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How about that 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:31.399 frozen tundra that's see, that's Wisconsin, bro that they like. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.360 I'm just trying to like warm up to the idea 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.000 that I'm staring at. Dan Hans is wearing a Dan 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.800 hands this shirt. A picture of himself on the shirt. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.640 Dan leads. Dan leads the all time using the third 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.200 person standings on this podcast to two. I don't know 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.320 who has to, but so wearing your own T shirt 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.160 makes sense. Now let's clear it up for the audience 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.160 a little bit. This shirt was a gift from a 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.400 really talented illustrator. His name is Electric. Excuse it electric, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.240 I call him Electric. Alexis Frederick Frost and uh he 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.040 he actually sent us some of his children's books that 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.839 he illustrates. That has since become Jack's favorite book ever. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.520 Uh so, so check that out. The book is called 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.320 I'm Gonna plug in there if it's gonna come up. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.440 The book is called Ogres Away Book. Anyway. He also 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.639 drew some you know what do they call these um 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:31.880 um characterizations caricatures of each of us. Put it on 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.760 a T shirt. Great, Yeah, and I'm shooting something a 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.880 little later today for the our Tuesday Super Bowl show 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.720 video show that will air. Uh. We're taping a Tuesday 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:46.280 in Minnesota, will air on next Friday, a week from Friday. Uh. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.040 And you know that's part of my costume. Okay, and 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.280 I'm totally cool that i'd wear it anyway, But I 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.160 didn't notice something, uh that nobody's like mentioned it as 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.000 they're like walking. Matt Harmon, for instance, the fantasy guy 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.040 Matt Matt Harmon walked by me kind of his eyes 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.359 dropped down, didn't say anything, which means he's like, as 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.520 he's walking by, he's like, oh, what a dude, he's 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.200 judging you. And I mean it's you know, you're you're 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:15.720 doing it for a a work mandated video role. It's fine, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.720 so you should not be judged. But people don't know 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.040 that you're going to be heavily judged by at least 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.119 a few people in the building. That that's Harmon's move. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:29.840 He's always just judging us quietly. Um, is that true? 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.079 I don't think that's true. We'll get Maddie in in 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.600 the offseason on the Around the NFL podcast Big Show 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.720 today again, Yes, the last show before we head to 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.440 Minneapolis are super Bowl week. We can say super Bowl 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.080 week again with no punishment. Uh, no trips to the 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.280 NFL media agony Chamber. So we are in the clear. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.640 Colleen's still in there. Actually it's a little girl. You 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.520 wonder how much he can take. That's I'm concerned that 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.360 maybe we might have taken this too far. Something about 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:02.080 it from a human resources side feels a little off. Well, no, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.200 they're the ones that built that place. If I know, Coneen, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.680 she's just napping in there. Let's hope. So let's hope 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.320 it's not a long nap. Today's show it is super 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.880 Bowl Week once the calendar turns over, and uh, we're 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.760 gonna do a little super Bowl week overs and unders. Uh. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.680 This is all of us have covered many super bowls now, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.360 so we kind of know the beats of the week. Uh, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.599 and we've seen the Patriots more than Jesus Christ. Another 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.880 week of the Patriots. This will be the fifth, get ready, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.200 the fifth Patriots super Bowl alone that I've covered. Look 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.560 at that, how about that? It's ridicular there two and two. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.240 So this you've covered five Patriots super Bowl because my 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.120 first one that I covered was the first Giants Patriots 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.400 in two thousand and eight two thousand seventh season. You've 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.200 covered five super Bowls for your favorite team. I am 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.280 almost thirty eight years old and my team has never 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.440 played in the Super Bowl in my lifetime. There is 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.720 a difference. We've we've talked about this West and I 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.240 covered Bears Patriots in January of X. By the way, 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.760 so we've got you beat. You guys are out all 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.520 night snowstorms back in the mid eighties. When we finish 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:19.560 Little Genesis, some snowstorms. All right, Today's show hit the news, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.400 what's going on around the league. We will also, as 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.680 I said, do the Super Bowl week over under. And 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:31.840 oh yeah, Kevin patra he is in Orlando. You might 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.960 remember last year they told Connor or hey, buddy, you're 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.359 not going to the super Bowl. We're sending to the 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.560 Pro Bowl, which led to to the song this song 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:48.520 A man's band got him mortgage drinks the brown stuff 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:54.120 that reads up this Bolige beating Manton my not State Ballet. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.479 Connor Orlando Today. Of course Kevin Patrick doesn't get his 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.160 own song, but he will be on today's show. We're 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.280 gonna see what's going on with k pat and he's 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.960 he drew the better straw here because he's going to 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:11.719 the super Bowl directly after this after. I don't think 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.200 Connor was super enthused about the idea that he was 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.320 going to the Pro Bowl instead of the super Bowl. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.640 That you wouldn't pick that combination. Yeah, but both. What 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.480 I like about Patra he's a grumbler. He's going to 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.240 be annoyed that he's gonna have to go to both 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.120 for a full week and all that. So we'll check 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.720 it with him. See what out of all your musical renditions, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.640 that one is by far my favorite? Oh thank you. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.160 I mean, it's a little I don't want to slight 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.520 Kim d J. But but the Connor Orlando today is 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.960 I don't know, it just strikes me. I really appreciate that. West. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.760 All right, let's get to it. Let's do some news. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.240 You're going to compete against me, you better be willing 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:53.680 to give up your life. That was the first episode 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.760 of the Tom versus Time Facebook series Handmade for You. Well, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.479 I'm gonna watch it because I'm interest that just like 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.599 behind the scenes of Tom Braid, but calmed down a 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.200 little bit with the histrionics of that, Like I'm willing 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.280 to give up my life? Yeah, I don't know about 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.200 the context of the but Jesus complex anyone, it's like, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.960 what are you really like bit much giving up? He 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.440 was saying. And I it's a smart point, saying basically, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.760 everything choose to, everything you choose to do is essentially 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.280 choosing not to do something else in vice versa. And 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.600 he's saying that, you know you gotta you gotta make choices. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.200 So what's he giving up? Though? Like kids? Life? But 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.080 he know he very quickly likes to show that he 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.360 spends all this time with his kids too. He's he's 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.040 he's he's not completely unbalanced where he's hidden alone. And 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.160 it's a little here's thing. It's a little condescending to 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.520 the other human beings that are pro football quarterbacks. And 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.880 we get it, you're the best, but it's basically putting 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.040 all of them you just don't really understand like I do. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.200 I'll even leave it just a quarterbacks, but sure the 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.880 rest of us. Very unselfish of him to sacrifice losing 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.240 football games. That's what he's cut out of. And I 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.120 but I don't doubt that he cuts out more of 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.040 his life than all of us or most NFL quarterbacks. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.920 And and is kind of a has a one dimensional 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.560 life on something. But totally and all in all seriousness, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.240 I'm asking you what is he really cutting out? He's 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.120 not cutting out a life of luxury where he has 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.320 everything he needs around because a lot of other people, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.480 how about how about someone working three jobs just to 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.240 put food on the table, they're not doing what they wanted? 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.080 Is something he's cut out of his life? The ability 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.520 to take like an hour just to do whatever you 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.640 want and do nothing. He's cut that out, just like 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.000 certain foods that he would enjoy, he's cut out. Yeah, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.920 I think I think a lot of it is like 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.640 the ability to have free time to use it instead 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.080 of obsessing over being the best football player you could 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.599 possibly be. He's like cutting out fallon SNL. But you 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.200 could dr all that. That's all. I don't know if 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.400 he's watching. It was a very boring first episode that 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.160 you can you can skip ahead to episode two. There 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.520 was not much and I love I'll watch, oh watch 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.800 it regardless. I'll definitely be there wasn't much to it. Uh. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.360 And here's something that's interesting. Cowboys VP Stephen Jones, son 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.600 of Gerald, has not been pulling any punches. Uh. In 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.840 the media when asked about Dez, he was on the 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.040 Hanging with the Boys podcast, which West, I know you 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.200 are a subscriber. It's on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.480 didn't know it was about the Cowboys. Hang with the Boys, bro. Uh. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.240 He had this to say when asked about Bryant's well 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.600 known sideline. Antics you know, the other thing that uh 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:35.000 we all see, it's certainly visible to anyone who uh 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.720 watches our games, watches our sideline is Dez is certainly 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.640 a fiery guy, plays with a lot of emotion both 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.760 on and off the field, and uh, sometimes that can 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.160 be a distraction. It can be a distraction for dads, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.400 it can be a distraction for other teammates. And we 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.079 just have to, uh, you know, really get our hands 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.040 around where when you put all the full body of 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.559 work together, where that's headed. And of course, uh, we 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.120 paid a lot of money. He knows that. He's aware 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.160 of it as anybody when he talked to Jerry and myself, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.760 and you know, he knows when you get paid that 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.840 kind of money, there's high expectations in terms of the productivity, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.800 as you mentioned, and so those are all things that 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.320 we have to look at as a team. As an 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.640 organization when we uh start to put our team together 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.800 for next year, Mark is des Dunne in Dallas. Well, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.319 I mean Dez Bryant made it very clear and probably 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.280 what we're emotional locker room comments late in the season 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.280 after the Cowboys season was basically could put say no, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.480 I'm not gonna take I'm great, I'm not gonna take 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.040 a pay cut. And he's got a sixteen point five 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.679 million dollar cap hit, And this to me feels a 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.280 little bit like setting the table to say that we 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.040 understand you aren't the des brian of old. By the way, 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.120 some of the baggage that comes with the des Briant 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.920 experience is still part of what we're dealing with. So 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.040 when we're gonna ask you to take a pay cut, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.360 it's not coming out of nowhere. At the same time, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.160 I don't know, Briana want to do it? I I 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.120 how do you pay this guy? The third highest among 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.920 wide receivers going into next season The last time he 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.600 had a thousand yards season. Peyton Manning and Colin Kaepernick 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:14.360 were good at football in a while, and and it's 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.440 it's kind of annoying because uh and sad because he 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.160 was so fun and explosive, and and he was such 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.960 he had such a great rapport with Tony Romo, and 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.800 it simply hasn't translated. I think it's been a combination 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.520 of two things. The chemistry is not the same with Romo, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.959 and then dess ability. Maybe through injuries and bumps and 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.880 bruises through the years, they caught up to him. We're 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:38.960 accepting you into the Scientists Society because a year ago, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.439 year a half ago, at this time, you went out 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.520 on a limb and said, I don't think death is 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.640 ever going to be the same after that good surgery. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.920 And I cast a sideways glancer to it you and like, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.640 where are you getting this is? Is this just zeuser 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.520 intuition here or what? But it turned out to be 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.160 dead on. So I'm the only one not in the 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:02.640 side it already end. I'm already in I don't know. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.679 I don't think Greg agrees with the idea. Come down 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.760 to the lab. It's been getting dusty. There hasn't been 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.880 a lot of work even getting done that there. We 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.720 need to catch up with the offseason coming. I like 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.040 it upstairs, like the kitchen that's right about the steps 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.280 that leads to the base and hanging out there, uh 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.440 in other news. So we'll see that's gonna be a 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.559 big story to tract. By the way, this is the 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.000 thing I can already see. It's already happening. Every time 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.720 Does Bryant speaks or anyone speaks about Dez Bryant, it 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.760 is a post on our website. This is the story 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.520 that no one can unhook themselves from. And this is 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.079 why I don't enjoy this Brian and leading total access. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.679 Some skill sets don't age well. His might be one 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.400 of those. But you know, part of those comments where 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.560 Steve Steven Jones would asked about it was, you know 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.160 what Jerry thinks of Jones. He loves him like a son. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.920 He really loves death. So it's almost like Stephen Jones 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.400 is separating him, Like, yeah, dad is just kind of 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.640 emotionally attached. I guess we're gonna have to we might 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.680 have to just keep paying him. Meanwhile, I looked quickly 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.800 at the cap numbers. You know, he's do sixteen and 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.559 a half million cap number, one of the highest cap 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.439 numbers next year eight point nine million for Tony Romo, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.560 so that that's still hurting them next year. Um, I 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.040 think Stephen and Gerard are playing a little good cop bad. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.200 I think so too, And I don't think Brian's back. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.000 I think they're there. I can see them draft. They're 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.720 they're building a little paper file here like we've been 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.440 whispering all off season. In other news, Yes, we will 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.200 be talking with Kevin Patra h. He spoke with leviyan Bell, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.280 who's at the Pro Bowl in Orlando, and uh, it's 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:34.400 pretty good talking about insider anyway. He told patra that 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.320 he is confident that a long term deal will get 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.720 done with the Steelers, and there is I guess there's 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.280 been reports that there's some some belief that all this 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.560 talk about he's oh, Leve I'm gonna sit out of here, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.880 and the Steelers aren't gonna blink that when this when 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.240 everything uh turns over and toward a new season, he'll 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.720 be under contract. Uh And that would probably make sense, right. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.160 I love the changing of the guard among NFL insiders. Here. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.600 You've got Peter King on Twitter throwing out speculation that 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.760 Leve Bell is gonna sign with the Raiders. Everybody's assuming 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.600 that because he missed the walkthrough, he's not gonna be 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.120 back with the Steelers. And there's Patrick with boots on 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:16.120 the the story. He's just changing the whole nature of 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.920 the story. Kevin Patras, although shaping it. You could read 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.080 between the lines and think maybe love Bells realizing, you know, 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.800 the Steelers aren't necessarily gonna give him everything that he wants, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.440 and he has to kind of throw it out there 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.920 that I want to be, I want to be. He's 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.920 manipulating Kevin Patra. I mean, no one can do that. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.640 That's true. Never happened, never will happen. Uh. In other news, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:43.040 Josh McCown was at NFL Network. Deaker, who's um a 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.360 fine woman behind the scenes here at the NFL Network, uh, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.120 contacted me on our instant messinging clients like you gotta 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:50.960 you gotta get in say hi to Josh McCown. You 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:56.440 gotta like I'm good, really, Tara Deaker, Tara our very own. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.760 Jeremy Bergman from downstairs interviewed him and my first question was, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.480 is the hair on Josh McCown. I feel like he 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.080 could have been, you know, the seventh or eighth person 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.160 and Madman if they were looking for new characters back 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.480 and then he has an old like feel to him. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.640 And Bergman said that you know, it was impressive. But 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.240 if I'm not mistaken, I thought he said he could 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.040 have used a little bit of jail, a little products, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.160 a little bit. Yes he does that, he does does 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.240 He was game, but you know he's showing up. Oh yeah, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.040 I mean his his jaw could be like the fifth 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.840 member of this podcast that things in the force of nature. Anyway, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.840 So McCown was on our flagship program in NFL Network, 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.640 Total Access, and uh, he wants to keep playing and 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.000 he'd like it to be with the Jets. Here's what 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.880 Josh had to say right now. That's how it's looking 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.720 at this time of the year. I go through the 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.240 conversations with my family and uh, and you know, talk 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.520 with him through that and pray through that, and but 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.200 you know where we're at right now. You know, I'm 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.960 feeling I want to play. So I'm looking forward to 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.320 the next few months seeing what happens, and uh, you 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.280 know I'll be ready to go. I'd be rise that 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.080 feeds back with the Jets the more I think about it, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.360 because I really think the Jets are gonna come out 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.200 of this draft and free agency with a new option 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.920 at quarterback and West. The other the other reason I 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.800 think that is McCown. He played so well before he 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 got hurt last year. Why does he want to be 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.520 somebody's just like mentor can't he get a job somewhere? No, 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.200 I think he's a bridge quarterback. I think everyone knows 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.240 he's a bridge quarterback, and nobody here's a market for 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.320 bridge quarterbacks. Yeah, but nobody's should trust Josh McCown to 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.200 play sixteen games. He plays with a reckless playing style. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.320 He's he's injured quite a bit, as Mark knows from 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.000 the Cleveland days. I see him as a guy who 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.640 makes a ton of sense for the Jets. They have 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.240 so much respect for him. And this is a draft 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.760 where a guy like Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen could 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.520 could definitely fall to number six. I don't know if 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.120 I'm Kirk Cousins, if I want to go to the 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.200 Jets or somewhere like that, even if I'm free, there 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.200 are gonna be a lot fewer bridge quarterback opportunities after 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.520 this draft, I think, And unless, unless some of these 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.480 teams look at these quarterbacks and say, and this is possible, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.720 not ready in year one, So you're gonna get the 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.160 Kirk Cousins. The Alex Smith. But the Jets, to me, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.640 I mean, if if they bring back m Account, it 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.760 better be because they've drafted Baker Mayfield as someone who 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.080 they want to rest for a year. We talked on 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.919 this yesterday. There this is these teams, the Jets, the Browns, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.720 all these QB needy teams, maybe even the Broncos. This 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.960 is your time. You don't have another You can't float 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.560 around with some fill in the blank veteran under center. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.439 I never put anything past the Jets in terms of 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.200 messing things up, but there seems to be no chance 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.760 they'll just be like, oh Josh, he's our quarterback next year. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.960 They kind of did that this year. I think they'll 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.720 they're gonna have a young guy or if the rest 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.000 of you know, it actually worked against them, if you 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.040 really want to keep it real, they almost wouldn't need 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.040 played and he played well enough to give them five 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.160 wins when they probably would have been better off winning 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.760 two or three. But he played well enough if if 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.440 like the team around him was great, like they could 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.440 have been a winning team. The keenomsque situation, maybe yeah, yeah, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.479 I think he played. He played that well and they 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.520 have We even mentioned that John Morton got fired. By 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.159 the way that we have not we didn't pick that 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.199 they That makes it less likely to me that they 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.280 would bring mccaun back. Now they promoted Jeremy bank Bates, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:07.560 who's been a quarter quarterback. But it is a changing 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.200 of the garden. It was a surprising fire. He used 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.439 thirty eight and I always seven. It's like, oh, you know, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.639 he's not a truth thirty eight because he sat on 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.959 the bench. He is because he's still He's as brittle 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.399 as they come. On some level. There's always something happening 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.280 to him. He's definitely a true thirty eight. We're talking 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.960 about guy who was coaching high school football five years ago. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.600 Speaking of case, Keenum had such a special year with 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.160 the Vikings. Everything fell apart for that team last Sunday, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.639 but still Keenum was one of the great stories of 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.959 the year. You would think that would lock him in 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:43.000 with the Vikings. But slow your roll, Mark, specifically stop 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.520 assuming that Mark stop being I will well, I you 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.320 know you guys are down in your the three of 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.000 you now are all down in the sign to lab 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:55.080 I'm upstairs throwing darts. So you know, when when Mike 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.760 Zimmer spoke in his end of year press conference. When 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.359 asked if Keenum deserved to be the teams signal caller 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.680 next year, his response was quote, we're going to work 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:10.360 through the process now. Yes, obvious coach speak, Greg, obvious 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.920 coach speak. But at the same time, don't you think 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.280 Case Kingdom maybe deserves a little bit more than coach 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.560 speaking that spot? What a year he yet? Yes, but 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.960 I'm not surprised based on Zimmer's public comments throughout the season, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:29.879 and I'm not surprised based on some not so you know, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.840 reading between the lines comments from insiders throughout the season 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.439 where they made it clear that Zimmer I don't know 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.560 if I really embraced the idea of Keenum as like 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.280 a long term quarterback, nor should he, right, But and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.359 he's started to back up his whole career, and just 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.960 because he's not one two b s, it was a 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.800 perfect storm for him with Pat Shermer's coordinator, great wide 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.880 receiver corps, solid offensive line, solid running game. Everything went 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.280 as perfectly as it could for Case Keendom. You can't 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.760 bet twenty million dollars a year on that happening. Again, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.359 I feel like bad teams and it's not to downplay 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.400 what Keenum did this season. You could overreact to one 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.720 good year on the cusp of a thirty year old, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.160 you know, quarterback campaign and massively overpay him, and then 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.520 he comes back down to earth with a new coordinator 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.800 and you're stuck with that contract. So we just spent 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.199 last week having the conversation that it's not fair to 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.359 call Case Keenum or put him in the category of 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.520 Nick Foles because Case Keenum has proven this year that 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.520 he's an actual player and a guy that's a major 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.560 reason for their success. I feel like after one loss 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.919 now we're willing to knock him back down. I I 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.160 just think it's because I think it's because we've seen 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.280 this before with a certain quarterback. It's it's in sharp 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.240 contrast to win. Alex Flynnigan from NFL Network interviewed John 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.120 Lynch yesterday about the idea of bringing back Jimmy Garoppolo, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.800 which is obviously going to happen. And John Lynch, you know, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.480