1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains very light I don't even know 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: if they're really spoilers for many of our favorite movies 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: to show your families around the holidays. Class after we 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: get your movieque set up, I'll be interviewing the author 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: of the Legend Board series, Tracy Dion. Hello, my name 6 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: is Rosie Knights and I'm Joel Monique, and welcome back 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: to x ray Vision, the podcast where we dive deep 8 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: into your favorite shows, movies, and culture. We are here 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: at iHeart Podcast, where we'll be bringing you three episodes 10 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: a week and news on Saturdays, News on Saturday. 11 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: In today's episode, we're highlighting a few of our favorite 12 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: movies that aren't actually holiday movies, but they're still perfect 13 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: to put on with the whole family over the holiday season. 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: We'll be joined by super producer Aaron to go through 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: a few of our favorite movies to watch with the 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: family over the holiday season. 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: And now crowd onto the count. Get a cup of 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: sea or hot chocolate or even coffee depending what time 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: you're listening. Don't have coffee? I this offter like five 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: PM and let's pop in a few or do do 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: you know? 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: Live it up? 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you how to live all 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: your life. You know you can do it, guys, but 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: make sure to put some like sprinkles or a little marshmallow, 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: something fun in there for the as we pump cinnamon 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: a few of our favorite VHS's. Now, let us begin, Joe. 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Let's first, let's introduce super producer Aaron into the combo. 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: How's it going, bro, It's going great. I was actually 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: just sitting here wondering do I consume more or less 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: caffeine when I'm with my family over the holidays. I 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: think it's less, but I'm not positive because I go 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: through so much green tea every time I'm with my parents. Interesting, 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: I drink a lot on my own, but with them, 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: I drink. 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: A ton, drink a lot. 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 4: I do I have less caffeine when I'm there? And 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: I could see some people like pounding coffee the entire 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: time they with their family, So I don't know. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm new in the in the back to coffee life, 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna learn how it treats me this this season. 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: But my wonderful friends life, you know, to be consuming 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: so much care. We drink so much green tea, like 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: crazy amounts of green it's somebody I have like a 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Ramona Flowers style tea club. But anyway, we are here 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: today not to talk about my incredible tea collection though 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: if that is an episode anyone wants hit me up, 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: hit us up Tea with Xtra vision x R Tea. 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: But yes, some movies, guys, are Christmas movies. Movies about Christmas. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: A Miracle on the Firs Street the Night Before Christmas, 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: that's ad tocause, Root Off the Red Nose Reindeer, I'm 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: a Ranking and best Superstan Love Her the Family Stone. However, 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: thanks to my Emmy winning co host Jason Concepion, we 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: have a new idea. Outside of the canonized holiday movie, 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: there are cinematic classics four quadrant holiday picks that are, 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: while not holiday themed, either feature epic holiday scenes or 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: evoke the tones and themes or feelings or just vibes 58 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: that you want during the season. Last year we tried 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: to define a Thanksgiving movie. It was hilarious and there 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: were a lot more genre films that fit into the 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving space. There was a lot more comedy, horror of 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: horror Thankgiving. So this year, instead, we are here to 63 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: discuss the kind of movies we watch with our families 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: when we're trying to get away from the Christmasy of 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: it all. Though honestly, I have to say I'm big 66 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Christmas lover, so I'm rarely trying to escape. But let's 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: start with you, Aaron, when you're sitting at home drinking 68 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: many green teas with your family, what is the kind 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: of movie that you and your family enjoy to put 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: on when you're all gathering together for a holiday. 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's got to be a crowd pleaser 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: first and foremost. It has to be something that it's 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: not so much that any one person needs to love 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: this movie. It's that everyone needs to enjoy the movie. 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: So it's not it's not like anyone. You know, We're 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: not going to do anything too violent, not going to 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 4: do anything too risque, nothing too heavy. So different than 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: I'm not going to like sit my mom and dad 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 4: down and be like we're watching Schenectady in New York tonight, guys, 80 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: or we're watching the Fountain, Like that's not going to 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: be the thing that we're going to do night before 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: Christmas or Christmas Eve. I guess this is the same 83 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: day technically. Actually, I also think it needs to be 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: fast paced, because you don't want anyone to get bored. 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: My mom in particular, will fall asleep within thirty minutes 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: or something, So for us. 87 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: It's like gripping. It's a big deal. If she stays 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: awake the whole time, that means we did something right. 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: And I also think it needs to be it needs 91 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: to have a couple faces everyone will recognize. 92 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so it can't be interesting. 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm loving this, okay, Joel, what are your rules? 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 5: Our rules are, Uh, it must be appropriate. But this 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 5: is very suggestive because. 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Very violence place ever factored. 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: Into how appropriate a movie is for child. Ever. In 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: my family, UH watched. 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: So many shoot them up, blow up, dissecting horror movies 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: as a child, and so we love an action film. 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: We love we love blood and guts on Christmas. That's 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: not a problem for us. Uh, it should be relatively short. 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: There are games on Christmas, and we will not be 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: missing the sports games to accommodate the movie watching. And 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: therefore it needs to be a relatively tight film speed. 106 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: And then for me, I want a Christmasy field. Christmas 107 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: is my favorite time. It's like Halloween straight into Christmas. 108 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: I love this time. Of ye magical time, and so 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: I need an element of Christmas now. That does not 110 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: mean there needs to be a tree present opening scene. 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: There doesn't necessarily need to be snow. I need a 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: gathering of people who are grateful for one another. I 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: need a lovey, warm tone. I need that feeling of 114 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: like Christmas morning excitement to come through, and that can 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: either be from me watching the film or the characters 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: in the film. 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: So my rules are much. 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: More open and relax. But I do think that mostly 119 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: what I'm looking for in a non Christmas themed Christmas 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: movie is. 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 5: The warm feels. I like her it off. I gotta 122 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 5: be like, God, I love this movie. 123 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: I like that, and I like how quickly we're realizing 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: the specificity of families. That's the thing about the four quadrant, right, 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: is like, obviously, yes says some movies that maybe you, 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: like Joelle in My family was the same. You could 127 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: definitely watch like a die Hard or a violent movie, 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, without it being an issue when you were 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: a kid. But for some people that's not the case. 130 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: And like my niece and nephew, for example, if they 131 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: were around, I would definitely be thinking more of that. 132 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: PG. 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Thirteen, Space like for me, I think any movie that 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: gives me the magic of cinema and that kind of 135 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: feeling of like whoa, this is an event movie. This 136 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: feels magical, Like what is going to make us all 137 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: feel like? 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: Whoa? 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: Movies? 140 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of lucky too, because the English tradition 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: around Christmas is essentially like there's really great public TV programming, 142 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: so you buy it so good. Yeah, you buy your 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: copy of the Radio Times which has Center on the cover, 144 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: and you never buy it the rest of the year, 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: and it's your TV guide and it will tell you 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: all the different stuff and you circle around the pictures. So, 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: for example, I remember a really great Christmas maybe we 148 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: must be like ten eleven years ago now, but where 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: my nephew was really young and it was maybe he 150 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: was like one or two and it was Chris and 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: they'd got on the rights to show Frozen for the 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: first time on the BBC. Now have I seen Frozen 153 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: too many times? 154 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: Now? Yes? 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Is that going to be my pick if I go 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: to Probably not, But I think that is a great, speedy, 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: interesting four quadrant, like if you're it's here and it's 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Christmas because it's cold, you know, so I like, I 159 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: think the balance is really important. And wow, I'm just 160 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: so excited to you guys picks. So let's go to 161 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: a advertisement break, and when we're back we will be 162 00:08:34,280 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: talking about our picks. I'm with that, Joelle. Why don't 163 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: why don't you start us off with some of your 164 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: pitching us some some full quadru. 165 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: SERVI assume it is my most cultural take both. Have 166 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: you got a little snippy with me looking. 167 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: At your list? 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Controversial? 169 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: Controversial takes, a cultural take. 170 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'll get it too, cultural takes later. 171 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 172 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: But you guys said there was a film on here 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: that is technically a Christmas movie and therefore does not fit. 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: Now there are technically two technically Christmas movies on here. 175 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: I say both are not actually Christmas movies. I'll start 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: with the one that you guys are talking about, which 177 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: is Home Alone. 178 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: Now I do believe. 179 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: It's a Christmas movie, Christmas movie. 180 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, here's why it's not a Christmas movie. 181 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: This is actually a horror film that just takes place 182 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: at Christmas. 183 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: Okay, we take. 184 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 5: Okay, that does not make it a Christmas movie. 185 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: Hear me out here? 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, yeah, that's my favorite part about World War 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: two films actually is that they take place in World 188 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: War Two but are about something else. 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: Find a movie that uses World War Two as a 190 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: backdrop but is not yet a World War two film. 191 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: If the movie takes place in nineteen forty three, doesn't 192 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: automatically make it in a World. 193 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: War two Ya is set the TV show during World 194 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: War Two. I would not call it a World War 195 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: two film, So you are winning me of it. Make 196 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: your argument, Joel, tell us why it's not Christmas movie, 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: because that's hilarious. 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: It's actually a horror film. It neither celebrates Christmas nor 199 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: critiques it, and therefore I don't think it deserves to 200 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: fit into the Christmas theme. There are Christmas elements. You'll 201 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: see a nice tree, you'll see the family leaving for 202 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: the holiday, But then the horror show of a child 203 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: left behind where no one in this extremely large family 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: recognizes as their youngest is missing. That would never happen too. 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Then he rereaks havoc in an almost maniacal way. 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: So level two guys, who are they criminals? 207 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: Yes, but I assume because it's the nineties and the 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: economy is booming, they're really struggling and they need this money. 209 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: These people are clearly hoarding. I don't know what the 210 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: dad does for a living. I don't, Okay, So I 211 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: think this is a social pathic kid destroys, poured down 212 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: on his luck. 213 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: Guys, this is a horror movie and it's a great one, 214 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: and it. 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: Does give you the warm and fuzzies afterwards, because you're like, Wow, 216 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: that kid really defended himself. 217 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: Fuck his whole family forever. I would never forgive them. Honestly, 218 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 5: as a Christmas movie, we don't get any present opening scenes. 219 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: We don't. 220 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because his parents left him. The only reason you're. 221 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Kind of selling me all this, like I do. Do 222 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's silly to say it's not a Christmas movie? 223 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: But do I think that you are arguing why it 225 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: is a good full court It is more of like 226 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: a thriller. It's a kid's thriller. It is kind of 227 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: a horror for kids. Kids think it's really funny, Adults 228 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: are entertained. Classic cost Also, you raise an important question, 229 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Kevin's that clearly some kind of money wandering going on. 230 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: That just how do they live in that house? That's crazy, Aaron. 231 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: But I will say I think My rule when I 232 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: came into this was that the movie poster should not 233 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: have any Christmas lights or Christmas trees on it. And 234 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: by that metric home Alone face yes, because the posters off. 235 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Christmas is I like this metric. We love a weird 236 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: metric in the discord tell us if that one is 237 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: a new rule up there with big monster movie, small 238 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: science fiction. So, Aaron, what is your pick? Your first pick? 239 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: I will do a similar sort of child left without 240 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: their family, but this is a slightly different continent. Instead 241 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: of happening in Home Alone, takes place outside of New York. 242 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: I think, yeah. 243 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what it is, but 244 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: it's filmed Chicago. 245 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this takes place in London, and that's Paton 246 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: the original Paddington. I think is such a beautiful movie 247 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: and a great one for the entire family. Like you get, 248 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: like within those first few minutes, you get everything. You 249 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: get a little bit of humor, you get some fun 250 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: bear animation, you get like the playful nature of the 251 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: movie as a whole, and then like you have a 252 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: really good balance throughout of heartfelt emotional scenes and then 253 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: very playful things, very humorous interactions with Paddington like it 254 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 4: is almost a NonStop banger of like scene set piece 255 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: scene set piece that are so good, whether it's like 256 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: him using the bathroom for the first time and flooding it, 257 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: the escalator where he's carrying the dog, the scene at 258 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: the geologists and sage guilt sandwich. 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: In the thing. 260 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: Yes, the. 261 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: Kimon is having so much fun and throughout that entire movie, 262 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: and I think there's a little bit of something for 263 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: everyone plus a little bonus. 264 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 6: Uh. 265 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: If your family, depending on your family's political leanings, you watch, 266 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: you pop this film in part way through you just 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: you just like casually drop, you know. In the Ukrainian dub, 268 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: Paddington's actually voiced spy he was. 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I love this movie. Great at movie. Also very 270 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: Christmas themed because I do think it thematically is about 271 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: like a person being born in a different country than 272 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: they were usually like a person being finding a new life. 273 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: It's very Jesus coded. But Paddington is is Paddington. I'm 274 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: gonna go for a movie that I think is completely 275 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of U two's kind of argument, which 276 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna go for the Greta Gerwig Little Women movie, 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: which really blew my mind because I think that has 278 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: It has the beautiful cinematography, incredible cast, it has Emma Watson, 279 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: it has people who people are going to go, oh 280 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: my god. I recognize it's got Sorcarona. It's got Timmy, 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Timmy c Timmy Shallamelo, Timmy tim It's got Bob Odenkirk. 282 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: So you got all those big banger kind of film 283 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: stars who people go oh. I recognize that it works 284 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: as both second screen watching if people are so inclined, 285 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: which many people are at Christmas, because the vibes are 286 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: just immaculate. But if you get sucked into it, it 287 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: is the kind of movie that makes you believe in 288 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: movie making and the magic of movie making. And it 289 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: does have a secret Christmas scene, but that is only 290 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: one part of the movie, which takes place over many years. 291 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: So I think that this is like you get a 292 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: little bit of that Christmas y vibe, you get the 293 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: making popcorn chains, and you get the very famous Bob 294 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Odenkirk ah My Little Women line. Just a magnificent film. 295 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: I think I had never really gotte choice. I'd not 296 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: never really gotten into the Little Women kind of stuff 297 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: is not as big in the UK Luisa may Alcott 298 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: is not as huge of a cultural Shenanigans. 299 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: We except all of your British writers, please take our 300 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: most beloved American ones into your heart. 301 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So, like, the movie is interesting and she was 302 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: cool and her dad actually like was an abolitionist and stuff, 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: so very interesting real history as well. Another great thing 304 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: to talk about Christmas. So yeah, those are our. 305 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: Three beautiful gowns. 306 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: Great Christmas scenes from eighteen hundred really appreciated Christmas in 307 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: a way I don't think we could hope to now, 308 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: and I love seeing it recreated. And also it's got 309 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: the great Christmas like reoccurring theme of like I gave 310 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: away something really precious to me, so you could have 311 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: something precious and you're just like, oh your heart. 312 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: It's very Christmas. 313 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: Great movie. 314 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: It's an absolute delight and it will give you totally 315 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: the warmth at the end. 316 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: Betise I, you're a feminist, You're like, wow, this is ending 317 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: way to go. 318 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: You're and a writer and or be both guys. 319 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: But also I would say'd be wonderful. 320 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm sensing a theme here, which is I feel like 321 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: all of the movies that we're picking are like very 322 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: colorful and like eye catching and kind of sumptuous, So 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe that's one. Okay, I'm gonna start us off on 324 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: our next round with this is just a classic goat. 325 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: These are These are kind of classic go tos for me. 326 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: But like a Jurassic Park an Indiana Jones, I feel 327 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: like it Spielberg glue because film Amblin. Those always remind 328 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: me like if you put on Jurassic Park and there 329 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: are kids there who haven't seen it or adults who 330 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: haven't seen it for a long time, they will be 331 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: enticed by the incredible effects, the wonderful cast, and that's 332 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: a great offbeat cast. Sam Neil, Jeff Goldberns, Laura Dern again, 333 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: maybe she's the four quadrant Holiday movie queen because this 334 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: is the second movie. 335 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: You know you had to have Laura Dern in them. 336 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: No, but like I just think for me marriage Story, 337 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's like these a good just her scenes 338 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: in Marriage Story. 339 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely wish the. 340 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Super cut, but yeah, I think like to me, the 341 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: Amblin era of Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones pure adventure doesn't 342 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: have that kind of sad, somber quality of et which 343 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: would always upset me as a kid. These are rip 344 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: roaring Adventures. You know the end of ET where he 345 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: ends up in the hospital and Elliot's in there and 346 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: ET's in the very sad for me as a kid, 347 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: always stress me out. So I like your kind of 348 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: more pulpy. I will highly recer first Indiana Jones movie, 349 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: Great Killing, Nazi's Third Indiana Jones movie really fun, weird, 350 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: extremely good. Last Crusade is extremely good for Christmas because's 351 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: all based around Grail Law so very much in Christmas 352 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: mythology and dad. So yeah, I'm going to specify Jurassic 353 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Clark or Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Aaron, what 354 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: is your second throw out? A couple more picks for. 355 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: Us because of Jurassic Park. 356 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: That's I mean, maybe in my top three favorite movies 357 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 4: of all time, and it's not three or two, so 358 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: that would always be a choice. But that made me 359 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: think of something more recent actually came out this year 360 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: that I think I'm going to actually bring for Christmas 361 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: this year to watch. I think, which would be f one, 362 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: which I think is like okay, and I think it's 363 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: good because that's gonna be one that maybe people are 364 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 4: not excited about, like I think my mom would be like, 365 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: I'm not really interested in a car movie, whereas my dad, 366 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: who loves cars, will be super into it. I know 367 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: my wife is she likes, she tolerates sports movies. She'll 368 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 4: probably watch it. But I think it's a great movie. 369 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: And I think it's the kind of thing that like 370 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 4: everyone is gonna everyone's gonna relate to a character in there. 371 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: They're going to root for a character in there. And 372 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: again you recognize a couple of people in there. You 373 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: know some of these actors, and you're gonna root for them. 374 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: So I think that's gonna be my choice this year 375 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 4: for Christmas. 376 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: All so good. I would say, good dad pick, great 377 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: cinematography pick, but also as well a great the kind 378 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: of conversation, the kind of movie that's going to be 379 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: a conversation starter for like the rest of the evening too, 380 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Like you could talk about so many choices they made, 381 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: whether it's stylistically or narratively, Like I think that's a 382 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: great movie to chop up over dinner. So that's a 383 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: really good one, Joelle, what are your lost Rex? And why? 384 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be Best Man on Holiday, But it's 385 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: been video because you can't have lights on the poster, 386 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: even though it is the most essential watching at this time, 387 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: and I don't I haven't a hall over whether it's 388 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: actually Christmas movie, but I will believe that. To give 389 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: you guys a couple of great recommendations, Okay, One comes 390 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: from our friend of the pod, Danny Fernandez. Her Christmas 391 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: movie is Fools Russian. It's it absolutely unhinged, insane. 392 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Rock, crazy choice, and I love it. 393 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: She loves Fools Russian because it's got some higak dancing 394 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: in the kitchen, and who isn't about that? 395 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 5: So this is. 396 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: Matthew Perry in really a prime Matthew Perry era. He's 397 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: in I'm Friends at this point, shows booming. He looks 398 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: good and healthy, and they're very cute together. Surprisingly, I 399 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: was like, so, I'm a highakan Matthew Perry. I don't 400 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: know if I'm buying this couple in the first time 401 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: I saw it, but by the end, I was convinced 402 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: it's very sweet and cute. So I'll I'll give her 403 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: Fools Russian because we watch it every Christmas. Now, I'm 404 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: also gonna throw in a little Princess A problematic fave. 405 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: Problematic favor, which just trying to highlight it is problematic, and. 406 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm extremely problematic colonial. 407 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: White people play the Indian deities. I'm so sorry. You 408 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: can fast forward that to the part where they get right, 409 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: which is a black girl has treated just the same 410 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: as a white girl, and it makes my little heart 411 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: as a child very happy. 412 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: It is a movie, and it is it's. 413 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: Biofals of corayon. If you want your happy worn things, 414 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: especially if you can't watch those Witch movies anymore, but 415 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: his was your favorite, you can replace it with this 416 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: and a Little Princess. 417 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 5: It's really delightful. 418 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: Uh And finally my newest entry a film I've become 419 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: so obsessed with. Have I seen the car scene over 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: fifty times? I have The Batman. Now listen, hear me 421 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 2: out inside a Batman movie that is actually a Christmas movie. 422 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: There is and you can also watch that, but we're 423 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: talking about movies that are not Christmas movies. And The 424 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: Batman takes place at sunset and it ends at sunrise, 425 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: which means you're getting a full scope of like the 426 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: feels of like it. 427 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: Was a dark night but then morning came, which is 428 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: very Christmas. 429 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: If you ask me, You've got good ra scenes you've 430 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: got people, you've got action. Grandma will like it because 431 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: she's like, I know Batman, you can't go wrong. 432 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: It's a delightful four quadrant thrill ride. I would say, 433 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 5: watch Batman. 434 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: That's a long movie, but you know what. 435 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I love that because I do think that. To me, 436 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: it's like you watch The Lord of the Rings. 437 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 5: You know. 438 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: That's why we didn't include, say, guys, because you guys 439 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: already pick it ring. 440 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: A lot of Thanksgiving Thanksgiving episode. It's so good and 441 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: there's a ton of really great recommendations there from last year. 442 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: I was gonna pick Lord of the Rings because I 443 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: watch it both at. 444 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Chriss, but I was like, it's all our 445 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Liss, let's pick me. 446 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: And also, you know what, people know that, but I 447 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: think the length is a good one. I will say, guys, 448 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: if you're watching The Batman with your family, just like 449 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: know their tolerance for like scariness because it is really good, 450 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: but the opening cam freak people out. The yeah we're 451 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: not flitching it also, like you know, my family absolutely 452 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: would love that. Also, I did recommend Ja Jurassic Park, 453 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: graand Mangets like eating off the toilet by a dinosaur. 454 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: I would say, he's a lawyer. 455 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Oh wow, families story about Thank you Aaron and Joel 456 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: for joining me to discuss some non traditional holiday movies. 457 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: And up next Legend Born author Tracy Dion. Tracy, thank 458 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on next revision. 459 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. Absolutely. 460 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Of course, I first came across your work via Legend Born, 461 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: which is such a just wonderful, brilliant fantasy kind of 462 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: escape that also tackles so much intrinsic, incredible kind of 463 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: conversation and complexity that often is not explored in fantasy. 464 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: So could you talk a lot little bit about Legend 465 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: Born and how you came to that idea and your 466 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: kind of history with mythology and authory and law and 467 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: all those things that you built in. 468 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: Absolutely, so, Legend Born came to me, well, the character Brie, 469 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: I would say, the main character came to me within 470 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: a few days of losing my own mother. She came 471 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 6: in like sort of deep acute grief, and I think 472 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 6: a lot of stories are really about grief and ultimate ways. 473 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 6: And Bree stayed with me when I was unable to 474 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 6: write from that place, when I was working and I 475 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: was creating, and I've always been a storyteller, and the 476 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: image of a girl who could go at a quest 477 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 6: and understand what happened to her own mother, what happened 478 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 6: to her grandmother, and be able to reach back in 479 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 6: time and understand sort of like deep lore and history 480 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 6: of her own creation stuck with me. And then I 481 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 6: think it was nine ten years later when I actually 482 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 6: put pen to paper and said, let me tell her story, 483 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: and I realized I wanted to draw on other type, 484 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 6: some big mythic stories. I wanted to give her the 485 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 6: sort of grand epic tail treatment, and I'd never seen 486 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: that be done for a black teenage girl character. I 487 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 6: really wanted it to be contemporary, and I wanted to 488 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 6: be fantastical, and so I did what turns out a 489 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 6: lot of writers have done over the fifteen hundred years, 490 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 6: which is pull on King Arthur and Arthuriana and be 491 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 6: able to open these tools like a drawer and figure 492 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: out how to tell a story about an epic tale 493 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 6: that's power and love and loss and betrayal. So I'm 494 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 6: in a good company in terms of someone who uses 495 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: Arthur as in those tales, as a tool. And that's 496 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: where Lundenbourne came from in twenty twenty, it came out, 497 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 6: and it's been a wild ride ever since. 498 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: I was going to say, what was it like for 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: you to tell a story like that that did have 500 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: such a personal impetus, but was also this kind of broad, 501 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: brilliant reimagining of arthury and law, which is essentially archetypical. So, 502 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: like you said, do you so many people have done it? 503 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: How did it feel to balance something that's so personal 504 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: with this epic scope and then have people respond to 505 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: it so well and get to continue that story and 506 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: kind of broaden it out. 507 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 6: It's really surreal, you know. I think that I, in 508 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 6: a lot of ways, this was my own type of therapy, 509 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 6: right Like, I was working through my own inner sort 510 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 6: of process, and it took a long time to figure 511 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: out how I wanted to do that. But I'm a creator, 512 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 6: I'm a fantasy writer. I know I'm a fantasy you know, fangirl. 513 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 6: I was raised by a fangirl. I knew that I 514 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 6: was always going to process it through story, having other 515 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 6: people jump in and sort of recognize the authenticity and 516 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 6: even tell their own grief stories back. Over the last 517 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 6: five years at events and signing lines has been really magical. 518 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: I don't take it for granted that people see themselves 519 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 6: in bri and in fact, the pre Hive as they 520 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 6: call themselves. The fandom has really taken off in a 521 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 6: way that feels like it's its own living being, and 522 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: I'm so a part of the ride. It's it's it's 523 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 6: pretty amazing. I'm not gonna lie as a fan, as 524 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 6: a longtime fangirl, it's great. 525 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen any pre cosplay? 526 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 6: Absolutely yes, yes, I screamed, not like not unlike yourself, 527 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 6: I screamed immediately, like So twenty twenty one y'all fest 528 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: and Charleston was my first in person event because legendourn 529 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: came out in fall of twenty twenty, so a lot 530 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 6: of things were shut down. We didn't get to go 531 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: places and see people for a while. And a person 532 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: showed up with a like beautiful hair, full sort of 533 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 6: outfit a sword in the signing line, and I thought, 534 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 6: that's the coolest thing ever. And then I realized that 535 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 6: that was my character. 536 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: Coming to talk to me. 537 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: I have pictures of me just totally geeking out, like 538 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: I you know, I love science fiction, fantacy conventions, I 539 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 6: love cosplay. So the idea that someone was showing up 540 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: as my character is wild, and then it happened again 541 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 6: and again and again. I've seen several hospitals. I've seen 542 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 6: people with tattoos. Even from the book It's Wild. 543 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you were raised by a fan. What 544 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: was your mom's biggest fandom? What were the fandoms that 545 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: she shared with you? 546 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 6: Huge Star Trek the Next Generation. You know, I definitely 547 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 6: remember watching a lot of that with her as a kiddo. 548 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 6: If I ever got in trouble, I could only watch 549 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 6: the News or Star Trek the Next Generation. So these 550 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 6: were her iconic form of punishments, like, Okay, you're in trouble, 551 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 6: we can't watch whatever you want, but you can always 552 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: watch Star Trek. So she loved data. But you know, 553 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 6: I think her first fandom was honestly Uncanny X Men, 554 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: because she had such a strong affinity for Beast in 555 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 6: that character. Loved Hank McCoy, loved Bones another McCoy doctor 556 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: from Star Trek. She just loved all of that, and 557 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 6: it really brought a lot of that home for me. 558 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: I think I stole Don off of her bookshelf when 559 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 6: I was eleven, Wow, and she said, Okay, good luck, 560 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 6: have fun to see you On the other side. 561 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: She said, see you in three months. Yeah, thank good luck. 562 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah wow. 563 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: I love that so much. And you are also a 564 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: passionate fan, so I'm really excited as this is a 565 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: stocking stuffer episode. What are some of the books you're 566 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: most excited for people to gift their loved ones this 567 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: holiday season? 568 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 6: Well, so, my favorite winter holiday season recommendation is The 569 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: Darkest Rising by Susan Cooper. It's nineteen seventy three contemporary 570 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 6: fantasy book that is set in midwinter, set in the 571 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: solstice in that time period, and the main character, Will 572 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: is an eleven year old boy who wakes up and 573 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 6: realizes he's part of an ancient, greater magical force of 574 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 6: good out to fight the dark. And the reason why 575 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 6: I love recommending this book, aside from it being personally, 576 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 6: you know, a big contributor to my own sort of 577 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: since of whimsy and fantasy and mixing the darkness of 578 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 6: real life with fantastical elements, is that it feels like 579 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: a nerdy kid's book. It feels like when you go 580 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: home for the holidays, if you are around family and 581 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: there are just so many people and you know, I 582 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: think us geeks understand this. When you get home and 583 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 6: you're off of school, you kind of halfway wonder why 584 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 6: am I not just able to read this whole time? 585 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 6: Why do I need to be out in the like 586 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: main living space talking to people. I kind of want 587 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 6: to retreat, And so it speaks to me. This book 588 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 6: speaks to the geeks and the nerds and the kids 589 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: who wanted to literally just stay in their bedroom and 590 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 6: curl up and read instead of hanging out with family. 591 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: They wanted to come out and get food and scamper 592 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 6: into the shadows back and go back to your video 593 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 6: game or your comic book. I just love those. I 594 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: really think that this book is about that. It's about 595 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 6: the magic that you make when you're on your own 596 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 6: in a big family setting, and when you need to 597 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 6: step away and when there's the quiet and you want 598 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 6: to dream big. 599 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Wow. I love that. That's a perfect recommendation. I will 600 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: be getting it from the library immediately. I have not 601 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: read that, and I'm currently working on a novel that 602 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: is based in British folklore. So this was an incredible 603 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: recommendation just for me, So thank you. 604 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely nice. What's next for me? So for me? I 605 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: have the fortune of being able to share that there's 606 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 6: a Legend Born Collector's edition coming. You spoke about British folklore, 607 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 6: and of course, like Darkest Rising is one of those 608 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 6: like true folklore stories. It's you know, got whales in 609 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: the background. It's got you know, the River Thames and 610 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 6: wild magic and the wild hunt in the background. And 611 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: one of the things that I loved about that being 612 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 6: part of my origin for Legend Born and my thinking 613 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 6: of it as a story is to bring that sort 614 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 6: of like old ancient feeling to Legend Born, but this 615 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 6: time in the actual exterior of the book. So the 616 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 6: Legendmore Collector's edition is like, it's got like faux leather, 617 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 6: like Rosie I just said, make it a medieval book. 618 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 6: I wanted to feel like you found it in like 619 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 6: the archives or the stacks and the book library. I 620 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 6: wanted it to feel again that idea of like breathe 621 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: being larger than life, breatheing epic. I wanted that to 622 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 6: feel like that when you hold this book. So I'm 623 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 6: so excited. We were able to work with someone who 624 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: is an artist who did like sort of wood cut 625 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 6: lino cut wow drawings of scenes and characters and symbols 626 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 6: from the book to give it that sity of medieval 627 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: you know idea. I wanted it sort of like an 628 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 6: illuminated manuscript almost on the inside. So I'm I'm very 629 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 6: excited about this edition because I feel like it's the 630 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 6: spirit of legend born in a physical package like above 631 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 6: and beyond what you might get and like a paperback 632 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 6: or something. 633 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Sounds like a great gift for a kid who wants 634 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: to feel like they're reading their own never Ending Story. 635 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is I always wanted to find 636 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: a book that looks like it was a magical book. 637 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that your book that is magical in 638 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: content now has that version irl that somebody can discover. 639 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 6: Please tell me you've seen the first edition of The 640 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 6: Never Ending Story. 641 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: I have seen. 642 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: It is a dream, a dream come up and that 643 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I once spent many months looking for in charity shops 644 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: as if that would happen. 645 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 6: Same the same, So I have one. It's one of 646 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 6: my most prized possessions. 647 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 648 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 6: The first edition for anyone who's listening of The Never 649 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 6: Ending Story has like a beautiful, like similar linocut illuminated 650 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 6: manuscript lettering at the beginning of each chapter for whether 651 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 6: or not you're in the real world or the fantastic world, 652 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 6: and little tidbit about me just to show you how 653 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 6: deep this goes. I am not new to this. True 654 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 6: to this is that my my only tattoo is the 655 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 6: Oran from The never No Way. 656 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was meant to be. I'm so glad 657 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: that I saw that connection. There was a tattoo. 658 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, now and the one from the movie, Like 659 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 6: I wanted that sort of like complicated, you know. I 660 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 6: really feel like The Never Ending Story is such an 661 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 6: origin like film and experience for so many kids. Again, 662 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 6: actually we're kind of coming full circle, right because Bastion 663 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 6: goes off to the attic and is by himself reading, 664 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 6: and every person I know is a big reader wanted 665 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 6: to just take their stories away and hide somewhere, you know, 666 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 6: in a snowy day or a stormy day, And so 667 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 6: I would actually put an Everning Story on the list. 668 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 6: It's not a holiday film, but it has that magical quality, right. 669 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: Definitely, and maybeek is incredible. I feel like a lot 670 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: of people haven't read it, and it's such a joyous 671 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: thing to read as well experience in the movie. 672 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's got stuff. I mean, there's stuff in that book. 673 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 6: There are images in that book that I just think 674 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 6: we just don't get anymore in kids films. This is 675 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 6: the era of you know, The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth, 676 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 6: which I would also call a holiday films, like I 677 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 6: don't know why do you know why? 678 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: I do. We actually had an episode recently that we recorded, 679 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: which I'm not sure will be out or not by 680 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: the time this one is out, but it was basically 681 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: holiday movies that don't feature a holiday, but then you 682 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: still feel like a holiday movies. I think never Ending 683 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Story is like a proto Lord of the Rings. You know, 684 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: everyone watches Lord of the Rings in the holiday because 685 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: it gives them that feeling never any story returned to Oz. 686 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: Those were mine when I was a kid, you know, 687 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: a little bit darker, a little bit stranger, but still 688 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: they felt like when you're watching them, like, oh, this 689 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: is an escape, this is a vacation, this is holiday. 690 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: I think it's the escapism and the magic that you 691 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of tie to them that gives them that feeling. 692 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 6: I also think there's something about the practical effects, yes, 693 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 6: that feel quite grounded, like even though we're escaping it 694 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 6: really feels transportative, like we're not in a CGI sort 695 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 6: of world. We're in a puppets and practical effects and 696 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 6: textures worlds. You know, I think that for a lot 697 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 6: of folks who grew up on Labyrinth, the idea of 698 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 6: getting taken away by the Goblin King and then oops, 699 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 6: maybe you're having this wonderful dance sequence with him. 700 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh sounds like yeah, it's like is it? 701 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? 702 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: It seems like maybe it's not so bad after all. 703 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean this isn't you know, like my kid 704 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 6: brother is missing, but you know, he gets he's fine. 705 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, they seem pretty trill. They're just doing 706 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: a good doing a good little dance. Yeah, Tracy, thank 707 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: you so much. This was a total joy. I appreciate 708 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: you guys. You will not hear because of the incredible 709 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: editing skills of the super producers, but this there was 710 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: some technical issues. So thank you for sticking by and 711 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: having this convot Tracy, because it was a total joy. 712 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: And if you've ever got any updates on any potential 713 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: legend born adaptations or anything else you're just excited about 714 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: and enjoying, please come back and join us, because it 715 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: was wonderful. 716 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: To have you. 717 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, yes, no, if you ever are, you probably already 718 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 6: have an episode that's about all of the fantasy movies 719 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 6: that formed the psyche of kids. 720 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: To do it, we had we had a rule. We 721 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: had a great episode that we did that was a site. 722 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: It was like what makes a good sci fi? And 723 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: what are the best sci fis that aren't the ones 724 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: you're already thinking of Star Wars, Star Trek. That was 725 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fun and we've had a dream of 726 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: doing a fantasy one. So we'll definitely call you in 727 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: because making those rules of what makes it are so funny, 728 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: and I know you'd bringing the you'd be bringing the 729 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: textual understanding. 730 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, And please tell me that Flash Gordon 731 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 6: was on that list somewhere that. 732 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: Actually it was. You would not believe it. I'll get 733 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: Cassie to send you the email. 734 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 6: Okay, please do. I would love to know Flash like 735 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 6: the Adventures of Buccer Bonds, like I want to feel 736 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 6: like I feel like I can go there. 737 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: I love this. 738 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: Well. 739 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much, Tracy, and have a wonderful 740 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: holiday season. 741 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: Yes, take care, Rosie. 742 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 5: Thank you. 743 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Tracy Dion for joining me to talk 744 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: Fantasy and thanks again to Joelle and Aaron for sharing 745 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: some favorite family movies for this holiday season. 746 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 3: Have a great holidays. 747 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 4: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young and 748 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: Rosie Night and is a production of iHeart Podcast. 749 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman. 750 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: Our supervising producer is Abuza Part. 751 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dian Jhonson and Fay Wack. 752 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 4: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 753 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 754 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and 755 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: Heidi our discord moderator.