1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we Go, Here we Go on the 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Giants Let's Go part. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: Of the Giants podcast Network. 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: The Front Office edition of the Giants Huddle podcast is 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: brought to you by the City College of New York 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Doing Remarkable Things. Learn more at CCNY dot quney dot edu. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: And we're joined by Giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale. And 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: how exciting is it to finally get these young guys 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: into the building and starting to do some work with them. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's really exciting. And it's not only exciting 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: just for them, it's just getting everybody back and seeing 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: the new additions that we added a free agency and 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: have them come together and it's it's you know, it's 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: really going well. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: You were pretty fired up when the team took Deontay 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Banks with that first round pick. Now, not at all. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: What is it about the kid's skill set that you 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: really like? 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: I just think he's everything you want in the corner, 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, starting off with he's tough, and he can tackle, 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: and he likes to play press coverage, and he likes 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: to be on the island out there and he loves it, 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: challenge of it, and you can see these that way here, 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: very humble kid from Baltimore. And a matter of fact, 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: I went down to a football camp at Jamil McClain 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: put on who Jamil you know played here and he 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: played played for US in Baltimore as well, and he 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: was at that camp as a camper when he was 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: like a freshman in high school. It's pretty cool. 31 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: So he's got a lot of game. Obviously, there's a 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: learning curve when you come into the National Football League. 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you try to 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: get accomplished with him this time of year before you 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: get to camping and the other young guys, the other 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: rookies and the other undrafted free agents. 37 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think that the biggest thing has stripped their 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: game completely down. You know. I think he's got the 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: best secondary coach in the league with Jerome Henderson, and 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: he does a great job of that. I mean, I'm 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: talking about start from stance, initial footwork, you know, stance, 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: start techniques and fundamentals, and you know, he's done a 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: nice job of just jumping in there and you know, 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: doesn't it right now? They don't have any bad habits, 45 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: you know, when you start that way, and I'm sure 46 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: you'll see some and but the thing I like about 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: him is just his energy and how he wants to compete. 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: So last season obviously used a lot of three safeties 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. Some of it was 50 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: a functional roster, some of it's a function of what 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: you want to do. It is it a situation where 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: as you get to camp and you take a look 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: at the overall strengths of your defensive secondary, you'll kind 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: of figure out from there what you want to do. 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it, you know, because you think everybody's 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: going to take a step forward, you know, from X 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: on down, and you know, and and get better at 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: certain things. And you know, what we do is we're 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: always trying to evolve as a defense and always you know, 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: trying to throw the change up after you throw them 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: three fastballs at him or you know, and keep them 62 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: guessing that way. So we're going to put the best 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: level on the field, especially in critical situations. 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: And it's really not eleven in today's NFL. Is that 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: it's more like fifteen to seventeen that you've got. 66 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: To be oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: It's really seventeen. 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: Last year it was more than that. Yeah, but I'm 69 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: excited about where we're at defensively with the roster. I 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: was just talking to Joe about that earlier. It's you know, 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: it's it's come a long way in one year, and 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to getting back in training camp and 73 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: getting things going. 74 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: You know, last year being around the building during training camp, 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of positive vibes about Darien Beavers 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately he got hurt, so he loses his 77 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: rookie season. What are some of the things that you 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: liked about him and that you need to see improved 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: upon for him to take a next step. 80 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: I think that what you liked about him was his 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: physicality and he was different than others out there. That's 82 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: what jumped out at me. He still has you know, 83 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: he's really going to play his rookie year this year, 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: so red shirt rookie if you will. And I think 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: that there's going to be a battle there with he 86 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: and j D and and you know, we still you know, 87 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: we just talked about it in the room. It's it's 88 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: not only playing linebackers. Who's going to be the best 89 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: special team players. 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to the edge because Cavon Thibodeau obviously last year, 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, once he got healthy started to show more 92 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: and more. What are some of the things that you've 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: seen from him moving forward that excites you. 94 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: I I, first of all, it's like I love the 95 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: kid himself. You know, so I said earlier. You know, 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: he has no ceiling and I believe that because he 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: can do whatever he puts his mind to. You know, 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: we talked about last year after the season was over with, 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: I said, I think you need to get stronger in 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: your legs and in your core, and that was his 101 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: focus this year in the off season, and you're going 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: to see it that keep developing. I just he's going 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: to get better and better every game that he plays here. 104 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: And the football I Qano is something that you unbelieve. 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Humble. Yeah, it's good to catch off, but unbelievable. He's 106 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: an old soul guy who has a lot of aspirations 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: and dreams and he's going to chase them. And that's 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: good for the Giants. 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Obviously, last year you never had that full balance with 110 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: pressure coming off both edges because the Z's coming off 111 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: the rookie season, which was pretty darn good. Just but 112 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: dealt with injuries from that calf injury from the jet 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: practice that just lingered throughout the course of the season. 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: How important is it to have balance and have both 115 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: of those guys weake in and week out. 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's going to be good for 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: both of them, first of all, because there's not just 118 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: one way where you can slide the protections. But I 119 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: think that zs has come back. He's another one that's 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: come back. You can see that he's taking care of 121 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: his body. To me, he looks bigger than what he 122 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: did last year, and I'm excited to see him get 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: going as well. 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Final question, as the game continues to evolve and more 125 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and more quarterbacks that have this mobility come into the 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: sport that can also throw it, not just run it. 127 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: You know, you've had a lot of different philosophies over 128 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the years. Just talk a little bit about how you 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: have to evolve each year as a defensive coordinator, just 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: based on the way the game is evolving right now. 131 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: Right If you don't have a growth mentality as a coach, 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be coaching much longer. I think that 133 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, you look at college tape when you're doing 134 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: all the draft you know, breakdowns of all the guys 135 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: and see the different things of how defenses are playing, 136 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: the offenses with the mobile quarterbacks, and you also look 137 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: at plays. You know, if they're successful plays, they'll show 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: up on Sunday because the offensive coordinators in this lake 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: are too good and they're going to go. They're always 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: looking for something to steal. So it's it's it's like 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: college football is like four years ahead of what we'll 142 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: see offensively in the NFL. Just because of that, and 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: because of the mobile quarterbacks, you're going to see more 144 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: and more of it. You know, the RPOs, the options, 145 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: the you know, the sprint outs, all the different things, 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: and uh, you know we're gonna have our hands full 147 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: with that. But I think we got enough guys that 148 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: are ope to the challenge. 149 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate a couple of minutes. Good luck this off season, 150 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: and we'll revisit in the summer. 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: All right, that's near it. 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: That's near a Giants defensive coordinator, Wake Bartindale. The Front 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: office edition of the Giants Hutle podcast brought to you 154 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: by City College of New York Doing Remarkable Things. 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