1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Mollie John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discuss the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Governor Nikki Haley said she gets 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: dumber every time the vague Ramaswami speaks. She is not alone. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: We have such a great show today. Minority Whip Catherine 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Clark tells us what's going to happen if the government 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: shuts down. Then we'll talk to Congressman Robert Garcia about 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: what the Democrats are up to. But first we have 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: the host of the next level, the Bullwarks, Tim Miller. 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fast Politics, one of my favorite brilliant 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: conservative minds. Though you're kind of a liberal now sorry. 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm a classically liberal. 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm classically liberal that used to be conservatives, Okay, not anymore. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: I guess you guys can have progressive. I'm taking liberal. 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: The magas can have conservative. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: How's that okay? 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: My friend and yours, Tim, Thank you Tim for joining us. 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm a fan and a frequent flyer in the Tamiller world. 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: You watched that debate last night. I only made it 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: an hour. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Well, I said it was all this morning, I'm hungover. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: I went to see Beyonce last night, and this was true. 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: You know, this was tough for me because you know, 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: I have a job. People want to hear when I 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: think about things, even really stupid things like this is 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: the second primary debate, and so I felt this guilt, 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: you know. 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: I was like I should be watching this. 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, Beyonce only comes to 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: town once and it'll be there on TVR. And boy 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: did I make the right decision because she was amazing 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: and that debate was pointless, totally pointless. You didn't you 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: left after an hour, so you didn't hear any body 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: even criticize the person winning by forty points, except for 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: Chris Christy, who offered the single cringiest attack line in 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: debate history. 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: With Donald Duck. 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was horrible. 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: It was like he'd practiced it in a mirror and 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: he was so proud of himself and he was like, 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: there's this big build up to it, and I was like, oh, boy, 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: he's really going to give him one now, and then 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: it was Donald Duck. I was like a whole body cringe. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm continually underwhelmed by Chris Christy as a spoiler, Like 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I just think he is a person who is desperate 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: for attention. I don't really believe that he has some 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of quinsotic quest to bring down Trump. 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been with you on this one, and I've 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: been kind of an outlier never Trump world while not 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: worrieding worcause it seems like Donald Trump's going to win 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: and kind of all this is and not win the 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: primary and all of this strategorizing is kind of unnecessary 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: as doesn't really matter. But still, in the event that 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: there was an actual candidate that rose to which where 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: they had a chance to beat Trump, that's not getting 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: Chris Christy. 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: Republican voters hate him. 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: And so in that event, having Chris Christy in this 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: race in New Hampshire is a huge help to Trump, right, 61 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: because Chris Christy is going to get you know, whatever 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: fifteen ten percent newsree whatever ends up getting, and then 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: vote would have gone to you know, Nicky Haley or 64 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 3: whoever else, right, And so he's taking voters away from 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: people that could you know, that at least have a 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: better change than he does. And so like this whole 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: thing is just egomaniacal and I don't think that he's 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: done anything really to advance the Well, the only thing 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: that he's done they'll give him credit for is he 70 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: does go on Fox and occasionally break their bubble of disreality. 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: And I do appreciate that. But I think that he 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: could do that without being a candidate for presidents, you know, 73 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Gavin Newson is doing that, right. 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I was just about to say Gavin Newsom mayor pete. 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: But I do want to get into this idea because 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I am not a Republican, nor am I even really 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Republican adjacent though I do adore you guys at the bullwork, 78 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: but I in my heart and I would never vote 79 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: for her, and I don't believe for anything she stands for. 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: But on Earth too, there is a world where Nikki 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Haley is the nominate. 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: Sure, it's a makeup of the parties are different, right, 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: and so this is the thing, and maybe it's on 84 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Earth one twelve years ago. 85 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: Right. 86 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: Here's the thing I'm people to understand about the Republican 87 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: Party is that there was always this like push and 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: pull between the tea party is types, the non college 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: more you know, culturally conservative parts of the party, and 90 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: then your kind of chamber of commerce, whatever, country club 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Republican whatever majority of you want to use right right 92 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: tax cuts. 93 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: The people who held their nose and voted. 94 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: For tax cuts exactly, the country club side of the 95 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: party was winning for a while, you know, because it 96 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: felt more electable and the party was about split in half. 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 98 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: Then Trump comes in and a huge swaff of those 99 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: people myself and the board card included less the party. 100 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: So we're not in the party anymore. And then a huge, 101 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: huge new group of people came in of people that 102 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: only liked the culture war stuff. They don't care at 103 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: all about cutting spending and you know, a strong military 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Okay, so now the party breakdown 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: is like seventy thirty or maybe seventy five twenty five 106 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: towards people that want the maga culture war stuff versus 107 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: the people that, you know whatever, are the older, more traditional, 108 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: you know, your father's Republican. So Nikki Haley, sure, if 109 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: the parties hadn't changed their voters, she could have won 110 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: a primary, but they did, right, and so now we're like, 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: you had to deal with the party that you have, 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: And like I knew she was, you know, I knew 113 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: what well I knew nikkiy Holly didn't do well. Last 114 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: night I started getting text from my democratic consultant friends 115 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: who are like, I'm really thinking Nikki's doing well, and 116 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: I was like, yep, I used to get these texts 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: about John Huntsman too. Okay, we finished in. 118 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: Last because the problem is that MAGA world so no 119 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: longer looks like normal political discourse. That in order to 120 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: succeed in that, you have to be an outlier. 121 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, an outsider for sure. Yeah, Outliernny and I just 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: signed that, But yeah, you have to be somebody that 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: is expressing a disdain for the existing political system. Because 124 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: the maguaters hate the existing politicalsm they hate the existing elites. Right, 125 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: this is why Vivic does well. He thought like he's 126 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: charming or that he has any special skill, you know, 127 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: candidate skills. He just can read the room, like that's 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: his only skill. He can read the room. 129 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: And talk really really fast. 130 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just like created this identity in twenty eighteen. 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: That was like, Okay, I guess I'll just say all 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: the stuff that the people like and like that kind 133 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: of works for him, you know exactly, even nomine but 134 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, at least he's like engaging them on things. 135 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: And they care about that is what. So if Trump 136 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: disappeared on the face of the planet god willing, you know, 137 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: these people would look for somebody else that does that, 138 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: that is an outsider, that doesn't sound like a politician, 139 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: that is willing to say crude things. It's willing to 140 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: be cruel and mean to elites and trans people and whatever. Right, 141 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: and that wants would be more isolated, Like that's what 142 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: these folks want. 143 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: Here's the thing I never understood about Trump World. I 144 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: always thought, and this is where I really messed up. 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I always thought, eventually the people will say that Trump 146 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: is a lead and that this whole thing has been 147 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: a complete lie, and they'll rebel or stay home or something. 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: But that has not quite happened. I thought that there 149 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: would be a moment of reckoning, but there has been 150 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: no moment of reckoning. Yeah. 151 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: So in twenty sixteen, right, we kind of went through this. 152 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: I went to this with you, where there's this theory 153 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: of the case. I think it was defensible. At the time. 154 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: It was like, let's avoid him, right, you don't want 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: to get in the mud with him, and eventually people 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: get serious. Right, I think it was a defensible theory 157 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: at the time. It turned out to be totally wrong. 158 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: People were not going to get serious. They liked him actually, 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: and the better approach would have been the opposite, to 160 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: try to kill him in the crib and to go 161 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: at him early. We messed up. I don't know that 162 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: if killing the crib strategy would have worked or not. 163 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: We don't know. But we know that the avoid him 164 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: and try to delay the reckoning as long as possible 165 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: strategy doesn't work because everybody tried it last time, literally 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: every candidate. We're now eight years later and these guys 167 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: are all doing the same thing. They haven't learned anything, 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know. There was a theory for a 169 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: little while some of them were going to be VP, 170 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: but Trump says, you, like, I'm not going to beg 171 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: any of them for V paid, So like, what are. 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: They all doing, hud secretary. 173 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this JVL line and the triad job the last 174 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: and the blog and the triad. He wrote this. 175 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: There was no Republican presidential debate last night. 176 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: There was only a collection of people playing make the 177 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: lead and apply it media enabling them like that's just it, right, 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: Like they did not they are not trying to compete 179 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: against him, and I think that these people are so 180 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: dumb that they really genuinely think that this failed Ted 181 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: Cruz Marco Rubio strategy of last time, it's still their 182 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: best bet and otherwise I have no idea what they're doing. 183 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems very bizarre. I also think like one 184 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: of the signs that your debate is really the undercard 185 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: debate is that it's on Fox Business. Like the Fox 186 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Business people like this sort of dismay that Larry Kudlow faced, 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, doing this, like there was a sense in 188 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: which this was really they had really relegated this to 189 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: the B B B team. 190 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean so the Steward Varney and the 191 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: best part of their bait was the intro when Barney 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: couldn't pronounce the name of its co moderator from Univision. 193 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: I feel like you should practice that. 194 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was like he's sputtered. I thought 195 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: my WiFi went out or something, spluttering trying to mention 196 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: her name. I mean, I get literally, you know, it'd 197 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: be a perfect spoof for a Saturday in their lives bid. 198 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: But the other only other good thing, I guess, Dana Prino. 199 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: Everyone else is criticizing her to the survivor question at 200 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: the end of Taiku, would you vote off the island? 201 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: But I thought that was the most relevant question of 202 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: the debate. Actually, her point was right that having seven 203 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: people on the Ian's trump when he has fifty percent 204 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: of the vote is insanity, and so she was just 205 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: trying to nudge them. And you know, here we are today. 206 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: The opposite is have Janet have you seen this? Just 207 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: it just popped on Drudge Thursday morning. You know, Youngkin, 208 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: the Youngkin buzz is back. There's now a big summit 209 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: next month about getting then Youngkin in racing. It's just 210 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: it's like, what another milk toast, because that'll do Yeah, 211 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: another milk toast? Business Republican in a feeze list, Like, 212 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: how is he gonna do any better than the people 213 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: that are already in the race. The whole thing is 214 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: just lunacy. 215 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and really, what they need, if they were 216 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: to take control of this sinking ship is for everyone 217 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: to get by one candidate. The moderators clearly were very 218 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: out of control, right, They couldn't control the crowd. They're 219 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: screaming at each other. We got Doug Bergham complaining, and 220 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean there were just so many really unlikable people 221 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: doing unlikable things last night. But the questions were oddly 222 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: like childcare, this is not republic the Republican Party's wheelhouse. 223 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, was Dana Perino trying to pull a fast one? 224 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about that? 225 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of being stealing, bad for Jesse, yet I 226 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: had to feel bad for him being a professional having 227 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: to listen to it. The sound was so horrible in there. 228 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: They couldn't figure out how to work the mic. It 229 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: really was waiting for a leve hole like production bodies 230 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: and then the substance. You got to try sometimes to 231 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: ask them substantive issues, even though most of them don't 232 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: want to talk about anything substance of, except like, you know, 233 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: the two things that you know, wokeness in. 234 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: The border or whatever, and Nikki Haley's curtains. 235 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did think the funniest subjective question was 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: when Dana Brino asked Mike Pence about Obamacare, and so 237 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: you got to repeal Obamacare I don't like And Mike 238 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: Fence then goes on a two minute answer about how 239 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: he wants to speed up the death penalty process. 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Yes, speed up the death penalty and then faith based 241 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: mental health. 242 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he thought this was gonna be a big 243 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: applause line. You know, He's just like, we're going to acceit, 244 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: you them, and then the crowd is like, what are 245 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: you talking? Like the dead silence of the crowd to 246 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: his attempted applause line, and then Dana is like, so, 247 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: I guess we're stuck with Obamacare. Then you know, I 248 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: got he said, you didn't answer, and then he still 249 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: has no answer. 250 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: I get. 251 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: They haven't been even attempted. Say what you want about 252 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: ship Jem's policies. Maybe not your listeners didn't like all 253 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: of them, but he. 254 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: At least was serious. 255 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: You know, if he was good taking on Trump, he 256 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: was at least serious about his policy proposal. You ask 257 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: him about healthcare, he would give you a boring eight 258 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: point answer. So at least he is serious about the process. 259 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: And these guys don't even have that. It's like, if 260 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: you're not going to challenge Trump, if you're not going 261 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: to really compete, then at least have something to offer, 262 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: something of substance. It's just it's nothing. They had nothing. 263 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean just incredible, incredible stuff. And I 264 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: mean Mike Pence was vice president, and he could not 265 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: get out a coherent answer, and the idea that you're 266 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: going to do the death penalty for people who are 267 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: mass shooters, for who many of whom actually kill themselves 268 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: right right, who are quite interested in death? 269 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: Like, I think that actually sweetens the pomps. 270 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I know, it's like the least important candidate and 271 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: the least important question, but I just couldn't. I couldn't 272 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: help myself, but like rewind it and re listened to 273 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: it because it was just so bizarre. Who Rick Thence begins. 274 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: It was kind of this heartfelt, earnest thing. He's like, 275 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: I have grand children and we need to stop these 276 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: mass shootings and we need to be serious about it. 277 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: And that was kind of like, you know, I sort 278 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: of sat up in my chair and I was like, oh, 279 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: is Mike Pence can't offer maybe a different view on 280 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: gun control or something. And then he's like, no, we're 281 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: gonna speed up the death penalty for mass shooters. So 282 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: I was like, what most of these guys killed themselves. 283 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: What are you talking about it? What are you talking about? 284 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was not as baffling as faith 285 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: based mental health you pray away the depressed. 286 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: Hey, people need what is it called the third space? 287 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: People like there are men in this country that needs 288 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: they want to get it from church groups. That's great, okay, 289 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: but yeah, that's not solving the problem here. 290 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible the hoops that these people will 291 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: jump through to not have anything to do with any 292 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of gum control. I'm curious to know. Now. Last 293 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: night Donald Trump spoke about the about unions, but not 294 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: two unions. The thing that I'm always struck by is 295 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: like he just lies all the time. And like you said, 296 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you know it won't matter. In two years, there will 297 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: be no more jobs because of electric vehicles. 298 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, speaking about lies. One of the reason why 299 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: he keeps lying is because it works. You know, Republicans 300 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: haven't learned it. I think we're twenty sixteen and the 301 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: media has. It doesn't seem like they have. Either everybody 302 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: like mainstream outlets, Gnzert else or like repeating his lie 303 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 3: that he was going to speak to the union group, 304 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: he was speaking at a non union shop and it 305 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: was like the boss that invited it, and you know 306 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: the people there, like one of the interviewers there. There 307 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: was at least one local news reporter doing his job 308 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: like went up to people with like UAW for Trump 309 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: signs and shirts and was like, are you a member 310 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: of the UAW And they're. 311 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: Like no, no. 312 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: But that's why he lies, you know, partially because you 313 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: can keep getting away with that. Obviously, the substance was 314 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: also cannot hyperbolic nonsense to me. It's more just like 315 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: he got credit for pretending to do the thing that 316 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Joe Biden did. 317 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: You know. 318 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: That's frustrating and it is worth wondering why the mainstream media. 319 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, I feel guilty talking about this because I 320 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: feel like people are mad at me for going on 321 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: television and saying this. But I don't care, especially straight reporters. 322 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I understand that it's hard and you don't lines cave reporters, 323 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. News reporters I suppose to 324 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: on the opinion side, but I know that they don't 325 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: necessarily write their own headlines. But really, most people, eighty 326 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: percent of the people only read your headlines. So if 327 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: you have a headline that says Joe Biden too old 328 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: and Trump has some other problems, that's it. That's your piece. 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: It's a terrible reality but it's true. 330 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm not one of these guys. It's 331 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: always just like the media is terrible. Media is terrible 332 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: to me. There's certain things in media does well, and 333 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: that they're humans everybody's you know, I hate the contrarianism, 334 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, knee jerk criticisms, but I got the substance 335 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: of this in this instance. 336 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 337 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: And it's one of the check on the subs of 338 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: the Sistance. If you're like, if your short salary or 339 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: the twheet is Donald Trump's going to speak to auto workers, 340 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: and it's like people need to click on the article 341 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: and then they look at it and say, well, not no, 342 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: not really actually, Like then you know you're helping advance 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: his misinformation. 344 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I am totally just sort of blown 345 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: away by the level in which Republicans. I mean, even 346 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: in my own life. Somebody just told me that they've 347 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: changed their mind on the COVID vaccine because it was 348 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: only tested on ten mice, and I was like, no, honey, 349 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: there's such an information gap. I mean, this is not 350 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: South Dakota. This is New York City. 351 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: Even in South Dakota they have internet there, you know. 352 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: Joe Biden passed broad dams. It is one of the 353 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: things that assigned a bipartisan you know, people should be 354 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: able to get the facts these days. 355 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I did really like, you know, I'm like a little 356 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: bit of a sucker. And the only thing I liked 357 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: in that debate was the Christy Nome advertisement. 358 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: This I must have missed. I was fast forwarding on 359 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: the replay. 360 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: South Dakota, as many popular states do, has ads to 361 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: beg people to move there. 362 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure, and. 363 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: This ad has her smiling and doing weird jobs that 364 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you could get if you lived in South Dakota. 365 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: Right, I mean a little bit. 366 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: I was like it was pretty stupid, but I sort. 367 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: Of like it. 368 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we do have like the lowest 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: unemployment rate in history right now. So yeah, I don't 370 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are like desperately saying, I 371 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: just I just need to get to South you know, 372 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: the bad Lands, teach there. 373 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: But what's sort of on your radar right now? 374 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: Well, I'm panicking, Molly, I'm panicking. That's what's on my radar. 375 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: I'm carrying a paperbag around constantly, and I'm just going 376 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: to be blowing into it for the next thirteen months. 377 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: I think because the Republican resistance to Trump is nonexistent, 378 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: and so you know, we're staring down the barrel of 379 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: this guy in general election, and it's going to be 380 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to be able to sleep. 381 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: I think that there should be more bad wedding. And 382 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: that's where I'm at. That's what that's what, that's what 383 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm keeping my eye on. People are worried about bad wedding, 384 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: not me. I want I want people to be bed 385 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: wedding more. I'd like to see some damn sheets. 386 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: The disturbing image. 387 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim Miller, Thank you. Molly Catherine Clark is 388 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: the Minority Whip and represents Massachusetts Fitts Congressional District. 389 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fast Politics. 390 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: Do we call you Whip Clark or or do we 391 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: call you Representative Clark? 392 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: Either one works agaid. 393 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 394 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: So we are in this incredibly strange moment and congressional life. 395 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Can you talk us through where you guys are right 396 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: now and what's happening. 397 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is an incredibly strange time and a time 398 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: of great danger for the American people. And what we're 399 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: seeing is an extension of what we've seen since January 400 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: when Speaker McCarthy went fifteen rounds and to achieve his 401 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: title a speaker, he gave the gabble to Marjorie Taylor 402 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: Green and the most extreme MAGA Republicans. So now we 403 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: are on the verge of a shutdown because they are 404 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: promoting an agenda that completely leaves out what the American 405 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 4: people need to succeed. They're cutting social socquity, slashing public 406 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 4: school funding, criminalizing abortion care in their march towards a 407 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: national abortion band. So here we are days away from 408 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: a shutdown. And what is the only way I can 409 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 4: describe this is it is chaos here in the Republican GOP. 410 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: In the House. 411 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday Marjorie Taylor Green, who is known for spreading anti 412 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Smitic conspiracy theories that cues control space lasers that caused 413 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: forest fires, she did something really bizarre and extraordinary. 414 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Can you talk about that? 415 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: You know every day it is bizarre extraordinary with Marjorie 416 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: Taylor Green. 417 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: She had an emotion to cut LAWD. Austin's salary down 418 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: to a dollar. 419 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 420 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: And Marjorie is good at saying all the quiet parts 421 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: out loud, and her extremism continues on and here's what 422 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: we're seeing is that was one example. Another example was 423 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: an amendment of Lauren Bobert that cut all mentioned from 424 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: the USDA of LGBTQ people that all but one Republican 425 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: voted for. I think it is hard to take in 426 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: the level extremism, a bigotry of racism that we are 427 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 4: seeing reflected in these appropriation bills, and what we are 428 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: headed for a shutdown for is promotion of this agenda. 429 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 4: And it's important to note that here in Washington, it 430 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: is the House GOP that is becoming this island of 431 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: hatred and extremism, where we see the White House, House Dems, 432 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: House Senate Dems, and Senate Republican saying, let's not do this. 433 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: We have an agreement from back in June with the 434 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: manufactured default crisis. Let's proceed with that. You know, it 435 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: is always sort of an out of body experience when 436 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: I find myself nodding an agreement with the tweets coming 437 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 4: from Mitch McConnell. But Mitch McConnell is speaking rationally on this, 438 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: and we have just the House geopine that is distinguishing 439 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: themselves in all the wrong ways. And who is left 440 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 4: out of this. It's the American people and this drum 441 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 4: beat that they have had over months that shutdowns are 442 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: good for people, it is all extension of as Kevin 443 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: McCarthy himself said his conference, wanting to burn it all down. 444 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: And this is going to have real and dramatic effects 445 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 4: whether they shut down the government or whether they move 446 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: forward on their extreme agenda. Either way, people at home 447 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: who are trying to manage high costs of living with housing, 448 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: with groceries, worried about their kids in school and thriving 449 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: post pandemic. Everything they are going for is going to 450 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: move us in the wrong direction. And so we have 451 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: to take the fact that this is no longer some 452 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: partisan bickering in Congress. This is about everyone else but 453 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: the House GOP trying to move forward for the American 454 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: people this point post pandemic, where economy is showing great 455 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: signs of recovery, but we need to do more to 456 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: cut costs for people, to get them into work, to 457 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: make the investments that Democrats passed in the last Congress 458 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: come to life for people. You know, it is just 459 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: an incredible moment to watch Kevin McCarthy's failure to lead 460 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: his conference past this extremism. 461 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: It is incredible to see Mitch McConnell saying that he 462 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: increas with Schumor and Congressional Democrats and not. 463 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: These House Republicans. 464 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: So one of the things that Nancy Pelosi was really 465 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: careful about when she was the Speaker of the House 466 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: was a lot of these people have been elected from 467 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: very swingy districts or districts that are very evenly divided, 468 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: and so to not make people in these very vulnerable 469 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: districts have to vote on things that would alienate voters. 470 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: You know, when you see motions brought by Marjorie Taylor 471 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Green and Lauren Babert, can you imagine Nancy Pelosi ever 472 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: letting this kind of thing happen in her caucus. I 473 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: mean not that you'd ever have people like Marjorie Taylor 474 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: Green or Lauren Bobert in the Democratic caucuss, but can 475 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: you imagine letting the sort of very controversial members take 476 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: over the party like that? 477 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. First of all, we don't have these extreme members, 478 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: so let's start there. But you know, this is so 479 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: about a march towards an abortion band across this country. 480 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: They truly that is one of their top priorities, and 481 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: what we are seeing are just, you know, amendments that 482 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: should make our jaws drop, except that we see it 483 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: every single day from them. But your point brings up 484 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: a good one, because you know, it's sort of like, well, 485 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 4: aren't there moderate Republicans across the aisle that you can 486 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: work with? And what Kevin McCarthy's voting moving towards this 487 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 4: extreme bringing these measures that whether it's slashing General Austin's 488 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: salary to a dollar, whether it is getting rid of 489 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: every equity commission throughout government, whether it is a tax 490 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 4: on the LGBTQ Committee, these so called moderates vote for 491 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: these amendments. They vote for this extreme agenda over and 492 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 4: over again. And this really isn't just about your typical 493 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: partisan fight. This is about how do we move forward 494 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 4: as a country and a democracy, create an economy that 495 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: works for everyone, but also make that march towards equality 496 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: and justice. And you saw Tommy Tuberbill say it again, 497 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: saying this quiet part out loud when he was talking 498 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: about not voting for the Joint Chief of Staff Brown 499 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: and saying, we think that our armed forces are not 500 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: served well by diversity, and we want it to be 501 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: a merit based military. 502 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: I mean, wow right, I mean the whole idea is 503 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: it's the mayor based military, and the military has spent 504 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 5: many years sort of creating a military that reflects. 505 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: Its people exactly. We cannot let these moments where we 506 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: have the former president calling for the execution of General 507 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: Millie for his idea of treason and that just becomes 508 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: part of our normal daily expectations from this GOP. This 509 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: is extremism. It is dangerous. It erodes democracy, and we 510 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 4: are seeing it play out here in the House every 511 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 4: single day, and we are not seeing those members and 512 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: they have a very small margin standing up and saying 513 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: we are going to choose the people of this country. 514 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: We are going to choose those bounding ideals of liberty 515 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: and justice and equality. Instead, they are choosing to fall 516 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: in line and rule by fear of a primary that 517 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 4: is sponsored by Donald Trump. 518 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: So McCarthy he could put together a cr or something 519 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and get Democratic votes. I mean, you could save him 520 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: if you wanted to. Of course, that would also doom him, 521 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: but that's not our problem. Do you think there's a 522 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: world in which that happened. 523 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: You know, this is the world that the answer is 524 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: right there for the taking. This is a deal that 525 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: we negotiated, that Kevin McCarthy negotiated with the President of 526 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: the United States back in May, and in early June 527 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: three hundred and fourteen members of the House of Representatives said, 528 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: we accept this deal. Was it a compromise? Were there 529 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: are things in there? 530 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: I do not like? 531 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: Absolutely, But that was the deal we came to and 532 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: we stood by it. The ink was barely dry when 533 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy once again followed the Freedom Cack, the Freedom 534 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: Denying Caucus over on an extreme agenda and completely ignored 535 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 4: what he had just signed with the President of the 536 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 4: United States as his compromise, backed up by a huge 537 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: bipartisan vote. So the answer has always been there. 538 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: But that's not. 539 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: What any of this is about. This is about Speaker McCarthy, 540 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: in his mind, doing everything he can to remain Speaker McCarthy, 541 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: and he has told the American people he doesn't care. 542 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: This is about his job, his security and their security. 543 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: What they're dealing with, the issues they talk about around 544 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: their family tables are completely not the object of what 545 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: he's trying to do. So we have been ready, We 546 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: are ready to avoid a shutdown that we know is 547 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: going to inflect incredible pain on Americans. And the answer 548 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: is right in front of us, and it is what 549 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans are seeing, and it is 550 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: what we are going to continue to push. This is 551 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: a complete, once again, mega created problem, and the answers 552 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 4: are already agreed to, have already been signed off on, 553 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: and are just waiting for Kevin McCarthy to say yes to. 554 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that Menandez should resign? 555 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: I think that that indictment is an extremely troubling document, 556 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 4: and of course, as a member of Congress, as an attorney, 557 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't think that resigning is an admission of guilt. 558 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 4: He has that presumption of innocence and I take that 559 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: very seriously. But what I've watched is, you know, the 560 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: people of New Jersey say to him that they think 561 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 4: it's time for him to resign, and I think he 562 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: has to listen to that. 563 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: One of the things that Representative Summerlee, who was just 564 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: on this podcast set, which I thought was really important point, 565 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: was that Democrats have to be the party of anti corruption, 566 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: and if they're going to go after people like Clarence 567 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Thomas for his incredible flouting of ethics laws, then they 568 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: have to really, you know, just be incredibly clear about 569 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: such things. 570 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right. And we have shown over 571 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: and over again that we stand for what is right 572 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 4: and we want to stand to make sure that those 573 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: voices of people that don't get a lot of power 574 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: in the halls of Congress are heard. And what we 575 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: have to do in moments like this is think about 576 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: those people who are busy with their own jobs making 577 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: ends meet, busy trying to find childcare they need, and 578 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: worried about will they be able to pay their bills 579 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: and get ahead, that they view this all as increase 580 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: cynicism towards government, when we very much need Americans to 581 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: understand that that is not the whole picture here. That 582 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: House Democrats are united and have remain united because we 583 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: have them in mind, and we showed that when we 584 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: had the majority, we were able to move these huge 585 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: investments in them, and we are willing to fight to 586 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 4: protect social Security, something they want to take away and 587 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: keep coming back to. And we know how critically important 588 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: that is to people at home. And we know that 589 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: people understand that criminalizing abortion care a national abortion ban, 590 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: is really a strike at their fundamental freedom, their freedom 591 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: to make choices about their own lives without any member 592 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: of Congress coming between them and their doctor and their 593 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: faith and their family circumstances. And the American people understand this, 594 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: and we have to continue to hold people accountable and 595 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: to call this out. And at this moment, with this 596 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: level of extremism, these maga Republicans that have taken over 597 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: the GOP and the House, our message to the American 598 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 4: people is we see you, We're fighting for you, and 599 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: we're going to continue to do that work because it 600 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: really is about the elections make a huge difference in 601 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: our democracy, but it's also these daily votes and every 602 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: single day House Republicans are choosing to side with Marjorie 603 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: Taylor agree and not with the people who were sent 604 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: here to serve. 605 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Is this shut down a fit a company or is 606 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: there still a chance. 607 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: Okay, we are going to continue to fight, but I 608 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: think I think that the House GOP is going to 609 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: find itself continue to be isolated, and I hope they 610 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: will take notice of that. But if we look over 611 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: their leadership and their tenure since January, I really don't 612 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: see how they avoid a shutdown. They have been out 613 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: there saying this is part of their agenda, that this 614 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: is a way to get to extremism, that this is 615 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: about how they continue on all these extreme issues that 616 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: they want. But we're expecting the Senate to move ahead 617 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: with the bipartisan cr and we hope that Kevin McCarthy 618 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: and the leadership team will follow suit and do the 619 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: right thing for the American people. It's in their hands. 620 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: But Trump is the one who has set this shutdown emotion. 621 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: Matt Gates is tweeting hold the line right, and that 622 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: is Ultimately Trump is behind this. 623 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Trump is behind all of this. That is who 624 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 4: they answer to. That is who they set an agenda with. 625 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: And you know, Trump has been very clear and is 626 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 4: underscoring the point every day. This is an extreme, mega shutdown. 627 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 4: It's what he wants, and they are trying to deliver 628 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 4: it for him and the American people and what they 629 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 4: need to impact. This will have on hungry moms and babies, 630 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 4: on the beneficiaries of SNAP, on social security beneficiaries, the 631 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 4: fact that they will be asking our military active duty 632 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 4: troops to go to work without pay. I mean, all 633 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 4: of this is something that Trump has told them is 634 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: what he wants for this country. This is his bishop, 635 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: and the House Goop seems to be here with the 636 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 4: sole reason of enacting that vision into law. 637 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 638 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: Representative Clark, all right, thank you, Mollie. 639 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: Representative Robert Garcia represents California's forty second congressional district. Welcome 640 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: back to Fast Politics, Congressman. 641 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: Garcia, happy to be back. 642 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, very thrilled to have you. 643 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: Yesterday. 644 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: President Biden, first president ever walk with to walk with strikers. 645 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Got some people from Obama world pretty mad. This guy's 646 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: really doing the progressive stuff. 647 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh man. I mean, look, I think there's no question 648 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: that President Biden is the most progressive president of the 649 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: modern era. He has time and time again shown that 650 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: if he believes that government has a role to help people, 651 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: and whether it's been the historic legislation, run infrastructure, or safety, 652 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: and obviously recently with all the investments in client, he 653 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: is really I think doubling down on kind of being 654 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: that legacy from FDR and all the big programs that 655 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: we had that really improved this country. And so I'm 656 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: really proud of him. I think, you know, as a 657 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: member of the Progressive Caucuss, we talk all the time. 658 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: We are always just continue to be impressed by the 659 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: actions he takes, and clearly I think the picket a 660 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: visit was just one of those moments. So it's a 661 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: really special moment. 662 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the first time ever in history, 663 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: Like that's a big deal. And then Trump is of 664 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: course saying he's coming, but actually he's coming to a 665 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: non union shop that is a sponsor. I mean, should 666 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: we be surprised. 667 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: No, I mean Donald Trump is, as we just know, 668 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: just an unmitigated disaster. He is running away with this nomination, 669 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: which is totally insane and crazy, sane, insane to me 670 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: that there is anyone in this country that wants to 671 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: nominate this criminal, the biggest grifter khn criminal to ever 672 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: be in office, and that actually think that he actually 673 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: has a vision for this country, which is anti worker, 674 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: anti women, anti LGBTQ plus people, anti anything. It's really 675 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: sad to see every time these polls come out, and 676 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 2: polls are going to go up and down, but the 677 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: fact that anyone is supporting this person is just is 678 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: just linacy. 679 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: It really is. I'm so struck by how insane this is. 680 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: And Republicans are behaving like it's business as usual. Going 681 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: back to progressive Biden News already endorsed by AOC and 682 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. 683 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly right. I mean the party is united 684 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: behind president, and that includes the progressive wing. I think 685 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: look at what just happened around the Climate Corps. I mean, 686 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: Sunrise is really leaning in on that. 687 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that. 688 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 2: So exciting. He's actually taking on issues that young people 689 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: care about, that the next generation cares about. I have 690 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: to laugh at some of the media's obsession with his 691 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 2: experience and his age, and it's like he's delivering results. 692 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: And that is partly because he is so experienced and 693 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: has been Vice president, has been in the Senate for 694 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: so long, and has you know, done local government. So hello, folks, 695 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: we have actually the one person here that's beat Donald 696 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: Trump once before. You know, we have not always been 697 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: successful in that effort. He knows how to get it done. 698 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: So let's go get you know, whatever concerns you have, like, 699 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: shake those off, because we're going to get behind them. 700 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: We've got to beat Donald Trump. We have a get 701 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 2: democracy to save here exactly. 702 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: And speaking of saving democracy, no, I'm just kidding. The 703 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Republican House continues its decline and decline and decline. There 704 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: is now going to be an impeachment hearing. Kevin McCarthy 705 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: wants to impeach Joe Biden for basically Matt Gates being 706 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: mad at him discuss. 707 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean, look, this is now the 708 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green Matt Gates Caucus. I mean, they completely 709 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: control the Republican House. That's what they do. That's what 710 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: it's very clear to Kevin McCarthy has essentially just handed 711 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 2: them the keys to his speakership. The fact that we're 712 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 2: now in this impeachment inquiry where there is zero evidence 713 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: that links the president to any sort of business dealings 714 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: that Hunter may have had, is insane and totally crazy. 715 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: We all agree as Democrats, by the way, that Hunters 716 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: should be held accountable. So whatever it is that he did, and. 717 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: He's already been charged with the federal gun crime, which 718 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: is a very unusual charge. 719 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and so the judicial process, right, he's been 720 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: moving forward, and so we support that. But the President 721 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: has done nothing wrong here except for try to be 722 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 2: a supportive father, you know, to some of the obviously 723 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: has had some real challenges in their lives, and so 724 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: this idea that they want to go after the president. 725 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: They refuse to even look at the griff for example, 726 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 2: of the Kushners who are profiting, you know, to two 727 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: billion dollars from the Saudis in their investment firm two 728 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: months after leaving the White House, or the twenty five 729 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: million they're getting a month in fees, or all the 730 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: grift that Iona made during from all the patents. I mean, 731 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: there's actual corruption there likely, and so this idea that 732 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: they don't want to even look at that but want 733 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: to attack the president for something a son did it 734 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: was a private citizen, is crazy. But we know these 735 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: people are insane. They're literally nuts. 736 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So let's talk about what this impeachment hearing 737 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: is going to look like. You are on the committee, 738 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: what committee is doing? This explained to us, give us 739 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of the stuff. 740 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: The impeachment inquiry process is in the House Oversight Committee, 741 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: of which I sit on, and then of course, at 742 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: some point, depending if this thing gets tractioned with the 743 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: crazy Republicans, the Judiciary Committee will get involved. And that's 744 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 2: that's the natural process. What we know today is that 745 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: James Comer, who is leading the inquiry for the Republicans 746 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: is basically just a liar. I mean, he just makes 747 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: up conspiracy theories and then tweets him out or talks 748 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 2: about him on Fox News, of which they just get 749 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 2: debunked all the time. Remember this is the same person 750 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: who for weeks and weeks was hyping up essentially a 751 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: spy that Rudy Giuliani cooked up. And so it's the 752 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani conspiracy show at the Oversight Committee. It's James 753 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: Comer's witnesses that get debunked week after week, and they 754 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: can't find anything on President Biden, who just happens to 755 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: be a good guy. He's just a good man who 756 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: is trying to do a job here. And so but 757 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: we're going to push back. I'm honored to be on 758 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: this committee with folks like AOC and Katie Porter. I mean, 759 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: when you can learn from women like them and see 760 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: them in action, they're really leading an effort. And our leader, 761 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: Jamie Raskin is just I mean brilliant. So we're taking 762 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 2: them on every step of the way. 763 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: But wasn't there supposed to be whistleblowers. Weren't I promised whistleblowers. 764 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: You were promised whistle blowers and all sorts of conspiracy theories, 765 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: and you've got nothing. They can't find these people because 766 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 2: they don't exist. And in fact, let's to get what 767 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: step further, even in when they've deposed folks, right, when 768 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: they've deposed folks and we've had folks in the room, 769 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: the folks that they have brought in to find this connection, 770 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: they've actually said the opposite. I mean they've literally said 771 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: on the record, actually, I've never heard there be a linker. 772 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: I've never heard President Biden actually involved in any of 773 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: Hunter's business dealings. And so even when they bring witnesses, 774 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 2: they basically flip on them because there's nothing there. It's 775 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: just lie after lie. And let's let's be very clear, 776 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: this is about re electing Donald Trump. This is about 777 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: re electing their authoritarian dictator, want to be loser who 778 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: is trying to get reelected to be president, and they'll 779 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: do whatever it takes to damage the president and reelect 780 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He is directing this puppet show. 781 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: This is one of these things that we know from 782 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon that he's trying to flood the zone right 783 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: to be able to say, well, Trump got impeached and 784 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Biden got impeached, right to create a false equivalent, say. 785 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. I mean they want their own, 786 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, impeachment of Biden for the election, and they've 787 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: they've said as much. So I mean, look think about this. 788 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: I mean, here we are on the eve of real, damaging, 789 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: horrific possible government shutdown that could last and hurt a 790 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 2: lot of folks, and they're focused on impeaching President Biden. 791 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy with no evidence. So it's the 792 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump Show every day for Republicans here, it's their leader, 793 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: their fearless leader who they just love so much. And 794 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: we're just gonna we're gonna just we're not going to 795 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: take it though, We're going to push back whenever we can. 796 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's really important because remember so 797 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: much of this is being done for Fox News sound bites. 798 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's all Fox News and now they're in 799 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: they're crazy conspiracy theories. Just so like the fact that 800 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: they're talking about QAnon conspiracy theories now in Fox News 801 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: and that they're parenting all of these lies, is this 802 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: is a part of it's going to completely off the 803 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: deep band, completely off the deep end, and so, I 804 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: mean it's sad to see. I look, I'm a freshman 805 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: member of Congress. I've only been here for eight months, 806 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: and I'm already like, what is wrong with these people? 807 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: And the fact that people elect these people? That Congress 808 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 2: is pretty crazy. 809 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: Can you explain to our listeners what's happening right now 810 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: with mighty Matt Gates and his relationship with Kevin McCarthy. 811 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean, wow, obviously we know that they hate each other. 812 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's obviously clear. Matt Gates, we also know 813 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: happens to be a lunatic caddles a lot of crazy folks. 814 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: He is basically every day is essentially threatening to call 815 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: up a vote for a speaker election. And we know 816 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 2: that he was problematic for a McCarthy after the initial 817 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen plus votes we had to take the 818 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: first time. But he keeps threatening it, and I think 819 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why, you know, McCarthy holding 820 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: onto power is the most important thing, and so he 821 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: caves into folks like Matt Gates and his demands, Like 822 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: what's happening right now where we're completely essentially going off 823 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: of fiscal cliff and hurting workers because they don't care 824 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: actually about the American people. And Matt Gates is one 825 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: of the most extreme voices in the country. And Kevin McCarthy, 826 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: as much as he dislikes him, listens to him and 827 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: allows Matt Gates and the Margine Taylor Greens to run 828 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: to run his caucus. And I think that's really said. 829 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: Matt Gates has a lot of influence within that Republican caucus, 830 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: and Kevin McCarthy knows it. But they also also happen 831 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: to do not like each other very much, and so 832 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: you know, that's on them. Democrats are honestly pretty united, 833 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 2: and I think that's the key difference between what's happening 834 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: right now. If you look at our side and we've 835 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 2: got progressives and you know, folks that may be more moderate, 836 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 2: we're on the same page. They're the mess. They're the 837 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: ones that are in disarray. 838 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: Right, the government doesn't need to shut down, None of 839 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: this is needed, right. 840 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean, first of all, let's be clear, 841 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: there already was a deal on funding the government that 842 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 2: was made between President Biden and mccar and we had 843 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: that deal set in place. We had set essential targets 844 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: for funding the government, and then, of course McCarthy now 845 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: chose to go back on those and he's now lying 846 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: to the American public saying that he wants a new 847 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: deal with the President. We already had a deal, and 848 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: the present's been very clear there is nothing to negotiate 849 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 2: because we already negotiated it. And so instead now McCarthy 850 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: wants to have all these conditions and cut funding for 851 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 2: veterans and kept funding for kids that are low income 852 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: and food stamps and all this crazy stuff. It's really unfortunately, 853 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: it's really shameful, but we've also kind of expect this 854 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: of him and his leadership. He is pretty safe to say, 855 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: the weakest, you know, speaker in modern history. 856 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shocked, and by shocked, I mean not at 857 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: all shocked. 858 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, So let's play this out. 859 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: Seems like we're going to get into a shutdown. What 860 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: are the options here once we're in this shutdown for 861 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: Democrats getting us out? 862 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: The few different options. I think the first important thing 863 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: is that the Democrats in the White House right now 864 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: are holding a line and essentially reminding the country that 865 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: this is an extreme maga republican shutdown. They made this decision. 866 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 2: We had a deal, and what they want to essentially 867 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: reopen the government is cutting all sorts of benefits, healthcare programs, 868 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: for a low income folks food program, all of these 869 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 2: crazy ideas, ideas, by the way, that are not being 870 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: promoted by the kind of quote unquote moderates of their party, 871 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: but by the extreme the Matt Gates's and the Paul 872 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: Gosars of the world. These are the folks that are 873 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: basically driving these programs. And let's be very clear that 874 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: includes but by the way, cutting additional healthcare options for 875 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: women in this country as it relates to abortion and 876 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: abortion and access and so that those issues are they're 877 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: not starters for us. They're non starters for us. And 878 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 2: so we're going to hold the line. Now. If they 879 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: have to choose not to fund the government, which is 880 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: horrific by the way, we're talking about millions of people 881 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: impacted across the country, then at that point they're gonna 882 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: have to make a decision, and the moderates in their 883 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: cockers have to make a decision if they want to 884 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 2: actually cut some sort of deal that could actually pass. 885 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: Senate Republicans right now are working with Senate Democrats. They're 886 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: going to send over to us of some sort of 887 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: package continuing resolution at least from the government for a 888 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: period of time, and that's what we hope we can 889 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 2: vote for. We need at least continue funding the government 890 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: until we can figure this all out and until Kevin 891 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: McCarthy can get control of his magat caucus. 892 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting to see, like we find ourselves in 893 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: a situation where you can't be a moderate Republican. Right, 894 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: So McCarthy has this four vote majority, which is pretty small, 895 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: and you have all of these Republicans who have won 896 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: in Biden districts. I mean, really, Republicans would not have 897 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: the House had it not been for the enormous and 898 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: I can say this because we're not on cable television 899 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: fuck up that happened in New York and California. And 900 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: so it does seem to me like this is a 901 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: pickup opportunity for Democrats because we will be cruising. I mean, 902 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: the one thing that we know historically is that the 903 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: party it causes the shutdown, which is by the way, 904 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: always Republicans, tends to get blamed for the shutdown. 905 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And because we're not on cable I 906 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: will agree with the biggest fuck up possible, right, I mean, 907 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean our states, I mean New York and California. 908 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 2: We just like fucked up the whole majority here. And 909 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: so that's just something that has been hard and we 910 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 2: got to like move forward from that, and we will. 911 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 2: And I think that these Republicans quote unquote moderates who 912 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: don't seem very moderate anymore, they're concerned and they want 913 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 2: to deal with Democrats. I've talked to some of them. 914 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: They want to move this forward, but McCarthy's not letting 915 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: it because for him, holding onto power is more important. 916 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,760 Speaker 1: Is there a world in which a moderate Republican comes, 917 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: sweeps in and puts together a consortium. 918 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: That's on the table. I think that there is a 919 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: world that could happen. I think there's a group of 920 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: Republicans that are talking to Democrats about, you know, some 921 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: sort of bipartisan deal or we just don't know what 922 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: that would look like yet. Now I'll tell you from 923 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: the progressive perspective, I think the Progressive Caucus is pretty 924 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: united right now. We're supporting the President, and the President 925 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: has been very clear that we had a deal struck 926 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: and we're sticking to what we had truck and to 927 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 2: what he agreed to with McCarthy, and we're back in 928 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: the president right now. The deal is that they need 929 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 2: to fund the government and this shutdown is going to 930 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: be on mem and it's going to hurt a lot 931 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: of people. So they got to get their act together 932 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: and do it quick. 933 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just give us like the top line 934 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: on the shutdown what it will mean. 935 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what you see is like every day 936 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: that the shutdown goes on, things will actually get worse 937 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: for folks. And so they may not see an impact 938 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 2: on day one, but they certainly will begin to feel 939 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 2: it on day three and four. And that's because federal 940 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: workers essentially stop getting paid. And so when you think 941 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: about even folks that are working in our government offices, 942 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 2: federal firefighters, people that are receiving food assistance through federal programs, 943 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: that money just stops flowing and people essentially stop getting paychecks. 944 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: And so you can imagine the burden on folks that 945 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 2: this has. And not everyone, by the way, you know, 946 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 2: will get or have the luxury of getting retroactive pay. 947 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there are some folks that will essentially are 948 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 2: losing what they need to survive every single day. You're 949 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 2: talking about what two point three two points four million 950 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 2: jobs across the country. You're talking about a workforce that 951 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: is eighty percent outside of Washington, d C. These are 952 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 2: folks that the single largest impact, by the way, is 953 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: to my home state of California. Of any state outside 954 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 2: of DC, we're going to have hundreds of thousands of jobs. 955 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: It'll be immediately impacted. So this is really serious for 956 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: people's lives. And most of the Republicans that are here, 957 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they don't care or come from working class backgrounds, 958 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 2: and they're not going to feel the impact like many 959 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: of us across the country are going to and are 960 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 2: not going to be hearing from our constituents. So it's 961 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 2: really sad to see. And Kevin McCarthy, quite frankly, should 962 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: be ashamed, being as a Californian himself, the fact that 963 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 2: his state is going to be impacted as much as 964 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: it is, and his home city of Bakersfield, California will 965 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: be as well. He literally turned his back on the state. 966 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Congressman Garcia. 967 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 2: Anytime, Thank you so much. 968 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 6: In all moment ofe Jesse Cannon. 969 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 7: Molly jung Fast, let me tell you we thought the 970 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 7: republic it's a word disarray about this shutdown, but this 971 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 7: impeachment inquiry, this is like, have you ever seen our 972 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 7: Congress look this off the rails. 973 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: They're not covering themselves with gory. They are not. One 974 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: of the things that I love about this Republican Caucus, 975 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: Republican MAGA Caucus, is that they are extremely bad at this. 976 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: And so well Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boubert are 977 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: driving the train here. We're seeing a lot of just 978 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable stupidity from Republicans. And you know, honestly, I'm not 979 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: very surprised. I am very impressed by how stupid they 980 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: are and how silly this whole impeachment is. I just 981 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: think that Democrats really dog walked Republicans today. And to 982 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: prove this point, we're going to cut to the videotape, 983 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: which in this case is audiotape, and we are going 984 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: to hear a little bit from Representative Connolly. 985 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 6: Hold on to those two words distracted and deflect, because 986 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,919 Speaker 6: I think this hearing is all about look over here, 987 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 6: not over there. So Professor Gerhart, when I've heard concerned 988 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 6: about branding, so shouldn't we be concerned about all those 989 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 6: Biden towers all over the world where foreign partnerships were 990 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 6: formed and influence was used here in the United States. 991 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 6: I've seen these towers in Indonesia, in the Philippines, in Turkey. 992 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 6: I even so one in Chicago. Shouldn't that be a 993 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 6: source of concern of this committee in terms of influence, 994 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 6: but foreign and domestic? When you know President Biden became. 995 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 8: President, if there were such things as Biden buildings, what 996 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 8: was there anyone who did have them? I think we 997 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 8: all know who could just tell us, because you're well 998 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 8: giving me the name talking about mister trauma. 999 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so good, and that impeachment silliness is our 1000 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: moment of fuck Gray. That's it for this episode of 1001 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to 1002 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: hear the best minds in politics makes sense of all 1003 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: this chaos. If you enjoyed what you've heard, please send 1004 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: it to a friend and keep the conversation going. And again, 1005 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: thanks for listening.