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Speaker 1: Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, welcome back to Cowboys Break

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Speaker 1: I'm here joined by Meek and Brian. Derek is out

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Speaker 1: for today, but we finally got stuff to talk about

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Speaker 1: on the show. A lot of recent news that have happened.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was a pretty busy day for the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the best way to start the show

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Speaker 1: is just kind of go through the timeline of events.

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Speaker 1: We'll start off with the guys that the guy the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have signed, and then we'll get into the guys

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Speaker 1: that have kind of parted ways or the reports out

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Speaker 1: there that they're moving on and going to other teams.

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Speaker 1: So let's start off with mister Donovan Wilson, big big

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Speaker 1: signing for the Cowboys. They decided to offer him a

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Speaker 1: three year deal and he's staying here in Dallas. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys feel about this move? I like it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real good move for them and

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Speaker 1: for him and also more than anything, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that gets around the football. I tweeted that

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Speaker 1: yesterday and not many guys in the league. Can you

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Speaker 1: do what he does seventy five tackles, plus he had

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Speaker 1: But what I love the most about him is that

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Speaker 1: for the most part, he plays with a really aggressive

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Speaker 1: think that that's a big part to happen back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this day of yesterday, well of yesterday, and then getting

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Speaker 1: it done. You just kept hearing about Mike McCarthy, Dan Quinn.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're like, we need Donovan Wilson back. That

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Speaker 1: And you know, I really do believe that there was

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Speaker 1: we give I mean, I give the Cowboys a lot

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Speaker 1: When they you know they get that done, you're going

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Speaker 1: he just really was. I think it's a great opportunity

429
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: for him to go to a new staff there and

430
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: Houston try and kind of figure some things out there

431
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: with you know, with them, maybe maybe he gets a

432
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: little bit more of a run to be that guy.

433
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Early in the season, I felt like he got some

434
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: opportunities here. He just really couldn't It couldn't materialize like

435
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: he wanted. But you know, Houston will give him an opportunity.

436
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, if he can fit in with a new

437
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: quarterback down there be a good target and maybe get

438
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: him more a longer term, more security deal in the future.

439
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: I haven't gone to look at this, but I mean

440
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: the seventh round of the twenty seventeen draft, I would

441
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: imagine Noah Brown's probably played more games than anyone else

442
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: and that picked in the seventh round. Maybe I'm missing

443
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, but but I mean, needless to say,

444
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: he's had a great career based off of where and

445
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: he still is. It's not over, I mean, but but

446
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: but you got to give him credit. He stays in there,

447
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: keeps his mouth shut. He just goes up there. He

448
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: works and and you know, he's been kind of a

449
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: big bodied receiver, played special teams. They've moved him some

450
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: to tight end, you know, as a big blocker, but

451
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's just a big wide receiver

452
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: that I thought, if if he's gonna be your fifth

453
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: guy that can play special teams, it's a steal. But

454
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, you can't can't keep doing that. So yeah,

455
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: he wants to be probably a three, maybe a two.

456
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: And Houston, you know, they're not a good football team.

457
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: You know that almost beat the Cowboys, but they're almost there.

458
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: They weren't a good team last year. There's there's room

459
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: for for you know, younger plays to go and succeed,

460
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll have a chance to do that. But

461
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: I gotta give him credit though. He stayed in here

462
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: a lot longer than I thought he would, and he

463
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: had his moments, but yeah, he's he's not going to

464
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: be your your two, number two receiver, and you know,

465
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: at least not for the Cowboy Yeah. Yeah, No, he

466
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: had a good run here with the Cowboys for a while.

467
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: Uh my guy, look Giffer that I had so much

468
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: hope for him just since the moment he got here

469
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Unfortunately, never really became to me personally

470
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: that type of linebacker I wanted him to be. But

471
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: he's now going to the Titans on a two year deal. Yeah.

472
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: I think John fossil special teams coach, probably not happy

473
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: about that one, because you know, he was a core

474
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: special teams guy, led the team in tackles last year. Again,

475
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: this is one of those opportunities that he's probably going

476
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: to get the chance to play some defense, I would

477
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: imagine with the contract um that he got, and and

478
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe as a nickel and special teams um.

479
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think I think he was one

480
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: of those players just like Connor McGovern, which maybe we'll

481
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: get to but but just you want them. Here's your

482
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: number to keep them and then when they get more

483
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: than that, you just had to say, all right, good

484
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: luck to you. Do you see this as a loss

485
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys brain, Yeah, I think this is one

486
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: of those that they felt like that that he could

487
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: have developed into the ability to play more, you know,

488
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and that's something that that when they fossil, you know,

489
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: he was a core special teams guy. You started to

490
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: see him work into some games too, and so it

491
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: was like maybe three four snaps maybe a series and

492
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: then you know, but he you know the guy, I

493
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: mean he if you remember he really burst on the

494
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: scene and like preseason and got hurt with the San

495
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: Francisco preseason game and it hurt his knee, and but

496
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: he was he was one of those guys that kept

497
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: showing up when you know his rookie year and you're like, man,

498
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: they might have got somebody here. And but the special

499
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: team stuff was really really good. Hetty smart knows where

500
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: to be, can finish as a tackler. You know, that's

501
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: one of those ones that you know, I hope they

502
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: don't look back and go, man, we had a vision

503
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: for the player. We just didn't complete the mission. He

504
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: goes on and has a decent, decent career, you know,

505
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: with somebody else by the way, nick, uh, Chris Carson

506
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: in the seventh round of that draft is the only

507
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: one that has more catches than Noah Brown, the running

508
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: back round back Seattle, Seattle. Yeah, he had one hundred

509
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: and seven and Noah has eighty two. So the only

510
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: one that's good. Um. Interesting, you know, don't look now,

511
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: but I think both of the both of the players

512
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: that lined up at fullback for the Cowboys last year,

513
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: other than I guess the tight end McKellen are gone

514
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: because you know, Gifford did it like for one game yea,

515
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: and McGovern has done it as well. Yeah you know,

516
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: and uh and of course will govern high market for

517
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: these fullback I guess yeah, if you if you show

518
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: you can you can block for even a snap or two. Well,

519
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: McGovern has headed to the Bills. Another guy where another

520
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: guy where. It was one of those things like, yeah,

521
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: we would love to keep you, but but you know,

522
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that Buffalo just woke up Monday

523
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: morning and decided they wanted to give him that. I

524
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: think he was targeted by them for a long time.

525
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: And that's that's one thing that I think he has

526
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: to always be pointed out. McGovern is a good example

527
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: for this to me is that when draft experts, and

528
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Brian is one of them, and and free agent experts,

529
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: when they do their list of players and all that,

530
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: you're you're doing it based off of fit and scheme

531
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: for most teams. But but but sometimes a team can

532
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: look at and go, you know what, that's the guy

533
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: I want. I can I have a vision for the

534
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: player that's a little bit different. We see it in

535
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: the draft. You guys will be surprised on draft day

536
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: that somebody you have as a fourth or fifth round

537
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: guy goes in the second or third because that team

538
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: just wants him and they can be right or wrong.

539
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: But but so therefore, I don't think this was a

540
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: case with McGovern where I don't think McGovern was on

541
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: anybody's top one hundred free agent less. But the Bills

542
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: are like, this is the guy we want, and this

543
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: is where we see him, and you know, and that's

544
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: why these scouting departments do what they do. Yeah, I

545
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: think the thing with McGovern was with the Cowboys, we

546
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: really don't know, well, maybe you guys know. I know,

547
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: me being at one oh five three the fan trying

548
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out things on the radio side

549
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: of this whole thing with Tyron Smith. Yeah, you know,

550
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out is this sincere about

551
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith? Because you know, it's is there a cap savings?

552
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: Are they going to really bring it back? Are they

553
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: going to move Tyler Smith? They'll really the left guard?

554
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's so much that you really don't

555
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: know right now. I mean, you know, I was kind

556
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: of sitting there when with Jerry and Steven and then

557
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: we're talking at the Senior Bowl and they were like,

558
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: now we're bringing Zeke back, We're bringing Tyron Smith back.

559
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, going, Okay, Well, they haven't had their

560
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: meeting yet. They haven't had that meeting where they kind

561
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: of go, Okay, this is where we are with the cap,

562
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: this is where we are with playing. You know, we'll

563
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: see what happens with Elliott. I'm sure we'll get into

564
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: that a little bit. But the thing about it is

565
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: with Tyron Smith is in fact, is he going to

566
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: come back and play left tackle? You know? Is he

567
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: going to go? And then are they going to play Tyler?

568
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Me personally, I'd just like to see Tyler Smith keep

569
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: playing left tackle. You know, I felt like watching Tyron

570
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Smith play that everything was gonna be okay on that

571
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: right side with him, felt like, oh, high level football,

572
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith is. You know, he made the switch. It

573
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: wasn't the smoothest, it wasn't the most comfortable, and at

574
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: times they struggled with him over there, you know, And

575
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: that's a Hall of Fame player. But he moved from

576
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the left side to the right side. Are they going

577
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: to now move him back over to his natural side

578
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: and move Tyler Smith inside? Which I think Tyler Smith,

579
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you invested really the whole season in him

580
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: playing left tackle. Yeah, I would like to see him

581
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: in one spot and just that me too, me too,

582
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I'm I'm kind of like,

583
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where because and I'm

584
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: used to saying all this because of them just letting

585
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: McGovern go. You know, if if if Tyrn Smith was gone,

586
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: there might have been more of a fight for McGovern

587
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: to keep him at that left guard spot. Yeah. You

588
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: know one thing that I was told um yesterday that

589
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about when he McGovern first left.

590
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: But um, he's very forgettable sometimes, But I think there's

591
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: people in the building that believe that Matt Farniak is

592
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: just as good, if not with the highest ceiling. The

593
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: McGovern he played that he played the Tampa game. If

594
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: you remember the opening game where that Tampa or the

595
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: game here in Dallas, he McGovern gets hurt and they

596
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: immediately put Farniac in there and they play. You know

597
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: that that was their guy. So yeah, to me, Farniac,

598
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: I see kind of just a center body. That's what

599
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: I see him as. I don't see him as with

600
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: you do you remember us coming back here a game

601
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: talking and giving him much. I mean he stepped in

602
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: there and did fine because they were blocking Vita Vea

603
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: and guys like that. I mean he was you know,

604
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not easy. But to me, I always I didn't

605
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: ever with McGovern, I see bulk size, the fact that

606
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: he could play center, the he could play guard. I

607
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: think that's why Buffalo did what they did. They look

608
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: at this guy like, man, this guy's got some versatility.

609
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Plus you know, he's got some toughness about him too,

610
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: you know him and Tyler Smith did a nice job

611
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: over there on that side. Yeah, they really really did

612
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't the issue. I think this is shaping up

613
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: pretty well though. When you talked about the excitement on

614
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: the defense, you know, I mean you just you look

615
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: at what you have on your football team and again,

616
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: and I say this all the time that people like

617
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: to forget, but this was a good football team. This

618
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: is a really good team. Last year they were one

619
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: of the top six. There's three in the NFC, three

620
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: in the AFC. They are one of them. And I

621
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: promise you this. The teams that are that were good

622
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: on the other side, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Kansas City. I would

623
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: put Philly in there. Only Dallas and San Francisco figured

624
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: out a way to win without their starting quarterback. I mean,

625
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: I just don't believe that that that Josh Allen can

626
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: miss five games for Buffalo and they'd be okay. I

627
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: know Philly couldn't because we saw what was happening. My

628
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: point is is that they have a good football team

629
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: around them and that showed last year and now they're

630
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: they're they're adding to it. They're keeping their guys and

631
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you had to go play a game tomorrow,

632
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: which you don't, but I think that you know you're

633
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: in a good situation there. But to your point of

634
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Brian about Tyron Smith, it is an interesting thing. I

635
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: think something will happen today with him. Not I think

636
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: he stays on the team. But I think you'll see

637
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: some news on Tyron Smith today that they're going to

638
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: keep him here. But where does he play? That's still

639
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: see that's that's that's the question I have. If you

640
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: get the restructure on the deal, then you know, is

641
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: he is he going to be a swing? Is he

642
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Speaker 1: going to be your Is he gonna be your Jason Peters?

643
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've I like to believe that. You know,

644
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: if that's the case, you know, fine, because I think

645
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: you need to play those young guys. I'll I've always

646
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: admitted this, and I'll admit it till I leave this business.

647
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: I was wrong about Tared Steele. You ran the ball

648
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: really well with Terrence Steele in there. You didn't run

649
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: the ball as well with with Tyren Smith plan over there.

650
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: You just didn't. And you know, and so the quicker

651
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: they could get Tared steelback. Now the thing about Steel

652
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: real quick, his guy's gone, Joe Philbin is no longer

653
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: in the building. Can Mike Solari continue the growth of

654
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: what we've seen with with with with Terrence Steele, and

655
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, and the growth with well let's Go and

656
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Ball and farni Ac and you know, then these guys

657
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Speaker 1: as well Let's go. That might that might be well,

658
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: well let's go might be the one. I'm kind of

659
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: the ball one. I'm kind of got one foot in

660
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the parking lot on He's kind of but with with

661
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Let's Go, he's missing, like he's got the sublexation problem

662
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: with the shoulder. They get it fixed, he comes back

663
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: and in training camp and he looks better. He hadn't

664
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: practiced all year. They throw him in a preseason game

665
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: and he looks better than the guy's been practicing the

666
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: whole time. You know, that might be the one that

667
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: all of a suddense like, ah, that light came on.

668
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Oh he got opportunity. Oh you know, a coach is

669
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: helping him out here. That's that's the one. I'm keeping.

670
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: Those those guys that come back after their first year

671
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: and even their second year and see what they look

672
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: like in the weight room. You know, well, let's go,

673
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: it's got that tall frame. D like to see what

674
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: happens with the whole, the whole, you know, year on

675
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: the off season. Same with Farniac too, so um, you

676
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: know with Steele coming back from the injury too, that

677
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe this is a situation like hey, it'll

678
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: it'll work itself out, you know. But you're right about

679
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. I just and I said it a couple

680
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: shows ago about Tyrone Crawford. I just don't want him

681
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: to be a guy. It's playing a thousand positions, just

682
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: moving around because he can do it. When when you're

683
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: stunting his growth and I mean growth potential moving around,

684
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: you got to stick to one spot. Especially Round moved

685
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: around a little bit though didn't he did. But the

686
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: thing about Larry Allen though, is that I don't have

687
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: a good answer for this. But the thing with especially

688
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: with a young guy, Larry Allen wasn't established and I know,

689
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: but he was. You know, to me, Tyler Smith, that

690
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: left tackle is a is a good deal, you know.

691
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: And I that's your future, yea, that is your future.

692
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: And you know and in the minute that we I

693
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Speaker 1: and I hate to say this because I don't want

694
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Speaker 1: to be this guy, but I I'll be this guy.

695
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: The thing about it is, every time we talk about

696
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, it's like, well, when is that, when's that time?

697
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: When's that time? When? Oh, well, he woke up with

698
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: back tightness today, oh woke up with the shoulder. Oh well,

699
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, we're watching practice here out

700
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: here at the at the Star, and and all of

701
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's on the ground and you're like, did

702
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: he hit anybody? You know? Did he? Oh he ripped? Yeah? Him, yeah,

703
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: like him wanting to still be here. Oh no, No.

704
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: The fact that your body gonna tell you know, the

705
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: fact that he even moved over to right tackle. I mean,

706
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I think that's why the Cowboys are doing this or

707
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: staying on this. I think the I think the Cowboys

708
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: are looking at this, the front office and the coaches

709
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: are saying this Hall of fame left tackle saw with

710
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: a situation and moved over to the right side to

711
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: try and help the team. That's you know, his contract.

712
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: When you look at tackles throughout the history, he was

713
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: grossly underpaid. And I'm sorry to the cap guys if

714
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: they're listening today, but you guys did a great job

715
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: of getting that contract done because if you look at

716
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of thing of what tackles make, he

717
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: was kind of underpaid. From that contract that he was.

718
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: But that's that's what that's Tyren Smith. And that's what

719
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Zach Martin is too. When you look at what you

720
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: know that they signed Zack Martin to a deal a

721
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: few years ago and they still kind of move his

722
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: money around and all that. And you're seeing what Lyndstrom

723
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Speaker 1: you know, I guess as he a center from the

724
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Speaker 1: guy from Atlantic, Yeah, because he's a guard. Yeah yeah,

725
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was you making like a hundred million.

726
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean like, oh no, it's crazy. Yeah. And so

727
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: Tyrant could have done that every year, you know, he

728
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: really could have every year. He could have set it.

729
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: Let's take our no, not a final break, because we're

730
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Speaker 1: about to hit the end of the show, so and

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Speaker 1: we do need to take a break. Let's take the break.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep the conversation going and we'll also kind of

733
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Speaker 1: if we're planning on finishing on time. So let's get

779
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: into some of the reports out there. This is not

780
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: official or anything in the team. We haven't heard officially

781
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: from the Cowboy and what they're doing. But the reports

782
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: floating around social media right now is that Zekiel Ezekiel

783
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Eliot he's supposedly going to get released from the Cowboys

784
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: and that they didn't manage to work out a deal

785
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: between the two. And this is something that has been

786
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of speculated for a while. We have heard weeks ago,

787
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: even right after the season, possibly then working out a

788
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: deal where Zeke would take a pay cut and still

789
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: managed to stay on the team. But this is something

790
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: that wouldn't necessarily be surprising, just because of how things

791
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: have been kind of falling and knowing that it would

792
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: possibly be hard to keep both running backs together. We

793
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: know Tony Power got the tax, So where's the situation.

794
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: What's what's happening? Nick? What can you say you expect? Now?

795
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: I think Zeke um, we'll see what happens. But you know,

796
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: this is one of those things where there's smoke, there's fire,

797
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of smoke about this. We've talked

798
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: about it. We said that that that we think I've

799
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: said it. I don't know about we, but I think

800
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: I think we've all kind of agreed that it's probably

801
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: makes the most sense to do that. You know, I

802
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: don't to release him, Um, you know, they don't want

803
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: to lower his salary like like what they need him

804
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to do to be on this team. To me, he's

805
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna be If he was on this team, he'd be

806
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: the third running back because you have to draft one.

807
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: With Tony Pollard as a franchise tag, you have to

808
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: draft a good one and then you got those two

809
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: guys and then where does Zeke fall in. Last year's

810
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: third running back made eight hundred, seven hundred thousand, Malie Davis,

811
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: that's you're not going to offer him that. So I

812
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: just think it's it's it's time, it's run its course,

813
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: and it'll probably happen. That's what we've said before. And

814
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, based off of report, so they're

815
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: probably not wrong. We'll see what happens later today or tomorrow. Yeah,

816
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, it's it's a it was a

817
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: heck of a run if that's the case. And you know,

818
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: like I said, they they've you know, it reminds me

819
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: so much of I remember, I think this, well, okay,

820
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I think this is different from the Dez Bryant thing

821
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that we all went through. Remember that Nick and Amber

822
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: when it when it was like we're waiting for that.

823
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Are they gonna do something? What are they gonna do?

824
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: They're not gonna let him get into free agency? What's

825
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: going on? Why they hold in? We get to April.

826
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's like Dez and Jerry. I remember, I remember,

827
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: like I remember bumping into Dez in the hallway. I

828
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: was over at the Video Department visiting with Robert Blackwell,

829
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Speaker 1: and Dez came bouncing down the hall. He was meeting

830
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Speaker 1: with Jerry there in the in the war room right

831
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Speaker 1: there nixt to the and I remember he's like he

832
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: was all so happy in this, that and the other.

833
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, well great. And then you know,

834
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Speaker 1: seven minutes later he's hustling out of here because it

835
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: was over. You know, and we've seen we've seen him

836
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: move on from guys, we've seen him move on from

837
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Speaker 1: We've seen him move on from where from. You know,

838
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: they've moved on from Terrell Owens. They've moved on for

839
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Speaker 1: some from some guy is here, it moved on from

840
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, you know, so, uh, you know, this is

841
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: one of those kinds when it was time, I think,

842
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: I think Zeke did everything he could to help you

843
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: win football games, and but just towards the point now

844
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: where the contract is too much for for what you're

845
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: for what you're trying to do, you know, or the

846
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: way that the way he's playing, you know, it's weird

847
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: and it's it's a sad day for me because I

848
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: haven't experienced this yet. I haven't experienced a key play

849
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Speaker 1: or a key member of the team, a guy that

850
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Speaker 1: you drafted, a guy that was a star for your team,

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Speaker 1: probably too long. Yeah, but the fact that they're willing

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Speaker 1: potential releases happen today. Make sure to stay tuned on

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Speaker 1: the website Dallas Cowboys dot com. We have a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool tracker up there a free agency that you and

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Speaker 1: go in check it out and you just easily see

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Speaker 1: everything that has been happening with signing or guys that

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything Draft Show next Draft Show is

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for Nikki Mean Brian broad Us,

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