Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Mollie John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Governor Nikki Haley said she gets
Speaker 1: dumber every time the vague Ramaswami speaks. She is not alone.
Speaker 1: We have such a great show today. Minority Whip Catherine
Speaker 1: Clark tells us what's going to happen if the government
Speaker 1: shuts down. Then we'll talk to Congressman Robert Garcia about
Speaker 1: what the Democrats are up to. But first we have
Speaker 1: the host of the next level, the Bullwarks, Tim Miller.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fast Politics, one of my favorite brilliant
Speaker 1: conservative minds. Though you're kind of a liberal now sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm a classically liberal.
Speaker 3: I'm classically liberal that used to be conservatives, Okay, not anymore.
Speaker 3: I guess you guys can have progressive. I'm taking liberal.
Speaker 3: The magas can have conservative.
Speaker 2: How's that okay?
Speaker 1: My friend and yours, Tim, Thank you Tim for joining us.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan and a frequent flyer in the Tamiller world.
Speaker 1: You watched that debate last night. I only made it
Speaker 1: an hour.
Speaker 3: Well, I said it was all this morning, I'm hungover.
Speaker 3: I went to see Beyonce last night, and this was true.
Speaker 3: You know, this was tough for me because you know,
Speaker 3: I have a job. People want to hear when I
Speaker 3: think about things, even really stupid things like this is
Speaker 3: the second primary debate, and so I felt this guilt,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I was like I should be watching this.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, Beyonce only comes to
Speaker 3: town once and it'll be there on TVR. And boy
Speaker 3: did I make the right decision because she was amazing
Speaker 3: and that debate was pointless, totally pointless. You didn't you
Speaker 3: left after an hour, so you didn't hear any body
Speaker 3: even criticize the person winning by forty points, except for
Speaker 3: Chris Christy, who offered the single cringiest attack line in
Speaker 3: debate history.
Speaker 1: With Donald Duck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was horrible.
Speaker 3: It was like he'd practiced it in a mirror and
Speaker 3: he was so proud of himself and he was like,
Speaker 3: there's this big build up to it, and I was like, oh, boy,
Speaker 3: he's really going to give him one now, and then
Speaker 3: it was Donald Duck. I was like a whole body cringe.
Speaker 1: I'm continually underwhelmed by Chris Christy as a spoiler, Like
Speaker 1: I just think he is a person who is desperate
Speaker 1: for attention. I don't really believe that he has some
Speaker 1: kind of quinsotic quest to bring down Trump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been with you on this one, and I've
Speaker 3: been kind of an outlier never Trump world while not
Speaker 3: worrieding worcause it seems like Donald Trump's going to win
Speaker 3: and kind of all this is and not win the
Speaker 3: primary and all of this strategorizing is kind of unnecessary
Speaker 3: as doesn't really matter. But still, in the event that
Speaker 3: there was an actual candidate that rose to which where
Speaker 3: they had a chance to beat Trump, that's not getting
Speaker 3: Chris Christy.
Speaker 2: Republican voters hate him.
Speaker 3: And so in that event, having Chris Christy in this
Speaker 3: race in New Hampshire is a huge help to Trump, right,
Speaker 3: because Chris Christy is going to get you know, whatever
Speaker 3: fifteen ten percent newsree whatever ends up getting, and then
Speaker 3: vote would have gone to you know, Nicky Haley or
Speaker 3: whoever else, right, And so he's taking voters away from
Speaker 3: people that could you know, that at least have a
Speaker 3: better change than he does. And so like this whole
Speaker 3: thing is just egomaniacal and I don't think that he's
Speaker 3: done anything really to advance the Well, the only thing
Speaker 3: that he's done they'll give him credit for is he
Speaker 3: does go on Fox and occasionally break their bubble of disreality.
Speaker 3: And I do appreciate that. But I think that he
Speaker 3: could do that without being a candidate for presidents, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, Gavin Newson is doing that, right.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say Gavin Newsom mayor pete.
Speaker 1: But I do want to get into this idea because
Speaker 1: I am not a Republican, nor am I even really
Speaker 1: Republican adjacent though I do adore you guys at the bullwork,
Speaker 1: but I in my heart and I would never vote
Speaker 1: for her, and I don't believe for anything she stands for.
Speaker 1: But on Earth too, there is a world where Nikki
Speaker 1: Haley is the nominate.
Speaker 3: Sure, it's a makeup of the parties are different, right,
Speaker 3: and so this is the thing, and maybe it's on
Speaker 3: Earth one twelve years ago.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I'm people to understand about the Republican
Speaker 3: Party is that there was always this like push and
Speaker 3: pull between the tea party is types, the non college
Speaker 3: more you know, culturally conservative parts of the party, and
Speaker 3: then your kind of chamber of commerce, whatever, country club
Speaker 3: Republican whatever majority of you want to use right right
Speaker 3: tax cuts.
Speaker 1: The people who held their nose and voted.
Speaker 3: For tax cuts exactly, the country club side of the
Speaker 3: party was winning for a while, you know, because it
Speaker 3: felt more electable and the party was about split in half.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Then Trump comes in and a huge swaff of those
Speaker 3: people myself and the board card included less the party.
Speaker 3: So we're not in the party anymore. And then a huge,
Speaker 3: huge new group of people came in of people that
Speaker 3: only liked the culture war stuff. They don't care at
Speaker 3: all about cutting spending and you know, a strong military
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Okay, so now the party breakdown
Speaker 3: is like seventy thirty or maybe seventy five twenty five
Speaker 3: towards people that want the maga culture war stuff versus
Speaker 3: the people that, you know whatever, are the older, more traditional,
Speaker 3: you know, your father's Republican. So Nikki Haley, sure, if
Speaker 3: the parties hadn't changed their voters, she could have won
Speaker 3: a primary, but they did, right, and so now we're like,
Speaker 3: you had to deal with the party that you have,
Speaker 3: And like I knew she was, you know, I knew
Speaker 3: what well I knew nikkiy Holly didn't do well. Last
Speaker 3: night I started getting text from my democratic consultant friends
Speaker 3: who are like, I'm really thinking Nikki's doing well, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yep, I used to get these texts
Speaker 3: about John Huntsman too. Okay, we finished in.
Speaker 1: Last because the problem is that MAGA world so no
Speaker 1: longer looks like normal political discourse. That in order to
Speaker 1: succeed in that, you have to be an outlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, an outsider for sure. Yeah, Outliernny and I just
Speaker 3: signed that, But yeah, you have to be somebody that
Speaker 3: is expressing a disdain for the existing political system. Because
Speaker 3: the maguaters hate the existing politicalsm they hate the existing elites. Right,
Speaker 3: this is why Vivic does well. He thought like he's
Speaker 3: charming or that he has any special skill, you know,
Speaker 3: candidate skills. He just can read the room, like that's
Speaker 3: his only skill. He can read the room.
Speaker 1: And talk really really fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just like created this identity in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: That was like, Okay, I guess I'll just say all
Speaker 3: the stuff that the people like and like that kind
Speaker 3: of works for him, you know exactly, even nomine but
Speaker 3: you know, at least he's like engaging them on things.
Speaker 3: And they care about that is what. So if Trump
Speaker 3: disappeared on the face of the planet god willing, you know,
Speaker 3: these people would look for somebody else that does that,
Speaker 3: that is an outsider, that doesn't sound like a politician,
Speaker 3: that is willing to say crude things. It's willing to
Speaker 3: be cruel and mean to elites and trans people and whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: and that wants would be more isolated, Like that's what
Speaker 3: these folks want.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I never understood about Trump World. I
Speaker 1: always thought, and this is where I really messed up.
Speaker 1: I always thought, eventually the people will say that Trump
Speaker 1: is a lead and that this whole thing has been
Speaker 1: a complete lie, and they'll rebel or stay home or something.
Speaker 1: But that has not quite happened. I thought that there
Speaker 1: would be a moment of reckoning, but there has been
Speaker 1: no moment of reckoning. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So in twenty sixteen, right, we kind of went through this.
Speaker 3: I went to this with you, where there's this theory
Speaker 3: of the case. I think it was defensible. At the time.
Speaker 3: It was like, let's avoid him, right, you don't want
Speaker 3: to get in the mud with him, and eventually people
Speaker 3: get serious. Right, I think it was a defensible theory
Speaker 3: at the time. It turned out to be totally wrong.
Speaker 3: People were not going to get serious. They liked him actually,
Speaker 3: and the better approach would have been the opposite, to
Speaker 3: try to kill him in the crib and to go
Speaker 3: at him early. We messed up. I don't know that
Speaker 3: if killing the crib strategy would have worked or not.
Speaker 3: We don't know. But we know that the avoid him
Speaker 3: and try to delay the reckoning as long as possible
Speaker 3: strategy doesn't work because everybody tried it last time, literally
Speaker 3: every candidate. We're now eight years later and these guys
Speaker 3: are all doing the same thing. They haven't learned anything,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. There was a theory for a
Speaker 3: little while some of them were going to be VP,
Speaker 3: but Trump says, you, like, I'm not going to beg
Speaker 3: any of them for V paid, So like, what are.
Speaker 1: They all doing, hud secretary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this JVL line and the triad job the last
Speaker 3: and the blog and the triad. He wrote this.
Speaker 2: There was no Republican presidential debate last night.
Speaker 3: There was only a collection of people playing make the
Speaker 3: lead and apply it media enabling them like that's just it, right,
Speaker 3: Like they did not they are not trying to compete
Speaker 3: against him, and I think that these people are so
Speaker 3: dumb that they really genuinely think that this failed Ted
Speaker 3: Cruz Marco Rubio strategy of last time, it's still their
Speaker 3: best bet and otherwise I have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems very bizarre. I also think like one
Speaker 1: of the signs that your debate is really the undercard
Speaker 1: debate is that it's on Fox Business. Like the Fox
Speaker 1: Business people like this sort of dismay that Larry Kudlow faced,
Speaker 1: you know, doing this, like there was a sense in
Speaker 1: which this was really they had really relegated this to
Speaker 1: the B B B team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean so the Steward Varney and the
Speaker 3: best part of their bait was the intro when Barney
Speaker 3: couldn't pronounce the name of its co moderator from Univision.
Speaker 2: I feel like you should practice that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was like he's sputtered. I thought
Speaker 3: my WiFi went out or something, spluttering trying to mention
Speaker 3: her name. I mean, I get literally, you know, it'd
Speaker 3: be a perfect spoof for a Saturday in their lives bid.
Speaker 3: But the other only other good thing, I guess, Dana Prino.
Speaker 3: Everyone else is criticizing her to the survivor question at
Speaker 3: the end of Taiku, would you vote off the island?
Speaker 3: But I thought that was the most relevant question of
Speaker 3: the debate. Actually, her point was right that having seven
Speaker 3: people on the Ian's trump when he has fifty percent
Speaker 3: of the vote is insanity, and so she was just
Speaker 3: trying to nudge them. And you know, here we are today.
Speaker 3: The opposite is have Janet have you seen this? Just
Speaker 3: it just popped on Drudge Thursday morning. You know, Youngkin,
Speaker 3: the Youngkin buzz is back. There's now a big summit
Speaker 3: next month about getting then Youngkin in racing. It's just
Speaker 3: it's like, what another milk toast, because that'll do Yeah,
Speaker 3: another milk toast? Business Republican in a feeze list, Like,
Speaker 3: how is he gonna do any better than the people
Speaker 3: that are already in the race. The whole thing is
Speaker 3: just lunacy.
Speaker 1: I mean, and really, what they need, if they were
Speaker 1: to take control of this sinking ship is for everyone
Speaker 1: to get by one candidate. The moderators clearly were very
Speaker 1: out of control, right, They couldn't control the crowd. They're
Speaker 1: screaming at each other. We got Doug Bergham complaining, and
Speaker 1: I mean there were just so many really unlikable people
Speaker 1: doing unlikable things last night. But the questions were oddly
Speaker 1: like childcare, this is not republic the Republican Party's wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: I mean, was Dana Perino trying to pull a fast one?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of being stealing, bad for Jesse, yet I
Speaker 3: had to feel bad for him being a professional having
Speaker 3: to listen to it. The sound was so horrible in there.
Speaker 3: They couldn't figure out how to work the mic. It
Speaker 3: really was waiting for a leve hole like production bodies
Speaker 3: and then the substance. You got to try sometimes to
Speaker 3: ask them substantive issues, even though most of them don't
Speaker 3: want to talk about anything substance of, except like, you know,
Speaker 3: the two things that you know, wokeness in.
Speaker 2: The border or whatever, and Nikki Haley's curtains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did think the funniest subjective question was
Speaker 3: when Dana Brino asked Mike Pence about Obamacare, and so
Speaker 3: you got to repeal Obamacare I don't like And Mike
Speaker 3: Fence then goes on a two minute answer about how
Speaker 3: he wants to speed up the death penalty process.
Speaker 1: Yes, speed up the death penalty and then faith based
Speaker 1: mental health.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he thought this was gonna be a big
Speaker 3: applause line. You know, He's just like, we're going to acceit,
Speaker 3: you them, and then the crowd is like, what are
Speaker 3: you talking? Like the dead silence of the crowd to
Speaker 3: his attempted applause line, and then Dana is like, so,
Speaker 3: I guess we're stuck with Obamacare. Then you know, I
Speaker 3: got he said, you didn't answer, and then he still
Speaker 3: has no answer.
Speaker 2: I get.
Speaker 3: They haven't been even attempted. Say what you want about
Speaker 3: ship Jem's policies. Maybe not your listeners didn't like all
Speaker 3: of them, but he.
Speaker 2: At least was serious.
Speaker 3: You know, if he was good taking on Trump, he
Speaker 3: was at least serious about his policy proposal. You ask
Speaker 3: him about healthcare, he would give you a boring eight
Speaker 3: point answer. So at least he is serious about the process.
Speaker 3: And these guys don't even have that. It's like, if
Speaker 3: you're not going to challenge Trump, if you're not going
Speaker 3: to really compete, then at least have something to offer,
Speaker 3: something of substance. It's just it's nothing. They had nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean just incredible, incredible stuff. And I
Speaker 1: mean Mike Pence was vice president, and he could not
Speaker 1: get out a coherent answer, and the idea that you're
Speaker 1: going to do the death penalty for people who are
Speaker 1: mass shooters, for who many of whom actually kill themselves
Speaker 1: right right, who are quite interested in death?
Speaker 2: Like, I think that actually sweetens the pomps.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, it's like the least important candidate and
Speaker 3: the least important question, but I just couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 3: help myself, but like rewind it and re listened to
Speaker 3: it because it was just so bizarre. Who Rick Thence begins.
Speaker 3: It was kind of this heartfelt, earnest thing. He's like,
Speaker 3: I have grand children and we need to stop these
Speaker 3: mass shootings and we need to be serious about it.
Speaker 3: And that was kind of like, you know, I sort
Speaker 3: of sat up in my chair and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: is Mike Pence can't offer maybe a different view on
Speaker 3: gun control or something. And then he's like, no, we're
Speaker 3: gonna speed up the death penalty for mass shooters. So
Speaker 3: I was like, what most of these guys killed themselves.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about it? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was not as baffling as faith
Speaker 1: based mental health you pray away the depressed.
Speaker 3: Hey, people need what is it called the third space?
Speaker 3: People like there are men in this country that needs
Speaker 3: they want to get it from church groups. That's great, okay,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's not solving the problem here.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible the hoops that these people will
Speaker 1: jump through to not have anything to do with any
Speaker 1: kind of gum control. I'm curious to know. Now. Last
Speaker 1: night Donald Trump spoke about the about unions, but not
Speaker 1: two unions. The thing that I'm always struck by is
Speaker 1: like he just lies all the time. And like you said,
Speaker 1: you know it won't matter. In two years, there will
Speaker 1: be no more jobs because of electric vehicles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, speaking about lies. One of the reason why
Speaker 3: he keeps lying is because it works. You know, Republicans
Speaker 3: haven't learned it. I think we're twenty sixteen and the
Speaker 3: media has. It doesn't seem like they have. Either everybody
Speaker 3: like mainstream outlets, Gnzert else or like repeating his lie
Speaker 3: that he was going to speak to the union group,
Speaker 3: he was speaking at a non union shop and it
Speaker 3: was like the boss that invited it, and you know
Speaker 3: the people there, like one of the interviewers there. There
Speaker 3: was at least one local news reporter doing his job
Speaker 3: like went up to people with like UAW for Trump
Speaker 3: signs and shirts and was like, are you a member
Speaker 3: of the UAW And they're.
Speaker 2: Like no, no.
Speaker 3: But that's why he lies, you know, partially because you
Speaker 3: can keep getting away with that. Obviously, the substance was
Speaker 3: also cannot hyperbolic nonsense to me. It's more just like
Speaker 3: he got credit for pretending to do the thing that
Speaker 3: Joe Biden did.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's frustrating and it is worth wondering why the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel guilty talking about this because I
Speaker 1: feel like people are mad at me for going on
Speaker 1: television and saying this. But I don't care, especially straight reporters.
Speaker 1: I understand that it's hard and you don't lines cave reporters,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. News reporters I suppose to
Speaker 1: on the opinion side, but I know that they don't
Speaker 1: necessarily write their own headlines. But really, most people, eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the people only read your headlines. So if
Speaker 1: you have a headline that says Joe Biden too old
Speaker 1: and Trump has some other problems, that's it. That's your piece.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible reality but it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm not one of these guys. It's
Speaker 3: always just like the media is terrible. Media is terrible
Speaker 3: to me. There's certain things in media does well, and
Speaker 3: that they're humans everybody's you know, I hate the contrarianism,
Speaker 3: you know, knee jerk criticisms, but I got the substance
Speaker 3: of this in this instance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's one of the check on the subs of
Speaker 3: the Sistance. If you're like, if your short salary or
Speaker 3: the twheet is Donald Trump's going to speak to auto workers,
Speaker 3: and it's like people need to click on the article
Speaker 3: and then they look at it and say, well, not no,
Speaker 3: not really actually, Like then you know you're helping advance
Speaker 3: his misinformation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I am totally just sort of blown
Speaker 1: away by the level in which Republicans. I mean, even
Speaker 1: in my own life. Somebody just told me that they've
Speaker 1: changed their mind on the COVID vaccine because it was
Speaker 1: only tested on ten mice, and I was like, no, honey,
Speaker 1: there's such an information gap. I mean, this is not
Speaker 1: South Dakota. This is New York City.
Speaker 3: Even in South Dakota they have internet there, you know.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden passed broad dams. It is one of the
Speaker 3: things that assigned a bipartisan you know, people should be
Speaker 3: able to get the facts these days.
Speaker 1: I did really like, you know, I'm like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a sucker. And the only thing I liked
Speaker 1: in that debate was the Christy Nome advertisement.
Speaker 3: This I must have missed. I was fast forwarding on
Speaker 3: the replay.
Speaker 1: South Dakota, as many popular states do, has ads to
Speaker 1: beg people to move there.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure, and.
Speaker 1: This ad has her smiling and doing weird jobs that
Speaker 1: you could get if you lived in South Dakota.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was like it was pretty stupid, but I sort.
Speaker 2: Of like it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we do have like the lowest
Speaker 3: unemployment rate in history right now. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are like desperately saying, I
Speaker 3: just I just need to get to South you know,
Speaker 3: the bad Lands, teach there.
Speaker 1: But what's sort of on your radar right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm panicking, Molly, I'm panicking. That's what's on my radar.
Speaker 3: I'm carrying a paperbag around constantly, and I'm just going
Speaker 3: to be blowing into it for the next thirteen months.
Speaker 3: I think because the Republican resistance to Trump is nonexistent,
Speaker 3: and so you know, we're staring down the barrel of
Speaker 3: this guy in general election, and it's going to be
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to be able to sleep.
Speaker 3: I think that there should be more bad wedding. And
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at. That's what that's what, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm keeping my eye on. People are worried about bad wedding,
Speaker 3: not me. I want I want people to be bed
Speaker 3: wedding more. I'd like to see some damn sheets.
Speaker 2: The disturbing image.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim Miller, Thank you. Molly Catherine Clark is
Speaker 1: the Minority Whip and represents Massachusetts Fitts Congressional District.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fast Politics.
Speaker 1: Do we call you Whip Clark or or do we
Speaker 1: call you Representative Clark?
Speaker 4: Either one works agaid.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: So we are in this incredibly strange moment and congressional life.
Speaker 1: Can you talk us through where you guys are right
Speaker 1: now and what's happening.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is an incredibly strange time and a time
Speaker 4: of great danger for the American people. And what we're
Speaker 4: seeing is an extension of what we've seen since January
Speaker 4: when Speaker McCarthy went fifteen rounds and to achieve his
Speaker 4: title a speaker, he gave the gabble to Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 4: Green and the most extreme MAGA Republicans. So now we
Speaker 4: are on the verge of a shutdown because they are
Speaker 4: promoting an agenda that completely leaves out what the American
Speaker 4: people need to succeed. They're cutting social socquity, slashing public
Speaker 4: school funding, criminalizing abortion care in their march towards a
Speaker 4: national abortion band. So here we are days away from
Speaker 4: a shutdown. And what is the only way I can
Speaker 4: describe this is it is chaos here in the Republican GOP.
Speaker 2: In the House.
Speaker 1: Yesterday Marjorie Taylor Green, who is known for spreading anti
Speaker 1: Smitic conspiracy theories that cues control space lasers that caused
Speaker 1: forest fires, she did something really bizarre and extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that?
Speaker 4: You know every day it is bizarre extraordinary with Marjorie
Speaker 4: Taylor Green.
Speaker 1: She had an emotion to cut LAWD. Austin's salary down
Speaker 1: to a dollar.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: And Marjorie is good at saying all the quiet parts
Speaker 4: out loud, and her extremism continues on and here's what
Speaker 4: we're seeing is that was one example. Another example was
Speaker 4: an amendment of Lauren Bobert that cut all mentioned from
Speaker 4: the USDA of LGBTQ people that all but one Republican
Speaker 4: voted for. I think it is hard to take in
Speaker 4: the level extremism, a bigotry of racism that we are
Speaker 4: seeing reflected in these appropriation bills, and what we are
Speaker 4: headed for a shutdown for is promotion of this agenda.
Speaker 4: And it's important to note that here in Washington, it
Speaker 4: is the House GOP that is becoming this island of
Speaker 4: hatred and extremism, where we see the White House, House Dems,
Speaker 4: House Senate Dems, and Senate Republican saying, let's not do this.
Speaker 4: We have an agreement from back in June with the
Speaker 4: manufactured default crisis. Let's proceed with that. You know, it
Speaker 4: is always sort of an out of body experience when
Speaker 4: I find myself nodding an agreement with the tweets coming
Speaker 4: from Mitch McConnell. But Mitch McConnell is speaking rationally on this,
Speaker 4: and we have just the House geopine that is distinguishing
Speaker 4: themselves in all the wrong ways. And who is left
Speaker 4: out of this. It's the American people and this drum
Speaker 4: beat that they have had over months that shutdowns are
Speaker 4: good for people, it is all extension of as Kevin
Speaker 4: McCarthy himself said his conference, wanting to burn it all down.
Speaker 4: And this is going to have real and dramatic effects
Speaker 4: whether they shut down the government or whether they move
Speaker 4: forward on their extreme agenda. Either way, people at home
Speaker 4: who are trying to manage high costs of living with housing,
Speaker 4: with groceries, worried about their kids in school and thriving
Speaker 4: post pandemic. Everything they are going for is going to
Speaker 4: move us in the wrong direction. And so we have
Speaker 4: to take the fact that this is no longer some
Speaker 4: partisan bickering in Congress. This is about everyone else but
Speaker 4: the House GOP trying to move forward for the American
Speaker 4: people this point post pandemic, where economy is showing great
Speaker 4: signs of recovery, but we need to do more to
Speaker 4: cut costs for people, to get them into work, to
Speaker 4: make the investments that Democrats passed in the last Congress
Speaker 4: come to life for people. You know, it is just
Speaker 4: an incredible moment to watch Kevin McCarthy's failure to lead
Speaker 4: his conference past this extremism.
Speaker 1: It is incredible to see Mitch McConnell saying that he
Speaker 1: increas with Schumor and Congressional Democrats and not.
Speaker 2: These House Republicans.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that Nancy Pelosi was really
Speaker 1: careful about when she was the Speaker of the House
Speaker 1: was a lot of these people have been elected from
Speaker 1: very swingy districts or districts that are very evenly divided,
Speaker 1: and so to not make people in these very vulnerable
Speaker 1: districts have to vote on things that would alienate voters.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see motions brought by Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 1: Green and Lauren Babert, can you imagine Nancy Pelosi ever
Speaker 1: letting this kind of thing happen in her caucus. I
Speaker 1: mean not that you'd ever have people like Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 1: Green or Lauren Bobert in the Democratic caucuss, but can
Speaker 1: you imagine letting the sort of very controversial members take
Speaker 1: over the party like that?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. First of all, we don't have these extreme members,
Speaker 4: so let's start there. But you know, this is so
Speaker 4: about a march towards an abortion band across this country.
Speaker 4: They truly that is one of their top priorities, and
Speaker 4: what we are seeing are just, you know, amendments that
Speaker 4: should make our jaws drop, except that we see it
Speaker 4: every single day from them. But your point brings up
Speaker 4: a good one, because you know, it's sort of like, well,
Speaker 4: aren't there moderate Republicans across the aisle that you can
Speaker 4: work with? And what Kevin McCarthy's voting moving towards this
Speaker 4: extreme bringing these measures that whether it's slashing General Austin's
Speaker 4: salary to a dollar, whether it is getting rid of
Speaker 4: every equity commission throughout government, whether it is a tax
Speaker 4: on the LGBTQ Committee, these so called moderates vote for
Speaker 4: these amendments. They vote for this extreme agenda over and
Speaker 4: over again. And this really isn't just about your typical
Speaker 4: partisan fight. This is about how do we move forward
Speaker 4: as a country and a democracy, create an economy that
Speaker 4: works for everyone, but also make that march towards equality
Speaker 4: and justice. And you saw Tommy Tuberbill say it again,
Speaker 4: saying this quiet part out loud when he was talking
Speaker 4: about not voting for the Joint Chief of Staff Brown
Speaker 4: and saying, we think that our armed forces are not
Speaker 4: served well by diversity, and we want it to be
Speaker 4: a merit based military.
Speaker 5: I mean, wow right, I mean the whole idea is
Speaker 5: it's the mayor based military, and the military has spent
Speaker 5: many years sort of creating a military that reflects.
Speaker 4: Its people exactly. We cannot let these moments where we
Speaker 4: have the former president calling for the execution of General
Speaker 4: Millie for his idea of treason and that just becomes
Speaker 4: part of our normal daily expectations from this GOP. This
Speaker 4: is extremism. It is dangerous. It erodes democracy, and we
Speaker 4: are seeing it play out here in the House every
Speaker 4: single day, and we are not seeing those members and
Speaker 4: they have a very small margin standing up and saying
Speaker 4: we are going to choose the people of this country.
Speaker 4: We are going to choose those bounding ideals of liberty
Speaker 4: and justice and equality. Instead, they are choosing to fall
Speaker 4: in line and rule by fear of a primary that
Speaker 4: is sponsored by Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So McCarthy he could put together a cr or something
Speaker 1: and get Democratic votes. I mean, you could save him
Speaker 1: if you wanted to. Of course, that would also doom him,
Speaker 1: but that's not our problem. Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: world in which that happened.
Speaker 4: You know, this is the world that the answer is
Speaker 4: right there for the taking. This is a deal that
Speaker 4: we negotiated, that Kevin McCarthy negotiated with the President of
Speaker 4: the United States back in May, and in early June
Speaker 4: three hundred and fourteen members of the House of Representatives said,
Speaker 4: we accept this deal. Was it a compromise? Were there
Speaker 4: are things in there?
Speaker 2: I do not like?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But that was the deal we came to and
Speaker 4: we stood by it. The ink was barely dry when
Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy once again followed the Freedom Cack, the Freedom
Speaker 4: Denying Caucus over on an extreme agenda and completely ignored
Speaker 4: what he had just signed with the President of the
Speaker 4: United States as his compromise, backed up by a huge
Speaker 4: bipartisan vote. So the answer has always been there.
Speaker 2: But that's not.
Speaker 4: What any of this is about. This is about Speaker McCarthy,
Speaker 4: in his mind, doing everything he can to remain Speaker McCarthy,
Speaker 4: and he has told the American people he doesn't care.
Speaker 4: This is about his job, his security and their security.
Speaker 4: What they're dealing with, the issues they talk about around
Speaker 4: their family tables are completely not the object of what
Speaker 4: he's trying to do. So we have been ready, We
Speaker 4: are ready to avoid a shutdown that we know is
Speaker 4: going to inflect incredible pain on Americans. And the answer
Speaker 4: is right in front of us, and it is what
Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans are seeing, and it is
Speaker 4: what we are going to continue to push. This is
Speaker 4: a complete, once again, mega created problem, and the answers
Speaker 4: are already agreed to, have already been signed off on,
Speaker 4: and are just waiting for Kevin McCarthy to say yes to.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Menandez should resign?
Speaker 4: I think that that indictment is an extremely troubling document,
Speaker 4: and of course, as a member of Congress, as an attorney,
Speaker 4: I don't think that resigning is an admission of guilt.
Speaker 4: He has that presumption of innocence and I take that
Speaker 4: very seriously. But what I've watched is, you know, the
Speaker 4: people of New Jersey say to him that they think
Speaker 4: it's time for him to resign, and I think he
Speaker 4: has to listen to that.
Speaker 1: One of the things that Representative Summerlee, who was just
Speaker 1: on this podcast set, which I thought was really important point,
Speaker 1: was that Democrats have to be the party of anti corruption,
Speaker 1: and if they're going to go after people like Clarence
Speaker 1: Thomas for his incredible flouting of ethics laws, then they
Speaker 1: have to really, you know, just be incredibly clear about
Speaker 1: such things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right. And we have shown over
Speaker 4: and over again that we stand for what is right
Speaker 4: and we want to stand to make sure that those
Speaker 4: voices of people that don't get a lot of power
Speaker 4: in the halls of Congress are heard. And what we
Speaker 4: have to do in moments like this is think about
Speaker 4: those people who are busy with their own jobs making
Speaker 4: ends meet, busy trying to find childcare they need, and
Speaker 4: worried about will they be able to pay their bills
Speaker 4: and get ahead, that they view this all as increase
Speaker 4: cynicism towards government, when we very much need Americans to
Speaker 4: understand that that is not the whole picture here. That
Speaker 4: House Democrats are united and have remain united because we
Speaker 4: have them in mind, and we showed that when we
Speaker 4: had the majority, we were able to move these huge
Speaker 4: investments in them, and we are willing to fight to
Speaker 4: protect social Security, something they want to take away and
Speaker 4: keep coming back to. And we know how critically important
Speaker 4: that is to people at home. And we know that
Speaker 4: people understand that criminalizing abortion care a national abortion ban,
Speaker 4: is really a strike at their fundamental freedom, their freedom
Speaker 4: to make choices about their own lives without any member
Speaker 4: of Congress coming between them and their doctor and their
Speaker 4: faith and their family circumstances. And the American people understand this,
Speaker 4: and we have to continue to hold people accountable and
Speaker 4: to call this out. And at this moment, with this
Speaker 4: level of extremism, these maga Republicans that have taken over
Speaker 4: the GOP and the House, our message to the American
Speaker 4: people is we see you, We're fighting for you, and
Speaker 4: we're going to continue to do that work because it
Speaker 4: really is about the elections make a huge difference in
Speaker 4: our democracy, but it's also these daily votes and every
Speaker 4: single day House Republicans are choosing to side with Marjorie
Speaker 4: Taylor agree and not with the people who were sent
Speaker 4: here to serve.
Speaker 1: Is this shut down a fit a company or is
Speaker 1: there still a chance.
Speaker 4: Okay, we are going to continue to fight, but I
Speaker 4: think I think that the House GOP is going to
Speaker 4: find itself continue to be isolated, and I hope they
Speaker 4: will take notice of that. But if we look over
Speaker 4: their leadership and their tenure since January, I really don't
Speaker 4: see how they avoid a shutdown. They have been out
Speaker 4: there saying this is part of their agenda, that this
Speaker 4: is a way to get to extremism, that this is
Speaker 4: about how they continue on all these extreme issues that
Speaker 4: they want. But we're expecting the Senate to move ahead
Speaker 4: with the bipartisan cr and we hope that Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 4: and the leadership team will follow suit and do the
Speaker 4: right thing for the American people. It's in their hands.
Speaker 1: But Trump is the one who has set this shutdown emotion.
Speaker 1: Matt Gates is tweeting hold the line right, and that
Speaker 1: is Ultimately Trump is behind this.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Trump is behind all of this. That is who
Speaker 4: they answer to. That is who they set an agenda with.
Speaker 4: And you know, Trump has been very clear and is
Speaker 4: underscoring the point every day. This is an extreme, mega shutdown.
Speaker 4: It's what he wants, and they are trying to deliver
Speaker 4: it for him and the American people and what they
Speaker 4: need to impact. This will have on hungry moms and babies,
Speaker 4: on the beneficiaries of SNAP, on social security beneficiaries, the
Speaker 4: fact that they will be asking our military active duty
Speaker 4: troops to go to work without pay. I mean, all
Speaker 4: of this is something that Trump has told them is
Speaker 4: what he wants for this country. This is his bishop,
Speaker 4: and the House Goop seems to be here with the
Speaker 4: sole reason of enacting that vision into law.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Representative Clark, all right, thank you, Mollie.
Speaker 1: Representative Robert Garcia represents California's forty second congressional district. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Fast Politics, Congressman.
Speaker 2: Garcia, happy to be back.
Speaker 1: Thank you, very thrilled to have you.
Speaker 2: Yesterday.
Speaker 1: President Biden, first president ever walk with to walk with strikers.
Speaker 1: Got some people from Obama world pretty mad. This guy's
Speaker 1: really doing the progressive stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh man. I mean, look, I think there's no question
Speaker 2: that President Biden is the most progressive president of the
Speaker 2: modern era. He has time and time again shown that
Speaker 2: if he believes that government has a role to help people,
Speaker 2: and whether it's been the historic legislation, run infrastructure, or safety,
Speaker 2: and obviously recently with all the investments in client, he
Speaker 2: is really I think doubling down on kind of being
Speaker 2: that legacy from FDR and all the big programs that
Speaker 2: we had that really improved this country. And so I'm
Speaker 2: really proud of him. I think, you know, as a
Speaker 2: member of the Progressive Caucuss, we talk all the time.
Speaker 2: We are always just continue to be impressed by the
Speaker 2: actions he takes, and clearly I think the picket a
Speaker 2: visit was just one of those moments. So it's a
Speaker 2: really special moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the first time ever in history,
Speaker 1: Like that's a big deal. And then Trump is of
Speaker 1: course saying he's coming, but actually he's coming to a
Speaker 1: non union shop that is a sponsor. I mean, should
Speaker 1: we be surprised.
Speaker 2: No, I mean Donald Trump is, as we just know,
Speaker 2: just an unmitigated disaster. He is running away with this nomination,
Speaker 2: which is totally insane and crazy, sane, insane to me
Speaker 2: that there is anyone in this country that wants to
Speaker 2: nominate this criminal, the biggest grifter khn criminal to ever
Speaker 2: be in office, and that actually think that he actually
Speaker 2: has a vision for this country, which is anti worker,
Speaker 2: anti women, anti LGBTQ plus people, anti anything. It's really
Speaker 2: sad to see every time these polls come out, and
Speaker 2: polls are going to go up and down, but the
Speaker 2: fact that anyone is supporting this person is just is
Speaker 2: just linacy.
Speaker 1: It really is. I'm so struck by how insane this is.
Speaker 1: And Republicans are behaving like it's business as usual. Going
Speaker 1: back to progressive Biden News already endorsed by AOC and
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly right. I mean the party is united
Speaker 2: behind president, and that includes the progressive wing. I think
Speaker 2: look at what just happened around the Climate Corps. I mean,
Speaker 2: Sunrise is really leaning in on that.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that.
Speaker 2: So exciting. He's actually taking on issues that young people
Speaker 2: care about, that the next generation cares about. I have
Speaker 2: to laugh at some of the media's obsession with his
Speaker 2: experience and his age, and it's like he's delivering results.
Speaker 2: And that is partly because he is so experienced and
Speaker 2: has been Vice president, has been in the Senate for
Speaker 2: so long, and has you know, done local government. So hello, folks,
Speaker 2: we have actually the one person here that's beat Donald
Speaker 2: Trump once before. You know, we have not always been
Speaker 2: successful in that effort. He knows how to get it done.
Speaker 2: So let's go get you know, whatever concerns you have, like,
Speaker 2: shake those off, because we're going to get behind them.
Speaker 2: We've got to beat Donald Trump. We have a get
Speaker 2: democracy to save here exactly.
Speaker 1: And speaking of saving democracy, no, I'm just kidding. The
Speaker 1: Republican House continues its decline and decline and decline. There
Speaker 1: is now going to be an impeachment hearing. Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 1: wants to impeach Joe Biden for basically Matt Gates being
Speaker 1: mad at him discuss.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean, look, this is now the
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green Matt Gates Caucus. I mean, they completely
Speaker 2: control the Republican House. That's what they do. That's what
Speaker 2: it's very clear to Kevin McCarthy has essentially just handed
Speaker 2: them the keys to his speakership. The fact that we're
Speaker 2: now in this impeachment inquiry where there is zero evidence
Speaker 2: that links the president to any sort of business dealings
Speaker 2: that Hunter may have had, is insane and totally crazy.
Speaker 2: We all agree as Democrats, by the way, that Hunters
Speaker 2: should be held accountable. So whatever it is that he did, and.
Speaker 1: He's already been charged with the federal gun crime, which
Speaker 1: is a very unusual charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and so the judicial process, right, he's been
Speaker 2: moving forward, and so we support that. But the President
Speaker 2: has done nothing wrong here except for try to be
Speaker 2: a supportive father, you know, to some of the obviously
Speaker 2: has had some real challenges in their lives, and so
Speaker 2: this idea that they want to go after the president.
Speaker 2: They refuse to even look at the griff for example,
Speaker 2: of the Kushners who are profiting, you know, to two
Speaker 2: billion dollars from the Saudis in their investment firm two
Speaker 2: months after leaving the White House, or the twenty five
Speaker 2: million they're getting a month in fees, or all the
Speaker 2: grift that Iona made during from all the patents. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's actual corruption there likely, and so this idea that
Speaker 2: they don't want to even look at that but want
Speaker 2: to attack the president for something a son did it
Speaker 2: was a private citizen, is crazy. But we know these
Speaker 2: people are insane. They're literally nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So let's talk about what this impeachment hearing
Speaker 1: is going to look like. You are on the committee,
Speaker 1: what committee is doing? This explained to us, give us
Speaker 1: a little bit of the stuff.
Speaker 2: The impeachment inquiry process is in the House Oversight Committee,
Speaker 2: of which I sit on, and then of course, at
Speaker 2: some point, depending if this thing gets tractioned with the
Speaker 2: crazy Republicans, the Judiciary Committee will get involved. And that's
Speaker 2: that's the natural process. What we know today is that
Speaker 2: James Comer, who is leading the inquiry for the Republicans
Speaker 2: is basically just a liar. I mean, he just makes
Speaker 2: up conspiracy theories and then tweets him out or talks
Speaker 2: about him on Fox News, of which they just get
Speaker 2: debunked all the time. Remember this is the same person
Speaker 2: who for weeks and weeks was hyping up essentially a
Speaker 2: spy that Rudy Giuliani cooked up. And so it's the
Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani conspiracy show at the Oversight Committee. It's James
Speaker 2: Comer's witnesses that get debunked week after week, and they
Speaker 2: can't find anything on President Biden, who just happens to
Speaker 2: be a good guy. He's just a good man who
Speaker 2: is trying to do a job here. And so but
Speaker 2: we're going to push back. I'm honored to be on
Speaker 2: this committee with folks like AOC and Katie Porter. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you can learn from women like them and see
Speaker 2: them in action, they're really leading an effort. And our leader,
Speaker 2: Jamie Raskin is just I mean brilliant. So we're taking
Speaker 2: them on every step of the way.
Speaker 1: But wasn't there supposed to be whistleblowers. Weren't I promised whistleblowers.
Speaker 2: You were promised whistle blowers and all sorts of conspiracy theories,
Speaker 2: and you've got nothing. They can't find these people because
Speaker 2: they don't exist. And in fact, let's to get what
Speaker 2: step further, even in when they've deposed folks, right, when
Speaker 2: they've deposed folks and we've had folks in the room,
Speaker 2: the folks that they have brought in to find this connection,
Speaker 2: they've actually said the opposite. I mean they've literally said
Speaker 2: on the record, actually, I've never heard there be a linker.
Speaker 2: I've never heard President Biden actually involved in any of
Speaker 2: Hunter's business dealings. And so even when they bring witnesses,
Speaker 2: they basically flip on them because there's nothing there. It's
Speaker 2: just lie after lie. And let's let's be very clear,
Speaker 2: this is about re electing Donald Trump. This is about
Speaker 2: re electing their authoritarian dictator, want to be loser who
Speaker 2: is trying to get reelected to be president, and they'll
Speaker 2: do whatever it takes to damage the president and reelect
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He is directing this puppet show.
Speaker 1: This is one of these things that we know from
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon that he's trying to flood the zone right
Speaker 1: to be able to say, well, Trump got impeached and
Speaker 1: Biden got impeached, right to create a false equivalent, say.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. I mean they want their own,
Speaker 2: you know, impeachment of Biden for the election, and they've
Speaker 2: they've said as much. So I mean, look think about this.
Speaker 2: I mean, here we are on the eve of real, damaging,
Speaker 2: horrific possible government shutdown that could last and hurt a
Speaker 2: lot of folks, and they're focused on impeaching President Biden.
Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy with no evidence. So it's the
Speaker 2: Donald Trump Show every day for Republicans here, it's their leader,
Speaker 2: their fearless leader who they just love so much. And
Speaker 2: we're just gonna we're gonna just we're not going to
Speaker 2: take it though, We're going to push back whenever we can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's really important because remember so
Speaker 1: much of this is being done for Fox News sound bites.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's all Fox News and now they're in
Speaker 2: they're crazy conspiracy theories. Just so like the fact that
Speaker 2: they're talking about QAnon conspiracy theories now in Fox News
Speaker 2: and that they're parenting all of these lies, is this
Speaker 2: is a part of it's going to completely off the
Speaker 2: deep band, completely off the deep end, and so, I
Speaker 2: mean it's sad to see. I look, I'm a freshman
Speaker 2: member of Congress. I've only been here for eight months,
Speaker 2: and I'm already like, what is wrong with these people?
Speaker 2: And the fact that people elect these people? That Congress
Speaker 2: is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to our listeners what's happening right now
Speaker 1: with mighty Matt Gates and his relationship with Kevin McCarthy.
Speaker 2: I mean, wow, obviously we know that they hate each other.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's obviously clear. Matt Gates, we also know
Speaker 2: happens to be a lunatic caddles a lot of crazy folks.
Speaker 2: He is basically every day is essentially threatening to call
Speaker 2: up a vote for a speaker election. And we know
Speaker 2: that he was problematic for a McCarthy after the initial
Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen plus votes we had to take the
Speaker 2: first time. But he keeps threatening it, and I think
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why, you know, McCarthy holding
Speaker 2: onto power is the most important thing, and so he
Speaker 2: caves into folks like Matt Gates and his demands, Like
Speaker 2: what's happening right now where we're completely essentially going off
Speaker 2: of fiscal cliff and hurting workers because they don't care
Speaker 2: actually about the American people. And Matt Gates is one
Speaker 2: of the most extreme voices in the country. And Kevin McCarthy,
Speaker 2: as much as he dislikes him, listens to him and
Speaker 2: allows Matt Gates and the Margine Taylor Greens to run
Speaker 2: to run his caucus. And I think that's really said.
Speaker 2: Matt Gates has a lot of influence within that Republican caucus,
Speaker 2: and Kevin McCarthy knows it. But they also also happen
Speaker 2: to do not like each other very much, and so
Speaker 2: you know, that's on them. Democrats are honestly pretty united,
Speaker 2: and I think that's the key difference between what's happening
Speaker 2: right now. If you look at our side and we've
Speaker 2: got progressives and you know, folks that may be more moderate,
Speaker 2: we're on the same page. They're the mess. They're the
Speaker 2: ones that are in disarray.
Speaker 1: Right, the government doesn't need to shut down, None of
Speaker 1: this is needed, right.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean, first of all, let's be clear,
Speaker 2: there already was a deal on funding the government that
Speaker 2: was made between President Biden and mccar and we had
Speaker 2: that deal set in place. We had set essential targets
Speaker 2: for funding the government, and then, of course McCarthy now
Speaker 2: chose to go back on those and he's now lying
Speaker 2: to the American public saying that he wants a new
Speaker 2: deal with the President. We already had a deal, and
Speaker 2: the present's been very clear there is nothing to negotiate
Speaker 2: because we already negotiated it. And so instead now McCarthy
Speaker 2: wants to have all these conditions and cut funding for
Speaker 2: veterans and kept funding for kids that are low income
Speaker 2: and food stamps and all this crazy stuff. It's really unfortunately,
Speaker 2: it's really shameful, but we've also kind of expect this
Speaker 2: of him and his leadership. He is pretty safe to say,
Speaker 2: the weakest, you know, speaker in modern history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shocked, and by shocked, I mean not at
Speaker 1: all shocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, So let's play this out.
Speaker 1: Seems like we're going to get into a shutdown. What
Speaker 1: are the options here once we're in this shutdown for
Speaker 1: Democrats getting us out?
Speaker 2: The few different options. I think the first important thing
Speaker 2: is that the Democrats in the White House right now
Speaker 2: are holding a line and essentially reminding the country that
Speaker 2: this is an extreme maga republican shutdown. They made this decision.
Speaker 2: We had a deal, and what they want to essentially
Speaker 2: reopen the government is cutting all sorts of benefits, healthcare programs,
Speaker 2: for a low income folks food program, all of these
Speaker 2: crazy ideas, ideas, by the way, that are not being
Speaker 2: promoted by the kind of quote unquote moderates of their party,
Speaker 2: but by the extreme the Matt Gates's and the Paul
Speaker 2: Gosars of the world. These are the folks that are
Speaker 2: basically driving these programs. And let's be very clear that
Speaker 2: includes but by the way, cutting additional healthcare options for
Speaker 2: women in this country as it relates to abortion and
Speaker 2: abortion and access and so that those issues are they're
Speaker 2: not starters for us. They're non starters for us. And
Speaker 2: so we're going to hold the line. Now. If they
Speaker 2: have to choose not to fund the government, which is
Speaker 2: horrific by the way, we're talking about millions of people
Speaker 2: impacted across the country, then at that point they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to make a decision, and the moderates in their
Speaker 2: cockers have to make a decision if they want to
Speaker 2: actually cut some sort of deal that could actually pass.
Speaker 2: Senate Republicans right now are working with Senate Democrats. They're
Speaker 2: going to send over to us of some sort of
Speaker 2: package continuing resolution at least from the government for a
Speaker 2: period of time, and that's what we hope we can
Speaker 2: vote for. We need at least continue funding the government
Speaker 2: until we can figure this all out and until Kevin
Speaker 2: McCarthy can get control of his magat caucus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting to see, like we find ourselves in
Speaker 1: a situation where you can't be a moderate Republican. Right,
Speaker 1: So McCarthy has this four vote majority, which is pretty small,
Speaker 1: and you have all of these Republicans who have won
Speaker 1: in Biden districts. I mean, really, Republicans would not have
Speaker 1: the House had it not been for the enormous and
Speaker 1: I can say this because we're not on cable television
Speaker 1: fuck up that happened in New York and California. And
Speaker 1: so it does seem to me like this is a
Speaker 1: pickup opportunity for Democrats because we will be cruising. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing that we know historically is that the
Speaker 1: party it causes the shutdown, which is by the way,
Speaker 1: always Republicans, tends to get blamed for the shutdown.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And because we're not on cable I
Speaker 2: will agree with the biggest fuck up possible, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean our states, I mean New York and California.
Speaker 2: We just like fucked up the whole majority here. And
Speaker 2: so that's just something that has been hard and we
Speaker 2: got to like move forward from that, and we will.
Speaker 2: And I think that these Republicans quote unquote moderates who
Speaker 2: don't seem very moderate anymore, they're concerned and they want
Speaker 2: to deal with Democrats. I've talked to some of them.
Speaker 2: They want to move this forward, but McCarthy's not letting
Speaker 2: it because for him, holding onto power is more important.
Speaker 1: Is there a world in which a moderate Republican comes,
Speaker 1: sweeps in and puts together a consortium.
Speaker 2: That's on the table. I think that there is a
Speaker 2: world that could happen. I think there's a group of
Speaker 2: Republicans that are talking to Democrats about, you know, some
Speaker 2: sort of bipartisan deal or we just don't know what
Speaker 2: that would look like yet. Now I'll tell you from
Speaker 2: the progressive perspective, I think the Progressive Caucus is pretty
Speaker 2: united right now. We're supporting the President, and the President
Speaker 2: has been very clear that we had a deal struck
Speaker 2: and we're sticking to what we had truck and to
Speaker 2: what he agreed to with McCarthy, and we're back in
Speaker 2: the president right now. The deal is that they need
Speaker 2: to fund the government and this shutdown is going to
Speaker 2: be on mem and it's going to hurt a lot
Speaker 2: of people. So they got to get their act together
Speaker 2: and do it quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just give us like the top line
Speaker 1: on the shutdown what it will mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what you see is like every day
Speaker 2: that the shutdown goes on, things will actually get worse
Speaker 2: for folks. And so they may not see an impact
Speaker 2: on day one, but they certainly will begin to feel
Speaker 2: it on day three and four. And that's because federal
Speaker 2: workers essentially stop getting paid. And so when you think
Speaker 2: about even folks that are working in our government offices,
Speaker 2: federal firefighters, people that are receiving food assistance through federal programs,
Speaker 2: that money just stops flowing and people essentially stop getting paychecks.
Speaker 2: And so you can imagine the burden on folks that
Speaker 2: this has. And not everyone, by the way, you know,
Speaker 2: will get or have the luxury of getting retroactive pay.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are some folks that will essentially are
Speaker 2: losing what they need to survive every single day. You're
Speaker 2: talking about what two point three two points four million
Speaker 2: jobs across the country. You're talking about a workforce that
Speaker 2: is eighty percent outside of Washington, d C. These are
Speaker 2: folks that the single largest impact, by the way, is
Speaker 2: to my home state of California. Of any state outside
Speaker 2: of DC, we're going to have hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Speaker 2: It'll be immediately impacted. So this is really serious for
Speaker 2: people's lives. And most of the Republicans that are here,
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't care or come from working class backgrounds,
Speaker 2: and they're not going to feel the impact like many
Speaker 2: of us across the country are going to and are
Speaker 2: not going to be hearing from our constituents. So it's
Speaker 2: really sad to see. And Kevin McCarthy, quite frankly, should
Speaker 2: be ashamed, being as a Californian himself, the fact that
Speaker 2: his state is going to be impacted as much as
Speaker 2: it is, and his home city of Bakersfield, California will
Speaker 2: be as well. He literally turned his back on the state.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Congressman Garcia.
Speaker 2: Anytime, Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: In all moment ofe Jesse Cannon.
Speaker 7: Molly jung Fast, let me tell you we thought the
Speaker 7: republic it's a word disarray about this shutdown, but this
Speaker 7: impeachment inquiry, this is like, have you ever seen our
Speaker 7: Congress look this off the rails.
Speaker 1: They're not covering themselves with gory. They are not. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I love about this Republican Caucus,
Speaker 1: Republican MAGA Caucus, is that they are extremely bad at this.
Speaker 1: And so well Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boubert are
Speaker 1: driving the train here. We're seeing a lot of just
Speaker 1: unbelievable stupidity from Republicans. And you know, honestly, I'm not
Speaker 1: very surprised. I am very impressed by how stupid they
Speaker 1: are and how silly this whole impeachment is. I just
Speaker 1: think that Democrats really dog walked Republicans today. And to
Speaker 1: prove this point, we're going to cut to the videotape,
Speaker 1: which in this case is audiotape, and we are going
Speaker 1: to hear a little bit from Representative Connolly.
Speaker 6: Hold on to those two words distracted and deflect, because
Speaker 6: I think this hearing is all about look over here,
Speaker 6: not over there. So Professor Gerhart, when I've heard concerned
Speaker 6: about branding, so shouldn't we be concerned about all those
Speaker 6: Biden towers all over the world where foreign partnerships were
Speaker 6: formed and influence was used here in the United States.
Speaker 6: I've seen these towers in Indonesia, in the Philippines, in Turkey.
Speaker 6: I even so one in Chicago. Shouldn't that be a
Speaker 6: source of concern of this committee in terms of influence,
Speaker 6: but foreign and domestic? When you know President Biden became.
Speaker 8: President, if there were such things as Biden buildings, what
Speaker 8: was there anyone who did have them? I think we
Speaker 8: all know who could just tell us, because you're well
Speaker 8: giving me the name talking about mister trauma.
Speaker 1: Thank you so good, and that impeachment silliness is our
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