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Speaker 1: All Right, it is a Friday. Let's wrap up the

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Speaker 1: week with a strong one. The Blazing Five off another

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Speaker 1: winning week in one hour from now. Like the numbers,

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Speaker 1: Jmax likes the Dogs this week, I'm going with some

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Speaker 1: flavor favorites. Great to be here, so, I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Falcons not that fascinating, But there's

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Speaker 1: a bigger picture here that I'm watching all over. I

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Speaker 1: saw it Michigan and I'm seeing it all over the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I love the fact, first of all, that Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles ripped the players after the game. Sometimes it's the

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Speaker 1: player's fault. You can't lose a game when the other

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Speaker 1: team has nineteen penalties like Atlanta did and you lost brutal. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Todd Bowles is a great head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a great defensive coordinator. So got fired with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They've lost five to six, third straight season in Tampa

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Speaker 1: where they start strong and they fade fast. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a great coach. But the Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield component here is interesting. So Baker lost two great

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators last couple of years, Liam Cohen. He's in

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Speaker 1: first place with the Jags, and Dave Canalis first place

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Speaker 1: with the Panthers. So Baker's always been a great comeback story.

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Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield is one in nine in primetime games.

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Speaker 1: He's not Mahomes Allen, He's not Stafford, He's not that

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Speaker 1: kind of talent. He's very dependent on his coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: what did Tampa do when they lost Liam? You know

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Speaker 1: what I don't like. They hired a guy who was

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Speaker 1: in house. Now the offense stinks. Baker didn't get worse.

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Speaker 3: They added.

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Speaker 1: In Muka, the receiver from my Ohio state. They should

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Speaker 1: be a better offense, Muka, they should be a better offense.

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Speaker 1: They're worse, far worse. What did the Eagles do when

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Speaker 1: they lost Kellen Moore? They hired in house. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: offense broken What did the Lions do when Ben Johnson left?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's just hire the guy down the hall.

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Speaker 1: Lions offense is not the same Tampa Bay did it,

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Speaker 1: Michigan football. Let's replace hardball with a guy down two

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Speaker 3: The NFL is.

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Speaker 1: Too big of a business to hire proximity. Sometimes it works,

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Speaker 1: But if you lose Ben Johnson, if you're losing Liam

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Speaker 1: Cohen and Dave Canals who are head coaches? Is the

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Speaker 1: guy you give the job to, the in house guy?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to be an.

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Speaker 3: NFL head coach someday?

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Speaker 1: So Baker, last year top five red zone offense in

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Speaker 1: great wide receiver. Last year, they were first in the

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Speaker 1: league on third downs, Now they're eighteenth. Everything has dropped

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Speaker 1: off a mat. They were a top five offense last year,

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Speaker 1: they had a star receiver out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: And now they're a bottom feeder.

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Speaker 1: So I know everybody thinks I'm crazy on this offensive

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Speaker 1: defensive coach. I think you should hire offensive coaches. I

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Speaker 1: think there are exceptions, and I don't know if Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowle is a great coach. The problem being if you

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Speaker 1: hire an offensive coach and he does nail it with

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Speaker 3: The OC within the year.

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Speaker 1: Two leaves, then you've got to nail it again. And

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Speaker 1: Reid McVeigh, Shan Payton, they don't have to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: So that's the danger and a defensive head coach. I

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Speaker 1: The greater the candidate who leaves, the greater the candidate

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Speaker 4: It's an excuse the book. You don't make excuses. We

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Speaker 4: you got to care enough the where it hurts. You

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Speaker 4: It's more than a jobs livelihood. How well do you

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Speaker 4: You can't sugarcoat that. It was inexcusable and he has

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Speaker 4: no answer for it. That's for no excuse for it.

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Speaker 5: And that's what you tell him a lot mirror.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine an NBA coach doing that? Uh So,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it is on the players. So now I see

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Speaker 1: I offer another GM and a coach who could be?

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Speaker 1: It's up in Buffalo. Buffalo is playing the Patriots this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the Patriots beat the Bills again this season

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Speaker 1: and at the very brisk business by the way, heard Harold,

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Speaker 1: the headline is Patriots clinched division in Vrabel's first year,

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Speaker 1: MVP Allen falls short again. How's that gonna play in Buffalo? Okay,

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Speaker 1: how's that gonna play? Worst receiving room in the league

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Speaker 1: for a star quarterback? Matt Stafford has Sean McVay has

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Speaker 1: an array of weapons, Devonte Adams and Pooka. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you could have traded for Devonte Adams, he was on

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Speaker 1: the market. Greg cosel Truthbaum yesterday on our show about

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Speaker 6: a number three type. He's very good at that, but

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Speaker 6: he's a number three type. So they're really not that

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Speaker 6: good a football team. And I know that there's been

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Speaker 1: Last week, Josh Allen completed twenty two passes. Fifteen were

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Speaker 1: to tight ends and running backs. It's the weakest wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room in the league. And the general manager Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean when he was called out by local media instead

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Speaker 1: They don't have a number one or number two. Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean went after the local Buffalo radio hosts.

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Speaker 7: You guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: You guys wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 5: You got to have a show and you got to

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Speaker 7: But bitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest

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Speaker 3: Really, worst receiving room in the league.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the quarterback, best deep ball thrower in the league.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Bean brought back twenty of twenty

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Speaker 3: He thinks this group's good. They're not.

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Speaker 1: They've got a hand full of really good players. At

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. By the way, Jacoby Myers was available,

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Speaker 1: they talked to him, didn't land him. You know where

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Speaker 1: he went Jacksonville three straight games with a touchdown. Jacoby Myers,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean both they need to win

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Speaker 1: and they are favored, and they may match up very

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Speaker 1: well with the Patriots, but they have the world's best

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Speaker 1: football player at the most important position. I had Mark

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Speaker 1: Slaret on this week and I asked Mark, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know you've been around the Bills, and his quote was,

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Speaker 1: I was thoroughly unimpressed with Buffalo as a football team,

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Speaker 1: blown away by their quarterback, unimpressed with everything else. Greg

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Speaker 1: Cosel watches the film, you watch the games. I do too,

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Speaker 1: So Todd Bowles may not be a head coach, and

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Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott is more than capable. And Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean has hit on some really good players. But when

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Speaker 1: he's barking at local radio hosts, my take his last

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Speaker 1: week is a prime example of why this team feels

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Speaker 1: out of the Super Bowl bubble. Twenty two completions fifteen

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Speaker 1: probably right. Jacoby Myers on the market, Davonte Adams again,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Rams go out lan Nate Lanman, Davonte Adams,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Forbes and nail every draft pick defensively for three years.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Buffalo's that good. And what if

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Speaker 1: New England in Mike Vrabel's first year and the kid

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Speaker 1: that's not You're not going to pull the trigger like

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Speaker 1: Todd bole's getting fired after the season. I think this

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Speaker 1: game is huge for the GM and the head coach

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Speaker 1: because Buffalo's got the owner. He's a good owner, new stadium,

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Speaker 1: star quarterback, everything else to me on the table, all right,

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Speaker 1: j Mac blazing five in one hour. A lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff today.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just looking at this Bill's Patriots game. Interesting.

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Speaker 8: Sounds like you like the Patriots too, Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think a rested team at home that does pretty

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Speaker 1: much everything well against a Buffalo team with a superstar

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Speaker 3: I think I get the better coach in New England.

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Speaker 1: I like home, better coach, well rested, healthier and oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, doesn't really have a bad unit.

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Speaker 8: That's fair. I'm looking at the last meeting. So Buffalo

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Speaker 3: The Patriots points. They did that last week too, Josh.

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Speaker 8: Allen interception in the red zone of Josh Allen fumble

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Speaker 8: near midfield. Like they made a lot of mistakes, eleven penalties,

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Speaker 3: I think we get a max effort the Bills. Oh

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if they lose, that is a bad

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I think you're spot on McDermott. They want

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Speaker 8: to find a real estate.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing against the general manager, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: you can't have the best quarterback in the league and

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Speaker 1: be awful at receiver.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know Baltimore is dealing with that too, right

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Speaker 8: they Flowers is better, even better than anything anything Buffalo happened.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Kinkate is good, Knocks is good. I

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Speaker 3: like them both.

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Speaker 1: But Dalton kidd game got hurt earlier this year, and

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Speaker 1: the offense is like, really, it's like you can't reel because.

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Speaker 3: A tight end.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Rams have four tight ends. They

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Speaker 1: can all play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah four.

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Speaker 8: When do we have a reckoning with quarterback salaries because

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen salary is it's onerous, Like, I mean, I

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Speaker 8: don't know how you build a team.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's not harder,

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Speaker 1: but it seems to me the Rams hit on all

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Speaker 1: linebacker last year, became a bowler. You gotta find some

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's won eight of his last nine starts. I

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks want to keep Darnold healthy for the last

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Speaker 8: Absolutely terrifying how much I love these I've already bet three,

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Speaker 8: I'm with you on that, but I just can't get

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's gonna play, but it may not matter.

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Speaker 8: Baltimore seems broken at this point. Do you see Lamar

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Speaker 1: He's like, we've been saying, really ye Lamar. Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: former quarterback Carson Palmer is now fledgling superstar coach Carson

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Speaker 1: So congratulations to you. I'll circle back on that. So

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Speaker 3: Here's the sound.

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Speaker 7: You know, if I want to I want to keep

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been through a lot, and if it's

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Speaker 3: Eight of his last nine starts, which I always thought

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Speaker 5: He just looks frustrated.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's been an up and down progression to

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Speaker 7: It's obviously been a frustrating year for him to get

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Speaker 7: You know, he did that on that stage in front

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Speaker 5: But I think that's what we're all seeing right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can only go through rehabs so many times.

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Speaker 1: It beats you down a little bit mentally. Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: So he's a stiking guy and he played for the

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Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me it, forty four? Could you

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to watch it. You know, I'm us

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Speaker 5: Know, the things he needs around him are there.

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Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, when you're forty four,

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Speaker 1: So Caleb Williams is interesting. I've been saying, if you

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Speaker 7: years get better. But he's got to get better inside

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Speaker 7: the pocket. There's no doubt about it. It doesn't bother

436
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Speaker 7: me because he is so young and he's so dynamic

437
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Speaker 7: outside the pocket, but there's going to be that point

438
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Speaker 7: in the year where he's got to win inside the

439
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Speaker 7: pocket and he's got to be accurate with it. And

440
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Speaker 7: I don't know that he's there yet, but I'm not.

441
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Speaker 7: I definitely wouldn't give up on him. I just want

442
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Speaker 7: to see some improvement and we all want to see

443
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Speaker 7: that inside the pocket accuracy.

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Speaker 1: Was so I was saying this, when you pay a

445
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Speaker 1: quarterback with Buffalo's pan Josh Allen or Kansas City's pay Mahomes.

446
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Speaker 1: The Rams got a very team friendly deal on Stafford,

447
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Speaker 1: so they can go out and get a DeVante Adams.

448
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Speaker 1: But I always think it's tough because, especially in a

449
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Speaker 1: sport where you get tackled, I don't want to take

450
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Speaker 1: money off the table if I was Josh Allen, like,

451
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Speaker 1: you've earned it.

452
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Speaker 3: You're great. You're the one thing I love about the team.

453
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Speaker 1: But there is no question Carson, if you take a

454
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Speaker 1: little less and you can go get an elite slot

455
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Speaker 1: corner and a really really nice right tackle, you're a

456
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Speaker 1: better football team. And so I look at Mahomes, who's

457
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Speaker 1: now making probably fifty to one hundred million a year

458
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Speaker 1: in endorsements. How do you feel about that position about

459
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Speaker 1: You know, taking less absolutely benefits the roster. Brady and

460
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Speaker 1: Breeze at the end of their career could have made

461
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Speaker 1: more money. But you are a pro athlete. The billionaire's

462
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Speaker 1: not taking a pay cut. You know, GM's not taking it.

463
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Speaker 1: The coach isn't taken it. How does it land for

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Speaker 1: you as a former pro athlete when we know it's discussed, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'd be way better with a team friendly deal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day, you can

468
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Speaker 7: take less and take some money off the table if

469
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Speaker 7: you trust the organization to use that money wisely.

470
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Speaker 5: It's great to get all the money you can get

471
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Speaker 5: as a player.

472
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Speaker 7: If you don't trust the people upstairs that are pulling

473
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Speaker 7: all the strings behind, you know, behind everything that's going

474
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Speaker 7: on with salary cap and free agency and drafting the

475
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Speaker 7: right guys.

476
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Speaker 5: If you trust those.

477
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Speaker 7: Guys around you, then you don't have to factor in

478
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Speaker 7: the size of your market, because if you're in the

479
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Speaker 7: market of la or Dallas or New York, there's plenty

480
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Speaker 7: of money to be made outside of your contract from

481
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Speaker 7: the organization. If you're at Kansas City or a Buffalo,

482
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Speaker 7: you really need to trust what's going on and how

483
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Speaker 7: that money is being used, and know and be confident

484
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Speaker 7: that that money is being used wisely, the money that

485
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Speaker 7: you're not accepting as a player, and assuming that the

486
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Speaker 7: team's going to use and spend wisely. If you believe

487
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Speaker 7: in them and you trust them, and they have a

488
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Speaker 7: great track record and they've done that around you, then

489
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Speaker 7: I think it's a no brainer. But if you don't

490
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Speaker 7: have complete trust and faith in the organization that they're

491
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Speaker 7: going to do right with a sary cap around you,

492
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Speaker 7: then you know, I'm not surprised when I see guys

493
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Speaker 7: take as much money as possible in their next contracts.

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Speaker 1: So usc You're Alma Mater had the number one recruiting class,

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Speaker 1: it's an ni L world. Payers get played, players get

496
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Speaker 1: paid there's free agency. The transfer portal, I think it's made.

497
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Speaker 1: Indiana now is a powerhouse because they have a couple

498
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Speaker 1: of rich boosters. Vanderbilt, which is a very heady school,

499
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Speaker 1: is now going out and getting five star quarterbacks. USC

500
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Speaker 1: I think I think there's a little trap in the NIL.

501
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Speaker 1: You can overpay for people. I think USC's kind of

502
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Speaker 1: got the right GM now when you look at college

503
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Speaker 1: football and the world you lived in and what's happening

504
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Speaker 1: now with ni L, the playoff, the transfer portal, are

505
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Speaker 1: you comfortable with it? How does how does it work

506
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Speaker 1: for you now?

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Speaker 7: I think we're all kind of lost and waiting on

508
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Speaker 7: the next set of rules or guidelines on how this

509
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Speaker 7: thing shakes out. But I'm excited to see we've got

510
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Speaker 7: three Santa Margarita kids. Yeah, Samote Katuwanga, Jaden Crowder, Trent

511
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Speaker 7: Moseley all going to SC next year, and you know,

512
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Speaker 7: most likely I expect those guys to have impacts on that.

513
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Speaker 5: Program right away.

514
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Speaker 7: They're incredible players, but they've really focused on California, you know,

515
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Speaker 7: being in a huge market, having the tradition, having the

516
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Speaker 7: success that s SEE has had for generations. I think

517
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Speaker 7: that is a big piece of a pie, and I

518
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Speaker 7: love that they're they're attacking southern California and really going

519
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Speaker 7: after California. I think this is the mecca of high

520
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Speaker 7: school football. So they've really zeroed in on recruiting these kids,

521
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Speaker 7: and they've got the boosters, they've got the big money

522
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Speaker 7: guys to be able to land the number one class

523
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Speaker 7: because they combined that rich tradition and history of the

524
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Speaker 7: school and the program with the right amount of nil

525
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Speaker 7: packages for these young men. So I'm really happy and

526
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Speaker 7: excited to see sc success on the recruiting trail this year,

527
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Speaker 7: and they've.

528
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Speaker 5: Done a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 7: Chat about in the general manager you mentioned has done

530
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Speaker 7: a tremendous job really focusing on southern California. Like I said,

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Speaker 7: we've got three kids going there and I wouldn't be

532
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Speaker 7: surprised if we have more in the future.

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Speaker 3: So I want to close with this.

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Speaker 1: We have seen three teams, the Eagles, the Lions, and

535
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers were great offensively, they lost excellent coordinators. The

536
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Speaker 1: head coaching jobs all those coaches are crushing and instead

537
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: of a big global search, they just hired guys in

538
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Speaker 1: house because it was comfortable. And I said to me,

539
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Speaker 1: this year feels like the year identifying coordinator value. We

540
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Speaker 1: always look at the head coach in the quarterback. It's like,

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Speaker 1: no coordinators really important in this league. Philadelphia's rostered, Detroit's roster,

542
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, those are good rosters.

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Speaker 3: Those are great.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, and they've fallen off a cliff and you, as

545
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Speaker 1: an offensive guy, have your team in the state final.

546
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Speaker 1: And I've said the rules now benefit so greatly offense

547
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Speaker 1: that even if you get a great defensive head coach

548
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, he's going to keep losing coordinators. He

549
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Speaker 1: has to hit on coordinator after coordinator, because if you're hot,

550
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Speaker 1: you leave. Todd Bowles hit on the first two, may

551
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Speaker 1: not have hit on the third. Tell me, as a

552
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Speaker 1: former quarterback, the advantages you have perhaps over a defensive

553
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Speaker 1: minded coach on the old line on the quarterback relationship,

554
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Speaker 1: because it does feel like to me these offensive coaches

555
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton now is on fire and Andy Reid has

556
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Speaker 1: run the league. Belichick felt a little outdated.

557
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Speaker 3: In the end.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in your career and your world and

559
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Speaker 1: your your history the value of the offensive coach with

560
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Speaker 1: the rule changes, it is now a touchdown a game

561
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Speaker 1: advantage to guys like you who just know that side better.

562
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Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt the NFL the way they've protected

563
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Speaker 7: the quarterback and protected defenseless receivers.

564
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Speaker 5: They are focused on high scoring games at the.

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Speaker 1: End of the day.

566
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Speaker 7: The fan base, the highlight reels, all the social media,

567
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 7: it's a lot of the time about explosive plays, big plays,

568
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Speaker 7: spectacular plays. Say Kwon Barkley hurdling a guy and doing

569
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Speaker 7: a three sixty in the air. I mean, that is

570
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Speaker 7: what the NFL has pushed. Again, they've really protected the

571
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Speaker 7: quarterback position and now the receiver position. So if you know,

572
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Speaker 7: at the end of the day, if you've got a

573
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Speaker 7: coordinator that can align the run game with the play

574
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Speaker 7: action game and the deep shot game, also get the

575
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Speaker 7: ball out quick, also run the ball, especially down in

576
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Speaker 7: the red zone, that's you know, that's a recipe for success.

577
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Speaker 7: The hard thing to do is to find coordinators, like

578
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Speaker 7: you're saying, there's a lot of really good coordinators that

579
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Speaker 7: really understand pass protection of the run game and have

580
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Speaker 7: somebody to help supplement the pass game stuff and vice versa.

581
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Speaker 7: Some guys that really understand the back end of the

582
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Speaker 7: defense and how to attack them in the passing game,

583
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Speaker 7: but don't really quite understand how to align their run

584
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Speaker 7: game with the play action game. And finding somebody that

585
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 7: is the complete package and total package is a challenge.

586
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Speaker 7: I think, like you just mentioned, seeing it all over

587
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 7: the place, like quarterbacks, those kinds of coordinators are really

588
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 7: hard to find.

589
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Speaker 1: Congratulations Santa Margarita. Playing Dayla Salle for the state championship

590
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: first year as a coach. What will be your takeaway

591
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: beyond winning.

592
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: Just how hard it is.

593
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter if it's high school, junior, Pop, Warner

594
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 7: Pee Week, College, NFL. It is a challenge. It's incredible.

595
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 7: It's been an incredible run for us. We've got a

596
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: phenomenal staff ourselves, we've got great kids, we've got the

597
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 7: support from the school, so this has been the complete package.

598
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: But it's hard.

599
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 7: It's hard if you've got good players. It's hard if

600
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 7: you've got good coaches. Trying to mix it all together

601
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 7: and find those right recipes is a challenge. But it's

602
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Speaker 7: a blast, and I'm really excited. We're playing, like you said,

603
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Speaker 7: against an incredible program in Dayla sal They've been great

604
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 7: for decades, so it's a tremendous matchup for us and

605
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 7: a great opportunity for our players to shine on the

606
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Speaker 7: biggest stage.

607
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Speaker 3: Carson Palmer as always good, Senior.

608
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Speaker 5: Thanks thanks going you bet, Yeah.

609
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Speaker 3: It is it is.

610
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Speaker 1: I watched Baker Mayfield last night and my take is

611
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Speaker 1: they hit on back to back great coordinators. Doesn't mean

612
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the current guy doesn't know what he's doing. But man,

613
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: when you lose Liam Cohen and Jacksonville and Dave Canalis

614
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson, these guys are elite.

615
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: They are a plus guys. It's you.

616
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Speaker 1: I've always said this that if you lose Jim Harbaugh,

617
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: don't go down the hallway. You've got to get on

618
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: the phone with Jimmy Sexton. You've got to go hire

619
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Speaker 1: the best coach in the country available. I'll defend Alabama

620
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: Greg Byrn. You lose Nick Saban, you can't do better.

621
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Speaker 1: They didn't go down the hallway. They went all the

622
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Speaker 1: way to Seattle, three thousand miles away to get Kaylen

623
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Speaker 1: Debor And you say, well, he struggled. You don't even

624
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: understand how good Kaylen de Boor is. Bama is not

625
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Speaker 1: what they were six years by the way, Nicks. Last year,

626
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, they didn't look the same. Remember when Nick

627
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: said started kind of complaining about the nil. Why because

628
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Speaker 1: he faced sark in Texas twice and Texas had the

629
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Speaker 1: better players. Because Texas money's much bigger than Alabama money.

630
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Speaker 1: So Calin de Borr is not going to become Nick Saban.

631
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Speaker 3: Can you win a.

632
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Natty every fourth year? That's the reality of the NIL.

633
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean you're seeing it right now, Indiana. Just bet

634
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State this idea of running the table and winning

635
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: every year.

636
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Two three, that is a total outlier.

637
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Speaker 8: Now when it comes to this Tampa stuff losing these coaches, Colin,

638
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 8: this is why you hire an offensive head coach, because

639
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 8: you get the defensive guy.

640
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: If he has a good offensive mind, he's stolen to

641
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: be a head coach. Student.

642
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Speaker 8: So next month we're going to do this cycle because

643
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 8: I see Diana, Russini and Brear everybody talking about, oh,

644
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 8: all these coaches who are going to get interviews, and

645
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 8: it's a lot of defensive guys. Just I know that's

646
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 8: one of your big things, Like you don't hire a

647
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 8: defensive head coach. Jesse Minter is great, but if you

648
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 8: hire him and he gets a good offensive mind, that

649
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 8: guy's gone in years.

650
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Speaker 3: We'll think about this.

651
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams got a defensive coach disaster, Jade and Daniels

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Speaker 1: got one. We all loved it. Year two, what are they? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks just keeps getting better.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: The problem is I don't want to go Pennix and

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris defensive coach looks like am As.

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Speaker 3: By the way, is Raheem Morris Todd Wolves? Are they

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Speaker 3: coaches next year? I don't.

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Speaker 8: That's why all these Browns fans who want to run

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Speaker 8: offs at Fanski. Be very careful, be careful. The grass

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Speaker 8: isn't always greener as they like to say.

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Speaker 3: What if?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you Caleb against Shaduer, I like

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Speaker 1: the Bears, this whole Shitar Sanders thing.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's only three starts. He got nothing to

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Speaker 3: work with.

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Speaker 1: It was the Titans, it was Tier. He went toe

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Speaker 1: to toe with cam Ward and was way more productive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Kim Ward's on like an interim coach. Mike McCoy like.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, I'm not poo pooing Shad. I had a

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Speaker 3: really good game. He looked good.

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Speaker 8: He looked as good as he has all seasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just it's fascinating that the NFL

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Speaker 1: trying to send a message let Shador Sanders drop to

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Speaker 1: the fifth round. Cleveland may have found himself a gem.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna zip.

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Speaker 8: It, Locket, put it right in my pocket, as I

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Speaker 8: told like my five year old back in the day.