is Jane there? Did I

692
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: see Gene come back?

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00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 7: So?

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00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: No, no, Gene? Okay, So Gene, if you're if you're

695
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: wondering what's going on? Uh, you know, the question was

696
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: does the vehicle have dashlights? Yes or no? So the

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00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: most common failure for dash lights on an O three

698
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: Ukon or that generation GM vehicle is going to be

699
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: the headlight switch. All right, Now, you could go down

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: to the illumination fuse. It's in the instrument panel fuse

701
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: block and you know, check the dark green wire. Just

702
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: make sure that the ilimination fuse and the instrument panal

703
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: fuse block is good. Right, that's number one. Just to

704
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: start with basics, and I'm sure you've done that already.

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 7: You know.

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00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: The next thing you can do is you can go

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00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: to the switch itself. There's gonna be a dark green wire.

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00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: It's on pin K. If you move the dimmer from

709
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: dim to bright and bright to dim, you'll see a

710
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: voltage variation, all right, you know. And then you can

711
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: go and look at there's a second wire there. There's

712
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: a light blue wire just pin A just you know,

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00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: do you have full voltage there? You know you're looking

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00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: for that as well. So those are the things you've

715
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: got to do. You got to go through a system

716
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: test for that, and at that point you'll know what

717
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: you got and you know you'll be fine. So it's

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's most common that that is

719
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: a bad headlight switch as far as failure. One of

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: the things you could try, and I pointed this out.

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00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're my answer. I'm guessing you did.

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00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: That's why you called in is cycle the dimmer switch?

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00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: You know a lot of those, you know, listen, how

724
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: often do we change dimmer voltage? How often do I

725
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: probably don't touch the dimmer switch in my because I've

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00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: got an O four Suburban, same switch. You know, uh,

727
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: you know, how often do we do we actually touch

728
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: that dimmer? Not often, And you know, just cycling the

729
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: dimmer high to low, low to high, we'll kind of

730
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: clean up and break the crud off the contacts and

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00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, allow it to start working again. So you

732
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: could look at that. By the way, that switch is

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00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: probably obsolete from GM. The one from my O four was.

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00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: So you got to kind of hunt around if you're

735
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: looking for an NS one or a GM one, But

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00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: they're out there, they're just tough to find. I hope

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00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: that does it for you. That does it for me.

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm on an ady and the card doctor. The mechanics

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00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you