1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Hello, Let's just you. 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: H I am all in again with Scott Patterson and 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: one of them productions. 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Media. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: I heart Podcast one on one episode with Eddie Shan 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: we are breaking down Season one, episode twenty one, Love 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Daisy's and Troubadours. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Eddie, Welcome, how are you? I'm great man, good to 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: be here, Suzanne. 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, our newly anointed superstar with all the 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: charisma for Riz as the kid said the todays, Eddie Shin, 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: as you know, is Henri Cho on Gilmore Girls. He 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: was first appearance season one, episode seventeen, The Breakup, Part two, 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: where he meets Lane at a party and sparks do 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: fly unexpectedly because he is the perfect person that Lane's 17 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: mom would approve of and therefore he is unsuitable to Lane. 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Bud. This is the season one 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: and finale. Have you watched Gilmore Girls before? 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: This is your first episode? Ddie? No, I remember last 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: you when I when I got cast. So Gilmore Girls 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: was my first TV job ever, right Like I was 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: actually in Vegas when I got the call to you know, 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: from my agent twit and hadn't even met yet, being like, hey, 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: there's a show Gilmore girls, you have an audition. You've 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: got to be in La by Monday. It was like 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: a Saturday night or something like that. So I remember 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: after I got cast, I had watched that episode, and 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: then of course I rewatched the episode that you just mentioned. Episode. Yeah, well, 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: here we go. 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: Air date May tenth, two thousand and one, twenty almost 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: twenty four years ago. Here's their synopsis. Lower a line, Max, 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: we kindled the romance, and boy do that they ever? 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: As Luke and Rachel fade, Rory clashes with Tristan, which 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: is pretty easy to do. Who misleads Paris and Friends, 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: and finally speaks to Dean post breakup. Directed by the 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: one and only Amy Sherman Palladino, written by the one 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: and only Daniel palladin all right, let's get into this, guys, 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Rory and Dean's breakup and reunion. 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Rory and Dean have been through a rough patch. 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Since, they say, since she didn't say I love you 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: back when when Dean you know, said his I love 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: you and it was hanging out there like a big 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: moss of ball. Rory's curiosity leads her to look for 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Dean around Star Sola. 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: What you guys think of this? I liked it. 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was cute. The whole thing with 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: the younger sister. I thought was a little weird that 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: they had dated for three months but Clara didn't recognize 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: Rory and Rory did no Claire's name. I thought that 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: was a little odd, But in general I thought it 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: was cute how she was starting to realize she still 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: had feelings for Dean and was running around town looking 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: for him. 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: And they needed a little sister to like draw up 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: the drama of like, wait, what do you mean my 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: picture is still in his room or whatever? You know, 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: sort of draws you in to be like, wait o, 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: there's a little feelings or whatever. 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah she was. She got a little overbearing. 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: Laurie got a little overbearing there, didn't she trying to 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: force the issue go in the room and get the pictures. 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little stocker is Yeah it was. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: It was a little much, but I'm out a little 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: out of character for her, But I guess she feels 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: like she screws up and then she speaks. Roy does 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: at the town meeting in favor of the town Jupiter, 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: but her speech takes on a deeper meaning with hidden 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: messages regarding the way she feels about Deane. 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was a very clever device. 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: And I enjoy those scenes because you get to see 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: Dean react, you know, and it keeps us in the story. 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: So later Dean surprises Rory at Chilton, only to see 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: Rory in Tristan together. Good god, what a scene. What 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: a satisfying scene. I mean, if you're ever gonna you know, 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: wallop the creepy Tristan, right, that's the way to do it. Yeah, 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's this is just no coming back. 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Ro What did you guys think of that? Well? It 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: was especially good in light of the other sort of 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: love stories that had sort of come to a head, 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: come to ahead by this episode, which was you know, 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: obviously you're you're you know, I should say, Luke's story 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: with Rachel, and then you know Laura Lai, you know, 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: with with her whole sort of like you know, the proposal, 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: So everything sort of crescendoed and you're just kind of like, 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: well this is crazy, you know. So it was very satisfying. 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to sort of recap all this. Rory 88 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: finally says I love you back, but she doesn't say 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: I love you. She says, I love you you idiot, 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: don't you idiot? I loved Is that what she said? Yes, 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: it was just such a terrific It was such a 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: terrific film moment. 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Right. 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: And boy uh you know the director that where they 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: put the camera and how they focused on Tristan a 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: little bit into that moment where we could see his 97 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: entire world just crumble before our eyes and he just 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: put the books down. 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: It just put her books down and wandered off in 100 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: his sadness. 101 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and Rory and Dean have this passionate kiss right 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: in front of the entire Chiltern student body. Let me 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: ask you this, Henri and you two Susan, have either 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: of you gone out of your way accidentally to run 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: into someone you had feelings for? 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially at that age, like in school, Not 107 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: not that it was you know, particularly hard to do. 108 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, you just go go go to like Barnes 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: and Nobles to study, you know, because you know someone 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: else is studying there, and you know you bring your 111 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: group of friends that they bring their you know, group 112 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: of friends and you also hang out but all the time. Yeah, 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: of course. 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to do basically what Rory did because 115 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: our you know, my group of friends and I our 116 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: crushes all worked at places that we would go into normally. 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: So we would just accidentally go to the yolkre shop 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: when someone was working, like it was exactly the same 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: thing as Rory going into Dosie's Market. But yeah, we 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: totally did that at that age. We drive by their 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: house and all that. Yeah, for sure. 122 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've all done that at one time 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: or another. 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: It's usually high school. Yeah, you don't know, you don't 125 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: know how else to go about it. But the semi 126 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, stocker is shit right exactly. 127 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: We don't do that anymore though, No, No. 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: I stopped doing that last week Tuesday. Let's talk about 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: this storyline. Max proposes to Laura. I wow, this was 130 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: packed with Max Laurel I cage match, what what a 131 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: and a really great scene. You know, I think the 132 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Luke Max uh uh how should we call this? 133 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Uh? They had some kind of a I. 134 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Think we can call it jealousy. 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: It was a measuring contest. 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way way to put it. 137 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: And and if that wasn't great enough, the scene that 138 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: followed between Max and Laurel I was just great. 139 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: It was. 140 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: It was my favorite Max Laurel I scene. 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: You mean, the one where she shows up at the hotel. 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no, in the living room, because it 143 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: spills into the living room because Max says, you know, 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: what's going on there? I sense something's going on, like 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: what is he doing? 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Like right after you leave? 147 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: He seems to be everywhere, you know, like I'm sensing something. 148 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: So they're in the living room, they're going at it, 149 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: and then they decided to start over it. That absolutely 150 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: is my favorite because it. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: Because it. 152 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: Shows her feelings, it shows everybody's feelings, and it shows 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: his insecurity. It shows Luke's insecurity in another way, and 154 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: it shows Laureli's confusion right and her unconscious attraction to 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: Luke perhaps who knows right. Very interesting dynamic there, interesting 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: how they how they write it. And one of the 157 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: more satisfying scenes in the entire series is that scene overall, 158 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: but especially the one in the living room between Max 159 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: and Laurel I. 160 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Well, frustrating too, frustrating scene too, because we spend so 161 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: much time with Luke and you know, obviously he goes 162 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: through his whole break, you know, Rachel takes off and 163 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: so you know, secretly, as fans, like you're like, oh, 164 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Max is a good guy. He's playing you know, he's 165 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: staying the right things. Obviously by the end of the 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: scene he's sort of doing the right things, I guess. 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: But as a fan you're like, well, that's getting in 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: the way of what we want for Lorelai, which is Luke. 169 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: You know. So it's like this, It's like, why am 170 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I hating on a guy that's just like a great 171 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: a great dude. So it almost gives you internal conflict 172 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: in the same way maybe that Laura. 173 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: Lies right right, and Luke is so much more cautious 174 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: than Max. Max really just lays it out there, doesn't he. 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not shy. He's like, this is how 176 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: I feel, Boom, what's going on? 177 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: I love you? Will you marry me? 178 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: And who's this guy? And I don't like how that 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: makes me? So it seems like Max is more in 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: touch with his feelings. He's not a shame to lay 181 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: it down the line with her because the statics are 182 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: so high for him. He just but I think are 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: you getting the sense that Max is blowing it because 184 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: he's pushing too hard? 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: I that is, That's kind of where I went with it. 186 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: And I feel like the more I watched the show, 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: maybe the less I like Max. He's very he was 188 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: very possessive. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: I felt like, uh, right away, coming from. 190 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: The last episode where he was getting on Laura Live 191 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: for not telling all her friends that they had started 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: speaking again and he wasn't happy about that, And now 193 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: this episode he varied that scene in the foyer with Luke. 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: He was totally trying to mark his territory. And I 195 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: was kind of glad that Laura called him out on 196 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: the proposal because I didn't feel like he was proposing 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: because he really wanted to get married. It almost felt 198 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: like he was proposing to show that she's his. 199 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can almost get what Max is trying 200 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: to do up until that point, Like I mean, if 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: that's your girl and some dudes like pushing up against her, yeah, 202 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: you got to say something. And even if it's a 203 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: little inappropriate or jealous, you understand where that comes from. 204 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: But once the proposal hit, I was like, that is 205 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: such a misstep, Like, where's that coming from? I totally agree. 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I totally agree. 207 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: That is the worst time to do that. When you're 208 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: in the middle of a fight. That's just that's just 209 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: absolute desperation that you're going to lose her. 210 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so. 211 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: It really does show a very deep insecurity. 212 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he does love her, I think, 213 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: but I think he was just the proposal was more 214 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: out of panic than anything else. 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: But Suzanne, love is letting something go, and if it's 216 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: really love, it comes back. You know that here, all right, 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Sophocles will shut up here. 218 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: When we get to the inn. The daisies I thought 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: were an adorable touch, But he wasn't there. He was 220 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: on the phone, which that kind of bugged me too. 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Like he should have been there. 222 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: Like he may be just in his underwear, covered in 223 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: roast in days thousand das with a note on top 224 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: and say, you know, find me or something. 225 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: That wouldn't have been desperate at all. I never even 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: thought about that because I was just so caught up 227 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: visually in the moment. I was like, oh, that's a 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: that's a really cool scene. That's a great gesture. But 229 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: you're right, and he's just like, okay, cool, I'll tell 230 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: you that she called. 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was it was beautifully said. 232 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful that's right, that's what it was. 233 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it was just over the top. 234 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: And that was way more than a thousand daisies. 235 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it looked like like ten thousand. 236 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, but her reaction was was just really precious, wasn't it. 237 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: And it was mixed with it still the confusion and 238 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: the indecision. It wasn't like, this is it, He's got me, 239 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: there's this doubt. 240 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, guys. 241 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: Even when she was talking to Luke at the end, 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: she's like, well I think I'm happy maybe, like just yeah, 243 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: she was flattered by the gesture, but still wasn't sure 244 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: about the deeper the deeper sentiment. 245 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's that confusion like this is everything I want, 246 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: but it's. 247 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: The wrong guy, you know, kind of subtextually, and. 248 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: She does that so well, right, Yeah, you can feel that, 249 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: you can read it on her face a little bit 250 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: and without being obvious about it. 251 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: That thing's hard. It's hard, right, Eddie. It's so hard. 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: So fun, Scott, but so fun. 253 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: It's fun, but it's really hard to nail those moments. 254 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you really just have to prep and oh 255 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: my all right, lor Ling, Okay, so yeah, there you go. 256 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean I think that storyline we can put that 257 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: to bed as it were, no pun intention. 258 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get into. 259 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: A little bit Luke and Rachel breakup stuff. 260 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Uh what do you. 261 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Think I felt overall it was a little bit incomplete. 262 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I wanted more. 263 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: I wanted to see more, you know, I don't know, 264 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: one more scene of not just the sort of finale 265 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: where she's packed and she's gone and it's like, hey. 266 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Did you want something to like tie up the loose 267 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: ends more or what? Yeah, I did, just to have 268 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: at least a conversation. You know. I think it's because. 269 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that the fans are so invested at 270 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: that point in Rachel and Luke, and they're a little 271 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: more invested in Max and Laurele I because they really 272 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: developed Max. I mean Max has been, you know, a 273 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: serious contender. And did you guys ever take Rachel seriously 274 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: as a contender for his heart? 275 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I. 276 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: You do in a way where you think he's going 277 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: it's a wayward path and you want to get him 278 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: off that path, you know, fan wise, like no, no, no, no, 279 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: he's for laurel I he loves laurel I don't do that, Rachel, 280 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: we hate you. 281 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Go away? 282 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: So they didn't, you know, so they wrote it that way, 283 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: so he went away. But with Max and laurel I 284 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: do you think the fans felt that way too, Like 285 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Max go away? This is the wrong path, because it 286 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: felt right a lot of the time, right between Max 287 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: and Laurelai until he started getting you know, uber possessive. 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, that's my thought. 289 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: I tend to agree with that. I think they didn't 290 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: fully develop Rachel to the extent that they did with Max, 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: because Max was also a figure in Rory's life, you know, 292 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: as her teacher, so he was kind of always around, 293 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: and Rachel was more like just a plot device to 294 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: put some tension or some space between Luke and LORELEI. 295 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: Having said that, I actually liked Rachel and Luke. I 296 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: liked that storyline. They weren't endgame, but I liked that 297 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: kind of tension between the three of them, and I 298 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: agree that there could have been more there. They could have. 299 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I get that they were at the end 300 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: of the season, and so they kind of wanted to 301 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: just tie that off and not have to carry it 302 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: into the next season, but I would have liked to 303 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: see another couple episodes of that storyline to see how 304 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: it all played out. I liked Rachel as a character. 305 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: I did too. But at the same time, though, since 306 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: we spent so much more like this proportionate amount of 307 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: time with Luke just his reaction to like always being 308 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: at laurel Ies fixing stuff up, you're like, what else 309 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: really needs to be said? Like if his heart is 310 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: not even in that space and he's physically not even there, 311 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Like what more do we really need to see from 312 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: a conversation or what could she say to make him 313 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, to win us over? Whereas 314 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: for Laurel I, it's almost the opposite, where we're almost 315 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of like we're almost like pulling our hair out 316 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: because we're like, the gestures are so grand, but you're 317 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: almost hoping that she doesn't get swept away by the 318 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: gesture and to listen to like what's underneath that, because 319 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: they're so over the top that you're like, who wouldn't 320 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: fall in love with that? But then you have to 321 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: like take a breath and be like, well, what's going 322 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: on inside? And so you're like, please pay attention to 323 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: that too. 324 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true. 325 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: I also liked that Laurel I became really unhinged and 326 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 2: kind of yelled at Luke for being there so early 327 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: and driving her crazy, and that they have the comfort 328 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: with each other where she can do that and he 329 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: doesn't take it personally, you know what I mean. 330 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: It's almost like they are already I. 331 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: Mean they're behaving somewhat in a way where they're already 332 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: a married couple and settled in their relationship, but without 333 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: you know, you know, consummating it or being together in 334 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: a real sense in reality. 335 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: And the flip side is true too, because Luke tends 336 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: to be so rough around the edges and so not 337 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: willing to open up to anybody that the fact that 338 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: he does even show, like you know, a modicum of 339 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: emotion and openness with Laura l or like see, she's 340 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: the one who can like draw you out and like 341 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: you can be open with her. That that that goes 342 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: a long way, Whereas I feel like Max can be 343 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: open with anybody. He's just so well spoken and smooth 344 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: in that way that that makes us love Luke that 345 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: much more. You know, I should say, Luke and Laura 346 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Lai that much more right, right? Right? 347 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Rachel all packed up and he walks 348 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: into the diner and it's see Saya and Aura. Yeah, 349 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: uh relief. Did we feel relief? Where we like, yeah, 350 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: that was going to happen, And I'm glad they didn't 351 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: make up such a meal out of it. You know, 352 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: what do you think? 353 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: I think it wasn't unexpected. I mean, I don't think 354 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: that anybody watching it for the first time would think 355 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: that they're that relationship was going to continue. I mean 356 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: we kind of we kind of knew it wasn't going 357 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: to last, right all right. 358 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: I felt bad. I still felt bad for her. 359 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: M hmm. 360 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: So sweet, and she obviously, like anyway, just thinks that 361 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: it Sometimes it just turns out that way. It's one 362 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: of those things. So here's a question for both of you. 363 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: What is it about Luke and Laurel I that makes 364 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: them such a great match even though they aren't together yet? 365 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Why Why does it work so well? 366 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: I think it's it's what you just touched on, that 367 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: they're just so comfortable with each other, Like they're clearly 368 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: good friends, and you know, they they can they they 369 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: bicker and they banter, but it's all good at the end, 370 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: Like they always if they argue, they always make up. 371 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: Like it's just there's just a basis there that's of 372 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: friendship before the physical attraction. So I think it's just 373 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: that they know each other well and they're good. 374 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: Friends, do you think, Eddie, Yeah, it's kind of like 375 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: that thing else, you know, I have. I have like 376 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: certain people in my life where you know, they could 377 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: be a little gruff, a little rough around the edges, 378 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: but they're like the meanest, nicest people I know, do 379 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I kind of feel of 380 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: like that's kind of like Luke to Laurelize that like 381 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: he does little things that you're like, if you didn't 382 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: know any better, you just be like, yeah, he's just 383 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: getting a coffee or whatever it is. But there's like 384 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: little things that you're like, oh, and you know, and 385 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: obviously a big part of it is just like chemistry, 386 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: right like between between you and Lauren, there's obviously something 387 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: that we see that's sort of like an alchemy that 388 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: we're like something works, you know, and it's almost unspoken, 389 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: and so the mixture of all that stuff, I think. 390 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's they're so unabashedly themselves and they feel that 391 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: they can be themselves around each other. Yeah, so there's 392 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 2: that comfort level right where he doesn't change who he 393 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: is in her presence, and she doesn't change. She becomes 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: more of who she is in his presence, and I 395 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: think it's the same with him. So like any type 396 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: of social mask that they would wear, ever, however thin 397 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 2: it might be, comes off when they are together, and 398 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: so there's that comfort level, I think. 399 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, very very. 400 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Interesting dynamic between those two. 401 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: All. 402 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Let's get into Paris's resentment towards Rory and Tristan. Laugh 403 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: out loud stuff, the Eliza Wheel reactions, the anger, the force, 404 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: the potential violence is just too funny for words, all 405 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: wrapped up in one sort of shortish. 406 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Teenage girl in a private school. 407 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: So Tristan stretching the truth by telling Madeline, Louise and 408 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: Paris that he's taking Rory to peach the PJ. 409 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: Harvey concert, He's not even stretching the truth. 410 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: He's lying right, right. 411 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: Right, right, not even aware that PJ. 412 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: Harvey is a woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 413 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: And then later a little later on, Paris with her 414 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: passive aggressive resentment towards Rory for setting up Tristan in 415 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: Paris in the first place, right, Do you think Rory 416 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: should have done more to smooth over things with. 417 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Paris, because I think she did a lot. 418 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know that she could have done more. 419 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Paris was set in her belief as to 420 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: what happened and she wasn't having anything that Rory had 421 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: to say, So I don't know that Rory could have 422 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: done anymore. 423 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: I thought I thought Rory defended herself very well in 424 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: a situation where, you know, Paris flipped the power dynamic 425 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: and I'm editor and you're gonna get parking a lot 426 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: of assignments, and now Rory's like, oh geez, now I've 427 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: got to kiss the ring a little bit and you know, 428 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: and make up make it up here. 429 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: And I thought she quit herself very well. M hmm. Yeah. 430 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: She Paris wasn't having it, wasn't having it, so find 431 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: herself in a pickle there, Rory again. 432 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. I felt bad for Rory because Tristan was a 433 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: complete jerk in this episode, spreading lies about her and 434 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: getting her in trouble with Paris, and uh, you know, 435 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: Rory was just the innocent victim. She didn't do anything wrong. 436 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: I felt bad for her. 437 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: I forget. Did Rory ever say straight up that, like 438 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Tristan's just lying, I'm not going with him. Yes, she 439 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: did say that, right yeah, and then and it still 440 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: sort of fell on deaf ears right, yes, okay. 441 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: She was an av Yeah, yeah, there was that fog 442 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: of rage over her brain, just like she was just 443 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: on the war path. But again, hysterical stuff. The slamming 444 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: of the locker just great. 445 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Waiting for a tram or something like that. 446 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: Oh and then they're all like positioned on the stairs 447 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 2: like in some choreographed and then they turn and walk away. 448 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: Ye did they steal that from something that It looked 449 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: like they Still it looked. 450 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: Like they did, but I don't know, huh. I probably 451 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: shouldn't know. 452 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: But it was that mean girls or something, and I 453 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: don't know. 454 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: It definitely did look like it was an. 455 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: Omock thing, all right. 456 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: The Troubadour Wars, which I found just fall off the 457 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: couch funny. Any Grantly Phillips that you get in the episodes, 458 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: they're just a joy. And he really got some nice 459 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: coverage in this episode, right. He had had some lines, 460 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: he had a couple of scenes, just a great storyline 461 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: for for Grant and and David, the stars hollow Town Troubadour. 462 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Getting some unexpected competition across the street. So good, so good, 463 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: so Grant. 464 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: You know, Grant's only been the town Troubadour for six 465 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: months and he presents his concerns the town town hall meeting. 466 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: I thought I thought. 467 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: Michael Winters was on fire in this in this episode. 468 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: It was just this was my favorite town hall meeting, 469 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: I think it was. This was really like tops for 470 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: me so far, but really just great funny stuff and everybody, 471 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, they decide on it and vote and that's it. 472 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Too bad, Too bad, David, you're done, You're out. 473 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: You can't do that to the Town Troubadour. We value 474 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: this guy so much. And that's the same town all 475 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: meeting where Rory makes her little speech, right, yeah, yeah, 476 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Why do you guys think this was even in the episode. 477 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: There's got to be a reason. 478 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: There always has to be some weird town quirkiness going on. 479 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, it also, as you mentioned, sets up Rory's big 480 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: speech yeah right, which is directly relates to what the 481 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Troubadour is going through. As you know, obviously the audience 482 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: knows better, but the people in the town hall think 483 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: it's just about the troubadour. 484 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: Right, but what a brilliant way to do it. 485 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Right, so good, so charming. 486 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a brilliant, right charming way to do this, 487 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: and so entertaining and so much fun to watch. 488 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: And it ties back to you know, there's there's like 489 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: a territory war going on between Luke and Max, and 490 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: now there's this literal territory war going on between these 491 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: two troubadours fighting over this town. 492 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Right and then Dean interested in and interested. 493 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: In Paris and yeah, right, yeah, all fighting for turf. 494 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 495 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: I loved the way the troubadour thing wrapped up though, 496 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: like with the two of them performing, because. 497 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: That's what music's all about. Man, it was so good. Yeah. 498 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: So now we have this closing scene we see special 499 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: moment at the end where and I thought this was 500 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: really the great ending of all endings of any episode 501 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: to see these two running at each other, mother and 502 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: daughter running at each other because their lives are starting 503 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: to really blossom and they're in love again and they 504 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: all and they just run at each other and jump 505 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: up and down like they're like, you know, Lorealize the 506 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: little kid and we really see how special their relationship is. 507 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just very heartwarming to see that. 508 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: And I think anybody watching that mother and daughter watching 509 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: that scene is just they fall deeper and deeper in 510 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: love with this show. 511 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: And I bet you the tears were just flowing, you know. 512 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean, especially in light of all the relationships that 513 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: we talked about in this episode. It brings it back 514 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: to like what the show's at the heart. It is 515 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: called gil Mortals, right, and this is this is the 516 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: primary thing. 517 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: And the healing quality of the show, because you know, 518 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: I do a lot of conventions, and what I hear 519 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: most what is the mother daughter and how it brought 520 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: us back together. And now we watch it religiously together 521 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: and it's healed our relationship and now our father's involved 522 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: and our brothers are involved, and it's just it's really 523 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: helped our family. So it's like this this tonic for 524 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: people's lives and it's just wonderful to hear it. And 525 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: and that scene, that scene encapsulates that the power of love. 526 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: The power of love? Right, Yeah, what are we gonna say? Sorry? 527 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say I loved the camera 528 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: work the way that they told the story with the 529 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 3: close up of each of them running and then it 530 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: goes out to the macro level with the crane shot 531 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: above the whole square. I just I love the way 532 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: they did that. 533 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, thinks they know what they're doing things. They know 534 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing. 535 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: They's they are master storytellers for sure. What a what 536 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: a team Eddie. Now we're going to focus on you, 537 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: young man. 538 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Can I just say yes? After seeing Gilmore Girls, after 539 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: of years of like, you know, obviously there was a 540 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: fair amount of nostalgia for me since, like I said, 541 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: that was my first job. I mean, you guys, you know, 542 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: obviously you guys talk about this all the time, their 543 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: pot and stuff. But I have to say, just the 544 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: overall just feeling, I didn't, you know, I didn't expect 545 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: to feel the way that I felt after that show, 546 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, after that one episode, just to be like, man, 547 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: it just feels like an old friend that you just 548 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: love so much, and it just you just wish that 549 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: life could feel that way, right, And I just I 550 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: don't know, it was pretty shocking, is shocking to me. 551 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, that was like I think 552 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 2: you're trying to say you teared up. 553 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I was like wallowing. I was like, Wow, that vibe 554 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: is just so it's just unique. 555 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the fields that it does. Man, all right, 556 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: how did you first get the role of Henry Show? 557 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember? Yeah? I was? I was. I was 558 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: doing theater in Chicago. My my reps out there were like, hey, 559 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: you're getting some interest down in LA. I was like, great, 560 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to go. I just want to be 561 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: a theater actor in Chicago. They're like, you're a moron. 562 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Just go see what happens. Chicago's not going anywhere. So 563 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: I was like okay. So I took like a two 564 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: week road trip with my buddy Jimmy. We're in Vegas. 565 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: This will date me. My page is blowing up and 566 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like all right, and they're like, yeah, 567 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you got to be in La by Monday. Was I 568 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: was there for the weekend and and they're like, there's 569 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: a show Gilmore Girls that wants to you know, meet you. 570 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Drop my buddy off at the airport, pulled out the 571 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: old paper Thomas Guide and I was like, where this 572 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: Warner Brother's place When there was a room full of people. 573 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Turns out that all the casting directors were actually from Chicago, 574 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: so that sort of put me at ease. Uh and 575 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: then yeah, I read for it, and then like a 576 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: day and a half later, they're like, yeah, cut, you're 577 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: you got the part. And I was like, nice, it's crazy. 578 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many episodes did you expect to be and 579 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: did they tell you? 580 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember. At the time, they may have even 581 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: said that I was recurring, but I'm not sure. But 582 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean at the time I was so green, I 583 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't even know what that meant, right, Because I think 584 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the first season ended, I went back to Chicago to 585 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: do a theater show and then and then they called 586 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: again to be like, hey, we wrote him in a 587 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: few more episodes. Yeah mm hmm. Nice. Yeah that's great. Well, 588 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: so what was it like working with Keiko? Yeah, it was, 589 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: it was It was great. It was funny watching the 590 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: episode that we went over because my memory of it's 591 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: it's weird when like offset dynamics mirror onset dynamics, and 592 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: I remember like I would rarely see like Teal, Paris 593 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: and Shelley without one without the other two, so you know, 594 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: and then with Keko, I always saw Kiko sort of separately. 595 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: And then I would always you know, you know as 596 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: far as and then and then Rory would just sort 597 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: of sort of be coming in and out as as 598 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I saw her. But Keko was just such such a sweetheart. 599 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: And I've seen her since a few times, like she's uh, 600 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: she just does a lot of improv and there was 601 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: a time where I was deep into the improv scene, 602 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: so I would see her at shows and you know 603 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: we'd always say hi and stuff like that. But yeah, 604 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: she was always just really really fun and sweet. Favorite 605 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: memories I think just the excitement of, like I said, 606 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: this was my first TV job and I had just 607 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: landed in in LA so just just you know, the 608 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: thrill of just being on an actual professional set and 609 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: like you know the party scene where I met they 610 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: were like all these extras and I'm like, whoa, this 611 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: is like this is how they do it, and just 612 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: like you know, wide eyed, and it was this a 613 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: great foraid to the industry. Yeah, uh, do you get 614 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: recognized for being on the show. Yeah, you know, years 615 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: after this, like maybe about five years ago, I was 616 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: doing a different show, and like mothers would bring their 617 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: daughters to like you know meet the cast of that 618 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: show and the daughters would be fans of that show, 619 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: and the mothers would be fans of Gilmore Girl. So 620 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: it'd be like this weird dynamic where like the kid 621 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: would be like, hey, you're Dave and the parents would 622 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: be like, no, he's Henry. So you know, yeah, just randomly. Yeah, 623 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls fans very passionate. Man Like, there's no there's 624 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: not like a middle ground of like the Gilmore Girl 625 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: like either they're in or they're like, what's you know, 626 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Either they're like I don't know what Gilmore Girls would 627 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: like do he's Henry show? You know? Yeah, they are 628 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: quite extraordinary. Yeah, so you were a series regular on 629 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: that eighties show. Yeah, that was the show that took 630 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: me off. Gilmore Girls. Oh really yeah, because, like the 631 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: way I remember it well, people know that seventies show, 632 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: and the creators of that show were creating a spin off, 633 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: and so we let the show, you know, Gilmore Girls, 634 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, Amy know that hey he's I mean I 635 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: probably went in the audition for that thing like seven 636 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: or eight times, and by the time the fifth or 637 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: sixth audition came around, we sort of let Gilmore Girls 638 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, this is turned this might turn 639 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: into something, and of course it did, and then so 640 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, Amy was like, oh that's too bad. You know, 641 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: we had other things planned for Henry. But you know 642 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: what Best of Love? Right? Seven auditions? Yeah, because like 643 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: they did again, I was sort of new to the 644 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: to the city and a lot of the cast were 645 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: like who Eddie who, Like where's he from? Blah blah blah. 646 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: So you know, the first couple of rounds were just 647 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: like these hundreds of people where they just read you. 648 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: And then eventually I got to meet the producers and 649 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: then you know, you sort of moved. 650 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: So it took you, you know, three or four auditions 651 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: just to get to the producer level. 652 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like three auditions to get to the producer, 653 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: then like two of the producers, and then there's a 654 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: studio level, and then then you know, the network level. Yeah. 655 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: Wow, man, I just I got this job so easily. 656 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I had Yeah, that was it. 657 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: One read Yeah, because it was because Luke was a 658 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: guest star in the pilot. 659 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then they're just like, yeah, this 660 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: guy's gonna stick around. I didn't have to get amazing, 661 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: and I've been through all that. 662 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: I've been through the whole Ringer of Yeah, all the 663 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: studio level, network level, you know, it takes right and 664 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: you never you're going to get it. 665 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been through. I don't have to go through 666 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: that on this. That's that's the best way where you 667 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: sort of take the back door. Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's amazing. 668 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: Announced in the first meeting. 669 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: Listen, this is the only chance you're going to get 670 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: to read me, So either get or I'm sailing. 671 00:34:53,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: Nice cocky. I remember in the room there was for 672 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. It was it was it was it was 673 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: the two casting directors of the casting associate who has 674 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: now since become a casting director, and then Amy was there, 675 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: and then there was another like consultants to the show 676 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: who wanted to see if, like I could authentically pass 677 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: as like a young Korean American man. Oh really, okay, 678 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I think it was she was like, actually Amy's actual 679 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: friend Helen Pie. Is that who it was? 680 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: Now? 681 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. 682 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: Helen Pie. It was probably Helen. Yeah, yeah, they're very 683 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: good friends. 684 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: And I have and I have the audition side somewhere 685 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: for Gilmore Girls. I was trying to find him before 686 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: the podcast, be like what scene did I read for? 687 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: But it's floating around in my house somewhere right right. 688 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: So you've had a pretty diverse career, really, West World, Beef, sitcoms, 689 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Alex and Katie. You prefer comedy drama? 690 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: What do you like? I think just my personality I 691 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: think lends it self to like the multicam. Well, I 692 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: just like it as the genre. But as you know, 693 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: as you know, as you go through things in your 694 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: own life, you kind of want to express it in 695 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: different ways, and sometimes you're just feeling like, I want 696 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: to do something a little bit more dramatic versus I 697 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, letting loose a little bit on 698 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: the silly side. So that was something that was always 699 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: important to me to do a variety of different stuff. 700 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: Let's create a new character of the multiicam dramas so. 701 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: We don't have to do it over and over and 702 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: over again, you know what I mean. 703 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you still have to do it. 704 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: You still have to repeat your stuff on the multicams, 705 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: but they're all unique takes and they're all preserved that way. Yeah. 706 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean. The tricky thing about that is sometimes they 707 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: just read write a lot. I mean not sometimes they 708 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: all the time they're like, hey, your new line is 709 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: this and sort of on the spot you have to deliver. 710 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: But some I'm sure some of the hours you had 711 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: on Gilmore Girls must have been brutal. Yeah. 712 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, but I mean that's just that's just TV. 713 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's the nature of the thing it is. 714 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: That's that's the nature of the beast. They they say 715 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: they don't pay for to act. They pay you to 716 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: wait to wait around. 717 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right right. Any upcoming projects fans should look 718 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: out for. Uh yeah, I'm doing a bunch of voiceover 719 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: stuff right now. Unfortunately they're sort of riddled with like 720 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: I signed my life away with like NDA's you know, 721 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't talk about this stuff. I'm like, you know whatever, 722 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: but just you know, voiceover stuff I'm doing, you know, 723 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: a project with Sony. We're working on a game and 724 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: then some an animated series that's gonna come out sometime 725 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: whatever they decide to release it. 726 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: I am not one to get you to violate India's 727 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: new I don't. 728 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: Want to get in the middle of that. 729 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, We're gonna do rapid Fire. You ready, 730 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: let's go passing your seatbelts, coffee, your tea coffee. 731 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: How do you take your coffee. Black Children or Yale 732 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: Yale Team Dean Jess or Logan Dean Why I it's 733 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a gut instinct thing where I'm 734 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: just like I just like Dean. You know, it's none 735 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: of my business. Richard or Emily, Oh, Richard. 736 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: Again, none of my business? Favorite season? 737 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: Oh one? The introduction to it All one is fantastic? 738 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Wow? I am being very serious. 739 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: One word to describe Gilmour Girls heart Mmmm, So'syne? 740 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: What about you? 741 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: Uh comfortable? 742 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: Favorite character Henry Laura Lai answer, good answer, most iconic 743 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls quote. 744 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: I will say I I I rarely laugh out loud, 745 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: but I did laugh out loud when Rory said I 746 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: you know I love you? You did? I was like heart, 747 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: that hit my heart. You know I don't do that 748 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. Luke's Diner or Friday night dinner. Oh Lukes. 749 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: There you go. 750 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: It says a lot about you like that. Ni Shan, 751 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: you are amazing. Thank you for spending some time with us. 752 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 2: We've heard your ass catching up. All the best to 753 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: you and good luck on all your future projects and 754 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: please please come back. All right, man, there's more to 755 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: unearth here. Okay, thanks for coming on already, Shin, everybody. 756 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: Let's give him a round of applause, all right, Bud, 757 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: take care, all right, everybody, and also again follow us 758 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email 759 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.