Speaker 1: Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: back at an astonishing performance by Baltimore quarterback Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: in the Ravens forty nine to thirteen win over the
Speaker 1: Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays,
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Speaker 1: Let's get to football. Heading into Sunday's game, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: was on a pace to shatter the NFL record for
Speaker 1: rushing yards in a season by a quarterback. Michael Vick
Speaker 1: holds the record with one thirty nine yards. Jackson was
Speaker 1: on a pace to top that by more than two hundred.
Speaker 1: That's no surprise to the Bengals. In two previous starts
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, Jackson had rushed for one hundred nineteen yards
Speaker 1: in the first game and a buck fifty two in
Speaker 1: the second, so at the start of Sunday's game, the
Speaker 1: Bengals defense was geared up to stop the run. The
Speaker 1: Ravens opened the game in a pistol formation former Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner Lamar Jackson with another former Heisman Trophy winner
Speaker 1: mark Ingram behind him. Jackson looking to throw, he fires
Speaker 1: deep down the middle of the field over the shoulder
Speaker 1: catch made at the Cincinnati thirty yard line. Jick antick
Speaker 1: play to begin the game, as Hollywood Brown used his
Speaker 1: blazing speed to get behind the Bengals secondary for a
Speaker 1: forty nine yard game. Baltimore's opening drive consisted of five plays,
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson run that lost one yard and five
Speaker 1: passes that gained seventy six. I formation backfield on third
Speaker 1: and goal from the two, Jackson fakes a handoff, throws
Speaker 1: and it is caught at the goal line for a
Speaker 1: touchdown by Mark Andrews. Here's Sam Hubbard on the Ravens
Speaker 1: coming out throwing. They have the number one rushing attack
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, we anticipated them running, trying
Speaker 1: to run the ball down our throats, and they, you know,
Speaker 1: they came out and did a great job passing the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, Lamar Jackson can obviously run it, and showed
Speaker 1: he can throw the ball too, So credit to them.
Speaker 1: That really puts you in a bund, doesn't it. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's no way to stop the run unless you
Speaker 1: are loading up to try to defend it. And then
Speaker 1: he showed his passing ability. Yeah. Plus he had a
Speaker 1: lot of run play options and play action passes, which
Speaker 1: you know, we're first thing you gotta do is, like
Speaker 1: you said, stop the run. But they did a great
Speaker 1: job of, you know, having the passing attack off of it.
Speaker 1: The second time the Ravens got the ball, they went
Speaker 1: to the ground game. A twelve play drive consisted of
Speaker 1: ten running plays, but the big play on the drive
Speaker 1: was another Lamar Jackson pass. Jackson, with all data throw
Speaker 1: hips a fastball to boil, breaks a tackle, charges toward
Speaker 1: the end zone and gets tackled at the one yard line.
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates gambled and lost lost badly. I talked to
Speaker 1: Jesse after the game. Is Jackson better as a passer
Speaker 1: than people give him credit for. Oh absolutely. Um. I
Speaker 1: played against him in college for I mean my whole
Speaker 1: career there, so um, you know, I've got a little
Speaker 1: familiar with Lamar playing against them, So I've seen him
Speaker 1: sling it for years, and I've seen him run it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't see a lot of running quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and when he runs, everybody just thinks of that. So
Speaker 1: I think he's very dynamic once you get him, Moss
Speaker 1: on the pocket to own the ball. The thirty five
Speaker 1: yard passed to Nick Boyle led to a one yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run by Mark Ingram and Baltimore led fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter. A Randy Bullock
Speaker 1: field goal put the Bengals on the scoreboard early in
Speaker 1: the second. Then Jackson went right back to work. Now
Speaker 1: the tight end, Hayden Hurst motions from left to right.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson fakes an inside handoff, throws toward the end zone,
Speaker 1: and Mark Andrews is wide open for a Baltimore touchdown.
Speaker 1: It was twenty one to three Baltimore, and at that
Speaker 1: point Lamar Jackson was ten for ten for one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one yards with two touchdowns and no picks.
Speaker 1: That was impossible for Ryan Finley to match in his
Speaker 1: first NFL start, but the Bengals were able to move
Speaker 1: the ball thanks to Joe Mixon. Finley hands it to
Speaker 1: Mixon and he charges for the first down. Boy, he
Speaker 1: hit the aligne of scrimmageer. They had a steam and
Speaker 1: forward progress took him to the Baltimore forty eight. He
Speaker 1: took off like he's running a time forty yard dash.
Speaker 1: I mean, he said, you know what I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run through the Great Wall of China. Flight need
Speaker 1: to look like a drug bust with a battering ram oh.
Speaker 1: Mixon ran angry all afternoon, carrying a career high thirty
Speaker 1: times for one hundred and fourteen yards against the NFL's
Speaker 1: second best run defense, far and away his best game
Speaker 1: of the year. That my teammates they killing on me,
Speaker 1: and you know, they expect me to be a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent and available each and every snap. And you
Speaker 1: know the opportunities that I get, you know, I just
Speaker 1: try to make the most of them and you know,
Speaker 1: try to keep them up. I Mean it's tough out there,
Speaker 1: but I just gotta keep going. I mean, you see
Speaker 1: what we could do um. Like I said, Man, I
Speaker 1: just only hope to, you know, keep building on the
Speaker 1: performance and in the run game, and you know, being
Speaker 1: available and going hard for my teammates. Now, I'll take
Speaker 1: pride in this stuff. And you know, I just you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to win, man, and I just want
Speaker 1: to put on a team in the best position possible.
Speaker 1: That's it. Mixon's hard running. He helped the Bengals drive
Speaker 1: into the red zone where a touchdown was scored, but
Speaker 1: not by Cincinnati. Finley drops straight back to throw looking forever,
Speaker 1: intercepted Humphrey running it back and it looks like he'll
Speaker 1: take it to the house. Make that Marcus Peters on
Speaker 1: the run back and it's his second pick six as
Speaker 1: a member of the Baltimore Ravens. And man, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Ryan Finley got stroked. LJ. Ford put a
Speaker 1: block on Ryan Finley. Oh Man, took him off his feet,
Speaker 1: destroyed him on that return. It was an eighty nine
Speaker 1: yard return that made it twenty eight to three. Here's
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley on his costly I NT that was just
Speaker 1: a good play by Marcus Peters. Um kind of just
Speaker 1: can't leave it, can't leave it on his back hip
Speaker 1: like that and an inside um so, uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's that's completely on me. I gotta I gotta take
Speaker 1: that off the tape and then uh kind of just
Speaker 1: ball security. You know, we talked about it, so um
Speaker 1: ball securities at a premium. To his credit, Finley bounced
Speaker 1: right back and drove the Bengals seventy yards for their
Speaker 1: first TD. Finley waiting for a shotgun snap back at
Speaker 1: the eleven yard line, Hopkins fires it back. Finley throws
Speaker 1: into the end zone for Eiffert. He leaps, he comes
Speaker 1: down with the ball, touchdown Bengals as he used his
Speaker 1: size to go up and over Brandon car and haul
Speaker 1: in Ryan Finley's first career touchdown pass. Finley finished sixteen
Speaker 1: for thirty for one hundred and sixty seven yards with
Speaker 1: a passer rating of sixty six point nine. His only
Speaker 1: interception was followed immediately by his only touchdown. Bad plays
Speaker 1: are gonna happen. That's about as bad as it gets,
Speaker 1: you know, on a good drive, about to go score
Speaker 1: and pick six. But you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: You got you gotta bounce back, you know, lead touchdown drives.
Speaker 1: It was a twenty eight to ten game at the half.
Speaker 1: The first time the Ravens got the ball in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, Jackson provided a highlight that few quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: history can match. Second down in three, Jackson fakes a handoff,
Speaker 1: runs to the left. Here he goes. He's to the
Speaker 1: forty great spinbove to the thirty twenty five twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: ten five touchdown. What a run by Lamar Jackson. As
Speaker 1: good as it gets in the National Football League. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. He had two of the tightest spins,
Speaker 1: like a whirling dervish. That forty seven yard sprint made
Speaker 1: it thirty five to ten. Here's Sam Hubbard. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he solidified his you know himself in the
Speaker 1: MVP race. And you know there's a reason for it.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most dynamic electric players in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And Jackson wasn't finished. Baltimore has it. At the Cincinnati twenty.
Speaker 1: The Ravens go with an empty backfield in five wides.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati sends a blitz Jackson throws before getting hit. It
Speaker 1: is caught in the end zone by Hollywood Brown for
Speaker 1: another Lamar Jackson touchdown pass and Lamar third of the day.
Speaker 1: Jackson finished fifteen for seventeen for two hundred twenty three yards,
Speaker 1: with three touchdowns, no picks, and a perfect passer rating
Speaker 1: of one fifty eight point three. It's the second time
Speaker 1: he's done that this year, making Lamar Jackson the first
Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history to have two perfect passer rating
Speaker 1: games in the same season. Safety Shawn Williams did not
Speaker 1: hold back with his praise for Jackson after the game.
Speaker 1: How hard is it to defend Lamar when you gear
Speaker 1: up to stop the run and then he comes out
Speaker 1: winging it around at the beginning of the game. I
Speaker 1: don't gonna say it's impossible, but it's not. But it's
Speaker 1: damn impossible. I mean it's hard. I mean he's hot
Speaker 1: right now, man, I mean he is who is probo
Speaker 1: all pro MVP. He's a cannont fall of it. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: stop it. Is he a better thrower than most people realize? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I mean to throw that he made on their for
Speaker 1: sideline to the Titan eighty one, I'm standing right then.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he threw it at such an angle and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Holy how did he complete that? I don't
Speaker 1: know how he completed it. But he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at even the one he completed the jets on Jesse,
Speaker 1: Like I thought he threw the ball underhanded? Did he
Speaker 1: side art? Yeah? I mean like I called the last
Speaker 1: glints and I'm like, holy yeah. And then you have
Speaker 1: the running throughout that forty seven yard running had whether
Speaker 1: a tight spin move that's about as good as it
Speaker 1: gets for running back, much less than a quarterback. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you were just talking about the quarterback,
Speaker 1: like you haven't even like gotten to like mark Ingram
Speaker 1: and how he can like what he could do. So,
Speaker 1: I mean they have multiple as multiple threats could get.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what to tell you how to
Speaker 1: stop it. I hete anyone that knows how to stop it.
Speaker 1: I hear the respect in your voice. I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's a grudging hey, right now, it's almost impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, like COSI like that team might
Speaker 1: go to win the Super Bowl, go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to stop it. They're hot, they have probably like
Speaker 1: the MVP quarterback. I don't know, so when their fans
Speaker 1: are chanting MVP, you're thinking, yeah, you're right, I mean
Speaker 1: he got my vote for he got my vote vote definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean he's definitely the best that I've faced this year.
Speaker 1: And hats off to him and what they're doing over there,
Speaker 1: and and you know when he can do that and
Speaker 1: put up those points and look at the defense, look
Speaker 1: at what the defense can do. When you playing with
Speaker 1: a twenty point thirty point lead, you just tee off,
Speaker 1: you blitz and you you you get more confident. You've
Speaker 1: got nothing to lose at that point. So that's why
Speaker 1: you see Earl making the plays, um car and making
Speaker 1: the plays and just the rest of them. So that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I know you guys are working on you know, doing
Speaker 1: your thing, but are you excited to see Joe have
Speaker 1: the kind of game that he had today? I mean,
Speaker 1: not only Joe was, just the other eleven, include other
Speaker 1: ten including Joe. Like nobody's quitting, nobody's surrendering, nobody's nobody's
Speaker 1: giving up. Like you're still pushing forward, you're still winning.
Speaker 1: We'll try trying to win your one on one matchup,
Speaker 1: trying to win a football game. So that M proud
Speaker 1: of even on defense, like we never never like quit later,
Speaker 1: But no one tapped out. You still gotta play football.
Speaker 1: You gotta like the last fourteen minutes the game. You
Speaker 1: got tackle. You know that you're they're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get into personnels. They were winning personnel. They're
Speaker 1: gonna win a ball, So what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1: The game's final touchdown was scored by the Ravens defense
Speaker 1: shotgun snap back to Finley retreats in trouble, Sack loses
Speaker 1: the ball, scooped up and running it back for Baltimore
Speaker 1: is Tious Bowser and he'll run it into the end
Speaker 1: zone for a Ravens touchdown. Boy. A fourth quarter field
Speaker 1: goal by Randy Bullock made the final score forty nine thirteen.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are owing nine. They've tied a franchise record
Speaker 1: by losing eleven consecutive games, and since the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: Jets both won their second game of the season on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's chances of having the number one pick in next
Speaker 1: year's draft got a little bit stronger. The red Skins
Speaker 1: have the second worst record in the NFL at one
Speaker 1: and eight. After the game, Dave Lapham spent four minutes
Speaker 1: with Zach Taylor. Obviously, you know, didn't unfold the way
Speaker 1: you wanted it to. The two turnovers that that result
Speaker 1: in touchdowns. I mean, you know, I talked with Ryan
Speaker 1: about it. He knows, you know, it's got to take
Speaker 1: care of the football a little bit better than that.
Speaker 1: But the positives, I say, you know, it didn't. The
Speaker 1: kid doesn't seem like he gets rattled. I mean, he
Speaker 1: went out there and had some good staffs for you,
Speaker 1: but if he eliminates those, I thought in terms of
Speaker 1: change and protection, seeing what he was supposed to see,
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of positives he had there, and then just the biggest
Speaker 1: thing going forward is not making the same mistake twice.
Speaker 1: You know, he threw a pick six against the corner
Speaker 1: who he really identified cover zero, got us out of
Speaker 1: a bad play, tried to get us to a check
Speaker 1: we talked about, and you got Marks Peters just got
Speaker 1: a history of doing that kind of stuff. He did it,
Speaker 1: and credit to him, he made the play. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of things to be encouraged about from Ryan.
Speaker 1: I thought his preparation of the course of the week.
Speaker 1: He really hasn't taken any reps over the last eight weeks,
Speaker 1: and so if we've got to get the reps this
Speaker 1: week against one of the top defenses in the league,
Speaker 1: and he did a lot of really positive things and
Speaker 1: it's just something we got to build on going forward.
Speaker 1: I saw you sprinting down the sideline looking like you
Speaker 1: were trying to call a time out. Was it just
Speaker 1: the play clock winding down or did you see something
Speaker 1: you didn't like or well it was it was a
Speaker 1: tough look. He was getting this, so a check we
Speaker 1: talked about and again I was concerned that we're gonna
Speaker 1: run out of time there, so I was ready to
Speaker 1: call time out. But they made a play there. In hindsight,
Speaker 1: man with the official hood, did he not grant it
Speaker 1: or just trust me, there's a lot of things in
Speaker 1: hindsight that you wish you'd gone differently, and you just
Speaker 1: have to be able to move on to the next
Speaker 1: play and not like you tend to get not not
Speaker 1: focused on what could have just happened there, and it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. They made a play. We got to move
Speaker 1: on and respond. When I thought the next drive we did.
Speaker 1: We went down and scored a touchdown and ate up
Speaker 1: all the clock before the half. We were gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball back down twenty eight to ten, and again
Speaker 1: we just had to turn it run downs. They were
Speaker 1: start the half running game two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: You know, Rams out rush, the Rams out rush this
Speaker 1: football team. I thought you made a good little adjustment
Speaker 1: with the blocking scheme and the three technique. I've talked
Speaker 1: to everybody about it, but doubling that three technique and
Speaker 1: then pulling the center around you guys got some mileage
Speaker 1: out of that. Joe read that out pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought Jim Turner did a great job with the
Speaker 1: playing in the last two weeks, putting us in position
Speaker 1: to be able to get the running game going. And
Speaker 1: we've seen all season that we were we were close,
Speaker 1: you know, and nobody wants to hear that, but we've
Speaker 1: known it and believed it, and so the last two
Speaker 1: weeks it started to pay off and we know that
Speaker 1: we're trending in the right direction there. I guess what
Speaker 1: can you say about Lamar Jackson. I mean, he'll he'll
Speaker 1: douge you with his feet and then he today had
Speaker 1: a perfect quarterback rading mean, the kid, the kids playing
Speaker 1: some ball, he's special. He's playing with a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: The team's playing with a lot of confidence. You can't
Speaker 1: afford to make some of the little mistakes we made
Speaker 1: there in the second third quarter that that really put
Speaker 1: us out of it against the team that's playing like
Speaker 1: that right now. And he's dynamic and all we interest
Speaker 1: see what people do try to stop him the rest
Speaker 1: of the way. When he runs the football, he's like
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. You know, my pregame was like, don't let
Speaker 1: him write he's the Barry Sanders of running quarterbacks. Make
Speaker 1: him throw it. Man, I eat my words, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the dude can throw it. He did. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's and those guys, those guys play well for him.
Speaker 1: Some of those tight ends made some of the most
Speaker 1: impressious bust of catches I've seen all season. And so
Speaker 1: he really is just elevating the players around him, and
Speaker 1: you're getting the best from all those guys. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a team that we can't make the mistakes
Speaker 1: we made against if we want a chance to win.
Speaker 1: That run that he had for a touchdown when he
Speaker 1: had the tight spin, I mean, man, that's gonna that's
Speaker 1: a video game thing right there. It is. It's hard.
Speaker 1: We got to be cleaner tackling. There was a couple
Speaker 1: examples and some of those touchdown runs where we got
Speaker 1: to do a better job of of, you know, wrapping
Speaker 1: up and driving our feet and winning those fifty fifty
Speaker 1: tackling battles, and we just didn't get it done today.
Speaker 1: The way the running game is starting to, you know,
Speaker 1: get unlocked a little bit though. With a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: it's any quarterbacks best friend. With a young quarterback, it's
Speaker 1: his best best friend, right it is. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's something we got to continue to harp on and
Speaker 1: find ways to be creative and increase some opportunities for
Speaker 1: ourselves and build the play actions and the nakeds off
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But step in the right direction of
Speaker 1: that regard. Let's good to see Tyler Eiffort get a
Speaker 1: touchdown reception that was you know, he's a mismatch. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's tough. He's tough in the red zone. It is,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it was a great ball, great ball
Speaker 1: by Ryan first of all, and a great catch by
Speaker 1: Tyler and he got two feet in and you know,
Speaker 1: we needed that at the point of the game. So
Speaker 1: he stepped up defense coach. I mean it was in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of their averaging ten yards of play
Speaker 1: and they'd only got into third down like three times.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were so productive on first and second down.
Speaker 1: Is it just is a matter of better tackling? Is
Speaker 1: it a matter of being in the right gap? Is
Speaker 1: a matter of everything? What is it? You know that
Speaker 1: there were some examples of tackling. There's some examples with
Speaker 1: the ball in there. We're in a position to make
Speaker 1: a play. It's it's one on one. You got that
Speaker 1: guy in man coverage. You gotta step up and make
Speaker 1: the play. And they didn't. We didn't, And that's really
Speaker 1: what it came down to in a lot of examples.
Speaker 1: Now time for postgame analysis, and we start by discussing
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. His passer rating for this season is up
Speaker 1: to one on one point seven. He's on a pace
Speaker 1: to run for one thousand, two hundred and forty eight
Speaker 1: yards and in his first sixteen starts for Baltimore, the
Speaker 1: Ravens are thirteen and three, including three and oz against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: He is his own video game. He is, you know,
Speaker 1: in college, he was a man amongst boys in the NFL.
Speaker 1: For him to make it man amongst boys. He's doing
Speaker 1: what he did in college. It's it's unbelievably. He won
Speaker 1: the Heisman college and tracking to be a strong MVP candidate, obviously,
Speaker 1: and he made meet my words, you know, I said
Speaker 1: in the pregame, he's Barry Sanders running it. Make him
Speaker 1: throw it, perfect quarterback rating three touchdown passes, I mean
Speaker 1: he had, he had two incompletions and like you said
Speaker 1: a few times during the game, one of them was
Speaker 1: a spike to stop the clock. Unbelievable and the one
Speaker 1: that the other one that fell incomplete, he gave him
Speaker 1: a chance. It was a perfect ball. And he's throwing
Speaker 1: from different arm angles. He's slotting his arm differently. He is.
Speaker 1: He's a freakazoid. And you know everybody's saying, is he
Speaker 1: changing how they're going to run offense in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Find another one like him? He's not. He's not one
Speaker 1: in a decade, He's one in a millennium. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy is like he's he's good a runner of
Speaker 1: the football quarterback I've seen, and he's proven himself to
Speaker 1: be way better than everts thrown. And I think the
Speaker 1: Bengals are happy they don't have to see him again
Speaker 1: this year, no question. I mean the first time they
Speaker 1: saw him he went for one hundred and fifty two.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm thinking, don't let him be Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders again. Make him play quarterback all he does and
Speaker 1: next time they see him as he pitches of one
Speaker 1: fifty eight point three, he no. You know, perfect game,
Speaker 1: Tom stevers Um, I mean, it's like, what can't this
Speaker 1: guy do? So? And Greg Roman got to tip my
Speaker 1: cap to him. Even in the passing game, everything is
Speaker 1: very simple. Utilizing the tight ends is tight ends made
Speaker 1: great plays for him. You know, he's got Hollywood Brown
Speaker 1: to make the speed plays. He's got the big tight
Speaker 1: ends that are control in the middle of the football field.
Speaker 1: I mean play action. When they run play action, it
Speaker 1: is legit because they can hurt just so bad running
Speaker 1: the football. You have to respect it. And there's huge
Speaker 1: cavities between linebackers and safeties and man and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Dan He's can throw you know, the Quisonberry. He can
Speaker 1: throw over the top, he can throw anywhere he needs
Speaker 1: to throw it. He changes his arms, slaughter his arm angle,
Speaker 1: and he's very very special, very unique guy. There's no
Speaker 1: question the Ravens where the number one running team in
Speaker 1: the NFL coming into the game. So Baltimore on the
Speaker 1: opening drive begins with a forty nine yard pass. They
Speaker 1: had seventy five yards to score a touchdown on their
Speaker 1: first drive. Seventy six passing minus one rushing. You have
Speaker 1: to load up the defense to stop the run, and
Speaker 1: that gives Lamar Jackson wide open targets. Great great call
Speaker 1: by the by Greg Roman and the offensive staff to say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go contrarian. We gashed him running the football. We
Speaker 1: know they're going to crowd the line of scrimmage, they're
Speaker 1: gonna take away that running game. Let's just let's just
Speaker 1: make them alter their game plan right away. Let's throw
Speaker 1: it over their heads. Hollywood. Brian won, Hollywood. He went
Speaker 1: over the top and Lamar Jackson layman out there for him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, oh, you know, now what? And
Speaker 1: you know then the defense comes up and with two
Speaker 1: takeaways for touchdowns, so they outscored the Bengals defensively. Bengals
Speaker 1: only had one touchdown in the day and they had two,
Speaker 1: they scoring fourteen to ten. To compliment what's going on
Speaker 1: without offense, So the Ravens right now are playing complimentary football.
Speaker 1: They're playing as well as anybody in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: a five game winning streak. And you know when they
Speaker 1: go to Seattle and beat Seattle, they beat the Patriots
Speaker 1: on Sunday night football at Baltimore. That's a legit football team.
Speaker 1: Found out how legit. Today, Ryan Finley made his first
Speaker 1: NFL start. He threw his first NFL touchdown, passed the
Speaker 1: Tyler Riifer. What were your overall impressions of his performance? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, some good, some very bad. You know, you
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to throw the interception. Talk to Zack
Speaker 1: in the postgame about it. He was frantically sprinting down
Speaker 1: the sideline trying to call a time out because the
Speaker 1: play he thought to play clock was going to expire,
Speaker 1: and he said that they Finley made a check that
Speaker 1: they had and he made the right check. Peters just
Speaker 1: made a better play. And that's what a you know,
Speaker 1: a roll a bowl type cornerback will do, bait a
Speaker 1: little bit and break on it. And he made the
Speaker 1: play on him. And and then ball security in the pocket,
Speaker 1: you know, is going to be something that he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to learn. And the key is don't repeat those mistakes,
Speaker 1: you know, learn from him. And talking to Ryan in
Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, you know, he said, man,
Speaker 1: I saw and learned a lot today in terms of
Speaker 1: I mean not just audibilizing out of one play to another,
Speaker 1: but one protection to another, because Baltimore does so much
Speaker 1: and they change things, you know, during the course of
Speaker 1: your cadency. Even so, Trey Hopkins was throwing a lot
Speaker 1: of compliments at Ryan Finley. Ryan Finley throwing a lot
Speaker 1: of compliments at Trey Hopkins, you know, the way they
Speaker 1: handled all that part of it. So there was some
Speaker 1: good and Ryan I thought, you know, game management for
Speaker 1: that part it was great. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: is when you have a tragedy, how do you handle it?
Speaker 1: Do you assume the fetal position and roll over and
Speaker 1: play dead the rest of the game. Where do you
Speaker 1: do something about it? And after the first one, he
Speaker 1: went on his touchdown drive and responded. So they moved
Speaker 1: the ball. They just you know, to make more plays
Speaker 1: again in the red zone. It was good to see
Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford catch a touchdown pass, but they have that
Speaker 1: touchdown on the red zone. Other than that, they had
Speaker 1: two red zone penetrations where they got nothing, they had
Speaker 1: to pick six and lost the ball on down. So
Speaker 1: you have to be more consistent. You know, thirty three percent,
Speaker 1: that's what they were coming in. That's last in the league.
Speaker 1: You might think it's hard to find a positive after
Speaker 1: forty nine to thirteen loss, but there was one and
Speaker 1: an obvious one on Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium, and
Speaker 1: that was the running of Joe Mixon. Thirty carries a
Speaker 1: new career high one hundred fourteen yards, the first time
Speaker 1: this year he's cracked a hundred. Yeah, our good friend
Speaker 1: Jeff Puts Hobson is going to be disappointed when the
Speaker 1: Bengals carry it thirty times. When more they're undefeated or whatever.
Speaker 1: We not in this situation, not playing a team like
Speaker 1: the Bengals played today. The thing about Joe Mixon that
Speaker 1: impressed me so much is how hard he ran every
Speaker 1: single opportunity, even when they were down thirty. Joe's bringing it,
Speaker 1: and you know that's that's gonna pay dividends at some
Speaker 1: point time, because you know his teammates notice that, and
Speaker 1: you know then he starts to one of the best
Speaker 1: players in the team going as hard as he's going
Speaker 1: all those things will raise the boat a little bit.
Speaker 1: So Joe's got to keep that mindset, that mentality, can't
Speaker 1: get frustrated, just has to, you know, get after it.
Speaker 1: And he was really good in the post game locker
Speaker 1: room talking about it. You know, obviously he was disappointed,
Speaker 1: and he's a winner. I mean, he hates losing football games.
Speaker 1: He's probably lost more football games this year than he
Speaker 1: ever lost in high school and college combined by a
Speaker 1: long shot. So it's a it's a new learning experience
Speaker 1: for him. But if he keeps running like he did,
Speaker 1: and I thought the offensive line control the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage as well as they have all season long as
Speaker 1: well against a damn good defensive front. So those are
Speaker 1: encouraging signs with the young quarterback trying to find his
Speaker 1: way in the NFL. Next the road game in Oakland
Speaker 1: against the five and four Raiders, and since the Chiefs
Speaker 1: lost at Tennessee on Sunday, Oakland is only a half
Speaker 1: game him out of first in the AFC West. Now
Speaker 1: time for this week's fun Facts interview, where we get
Speaker 1: to know the person under the pads. This week, it's
Speaker 1: a massive defensive lineman taken in the fourth round of
Speaker 1: this year's draft. Time for some fun facts with defensive
Speaker 1: lineman Ronell ren from Saint Louis, Missouri. You are the
Speaker 1: son of a police officer. Correct, it's correct. Tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit about the lessons you got from your dad.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, the biggest thing would just being a
Speaker 1: discipline in the house. My father always told me to
Speaker 1: you know, never everybody always emphasized on like nothing goes
Speaker 1: on past twelve o'clock midnight. So being able to have
Speaker 1: an understanding, getting my schoolwork done, playing football and then
Speaker 1: coming home and everything and just starting the day back up.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a blessing to have a father in
Speaker 1: my life still to this day. So discipline is the
Speaker 1: biggest thing. So basically I had to emphasize on I'd
Speaker 1: rather be taught in the house and be disciplined in
Speaker 1: how to being disciplined on the streets. We're visiting with
Speaker 1: Renelle Ran. You're a big man. Were you always the
Speaker 1: big kid in the neighborhood? I was always the big
Speaker 1: kid in neighborhood. I really hit my grossper doing high school, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: In youth sports, did the parents if the opposing players
Speaker 1: wonder if you were older than their kid. You know
Speaker 1: what the crazy thing is, They never came to me
Speaker 1: knowing or asking if I was like older than like
Speaker 1: the other people and everything. They just knew because of
Speaker 1: my side, they knew something wasn't right. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm very blessed to what I have and everything, and
Speaker 1: just uses that towards a football field and everything. So
Speaker 1: what were your other interests as you're growing up? Oh? Really?
Speaker 1: I was a basketball player first, so I played basketball
Speaker 1: when I was seven years old, played ever since then.
Speaker 1: I didn't start football until my junior in high school.
Speaker 1: So my coach told me, I can't do both in college,
Speaker 1: so you rather do basketball football. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I was better at football because I couldn't jibb or
Speaker 1: shoot the ball to save my life. So I just
Speaker 1: stick to this sport and then look where it got me. Hey,
Speaker 1: there's room and a basketball team though for a guy
Speaker 1: that plays defense and grabs rebounds, now you ain't you
Speaker 1: ain't lying, But somebody in my side being six four
Speaker 1: back then when I was two fifteen, two twenty, you know,
Speaker 1: they usually drove the ball up to court. I was
Speaker 1: just a postman and doing my thing down there. So
Speaker 1: the game change, I gained a lot more weight, So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in an interior and I'm in the trenches.
Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Ronell rand. You attended Lutheran
Speaker 1: North High School in the Saint Louis area. Did you
Speaker 1: take the school work seriously at that age? I really did. Um,
Speaker 1: To be honest, I didn't take my grade serious until
Speaker 1: I started getting recruited for football my junior and senior year,
Speaker 1: So I really had to stay in the books, and
Speaker 1: you know, I really had to be the teacher's pet
Speaker 1: to receive the grades that I wanted if I still
Speaker 1: worked hard for it. And then, thank god, I landed
Speaker 1: Arizona State the D one Scholarship and it led me here.
Speaker 1: So all right, So you mentioned Arizona State. You were
Speaker 1: the top ranked defensive lineman in Missouri as a high
Speaker 1: school senior. The Midwestern schools came calling. The University of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati apparently tried, But you did choose Arizona stage why,
Speaker 1: I mean really, Um, when I first took my official
Speaker 1: visit there, it was just paradise. Um. I forgot who
Speaker 1: they played, but I remember back and I think it
Speaker 1: was twenty thirteen when I was a senior twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: I was a senior in high school. They played some team,
Speaker 1: but once I got there, it was like a some
Speaker 1: degrees in November or December. The hotel was lovely, The
Speaker 1: campus was big and wide, and once I actually got
Speaker 1: there and committed there and everything and started playing it
Speaker 1: barely rained there. It was just paradise sun out. Um,
Speaker 1: not wendy, not chill or cold or anything, but it
Speaker 1: was just hot and just warm and everything. That's the
Speaker 1: environment I wanted to be in. So then coming back
Speaker 1: here to Cincinnati, you know, it's a whole different climate change,
Speaker 1: so I got to adjust to that. But I'm from
Speaker 1: Missouri though, so I'm used to it. So just being
Speaker 1: just getting back to the flow and everything. We're talking
Speaker 1: to Ronell Ran. During your college career, there was a
Speaker 1: coaching change and former NFL head coach Term Words took over.
Speaker 1: Was that a big surprise to the guys on the team? Really?
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is the whole People don't judge me
Speaker 1: for this, but I did not know who Herm Edwards
Speaker 1: was until he got there. But he definitely did change
Speaker 1: the program around. Um. I really missed the old head
Speaker 1: coach that used to be there, but you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's a business change and
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards definitely came in there and did what he
Speaker 1: had to do and he's actually doing great then what
Speaker 1: we did last season, and I just suspect him for
Speaker 1: the best and for my teammates. Back to the issue,
Speaker 1: So when he first got there, um, you play his Uh,
Speaker 1: he emphasizes when you played to win the game. So
Speaker 1: he did this thing to players towards if you're not
Speaker 1: doing your job, you'll just be on an academic scholarship. Um,
Speaker 1: you sit on the sidelines or sitting the um you know,
Speaker 1: the seats where everybody else said had to watch the game.
Speaker 1: But he treat he treated us like a pro. So basically, um,
Speaker 1: you're not doing your thing. The next man up. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to hear that he emphasized you play to win
Speaker 1: the game, because he had that famous speech when he
Speaker 1: was the head coach of the New York Jets. He
Speaker 1: stood up in front of the meeting he said, you
Speaker 1: play to win the game. So he still does that nowadays.
Speaker 1: He still does that. Now, yes, sir, you're a team
Speaker 1: captain your senior year. What did that mean? Man? I
Speaker 1: was really surprised because knowing when I my freshman year there,
Speaker 1: I had to look after the veterans and all that,
Speaker 1: and I didn't like I set the example but not
Speaker 1: quite the example as I wanted to until I hit
Speaker 1: my senior year. So being able to have that blessing
Speaker 1: for the student athletes to vote me to be a
Speaker 1: captain and just took me to the higher standard to
Speaker 1: know that the things I used to do I couldn't
Speaker 1: do and they're gonna lead off my example, not just
Speaker 1: on the field, but off the field. Off the field
Speaker 1: is very important because they want to not for not
Speaker 1: people being judgmental, whatever, but you have to set the standard.
Speaker 1: You have to do what you gotta do or to
Speaker 1: you know, improve and how the people fall behind your
Speaker 1: footsteps so they can improve as well. Once you leave
Speaker 1: out that stadium. After a fine career in the Arizona State,
Speaker 1: you got invited to the Senior Bowl in the NFL combine.
Speaker 1: How big of a deal were those opportunities for you? Oh,
Speaker 1: that was a huge deal. It's a blessing to go
Speaker 1: to both the recent Senior Bowl. It taught me a
Speaker 1: lot about discipline and you know, getting up really because
Speaker 1: I haven't like gotten up there early in such a
Speaker 1: long time, and just being able to, you know, present
Speaker 1: yourself for a job. You know, it's all about interviewing
Speaker 1: and everything because I never had a job until I
Speaker 1: got here and everything. So just being able to know that,
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the business world now and you
Speaker 1: got to do your thing because if you don't, they're
Speaker 1: gonna find somebody else, and you know, life moves on.
Speaker 1: The Bengals drafted you in the fourth round. Describe your
Speaker 1: draft experience. Man, Man, it was great sending at home,
Speaker 1: you know, having people texting me saying, you're gonna go
Speaker 1: this round. You're gonna go this round. Like, man, just
Speaker 1: relax the butterflies the whole time. UM got selected Day
Speaker 1: three with the Cincinnati Bengals. Um, It's definitely a blessing,
Speaker 1: and I'm still working towards I'm still working to this day,
Speaker 1: and I'm just grateful to have the opportunity to UM
Speaker 1: be in the NFL. And I just pray that I
Speaker 1: can just continue to be in this league for a
Speaker 1: very long time and instead of standard and lead and
Speaker 1: just and just do everything I can to you know,
Speaker 1: set myself to UM a successful life. After the game,
Speaker 1: of football. A few more fun facts with Renell Wren.
Speaker 1: After the Bengal selected you defensive line, coach Nikkiason referred
Speaker 1: to you as Mount R. Do you like the nickname? Oh?
Speaker 1: I love the nickname. I love the nickname. Just um
Speaker 1: just seeing my frame and just knew and just knowing
Speaker 1: what I was capable of doing, and um the football
Speaker 1: field gets with Arizona State. They just knew, knew that
Speaker 1: I was just that big person that could just um
Speaker 1: collapse the pocket and just just stuff the run and everything.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing I'm doing very well over here other
Speaker 1: than playing football. What are you good at? Man? Um?
Speaker 1: See the crazy thing gets uh at the football practice
Speaker 1: and games and all that. I really just go home,
Speaker 1: play with my dog at a blue nose pit and
Speaker 1: just playing a pis for the video games and all
Speaker 1: that and just relax on the flip side. Where are
Speaker 1: you terrible at singing? I try to sing while I'm
Speaker 1: in the shower and everything. You know, try to vent
Speaker 1: to myself. We all sound good in the shower, though
Speaker 1: we all exactly to ourselves. Multitasks. I try to be
Speaker 1: able to do that, but now I don't texting job,
Speaker 1: I don't try I try not to texting, job and everything,
Speaker 1: so being responsible right there. But yeah, where do you
Speaker 1: like to spend your money on? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: You know. I love to save. I love to save. Um.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing right now is food. Um. Other than
Speaker 1: that receiving like the payments that I get from the
Speaker 1: Bengas Organization. I just saved that up and you know,
Speaker 1: continue to take a day at the day and everything.
Speaker 1: I only to spend, only spend money on anything for real.
Speaker 1: I'm really just saying for the all season, take a
Speaker 1: couple of trips and then how did that get back
Speaker 1: to work into training? All that? Your folks should be
Speaker 1: proud to hear that. I'm sure if you could meet
Speaker 1: anybody in history, athlete, politician, religious figure, who would that
Speaker 1: person be. Two people I would love to meet T. D. Jakes.
Speaker 1: He's a pastor down to Texas and Jolos thing. He
Speaker 1: runs a big church down there in Texas too. I'm
Speaker 1: a very strong believer in Christ and I would just
Speaker 1: love to meet them and have them to pray over me.
Speaker 1: And just being able to have that, not to have
Speaker 1: that platform as if I'm like the big person. Everybody
Speaker 1: should look at me now but just being able to,
Speaker 1: you know, spread spread the gospel and to continue to
Speaker 1: do what I do to glorify God and everything I do.
Speaker 1: The final thing, as I mentioned at the very beginning,
Speaker 1: you're from Saint Louis Dideff. Go up in the arch.
Speaker 1: I did. I went up there three times. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about lifetime so far. Did you fit in that little
Speaker 1: car that they take you up here? I did the
Speaker 1: past two times. This third time I went, I took
Speaker 1: my girlfriend and my mom and my sister and everything.
Speaker 1: I barely fit. What we've got, the job done outstanding.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this. Welcome to Cincinnati. Thanks for the time. Yes, Sarah,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. That's Renell Wren. Here's a quick invitation to
Speaker 1: join us at one of our on location radio shows
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Speaker 1: be at good Fellows Barn Grill in the Anderson Town
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