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Speaker 1: Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.

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Speaker 2: All Right, News round Up, Information Overload Hour, toll free

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Speaker 2: on number this Friday, eight hundred and nine point one

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Speaker 2: sean if you want to be a part of the program. So,

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Speaker 2: Louisiana Governor Jeff Flandry Wednesday signed a law requiring that

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Speaker 2: every classroom that receives public funding, including colleges and universities,

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Speaker 2: that they display a Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments.

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Speaker 2: A number of civil organizations, the ACLU, have vowed to

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Speaker 2: file a lawsuit to challenge the law. He very proudly

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Speaker 2: said he looks forward to the legal challenge, wants the

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Speaker 2: legal challenge, expects the legal challenge. And I guess what

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Speaker 2: would be in play is the Supreme Court ruling in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty that a Kentucky law requiring the Ten Commandments

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Speaker 2: be posted in public classrooms being unconstitutional. All right, this

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Speaker 2: is a different Supreme Court. Would they change their mind?

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Speaker 2: Would they change precedent? That's an issue for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people to discuss and debate. But anyway, here to

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Speaker 2: discuss and debate, we have Doug shown is back with

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Speaker 2: US lawyer political analyst Roger Severino, Vice president of Domestic

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Speaker 2: Policy at Heritage and Trump's former director of Office of

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Speaker 2: Civil Rights at the Health the Human Services. Thank you

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Speaker 2: both for being one of us. Roger, let's start with

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Speaker 2: you gutsy move on the part of the governor. He

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Speaker 2: knows there's going to be a legal challenge, he knows

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Speaker 2: that the argument is going to be separation at church

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Speaker 2: and state.

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Speaker 3: What's your reaction.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a new Supreme Court. This is not

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Speaker 4: the same Supreme Court of thirty years ago that was

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Speaker 4: much more hostile to religion. Here we had many wins

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Speaker 4: on religious exercise and on the astablishment clause. What religion

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Speaker 4: is being established by the Ten Commandments? Exactly? Is it Judaism?

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Speaker 4: Is it Christianity? And how is having something posted an

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Speaker 4: establishment when nobody's required to resign it to believe it.

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Speaker 4: There's no courage. And in schools across the country, we

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Speaker 4: have the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and people

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Speaker 4: stand up and say one nation under God. Now they're

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Speaker 4: not required to right, we have Supreme Court saying that

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Speaker 4: if you have a religious objection or conscientious objection, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to be forced to do that, but being

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Speaker 4: exposed to it, and we have in God, we trust

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Speaker 4: in our money. The Declaration of Independence speaks about the

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Speaker 4: Creator and Nature's God. So all these things can be posted,

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Speaker 4: and they are part of our history, part of our culture.

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Speaker 4: It is not an endorsement. So I think they're going

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Speaker 4: to be challenged by the less of course, because they'd

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Speaker 4: rather have, you know, LGBT flags being posted in our

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Speaker 4: schools as opposed to the Ten Commandments.

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Speaker 3: Let's get your take, Doug shown.

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Speaker 5: So I am probably a little older than everybody, and

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Speaker 5: I say that proudly because I grew up saying the

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Speaker 5: pledge of the Allegian, singing the national anthem, and being

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Speaker 5: committed to the values of the Ten Commandments. And I

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Speaker 5: didn't have been prouder to grow up in a country

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Speaker 5: like that. I don't see this as establishment of religion.

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Speaker 5: I see it as reaffirmation of our core values, both

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Speaker 5: as a nation and as a country. And I'm thrilled

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Speaker 5: by this, And as a Democrat, I wish my party

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Speaker 5: would embrace principles like this. This is not book burning

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Speaker 5: or book manning anything like this. This is posting values

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Speaker 5: that I think every decent human beings should be exposed to.

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Speaker 2: Is it fair to say and when some people say it,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get the woke mob all you worked

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Speaker 2: up that America was founded on Judeo Christian principles.

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Speaker 3: Is that a fair statement, Doug, of course it is.

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Speaker 5: It's what I was brought up on, what gave me

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Speaker 5: pride as a young boy and as a young man,

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Speaker 5: and gives me pride today. The Judeo Christian ethos is

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Speaker 5: what I am committed to, what I believe and seawan

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Speaker 5: Based on our conversations over the years, I know that's

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Speaker 5: how you've led your life, and it has meant a

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Speaker 5: hope and hope that there is a challenge in the

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court allows the Ten Commandments to be posted forever more.

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Speaker 2: Based on the Supreme Court precedent. You don't think that's

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court, but there always does, at least historically. There

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Speaker 2: does seem to have always been a lack of desire

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Speaker 2: would you agree, Roger?

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Speaker 4: The Coach Kennedy case, where was a coach actually prayed

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Speaker 4: That case said, we're getting rid of that old standard,

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Speaker 4: the endorsement, the mixing of religion and the secular sphere

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Speaker 4: in school. All those cases now have put into question

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Speaker 4: Couldn't there be legislative prayer? Can you open up a

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Speaker 4: history and tradition of our country. The Founders would have

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Speaker 4: no issue whatsoever with the Ten Commandments being posted in

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Speaker 4: the school, not at all. Look at the McGuffey readers

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Speaker 4: that they had for decades that had religious principles, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But they did have the Lord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments

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Speaker 3: Did they not prayer in school?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they absolutely did.

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Speaker 3: And we never evolved into a state run religion, did we.

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Speaker 4: No. Now there are some limits, and that really comes

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Speaker 4: down to corrosion. Right, there's no corresion going on here

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Speaker 4: if they simply post the Ten Commandments at the school,

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Speaker 4: just like posting a flag, right, it's laden with meeting

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Speaker 4: of course, and it's important, but it's historical, and the

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Speaker 4: values that are included in there aren't just religious right

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Speaker 4: dalshall not kill, Dawsha not both witness you want our

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Speaker 4: coveting no. And these were part of the Judeo Christian

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Speaker 4: founder would have no problem with it, I think the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court would be much more comfortable with it.

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Speaker 3: Now your take, Doug, do you agree with that legal analysis?

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Speaker 5: I do agree with the legal analysis. And having said

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Speaker 5: the pledge of allegiance, the Lord's player and the like,

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Speaker 5: I said this as a proud Jewish American who went

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Speaker 5: this as establishment of religion. I took it as a

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Speaker 5: reassertion and reaffirmation of our core values, which I think,

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Speaker 5: frankly today we need more than ever. So I hope

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Speaker 2: We certainly need eternal, eternal values, don't we. It seems

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Speaker 2: like we've we've come a long way in going in

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Speaker 2: the other direction. And I I'm not saying that I

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Speaker 2: would ever endorse or support in any way a state

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Speaker 2: eliminated from our school system. You know, what were the

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Speaker 2: Court decisions on prayer in school and and the Bible

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Speaker 2: reading actually took place in school, believe it or not. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, what were the top problems in our school system?

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Speaker 2: You know, talking in class, chewing gum and running in

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Speaker 2: you know, murder, violence, drug use. I mean, it's been

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Speaker 2: such a dramatic shift in the culture. You can't even

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Speaker 3: It's gotten so bad.

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Speaker 4: Roger, Yeah, our school systems are in shambles, right, And

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court has actually said now you can't discriminate

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Speaker 4: against religious schools because of their religious identity. That's another

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Speaker 4: change that's been welcome and good. There's been hostility towards

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Speaker 4: religious values, towards religious people, towards religious schools and that's

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Speaker 4: been part of unfortunate, a dark chapter of American history.

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Speaker 4: And I mean Catholic schools were targeted because they were

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Speaker 4: sixties on and now secularists have taken on that original

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Speaker 4: after school funding. This Supreme Court has rolled that back

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Speaker 4: and said you cannot discriminate against religious schools, religious institutions.

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Speaker 4: They should have a seat at the table like everybody else.

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Speaker 4: And in particularly they're really good at what they do.

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Speaker 4: They have excellent value formation. These are good things that

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Speaker 4: a secular minded government, even that from the left, should

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Speaker 4: be you. And this has such good effects on people

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Speaker 2: How do we evolve from talking in class and chewing

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Speaker 2: to the problems we face today.

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Speaker 3: Doug shown the.

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Speaker 5: Breakdown of discipline Sean the elimination in the inner city

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Speaker 5: of religious based educational like Catholic schools, the absence of

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Speaker 5: And it is to our detriment that that is the.

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Speaker 3: Case as a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: As you look at trump derangement syndrome, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: Joeli's Behart thinks for shows going to be canceled. AOC

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Speaker 5: I don't either, Sean. I'm a lonely man. And while.

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Speaker 2: You still have friends, Doug, and there's still an invitation,

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Speaker 2: you're always welcome to become a conservative or become a Republican.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, and I'm an assertive and aggressive moderate, and

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Speaker 5: I think there's plenty of room for us in American society.

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Speaker 5: But the way the left operates, if you do not

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Speaker 5: adhere to their tenants and principles, you're demonized. And that

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Speaker 5: to me, is again contrary to the values I grew

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Speaker 5: be teaching kids, and what really creates a corrosive society. Son,

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Speaker 2: All right, quick break more with our attorneys, Doug Shown

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Speaker 2: and Roger Severino. We'll get to your calls on the

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Speaker 6: All right, We.

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Speaker 2: Continue with Roger Severino and Doug Shown eight hundred nine

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Speaker 3: Shawn is on numbers. We continue this Friday.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this party has become so radicalized

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Speaker 2: that they can't see straight anymore. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any greater example of that than the weaponization of

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Speaker 2: dollar property value at eight million, that's perfectly okay, or

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Speaker 2: a novel political theory to go after Donald Trump for

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Speaker 2: an eight year old legal non disclosure agreement that was

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Speaker 2: that was put together by a lawyer and labeled as

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Speaker 2: a legal expense up charged to a federal elections crime,

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Speaker 2: and everybody thinking, Oh, he's a convicted felon in a

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Speaker 2: venue that hates Donald Trump, brought by a DA that

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Speaker 3: Your reaction, Roger, Well.

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Speaker 4: The weaponization of DOJ has reached absurd proportions. And the

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Speaker 4: main point is if a former president of the United

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Speaker 4: could happen to any of us. There's now a political

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Speaker 7: You said recently that you thought that you, as an

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Speaker 8: Maybe or you I think it's bad to have somebody saying,

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Speaker 9: Listen, if Donald Trump wins, we are looking at the

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Speaker 2: Maybe what they're really fearing is that which they have

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. Charlie kirk. He is the founder

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Speaker 2: of Turning Point USA as a brand new book out

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Speaker 2: right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke, Save the West,

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Speaker 2: Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com and bookstores around the country. Charlie,

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Speaker 2: great to have you back.

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Speaker 6: How you been sean great honor, Thanks so much, And

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Speaker 6: that was a great intro. And I share that concern.

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Speaker 6: I've not been around that long, only about twelve years

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Speaker 2: By the way, you're making me feel really old. Thanks

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Speaker 2: a lot, Charlie, thanks so much compliment.

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Speaker 6: I don't have the wisdom in years that you have,

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Speaker 6: so I'm saying, have a lot to learn. But I boy,

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Speaker 3: But I know something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, your star has really taken off. And the

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Speaker 6: I do, And you know we're working really hard on

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Speaker 6: I think that Susie Wiles and James Blair, they're doing

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Speaker 6: He's looked as the rebel, as the man who is

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen and sixteen when I supported President Trump,

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Speaker 2: I mean you had people like Glenn Beck and oh

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Speaker 2: so many, but Ben Shapiro by the way, people that

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Speaker 2: I like, I want to be very clear, but they

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Speaker 2: were beating the crap out of me on a daily

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Speaker 2: basis because I was supporting Trump because I knew we

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Speaker 2: could win, and his ideas were out of the box

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Speaker 2: and it was taking conservatism to a new level. And

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Speaker 2: I think I was proven right. I think his presidency

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Speaker 2: was extraordinarily successful. I think his plans now would be

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Speaker 2: similarly be extraordinarily successful. What is your reaction when I

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Speaker 2: played the tapes that I just played, or the predictions.

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Speaker 2: Matout thinks she'll be in a camp and an aoc

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Speaker 2: think she'll be in jail, and Joyless Bahart things she'll

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Speaker 2: lose her show, and Nicole Wallace thinks she may lose

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Speaker 2: her show. What's the reaction to all that? Because that

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Speaker 2: goes to the heart of your book about wokeness.

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Speaker 6: That's right, And first, Sean, did you deserve a con

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Speaker 6: of credit. You were really early, earlier than me with Trump,

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Speaker 6: by the way, and you were just so you saw

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Speaker 6: the whole thing. You saw the working class, the muscular class,

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Speaker 6: how Donald Trump could expand the tent.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Charlie, you know what it was,

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Speaker 2: the forgotten men and women in this country. And you

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Speaker 2: know what this election is about the same thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you saw the whole thing that the muscular class,

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Speaker 6: the forgotten men and woman, the plumber, the electrician, the

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Speaker 6: web the police officer, the firefighter, and you saw it.

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Speaker 6: And many of us were late to the later than

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Speaker 6: you to kind of see how Donald Trump could rebuild

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Speaker 6: that Reagan coalition. Look, my reaction first and foremost is

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Speaker 6: they think he's gonna win. They wouldn't be talking like

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Speaker 6: that if the inner chatter of the Democrat Party was

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Speaker 6: super confident in Joe Biden. Now I don't necessarily believe

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Speaker 6: that we're one hundred percent gonna win. I give us

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Speaker 6: a fifty to fifty shot. But the Democrats are talking

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Speaker 6: openly and they're almost lamenting, as if you know they're

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Speaker 6: going to be sent to the gulags. But number three,

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Speaker 6: I mean, just it is. It is extraordinary to hear

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Speaker 6: them say this. There's no basiss in it. By what

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Speaker 6: means would that actually happen? But are they terrified that

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Speaker 6: that there actually might be equal justice in this country

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Speaker 6: at some point? We do not want the weaponization of anything,

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Speaker 6: to be perfectly clear, But are they afraid that they

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Speaker 6: might have reached too far. Are they afraid that they

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Speaker 6: have gone and used the system of justice against media figures,

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Speaker 6: as you mentioned, as against people that might fight back

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Speaker 6: against the regime, And so I try not to take

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Speaker 6: it too seriously. These are very neurotic people. They spend

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Speaker 6: all day long worrying about Donald Trump, and they've made

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Speaker 6: their entire life obsessed about it. And I got to

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Speaker 6: be honest, Sean, you popularized that term Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 6: At first, I was like, Oh, that's a little cute.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I like it. What an accurate term.

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Speaker 6: It is a real clinical problem TDS. And these people

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Speaker 6: they've let it dominate their life, They've let it destroy

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Speaker 6: their relationships, and they're kind of like husks of their

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Speaker 6: former selves. I mean, Rachel Maddow's programmed this last week

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Speaker 6: was so sad to watch. I mean, she could she

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Speaker 6: be any more apocalyptic? It was like watching Greta Thunberg

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Speaker 6: on cable TV. She said, this is going to be

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Speaker 6: the end of politics as we know it. And we

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Speaker 6: talk about this in the book Right Wing Revolution, where

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Speaker 6: it is always the end of the world crisis for

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Speaker 6: the American left, And I think eventually that hysteria will

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Speaker 6: run out. I mean, growing up, we're always tall told

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Speaker 6: the story of the Boy who Cried Wolf. I think

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Speaker 6: the American people are no longer going to fall with

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Speaker 6: the mass hysteria, the madness, and they're going to want

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Speaker 6: to go back to stability, order and America's dominance in

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Speaker 6: the world. And I believe that is Donald Trum.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when I interviewed the President, I

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Speaker 2: asked him about the issue of the weaponization of our

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Speaker 2: justice system and whether or not he would ever want

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Speaker 2: to do to them, because that's what the left talks about,

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Speaker 2: that he'd be involved in retribution. And I realized that

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Speaker 2: a lot of people miss my point. They said, Hannity,

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Speaker 2: why are you pressing the president on this? This is

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Speaker 2: so wrong of you. They of course they should happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, conservatives have fidelity to our constitution. But

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Speaker 2: for example, that doesn't mean now that the very real

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Speaker 2: laptop that we were lied to about in the weeks

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Speaker 2: leading up to the twenty twenty election, well, now that

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Speaker 2: it's been authenticated and validated, which the FBI did in

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Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty. Putting that aside for a minute, Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Biden implicates his own father, doesn't he when he says

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Speaker 2: that half his income goes to Pops when they talk

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Speaker 2: about ten percent for the big guy, when he's asking

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Speaker 2: their financial guy, well, which account should we pay for

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Speaker 2: pops home repair? Which account should we take the money

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Speaker 2: out of? All implicating Joe Biden as being a beneficiary

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Speaker 2: of these foreign business deals. That's not lawfare, that's equal

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Speaker 2: justice and equal application of our laws. And what that

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Speaker 2: would be within the realm of having fidelity of the Constitution,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: And I think some people misunderstood me.

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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, spot on, and that's right. And if they

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Speaker 6: have now opened the precedent that former presidents are fair game,

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Speaker 6: so wouldn't be unprecedented. And let's be honest, the crimes

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Speaker 6: that the Bidens have engaged in is worse than anything

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump has ever been accused of. Let's just be

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Speaker 6: and I don't think Donald Trump has actually ever committed

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Speaker 6: a crime, especially in this New York nonsense. But what

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Speaker 6: the Bidens have done, and we see it in the laptop,

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Speaker 6: is they were selling out access to America and the

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Speaker 6: American federal government for foreign cash and then they lied

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Speaker 6: about it, and they represented foreign agencies and countries, and

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Speaker 6: you bring up a great point. I think there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of disgust and there is a pence up anger

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Speaker 6: in this country that will manifest in November of people

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Speaker 6: that did not get the full story of the twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty election. We must remember, according to Brent Bozell's great group,

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Speaker 6: the Media Research Center, that a twenty to twenty five

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Speaker 6: percent of all swing voters would have changed their vote

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Speaker 6: if they would have heard about the Biden laptop from Hell.

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Speaker 6: That means that if we would have been able to

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Speaker 6: get the laptop out back in October of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: and the New York Post didn't lose their Twitter account,

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Speaker 6: I lost my Twitter account. We had Twitter do mass censorship,

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Speaker 6: Facebook do mass censorship. We might not actually have President

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Speaker 6: Biden right now. And as things stand right now, we're

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Speaker 6: running against the same man and the same crime family.

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Speaker 6: And I think there's a lot of people that have

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Speaker 6: buyer's remorse and also are very upset that a bunch

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Speaker 6: of oligarchs in Silicon Valley decided that they were not

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Speaker 6: allowed to hear about this incredible well.

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Speaker 2: Remember they were pre bunked by the FBI. That was

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Speaker 2: meeting with them weekly.

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Speaker 4: Juell Ross.

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Speaker 6: That's right, jul Ross had standing room meetings with the FBI,

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Speaker 6: and it was very interesting. Not only was it Twitter,

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Speaker 6: but Mark Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan's programming August of

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two and said, oh yeah, bye away. The

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Speaker 6: FBI visited us many times in the summer of twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty and told us that something was coming and we

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Speaker 6: have to be on edge about it.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, we got one hundred and thirty six days until

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Speaker 2: election Day, eighty seven days till early voting starts in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: and six days until I think a three on one

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Speaker 2: debate that the whole country's going to watch.

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Speaker 3: We hope you'll come back again.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks Shan, You're the best.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn is a number if

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Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program, All right,

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Speaker 2: Mike co Coobe, Tammy, Bruce, Alena, how about Alan Dershwitz,

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Speaker 2: Ram Paul Tonight on the immigration disaster and a debate,

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Speaker 2: Rachel Kompos Stuffy and shown Mike Rowe a friend of ours.

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Speaker 2: All coming up nine Eastern Say DVR, Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 2: nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you tonight. Back here on Monday. Have a

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Speaker 3: great weekend. See that