1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And now we're joined by the owner and president and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: general manager of the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, brought to 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: you by your North Texas four Dealers for Built for Texas, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Built for you, Jerry. We want to start out here 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: today by saying one thank you for your time as always, 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: and our deepest condolences on the loss of the family 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: member of Marcus Paul and can only imagine and wanted 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: to ask you first just how hard it was yesterday 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: with the circumstances surrounding losing Marcus. Well, he was beloved 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: possibly the most of all of our organization. He touches 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: everybody in his role and everyone had their stories of 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: their time they spent with him all the way from 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy who weekly spent a lot of time with 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: him because they would go reach player and had a 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of time there together. So someone that touches everybody 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: in the organization as a let's say, to a position 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: coach that might see just part of the team, it 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: really really touched everyone just in that standpoint. And he's 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful man and he just I was talking 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: with the doctor and he just had never knew. It 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: was just simply an immediate stroke that he never knew 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: what happened, and so we lost a tragic situation. We 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: lost to find young man relatively speaking, you know, with 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: these situations with this type of coach, it felt like 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: to me and my experience with teams that you have coaches, 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: coaches aren't one of the guys, but this particular type 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: of coach is kind of one of the guys. Did 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: it Did it make it any different for how the team, 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, reacted maybe had it been somebody else. Well, 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: like I point out, he is and he was. And 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: you notice the tributes to him from people that have 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: really amazingly associated with the Cowboys but had experiences with him. 33 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: And I got some of the nicest notes from the 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: New York Giants ownership that knew him well because of 35 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the years he had been there. But he came to 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: us great. Mike Warsick was one of his greatest supporters, 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: and Mike we thought a lot of over the years, 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and so Mike recommended him here before McCarthy came in, 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: and Mike and then of course the Medley. When Mike 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: got here, he wanted to keep him and keep him 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: in charge of that whole area. That's a critical part. 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Barry Switcher once told me one time. He said, frankly, 43 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the most important coach and most important person other than me, 44 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: is the guy that does our strength and conditioning. Coach, 45 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: I will you send a lot of messages and get 46 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: a lot done there. Bill Parcels used to go back 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: there in the strengthened conditioning room and sit with the 48 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: players and he would work over their diets. He had 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: suggests sides to them and put the different things in 50 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: their health regime. And he said, this is my time 51 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: to build relationships, and he would do that at that time. 52 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: So critical spot. The big loss for us, boy Jerry. 53 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Early in the game you lose cam Irving, and then 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: a few plays later you lose Zach Martin. I know 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: the Bassic family was like, I can't believe this is 56 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: happening again. What was the Jones family thinking watching that part? 57 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: Watching that part? Oh, well, we in a manner of speaking, 58 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: we've gotten a little numb to that. And I will 59 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: say this, relatively speaking, I thought we with the loss 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: of especially Martin, but cam Irving as well, that really 61 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: to us. But I thought we adjusted really well there, 62 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: and so I don't think that that at the end 63 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: of the day was the biggest thing that we contributed to, 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the biggest thing about our lack of success. Yesterday. 65 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: We came in, we made we at all times I 66 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: thought had the ability to do something on offense. But 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: so but it was you know, it was noted but 68 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: to our gas credit. I thought we were in that 69 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: ball game right into the fourth quarter, and but for 70 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: a couple of things, it could have gone our way. 71 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: Do you have an idea, Jerry, how serious those injuries 72 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: are and if they could possibly be ready for next 73 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night versus Baltimore. No, I don't know how serious 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: they are, but I do know that they've got the 75 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: potential to be with us. The riskless, I mean, the 76 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: potential to impact is the rest of the season. Jerry, 77 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned getting into the fourth quarter. This is a 78 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff that certainly has been had an aggressive approach 79 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to fake punts, decisions on fourth down, 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: and one of the big plays was that fourth down 81 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: and the fake punt deepen your own end in the 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. How did you feel about the call? Those 83 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: plays to me are when they work, they are inspirational. 84 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: The punt return that we did the kickoff return that 85 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: we did against Minnesota and threw the ball across the field. 86 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: They are inspirational, but they certainly can work the other 87 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: way as well, and in this particular case, because of 88 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: our field position, principally, these plays were very impactful negatively, 89 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: there is no question about that. Do you think it 90 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: did impact us negatively at all? Was there a good 91 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: reasoning behind that? Yes, there was very good reasoning. Whether 92 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: you agree with it or not, there was some serious 93 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: reasoning behind those calls. And they can take a situation 94 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: that is teetering, and that is underlying everything here. Our 95 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: coach and our coaches thought that we were teetering and 96 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: we were having real limitations in certain areas and we 97 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: needed a proverb of pull one out. Yeah, Jerry, I'm 98 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: just I'm wondering here. By the way, Jerry Jones with 99 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: us here on one oh five three to fan that 100 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the risk reward element of it, And I think from 101 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: a perspective it certainly from a fans perspective that it 102 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: may have seemed that it was just really grasping for 103 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: straws maybe at the end of the game in a 104 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: game that didn't really feel that way. That was only 105 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: a four point game. Did it seem like it was 106 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: more something that you didn't need to do in that area? 107 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Did the risk equal the reward when you're getting gauged 108 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: vertically in the run game, When you see it started 109 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: happening and you're getting gauged vertically, then you know you 110 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: need to do something more drastic. Well, Jerry, when you 111 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: look at the offense, obviously it had its moments. Later 112 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: in the game, it struggled and the pass rush kind 113 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: of got to Andy Dalton. How did you feel Andy 114 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Dalton played on Thanksgiving? Well, under the circumstances, I thought 115 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: he had us as a quarterback. He had us send 116 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: the game all the way to the end. He did 117 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: not turn the ball over. Well, you could tell everybody could. 118 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: He was under real pressure. He was very aware of 119 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: the their ability to just take four rushers really and 120 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: get the job done and putting pressure Boor. That's hard 121 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: to work against when you can just take four gas 122 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and really create the pressure. But I do not think 123 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton was the reason that we didn't win 124 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: that ballgame, or what in the world does that mean. 125 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: What that means is that if we'd had a couple 126 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: of things go the other way for us that were 127 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: not a part of what he was doing, we could 128 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: have won that ball game. So I thought, I liked 129 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: what we did, and I really thought if you compare 130 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: the two teams of the quarterbacks out there, for me, 131 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: I like Andy Dalton. And when it comes to Washington, Jerry, 132 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: they've kind of done a little bit of the opposite 133 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: of what you've done over the last few years is 134 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: they've invested almost all of their first round picks in 135 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: defensive line. When you look at Washington and you look 136 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: at right now your defense, do you look at in 137 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the future that we need to invest more kind of 138 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: high picks in that defensive line. Well, what I would 139 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: like to have done is being up against that defensive 140 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: line with what we've invested in in front of them 141 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: in our offensive line, we didn't have it out there. 142 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: They were all gone. All the money that we've been 143 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: putting in the offensive line, ninety percent of it was 144 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: watching the game, not out on the field, and so 145 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have that offensive line out there that we've 146 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: paid all the money to compete against their defensive line. 147 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Give me that and I'd like to see that contest, 148 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: But we didn't have that yesterday and that that's not 149 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: here nor there. That's part of the game of football. 150 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: But we've got when you look at what could be, 151 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: and again that's not that doesn't help you at all yesterday. 152 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: But when Martin went out there, I would say, there 153 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: goes eighty nine p sent of what you're spending on 154 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: your offensive line, and frankly, with the way we've got 155 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: it done, a huge portion of what we're spending in 156 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: general offense. So that's one thing. But now let me 157 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: say this, Gregory Lawrence Alden Smith. In the case of Armstrong, 158 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: one of the bright spots of our team is Armstrong 159 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: number ninety two? Or I like our edge on our 160 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: down line? Well, I'll tell you they're certainly playing a 161 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: lot better. But you did bring up an interesting point 162 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: of how many of the players that you have and 163 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: who you're paying and weren't able to be out on 164 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: the field. That's a little bit different. You did have 165 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, Jalen Smith guys that you extended their contracts 166 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: prior to the beginning of last season. How do you 167 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: feel about those guys and the return on investment on 168 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: those two contract extensions. Well, I like what we've spent 169 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: and what we've done going all the way back to 170 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: picking him on Jalen Smith, that's been a home run 171 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: and he's he's everything and more. We thought he could 172 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: be coming back from the injury when we got him 173 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: in the second round, he was on the first round board. 174 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: So that's that is absolutely a winner. I've said this before, 175 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Zeke has our best player. He certainly yesterday would that 176 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: he was up against a tough situation with where we are. 177 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: But still I like both those players and I think 178 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: we're lucky to have both those gas. Now, Jerry a 179 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: lot wouldn't pack the resources. I would not take those 180 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: resources that I'm putting there and trade not having those 181 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: gas for those resources. I would not do that. Sorry, 182 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to interrupt you again, But one more 183 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: question here. A lot of the topics have been surrounding 184 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: his team have been on quote, tanking or positioning in 185 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: next year's draft. You've been at this a long time. 186 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: In your opinion with this team specifically and how it's built, 187 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Which would you think it's going to be more beneficial 188 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: to the team being drafting high next year or coming 189 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: off of a playoff appearance. Oh, I think coming off 190 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: of the playoffs appearance. Unquestionably, this is now, this is 191 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: this year, and you wait that now, and that's if 192 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: there's there's really not a decision here on our team 193 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: of tanking. Let me be real clear, and I'm not 194 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: offended by the conversation at all, and I understand what 195 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about. That's just not going to be the case. 196 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: And we've got players that we're having to play, not 197 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: because necessarily we have a choice, we want we have 198 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: these players. There are our best players to win the ballgame. 199 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: It turns out they're the players that ought to be playing, 200 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: they're the young players, they're players that also potentially have 201 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: for the most part, good futures. So the only definition 202 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: I know about tanking is to play people that can 203 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: help you in the future more than they can than 204 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: someone that could help you more. Now we don't have 205 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: that situation, Jerry. After the game, I can just go 206 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: back to twenty seventeen when you guys had that show 207 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: all or nothing, And I know, after a tough Thanksgiving loss, 208 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: you talk to the guys and try to give them 209 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of that little break, but inspire them going into 210 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: the break that they would have. Did you get to 211 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: talk to the team after the game yesterday, I talked 212 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to individuals with the team. Yes, I was there and 213 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: talk to individuals with the team, and the expressed at 214 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: least the way that I handle adversity or I try 215 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: to address a situation that might be what like we're 216 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: dealing with here. These guys have to not only individually 217 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: but as a group, address how they are going to 218 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: go out there today and get ready to play Baltimore. 219 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: And so that's the kind of conversations I have with them. 220 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Jerry again, our thanks for joining us here today and 221 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: again our condolences for the loss of Marcus and we 222 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: look forward to hearing from you next week. Enjoy your day. 223 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, you as well. That's Jerry Jones here, 224 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: brought to you by your North Texas for dealers, Ford 225 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Built for Texas, Built for you.