1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of the Clay and 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Buck Show gets going right now. Appreciate you being with us, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: also joining us in addition to millions and millions of 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: you across the country, if we appreciate it. Of course, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: so very much, Mike Lee, Senator from the Great State 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: of Utah. We love all our Utah listeners. Senator Lee, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you calling in. Thank you very much. It's gonna 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: be with you. So there's a lot of things, very 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: important things to talk about that we will get to 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: in just a moment. But I mean, everybody right now 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: is wondering what is going on with Mitt Romney, the 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: other Republican least officially senator in your state, and the 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: endorsement you would think that should come for you, as 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: his Republican colleague in the Great stead of Utah. What's 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: going on here? Mike? Look, I can't speak for him. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: He's cited the fact that he's got two good friends 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: in this race and has chosen to stay out. I 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: will say this not too late. It's not too late. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: He can still join in. We welcome his support in 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm getting the message out that running against 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: an opponent who, while campaigning is an independent, voted for 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, campaigned for Joe Biden, his praise. Basically, everything 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has done and has been endorsed by the 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is now raising money on Act Blue, the 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Democratic Party's fundraising platform. And so look, if it it 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: quacks like a duck and walks like a duck and 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: swims like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: it's a donkey. So this is a race that's closer 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: than it should be. Is my opponent's convincing a lot 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: of people that this is sort of a race between 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: two Republicans. It's not. He's a Lib. Just so everyone understands. 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: He's a Lib who goes on TV for the amusement 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: of Democrats that hate the Republican Party. But it's it's 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: one of these apostate It's like the Lincoln Project, right, 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: they exist in this space where they pretend they wear 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the Republican jacket so they can get in the locker 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: room and sabotage. No, no, that's exactly right. And you've 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: seen pieces of evidence of that all over the place. 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: In the meantime, the Utah media is uniformly liberal, as 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: liberal as the rest of the state is conservative, and 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: so they're constantly praising him, never asking him to pony 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: up on any policy issues, looking the other way as 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: he does nothing but undertake unfair, nasty hits at me. 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: And then they publish poles polls that I believe are 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: skewed that show my opponent within the margin of error 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: with me. As you know, things like that can become 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: something of a self fulfilling prophecy. He then uses those 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: in his fundraising solicitations to raise millions of dollars on 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Act Blue by saying the people, Hey, look, I could 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: beat Mike Lee and they're sending him millions of dollars. 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: We've got a superpack donation that recently came in for 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: him for one point five million dollars from a big 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: lefty group, and he's claiming to have raised two and 55 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: a half million dollars in the last quarter alone. So 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: any within the sound of your voice, if they'd like 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: to help make sure that we keep Utah republican, we 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: keep the Senate in Republican hands, because I believe we 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: are in a position to retake the majority. I'd encourage 60 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: them to support me. They can do that at leaf 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: or Senate dot com. That's Leafer Senate dot com. Senaly, 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on. We enjoyed hanging out with 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: you in Park City, getting to meet you in person 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: back in the late summer. As you go around the 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: state of Utah, what are people telling you that they 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: are caring about the most? Is it inflation in the 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: economy in your state like it is most of the 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: most of the country, or is there something else that 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: is resonating. There are three issues that I hear the 70 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: most about. The first is inflation, the second is inflation, 71 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: and the third is also inflation. This is hitting Utah's 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: worse than it is even most parts of the country. 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: In Utah, if you measure it relative to January twentieth, 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the date Joe Biden took office, Utah's 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: are experiencing inflation relative to that date at about fifteen 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: and a half percent. The averaging Usta family is spending 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: nine hundred and twenty five dollars a month more on 78 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: their basic monthly expenses every single month than they were 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: in January of twenty twenty one. That's significant, and make 80 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: no mistake, that's the clear impact of Joe Biden's policies. 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: He spent too much money last year. Federal government took 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: in a record four trillion dollars but spent a record 83 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars. When you do that predictably, foreseeably, causes inflation. 84 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: That's what this is. Center Lee is with us right 85 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: now from Utah. He's running for reelection everybody, and we 86 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: want our massive Utah based audience to please do what 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: you can get out there help Senator Lee because they're 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: running a false flag Republican against him. Folks, that's basically 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: what's going on. They're running a pseudo Republican and it's nonsense, 90 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: it's dishonest. But it goes in line with Democrats hiding 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: candidates from the public, lying about what their candidates said 92 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: five minutes ago. So it's important that we keep our 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: eye on the ball here. Senator Lee also wanted to 94 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: ask you if I could, about this arrest. You know, 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: they sent people to go get eleven pro life activists 96 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: and the Merrick Garland DOJ going after people for obstructing 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: clinic access eighteen months ago. But as Clay points out, 98 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I was talking about this as well. There were Supreme 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Court protests where there were threatening mobs on their laws 100 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: and the law didn't count there. You're you're a student 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: of the constitution and the law. What's going on here? Yeah, 102 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. I've asked Department of Justice and 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: FBI officials about these disparities, and I've asked them about 104 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: specifically the disparity between pregnancy crisis centers and abortion centers, 105 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: and also about the discrepancy between protests in front of 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices, homes and elsewhere. They've never been able 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: to offer up any satisfactory answer. Usually they start with saying, well, 108 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: we arrest people and investigate people on all sides of 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: this issue. And when I ask for details, it was 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: promised to get back to me with their written catalog 111 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: of them, and then they don't. So it is disturbing. 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: I would always like to believe if there's more to 113 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: the story that I'm not seeing, but what I am 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: seeing really troubles me. Centerally, I'm sure you heard a 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: lot about this. We talked about it on the program. 116 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: You're a BYU. I believe undergrad and law school alum 117 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Yes, it's right. What did you 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: think about the treatment in two different ways of Mormons, 119 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: in particular in the national sphere. One was the Duke 120 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 1: volleyball player announced that there was a racial slur yelled 121 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: at her at BYU. They conducted an exhaustive review basically 122 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: found out that that was not true. Best case scenario, 123 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: she misheard something. Worst case scenario, she totally made it up. 124 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: But most in the national media ran with it to 125 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: such an extent that nobody even heard the truth. There 126 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and then by US football team went on the road 127 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: and played at Oregon and Mormons were directly insulted on 128 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: video by chance from Oregon fans inside of the stadium 129 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: and it barely registered as a blip on the radar 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: as a double BYU alum and certainly as someone who 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: was in a state with a massive Mormon population, How 132 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: unfair was that treatment? And have you guys gotten used 133 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: to it? Why is it happening in your mind? Yeah? 134 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: His letter day, sins were certainly accustomed to that. This 135 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: has been going on for basically the entire existence of 136 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: our faith, and not unique to this century or the 137 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: century before that. What is unique now? Though, is the 138 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: speed at which information can travel, and the speed at 139 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: which information can travel while not being investigated or filtered. 140 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: The fact that people didn't stop to investigate whether these 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: accusations of the volleyball game were true or could be supported, 142 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: but they just repeated them anyway on the basis of 143 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: one person's word and their willingness to dispew all these 144 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: really horrible insults that are not rioted. In fact, anybody 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: who actually knows BYU or knows that the culture of 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: our people, on our community, knows that that sort of 147 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: thing wouldn't be tolerated, not for an instant. But it 148 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: was a story that they liked, and for whatever reason, 149 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: there were a number of people in the medium who 150 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: saw that this further their interests somehow, and so they 151 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: ran with it. It's shameful, really. It seems that religious 152 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: minorities and religious people in general are the last people 153 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: in America against whom it's okay it's publicly acceptable to 154 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: be bigoted against them, and that certainly includes a latter 155 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Day Saint said, I think that's disappointing. I'm sure, Senator Lee, 156 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: you saw that they're bringing another suit against the Masterpiece 157 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Cake Shop owner in Colorado after trying to get him 158 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: to make a cake that was a phallus and trying 159 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: to make him make a cake that was satanic. Now 160 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to make him make a cake for a 161 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: gender transition surgery. To your point about religious freedom, it 162 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: does feel like there's just an ongoing assault. Yes, yes, 163 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: and that circumstance that you've described encompasses not only a 164 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: threat to religious freedom and to the interests of religious 165 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: people everywhere, but it has also come pounded by the 166 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: fact that what we're dealing with there is also a 167 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: free speech violation when you've got government trying to corese 168 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: somebody to do something that violence not only their religious beliefs, 169 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: but also is compelled speech. The compelled speech doctrine under 170 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the First Amendment subjects to heavy scrutiny in the effort 171 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: by government to make you say something that you don't 172 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: want to say. That is what they're doing here. So 173 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: it's a hybrid right, it's a compound right, and it's 174 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: one that I don't think we'll hold up in court 175 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But it is really 176 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: discouraging and should be alarming to everyone, whether you're religious 177 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: or not. Whether you share the beliefs in the worldview 178 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: of this individual or not, should be troubling to anyone 179 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: to see that any government in the United States of 180 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: America in this day and age would try to make 181 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: someone say something that they don't want to say, especially 182 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: when they find it repugnant offensive to their religious beliefs generally. 183 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Your last question for you here, You have spent a 184 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: lot of time in the law, both as a lawyer 185 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: a judge. You've covered a lot of different arenas there. 186 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how closely you've been following Elon Musk's 187 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: pursuit of Twitter. It now appears that he's going to 188 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: buy Twitter. From a First Amendment perspective, from a marketplace 189 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: of ideas perspective, building off the question that you were 190 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: just answering there from Buck, what do you think any 191 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Elon Musk owned Twitter might look like? What should it 192 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: look like if we're going to embrace robust marketplace of 193 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: ideas principles in this country? Okay, so just claimer upfront. 194 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: I sometimes suffer from unfettered exuberance, especially where Elon Musk 195 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: is involved. I think it's going to be a complete 196 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: game changer if when he finally completes this transaction, and 197 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: I sincerely hope that he does. I think you'll see 198 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: a number of changes immediately. Number one, I think you'll 199 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: start to see the disappearance of bots, or at least 200 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: the disappearance of most of the bots on their Number two, 201 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: because I think you want to weed those out and 202 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: make it a legitimate platform for the exchange of ideas. 203 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Number two, I think you will see an actual fare 204 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: even playing field for people to communicate their ideas without 205 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: people being shadow band trottled, or otherwise disfavored because of 206 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: particular religious beliefs, religious, political, or other philosophical beliefs. And 207 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: I think what will happen will be a net gain 208 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: for humanity, a net gain for Twitter users, and a 209 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: net gain for the American people is they can have 210 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: fair conversations. To be frank, that hasn't been happening on Twitter. 211 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: It hasn't been happening on Facebook and on Instagram. And 212 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: I think it's high time that somebody get in there 213 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: with the idea of making it something of an open 214 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: public form. Generally, should folks go to help out in 215 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: your reelection, which is a race people need to actually 216 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: be active in. Yes, thank you, yeah, it is a 217 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: close race. My opponent's claiming it's within the margin of ara. 218 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I think he's exaggerating, but again he's making into a 219 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophety. Potentially, so people who want to support 220 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: me and help Republicans sees the majority in the Senate 221 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: to stop Joe Biden's dangerous agenda should go to Leefer 222 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,479 Speaker 1: Senate dot com. That's Leaf or Senate dot com. Your contribution, 223 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: even if it's just five or ten dollars, be greatly appreciated, 224 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee. Everybody, Senator, thanks for being with us, 225 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Take care. His opponent, Clay is a 226 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Russia collusion truther, left wing hack posing as an independent 227 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: and pretending to be a almost a moderate Republican to 228 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: squeeze it through in Utah. It's just so dis People 229 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: should be appalled at how slimy and disingenuous it is. 230 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of sliming and disingenuous, how about Mitt Romney not 231 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: endorsing Mike Lee. I expect nothing more from mitt So 232 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately Mittens. Mittens doesn't need to be elected in you. 233 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: It's all about Mitt. Just remember the country. Look look 234 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: what Biden's done to the country. Look what the Democrats 235 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Senate's done to the country. But Trump hurt MIT's feelings, 236 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: So that's what matters. Okay, his whole oh I stand 237 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: on principle. Yeah, Mitt was also marching with Black Lives Matter. 238 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Don't don't ever forget that, folks, because yeah, if you're 239 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: thinking about somebody who's like down for the struggle and 240 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: cares about racial justice, Mitt Romney from his eighty million 241 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: dollars San Diego based beach house, he is down for 242 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: the struggle everybody. He really cares. You can tell not 243 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Mit around here. Before your 244 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: cell phone acted as your video camera, you were inclined 245 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: to buy and lug around one of those really expensive 246 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: video cameras. Right once those were in every best Buy 247 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: in Walmart, it became an aspirational purchase. But two hundred 248 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: video cassettes later, you can after every birthday, party, baseball game, 249 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: and first drive down the driveway, you can still have 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: those videotapes. You're waiting for the moment you can buy 251 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: all the computer gear you need to digitally transfer them. 252 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: That's going to take you hours, perhaps dozens of hours. 253 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: There's a better way. It's a company called Legacy Box. 254 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: They digitally transfer every last videotape and Super eight film 255 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: you have. They do it in several weeks time, all 256 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: by hand. They even ship you a specially made box 257 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: to carefully ship all those memories back and forth. When 258 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Legacy boxes work is complete, they email you a link 259 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: that allows you to see all the videos again. 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I can't believe Buck that he is still 274 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: selling this claptrap, but he is, and there's a lot 275 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: of people who believe him, and this is what he 276 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: said last night on CBS. Then you wind up going 277 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: into a winter season when most people would spend a 278 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: lot of time indoors, and any respiratory infection, no matter 279 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: what it is, always does better for the virus when 280 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you're indoors in the cold weather. The way we can 281 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: modify that make sure it doesn't get out of hand, 282 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: that's just go out and get vaccinated. We have sixty 283 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: eight percent of a population isvaccinated, and only one half 284 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: of those have gotten at least one boost. If you 285 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: compare us to the other countries in the world, we 286 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: are down in the ranking of vaccination, even below some 287 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: low and middle income countries. So we've got to do 288 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: better if we want to get back to a normality. 289 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh Clay, normality is just another seven or eight shots 290 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: away on the outside, maybe maybe shot number twelve, but 291 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: still in about five or six years. I mean, this guy, 292 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: he's a sociopath. Honestly, what percentage of people do you 293 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: think still trust and believe that Fauci is an honest, 294 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: dispassionate man of science. Twenty five percent of the American 295 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: public like what percenting you think still believes in Fauci. 296 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: The fact that anybody still believes in Fauci is of 297 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: American public policy. And that is why I think, before 298 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden done, we've got to put him 299 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: in front of the witness stand and make him cry. 300 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: We're living through oh man, one could dream. We're living 301 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: through one of the most turbulent financial years we've experienced 302 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: in a long time. Every one of the markets, from 303 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: the stock markets the real estate markets is as unstable 304 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: as we've seen in a long time. With things like 305 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: this going on, putting some security in consistency in your 306 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: savings account plant is important. I've invested in gold in 307 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: times like these. Gold has been proven overtime to hold 308 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: value when markets become turbulent. I use the Oxford Gold 309 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: Group for gold purchases. 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Clay he is throwing down 319 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: his very expensive gauntlet, taking taking off his ascot, his 320 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: top hat and monocle after the tequila fiasco, and he 321 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: will be joining us here on the Clay Ann Buck Show. 322 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: But we will get to him tomorrow. Congressman Ted Bud 323 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: is with us now from North Carolina. He is in 324 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: a very important Senate race there. Congresson Bud, thanks for 325 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: calling in. Glad to be with you while we're traveling 326 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: all across North Carolina. Thanks for making time. This is 327 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: a tight race here in North Carolina. I appreciate all 328 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: your viewers, are your listeners paying attention to it. And anyway, 329 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: we got thirty three days to go, and we're gonna 330 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: run hard, and you know so visit is a statistical 331 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: margin of air race. We're a couple of points ahead, 332 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: but look, I don't believe it. I know we're gonna 333 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: run like we're behind and we could share. You use 334 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: everybody's help to look up Tedbud dot com. And help 335 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: us win this race. What's the biggest issue that you're 336 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: hearing on the ground. We were just talking with Mike 337 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Lee from Utah and he said the number one thing 338 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: he's hearing is inflation. Inflation, inflation. North Carolina obviously has 339 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: become kind of a bellweather state for how the nation 340 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: may well go. For people who are going to be 341 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: watching these results come in on election night, thirty three 342 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: days from you from now, when we expect for you 343 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: to be winning that seat. What are people talking about 344 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: in your state? What's the focus? Well, it's inflation, for sure, 345 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: that's the number one issue, but it's closely followed by 346 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: crime and education. I mean, when we talk about inflation, 347 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a bar graphs and pie charts. 348 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: It's people talking about how do they put groceries on 349 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: their table and gas in their tank. This week and 350 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: last month, they were parents were trying to figure out 351 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: how to afford back to school clothes for their kids. 352 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, it just gets worse. And now we're looking 353 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: at power bills going up this winter. I mean, that's 354 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: a crisis for folks that are We're just starting to 355 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: attraction under the previous president. Now under Joe Biden. You know, 356 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: it's the train wreck. And my opponent, Cherry Beasley would 357 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: be she would double down on those policies. She would 358 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: help subsidize eighty seven thousand more i RS agents and 359 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: rich people buying Tesla's, but she won't help to do 360 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: anything to lower your power bill or your gas bill. 361 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: So it's breaking people's hearts here and breaking their banks 362 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: here in North Carolina. And when it comes to crime, 363 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: I mean what sheriffs and law enforcements coming up to 364 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: me all around the state and they're saying, every single 365 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: county in North Carolina is now a border county because 366 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's policies. And those are the policies that 367 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: Cherry Beasley would support. Speaking of Ted bud, he is 368 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: running for Senate in North Carolina. He's currently a congressman there. 369 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Biden economy has obviously been a huge 370 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: drag of the Democrat Party's fortunes up to this point, 371 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: and for good reason. What has I mean inflation for 372 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: the folks in your state. How bad is it and 373 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: what are some of the stories you're hearing about its impacts? Well, 374 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: you know, our largest industry here in North Carolina. It's agriculture. 375 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: It's closed to one hundred billion dollars a year. I 376 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: just left a farm meeting with farmers from all over 377 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: the state and people with different farm organizations, and at 378 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: the very end, you know, they said thank you for 379 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: your work. The Farm Bureau came up, they gave me 380 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: the Friend of Farmer's Award for my work in Congress 381 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: to support them. But when it comes to energy, you 382 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: know what feels like pain at the pump for all 383 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: of us. It's also even more painful if you're driving 384 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: a truck or a tracktor that takes diesel fuel to 385 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: get crops in the field. Now that's in the fall, 386 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: get crops out of the field and out of the 387 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: grocery stores. So it's more and more expensive. And it's 388 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: the policies that Joe Biden did by shutting down the 389 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Keystone Pipeline, shutting off energy production here in the US 390 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: and now going over to Saudi Arabia and begging for 391 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: fuel and then you know, and they say no, we're 392 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: going to cut it by two million barrels a day. 393 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: And then he goes to Venezuela and said, by the way, 394 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I know you're hot still to the US, but we're 395 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna ease sanctions on you all who hate the US, 396 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: and we're gonna try to do more business with you. 397 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: It's completely backwards. And you know, while that's foreign policy, 398 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: it all matters at the pump, it all matters in 399 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: Wallace here in North Carolina, and it's hurting people right 400 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: here across the state. We're talking to the next senator 401 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: from North Carolina. He's Ted Bud. I believe you went 402 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: to app State for undergrad If I'm not mistaken, this 403 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: is not going to be a serious gotcha question, but 404 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Were you watching the game at Texas A 405 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: and M and against Texas A and M. Sorry for 406 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: the Aggy fans who were listening right now, and if so, 407 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: how did you celebrate? You know, we celebrated. It was 408 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: it was down to the wire. I've got lots of 409 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: friends and you know those in Congress that are that 410 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: were calling me and congratulating me. They were heartbroken, of course, 411 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: but way to go to the Mountaineers. We're very proud 412 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: of them. They've got such they're such a powerhouse and 413 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: my degree is worth even more now than it was 414 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: back then. But they've done such a great job at 415 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: app State, and of course back then we called it 416 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: Appalachian State. But there's still the Mountaineers, and I'm very 417 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: proud of them. I'm proud of the Mountaineers to Clay. 418 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: They got the big win over Michigan, one of the 419 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: greatest upsets in the history of college football. Pluck couldn't 420 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: believe it when it happened. And by the way, this 421 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: is a joke. I took him for the first time 422 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: congressman to a college football game. He had no idea 423 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: what he was into. Now I know, North Carolina has 424 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: also got an illustrious college basketball history, but Boon, North 425 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: Carolina is a fabulous place for people who have not 426 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: been there before. Well, I'm proud to have gone to 427 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: school there and get back up to Watauga County Boon 428 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: area as much as I can. You know, the folks 429 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: in West or North Carolina, they say, when you get 430 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: to Boon, when you get to Ashville, you haven't even 431 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: gotten there yet. You still got three hours more of 432 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: mountains to go out west. And I'm grateful for all 433 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: their support, and I love getting up there every time 434 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: that I can. Senator I'm sorry soon to be Senator 435 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: Ted Bud, the Congressman Ted Budd in North Carolina. If 436 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: people want to help out, get involved with your campaign, 437 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: support you, where should they go? Just go to my 438 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: website if they can get the d's in the right place. 439 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: It's Ted with one D Bud with two days, Tedbud 440 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: dot com at Osteria right to ways you can support 441 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: us and certainly would appreciate everyone's help. This is a 442 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: statistical margin of error race and you can find the 443 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: links to social media on there as well. Ted. We 444 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you, We're rooting for you and look forward to 445 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: you being able to celebrate the becoming a United States 446 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: senator here in about thirty three days. Claim buck, God, 447 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: bless you all, Thanks you what you do. Thank you. 448 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: No one could wish something serious like a food short 449 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: on anyone, any part of the country. Any sort of 450 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: facts that might arise that could make that happen wherever 451 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: you live. 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As we get closer, and it's not very 476 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: far now that we're into October holiday season, I hate 477 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: to bring it up. You're probably starting to already see 478 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: the Christmas celebrations. Certainly, I hope you got the Halloween decorations. 479 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: Do you do anything buck in your apartment for the 480 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: holiday season, Like if I were coming into europart I 481 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: know you've been there for a little while, but would 482 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: I know that it was Halloween or Thanksgiving? Or did 483 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: you have your own Christmas tree? Like? Did you do 484 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: any holiday related decorations as a single man living in 485 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: New York City. Well, now that I am engaged, I'm 486 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: sure we're going to have yule Tide cheer and in 487 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the apple cider and seasonal related delicate. Carry's going to 488 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: take care of all that stuff, you know. I let 489 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: her pick the furniture. She has the nice aesthetics. The 490 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: most that I ever did as a single man living 491 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: in New York City was I got a mini Christmas 492 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: tree for like twenty bucks off the street, and then 493 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: I realized that I didn't actually have any ornaments for it. Yeah, 494 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: so it just looked like I had a like a 495 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: weird little tree in my apartment. It wasn't It would 496 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: probably would have been better to go treeless. In retrospect, 497 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: we are ready for Halloween. My wife goes all in 498 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: for Halloween, and we have started to put all of 499 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the Halloween decorations out. But are you dressing up? Are 500 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: you going Cobra Kai this year? What are you doing? 501 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: I think I can say what we're going to be. 502 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: The whole family's dressing up together. We're going as the 503 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties starting five of the Chicago Bulls. So for 504 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: anybody out there who remembers the Michael Jordan era Chicago Bulls, 505 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I of course am Michael Jordan and the rest of 506 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the family the second of the three peats. The rest 507 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: of the family, my three boys, and my wife are 508 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: also going to be Chicago Bulls. So we will have 509 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the starting five for the nineteen nineties are Chicago Bulls. 510 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: Wife's decision good one for her, but you know they 511 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: skip over we go all in on Halloween. There's not 512 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: necessarily a lot of Thanksgiving related the festivities. I mean 513 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving itself, but in terms of like the decorations 514 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: that you put up. And I was out the other 515 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: day and they've already got all the Christmas stuff up. 516 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: So what I'm pointing out here is I tried to 517 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: be going to tell people to describe the podcast. A 518 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: lot of you are going to be on the road, 519 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: everybody especially, I feel like everybody's catching up on the 520 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: road for Thanksgiving, on the road for Christmas. Boom. You 521 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: seek us out and you won't miss a moment, including 522 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know what he said here, but I 523 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: was gonna play this. We've got Jesse Kelly on yesterday. 524 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: The fallout of him ordering seventy five dollars tequila shots continues, 525 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: and I guess he was taking shots on us on 526 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: his show yesterday. Let's hear what he said. Well, they're 527 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: cut off. I'm gonna go on their show on Friday. 528 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: It's already lined up. I'm gonna go on their show 529 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: two thirty pm Eastern Time on Friday, and it's go time. 530 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say is it's go time. I'm 531 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: going to go defend my honor. And yes, okay, I 532 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: had an old fashion. That doesn't change the tequila accusations. 533 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Can I just say? I mean Jesse's very tall, So 534 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: in the spirit of Cobra, Kai Clay just remember sweep 535 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: the leg You know, you get tall, you gotta go 536 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: for the legs. Such a good show, Such a good show. 537 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Jesse will be on with us tomorrow trying to defend 538 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: the indefensible. But I would encourage you to tune into 539 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: two thirty and here how he can defend seventy five 540 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: dollars tequila shots. Quite the diva behavior. I'll just say, 541 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris esque side chick behavior by Jesse Kelly out 542 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: on the rooftop of the Peninsula Hotel, New York City. 543 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: So I have a leg I have a legal conundrum 544 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: for you. This all for me, okay. So there was 545 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: on the field football on the football field, Yes, there 546 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: was an activist who was tackled. Well, I don't even 547 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: know what was the activist even I think. I think 548 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: it's these animal rights people. I think are just obsessively 549 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: going onto the field and courts. Yea animal rights activist 550 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: tackled by a Los Angeles Rams linebacker Bobby Wagner. Protester 551 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: has been identified as Alex Taylor ran onto the field 552 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: carrying a pink flare and as I understand it, this 553 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: ran rammed him, took him down, tackle him the ground. 554 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: And now he is claiming that that is assault. Yeah. 555 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: What I think is interesting is, you know when you 556 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: see these guys, I do remember that. I think it 557 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: was a red Bull commercial where the guys naked and 558 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: he runs out of Wimbledon. They're like, and he's off 559 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: like a bull with gas. You know, there's sort of 560 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: this Remember that commercial, you guys remember that there's this 561 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: thing about I actually remember, I believe it or not. 562 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I was at a Yankees game a long, long long 563 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: time ago when I used to do these things, and 564 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I remember a guy ran in the field and straight 565 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: up stiff armed a security guard into the ground, and 566 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: the stadium went wild over this right like it almost 567 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: was kind of part and then eventually got tackled by 568 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: five guys. But on what are the legal react Like 569 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: if someone jumps on your football field, you're a player 570 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: and you lay hands on them, you're not defending yourself. 571 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: So are you making a citizens arrest? Like? How does 572 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: this work? I don't know the answer because I don't 573 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: know that there's that many comparable situations. My wife, when 574 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: I saw all this happened, I was watching it and 575 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: she said, oh, he's gonna get sued now. I think 576 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: one reason the guy. So, first of all, I can't 577 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: imagine very many juries. Let's just say this, were it 578 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: to go to a jury, are going to say, yeah, 579 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: the guy who ran on the field and interrupted the 580 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: game and got taken out by a player, a football 581 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: player in the game. I can't imagine very many juries 582 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: are going to be sympathetic towards him. But I think 583 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: he probably wants the attention of filing the lawsuit because 584 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: remember Buck, the general rule was this never goes on 585 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: air when somebody runs on the because people want to 586 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: get attention they run on the field. They don't show 587 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: them on traditional tells. They don't want to encourage it. 588 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: It's like negociating the terrorists. Yes, but the problem is 589 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: now everybody's got phones in the stadium, so whenever anybody 590 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: runs on the field, because there's so many different people 591 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: who can do it, I think as feels really interesting 592 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: to me. It's a goodly as a legal question is 593 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: interesting because I mean everyone, this stuff can be very 594 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: serious everyone. I remember when Monica Sellis, who was really 595 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: the number one tennis player women's tennis player in the 596 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: world at the time. This was back maybe the early 597 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: nineties or lady Trees had some straight up maniac run 598 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: out and stabber in the back. Fortunately she ended up 599 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: being okay, but stabbed her with a knife. There was 600 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: no security, so people took the whole jumping on the 601 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: field thing or jumping on the court very differently after that. 602 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: But I do wonder, I mean, okay, I mean to 603 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: get to the legal realities of tackling like a streaker, 604 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: which is a whole other thing, right, because you're getting 605 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: real close. But if you tackle a streaker and your 606 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: security guard, I guess that's in your professional capacity to 607 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: defend that space. But if you are a player, I mean, 608 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: what would happen if somebody jumped on the field naked 609 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: or not, doesn't matter, we'll make it clothed, jumps on 610 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: the field and is making a run for it, and 611 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: one of these NFL guys, who are you know, incredibly 612 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: strong and incredibly fast, you know, punches him right in 613 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the face, knocks him out cold. Is that legal or 614 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: is that an assault? I think that's an assault, right, 615 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think it's pretty clear. So how 616 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: different is the tackling from the punching? By the way, 617 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: I am very anti this kind of behavior, but I'm 618 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: just wondering how the statutory framework applies here. And obviously, 619 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: you know this is what I was talking about earlier 620 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: with the law school hypothetical. It's actually a great law 621 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: school hypothetical because I even argue Buck that the story 622 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: would be different if he were naked, because if he's naked, 623 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: you're clear that he's unarmed and so not theoretically much 624 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: of a danger to a football player. But also the 625 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: football player laying this guy out actually assists security in 626 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: being able to do their job. So I don't know 627 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: what the law of California, which is I believe where 628 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: this happened, would be on this incident. Certainly there aren't 629 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: going to be criminal charges brought related to this incident, 630 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: but the guy has filed a civil claim I believe 631 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: against the guy who the player, Bobby Wagner, who tackled him. 632 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: And this is why I would, you know, if I 633 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: were giving legal advice, I would tell players not to 634 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: tackle the guys running on the field unless they get 635 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: approached than they feel like they're actually in danger themselves. 636 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: But that was crazy, and I think it's becoming even 637 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: more encouraged because it goes on the Internet and the 638 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: name becomes even more pronounced because even if television doesn't 639 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: show you, the internet of it being viral gets more attention. 640 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: And frankly, the fact that he was laid out by 641 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: a football player made that actually a bigger story than 642 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: it otherwise would have been if he just gotten tackled 643 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: by a security Do we even know what the animal 644 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: rights activists? What is this like anti fur trade or something. 645 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're you know, the one 646 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: person glued themselves to the basketball court or attempted to 647 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: do it. And I can't even keep up with what 648 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: these animal people want, but they decided that this is 649 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: the best way to get attention for whatever their political car. 650 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Your b ball skills, by the way you play little hoops, clay, 651 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: you gotta jump shot played. I was okay back in 652 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: the day. You know I played. It's funny you ask 653 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I played full court against twelve year olds with other 654 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: dads on Sunday because basketball season, you're you're you're Achilles, 655 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: you're Achilles. Tenant was saying out chee when all the 656 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: dads said when we finished, is if there's no injuries, 657 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: it's a successful game. Sure, full court. I haven't hadn't 658 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: right day used to have at my grammar school parents 659 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: versus coaches basketball game. There were tournacy there were broken legs, 660 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: there were achilles snapping. Gotta make sure you warm up, folks. 661 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: You get to you get to be Clay's age and things. 662 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: Ten starts with falling part. I was just happy not 663 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: to get injured. I'm not gonna lie. We did a 664 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: big whiffleball game, same thing. The kids were striking us 665 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: out like crazy, but nobody was injured.