WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: You're Unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth podcast. You're unbelievable. Addition, as we look

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<v Speaker 1>back at an astonishing performance by Baltimore quarterback Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ravens forty nine to thirteen win over the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays,

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<v Speaker 1>locker room comments, and Dave lapp them will join me

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<v Speaker 1>for postgame analysis. Plus, in this week's fun Facts Conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll meet the person under the pads as I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Mount Wren. That's Bengals rookie Renell Wren. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that you can have the latest edition of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since unusual bobbleheads. This Saturday, you

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<v Speaker 1>See football fans got their hands on the Tony Pike

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<v Speaker 1>to armand Bin's bobble head, which celebrates one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest moments in you See football history, the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>game winning touchdown pass that gave the Bearcats a forty

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<v Speaker 1>five to forty four come from behind win at pitt

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<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand and nine to complete a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. It's a really cool bobble head. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just saying that because it includes an audio chip

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<v Speaker 1>combining my radio play by play with the TV call

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<v Speaker 1>of ESPN Sean McDonough. Here's my idea for a great

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals bobble head, and maybe somebody can do this for charity.

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<v Speaker 1>Picture Sam White in a big parka and a winner hat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his playsheet in his left hand and a

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<v Speaker 1>microphone in his right. You press the audio button, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's Sam say the following. Well, the next person that

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<v Speaker 1>sees anybody throw anything onto this field, point them out

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<v Speaker 1>and get him out of here. You don't live in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>you live in Cincinnati. Now, that would be a great bobblehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to football. Heading into Sunday's game, Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>was on a pace to shatter the NFL record for

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards in a season by a quarterback. Michael Vick

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<v Speaker 1>holds the record with one thirty nine yards. Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>on a pace to top that by more than two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no surprise to the Bengals. In two previous starts

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<v Speaker 1>against Cincinnati, Jackson had rushed for one hundred nineteen yards

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<v Speaker 1>in the first game and a buck fifty two in

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<v Speaker 1>the second, so at the start of Sunday's game, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense was geared up to stop the run. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens opened the game in a pistol formation former Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy winner Lamar Jackson with another former Heisman Trophy winner

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<v Speaker 1>mark Ingram behind him. Jackson looking to throw, he fires

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<v Speaker 1>deep down the middle of the field over the shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>catch made at the Cincinnati thirty yard line. Jick antick

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<v Speaker 1>play to begin the game, as Hollywood Brown used his

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<v Speaker 1>blazing speed to get behind the Bengals secondary for a

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine yard game. Baltimore's opening drive consisted of five plays,

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<v Speaker 1>a Lamar Jackson run that lost one yard and five

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<v Speaker 1>passes that gained seventy six. I formation backfield on third

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<v Speaker 1>and goal from the two, Jackson fakes a handoff, throws

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<v Speaker 1>and it is caught at the goal line for a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown by Mark Andrews. Here's Sam Hubbard on the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>coming out throwing. They have the number one rushing attack

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. You know, we anticipated them running, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to run the ball down our throats, and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they came out and did a great job passing the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Lamar Jackson can obviously run it, and showed

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<v Speaker 1>he can throw the ball too, So credit to them.

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<v Speaker 1>That really puts you in a bund, doesn't it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no way to stop the run unless you

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<v Speaker 1>are loading up to try to defend it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he showed his passing ability. Yeah. Plus he had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of run play options and play action passes, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're first thing you gotta do is, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, stop the run. But they did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of, you know, having the passing attack off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The second time the Ravens got the ball, they went

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground game. A twelve play drive consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>ten running plays, but the big play on the drive

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<v Speaker 1>was another Lamar Jackson pass. Jackson, with all data throw

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<v Speaker 1>hips a fastball to boil, breaks a tackle, charges toward

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone and gets tackled at the one yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates gambled and lost lost badly. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse after the game. Is Jackson better as a passer

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<v Speaker 1>than people give him credit for. Oh absolutely. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>played against him in college for I mean my whole

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<v Speaker 1>career there, so um, you know, I've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with Lamar playing against them, So I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>sling it for years, and I've seen him run it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just don't see a lot of running quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he runs, everybody just thinks of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's very dynamic once you get him, Moss

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<v Speaker 1>on the pocket to own the ball. The thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard passed to Nick Boyle led to a one yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown run by Mark Ingram and Baltimore led fourteen nothing

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first quarter. A Randy Bullock

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<v Speaker 1>field goal put the Bengals on the scoreboard early in

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<v Speaker 1>the second. Then Jackson went right back to work. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end, Hayden Hurst motions from left to right.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson fakes an inside handoff, throws toward the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Andrews is wide open for a Baltimore touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty one to three Baltimore, and at that

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<v Speaker 1>point Lamar Jackson was ten for ten for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy one yards with two touchdowns and no picks.

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<v Speaker 1>That was impossible for Ryan Finley to match in his

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<v Speaker 1>first NFL start, but the Bengals were able to move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball thanks to Joe Mixon. Finley hands it to

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon and he charges for the first down. Boy, he

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<v Speaker 1>hit the aligne of scrimmageer. They had a steam and

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<v Speaker 1>forward progress took him to the Baltimore forty eight. He

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<v Speaker 1>took off like he's running a time forty yard dash.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he said, you know what I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run through the Great Wall of China. Flight need

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<v Speaker 1>to look like a drug bust with a battering ram oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon ran angry all afternoon, carrying a career high thirty

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<v Speaker 1>times for one hundred and fourteen yards against the NFL's

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<v Speaker 1>second best run defense, far and away his best game

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. That my teammates they killing on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they expect me to be a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent and available each and every snap. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know the opportunities that I get, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>try to make the most of them and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep them up. I Mean it's tough out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just gotta keep going. I mean, you see

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<v Speaker 1>what we could do um. Like I said, Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just only hope to, you know, keep building on the

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<v Speaker 1>performance and in the run game, and you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>available and going hard for my teammates. Now, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>pride in this stuff. And you know, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to win, man, and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to put on a team in the best position possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Mixon's hard running. He helped the Bengals drive

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<v Speaker 1>into the red zone where a touchdown was scored, but

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<v Speaker 1>not by Cincinnati. Finley drops straight back to throw looking forever,

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<v Speaker 1>intercepted Humphrey running it back and it looks like he'll

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<v Speaker 1>take it to the house. Make that Marcus Peters on

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<v Speaker 1>the run back and it's his second pick six as

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Baltimore Ravens. And man, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what. Ryan Finley got stroked. LJ. Ford put a

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<v Speaker 1>block on Ryan Finley. Oh Man, took him off his feet,

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed him on that return. It was an eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>yard return that made it twenty eight to three. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finley on his costly I NT that was just

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<v Speaker 1>a good play by Marcus Peters. Um kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>can't leave it, can't leave it on his back hip

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<v Speaker 1>like that and an inside um so, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's completely on me. I gotta I gotta take

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<v Speaker 1>that off the tape and then uh kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>ball security. You know, we talked about it, so um

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<v Speaker 1>ball securities at a premium. To his credit, Finley bounced

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<v Speaker 1>right back and drove the Bengals seventy yards for their

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<v Speaker 1>first TD. Finley waiting for a shotgun snap back at

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven yard line, Hopkins fires it back. Finley throws

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone for Eiffert. He leaps, he comes

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<v Speaker 1>down with the ball, touchdown Bengals as he used his

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<v Speaker 1>size to go up and over Brandon car and haul

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<v Speaker 1>in Ryan Finley's first career touchdown pass. Finley finished sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty for one hundred and sixty seven yards with

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<v Speaker 1>a passer rating of sixty six point nine. His only

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<v Speaker 1>interception was followed immediately by his only touchdown. Bad plays

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna happen. That's about as bad as it gets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on a good drive, about to go score

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<v Speaker 1>and pick six. But you know, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>You got you gotta bounce back, you know, lead touchdown drives.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a twenty eight to ten game at the half.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time the Ravens got the ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter, Jackson provided a highlight that few quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>history can match. Second down in three, Jackson fakes a handoff,

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<v Speaker 1>runs to the left. Here he goes. He's to the

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<v Speaker 1>forty great spinbove to the thirty twenty five twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>ten five touchdown. What a run by Lamar Jackson. As

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<v Speaker 1>good as it gets in the National Football League. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what. He had two of the tightest spins,

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<v Speaker 1>like a whirling dervish. That forty seven yard sprint made

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<v Speaker 1>it thirty five to ten. Here's Sam Hubbard. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he solidified his you know himself in the

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<v Speaker 1>MVP race. And you know there's a reason for it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the most dynamic electric players in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jackson wasn't finished. Baltimore has it. At the Cincinnati twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens go with an empty backfield in five wides.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati sends a blitz Jackson throws before getting hit. It

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<v Speaker 1>is caught in the end zone by Hollywood Brown for

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<v Speaker 1>another Lamar Jackson touchdown pass and Lamar third of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson finished fifteen for seventeen for two hundred twenty three yards,

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<v Speaker 1>with three touchdowns, no picks, and a perfect passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>of one fifty eight point three. It's the second time

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<v Speaker 1>he's done that this year, making Lamar Jackson the first

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in NFL history to have two perfect passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>games in the same season. Safety Shawn Williams did not

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<v Speaker 1>hold back with his praise for Jackson after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>How hard is it to defend Lamar when you gear

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<v Speaker 1>up to stop the run and then he comes out

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<v Speaker 1>winging it around at the beginning of the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't gonna say it's impossible, but it's not. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>damn impossible. I mean it's hard. I mean he's hot

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<v Speaker 1>right now, man, I mean he is who is probo

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<v Speaker 1>all pro MVP. He's a cannont fall of it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. Is he a better thrower than most people realize? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to throw that he made on their for

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<v Speaker 1>sideline to the Titan eighty one, I'm standing right then.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he threw it at such an angle and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Holy how did he complete that? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how he completed it. But he did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at even the one he completed the jets on Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought he threw the ball underhanded? Did he

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<v Speaker 1>side art? Yeah? I mean like I called the last

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<v Speaker 1>glints and I'm like, holy yeah. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the running throughout that forty seven yard running had whether

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<v Speaker 1>a tight spin move that's about as good as it

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<v Speaker 1>gets for running back, much less than a quarterback. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you were just talking about the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>like you haven't even like gotten to like mark Ingram

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<v Speaker 1>and how he can like what he could do. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they have multiple as multiple threats could get.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what to tell you how to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. I hete anyone that knows how to stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear the respect in your voice. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a grudging hey, right now, it's almost impossible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I mean, like COSI like that team might

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<v Speaker 1>go to win the Super Bowl, go to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, like I said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to stop it. They're hot, they have probably like

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP quarterback. I don't know, so when their fans

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<v Speaker 1>are chanting MVP, you're thinking, yeah, you're right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he got my vote for he got my vote vote definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's definitely the best that I've faced this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And hats off to him and what they're doing over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know when he can do that and

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<v Speaker 1>put up those points and look at the defense, look

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<v Speaker 1>at what the defense can do. When you playing with

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty point thirty point lead, you just tee off,

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<v Speaker 1>you blitz and you you you get more confident. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing to lose at that point. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you see Earl making the plays, um car and making

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<v Speaker 1>the plays and just the rest of them. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's the other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are working on you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, but are you excited to see Joe have

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of game that he had today? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not only Joe was, just the other eleven, include other

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<v Speaker 1>ten including Joe. Like nobody's quitting, nobody's surrendering, nobody's nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>giving up. Like you're still pushing forward, you're still winning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll try trying to win your one on one matchup,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to win a football game. So that M proud

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<v Speaker 1>of even on defense, like we never never like quit later,

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<v Speaker 1>But no one tapped out. You still gotta play football.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like the last fourteen minutes the game. You

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<v Speaker 1>got tackle. You know that you're they're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get into personnels. They were winning personnel. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win a ball, So what are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>The game's final touchdown was scored by the Ravens defense

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun snap back to Finley retreats in trouble, Sack loses

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, scooped up and running it back for Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>is Tious Bowser and he'll run it into the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone for a Ravens touchdown. Boy. A fourth quarter field

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<v Speaker 1>goal by Randy Bullock made the final score forty nine thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are owing nine. They've tied a franchise record

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<v Speaker 1>by losing eleven consecutive games, and since the Dolphins and

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<v Speaker 1>Jets both won their second game of the season on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati's chances of having the number one pick in next

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<v Speaker 1>year's draft got a little bit stronger. The red Skins

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<v Speaker 1>have the second worst record in the NFL at one

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<v Speaker 1>and eight. After the game, Dave Lapham spent four minutes

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<v Speaker 1>with Zach Taylor. Obviously, you know, didn't unfold the way

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted it to. The two turnovers that that result

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<v Speaker 1>in touchdowns. I mean, you know, I talked with Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He knows, you know, it's got to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the football a little bit better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the positives, I say, you know, it didn't. The

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<v Speaker 1>kid doesn't seem like he gets rattled. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>went out there and had some good staffs for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but if he eliminates those, I thought in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>change and protection, seeing what he was supposed to see,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was pretty good. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of positives he had there, and then just the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>thing going forward is not making the same mistake twice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he threw a pick six against the corner

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<v Speaker 1>who he really identified cover zero, got us out of

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<v Speaker 1>a bad play, tried to get us to a check

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about, and you got Marks Peters just got

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<v Speaker 1>a history of doing that kind of stuff. He did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and credit to him, he made the play. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things to be encouraged about from Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought his preparation of the course of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>He really hasn't taken any reps over the last eight weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if we've got to get the reps this

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<v Speaker 1>week against one of the top defenses in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did a lot of really positive things and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something we got to build on going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you sprinting down the sideline looking like you

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to call a time out. Was it just

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<v Speaker 1>the play clock winding down or did you see something

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like or well it was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>tough look. He was getting this, so a check we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about and again I was concerned that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run out of time there, so I was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>call time out. But they made a play there. In hindsight,

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<v Speaker 1>man with the official hood, did he not grant it

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<v Speaker 1>or just trust me, there's a lot of things in

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<v Speaker 1>hindsight that you wish you'd gone differently, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to move on to the next

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<v Speaker 1>play and not like you tend to get not not

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<v Speaker 1>focused on what could have just happened there, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. They made a play. We got to move

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<v Speaker 1>on and respond. When I thought the next drive we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We went down and scored a touchdown and ate up

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<v Speaker 1>all the clock before the half. We were gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball back down twenty eight to ten, and again

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<v Speaker 1>we just had to turn it run downs. They were

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<v Speaker 1>start the half running game two weeks in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Rams out rush, the Rams out rush this

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<v Speaker 1>football team. I thought you made a good little adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>with the blocking scheme and the three technique. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody about it, but doubling that three technique and

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<v Speaker 1>then pulling the center around you guys got some mileage

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<v Speaker 1>out of that. Joe read that out pretty well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Jim Turner did a great job with the

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the last two weeks, putting us in position

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get the running game going. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen all season that we were we were close,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and nobody wants to hear that, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>known it and believed it, and so the last two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks it started to pay off and we know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're trending in the right direction there. I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>can you say about Lamar Jackson. I mean, he'll he'll

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<v Speaker 1>douge you with his feet and then he today had

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect quarterback rading mean, the kid, the kids playing

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<v Speaker 1>some ball, he's special. He's playing with a lot of confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>The team's playing with a lot of confidence. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to make some of the little mistakes we made

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<v Speaker 1>there in the second third quarter that that really put

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<v Speaker 1>us out of it against the team that's playing like

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. And he's dynamic and all we interest

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<v Speaker 1>see what people do try to stop him the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. When he runs the football, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sanders. You know, my pregame was like, don't let

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<v Speaker 1>him write he's the Barry Sanders of running quarterbacks. Make

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<v Speaker 1>him throw it. Man, I eat my words, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the dude can throw it. He did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's and those guys, those guys play well for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of those tight ends made some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>impressious bust of catches I've seen all season. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he really is just elevating the players around him, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting the best from all those guys. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a team that we can't make the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>we made against if we want a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That run that he had for a touchdown when he

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<v Speaker 1>had the tight spin, I mean, man, that's gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>a video game thing right there. It is. It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to be cleaner tackling. There was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>examples and some of those touchdown runs where we got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a better job of of, you know, wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>up and driving our feet and winning those fifty fifty

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<v Speaker 1>tackling battles, and we just didn't get it done today.

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<v Speaker 1>The way the running game is starting to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get unlocked a little bit though. With a young quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>it's any quarterbacks best friend. With a young quarterback, it's

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<v Speaker 1>his best best friend, right it is. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's something we got to continue to harp on and

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<v Speaker 1>find ways to be creative and increase some opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and build the play actions and the nakeds off

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. But step in the right direction of

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<v Speaker 1>that regard. Let's good to see Tyler Eiffort get a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown reception that was you know, he's a mismatch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tough. He's tough in the red zone. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it was a great ball, great ball

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<v Speaker 1>by Ryan first of all, and a great catch by

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler and he got two feet in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we needed that at the point of the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped up defense coach. I mean it was in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter of their averaging ten yards of play

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd only got into third down like three times.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were so productive on first and second down.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just is a matter of better tackling? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a matter of being in the right gap? Is

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of everything? What is it? You know that

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<v Speaker 1>there were some examples of tackling. There's some examples with

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in there. We're in a position to make

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<v Speaker 1>a play. It's it's one on one. You got that

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<v Speaker 1>guy in man coverage. You gotta step up and make

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<v Speaker 1>the play. And they didn't. We didn't, And that's really

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<v Speaker 1>what it came down to in a lot of examples.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for postgame analysis, and we start by discussing

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson. His passer rating for this season is up

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<v Speaker 1>to one on one point seven. He's on a pace

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<v Speaker 1>to run for one thousand, two hundred and forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>yards and in his first sixteen starts for Baltimore, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens are thirteen and three, including three and oz against Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>He is his own video game. He is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in college, he was a man amongst boys in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>For him to make it man amongst boys. He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>what he did in college. It's it's unbelievably. He won

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<v Speaker 1>the Heisman college and tracking to be a strong MVP candidate, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made meet my words, you know, I said

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<v Speaker 1>in the pregame, he's Barry Sanders running it. Make him

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<v Speaker 1>throw it, perfect quarterback rating three touchdown passes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he had, he had two incompletions and like you said

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<v Speaker 1>a few times during the game, one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>a spike to stop the clock. Unbelievable and the one

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<v Speaker 1>that the other one that fell incomplete, he gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. It was a perfect ball. And he's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>from different arm angles. He's slotting his arm differently. He is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a freakazoid. And you know everybody's saying, is he

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<v Speaker 1>changing how they're going to run offense in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 1>Find another one like him? He's not. He's not one

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<v Speaker 1>in a decade, He's one in a millennium. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy is like he's he's good a runner of

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<v Speaker 1>the football quarterback I've seen, and he's proven himself to

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<v Speaker 1>be way better than everts thrown. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are happy they don't have to see him again

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<v Speaker 1>this year, no question. I mean the first time they

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<v Speaker 1>saw him he went for one hundred and fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm thinking, don't let him be Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders again. Make him play quarterback all he does and

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<v Speaker 1>next time they see him as he pitches of one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight point three, he no. You know, perfect game,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom stevers Um, I mean, it's like, what can't this

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<v Speaker 1>guy do? So? And Greg Roman got to tip my

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>cap to him. Even in the passing game, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>very simple. Utilizing the tight ends is tight ends made

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<v Speaker 1>great plays for him. You know, he's got Hollywood Brown

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<v Speaker 1>to make the speed plays. He's got the big tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends that are control in the middle of the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean play action. When they run play action, it

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<v Speaker 1>is legit because they can hurt just so bad running

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<v Speaker 1>the football. You have to respect it. And there's huge

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<v Speaker 1>cavities between linebackers and safeties and man and Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan He's can throw you know, the Quisonberry. He can

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<v Speaker 1>throw over the top, he can throw anywhere he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to throw it. He changes his arms, slaughter his arm angle,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very very special, very unique guy. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>question the Ravens where the number one running team in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL coming into the game. So Baltimore on the

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<v Speaker 1>opening drive begins with a forty nine yard pass. They

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<v Speaker 1>had seventy five yards to score a touchdown on their

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<v Speaker 1>first drive. Seventy six passing minus one rushing. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to load up the defense to stop the run, and

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<v Speaker 1>that gives Lamar Jackson wide open targets. Great great call

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<v Speaker 1>by the by Greg Roman and the offensive staff to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go contrarian. We gashed him running the football. We

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<v Speaker 1>know they're going to crowd the line of scrimmage, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take away that running game. Let's just let's just

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<v Speaker 1>make them alter their game plan right away. Let's throw

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<v Speaker 1>it over their heads. Hollywood. Brian won, Hollywood. He went

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<v Speaker 1>over the top and Lamar Jackson layman out there for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's like, oh, you know, now what? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know then the defense comes up and with two

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways for touchdowns, so they outscored the Bengals defensively. Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>only had one touchdown in the day and they had two,

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<v Speaker 1>they scoring fourteen to ten. To compliment what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>without offense, So the Ravens right now are playing complimentary football.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing as well as anybody in the NFL right now,

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<v Speaker 1>a five game winning streak. And you know when they

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<v Speaker 1>go to Seattle and beat Seattle, they beat the Patriots

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night football at Baltimore. That's a legit football team.

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<v Speaker 1>Found out how legit. Today, Ryan Finley made his first

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 1>NFL start. He threw his first NFL touchdown, passed the

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Riifer. What were your overall impressions of his performance? Obviously,

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, some good, some very bad. You know, you

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>certainly don't want to throw the interception. Talk to Zack

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<v Speaker 1>in the postgame about it. He was frantically sprinting down

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the sideline trying to call a time out because the

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>play he thought to play clock was going to expire,

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and he said that they Finley made a check that

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>they had and he made the right check. Peters just

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>made a better play. And that's what a you know,

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:01.639
<v Speaker 1>a roll a bowl type cornerback will do, bait a

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit and break on it. And he made the

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<v Speaker 1>play on him. And and then ball security in the pocket,

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, is going to be something that he's gonna

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>have to learn. And the key is don't repeat those mistakes,

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, learn from him. And talking to Ryan in

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the locker room after the game, you know, he said, man,

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw and learned a lot today in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not just audibilizing out of one play to another,

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but one protection to another, because Baltimore does so much

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and they change things, you know, during the course of

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>your cadency. Even so, Trey Hopkins was throwing a lot

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>of compliments at Ryan Finley. Ryan Finley throwing a lot

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of compliments at Trey Hopkins, you know, the way they

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.159
<v Speaker 1>handled all that part of it. So there was some

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>good and Ryan I thought, you know, game management for

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that part it was great. And then the other thing

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>is when you have a tragedy, how do you handle it?

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you assume the fetal position and roll over and

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>play dead the rest of the game. Where do you

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>do something about it? And after the first one, he

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>went on his touchdown drive and responded. So they moved

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>the ball. They just you know, to make more plays

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>again in the red zone. It was good to see

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Eifford catch a touchdown pass, but they have that

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>touchdown on the red zone. Other than that, they had

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>two red zone penetrations where they got nothing, they had

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to pick six and lost the ball on down. So

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to be more consistent. You know, thirty three percent,

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what they were coming in. That's last in the league.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>You might think it's hard to find a positive after

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>forty nine to thirteen loss, but there was one and

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>an obvious one on Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium, and

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that was the running of Joe Mixon. Thirty carries a

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>new career high one hundred fourteen yards, the first time

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>this year he's cracked a hundred. Yeah, our good friend

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Puts Hobson is going to be disappointed when the

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Bengals carry it thirty times. When more they're undefeated or whatever.

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>We not in this situation, not playing a team like

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals played today. The thing about Joe Mixon that

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>impressed me so much is how hard he ran every

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>single opportunity, even when they were down thirty. Joe's bringing it,

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know that's that's gonna pay dividends at some

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>point time, because you know his teammates notice that, and

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you know then he starts to one of the best

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>players in the team going as hard as he's going

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>all those things will raise the boat a little bit.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So Joe's got to keep that mindset, that mentality, can't

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>get frustrated, just has to, you know, get after it.

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And he was really good in the post game locker

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>room talking about it. You know, obviously he was disappointed,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's a winner. I mean, he hates losing football games.

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>He's probably lost more football games this year than he

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>ever lost in high school and college combined by a

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>long shot. So it's a it's a new learning experience

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>for him. But if he keeps running like he did,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and I thought the offensive line control the line of

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:42.959
<v Speaker 1>scrimmage as well as they have all season long as

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>well against a damn good defensive front. So those are

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>encouraging signs with the young quarterback trying to find his

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>way in the NFL. Next the road game in Oakland

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>against the five and four Raiders, and since the Chiefs

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>lost at Tennessee on Sunday, Oakland is only a half

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>game him out of first in the AFC West. Now

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>time for this week's fun Facts interview, where we get

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to know the person under the pads. This week, it's

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>a massive defensive lineman taken in the fourth round of

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>this year's draft. Time for some fun facts with defensive

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>lineman Ronell ren from Saint Louis, Missouri. You are the

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>son of a police officer. Correct, it's correct. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the lessons you got from your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, the biggest thing would just being a

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<v Speaker 1>discipline in the house. My father always told me to

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, never everybody always emphasized on like nothing goes

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.199
<v Speaker 1>on past twelve o'clock midnight. So being able to have

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>an understanding, getting my schoolwork done, playing football and then

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>coming home and everything and just starting the day back up.

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a blessing to have a father in

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>my life still to this day. So discipline is the

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing. So basically I had to emphasize on I'd

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>rather be taught in the house and be disciplined in

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>how to being disciplined on the streets. We're visiting with

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<v Speaker 1>Renelle Ran. You're a big man. Were you always the

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.959
<v Speaker 1>big kid in the neighborhood? I was always the big

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 1>kid in neighborhood. I really hit my grossper doing high school, Yes, sir.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>In youth sports, did the parents if the opposing players

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>wonder if you were older than their kid. You know

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>what the crazy thing is, They never came to me

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>knowing or asking if I was like older than like

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the other people and everything. They just knew because of

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>my side, they knew something wasn't right. But you know,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very blessed to what I have and everything, and

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just uses that towards a football field and everything. So

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>what were your other interests as you're growing up? Oh? Really?

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I was a basketball player first, so I played basketball

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was seven years old, played ever since then.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't start football until my junior in high school.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>So my coach told me, I can't do both in college,

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>so you rather do basketball football. And I feel like

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I was better at football because I couldn't jibb or

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>shoot the ball to save my life. So I just

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>stick to this sport and then look where it got me. Hey,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>there's room and a basketball team though for a guy

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that plays defense and grabs rebounds, now you ain't you

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't lying, But somebody in my side being six four

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>back then when I was two fifteen, two twenty, you know,

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>they usually drove the ball up to court. I was

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>just a postman and doing my thing down there. So

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the game change, I gained a lot more weight, So

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm in an interior and I'm in the trenches.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts with Ronell rand. You attended Lutheran

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>North High School in the Saint Louis area. Did you

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>take the school work seriously at that age? I really did. Um,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I didn't take my grade serious until

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I started getting recruited for football my junior and senior year,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So I really had to stay in the books, and

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I really had to be the teacher's pet

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to receive the grades that I wanted if I still

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>worked hard for it. And then, thank god, I landed

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Arizona State the D one Scholarship and it led me here.

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So all right, So you mentioned Arizona State. You were

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the top ranked defensive lineman in Missouri as a high

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>school senior. The Midwestern schools came calling. The University of

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati apparently tried, But you did choose Arizona stage why,

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean really, Um, when I first took my official

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>visit there, it was just paradise. Um. I forgot who

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they played, but I remember back and I think it

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was twenty thirteen when I was a senior twenty fourteen.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a senior in high school. They played some team,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>but once I got there, it was like a some

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>degrees in November or December. The hotel was lovely, The

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>campus was big and wide, and once I actually got

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>there and committed there and everything and started playing it

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>barely rained there. It was just paradise sun out. Um,

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>not wendy, not chill or cold or anything, but it

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>was just hot and just warm and everything. That's the

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>environment I wanted to be in. So then coming back

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>here to Cincinnati, you know, it's a whole different climate change,

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>so I got to adjust to that. But I'm from

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Missouri though, so I'm used to it. So just being

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>just getting back to the flow and everything. We're talking

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to Ronell Ran. During your college career, there was a

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>coaching change and former NFL head coach Term Words took over.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Was that a big surprise to the guys on the team? Really?

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>The crazy thing is the whole People don't judge me

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>for this, but I did not know who Herm Edwards

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>was until he got there. But he definitely did change

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the program around. Um. I really missed the old head

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>coach that used to be there, but you know, at

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, it's a business change and

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Herm Edwards definitely came in there and did what he

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>had to do and he's actually doing great then what

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>we did last season, and I just suspect him for

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the best and for my teammates. Back to the issue,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>So when he first got there, um, you play his Uh,

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>he emphasizes when you played to win the game. So

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he did this thing to players towards if you're not

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.239
<v Speaker 1>doing your job, you'll just be on an academic scholarship. Um,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you sit on the sidelines or sitting the um you know,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the seats where everybody else said had to watch the game.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But he treat he treated us like a pro. So basically, um,

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not doing your thing. The next man up. It's

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting to hear that he emphasized you play to win

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the game, because he had that famous speech when he

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was the head coach of the New York Jets. He

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>stood up in front of the meeting he said, you

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>play to win the game. So he still does that nowadays.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>He still does that. Now, yes, sir, you're a team

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>captain your senior year. What did that mean? Man? I

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was really surprised because knowing when I my freshman year there,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to look after the veterans and all that,

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't like I set the example but not

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>quite the example as I wanted to until I hit

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>my senior year. So being able to have that blessing

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>for the student athletes to vote me to be a

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>captain and just took me to the higher standard to

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>know that the things I used to do I couldn't

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>do and they're gonna lead off my example, not just

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on the field, but off the field. Off the field

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>is very important because they want to not for not

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>people being judgmental, whatever, but you have to set the standard.

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>You have to do what you gotta do or to

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, improve and how the people fall behind your

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>footsteps so they can improve as well. Once you leave

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>out that stadium. After a fine career in the Arizona State,

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>you got invited to the Senior Bowl in the NFL combine.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>How big of a deal were those opportunities for you? Oh,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that was a huge deal. It's a blessing to go

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to both the recent Senior Bowl. It taught me a

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>lot about discipline and you know, getting up really because

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't like gotten up there early in such a

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>long time, and just being able to, you know, present

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself for a job. You know, it's all about interviewing

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and everything because I never had a job until I

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>got here and everything. So just being able to know that,

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're in the business world now and you

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>got to do your thing because if you don't, they're

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna find somebody else, and you know, life moves on.

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals drafted you in the fourth round. Describe your

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>draft experience. Man, Man, it was great sending at home,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, having people texting me saying, you're gonna go

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>this round. You're gonna go this round. Like, man, just

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>relax the butterflies the whole time. UM got selected Day

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>three with the Cincinnati Bengals. Um, It's definitely a blessing,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm still working towards I'm still working to this day,

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just grateful to have the opportunity to UM

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>be in the NFL. And I just pray that I

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>can just continue to be in this league for a

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>very long time and instead of standard and lead and

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>just and just do everything I can to you know,

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>set myself to UM a successful life. After the game,

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<v Speaker 1>of football. A few more fun facts with Renell Wren.

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<v Speaker 1>After the Bengal selected you defensive line, coach Nikkiason referred

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<v Speaker 1>to you as Mount R. Do you like the nickname? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I love the nickname. I love the nickname. Just um

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing my frame and just knew and just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what I was capable of doing, and um the football

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<v Speaker 1>field gets with Arizona State. They just knew, knew that

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<v Speaker 1>I was just that big person that could just um

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<v Speaker 1>collapse the pocket and just just stuff the run and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm doing I'm doing very well over here other

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<v Speaker 1>than playing football. What are you good at? Man? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>See the crazy thing gets uh at the football practice

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<v Speaker 1>and games and all that. I really just go home,

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<v Speaker 1>play with my dog at a blue nose pit and

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<v Speaker 1>just playing a pis for the video games and all

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<v Speaker 1>that and just relax on the flip side. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>you terrible at singing? I try to sing while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the shower and everything. You know, try to vent

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<v Speaker 1>to myself. We all sound good in the shower, though

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<v Speaker 1>we all exactly to ourselves. Multitasks. I try to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that, but now I don't texting job,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't try I try not to texting, job and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>so being responsible right there. But yeah, where do you

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<v Speaker 1>like to spend your money on? That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I love to save. I love to save. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest thing right now is food. Um. Other than

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<v Speaker 1>that receiving like the payments that I get from the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengas Organization. I just saved that up and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>continue to take a day at the day and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I only to spend, only spend money on anything for real.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really just saying for the all season, take a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of trips and then how did that get back

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<v Speaker 1>to work into training? All that? Your folks should be

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<v Speaker 1>proud to hear that. I'm sure if you could meet

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in history, athlete, politician, religious figure, who would that

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<v Speaker 1>person be. Two people I would love to meet T. D. Jakes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pastor down to Texas and Jolos thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>runs a big church down there in Texas too. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very strong believer in Christ and I would just

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<v Speaker 1>love to meet them and have them to pray over me.

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<v Speaker 1>And just being able to have that, not to have

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<v Speaker 1>that platform as if I'm like the big person. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>should look at me now but just being able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, spread spread the gospel and to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>do what I do to glorify God and everything I do.

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<v Speaker 1>The final thing, as I mentioned at the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from Saint Louis Dideff. Go up in the arch.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I went up there three times. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about lifetime so far. Did you fit in that little

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<v Speaker 1>car that they take you up here? I did the

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<v Speaker 1>past two times. This third time I went, I took

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend and my mom and my sister and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I barely fit. What we've got, the job done outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed this. Welcome to Cincinnati. Thanks for the time. Yes, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. That's Renell Wren. Here's a quick invitation to

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