WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Moving Day 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.400 Following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:16.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Are you ready for 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.880 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.239 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.240 It's time for the Break on the Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:34.320 Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:41.480 and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, welcome back to Cowboys Break 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.720 presented by Miller Lite, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:50.200 I'm here joined by Meek and Brian. Derek is out 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.360 for today, but we finally got stuff to talk about 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:58.360 on the show. A lot of recent news that have happened. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.120 Yesterday was a pretty busy day for the Cowboys, and 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.520 I think maybe the best way to start the show 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.600 is just kind of go through the timeline of events. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.400 We'll start off with the guys that the guy the 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.520 Cowboys have signed, and then we'll get into the guys 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.560 that have kind of parted ways or the reports out 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.880 there that they're moving on and going to other teams. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:25.280 So let's start off with mister Donovan Wilson, big big 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.000 signing for the Cowboys. They decided to offer him a 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.560 three year deal and he's staying here in Dallas. Uh, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.760 what do you guys feel about this move? I like it. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.000 I think it's a real good move for them and 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.080 for him and also more than anything, you know, he's 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.039 a guy that gets around the football. I tweeted that 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.319 yesterday and not many guys in the league. Can you 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.000 do what he does seventy five tackles, plus he had 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.400 a hundred tackles. But like you know, he gets interceptions, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.320 he gets some sacks, he gets forced fumbles, fumble recoveries. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.480 But what I love the most about him is that 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.120 he brings the swag, brings the toughness. He's not afraid 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.600 of anybody. Gets a few penalties now and then, but 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.600 for the most part, he plays with a really aggressive 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.520 style and I think the Cowboys need that, so I 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.600 think that that's a big part to happen back. Yeah, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.960 this was one of those when Nick and I were 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.120 like at the Super Bowl and then the combine and 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.679 then you were kind of getting the feeling that there 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:22.080 really was a pretty wide gap between what the Cowboys 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.280 were going to be willing to offer and then what 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.520 you know, what what Wilson wanted. And I know the 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.760 more that that you would kind of work through to 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.680 this day of yesterday, well of yesterday, and then getting 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.760 it done. You just kept hearing about Mike McCarthy, Dan Quinn. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.440 You know, they're like, we need Donovan Wilson back. That 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.880 was one of those you know, when they when they 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.440 go back, when they when they started to really evaluate 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.880 where they needed to be for twenty twenty three, the 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.919 first name you kept hearing was Donovan Wilson. Donovan Wilson. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.399 And you know, I really do believe that there was 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.040 that gap there and the Cowboys, Adam Pacific and those 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.359 guys did a really good job of taking the coach's 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.400 wishes and pushing that thing as far as they could 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.760 push it to get this thing done. You know, you know, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.560 we give I mean, I give the Cowboys a lot 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:23.880 of grief about some of the offseason the signings or 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.600 lack of and all that, and I always like to 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.200 sign their own guys, but this was one of those 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.880 signings where I kind of went, yeah, this made a 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.120 lot of sense, and I think it got really pushed 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.960 through because the staff really wanted him and they you know, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.080 the vision for the player. And again I give the 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.080 Cap guys a lot of credit for getting this thing 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.440 done the way they did because it was it was 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.640 a it was a pretty significant gap between them and 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.800 the Cowboys when this thing first started. Yeah, when we 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.560 talked about it last week, we were mentioning that we 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.119 all would like to have him back, but I'm sure 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.920 very difficult a guy like him to probably get the 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.400 money that he would be making. Do we have the 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.320 amount of kind of how much love was three years, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.800 twenty four million dollars? Yeah, I don't, And I think 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.880 it's a two year deal that is really what it is. Yeah, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.080 it can get up to twenty four, but I think 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.760 a lot of things have to happen. He has to make, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.479 like career numbers and interceptions and all that kind of stuff. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.880 I think it's really more of a seven year deal, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.560 but a seven year per million per year. But you know, 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.240 you look at the guy was at Bates from it. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.440 They got a big deal. It's like fourteen million or 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.279 something like that. And that's what you're saying. I think 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.839 that that Wilson's you know, camp thought that maybe you know, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.039 he was going to be in that range, and you know, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.080 he had a chance. I think he was an alternate 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:44.760 for a Pro Bowl. He was up there. You know, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.839 he had a chance to to to go to that 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.200 and that probably would have helped his cause for the negotiation. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.359 But you know, a good player brings a lot to 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.960 the you know, defense and toughness, and I think I 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.440 think they really needed to have that three headed monster 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.440 back there at safety. Um, I think everyone's happy here 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.880 would this side. I think that was the one. Well, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.000 that was the one. I mean, it was a day 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:12.279 for me of surprises. Yesterday was a day of surprises. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.000 When they you know they get that done, you're going 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.640 to talk about the vander esh I mean, talking to 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.560 people around the league, I kind of felt like that 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.080 was a fifty fifty proposition at best. They were there 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.279 was a couple of teams involved, Chargers, the Steelers were involved. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.440 So again, you know, the front office give them credit. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.760 We usually say they sit on their hands and they 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.760 don't try. And you know they you know, Vanderesh was 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.920 a very important player to him last year, Wilson was 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.200 an important player. And then you know the trade that 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.159 they were able to make to a guy that could 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.680 still play at a very high level. I said, they 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.000 had a pretty damn good day, you know, trying to 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.479 help their football team. Well, let's go ahead and jump 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.520 into the vander Esh deal. Pretty interesting how everything has 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.440 turned out for him. He gets drafted by the Cowboys, 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.799 has a very nice rookie season, then every year because 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:07.160 of the injuries, he kind of goes down as far 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.120 as performance. Then he gets to the fifth year option 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.039 that they don't give to him, he kind of goes 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.599 and test the market. Turns out he ends up back 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.960 here with the Cowboys on a one year deal, and 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.520 last year he did a really really good job, and 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.360 now he's offered a two year deal to stay here 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.800 in Dallas. Another surprise. You talk about surprises. That was 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.159 surprising to me, but I think he did deserve it, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.520 And just want to hear your thoughts on kind of 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.280 like what he brings back to the Cowboys and this 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.320 whole deal, just having him here again with this defense. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.080 I think that he's um. He thought he was going 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.680 to get a lot more money for the second year 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:52.919 in a row. I think he thought he was going 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.039 to get more money. So I don't know how happy 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.599 he really is with the deal. I mean, yes, he's 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.599 happy to be back with the cow Boys and all that, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.200 but I think, you know, there's just to disconnect on 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.800 what maybe they think that his market is and then 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.920 what the Cowboys like and other teams. I think other 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.800 teams honestly are afraid of the injury that that's that's 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.320 exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. And 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.760 pre draft, there's teams that failed him on the physical 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.960 you know, I mean there were before he was draft, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.320 before he was even drafted, And so what happens is 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.240 teams have this, Okay, these are the problems that we 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.680 run into that won't even let us draft this player. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.840 So there's teams out there that won't even touch him 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.679 even though he's played and played at a high level. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.239 There's teams that but there's also the same teams will say, well, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.800 missus games. He's missing games. Oh what is it. Oh 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.520 well it's a shoulder. Oh it's a stinger. Oh it's 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.920 a neck. Oh it's this. See, So that that's their justification, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.040 you know why they don't. And you know, for the Cowboys, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.760 they understand what he is, they understand his his uh, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.840 you know, the great things he can do. They also 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.240 can live with the fact that they're going to deal 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.880 with potentially the stingers, the neck, the back and other 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.640 things the shoulders and things that you know, could set 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.440 him back two or three games. Yeah, with with Micah 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.360 Parson's playing the way he does and where he does, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:22.440 and he's all over the place, and you need Layton 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.880 vander As. You need that stability at inside linebacker. Um. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.960 You know, they don't have a lot of linebackers on 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.160 this roster. Um. I was looking at that before he signed. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.240 I mean, they only had like four guys and one 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.360 of them is really a pass usher in Michael Parsons. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.079 With Brill Cox, Demon Clark and Devin Harper, I mean, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.000 that's a young, inexperienced linebacker. So I think it was 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.480 important to get Layton in there. And and you know, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.160 and if he's a little vill salty about the deal, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.280 which you know, and he always carries a chip on 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.839 his shoulder, that's that's great. He plays well like that. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.240 So at least he was smiling on the picture that 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.360 was high. He had a nice smile. Yeah. Well, he 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.640 I think he had a couple of options, you know, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.760 from talking to people around the league. He had a 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.480 couple of options, I believe, and the Cowboys were you know, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.559 I mean, he's he's played here, you know he has familiarity, 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 you know, with Dan Quinn, you know, with what's going 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.360 on with the defense. He's he's a big part of 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.079 how well they played defense last year. And Nick's absolutely right. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.880 You just I know from a fact we're about to 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.880 do the draft show after our show here today. This 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.400 is not a very deep draft when it comes to linebackers. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.760 You know, the Cowboys, you know, giving the extra year, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.520 you know, giving maybe a little bit more to get 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.280 him to sign back here as a big play on 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.120 their part. That's reading what's going on in the draft. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.960 You know that, hey, we might not know. They've got 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.800 young guys that are really I mean, we've talked about 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.959 Damon Clark, We've talked about Jabril Cox, We've these guys 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:57.199 are yet to show what they what they're capable of doing. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.200 I think there's been some flashes, but I don't don't 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.440 know if necessarily it's the point where you're saying, Okay, 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.880 let's throw him out there and see what happens. I mean, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.719 if you watch, if you watch Clark play without Vanderish, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.400 he looked like a totally different player, and not in 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.760 a good way. He looked like a guy that was 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.319 wait a minute. You're not telling me, Anthony Barr, what 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.160 this formation is gonna do. You know, you're not telling 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.560 me where to go. You're not you know, late vandersh 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.559 was the one guy in that defense that everybody looked 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.160 up to, and you know, and and and kind of that, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.559 if you want to use the old phrase, the glue 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.800 of what was holding that thing together. Now real quick, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.400 you mentioned Nike the whole like maybe he could possibly 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.720 be a little salty with the deal. We don't know that, right, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.800 but I was gonna say, what do you think is 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.280 the difference, uh this year compared to last year where 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.439 he kind of did go into the market. The Francency 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.120 officially stars this afternoon at three pm. Of course, legal 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.880 tampering has been happening since Monday. What do you think 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.679 is the difference this year versus kind of last year 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.640 where they did decide to kind of test the water. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.480 Last year was a little unique and I'm not sure 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.640 exactly what happened, but from what I was told is 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.000 that there was one team that was really sold on 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.360 him all the way and that where he was going 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.079 there and then at the last second, the chair kind 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.400 of got pulled out from under him and they signed 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.800 another player and then that he was kind of left 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.520 holding the bag and so he had to come back 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.600 to the Cowboys. And you know, anyway, and he had 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.320 a really good season this year. I don't think it 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.520 happened like that. I think that they thought the market 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.000 would be a little higher. And you know, it starts, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.120 it's supposed to start Monday, with all the discussions, I'm 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.640 sure it starts back at the combine and after it 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.199 starts earlier than that, and those agents talking to him, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.400 so they kind of know what the number is and 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.000 so you know, I think that. But also, like Brian says, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.000 I think he sees the fit here too. Yeah, he 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.559 sees the fit with Quinn. And he can play with 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.120 Michael Parsons. You can play with you know, now you 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.240 can play with the secondary. That's pretty damn good. I 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.800 mean the secondary is now starting to get I mean 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.280 starting to look pretty good. And this is before the draft. Yeah. Well, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.559 then yesterday they made a trade with the Colds. They 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.400 traded a fifth round pick in exchange for cornerback stuff 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.160 on Gilmore. He's a guy that has experienced a lot 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:31.080 of experience, a veteran guy that and we were talking 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.000 about this Brian before the break, you know the picture 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.600 that was taken with Michael Parsons and Trevon Diggs that 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.040 they're just kind of happy and one in the jersey 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.360 and all that. And now they have him as a teammate. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.720 What does this type of addition mean for the Catboys? 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.080 Let Brian start with them because you studied them a 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.040 lot even when the Colts. Yeah, this is something this 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.920 guy can still play. And you know when you start 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.480 to talk about he could play inside, he could play outside. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.600 He can match up with the tight ends. That's something 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.040 that he's you know, big wide receivers, smaller wide receivers, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.200 that kind of doesn't matter. This guy, you know, he's 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.640 not going to get h He's not going to get 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.600 taken advantage of. Sometimes you see these corners and they 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.920 can't play a certain they can't play a certain side, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.040 they can't play against certain players. They you know, when 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.240 you put him against quick guys, they kind of lose 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.360 their their way that this guy is not that way. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.560 I mean, he wants to play off, he wants to 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.200 break on the ball. That's kind of his game. Had 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.439 an interception last year in the Dallas game, had five 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.160 targets thrown at him too caught. You know, he's like 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.600 a fifty percent when it comes to targets to catch 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.720 a ratio, he's you know, one of the top if 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.560 you're believing the metrics and those things. He's one of 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.760 the top cornerbacks the league. I think the top six 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.319 when it comes to you know, being able to play 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.200 pass defense. But he's got really good instincts. His ball 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.440 skills have always been excellent with him. He's a physical 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.160 cover style of a corner. And you know that's something 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.800 when you start to talk about maybe Digs on the 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.720 other side, Gilmore on the other and then they could 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.560 play a little bit more of that that man coverage, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.720 get up on somebody, bring Parsons, bring pressure. Now play 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.720 on the outside and be this is this is a big, 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.160 big upgrade for the Dallas Cowboys. And this was one 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.720 of those that we thought the upgrade was going to 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.440 come through the draft. And it's still might it's still 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.040 might even and you know, you look at you know, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.320 you look at you know what that they've been able 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.200 to do. And I think this is the end of 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.280 you know of an Anthony Brown. Guys like that, you know, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.440 we'll see what happens with Jordan Lewis because Deron Bland 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.280 has shown that he could play inside, he could play outside. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.040 So right now, is Nick mentioned this is a group 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.560 that can match up with you, lock you down, and 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.880 then be able to sick that pass rush on him 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.320 that they want to do. You know what I like 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.120 about you know that that photo that you're talking about 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.080 with with Gilmore and um, you know Parsons and Diggs, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.320 is that you know, here here are young guys that 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.160 they know who the good player is. You know, they 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.880 have ultimate respect by that, And I would imagine Michael 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.440 Parsons is not letting the jersey go to just anybody 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.320 that's asking for it. You know, he needs to be 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.640 you know, to get some value for it. And they 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.600 obviously see that. So you know, a lot of high 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.800 high respect there. And I'll say this to anyone that says, well, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.800 if he was so good, why would he give a 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.160 fifth round pick? I do remember the Raiders trading a 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.480 fourth round pick for Randy Moss to New England and 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.320 he still had plenty of the years left. He was 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.960 still setting records in New England. So sometimes just getting 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.320 him off your your the books and off you know, payroll, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.080 and and they're just ready to move on and also 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.760 helped the player, and you just get what you're gonna 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.000 get for me. He's probably gonna cut him in. Yeah, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.160 new coaching staff in you know, same general manager, new 0:15:55.200 --> 0:16:00.400 coaching staff in in Uh, they're Innapolis in Indiapolis. So yeah, 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.360 but yeah, I mean it's a compensatory five. It's not. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.720 I mean, you're not giving up the twenty sixth pick 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.800 of the draft to go get a guy. You're giving 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.200 up a pick that you got for losing somebody at 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.560 Cedric Wilson in free agency or somebody like that. That's 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.920 what you're getting. You're giving up to go get a 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.680 guy that could still play at a high level. I 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.240 was talking to my guys, my gang is seven around 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920 the league. They're super positive. Like Dallas went and made 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.040 a nice trade here. This is one of those that 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.000 kind of when you look at the salary, the level 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.880 of play, the experience, I've heard nothing but good things about. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.840 I guarantee you the friendship that Jerry Jones and Bill 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.520 Belichick have. Jerry Jones probably before this trade was made, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.600 got on the phone with Bill Belichick and was asking 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.720 about Stefan Gilmour and asking Bill, give me some trades, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.800 give me some ideas, give me some thoughts, Like Jerry, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.120 this guy could still play. This is what he can do. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.240 And everybody tells you this guy is really really good 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.880 in the locker room too. He's a leader, he's a 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.680 guy that people like we say, look up to. So 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.720 this this is one of those deals. Fifth round pick, sure, great, whatever, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.919 you know. That's hey, you got a guy that can 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.959 legitimately still play. You didn't get a broken football player here, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.240 you got a rule football play. And he's proven that 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.160 he can adapt to different styles, different schemes. I mean, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.680 he's played for this will be his fifth team. He's 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.040 made the Pro Bowl for three different teams, the Bills, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.000 the Patriots in Carolina. Last year, he didn't make the 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.240 Pro Bowl for Indianapolis, played all sixteen games. But he's 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.359 bounced around. But it seems like he bounced around and 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.679 has it in a cornerback. You can do that. You 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.159 cover your guy, you know, you kind of know what 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.480 the scheme is for the most part. You can adapt. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.120 And Dion Sanders bounced around. Yeah, and it's good. Yeah, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.040 he was really good. Dallas, San Francisco Baltimore. Finally have 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.920 a show title. Now, I could just title the show 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.960 right now. Brought us comparison to Dion Sanders. You can 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.000 just do that. You know what we need to go 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.320 to break. But man, I'm getting freaking excited and pump 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.879 about the defense already. And I have my little like 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.760 you know, the little level and the little angel on 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.400 each side of one's telling me stop at Amber, chill out. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.440 The other one is like, I'm freaking pumped like the 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.600 fact that it feels right now to me that you're 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:16.840 actually building on the defense, like you're building up rather 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.560 than losing people. You still got dan Quinn, you're signing 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.080 guys to add on or keep hearing Dallas and then 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.960 bringing a guy like that too. 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