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Speaker 5: Now let's get it to these five star views, get

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Speaker 5: Five stars by refreshing open minded and funny, realistic contemporary

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Speaker 5: Rod and Karen are funny, your, insightful, and truthful. They

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Speaker 4: I got a couple.

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Speaker 5: I got an email from somebody that's willing to talk

445
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Speaker 5: about it.

446
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Speaker 4: She's in sorority.

447
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Speaker 5: Email me if you're willing to talk about it. But

448
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be asking like real questions. I really do

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: want to know. I'm not gonna judge you, obviously. I

450
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 5: don't do interviews where I'm like you stupid motherfucker.

451
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Speaker 1: All that I don't do.

452
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Speaker 4: I don't do those. I know people like those, but

453
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Speaker 4: that's not my style.

454
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Speaker 5: But I'm curious and I do want to know, and

455
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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to offend anybody, but I would like

456
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Speaker 5: to know like how it goes. So yeah, email me

457
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Speaker 5: the Blackouts at gmail dot com and maybe I'll do

458
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Speaker 5: a thing where I interview more than one person about

459
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Speaker 5: it and just kind of put it together in a

460
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Speaker 5: show and see what people think. And if it's something

461
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: where you don't want to give your name or something,

462
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Speaker 5: we'll figure out a way for me, like do it

463
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Speaker 5: with an alias or anonymously, because you know, I'm not

464
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 5: trying to make it a problem for people. Lakita says,

465
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Speaker 5: I don't know what voodoo Karen knows, but she looks

466
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Speaker 5: fabulous at the all this time amazing and judging from

467
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Speaker 5: that photo, Rod is hiding his youthful face under all

468
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 5: that facial hair. But either way, Karen's husband is a

469
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Speaker 5: very handsome young man. My twenty nineteen spirit wanted me

470
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Speaker 5: to let y'all know the absolute that you all made.

471
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Speaker 5: Oh I guess influence you have made in my life

472
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Speaker 5: and the lives around me since I began listening to

473
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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. Too many ways there y'all have time for

474
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Speaker 5: me to list I know that you doing this show

475
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: is living your truth, but I want you to know

476
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 5: that living your truth is helping so many others live

477
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Speaker 5: theres and deserve it all.

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Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen and beyond, Mary New Year, thank.

479
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Speaker 5: You, thank you, and yeah, man, I'm glad that we

480
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 5: hear that a lot sometimes when people will be like

481
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: this show has helped me or this show is giving

482
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 5: me a place to do this, that and the other,

483
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: and you know, sometimes it's like I never I'm glad

484
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: for it, but I'll probably never really truly be able

485
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: to embrace like the the magnitude of that for some people,

486
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: because I don't know it make it overwhelmed me.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and well it just overwhelms me a.

488
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Speaker 5: Little bit where I feel like this responsibility or something

489
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: to people and I don't want to, you know, I

490
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 5: just want to keep the focus on us having fun

491
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: and doing our thing. But I'm also really glad to

492
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: put that positive energy or whatever you would call it

493
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Speaker 5: out into the world because I think, you know, we

494
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: need more of that shit, and I get it from

495
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Speaker 5: some podcasts and stuff too. So same eighteen eighteen milk toast.

496
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Speaker 5: We had a lot of comments eight comments. GWG says,

497
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Speaker 5: Rod said he was going hard as a motherfucker, didn't

498
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Speaker 5: play the song so so subtle but so so good.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, I.

500
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Speaker 5: Did that, dude, that through that ham Croft Corey said,

501
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Speaker 5: it's your commentary about customer service.

502
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: Folks having to do emotional labor struck a chord with me.

503
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Speaker 1: I made a what no, my hair hit the microphone,

504
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: my bag? Oh okay, I thought you were saying something.

505
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 5: I made a point of filling out a fore of

506
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: survey after making a having a makeover artist who was

507
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: incredibly professional, creative, and patient enough to try to teach

508
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: me as she applied each product. Most of the questions

509
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 5: on that survey were about whether the workers made me

510
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Speaker 5: feel appreciated. Then there were questions about what else workers

511
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Speaker 5: could do to make me feel appreciated.

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Speaker 1: What the hell?

513
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Speaker 5: That should not be the standard by which professionals in

514
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Speaker 5: the service or in service oriented jobs are judged.

515
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Speaker 4: They're already performing a service. That's a job.

516
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Speaker 5: If folks aren't feeling appreciated in their lives, maybe they

517
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: should pay attention to their personal relationships. It's not a

518
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 5: random store employee's responsibility to fix.

519
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Speaker 1: That, right, But it all boils down to society. Is like,

520
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: make me feel good, make me feel great. You ought

521
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Speaker 1: to be able to solve all my problems in this interaction,

522
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Speaker 1: and because of that, customer services changed. So like Roger say,

523
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: Christmas services came it has turned into massaging egos, massaging

524
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: feelings and things like that because people are people will

525
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: be mad about something else and this thing, you know,

526
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: you gotta do with the crazy ass customer calling and

527
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Speaker 1: mad and pissed off about your customer service for the

528
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Speaker 1: smallest infraction that actually has nothing to do with the

529
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Speaker 1: infraction itself, because the infraction a lot of times ain't

530
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Speaker 1: that big, but because they have other things going on

531
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Speaker 1: in their life, and nobody wants to deal with the

532
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: bad press, and nobody wants to do people going on

533
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Speaker 1: on social media dragging a company talking about the company's

534
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Speaker 1: terrible when an actual now something. Now, some complaints are valid,

535
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, and some complaints actually require that,

536
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Speaker 1: But for a lot of people, they're bringing this baggage

537
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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the person doing their job.

538
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do think we've become so entitled, and

539
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 5: I think ultimately the real reason that I kind of

540
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Speaker 5: reject the framing of the way they put the customer

541
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Speaker 5: service now with the you know how you feel and

542
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry that this happened to you, is that it's

543
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 5: still insincere deep down because it's a job and they're

544
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: making them act that way, I'm okay with just a

545
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 5: professional transaction where it's not about my emotions, it's not

546
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Speaker 5: about your mental state, It's just about us.

547
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Speaker 4: You have a job I have.

548
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Speaker 5: I want to get something from your job, and we

549
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 5: just do that, you know, because the thing like it's

550
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 5: always with customer service, but like it would be ridiculous

551
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Speaker 5: with any job.

552
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Speaker 4: You know, if you had to take a survey.

553
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Speaker 5: With Taco Bell and did the Taco Bell employee make

554
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Speaker 5: you feel appreciated, You'd be like, what the.

555
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Speaker 4: Fuck they handed me in supreme and then that was

556
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Speaker 4: the end of the transaction.

557
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Speaker 1: I got three Taco Bell grandees and.

558
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Speaker 5: It was good, right, So yeah, I would I feel you.

559
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 5: We got this comment from anonymous. They emailed me and

560
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: said maybe I should put this anonymous. So I just

561
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Speaker 5: actually copy it and paste it and took the name out. Hey, y'all,

562
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 5: part of me wants you to keep this anonymous.

563
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Speaker 1: Lol.

564
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Speaker 5: Feel free not to read it on the air, because

565
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 5: I know it's long and you will have a lot

566
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: of feedback get to if you write something like this,

567
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 5: we're gonna read it on the air.

568
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.

569
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Speaker 5: Is long, and I'm not gonna read all this in

570
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Speaker 5: my personal time and respond back. And then we got

571
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: a private email conversation going, nah, let's just do it

572
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: on the show. You're here, it's fine, and I took

573
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: your name out so it won't be no issues. Also,

574
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 5: I just want to sound so happy I've finally been

575
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: able to catch up. I was months behind on all

576
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 5: my faie podcasts, including yours, and now caught up enough

577
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 5: to lead comments for the feedback show.

578
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Speaker 4: Thank you for taking a holiday break for yourselves and me.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you got a chance to catch you up.

580
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to take brigs more often. I'm gonna

581
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: be real with y'all.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you because being about to talk

583
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: to about this year is gonna be spending time with

584
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: loved ones and and family and friends. You know, I've

585
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: hit a few people up this. Don't live here and

586
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I'm gonna make truck out

587
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: to come see you, make a make a little special trip.

588
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: Regarding chance, I have to reflect on my initial reaction

589
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: to his comments after this episode.

590
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: I'm usually oneing to let.

591
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 5: Person a person's action speak louder than their words after

592
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: they gave an apology like he did. For some reason,

593
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: my immediate reaction to him was fuck out of here. Honestly,

594
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: this is still how I feel. I just didn't want

595
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: to hear it from him or other men who thought

596
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: like him. I've always been a huge fan of his,

597
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: but lately he's been turning me off a bit. I

598
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: had to remind myself though, that I was once young

599
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: with problematic thoughts and feelings. I had to grow and

600
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: learn the things that I do now. It took people

601
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: calling me out on my shit. I know I should

602
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: want the same space to grow for others. Again, usually

603
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: I do allow that space. My energy, though, is running low. Yeah,

604
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 5: I've seen that a few times from different people, especially

605
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: in the way of this R. Kelly shit, because you

606
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 5: got men that were either complicit or silent or have

607
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: their own demons coming through now and being like, yeah,

608
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: so I fuck R Kelly. And you know, I also

609
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: learned that this was bad and there will always be

610
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Speaker 5: I think, especially for women LGBTQ people within our community,

611
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: the black community, There's always gonna be some resentment to

612
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: the fact that black men have a privilege that allows

613
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Speaker 5: us to learn these things late in life or not

614
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Speaker 5: at all.

615
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Speaker 4: And what we do is such a revelation to us.

616
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: Right, oh my god, these women as people, you know,

617
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 5: that kind of shit, and they here's little girls.

618
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: You probably shouldn't be having sex with them.

619
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Speaker 5: Like I'm sure it does annoy people and make you

620
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: roll your eyes. I know with racial things, a lot

621
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: of times Black people have that reaction where it's like

622
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: some white person goes, oh my god, these niggas are people,

623
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: and we are like, ah, well, yeah, that's the fucking point.

624
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: We've been saying that our whole lives and with misogyny

625
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: black men, we don't have to really live under it

626
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: in the ways that it oppresses us. We do have

627
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: some effects from living under it, but most of the

628
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: time we blame that on women. We don't blame that

629
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: on on the other men that cause it. We always

630
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: blame it on women and go, yeah, you made me misogynistic,

631
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: you made me be this way. So there's a privilege

632
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Speaker 5: to it, and I'm sure that people are resentful. You

633
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: know when I like, I brought this up a long

634
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: time ago. I want to say, the Saturday after I

635
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: did at the interview with Kwan Mills on our Feedback show.

636
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: But I was like, I can do that interview and

637
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 5: be calm and not cuss him the fuck out and

638
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: not be like, nigga, you a goddamn line all that shit,

639
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: because I'm not affected or pressed in the way that

640
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: his misogyny would affect me, you know what I mean.

641
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: So it's easier for me to do the interview and

642
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: not cussing him the fuck out because it's not pushing

643
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: my buttons in that way. And I would hope that

644
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: I could do a professional interview with anybody. I would

645
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 5: hope that even if it was like some racist motherfucker,

646
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: I would be able to be like, Okay, let me

647
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 5: ask him the questions that I want to ask without

648
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 5: like yelling at them and shit. But that's that's privilege.

649
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 5: That's my privilege right there. Not everybody, like, not everyone

650
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: in our community has that. There's some people that would

651
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: have been like, I can't even talk to this nigga,

652
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 5: you know.

653
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: So that's the like, that's the thing.

654
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: And with Chance coming around on this, he's actually coming

655
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: around earlier than most men, Like most men don't come

656
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 5: around on the shit. What is he like twenty three,

657
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 5: twenty five or something? Let me look up his age.

658
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 5: But most most black men don't come around on this

659
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: at all.

660
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: They're much older.

661
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if they.

662
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 5: Do come around on it, it's to twenty five years old,

663
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: so it's he's still fairly young on this. Most black

664
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: men don't come around on this at all. They never

665
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: admit to any complicity in it. They never admit to

666
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: the things he said, Like I didn't believe him because

667
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: they were black women and black girls, and we don't

668
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 5: value them like he made it personal, Like I didn't

669
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: value them in a way like what he could have said.

670
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 5: Society taught me not to value these people. And you know,

671
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: I love my mother and my sister. And he didn't

672
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 5: do any of the top no please, And I think

673
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: that's what people say that black men feel, and it's

674
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 5: what people say they want black men to admit, right,

675
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: And then when he admitted it, they still were mad

676
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 5: because the emotional response is still one of like go

677
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: fuck yourself. You know, it's they're like they people need

678
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: time to be able to cope with this, and they

679
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: don't personally no chance. But I think also the last

680
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 5: thing I'll say about it is there's a lot there's

681
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: not a lot of honesty because people haven't really sissed out,

682
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: sessed out their own emotions on these things, like we

683
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: need to be honest about our own emotions.

684
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Are you willing to accept the apology that you're demanding.

685
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Right, And for a lot of people, the answer is no.

686
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: Right most of us that will not.

687
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: I'm not a demand of apology person, but most of

688
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: the people that demand these apologies online and stuff and

689
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: want to see this quote unquote work done and reconciliation

690
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: and all this.

691
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: Most of these people are not willing to accept these apologies.

692
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: No matter what you say. And we be and y'all know,

693
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: we've been getting as apologies forever, and a lot of

694
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: people will let that shit slide. You get a succealing

695
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: and people act like they giving you a fuck as apology. Now,

696
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: at one time that he point the finger at anybody else,

697
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: he said, y'all, it was me. I did it. I

698
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: fucked up. I'm sorry, my bad. He didn't throw another

699
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: woman up as a shield to protect him from his

700
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: fucking actions. He took full responsibility. And this is what

701
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: you ask for. And that's why I'm to the point

702
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: that niggas don't know what they want because you get it,

703
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: and you sedill reject it.

704
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I wouldn't even say people let the messed

705
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: up apologies slide. They don't let any of the apologies

706
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: go like, they don't accept any of them. So you

707
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: know which is you know to me, if I understand

708
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: that you give an apology and it's not up to

709
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: you to make someone accept it or to let them

710
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 5: accept it, that's fine.

711
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: But I'm not one of those people.

712
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 5: And I also don't know that those people speak for everybody, correct.

713
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 5: I think that's a small group of people who are like,

714
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: fuck everybody, fuck everything, everything's not good enough.

715
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: And honestly, that's not my energy.

716
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: Those people are fucking bitter, they're hurt, they're whatever, and

717
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 5: they're gonna hold on to that shit forever and nothing's

718
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 5: gonna ever change in their lives until they're ready to

719
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: move on, and that is their prerogative. I'm just not

720
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: one of those people, and I don't begrudge those people.

721
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna argue with them. That's your own personal

722
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: perspective on life, but I don't want it around me.

723
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: I do need people to have the energy to forgive.

724
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 5: I do need people to have the energy to allow

725
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: themselves to move on, not for the person who offended

726
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 5: you or whatever, but for yourself, Like, I'm not willing

727
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: to just hold on to some shit forever, cause it

728
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 5: does affect me, and I'm not gonna lie to anyone

729
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: about that. Some people say it doesn't affect them, that's

730
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 5: how they get down, that's their prerogative. I would question

731
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 5: the honesty of that, because some people say that.

732
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: Shit and then you look at every action they have

733
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: and you.

734
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 5: Can tell they're still hurt and it does affect them,

735
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 5: and they're not able to let it go. They just

736
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 5: keep telling everybody I'm fine, I'm fine. But you're looking

737
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: at them and you're like, you're not fine, dude, You're

738
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: not fine. Something's wrong with you, and moving on is

739
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: hurting you. Not being able to move on as some

740
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: type of power you're holding onto or something, and it's

741
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: going to keep affecting you. And nobody wants to have

742
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 5: that moment of reflection on that. But anyway, what chance

743
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: is a little different because it's the immediacy of it.

744
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: He apologized on Saturday. Yeah, people weren't really like let

745
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 5: it go by Sunday. It's fine, but yeah, I live

746
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 5: in Chicago and it often seems like everybody. Everyone knows

747
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: someone who knows a girl affected about R Kelly's predatory behavior.

748
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: So many people have a story. It was just a

749
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: nun thing out here. So for him to say he

750
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: never saw a picture of R Kelly's abuse accusers felt

751
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: like a lie in success. So many people blew it off,

752
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: just like he did. Yeah, well, I don't know. Yeah,

753
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 5: that's up to you to determine.

754
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: I know.

755
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: His I think his point was trying to say something like,

756
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: in his mind, he's just a picture. These these this

757
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 5: conspiracy to bring this man down, and he never personalized

758
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: it on that level. But yeah, I don't know. He

759
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: could be all of this shit could be lies. He

760
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 5: could be making up the apology and everything. I don't

761
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: know this, dude. I'm just going out for what we

762
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 5: saw as a black woman. It feels like we're all

763
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: like all we are doing is giving out chances for

764
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: black men to grow and truly love us to do

765
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 5: the work to show that, and we end up being hurt.

766
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: That's true.

767
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: It gets exhausting. It makes me angry and sad, and

768
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 5: I can't lie. What else do we need to say

769
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 5: to do to get people, especially our men, to hear

770
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: us how do we how long do we need to

771
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: wait for them to grow out of this misogyny? So

772
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: much of this could have been stopped if so many

773
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: people had spoke up and out against R. Kelly and

774
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: didn't give him a platform. There is also part of

775
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: me asking myself, am I being too easy on chance

776
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 5: right now writing this email?

777
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

778
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 5: Don't seem like you're being easy on them to me?

779
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, maybe I'm reading it wrong. But I mean

780
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 5: you basically say he probably lying and not being sincere.

781
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that's necessarily going easy.

782
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: On them, No, And you know, and like right to say,

783
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: we don't personally know him. I don't know. You might

784
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: have a personal relationship with him the person, but I

785
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: don't personally know him or anything like that. So in

786
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: his mind he might have been like, well, since I

787
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: didn't physically see them, you know, people talked about them,

788
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: But he might have been like, I ain't see a

789
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: picture of it. I didn't personalize it, you know, I

790
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: just looked at him as just normal fast as girls

791
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: or how you know, the things we normally say in

792
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: our community. And I do understand your hurt, and I

793
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: do understand your pain, but also the issues and the

794
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: problems with black men. Let's keep it real. It is

795
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: not black women's responsibility to fix it. But a lot

796
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: of black men look at black women like, I'm broken,

797
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: Fix me, bitch, I'm broken, fix me, fix me, fix me.

798
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: That's not my job, nor is it my responsibility. I

799
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: was forced to grow up. I was forced to look

800
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: at things, and you should be too. But society coddles

801
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: and cradles you because you know, Mama loved the little boys,

802
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and I understand that. But at the same time, that

803
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: little boy is going to grow up into an adult,

804
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: and you know, when he grew up into adult, he

805
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: has to look at the reality or of are my

806
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: actions contributing to these things? And on some you know,

807
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: society has raised a bunch of black men that don't

808
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: care and don't love the women around them, and that's

809
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: something that we can't fix as black women. You know,

810
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: like we tell white people, get your people. Black men,

811
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: get your men, you know, get your boys, you know,

812
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: get your young men. You know, talk to them, you know,

813
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: tell them this behavior is not correct. But you get

814
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: the reverse. You get, ah, they shit beholds and tricks.

815
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, you get fast as girls, you get you

816
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: know all that shit, and so when you bought up

817
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: in that environment, and society in general tells people that,

818
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: but particularly in talking about the black community here, you

819
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: buy into it because you're not taught the opposite of that.

820
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: Well also, uh, even a black men check other black

821
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: men black women aren't gonna like how it's done. Nope,

822
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: it's not going to pass all the sectional feminist walk test,

823
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: Like seeing how that sausage is made is not gonna

824
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 5: it's not gonna look like Twitter and how and it's

825
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 5: like clean line. This shit is affect The shit has

826
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: affected us so deeply, and we have bought into it

827
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 5: so much culturally. And I don't mean this to distinguish

828
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: black men from any other men, to be honest, I

829
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 5: think all men are misogynistic, and all men are most

830
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 5: harmful to the women that are the closest to their proximity.

831
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: So you know, I'm sure white men are very misogynistic

832
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 5: to white women. I'm sure Indian men are very misogynists

833
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: to Indian women. I'm sure, like you pick the denomination

834
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: of men, whether it's by race, creed, religion, or whatever,

835
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 5: they're gonna be the most fucked up towards the women.

836
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: Closest to them.

837
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: So it's not that I'm saying black men are unique

838
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 5: in this way, but because we do share an oppression

839
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 5: in race, there is this extra level of like emotional

840
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: offensiveness to the idea of us not being able to

841
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: understand how a marginalized person as a woman or gay

842
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 5: or whatever cannot be uh cannot we can't see that

843
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: for them, we can't see, Oh, this affects you even worse,

844
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 5: or this is even more or you are also affected

845
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 5: this way when we deny it, when we're saying, like

846
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 5: these girls trap this black man, or they grown women,

847
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 5: now leave them alone. What you while y'all mind your

848
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: business and shit like that. I see these comments on

849
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 5: Facebook on like these articles about r Kelly and shit,

850
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 5: and it's a lot of black men being like, mind

851
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 5: your business and they was grown, they grown now while

852
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 5: y'all leaving trying to bring a black man down? What

853
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: about Harvey Weinstein? What about you know? All these people?

854
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 5: And there's this this huge disconnect because we want to

855
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: participate so badly in white privilege and then being a

856
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: white man, and the only thing that's stopping us is

857
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: this this inconvenient racist thing. Other than that we want

858
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 5: to have the same ideology. You want to have the

859
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: same fucking goals in life, which is to be oppressive

860
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: and to never be oppressed.

861
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: And that is not enough.

862
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: And so yeah, we some black men will speak out

863
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: against it, some won't. But the ways that it's gonna

864
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: take form, and the years and years of work that

865
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: it would take to eradicate this, it's so long. It's

866
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: so long, and I get while women are just fucking

867
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 5: tired of it and not investing in this or being like,

868
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 5: fuck all these niggas.

869
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't care what they say. I understand, you know.

870
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: And if the thing is, if there's some type of

871
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 5: way for black women to not be affected by black men,

872
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: I don't know what it would be. Because you're still

873
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: birthing black men, you're still sometimes marrying black men, you're

874
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: still related to black men. They're still black men in

875
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 5: your social and community circles. And as a matter of survival,

876
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 5: I think some.

877
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 4: Women have taken on the.

878
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: Mantle of like trying to detox and learn and educate

879
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 5: these dudes, but not because it's like I'm so invested

880
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: in you, in this this love shit. Some of this

881
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: is just like I want to survive, and I need

882
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: you to not be fucked up because you're gonna be

883
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: around me no matter what. So I need you to

884
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 5: do better and I'm trying. I'm only saying this to

885
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: help you do better because it's really for me. And

886
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: then there are some black women that still to this

887
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 5: day are so dedicated to the love they have for

888
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: us that they really do sit around and try to

889
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: like figure it out, like they're.

890
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: Just like it's thankless.

891
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 5: Often it's expected, even though it shouldn't be, and it's

892
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 5: not reciprocated, and yet they still put in this time

893
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 5: to like save us from ourselves.

894
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: And I understand why women are divesting.

895
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 5: From that, and I never well, you know, I'll never

896
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: you know, tell anybody they shouldn't, you know, I understand

897
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 5: for your own survival and mental health, why being an

898
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: abusive environment that's just sucking the life out of you,

899
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 5: sucking the work out of you, sucking the emotional labor

900
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: out of you, and then being like that's what you

901
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 5: better do for your king.

902
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: You know, I get it.

903
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 5: So you know, I'm not telling you how to feel

904
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 5: this email about your own forgiveness and stuff.

905
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 4: I can only speak to myself.

906
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: And some of this is allowed to me because, like

907
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: I said, I am a man, so I can see

908
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: like progress and nuance in a person like chance that

909
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: if you're an absolutist or if you're just tired of

910
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: these niggas, you might not want to see that, or

911
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: you might not give a fuck, you know. For me,

912
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, it's good that jay Z at fucking

913
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: fifty five is able to start working on himself in

914
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 5: detoxifying and becoming a better, like a better person that

915
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 5: is able to like use his platform to advocate for.

916
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: Men to be better people through his own example.

917
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 5: I can see that and go, I appreciate that that's

918
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: better than what was happening before. But a lot of

919
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: people are gonna be like I can't see it, and

920
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck. It's too late, too long.

921
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: I'm tired of these niggas.

922
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: All right, And I can completely understand that. And it's

923
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: the same thing I feel like about that and race,

924
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, because most black people, you tell white people

925
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: to get you white people, but you're not gonna like

926
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: the methods. You're not gonna like the process, You're not

927
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: gonna have it was done. So that's why I send

928
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: my black ass out of it and let them fix it.

929
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Have but they're gonna fix it, and I just want

930
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: the end results, not telling me funny. I don't need

931
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: to be in the process. I don't need to deal

932
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: with the ad and it's attracting. I don't need to

933
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: deal with with the research that needs to be done

934
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: and all that that labor. I don't need to deal

935
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: with that. All I need is the end result is

936
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: that I'm not oppressed.

937
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 5: Remember that episode we had with that white dude had

938
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: a class where he was basically teaching other white dudes

939
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: to be ollis to black people and people. Some people

940
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 5: got mad, but I was like, that's the work I

941
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: want white allies to do because my black ass don't

942
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: want to do it, and he out here doing.

943
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 4: The shit like for whatever. I think it might have

944
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 4: been for free, but let's say he was getting paid.

945
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: That's fine.

946
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: If a black person doesn't want to do that job,

947
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 5: you go do it, and then the people that graduate

948
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 5: your class they need to go do it. The only

949
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: thing I care maybe one black person can oversee some

950
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: shit and.

951
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Be like this way, fuck me to get better. That's it.

952
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: But anyway back to this, I'm just so conflicting and

953
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 5: so anger with so many of the black people who

954
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 5: are choosing now to speak out and see the error

955
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: of their ways. Regarding R Kelly, it speaks to so

956
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: many situations where black women are treated poorly. In our

957
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: cries going her, I'm looking at my own family member

958
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: sideways like, oh, now you got something to say. At

959
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: the same time, I need to get on space to

960
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 5: write their wrongs.

961
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

962
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: I almost yelled her a woman in my uber pool

963
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: the other day over this. She shared her thoughts on

964
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: R Kelly and sounded like she was defending him. As

965
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: we continue to talk, I find out she herself had

966
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: been abused in similar ways by older men when she

967
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: was a teen.

968
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: She had been a lifelong fan of R.

969
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: Kelly, but was also a victim of the same type

970
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: of views he had inflicted on others. She admitted that

971
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 5: she was trying to process the feelings because the documentary

972
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 5: triggered so many feelings she had pushed away. She said

973
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: all these years she had just assumed that was the

974
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: way things are, or blamed herself. It was a lot

975
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: going on in that uber pool. Yeah, I can imagine,

976
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: but that is another story. I was just trying to

977
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: get to work on time. We ended up having a

978
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: good talk. Anyway, I'm still processing it all, as I

979
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: know many of us are.

980
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry this so long. Enjoyed the rest of y'alls week.

981
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Nah, I get it. Yeah, I completely get it, and

982
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I completely understand it. It is a lot to process

983
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: when you are on the receiving end of a lot

984
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: of the abuse.

985
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 5: There's also this imposting us where we learned something or

986
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: we been on something and then we become like woke hipsters,

987
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: and that is not productive. And I've seen a lot

988
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: of people do it in the way of R Kelly.

989
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: I'm a person that has not fucked with R Kelly

990
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: in forever. I can't think of the last time I

991
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: really fucked with this dude. I want to say the

992
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: our album was the last album of his I had,

993
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: and even then with me and Carol riding the car,

994
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: you know, we're very gallows humored people, but we would

995
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 5: just make jokes about how all the songs was probably

996
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 5: about him fucking some little.

997
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: Girl years ago.

998
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so we never were able to like get

999
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: into R Kelly again because I'm like this nigga is

1000
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 5: singing about fucking little girls.

1001
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: How is he still on the street?

1002
00:46:59,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: Know?

1003
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 5: But at the same time, during this whole documentary stuff,

1004
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 5: I haven't been going around being like, oh so now

1005
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: you niggas want to because ultimately it doesn't help anybody.

1006
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't help anybody that I'm like, oh,

1007
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 5: so now you want to do something. To be honest,

1008
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: that's what the fucking documentary was for. It was for

1009
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 5: people who were not on board and were not hip

1010
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: to everything, or we're not speaking even though they knew

1011
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: this shit was wrong and they were just like, oh,

1012
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just leave it alone. It was for them

1013
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 5: to start speaking. It was for them to be encouraged

1014
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: to be like, yo, I don't fuck with this dude.

1015
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: We need to get him up out of the paint.

1016
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: The You know, there's gonna be some revisionist history to it,

1017
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 5: honestly because people don't want to feel bad. But the

1018
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: truth of the matter is this was the point for

1019
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 5: people to get to where a lot of us already were,

1020
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: which was fucked this dude, so yeah, it's doing his job.

1021
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a lot of events that happened that

1022
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: The end rel is you gets people attention and you

1023
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: make people you force people to look at something that

1024
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: they otherwise ignore purposely or just ignore it because they

1025
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: feel like that's the way society is.

1026
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 5: Chris Hansen rights here, I guess I'm to catch a predator.

1027
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 5: Drake was brought up because somebody posted an old video

1028
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 5: him growing a seventeen year old at a concert and

1029
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 5: then kissing her after she told him her age.

1030
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: Oh, the crowd was kind of cheering and joking about.

1031
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: It in the video too.

1032
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 5: All right, yeah, I haven't seen the video. I can't

1033
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 5: really speak to it. I don't know how. This is

1034
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: another thing that I think people don't know because maybe

1035
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 5: they're going by porn or something where the eighteen is

1036
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: how old you got to be to dou porn or

1037
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 5: to go to military.

1038
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: The age of consent is not eighteen everywhere.

1039
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: So a lot of this stuff that people are pointing

1040
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: out where they're like, it's seventeen and he kissed her,

1041
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: And I don't know why he ain't in jail, because

1042
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: you might not. It might not be illegal for to

1043
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: have a seventeen year old stage make out with you

1044
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: or some shit wherever the fuck he was. Now, I'm

1045
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: not saying that's what happened. But when people bring these

1046
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 5: things up, that might be the problem because a lot

1047
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: of this discussion is about morality, not legality, right, So

1048
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 5: the things that are legal in a lot of these states,

1049
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: even with r Kelly having sex that seventeen year old

1050
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 5: girl from Atlanta where from Georgia and then going to

1051
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: Florida and having sex with her, those that might not

1052
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 5: be illegal, Like people are like tech lock him up

1053
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: for that. That might he may be well within his

1054
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 5: legal rights to do that shit. The problem is morally,

1055
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 5: we're like, this is not morally up on the up

1056
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: and up. And if people feel that way about Drake,

1057
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: where we don't have necessarily proof that he's doing anything illegal,

1058
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: I still have to see how they could be like,

1059
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: but morally, he's just a fucking creep. And that's that's

1060
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: why I tried to make our discussion about this a

1061
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 5: little bit more about society, because society does this. We

1062
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 5: value these young girls essentially, and we do this thing

1063
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: where it's like, Hugh Hefner is a fucking playboy.

1064
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he's the man.

1065
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: He's he's seventy five, he's eighty five, and all his

1066
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: women are seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old playboy models

1067
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: and nobody goes, well, that's just kind of fucking creepy,

1068
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 5: isn't it. Like until very recently, people weren't even saying

1069
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 5: how creepy that shit was. He had a TV show

1070
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 5: that was about the fact that he was fucking these

1071
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 5: little young women, Like that's the thing to me, is like, uh,

1072
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: you know, we're trying to single out individual people, but

1073
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: society is at fault for this.

1074
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, because truth be told, if society in

1075
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: general was as outrage as a lot of people, because

1076
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: some people are really outraged, but some people are outrage

1077
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: flopping pretend to being you will actually go and demand

1078
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: that these ages increase in your state because a lot

1079
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: of states is sixteen seventeen. You know, I don't know

1080
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: if I don't know if it's eighteen in some states,

1081
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: I hope it is, but I guarantee you most states

1082
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: it is not eighteen. It's sixteen and seventeen and some

1083
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: states fifteen. In some states you can get married even

1084
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: younger than that. You know, like, go and demand this,

1085
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: Go to your congressman, your sitterner and be like, hey,

1086
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: do research, but like, what the fuck is my law

1087
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: about getting married. What the fuck is my law about

1088
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: this in my state and go and demand that this

1089
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: shit is his increased.

1090
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: Well, here's the other part, especially with R. Kelly in

1091
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: the later years, he picking women that are eighteen nineteen correct,

1092
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: So now what do you do?

1093
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 4: Right?

1094
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: So now do we do because we as a society

1095
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: have decided that that's old enough to decide to.

1096
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: Do what you want to.

1097
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: So we go find out that at eighteen you joined

1098
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: in a sex coat and being this dude's basically sex

1099
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: slave and he's fucking abusive to you and you just

1100
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: are okay with it.

1101
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: What are we supposed to do with this?

1102
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1103
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: These people, these predators learn and evolve over time.

1104
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: Like you know, I don't know what to do with this.

1105
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: It's not as clean as cut as people say, you know,

1106
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 5: and he may end up not going to jail if

1107
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: he has navigated these laws now to where he can't.

1108
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: My hope is that some of these people coming forward

1109
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 5: that were inspired by this documentary, because I think there's

1110
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 5: a lot more victims, and I think they'll come forward

1111
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 5: and they'll be like, maybe one of those things, okay,

1112
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 5: maybe he'll get caught through something he did to other people.

1113
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 5: I hope anyway, Dia says R. Kelly and people blaming

1114
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: parents sometimes I think people use the wrong word. I

1115
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: don't blame the parents, I blame the perpetrator. But parents

1116
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 5: have responsibility to me. There's a difference between blame and responsibility.

1117
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: Saying someone should have accountability and responsibility to me doesn't

1118
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: mean I blame them for what happened to their children.

1119
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 5: Responsibility and accountability can be worked with. If I took

1120
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: a child to the store and they got lowered away

1121
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 5: by a stranger, I'm not to blame for the stranger's actions,

1122
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 5: but I would feel responsible because I should have been

1123
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 5: more diligent. I'm sure the parents are heartbroken, but we

1124
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 5: put a lot of stigma on responsibility because we use

1125
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: it like blame. Uh sure, that's the difference between responsibility

1126
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 5: and blame. I think as well. But what I saw

1127
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 5: was not responsibility. That's not what I saw. I saw

1128
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 5: that wouldn't happen to my kid.

1129
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: That's what I saw.

1130
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: It was that simple. It was as if my kid

1131
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: is too morally strong.

1132
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 5: My children because, like I said, when we're talking about

1133
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: blaming parents or saying his parents aren't responsible enough, for

1134
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 5: a seventeen year old, eighteen year old, nineteen year.

1135
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: Old, What the fuck are you supposed to do?

1136
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 5: Your kid has some autonomy at seventeen, what you would

1137
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 5: hope is that they don't run into one of these

1138
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: monstrous motherfuckers like this correct, and this dude is a

1139
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 5: supreme monster. That is not like you saying, oh, at

1140
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 5: seventeen when some boy comes over for prime, I'm gonna

1141
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 5: go over and embarrass him and be like you better

1142
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 5: take my my daughter better be home by midnight. He

1143
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: is not the same, Like, this dude has money, power, fame,

1144
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 5: and all this shit, and he's focusing it, hyper focused

1145
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: on finding these girls that are susceptible to it and and.

1146
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Getting them out of there.

1147
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 5: Like so, I don't know that our impulse to pass around,

1148
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: like the complicity of the parents.

1149
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: Is productive in this.

1150
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: It's not to say that the parents can't be complicit,

1151
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 5: but it's just to say that the ideas that were

1152
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 5: floating out before the documentary was almost like parents were

1153
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: pimping their daughters out, like, oh, I'm just trying to

1154
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: make sure that I get some money out of this,

1155
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 5: so let's just do have sex with my daughter. I

1156
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck, and it turns out it doesn't

1157
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 5: seem it was that way, and I think them putting

1158
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 5: a human face on the documentary really helped that. Of

1159
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 5: course the parents are gonna feel responsible. You're responsible for

1160
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: your child, so of course you're gonna feel responsible. And

1161
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: I think the worst of the parents are the ones

1162
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 5: that are like not saying anything, that are like, yeah,

1163
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: my daughter's there since she was fourteen, and you know what,

1164
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 5: they ain't doing that wrong, leave us alone. Those are

1165
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: the ones that I don't understand, you know. But also

1166
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 5: I don't have that trauma. I don't know what they

1167
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 5: what the experience was like, and I don't know how

1168
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: you rationalize something like that, Like I don't know how

1169
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: Leah's parents can be like leave r Kelly and don't

1170
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 5: talk about my daughter no more, because I haven't felt it,

1171
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: you know, But it has to be a feeling that

1172
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 5: that makes them be like, I don't want you to

1173
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: quote unquote tarnish her legacy by attacking it to this monster.

1174
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: And the difficult level of computations you gotta do on

1175
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: your mental to be able to get to that point.

1176
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 5: I don't understand. I hope I never understand, because to me,

1177
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 5: it's very simple. But to them, I don't know. It's

1178
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 5: something about like I don't know, it's something that I

1179
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: can't understand. But I feel what you're saying.

1180
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: This is not to say parents aren't responsible for their

1181
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: children and that there's no such thing as bad parenting

1182
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: and shit like that. There is.

1183
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 5: I just don't know that is as simple as applying

1184
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: that to these folks.

1185
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: And I feel like it's not the priority. So I'm

1186
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: letting it slide. But but I get your points. Some

1187
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: people aren't gonna.

1188
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 5: Let it slide, correct even he says, I have watched

1189
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: all six hours of the documentary.

1190
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: I have.

1191
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 5: I watched all six hours of the documentary. Some of

1192
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: it I had heard about and some I didn't.

1193
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, same here.

1194
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: I know some people could separate the art from the

1195
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: artists in a lot of cases, but this is one

1196
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 5: I cannot now that I know most of the songs

1197
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: are about his personal experiences, which were at the expense.

1198
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: Of young girls of color.

1199
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 5: I won't play his music anymore. It's fuck him forever,

1200
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: and I hope he burns in hell. I feel you've

1201
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: been on that train. It's wild though that it's wild

1202
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 5: that there was still shit.

1203
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Yeah, a lot of shit I didn't know.

1204
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 5: It's wild because I the older stuff was not as

1205
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 5: known to me because I really just did. I loved

1206
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 5: hip hop, but I was not reading every fucking magazine.

1207
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 5: I wasn't looking at all the interviews on MTV. Some

1208
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 5: of that footage was brand new to me, Like same

1209
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 5: they did interviews in the same close.

1210
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: It was.

1211
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: It was crazy some like I knew some of the

1212
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: later stuff since we've done the show, especially because we've

1213
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 5: been on his ass from jump.

1214
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just didn't even know some of these things.

1215
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: Because I was living some of that stuff and just

1216
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: and just did not know. Like I said, I'm not

1217
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: I've been in Charlotte, North Carolina, So I did not

1218
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: hear about a lot of this stuff until action, until

1219
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: I was older.

1220
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, technology really caught up with him, like the

1221
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 5: fact that our stories become global instead of local. It

1222
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 5: caught up with him because people are like in Chicago,

1223
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 5: we knew all this, Trey says, Hey, Roder Karen, here's

1224
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 5: what I think about think it would take to finally

1225
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 5: bring R.

1226
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 4: Kelly down.

1227
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 5: A judge similar to the judge of the Copsy case

1228
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: who wants to make it happen no matter what.

1229
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: A judge who can't.

1230
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: Be paid off or to drop the case, like the

1231
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 5: judge in Florida that dropped the child porn case against

1232
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: r Kelly probably was a prosecutor who wants to make

1233
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: it happen no matter what and can't be paid off.

1234
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 5: To a change of venue to some other county other

1235
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: than Cook County if possible. Finally, people who have to

1236
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 5: keep protesting that the people that are giving R Kelly checks,

1237
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: his record, label, concert venards, etc. Once the money stops flowing,

1238
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 5: the jail house will come calling. That's another thing. He

1239
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: might not be that powerful anymore, which is part of

1240
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 5: the reason these things are getting made. But sadly, as

1241
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 5: long as people can make money off of them, he's

1242
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: powerful enough.

1243
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Correct.

1244
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 5: Hopefully these sources of things can help bringing him down,

1245
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: because this dude's pure evil. One of the main things

1246
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 5: that creased me out is hearing about how he will

1247
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 5: hang outside of the schools as soon as the school's

1248
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 5: let out. That has been the first creepy thing I've

1249
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: always heard about his nasty motherfucker, going all the way

1250
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 5: back to two thousand and three, two thousand and four

1251
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 5: for me. But of course in the documentary found out

1252
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 5: he had been paying out some of the costs to

1253
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: let him know something was about to go down and

1254
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: involved him, so that could explain him getting away or

1255
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 5: hanging out around that school. But still it still is

1256
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 5: just mind boggling to me. But anyway, fuck R Kelly,

1257
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 5: anyone protecting them. Thanks guys, yep CT says, I'm glad

1258
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: the victims are getting a voice, the story is being told.

1259
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's not about the validity of the story, it's

1260
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 5: about the timing. And with the rise of social media

1261
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: and introduction of the series, I think R. Kelly is

1262
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: going to be brought to justice, even though he's been

1263
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 5: free for too long and the documentary may have undercut

1264
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 5: the message. In the end, the truth has been let

1265
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 5: out and people have been forced to pick a side.

1266
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: I hope he goes to jail for the rest of

1267
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: his life.

1268
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 5: I feel you it was something someone said that, oh yeah,

1269
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 5: in the hanging around school parking lots and shit. I

1270
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 5: don't know the legality of that, but like, once again,

1271
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 5: that's not that uncommon like not, and I don't mean

1272
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 5: just R Kelly, just there are dudes that you know,

1273
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 5: prey on these young kids. And the problem is that's

1274
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: the age where kids think they're grown. Yes, and they

1275
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 5: do have some level of autonomy. Because if you have

1276
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: a child, those of you that have children that will

1277
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: be teenagers, that are teenagers, that have been teenagers, you

1278
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 5: understand that there becomes a give and take in the

1279
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: middle of that age somewhere where it's like, I need

1280
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 5: to be able to leave you at the home by yourself.

1281
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: I need to be able to depend on you to

1282
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 5: get to and from school.

1283
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: On your own. I need you to be responsible.

1284
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: Like it's not.

1285
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you're grown, you know, but there's some

1286
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 5: things we're gonna have to start teaching you that are

1287
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: about you becoming grown.

1288
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: And it may mean you have a job.

1289
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 5: It may mean I have to trust you that you

1290
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: are going to your job, you know. It may mean

1291
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 5: that when you say you're in an after school program,

1292
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 5: I have to believe that's where you are.

1293
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: That's why when I say I.

1294
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 5: Don't really want to get into blaming parents, because this

1295
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 5: is that age where someone that is a monstrous predator

1296
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 5: can take advantage of the fact that you do want

1297
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 5: your like you're not doing anything wrong to want to

1298
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 5: trust your kid a little bit, and your kid essentially

1299
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 5: isn't really wrong. They're just young and dumb, so someone

1300
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 5: can take advantage of that. Like you're grown, your parents

1301
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 5: don't need to tell you what you're doing. You're hanging

1302
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: out with me, I'm rt Kelly and they go, oh, yeah,

1303
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 5: I'm hanging out.

1304
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 4: R Kelly's so cool, you know.

1305
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 5: And you as a parent of thinking like, oh, she's

1306
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 5: supposed to be at school, you know, or she's supposed

1307
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 5: to be at work.

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Speaker 4: That one woman that went and.

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01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: Got her kid in California, she was like her kid

1310
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,959
Speaker 5: that had been lying. The other girl was not going

1311
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 5: to school. You know, I can't really say they parents

1312
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 5: are doing a bad job necessarily just from that. Maybe

1313
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 5: they were, maybe they weren't. But end of the day,

1314
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 5: I know we can all agree that R.

1315
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 4: Kelly's a monster. The poe was.

1316
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 5: Did the last hour Surviving ur Kelly hurt the doc

1317
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 5: the documentary yes a little, yes a lot, not at all?

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: Or I didn't watch it. Forty nine percent of our

1319
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: audiences did not watch it.

1320
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 5: Totally understand self care and all that eight percent said

1321
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 5: didn't hurt it at all.

1322
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 4: Having Charlemagne and.

1323
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 5: All the people on there, Wendy Williams, you know yes

1324
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 5: a lot. Eleven percent said it hurt it a lot,

1325
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 5: and thirty one percent said yeah a little. The comments

1326
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 5: were phil This series makes me feel horrible. But what's

1327
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 5: worse is these defenders that keep trying to deflect their

1328
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 5: every turn about the whole situation. But what about insert

1329
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 5: white person person, folks and such, the people that stayed

1330
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 5: that say why after so long? Know you want to

1331
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 5: say something? Or we knew he was like this all

1332
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 5: this time, but now you have a problem with him.

1333
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: I grew up in Texas.

1334
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 5: A whole bunch of this stuff was new information to me,

1335
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 5: and I wasn't even a teenager when I believe I

1336
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 5: could when I believe, like a Flowers release, we were

1337
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 5: failed by the generation before us, and that let this

1338
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 5: man cook will also shaping their younger family members to

1339
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 5: think that this was a whole conspiracy to destroyed his

1340
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 5: image because of stepping the name of love. I want

1341
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 5: all the survivors to find peace and the families get

1342
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 5: the loved ones that they have lost back. I feel you,

1343
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 5: Dexter says, much like itself, my heroes have always been

1344
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 5: my parents. I never really understood the worship with someone

1345
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 5: you don't know. That's just my life. No offense to

1346
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 5: those who came up in a different manner that said R.

1347
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 5: Kelly is not only toxic but venomous. He has allegedly

1348
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 5: spread his poison to.

1349
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: The most susceptible individuals in our community, our young women.

1350
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 5: To hel uh those who those who defend this monster

1351
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 5: and blame the victims of his abuse, and to hell

1352
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 5: with those who find can't find any empathy for the

1353
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: parents that have been put in these situations.

1354
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: I watched the whole thing.

1355
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: It was hard for discussing and anger about this trash

1356
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 5: individual and those who are complicit and hurting these children.

1357
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 5: I'm encouraging, encouraged by seeing the light is once again

1358
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 5: being placed on a piece of shit, and hope that

1359
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 5: he is finally brought to justice. Lakida says the documentary

1360
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 5: made me feel sad, guilty and the shame. It was

1361
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 5: so hard to watch. I wasn't old enough to have

1362
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 5: done anything besides question while my aunts and uncles thought

1363
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: it was okay. But rather than the sector analyzed, I

1364
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 5: would shrug and step in the name of love, literally

1365
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 5: falling in line with everyone else side note, I really

1366
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 5: love that song. It's hard a bunch of question marks.

1367
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 5: Those girls were around my age at one point, what

1368
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 5: I have been believed. It makes me feel retroactively unprotected,

1369
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 5: if that makes any sense.

1370
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 4: And while yall, yeah, it makes perfect sense.

1371
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 5: And while Yon says king, I really hope my queen

1372
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: has a contingency plan for what twenty nineteen may be playing,

1373
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 5: because well, you know, I don't know what you mean

1374
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 5: by it. By that, Uh yeah, I don't understand that

1375
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 5: their last reference, but I guess with jay Z, yeah,

1376
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: but I guess I don't know how this would involve

1377
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: jay Z, to be honest, not saying that. I mean

1378
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 5: they left that part of the document the documentary, which

1379
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 5: I thought was kind of whack.

1380
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: But I don't see it as like.

1381
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 5: Jay Z's gonna have to answer for R Kelly if

1382
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: that's the case, unless there's some criminality to it that

1383
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 5: y'all are implying, But I don't think it was. I

1384
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: don't think it was any criminality by other celebrities and

1385
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 5: shit in this situation, I really think motherfuckers just don't care,

1386
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: you know. Like I listen to movie trailer reviews and

1387
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 5: Chris has this theory that like some of these other

1388
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 5: celebrities and stuff that weren't on the documentary and didn't

1389
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 5: want to call out R Kelly didn't do it because

1390
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: they may be on some of these sex tapes, so

1391
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 5: he may have evidence on them is something, And I

1392
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 5: gotta say I don't think so. Because they had the

1393
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 5: women that were girls at the time who were assaulted,

1394
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: and they were out there telling all the stuff that

1395
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: happened to them. I don't think they would have been like,

1396
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 5: but let me protect jay Z in this situation. I

1397
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 5: think jay Z would have been involved in him like

1398
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 5: and also R Kelly made me have sex with these

1399
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 5: other dudes and.

1400
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: Shit like that.

1401
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't think that's why what happened.

1402
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: He was successed with hisself, so there was no sharing.

1403
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: He was somebody who did not believe in cheering.

1404
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 5: That's how it seems to me. But let me say this,

1405
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 5: I think it's worse to be complicit and maybe you

1406
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 5: didn't do anything, but it's worse to just be like,

1407
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 5: I didn't care. He was making money, So no, he

1408
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 5: doesn't have no blackmail on me. There's no I didn't

1409
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 5: participate in this. I think what he did is fucked

1410
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 5: up and sick. But it was a way that I

1411
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 5: was gonna make money, and all I cared about at

1412
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 5: the end of the day was fuck these little girls,

1413
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 5: I'm making money.

1414
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 4: To me, that's worse.

1415
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: I don't think, like I said, I don't think you

1416
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 5: have to be complicit in the ways that like his

1417
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 5: people around him were where they protected him and kept

1418
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 5: the girls separate and got the plane tickets and travel

1419
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 5: and houses. Nah, it's worse to me to be like,

1420
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna work with this dude because I might make

1421
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 5: some money.

1422
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: That's worse.

1423
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 5: Brooklyn shoe Ba says, I don't have cable, so I

1424
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 5: didn't see it. But from what I heard, it was

1425
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 5: damaging enough to R Kelly, so the last hour would

1426
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 5: not heard it.

1427
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 4: I liked, I liked you. It was like I didn't

1428
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 4: see it.

1429
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 5: Well, let me give you my opinion on the last

1430
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 5: hout my words that folks who needed to watch this

1431
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 5: did not yet that would be my word too, or worse,

1432
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: they watched it and didn't care anyway, which I saw.

1433
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: A lot of.

1434
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 8: Uh.

1435
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: Peter versus Black Lives is eighteen nineteen. See what we

1436
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: got here?

1437
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Got four comments.

1438
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 5: Anthony Animal thug Tato says, I think Tiffany Hattis might

1439
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 5: have just been thrown off by the New Year's crowd

1440
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 5: or experience. One common thing I heard from listening to

1441
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 5: different podcasts hosted by comedians is that you never do

1442
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 5: New Year's sets ever. These large venues are passing out

1443
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 5: free drinks for hours, and it makes it harder to

1444
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 5: control when you get paid the premium to be there.

1445
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 5: I know she admitted the bombing, but a big crowd

1446
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 5: of people on eleven didn't help her situation. Yeah, but

1447
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 5: I heard, I mean she forgot her jokes. I don't know,

1448
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: like she fucked up. I mean it's okay. She can

1449
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 5: fuck up and still be, you know, one of our faves,

1450
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: and I still want her to do well and hopefully

1451
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 5: she take it as a lesson and do a job

1452
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 5: next time, you know. I think both things can be true.

1453
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 5: The crowd could have been unruly. I think what I

1454
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: saw wasn't necessarily an unruly crowd other than you know,

1455
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: I saw that dude that made a video trying to

1456
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 5: help her. He obviously was out of line, but it

1457
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 5: seemed like a lot of people just felt like they

1458
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 5: didn't get what that money was. They paid money for

1459
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 5: so it is what it is. Michelle says Rod, I

1460
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: have to confess that, as a person with verifiable African ancestry,

1461
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: I not only enjoyed, but actually pay good money to

1462
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 5: watch those talking dog movies that you say black people

1463
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 5: don't watch. Call me an outlier, but I loved them.

1464
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 5: I recently rented the new one with the Grandfather from

1465
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 5: This is Us, isn't it? And I'm on the wait

1466
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 5: list to rent the British one about the dog called Patrick.

1467
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 5: Also own a copy of Marley and Me. Sorry, Rob,

1468
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 5: but we're not a monolift.

1469
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 4: You know what, Michelle.

1470
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 5: I continue to say stuff like this because I like

1471
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: when you special snowflake black people feel the need to

1472
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 5: write in to be like I'm the black person that

1473
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 5: does that.

1474
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: No.

1475
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 5: It makes me feel good because I can say, like,

1476
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 5: black people don't kill and eat babies, and one of

1477
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 5: you motherfuckers is gonna be like, h let me hit

1478
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 5: my type writer out and send a strongly worded letter

1479
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 5: to let Rod know that I absolutely will eat a

1480
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 5: small child.

1481
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 4: Okay, ain't me that hot house? Right? So I get it.

1482
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 5: Y'all can't help yourselves, and this is always funny to me,

1483
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 5: but I will continue to make these stereotypical jokes, and

1484
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: y'all will continue to write in to let me know

1485
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: that you need to step on my joke and try

1486
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 5: to kill.

1487
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: It, even though you obviously knew I was just joking.

1488
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: Trey right saying, Hey, Ryan and Karen.

1489
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 5: So happy to hear that Centoya Brown was finally granted clemency,

1490
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: but I'm still shocked at the people who sent her

1491
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 5: to jail for killing the man who fucking forced her

1492
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 5: in the sex trafficking as a child. That's a self

1493
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 5: defense argument that should have been made on her behalf.

1494
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 5: This world is such trash for not giving a shit

1495
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: about these young black girls being sextually a side. Whether

1496
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 5: it's Centoyo or r Kelly, victims are unknown victims. It

1497
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 5: is beyond crazy to see stupid people defend folks who

1498
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 5: do this to other humans, being especially children. But I'm

1499
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 5: thankful for everyone teams always caught out these evil motherfuckers.

1500
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 5: If the only way we can continue to protect people,

1501
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 5: as it's the only way we continue to protect people

1502
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 5: as well as we can. Thanks Roding, Karen, I'd argue

1503
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 5: we're not even doing a good job of protecting you.

1504
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: Also, thanks Roder. Karen for the TBGWT code.

1505
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: I finally got you to use it for a discount

1506
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 5: on Bebel's site for that new skin care line for men.

1507
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 5: Thanks again, Hey, enjoy yes, enjoy shot to Bevoe. I've

1508
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 5: just shaved yesterday. The poe was who you got black

1509
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 5: lives or Peter Karen black eyes? All right, ninety nine

1510
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 5: percent of people agree with you, but one person, one

1511
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 5: person voter for Peter.

1512
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: One lonely person.

1513
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 4: Miss ct says that Peter vote tried it. It's funny.

1514
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 5: I always say, man, whenever we get one hundred percent,

1515
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 5: that's when I'm like, yo, these motherfuckers really felt that,

1516
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 5: because whether it's a joke or not, there's always one

1517
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 5: motherfucker willing to just go the other way.

1518
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: Right.

1519
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: It's like, wow, you never see that.

1520
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: Who Let they doll vote on the computer.

1521
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 5: Somebody's cattle, they they laptop, somebody cal uh. Patri Caatrise says,

1522
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 5: I hate this episode eighteen twenty cancel Cooking with Kevin Spacey.

1523
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: I hate when black men say it's none of my

1524
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 5: business to me. What they're really saying is I don't

1525
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 5: want to know, because I don't want to hold anyone

1526
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 5: accountable for disgusting baby, including myself.

1527
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1528
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 5: Man, that's that's kind of what it means for everybody

1529
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 5: to be honest, not even just black men. A lot

1530
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 5: of motherfuckers like that it's none of my business. And

1531
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: the thing is, there's a lot of shit that is

1532
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 5: not your business, So it's okay to mind your business

1533
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 5: in a lot.

1534
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 4: Of cases, but uh, it's always weird when motherfuckers pull

1535
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: that out.

1536
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 5: They be the gossiping, most messy at motherfuckers and then

1537
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 5: they wait till somebody do something absolutely wrong or be

1538
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 5: like it's not my business.

1539
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 4: Like well, the kind of.

1540
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 5: Is, especially if it was your business Andrea if the

1541
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 5: like like Dame Dash being like, it's not my business.

1542
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 5: What was going on when you're talking about r Kelly

1543
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 5: and then people bringing up, oh, that's what you were

1544
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 5: talking about in.

1545
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: That last comment. Jay Z and Foxy Brown rumors.

1546
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 5: Nick Cannon has a podcast where he tried to imply

1547
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 5: that jay Z and Foxy Brown were dating when she

1548
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 5: was seventeen or something like that. I don't know if

1549
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 5: it's true or not that honestly, legit is the first

1550
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 5: time I ever heard that, and I was a big

1551
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 5: fan of rap at the time. And jay Z and

1552
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: Foxy And maybe it's just because I wasn't real magazines

1553
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 5: or whatever. I just never remember people being like they're dating.

1554
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, if that comes out, I could see that

1555
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 5: being a problem.

1556
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1557
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't know what the consent laws

1558
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: and shit around that are in New York or yeah,

1559
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 5: they're from New York, so I you know, I can't

1560
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 5: speak to the legality of it, but morally, I can

1561
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 5: see people feeling like that's a problem. Andrea, if the

1562
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 5: videos are current, I wonder if she did them under

1563
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 5: the rest In the documentary, she spoke about how he

1564
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 5: was hell Child's port several times out of spite. That's

1565
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 5: a good point. It's a good point. She could have

1566
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 5: been saying all that stuff about him being a good

1567
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 5: dad or good provider and because you don't want to

1568
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 5: lose her child support money because howtome Kid's gonna survive

1569
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 5: and shit correct, Turch says, Hi, guys, I hope R

1570
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 5: Kelly dies soon, very very soon. Jail would be nice

1571
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 5: because it might make the victims feel like they got justice,

1572
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 5: even if it was not for their personal case. It

1573
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 5: won't be real punishment though. He'll be treated like a

1574
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 5: king inside by prisoners and guards alike. Because there are

1575
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 5: still people who refuse to believe or don't see anything

1576
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: wrong with his crimes. He'll never learn his lesson to

1577
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 5: feel remorse because his worldview was so warped and enabled

1578
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: by others. Yep, and a lot of people share. I

1579
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 5: don't want any of families he victimized to take him out.

1580
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 5: He already ruined their lives enough, and jail would just

1581
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 5: be one more thing that stills precious time.

1582
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 1: For their lives. Yeah.

1583
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 5: I would be okay with somebody killing him from one

1584
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 5: of them families, but only if it ended like a

1585
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 5: time to kill when he got off, you know, it's.

1586
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 4: Like, yes, they deserve to die, and I hope they burning.

1587
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 5: Air somehow to Matthew McConaughey gives a great speech and

1588
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 5: they get away. I honestly don't even know what I

1589
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 5: would personally define its justice at this point. Peace hurt Yep,

1590
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: Jennka says Ellen girl. Why why are you caping for

1591
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 5: Kevin Hart? That's literally all I have for Kevin. But

1592
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 5: speaking of people unnecessarily caping for black men, R Kelly, Honestly,

1593
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 5: it's been terrorizing for me. I haven't been able to

1594
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 5: watch the documentary person I didn't feel I didn't need

1595
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 5: more proof hearing my coworker say friends talk about it

1596
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 5: has been hard. Oh, and my friends talk about it's

1597
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 5: been hard. It feels like Bill Coley Trot all over again.

1598
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 5: I've ended several relationships, include to my best friend, because

1599
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: people in my life, mostly black women, which hurt on

1600
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 5: a whole other level, want to ignore the facts to

1601
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 5: defend this man. They don't even know it's bullshit, and

1602
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 5: I can't. I love y'all for being an escape from

1603
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 5: the madness.

1604
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: We was like this.

1605
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't feel like an escape to be honest, because

1606
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna talk about it, and I don't want us

1607
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 5: to be a show.

1608
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 4: That ignores shit just so other people can be like.

1609
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 5: It's not happening, because, you know, part of what I

1610
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 5: feel like our show has always been is like we're

1611
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 5: willing to talk about these things that are difficult and

1612
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 5: not kind of just act like it's not happening in

1613
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 5: the world.

1614
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: But we have our own things that we avoid.

1615
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 5: You know, we don't talk about like Trump as much

1616
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 5: as a lot of shows. Some shows have become Trump only. Basically,

1617
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 5: our podcast dedicated to just Trump. So you know, it

1618
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 5: is about doing your lane and shit, and we try

1619
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 5: to add some humor and some fun and do what

1620
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 5: we always do and and you knows, and not make

1621
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 5: it just the saddest sad show of all time and shit.

1622
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 5: But I totally do understand, you know, the idea of

1623
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 5: like not having an escape from this.

1624
01:14:53,400 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: And we keep a balance between slave him singing and

1625
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: and set their thing on five. We try to find

1626
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: a medium between those two avenues. You know, sometimes we

1627
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: do hit both of them, but we don't stay the loone.

1628
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: That's the thing we can't. You can't stay there. Yeah,

1629
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you listening.

1630
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 5: But I also understand, like I said, Karen says Kevin Harkey, Oh,

1631
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 5: and I know what I meant to say. And yes,

1632
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 5: lost in the conversation in this And I don't want

1633
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 5: to make it seem like it's okay, because it's not.

1634
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 5: But it just feels like it's not my place. But yes,

1635
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 5: there are a ton of black women that will support R.

1636
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 5: Kelly and join in and support and encourage those men

1637
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 5: who are also rape culture people.

1638
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: And I know that's frustrating because it's not convenient.

1639
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 5: It's not like people keep framing this conversation as black

1640
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 5: men versus black women in a lot of cases when

1641
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 5: I see people talk about it, but it's really not.

1642
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 4: It's it's culture.

1643
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 5: It's black culture versus people that are like tired of

1644
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 5: this shit, you know, And it's a lot of people complicit,

1645
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 5: a lot of people that are okay with it, men

1646
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: and women. When I look in those conversations, it's not

1647
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 5: just men, it's not and it's it's sad because it

1648
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 5: is only black people. Though I haven't been in any

1649
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 5: spaces where I've seen white people. And if y'all really

1650
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 5: want to, if you really want to get into it,

1651
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 5: where are the white people?

1652
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: Where are they?

1653
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: You know?

1654
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 4: Like they just don't care about this.

1655
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: And in a large part when people talk about how

1656
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 5: he's been allowed to operate, it's not really because of us.

1657
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 5: I know some of it is because of us, because

1658
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 5: we'reas fan based as black people, blah blah blah. But

1659
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: we talk about the people with the positions to be

1660
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 5: like cut his money off. There are white people that

1661
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 5: don't care as long as they know that there's a

1662
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 5: means to get some money out of this shit. RCA

1663
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck The venues don't give a fuck.

1664
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 5: The artists that collaborate with him that aren't black, they

1665
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck either. They you know, like I think,

1666
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 5: Lady God God apologize because you know, she's in the

1667
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 5: middle of this Oscar season run and people have been

1668
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 5: putting pressure on her and she worked with him well

1669
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 5: after the allegations and all that stuff. But you want

1670
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,480
Speaker 5: to know what else, Nick Cannon apologized, chance to rapper apologize.

1671
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,440
Speaker 5: That's sat Marvin Sapp dude or whatever didn't apologize.

1672
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: He doubled down.

1673
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 5: But my point being like the money is the thing.

1674
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 5: They feel like he can still get to some money,

1675
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 5: so they don't give a fuck about this, you know,

1676
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: and they for the most part, they think this is

1677
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 5: some black shit.

1678
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 4: Oh, well, that's for your community to handle.

1679
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: What the fuck? You know.

1680
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 5: Imagine if we had that response to their Times Up shit,

1681
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 5: you know, every time they talk about this dude and

1682
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 5: that times up and black people was like, well that's

1683
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 5: for some white people to handle. Nah, we'll be like,

1684
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 5: give him the fuck out of here too.

1685
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, that that has been really insulting.

1686
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 5: I've tried not to even talk about that, but that's

1687
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 5: it's obvious and a parent. God, I wish I knew

1688
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: her name. Someone wrote a piece on this. Fuck, I'm

1689
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 5: so sorry. I read so was Medium piece on this

1690
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 5: and fucking forgot her name. I don't even know how to.

1691
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: Find it now.

1692
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: What there was someone who wrote a piece on Medium

1693
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 5: about her own abuse and stuff. But then she brought

1694
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 5: up like, where are all the white feminists that consistently

1695
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 5: rallies support for like these hashtags and all this stuff,

1696
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 5: and they the whole R Kelly thing was trending on Twitter.

1697
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: It was two million views or two million.

1698
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 5: People watched it, so it had to some of the

1699
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 5: highest ratings ever for Lifetime. And yet not white people

1700
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 5: that are feminists and that claim to.

1701
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 4: Be about times up and.

1702
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 5: Me too were silent on this because they literally don't

1703
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's because they like R Kelly.

1704
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 5: They just don't care, right, They don't care about black girls.

1705
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 5: They don't care about black people in that way. It's

1706
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 5: not natural to them, So to them, this is a

1707
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 5: black person problem for black people to solve, and some

1708
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 5: of it is also I know that they probably don't

1709
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 5: feel comfortable because they're white, and they do worry about

1710
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 5: that you're coming down on a black man shit because

1711
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 5: they don't know that, they don't know how to really

1712
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 5: truly navigate the racial aspects of this. But that's when

1713
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 5: you can like boost signal boosts these black women talking

1714
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 5: about it. You could go find these these prominent black

1715
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: feminists and shit that do that are in celebrities that

1716
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 5: are leaving comments and be like share this article on

1717
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 5: this you know, so yeah, I definitely, I definitely.

1718
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1719
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: It's a bigger problem than just black men, black women,

1720
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 5: black people even it's a big ass societal problem. Carras says,

1721
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 5: Kevin Hark keeps addressing the controversy because he keeps getting

1722
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 5: asked about it on the heels his new movie release.

1723
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 4: He's using the same talking point message because that's what you.

1724
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: Do in PR. Yeah, I feel your cares.

1725
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 5: But then in that case, it's stupid for him to

1726
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 5: keep talking about this over I'm over it. And then

1727
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 5: let's be honest, Carris, because I'm gonna trust that you

1728
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 5: are on the up and up.

1729
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 4: Does he sound like he's over it?

1730
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: No?

1731
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 5: Does he sound like this is just PR. This is

1732
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 5: what his agent told him to say. It doesn't sound

1733
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 5: that way to me. And maybe I'm wrong, and this

1734
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 5: is just how he doesn't. He's not being funny in

1735
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 5: these interviews.

1736
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 4: He's not affable. He seems defensive, he seems angry.

1737
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 5: And that's how That's how I feel about it. So,

1738
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 5: and maybe I'm wrong and I'm reading into it, but

1739
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 5: this doesn't feel like, Oh, this is just pr And.

1740
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: The reason how I know because I've been there before.

1741
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've all been there before. We've all had things

1742
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 5: we weren't over we was talking about.

1743
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm over it. He don't seem over it, he I mean.

1744
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 4: And the fact that it's in the middle, middle middle

1745
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 4: of him promoting this movie.

1746
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 5: That may be unfortunate, but they're not even really getting

1747
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 5: to talk to him about the movie. No, this is

1748
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 5: bigger than the movie. Now, yes, anyway, uh, Kevin hart

1749
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 5: Wright saying, I am done talking about this.

1750
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 4: Damn I'm over it.

1751
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 5: Felix said, seeing as I'm around half Rod's age and

1752
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 5: African living in the UK, the docuseries was really needed

1753
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 5: for me. It was more thorough than the BBC one,

1754
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 5: which I also saw. I remember being introduced to the

1755
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 5: whole situation via the Boondocks episode and being confused as

1756
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 5: to how he wasn't in jail. But no, but not

1757
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 5: looking more into it because I assume he be locked

1758
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 5: up eventually. Even with American music being all over African

1759
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 5: TV and UK TV when I was younger, I don't

1760
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 5: think I ever really saw the situation come up anywhere

1761
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 5: else from what I remember. Yep, my parents didn't't even

1762
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 5: really listen to R. Kelly because they had very specific

1763
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 5: tastes in American music and they didn't like him, so

1764
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 5: he never came up besides them turning the radio station

1765
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 5: when his music came on. Everything I saw in the

1766
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 5: recent docuseries just really put it into perspective for me

1767
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 5: in a way I wasn't able to grasp as a teenager.

1768
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 5: Maybe it's because I'm more removed from the situation, which

1769
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 5: with me not knowing a lot about the old news stories,

1770
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 5: also because I'm still a bit naive, but I can't

1771
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 5: imagine a person being this fiendish well also man, and

1772
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 5: I don't think enough of this said, but a lot

1773
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 5: of us weren't old enough to really understand and how

1774
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 5: fucked up that was. Like the black girls who looked

1775
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 5: up to Aaliyah, I can see that being the same

1776
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 5: age and the same sort of like I think I

1777
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 5: already said it on the show, but just I can

1778
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 5: see there being a logic to them of like I

1779
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 5: want to be grown.

1780
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: I want to feel grown.

1781
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 5: I want to feel sexual all, even if it's not

1782
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 5: next to necessarily sexually active. I want someone like r

1783
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 5: Kelly to be looking at me. I want that to

1784
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 5: happen in my life.

1785
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: The thing is the.

1786
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 5: Responsible person, the adult in these situations is supposed to

1787
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 5: go that is still a child, and a child doesn't

1788
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 5: know what the fuck they really want, and a child

1789
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 5: doesn't know what the fuck they talking about, and they

1790
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 5: make mistakes and their brain's.

1791
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 1: Not fully developed.

1792
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 5: And me, as the adult, I'm gonna say, child, thank

1793
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 5: you for enjoying my music, and now I'm gonna go

1794
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 5: and do adult things with adult people. Right, That's it,

1795
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 5: you know, Like the Beatles have fucking girls running after

1796
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 5: them and shit boy bands have little girls running out

1797
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 5: after them. It's just a thing that happens. A monster

1798
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 5: exploits that thing. They exploit those people, they exploit those situations.

1799
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: So you know, so to a certain extent, us being teens, teens.

1800
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 5: And kids at the time, we weren't supposed to understand it,

1801
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 5: and we didn't attitudes to understand it. Even if our

1802
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 5: parents would have told us, many of us would have

1803
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 5: been like, Oh, they just fucking hate They don't know what.

1804
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: They're talking to people talking right, We would have we

1805
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: would have did it.

1806
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 5: This is so societal and it's so old, like Marvin

1807
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 5: Gaye and all these old singers and shit did it too.

1808
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 5: So he goes on to say, uh uh uh. Maybe

1809
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: it's because I'm removed from the situation, not knowing about

1810
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 5: how a lot of the old news stories are. Also

1811
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 5: because I'm still a bit naive. But I can't imagine

1812
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 5: a person being this fenish. I just can't grasp how

1813
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 5: sick someone has to be to do the things R.

1814
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: Kelly does.

1815
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 5: Even if he was abused as a kid, how does

1816
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 5: that translate to you perpetuating that evil on others? Once

1817
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 5: you become an adult, you have a response ability to

1818
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 5: work on that shit yourself. But it is scientifically like

1819
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 5: study that it is a pattern and it has to

1820
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 5: be broken, and that a lot of times people that

1821
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 5: abuse others have been abused themselves. But it's still not

1822
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 5: an excuse. It's just a thing that happened, and it's

1823
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 5: an inconvenient thing because people see abused then you have empathy,

1824
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 5: and then it becomes like you worry about defending him

1825
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 5: or mitigating the harm that he's done, or trying to compromise.

1826
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 4: No, we don't have to compromise.

1827
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 5: He had something bad happened to him, it doesn't mean

1828
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 5: you didn't get to do it to other people.

1829
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: Period.

1830
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 5: It breaks my heart seeing how he was able to

1831
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 5: get away with ruining so many lives, with people enabling

1832
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 5: him and no one ever being locked up. Between the

1833
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 5: docu series and all my Fade Black podcast covering and

1834
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 5: giving more context, I'm glad I'm more informed on the

1835
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 5: situation now, even with the knowing breakfast club dude in

1836
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 5: the dock, the message that got to me. I hope

1837
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 5: they get him and not much else I can really say. Yeah,

1838
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 5: And that's also the choice we have to make on

1839
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 5: these podcasts and shit that you listen to. Am I

1840
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 5: going to talk about this and maybe there's someone that

1841
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 5: didn't know. Maybe there's some context I can add and

1842
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 5: we can still elevate this message of like he needs

1843
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 5: to get the fuck out of here, or I can

1844
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 5: be like, well, we just want to have a good time.

1845
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 5: We don't want to talk about this, we don't want to, like,

1846
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 5: you should have watched it if you wanted to watch

1847
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 5: see what they had to say. But we're not gonna says,

1848
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 5: it's a choice.

1849
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 4: We have to make.

1850
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 5: We make so many choices, we make these shows, and

1851
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 5: not everyone's gonna agree.

1852
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: Correct.

1853
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 5: Uh even he says, besides being a molester, Kevin Space's

1854
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 5: biggest problem is being in entitled white man. He probably

1855
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 5: can't believe he's facing consequences for his actions.

1856
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,560
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good point.

1857
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 5: Which is why he put out this strange video. Yeah,

1858
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 5: just tax new character.

1859
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: Who are his people? Maybe he thinks people will forgive you?

1860
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: He let everybody go on Christmas vacation.

1861
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 4: Maybe he thinks people will forgive him?

1862
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

1863
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 4: He Yeah, just let us go.

1864
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean we we walked at the bidderness moved ten minutes,

1865
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: and we're looking.

1866
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck is this?

1867
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: Right? I got a I just got a Google alert

1868
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: for our job.

1869
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 4: Our boss.

1870
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 5: Maybe thinks people will forgive him after seeing them. I'm

1871
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: sure some people will, but he just needs to go away.

1872
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 5: Who are the people that will forgive him? At to

1873
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 5: seeing his video? That's what I want to know, Like,

1874
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 5: who are the people that were like, well, now, I have.

1875
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: To let this go. Welcome to the cookout.

1876
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 5: Will R Kelly ever go to jail? Yes, they will

1877
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 5: get him eventually. No, he'll never face justice, Karen, I

1878
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 5: don't know.

1879
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm hoping he will go to jail, but I could

1880
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: see him never facing justice.

1881
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well let's see what the comments and

1882
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 5: the poll was. Uh, sixty nine percent say yes, they

1883
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 5: will get him eventually. Thirty one percent says no, he'll

1884
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 5: never face justice.

1885
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: I won't lie.

1886
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 5: I'm into sixty nine percent, and maybe I'm just being hopeful,

1887
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 5: but I really hope or think there's more people that

1888
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 5: are gonna come for and he violated someone, and maybe

1889
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,440
Speaker 5: they'll be able to prove it.

1890
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: They're looking for everything right now.

1891
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe somebody violates the NBA and just takes the

1892
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 5: consequences and gets him the fuck out of here.

1893
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 4: Mel says, I voted no because I think R.

1894
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 5: Kelly will escape the country before they're able to find

1895
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 5: something to charge him with. I feel another Jim Jones

1896
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 5: incident coming out of the situation. The only way they

1897
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 5: could quickly convict him of something is if there was

1898
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 5: a small child born to this coat and the child

1899
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 5: had a medical threat like the child children in Waco, Texas,

1900
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 5: but even that coat ended up with people dying. I

1901
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: have a question, does anyone remember the pot Piper film

1902
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 5: being shown in school?

1903
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 4: I do, and it was Spooky's hell back there.

1904
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 5: I knew what R Kelly gave himself that name and

1905
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 5: put those flutes on Step in the Name of Love,

1906
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 5: that he had.

1907
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Gone all the way mad.

1908
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1909
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 5: I literally don't even remember flutes being in Step the

1910
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 5: Name of Love because I didn't.

1911
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: I don't even remember.

1912
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 5: I think the only time I've heard Damn, I don't

1913
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 5: even know if I have ever listened to the whole

1914
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 5: song of Step in the Name of Love, like maybe

1915
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 5: if it was on a commercial or added something.

1916
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he's so big, but I think I was

1917
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 4: off of him by then.

1918
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: It's I was.

1919
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 5: And also like there was this period of time where

1920
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 5: it just felt like he was doing music for adults

1921
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 5: to be like I'm one of you, you know, where

1922
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 5: he was doing like these old school songs and it

1923
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 5: was like these Auntie and Uncle jams, and it was

1924
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 5: just so blatantly transparent.

1925
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 7: Man.

1926
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 4: I just I don't know. I haven't seen it for.

1927
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Him for a while.

1928
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 5: I've been done with R kelly sister trial because he

1929
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 5: wasn't innocent. He got off on technicality because of lost time.

1930
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 5: I try to I tried for a while to separate

1931
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 5: the art from the artist, but hearing his voice became

1932
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 5: sicken in over time. Yeah, I tried too, to be honest,

1933
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 5: Like I said, I think the R album was the

1934
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 5: last album I listened to, and I tried to be like, well.

1935
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, this new stuff

1936
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: is not really about that.

1937
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 4: But I couldn't. I couldn't. He's just you can't unsee

1938
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 4: certain shit.

1939
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 5: I would hope the women in the coat would be

1940
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 5: freed and he would be convicted because I'm afraid of

1941
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 5: what might happen to him if he runs out of

1942
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 5: money or Lee's country. Yes, the other thing people got

1943
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 5: to be prepared for is even if he goes to prison,

1944
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 5: those women may support him.

1945
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Correct.

1946
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 4: So they're like, those are women now, quote unquote, and

1947
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: they've been conditioned for so long.

1948
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 5: I don't see them just breaking conditioning because we decided

1949
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 5: that we threw with this nigga, A mon says. I

1950
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 5: truly hope they get him eventually. I also went on

1951
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 5: YouTube and watched the BBC segment about r Kelly, and

1952
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 5: it actually links up with.

1953
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 4: The Lifetime show.

1954
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 5: The parents are working really hard to get their daughters back,

1955
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 5: and you can feel the anguish and guilt.

1956
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 4: I can admit that after the.

1957
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 5: Article came out last year, I was upset with them,

1958
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 5: but I always felt bad for them. The documentary helped

1959
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 5: me understand the timeline of when and how things happen.

1960
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 5: He has some crafty people surrounding and supporting him, so

1961
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 5: it's going to take a lot of work to bring

1962
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 5: him down, but I think it will happen.

1963
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1964
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: That's the other part of it too that people don't.

1965
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 5: Like talk when we talk about it, is that the

1966
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 5: people around out him have made it so that he

1967
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:02,839
Speaker 5: can be protected.

1968
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes they have.

1969
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 5: You know he specifically has. It's an organization you're dealing with.

1970
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 5: You're not dealing with one man.

1971
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: There's a low way he could do all the things

1972
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: that he does without some kind of help.

1973
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 5: And it will take an organization for parents to keep

1974
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 5: their kids away from, maybe.

1975
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 4: A law enforcement organization.

1976
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,919
Speaker 5: Holy Episode eighteen twenty one, Alexa What's half of Infinity?

1977
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 5: Michelle b says, I'm not sure if this is the

1978
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 5: right place to leave feedback, but I had to speak

1979
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 5: on the Kevin Hart issue. I do not understand why

1980
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 5: people are so thirsty for Kevin Hart to apologize the

1981
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 5: way you want. Let it go and stop supporting him,

1982
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 5: if that's simple. He has a bad attitude, He obviously

1983
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 5: harbors ill feelings. Why waste your time and energy on

1984
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 5: someone who ain't checking for you. Why would you want

1985
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 5: someone like him to rep you who obviously doesn't think

1986
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 5: you are worth the kind of apology you want?

1987
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't care.

1988
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 5: How many times do you need to hear someone say

1989
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 5: they don't care about you before you leave them alone?

1990
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 5: Stop boro tickets to his movies, comedy shows, etc. Don't

1991
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 5: tweet his name or bring them up in public.

1992
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Let him.

1993
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 5: Let his name down your lips today. Let that man

1994
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 5: goes twenty nineteen. I don't have time wasting energies on

1995
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 5: someone's foolishness. I hear you, that's one way that a

1996
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 5: lot of people like to go with these kinds of things.

1997
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna push you back a little bit and

1998
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 5: say if you want to wake up every day and

1999
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 5: say fuck Kevin Hart, that's your right too. You know,

2000
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 5: like it make like I don't think that the people

2001
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 5: now are saying like, I think Ellen and him successfully

2002
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 5: moved the goalpost, and even your response to it is

2003
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 5: kind of like the way he moved it, which is

2004
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 5: saying like, why y'all want him to come back?

2005
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 4: I don't think everybody want him to come back or

2006
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 4: be an ally.

2007
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 5: I think there's some very specific rich people that are

2008
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 5: also celebrities that I say in that, But a lot

2009
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 5: of people really have been done with him for a while,

2010
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 5: and then this thing right here, his response was just

2011
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 5: very bad pr and they'll stop talking about it eventually.

2012
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 5: When he stops talking about it, they will too, and

2013
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 5: they won't be going to see his movies and they

2014
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 5: won't be supporting them that way.

2015
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know that, uh, you know, but but

2016
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: yeah they have.

2017
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 5: They're well within the rights to be like, fuck this nigga,

2018
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 5: and every time he does an interview, be like, yeah,

2019
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 5: he's still not apologized, to fuck him and it'll be

2020
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 5: over soon. Give it a week, you know, and it'll

2021
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 5: be over. But yeah, Don Lemmon wanted him to be

2022
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 5: an ally. Ellen wanted him to be an ally.

2023
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Shit like that. That's from rich people, shit, right, And

2024
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: everybody don't want them to be allies, like, yeah, that's

2025
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the reality of it that you have to understand that people.

2026
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: Some people go, well, I want to help, I support,

2027
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be your ally because once

2028
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: you get into the allyship thing, that comes certain expectations

2029
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: that a lot of people go, well, No, once I

2030
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: become an ally, you're going to put certain expectations on

2031
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: me that I may or may not agree with.

2032
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 5: Also, we've done a really like not we, but the

2033
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 5: internet to social media has really and pr people have

2034
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 5: really done this very fucked up thing to allyship, which

2035
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 5: is when someone fucks up, the answer to it is

2036
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 5: to become an ally or to be a better ally.

2037
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's not the answer.

2038
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 5: The answer should be like stay the fuck away, go away,

2039
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 5: or like you said, we're not fucking with you anymore.

2040
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 4: But he ain't gonna get canceled or nothing like that.

2041
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 5: So, like I said, I can see why you know

2042
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 5: his name's gonna be around. He's one of the biggest

2043
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 5: stars on the planet. But yeah, they don't have to

2044
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 5: promote him if they don't want to.

2045
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Right, And the thing about allineship and being an ally,

2046
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: different people have a different definition of what an ally

2047
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: and an allyship means individually for them, and it varies

2048
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: per person, per person, per organization, per organization. It's kind

2049
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 1: of all over the place. There's no pamphlet that you

2050
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: get to go with. These are the standard things that

2051
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: you have to do to be allied, to be an ally,

2052
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: and so that boils down to how I was saying before.

2053
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: It varies per person. So that's why some people are like, hey,

2054
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: I give you money, I'll show up. But as far

2055
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: as being an ally, I.

2056
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, I'm a pause, so we can go to

2057
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 5: the next session. Now, all right, and we're back. Let's

2058
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 5: get into some more of this feedback because you're about

2059
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 5: Michelle was gonna make a point that I really wanted

2060
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 5: that I think kind of sums it up for me.

2061
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 5: Karen compared racism and homophobia and the rose Ane bar mess.

2062
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 5: I'm a black woman, a proud when my ass was

2063
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 5: not sitting here begging for Roseanne to respect black people.

2064
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 5: I said, thanks for revealing yourself to me, and I'm

2065
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 5: moving on to the next You don't have to worry

2066
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 5: about my support. I believe in forgiveness, but if you

2067
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 5: show yourself to be a dick in the present that

2068
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna deal with you anyway. Love you guys.

2069
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 5: You're my favorite podcast couple. I wish you about the

2070
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 5: best and much cessim in the year. I feel you, Michelle.

2071
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 5: But imagine this, when Roseanne was out here and said

2072
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 5: that racist shit, Monique was telling us about how.

2073
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 4: We need to forgive her and move on. It's just jokes.

2074
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 5: She how much she did for her personally, right, remember that, Well,

2075
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 5: Monique know Ellen. So it didn't change the narrative for

2076
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 5: black people to where it became one about like you

2077
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 5: gotta forgive her.

2078
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:56,480
Speaker 4: She moving on. Ellen is so big in mainstream it changed.

2079
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 5: The narrative, which is why you have people that are

2080
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 5: actively still talking about this dude, because she tried to

2081
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 5: basically accept an apology on behalf of LGBT people in

2082
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 5: the world, like, oh no, he can't, he's not homophobic.

2083
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 5: Ellen loves him and I love him and I ain't

2084
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 5: know him, and he's not And so it kept the

2085
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 5: thing going. If Monique would be if it would have

2086
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 5: been Oprah instead of Monique, it would have kept the

2087
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,839
Speaker 5: shit going with rose d Yes, that's essentially what happened.

2088
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm saying it's a little you know.

2089
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 5: To me, it's like a little we have to allow

2090
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 5: a little bit of space between like him saying the

2091
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 5: shit and then people no longer fucking with him or

2092
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 5: talking about him. It may come to pass that people

2093
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 5: literally don't fuck with talk fuck with him, or talk

2094
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 5: about him or support his movies. I expect this movie

2095
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 5: to flop, to be honest, but but but we have

2096
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 5: to allow some time to pass. It's not gonna happen.

2097
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 5: It's like the chance to rap her. Think it's not

2098
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 5: gonna happen overnight. It's gonna be a while before people

2099
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 5: come back to this and go, Okay, this is how

2100
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 5: I feel now. Kate Bailey DC says thanks caring for

2101
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 5: your comments about what to do with the service dog

2102
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 5: comes up to you. I try to stay knowledgeable about

2103
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 5: disability support, but I really had never heard that before

2104
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 5: that a service dog approaching another person might mean that

2105
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 5: the service doll's partner needs assistant. I hope I never

2106
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 5: need to put that knowledge to use. But I really

2107
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 5: appreciate you educating me on that, Oh.

2108
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: You welcome in the same thing, because once I learned that,

2109
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: I was like, oh word. I did not know that

2110
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: because I'd have been looking at that dog, like what

2111
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: you want. I don't know why you're staring at me.

2112
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 5: Far says as y'all stated. Kevin will ultimately be fine.

2113
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 5: I do think it will affect his plans a bit,

2114
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 5: and that's why he's so mad. Kevin is pretty openly ambitious,

2115
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 5: and he's been steadily and successfully trying to move up

2116
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,839
Speaker 5: in Hollywood, and this controversy and his response has affected that. Obviously,

2117
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 5: his core won't care about any of this shit, but

2118
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 5: it will affect his ability to grow beyond that group.

2119
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 5: The hilarious part is that this film is not getting

2120
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 5: great reviews anyway. It was one of Harvey Weinstein's last

2121
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 5: movies before his shit blew up Damn, although they poured

2122
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 5: his name off as executive producer. So this movie was

2123
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 5: kind of doomed to begin with. Kevin just helped it alone.

2124
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Really dark.

2125
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 5: Knight says, say what you will, but Kevin has been

2126
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 5: pretty successful in turning this whole episode and to him

2127
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 5: being the victim.

2128
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 4: I felt really.

2129
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 5: Sorry for Michael Strahan trying to live at those softballs

2130
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 5: and Kevin wouldn't even hit one and then move on

2131
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 5: one answer, knock it out. The part move on seemed

2132
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 5: to be easy enough, but Kevin still mad. So nope,

2133
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 5: it's so crazy right that interview, that segment ended up

2134
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 5: being ten minutes of him being like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

2135
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 5: don't want no help. I had an exchange on Twitter

2136
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 5: this week. I said if anybody could get a message

2137
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 5: to to Mackenzie Bezos that I said, hey boo, somebody

2138
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 5: actually had the nerve to try to say to me

2139
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 5: that she wasn't that hot hot, Like I give a

2140
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 5: fuck about hot. I'm trying to get my family a

2141
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 5: serious glow up. Even told the wife about it, and

2142
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,839
Speaker 5: she understood. It took all of my strength not to respond.

2143
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 5: And that's why I use a broke.

2144
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 4: Bitch, peace.

2145
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: Free even he said.

2146
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 5: So, Jeff Bezos is about to be single. Even though

2147
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 5: his wife would take half of one hundred and forty billions,

2148
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 5: he still has seventy billion dollars.

2149
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 4: So my question is does he likes sisters asking for

2150
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 4: a friend? Good luck Eve?

2151
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 5: I think he already got a woman that he hollering at.

2152
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 5: That's why it ended and the text messages became public.

2153
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 5: So I assume his wife found the messages because house

2154
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 5: when we know about it and he was talking about

2155
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 5: he wants to breathe her in and shit, so I

2156
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 5: know he is eating the hell out of that pussy.

2157
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 4: Should that meteorologist? Should that meteorologists have got they got

2158
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 4: a three way? Should that meteorologists have been fired? Yes?

2159
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 5: No, Maybe he should have been suspended but not fired.

2160
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 5: The Martin Luther Coon Junior, God, what do you think, Hareen?

2161
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 5: Was it on purpose? We heard the clip? You heard

2162
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 5: the clip the same way I heard the clip, So

2163
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. Should he have been fired?

2164
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 4: Yes?

2165
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: No, maybe suspended but not fired? Suspend all right?

2166
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 5: Fifty five percent of the audience says suspended but not fired.

2167
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 5: Thirty seven per cent says yes he should be fired,

2168
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 5: at eight percent saying no, I think I'm on I'm

2169
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 5: either on team no or suspended but not fired, something

2170
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 5: like that. Amani says, I was waiting for my man

2171
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 5: to say he was listening to Kendred before the show

2172
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 5: and had King Kunta on the brain and.

2173
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Just slipped it.

2174
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 5: Lakita says, on the meteorologist slip it fell I it

2175
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 5: would definitely be something I want to discuss with him.

2176
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 5: I do wonder if there had been previous indication to

2177
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,879
Speaker 5: him feeling like this off the air and a culmination

2178
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 5: of things getting him fired. Oh well, yeah, I don't

2179
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 5: feel bad for him necessarily, but I do. I don't

2180
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 5: know that this was conclusive evidence, but like I also

2181
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 5: wouldn't be shocked if we went to this Facebook page

2182
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 5: and he was liking memes about Obama being a monkey.

2183
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 5: Come on, Oh, Kevin harsh smear and the shit. Rather

2184
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 5: than wiping it up he should, he seemed to be

2185
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 5: over indignant about not just making sure that all of

2186
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 5: his fans feelings have been addressed in his apology. What's

2187
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 5: the harm in saying you're sorry when you heard someone

2188
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 5: with the awful things you said looking at you.

2189
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 4: Luis c K. Yeah, that's interesting because I saw Shock

2190
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 4: defending him.

2191
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 5: So it's like there's a lot of people that really

2192
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 5: want to defend Kevin Hart because they his friend. I'd

2193
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 5: understand if he's shown an inkland or understanding why I

2194
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 5: was wrong and why he needs to apologize. You can't

2195
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 5: just go around screaming I'm a good person. I'm done

2196
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 5: apologizing either, sorry, you're not, and to make yourself the

2197
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 5: victim that was low. I understand that the original ten

2198
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 5: of the tweet resurference was nefarious, but why not apologize.

2199
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 5: It's beginning to feel like he can't say he's sorry

2200
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 5: because he isn't sorry. Now, see, that is where I'm at.

2201
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 5: That's where I'm at. I'm like, I don't. It went

2202
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 5: from me being like he just thought this shit was

2203
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 5: funny at one point to being like, oh, he's homophobic,

2204
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 5: and it's in the way that a lot of.

2205
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers are homophobic, Like it ain't that call you.

2206
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 5: A slur, it's that other ship where it's just like

2207
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want no one in my family to w one,

2208
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 5: and specifically men like I guarantee, Like, there's a lot

2209
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 5: of homophobia.

2210
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 4: That is, I'm cool with lesbians. She's just like me.

2211
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 4: She tried to get some pussy. I understand that.

2212
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Because I don't consider that being gaged.

2213
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 5: Right, there's a lot of like consideration and understanding intolerance, uh,

2214
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 5: because they're not attacking masculinity with.

2215
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 4: That shit, right, there's a lot of that shit.

2216
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, oh yeah, that's where I'm I'm at. Why

2217
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 5: I'm like, hmmm, maybe maybe it's not just a slip up,

2218
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 5: because you could have been fixed this if you was

2219
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 5: really sorry. I don't think it is. I don't think

2220
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 5: he is sorry, and I think he is homophobic. There

2221
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 5: I said it. And I don't know why Ellen was

2222
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 5: so ready to jump in front of bullets. Wow, because

2223
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 5: Ellen a comedian.

2224
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: And they do the same form of comedy.

2225
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.

2226
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 5: And then also one of the things these comedians have

2227
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 5: in comedy, it's almost like police where they believe comedian first,

2228
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 5: and race and creed and sexual orientation and all that

2229
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 5: shit second. And it's like, I'm defending the idea of

2230
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 5: his freedom to make these jokes and shit like that.

2231
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's some real shit.

2232
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 5: That's why you often see that's why it's hard to

2233
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 5: ever even have a conversation about comedy and when it's

2234
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 5: too far not good or whatever, because comedians turning to

2235
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 5: the police and be like, no, we have to defend

2236
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 5: Louis c k right now.

2237
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 4: We can't just not.

2238
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Say nothing, let him sink his own ship.

2239
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 5: Like, couldn't you just not say anything if I mean,

2240
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 5: if you really feel like this isn't really no, I

2241
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 5: have to defend the right of this. And it's like, Okay,

2242
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 5: y'all are all actually kind of predictable and in it together,

2243
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 5: and it's one. And that's why you can't really fuck

2244
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 5: with comedian because they'll be like, uh, this isn't this

2245
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 5: person isn't funny, this thing they did isn't funny.

2246
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 4: This is hack.

2247
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 5: But let you, as a common audience member, or let

2248
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 5: the internet go, yeah, this is hacking.

2249
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 4: It's not funny and it's kind of fucked up.

2250
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 5: Then they go, we hold up, you don't get to

2251
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 5: serve like all you do is be jealous and fucking

2252
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 5: mad that somebody else got a special. But yet the

2253
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 5: general audience can't say this, this motherfucker ain't funny.

2254
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Fuck you yeah, because that pain they determine what's funny

2255
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: here was not bullshit?

2256
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 5: Man, I hate that shit. All right, we did get

2257
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 5: some voicemails. Let's see if we can go through them

2258
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 5: and see who actually left voicemails and whose Skype allowed

2259
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 5: to do that. Let's see, so we had Okay, I'm

2260
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 5: trying to see the date on these Thursday, December twenty

2261
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 5: that's okay, Monday, the twenty four Tuesday. Okay, So somebody

2262
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 5: watch my twos and see if I play it, and

2263
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 5: of course it'll.

2264
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: Take its time.

2265
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:10,839
Speaker 2: Hey, Rod and Karen, Thester Boys aful talk about episode

2266
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 2: eighteen eighteen where Rob was complaining about customer service people

2267
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 2: being soft. The company I used to work for.

2268
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 9: Is the one that kind is kind of famous.

2269
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 2: For pioneering that style of super agreeable customer service top

2270
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: of dot com. All the data science is there. But

2271
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: no matter who you are in the company, when you start,

2272
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 2: you got to work in the customer service call center

2273
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: for a month and it was so crazy because they

2274
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,799
Speaker 2: you will get fired if you do not do whatever

2275
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: it takes to make the customer happy. Like people legit

2276
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 2: got fired because they didn't start having conversations with the

2277
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 2: customers on the call. But you had to start, like

2278
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 2: you hadn't how to start a rapport or whether with them,

2279
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 2: and you will get fired for that if you don't

2280
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 2: do it in your first thirty days. They do pay

2281
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 2: you if you do get fired, so you get like

2282
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: a month's salary if they fire you during the time,

2283
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: So you know it's cool. But yeah, so no matter

2284
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: who you are, even down like if you're a freaking executive,

2285
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 2: you still got to work in a call center and

2286
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: you had to do it every Christmas for ten hours.

2287
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 2: But the cool thing was that because you can do

2288
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to make the customer happy. You don't

2289
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: get stressed out working in a call center. So you know,

2290
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 2: I've had I had a one person really try to

2291
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 2: take advantage of me, and it made me upset. But

2292
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 2: you know it ain't my money set. If you want

2293
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: to try to get over on me, go right ahead.

2294
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 2: So that's what that's what I would do when I

2295
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: would work in the call for to do whatever it

2296
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 2: takes to make the people happy. And people be like, oh,

2297
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 2: you know my order late, Let me get a gift card.

2298
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, no problem, and.

2299
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 3: Make them happy, but run our time a peace peace man.

2300
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 4: And I blame people in general for this shit. I

2301
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 4: don't really blame the companies.

2302
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 5: I hate that that's what happens, and that you know,

2303
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 5: you end up having to deal with these unruly customers

2304
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 5: that have been empowered by the companies you work for.

2305
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,959
Speaker 4: But I blame people. People are so fucking entitled.

2306
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: And my thing is that for call sender's another half

2307
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 1: quotas how much time you be on the phone, Like

2308
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: they monitor a lot of that stuff. So I guarantee

2309
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: you your phone is sorry, no problem. The length of

2310
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: time you're on the phone is longer, but yeah, I

2311
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 1: can understand. If my job is customer service, my job

2312
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 1: is to get onto the next customer. My job is

2313
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: in the city here and talk about your kids, and

2314
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: talk about your children. Y'all was on the phone fucking

2315
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes, because that's how long motherfuckers will have

2316
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: you on the phone if you allowed on the drop

2317
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: that loan when you're like, okay, I know the cold

2318
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 1: time had to be terrible.

2319
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: Yep, we got another call. It looks like Monday. They

2320
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 4: left a message, so let me see if.

2321
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 5: What order this is in. I think this is the

2322
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 5: first message, that it could be a second.

2323
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 9: So Rodney, Karen, this is anonymous.

2324
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 8: I actually have a response to all the hazing stuff

2325
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 8: that things that y'all just don't understand. I can't speak

2326
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 8: on the bar nine because I'm not as a VIE

2327
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 8: nine member, but I can't take a speak about the

2328
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 8: band world because it's actually pretty president in the band world.

2329
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,719
Speaker 8: At one point in time president in the band world. Well,

2330
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 8: when I was coming Oh by the way, it's probably

2331
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 8: gonna be long, so a big prepared.

2332
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 9: When I was coming up in the band world. And

2333
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 9: this is still and this is still like fifteen.

2334
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 8: Twenty years ago when I was coming in the band world,

2335
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 8: when you were going through the hazing incident, it was

2336
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 8: more like a right, a patch be accepted by all

2337
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 8: your peers, sometimes your band director, you know, a writer

2338
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 8: of pass It was supposed to be a form of discipline.

2339
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 10: You know.

2340
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 8: Of course people used to take it out and make it,

2341
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 8: take it out and make it more than what.

2342
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 9: It used to be, you know what it should be.

2343
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 8: To be honest with you, I can't necessarily say that

2344
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 8: it's him from a certain thing, like say, like I

2345
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 8: want to say, like a stereotype of watch, like a

2346
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 8: write of passage type thing.

2347
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: When it comes.

2348
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 9: To the newcomer come to the organization, he can't handle

2349
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,919
Speaker 9: these hells in order to be to be part of us,

2350
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,440
Speaker 9: because you know, it comes to hell through the organization.

2351
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 9: Me personally, as as much as I want to play faith,

2352
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 9: I can't really say.

2353
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 8: I cannot say that it hasn't affected me backt the

2354
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 8: same time when I was going through and even now

2355
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 8: as of today, I kind of feel mixed about it

2356
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 8: because a part of me is like, well, I didn't

2357
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 8: have to go through it, but I did it anyway,

2358
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 8: So fuck it. Another part of me, just like damn,

2359
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 8: I shouldn't have did it at all, but fuck it,

2360
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 8: I don't know how to explain. Is to be honest

2361
01:47:55,960 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 8: with you.

2362
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: I think I think they hazed him right now, he's

2363
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: sneaking into a room. All right, are you okay? All right?

2364
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 4: Second?

2365
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Get you? But people talking about band, Yes, I've heard

2366
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: it in the band and other Uh you were in

2367
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: the band in high school? Did they hate not not note? Yes,

2368
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 1: And I've heard of that a lot of and it's

2369
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 1: not even black schools like band, this band. I've heard

2370
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: of their forms of joining organizations and hazing to be

2371
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a part of the band.

2372
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, hazeing is a no no for me, just a

2373
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 4: no go.

2374
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 1: You ain't hating me for ship, don't again. I got

2375
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: it off. But basically, uh, are you saying this too?

2376
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: She under the covers?

2377
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 5: What's happening? So once again we still don't know anything

2378
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 5: about hazen. I got to stop this message because.

2379
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bab you you need to call back when

2380
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 1: you free.

2381
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, call back when you when they allow you to

2382
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 5: use your phone time. I guess it was a little

2383
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 5: too muffled that that last part. I tried to go

2384
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 5: through the first half. But that was that was real

2385
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 5: bad call back though, But yes, all right, I gotta

2386
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 5: wait for it to go to the next one. For

2387
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 5: some reason, won't let me go to the next message.

2388
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 5: What's happening?

2389
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay? I click here? Will it?

2390
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 4: No?

2391
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: Huh? God, damn it? Skype? Okay, what if I click

2392
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: on this person?

2393
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 4: Nothing? All right?

2394
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 5: Let me close it and opening again, and we'll see

2395
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 5: if Skype wants to cooperate.

2396
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I knows this guy went from the beginning. Do you do?

2397
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear everything to what's what's happening Skype? Out here?

2398
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 5: Like I got haze and I don't want nobody talking

2399
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 5: about it?

2400
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all are supposed to talking about this on the air.

2401
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: I said this sh it down.

2402
01:49:55,840 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 5: I will shut this motherfucker down. All right, So we

2403
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 5: got okay, I just did his his Okay, So now

2404
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 5: let's see if I can go to this person. All right,

2405
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 5: look like something's popping up. Okay, this is a start

2406
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 5: a known person.

2407
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 4: Okay. They did leave a voicemail, like they.

2408
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Left two of them. Okay, see if I could.

2409
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 4: Play the first one.

2410
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: This is that today? This must have been who.

2411
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 3: And caring?

2412
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 7: This is CT I'm calling for the Kevin Hart commentary.

2413
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 3: I was waiting you want to talk about it this week.

2414
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 3: But long story short.

2415
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,719
Speaker 7: I know that Ellen was doing a lot trying to

2416
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 7: make up for what.

2417
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart has said in the past and.

2418
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 7: Trying to get him to host the Oscars, and I

2419
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 7: get it, and it's kind of She's well within her

2420
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 7: right to do that.

2421
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 11: But my problem comes in with Kevin Hart and him

2422
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 11: wasting the opportunity.

2423
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: That he had.

2424
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 7: So I'm probably gonna call in, But long story short,

2425
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 7: I just feel like Kevin wasted his hour on The

2426
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 7: Ellen Show with all of the reasons and excuses of

2427
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 7: how he's already said sorry in the past, and how

2428
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 7: he was attacked and all of this other stuff.

2429
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 3: But all he had to do.

2430
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 7: Was stop Ellen and say, hey, there's a second, there's

2431
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 7: a flip side to the story. And I just want

2432
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 7: to say thank you Ellen for all of your support,

2433
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 7: thank you for giving me the time on this platform today.

2434
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. But just in case there.

2435
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 7: Is any miscommunication, if I have not been clear in

2436
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 7: the past.

2437
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 11: I apologize and I.

2438
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 3: Will do better in the future.

2439
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 7: I have taught my children better that will make sure

2440
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 7: that they know what right and wrong looks like, and

2441
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 7: I know that it was wrong. If he would have

2442
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 7: just said that, then it really would have everyone would

2443
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 7: have been keeping for Kevin Hart. But because he was

2444
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 7: too busy, like actually defending himself, I feel like he

2445
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 7: just wasted it. He wasted an entire hour just complaining

2446
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,759
Speaker 7: about how he doesn't want to bow down.

2447
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,839
Speaker 3: To whoever the man is or whoever the enemy is.

2448
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 4: All right, and then they left left one more message after.

2449
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 7: That, and I know that you all have said, like

2450
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 7: he apologized, but every everything in you all right, it

2451
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 7: was just like a half ass apology was well, you know,

2452
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 7: I'm sorry about that, but you know, joke is joking,

2453
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 7: it's not funny in the times, or it's not funny now.

2454
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 11: All he had to say is it people laughed at it,

2455
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 11: but I should making jokes about it. Then I will

2456
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 11: no longer make jokes about it. I apologize the LGBT community.

2457
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 11: You know, hopefully you'll be with me as I grow,

2458
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 11: and hopefully I can tell you rather than tell you.

2459
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 11: But he's too prisful, and I feel like he deserves

2460
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 11: and not never holds the oscars. If he's going to

2461
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 11: continue on this track of not.

2462
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 4: Just being.

2463
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 7: An extra, just being defensive more than apologetic.

2464
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that he had to apologize over

2465
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 3: and over.

2466
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that he has to get just one

2467
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 7: earnest and eyes apology without excuses, and he has not

2468
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 7: done that, and I just I just.

2469
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 3: Feel like he don't deserve anymore.

2470
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 7: But my point, I don't know what anyone else is

2471
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 7: gonna do, but I just I really wish that he

2472
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 7: would just do better and stop making up fucking excuses

2473
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 7: for his piss poor behavior and commentary and just be

2474
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 7: done with it instead of talking about how busy he

2475
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 7: is and how he's booked to.

2476
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 3: Capacity and all this other stuff.

2477
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 7: It's just it looks ridiculous now. So yeah, that's it. Yeah,

2478
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 7: good luck to Kevin Hart. But I don't think I'll

2479
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 7: be watching anymore his movies unless I've watched it for

2480
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 7: free of my TV at home, and even then I

2481
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 7: might just a bit altogether.

2482
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 3: So I'm cool har for a while. Thank you guys

2483
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 3: for talking about it, and I'll talk you Yep.

2484
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: I feel ct and agreed, and I don't think he's sorry. Yeah.

2485
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,560
Speaker 5: And the other thing is when I say that he apologized,

2486
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 5: he did apologize twice in tweets after saying that he

2487
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 5: was not gonna apologize, and uh, then he fucked it

2488
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 5: up by re unapologizing on TV and shit, yeah, so

2489
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 5: when he didn't accept that he had, it was always

2490
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 5: so weird because he said how he wasn't gonna apologize

2491
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 5: and these motherfuckers was crazy and they just hate us.

2492
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 5: And then he went and said, I'm not gonna do it,

2493
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 5: and I apologize sincerely to the LGBTQ community and da

2494
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 5: da da, and then he would go back on TV

2495
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 5: and be like, I'm not apologizing.

2496
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 4: I'm the victim. I was targeted.

2497
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 5: So I don't know, Uh, but I do understand what

2498
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 5: you're saying, that he should apologize and all that stuff.

2499
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 5: I just don't think he sincerely can because he's not

2500
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 5: sincerely sorry. Agreed, And of course Skype is acting stupid again.

2501
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 5: Let's see, Okay, what if I do this?

2502
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 1: God damn it. Stop trying to call people. Oh that's

2503
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: what it's called now.

2504
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's trying to call like I'm trying to click

2505
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 5: on the person's name so I can get to that

2506
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 5: vail and then it, yeah, it freezes and then it

2507
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 5: tries to go to that voice and okay, so this one.

2508
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so we had two messages. Wait, this is not

2509
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 4: from the right person.

2510
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: God damn it. We literally just.

2511
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 5: I think we just played these voicemails. But let me

2512
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 5: go back and see if so it says they called today.

2513
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 1: All right, so if.

2514
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 4: I play this whose messages this? This might be CET's message. Still, well,

2515
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 4: I'm crossing my fans like.

2516
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 3: It worked.

2517
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 12: This episode episode eighteen twenty has got me so heated,

2518
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 12: like I just spent tasing in my.

2519
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 13: Kitchen, just like, oh am I gonna stay, I call it,

2520
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say, I was like. But then I was like, okay, Now.

2521
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 12: Then I came to a realization.

2522
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 10: That because I left Facebook over the whole r Kelly thing,

2523
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 10: I was like I need a break because I was

2524
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 10: like this is getting too crazy and people were jail

2525
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 10: on my nerves and the glass Straw was like dude

2526
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 10: talking about oh, if it was my.

2527
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 13: Child, he'd be dead.

2528
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, they're alive.

2529
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Half.

2530
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 2: I was walking around some of.

2531
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 12: Y' off writing, and then I realized I was like, Okay,

2532
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 12: this is how you know if folks are like real

2533
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 12: about that gangster shit of like, oh, if it's my

2534
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 12: loved one.

2535
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 3: They'd be dead or hurt or whatever.

2536
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 13: They catch your hands because every time something's ever happened

2537
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 13: to me, and like the men or people who are

2538
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 13: supposed to be protecting me, if they asked me, oh,

2539
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 13: what do you want me to do, they're not real

2540
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 13: ones because they're not about that life.

2541
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 8: They don't want to go to jail.

2542
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 14: Here.

2543
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 13: But every time something's happened and my sister.

2544
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 12: Took care of it, she didn't asked me, she took

2545
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 12: care of it, and then I found out about it later,

2546
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 12: or my friends went and good took care of it

2547
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 12: and I found out about it later because that person's.

2548
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 13: Limp into school the next day, they're like, oh, what

2549
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 13: happened to them? Like I told you not to mess with.

2550
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 2: My friend, told you not to mess with my sister.

2551
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 13: That's how you know they're real.

2552
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 12: But oh, okay, I'm calming down.

2553
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 13: I'm good.

2554
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 12: I love y'all.

2555
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 14: Uh yep.

2556
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 13: Sometimes, Oh the worst possible thing to watch if.

2557
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 10: You're not gonna have sex for a week just after this,

2558
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 10: but all right, bye bye bye.

2559
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 5: And then she left one more message. I don't understand

2560
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 5: if not haveing sex for a week, what is that about?

2561
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Sorry I missed that reference.

2562
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 14: Hey, Ron and Karen is the mom again. I've calmed down,

2563
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 14: but I just wanted to just also say, uh, and

2564
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 14: just you know, give you guys their props for your

2565
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 14: U Spoiled movie reviews because we were listening to those

2566
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 14: when you guys were on your holiday break, and we're

2567
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 14: also listening to the MCR networks and so that was

2568
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 14: just like really entertaining for me just to hear the

2569
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 14: differences and how you guys review movies from each other,

2570
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 14: even though you guys were friends and everything. I just

2571
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 14: fonded like really interesting and funny and cool. You guys

2572
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 14: just do a really great job.

2573
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I love you guys.

2574
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 14: Just review of bird blocks and just the contrast of

2575
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 14: yours and an NPR networks and you know, there are

2576
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 14: things that I agreed with and didn't agree with on

2577
01:58:54,760 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 14: both sides. That yeah, I just wanted to give you guys,

2578
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 14: uh some love and props for that and thank you guys.

2579
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: That was really.

2580
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 12: Nice things that you guys do.

2581
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 14: That's do a really good job.

2582
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've.

2583
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 14: Calmed down from the R Kelly thing.

2584
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm good.

2585
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 14: I think I'm good now. I had to get it

2586
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 14: out because that has a lot of tense up anger.

2587
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know where to put it.

2588
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: But all right, love you guys, bye bye bye bye,

2589
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: thank you.

2590
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for listening to reviews. Uh the r

2591
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 4: Kelly stuff.

2592
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you.

2593
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 5: I often wonder that too, like how he's alive. But

2594
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 5: I think people talk a good game, but it's a

2595
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 5: lot harder to do that ship when it happens.

2596
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: Courlrect and theory.

2597
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 5: You would do all this shit, but technically you could

2598
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,839
Speaker 5: go do that ship now because I mean, he ain't

2599
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 5: harmed your kid, But why why let that be the

2600
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 5: thing to stop you from taking his life? If you've

2601
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 5: truly about that, you know why you waiting for it

2602
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 5: to happen to somebody close to you unless you're trying

2603
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 5: and say you really don't care unless he does it

2604
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 5: to somebody close to you, in which case, how does

2605
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 5: that make you a good person?

2606
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Right?

2607
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 5: You?

2608
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: Just like the parents that people complain about, it ain't

2609
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 1: me and mine, it can't happen to me, like like

2610
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 1: time in front of those same things, some of these

2611
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: parents that got got thought the same fucking thing.

2612
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 5: And then as far as the reviews, yeah, it's interesting

2613
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 5: doing reviews because I try my best to.

2614
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Not listen to other people's reviews of movies, and.

2615
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 5: I try my best not to interact with people about

2616
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 5: their movie opinions, especially online and stuff.

2617
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 4: I really want to have.

2618
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: My own opinion.

2619
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 4: That is formed by myself.

2620
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 5: It is just my process, so I don't often hear

2621
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 5: what anyone else thinks about a movie anyway. And the

2622
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 5: And it's also because the main things I want to

2623
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 5: remember when I do a movie review is that one,

2624
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 5: I'm so fortunate and happy to be able to just

2625
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 5: review movies. Yes, like as a person that gets paid

2626
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 5: as part of an organization that votes and all that.

2627
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 5: This is something I really, you know, wanted there to

2628
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 5: be more people.

2629
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Like me who reviewed movies that were you.

2630
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 5: Know, black, that were fans, that were not just gonna

2631
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 5: be pretentious and only give the same six indie movies

2632
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 5: credit every year. You know, most people's review shows turn

2633
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 5: into that, you know, very boring.

2634
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah people.

2635
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 5: When I do occasionally listen, even to my friends, I'm

2636
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 5: always like, damn, this this is no different than what

2637
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 5: white independent people have been doing with their reviews and

2638
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 5: what you know, It's like we're just imitating what they

2639
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:37,839
Speaker 5: did already.

2640
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. I'm not interested in

2641
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 4: that shit. So I do think that.

2642
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 5: And it's not to take credit away from the traditional

2643
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 5: type of movie. Some of those are very good, but

2644
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 5: in general, it's like I should be able to say

2645
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 5: Star Wars was good and I enjoyed it as much

2646
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 5: as I enjoyed Lola Land without it being like a

2647
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 5: fucking shock and a surprise. The other thing I'd like

2648
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 5: to remember when I do reviews is to typically make

2649
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 5: the score the tone of the review. And this is

2650
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 5: probably the hardest thing when you reviewing the movie. It's

2651
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:10,959
Speaker 5: probably the hardest thing for most people, and most people.

2652
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

2653
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 5: They'll they'll they'll shit on the movie for forty minutes

2654
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 5: and then go, oh, it's a three out of five.

2655
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 5: That's not a three out of five. If you shoot

2656
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 5: on something for forty minutes, that's that's bad. That's a zero,

2657
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 5: that's a one. That's this is a bad movie. And

2658
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:28,000
Speaker 5: then so I'm like, I want my reviews to feel

2659
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 5: like the score. So most of our reviews sound kind

2660
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 5: of in the middle or kind of nice, because we

2661
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 5: most movies at this point are not really shit fest.

2662
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 5: They're like three out of five, four out of five.

2663
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 5: You know, every once in a while, you really do

2664
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 5: watch a bad.

2665
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 1: Movie and you get it a two or one. Yeah,

2666
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 1: those are the ones.

2667
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I'm shitting on this movie. I

2668
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 5: really thought about it everywhere I could, and it was bad.

2669
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of times, most of the movies

2670
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: we watch, we actually want to see them, which is

2671
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: completely differ and being forced to see them.

2672
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even then, I like, even yeah, most of

2673
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 5: most people are watching what they want to watch anyway.

2674
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, anyway, I'm glad that you enjoy our reviews.

2675
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 5: I'm glad they sound different. That's the really most important

2676
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 5: thing is I just don't want to do retreads.

2677
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people's reviews.

2678
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 5: Sound the same, just a retrad of somebody else's review

2679
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 5: of the shit. It's like I could have fucking listened

2680
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 5: to this somewhere else. And like I said, the one

2681
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 5: of the reasons I don't really like to read other.

2682
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 4: People's reviews is because then I spend my review responding

2683
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:26,440
Speaker 4: to their review. That's crazy.

2684
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 5: You came from my opinion, not what I thought of

2685
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 5: their opinion. I don't give a fuck. So this nigga

2686
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 5: didn't like Star Wars. Now I gotta take him the task.

2687
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 5: I can't eiven a fuck about that, nigga. All right,

2688
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 5: let's get to the emails. Trace wind dude sent a

2689
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 5: gift being black then in the art of living with

2690
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 5: fearlessness and grace compass uh, Trey, says Leff of Mesice.

2691
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 5: Happy New Year and happy podcast anniversary, Rider Caroen. Hopefully

2692
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 5: this connects with you guys. If not, that's cool too.

2693
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 5: I love much love Trey. Thank you, Tray, thank you.

2694
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 5: I will give you that chance if I get a chance. Okay,

2695
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 5: appreciate the book. Miss Mimi, Memi right saying milk toast.

2696
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 4: I had to stop what I was doing because R.

2697
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 5: Kelly ruined the memories of my childhood teenager I was

2698
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 5: used to at the right end. First of all, fuck

2699
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 5: him forever. Second of all that he was let me

2700
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 5: strink this down a little bit so I can compact this, okay.

2701
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,600
Speaker 5: Second of all, that he was molested is a contributor.

2702
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 5: But his brother is not. And he was molested from

2703
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 5: what I heard, and he could have sought help. But

2704
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 5: those kids, because those kinds of predators rarely do. Because

2705
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 5: if they do, I don't know what can be done

2706
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 5: for them?

2707
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 4: And fourth of all, I think you skip third, fourth

2708
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 4: of all because third is refer back to first of all. Okay,

2709
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 4: fuck him forever, Okay, got it.

2710
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 5: I didn't watch the documentary because I vividly remember him

2711
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 5: going on an interview with Ale and saying that she

2712
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 5: was his best friend. He was twenty eight at the time,

2713
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 5: and I remember it like it was yesterday. I thought

2714
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 5: it was creepy then, but I'm not going to revise

2715
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 5: the story of society. We have grandparents and aunts and

2716
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 5: uncles that where the men started dating a girl at

2717
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 5: fifteen and he was up with was a thirty. We

2718
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,839
Speaker 5: also have a history of people like Jerry Lee and Elvis.

2719
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,480
Speaker 5: This didn't die out for a while, so I was

2720
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 5: like eighteen when everything came out, and I am an

2721
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 5: R and B person. I knew every word of R

2722
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 5: and B in the eighties and nineties and arts at

2723
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 5: twenty teens. But despite that, I was a fan of

2724
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 5: many of his songs. His remixes were legendary before Diddy,

2725
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Ignition remix and that shit was inoscapable. I

2726
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 5: remember people saying, why the fuck is the news talking

2727
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 5: about how this dude is canceled and then playing the

2728
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 5: song in the background, because that's what's making people go

2729
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:39,879
Speaker 5: stream it. I say that not to make excuses or justified.

2730
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 5: No no no no no no no no no no.

2731
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 5: I say that to say that in eighteen. At eighteen,

2732
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,400
Speaker 5: I knew that this was creepy and wrong, and that historically

2733
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 5: I also knew that it was accepted. I had a

2734
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 5: neighbor whose daughter got pregnant by her stepdad.

2735
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 1: She was called.

2736
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,640
Speaker 5: Fast and he went to jail, but when he got out,

2737
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 5: he was actually allowed to father his daughter, the victim's sister,

2738
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 5: and the child he had father with the victim twelve

2739
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 5: she was twelve. She was ruined and stigmatized though he

2740
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 5: went to jail. I knew a family where the matriarch

2741
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 5: knew her husband was touching the little girl children in

2742
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 5: the family. He was just never around them unsupervised, but

2743
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 5: otherwise never held accountable. I remember my initial outrage. I

2744
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 5: also remember looking around, like, ain't nobody else man? This

2745
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 5: was before Leah came back, but I back out under

2746
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 5: MISSI and Timberland, says pie Piper. This was also when

2747
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 5: I distinctly remember guys in the twenties cruise in the

2748
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 5: high school track meets for girls who comment would say

2749
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:35,760
Speaker 5: had myns that were weak with they butt strong. When

2750
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 5: another neighbor was buying a car from my athletic team

2751
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 5: member squad made who was three years younger than me.

2752
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:43,920
Speaker 5: He was eight years older than me at the time.

2753
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 5: It was seventeen. It was seventeen. Oh, I was seventeen eighteen.

2754
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 4: At the time. Sound familiar.

2755
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 5: So y'all been new and didn't need to watch the

2756
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 5: documentary for details. I listened to the Olympic Doctor podcast. Believed, man,

2757
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means is Believe man, we

2758
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 5: didn't care about girls. We don't protect children enough, but girls.

2759
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,920
Speaker 5: You were spot on in that black girls do not

2760
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 5: get to be children. You were spot on that whole.

2761
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 5: If it's grass on the field, then it's fair place.

2762
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:15,240
Speaker 1: Shit is ridiculous.

2763
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 5: This is an extrapolation of how women have no agency,

2764
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 5: is defined by the privilege. People still think these little

2765
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,879
Speaker 5: girls were fast. This is exactly the definition of people

2766
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 5: and men and women not holding me in accountable.

2767
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: Hell.

2768
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 5: Later it was Woody Allen, so people thought he would

2769
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 5: marry her and they would be like your grandparents, come

2770
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 5: on color purple seay anyone. I had no real point.

2771
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 1: I just so triggered.

2772
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 5: And I have been in the UK recently and dwts

2773
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:42,240
Speaker 5: trying to take the black man down people there as well.

2774
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 5: I also want to say that sexual consent at eighteen

2775
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 5: would have a lot of other kids locked up without

2776
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 5: Romeo Juliet Lost. I think that's why they are caught.

2777
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 5: What they are called. This is too merch me me,

2778
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 5: it is a lot. And thank you for frightening and

2779
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 5: I feel you on all that shit. And that's why,

2780
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 5: like I said, when I'm talking about try to make

2781
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 5: it like the bigger picture, because it's so easy to

2782
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 5: just pick out a couple of people and be like

2783
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 5: this person is a monster. It's like, yes, we are

2784
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 5: monstrous as a society because we enable those people. They

2785
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 5: would not exist if it were not for the fact

2786
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 5: that it was normal for most people. The problem with

2787
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 5: r Kelly's he took it too far, you know, for

2788
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people, that's the only problem.

2789
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:26,280
Speaker 4: It's just, oh, he took it too far, like too.

2790
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 5: Many girls and you you got you you end up

2791
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 5: putting them in houses and shit like that's the shit.

2792
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 5: That's like the fact that he was out there having

2793
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:37,320
Speaker 5: sex with young underage girls.

2794
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 4: That's not really the problem for a lot of people.

2795
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 1: Mmm, been poked across the street from the school, that's

2796
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 1: not the problem.

2797
02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's many songs about this and everything.

2798
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:48,959
Speaker 5: Milk Toast said, I mean milk Toss by Jay who says, what's.

2799
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:49,200
Speaker 1: Up a ride?

2800
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 4: How you doing, Caaren? I was wondering if you have

2801
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 4: seen the Dame.

2802
02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 5: Dash interview when he was talking about distancing himself and

2803
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 5: the best of bour world albums and tours.

2804
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts if you have any about it?

2805
02:08:58,800 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 7: Uh?

2806
02:08:59,200 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 4: Karen?

2807
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: Did you shit? Mm hmm.

2808
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 4: I saw a little bit of it. I'm gonna be

2809
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:03,120
Speaker 4: real with you.

2810
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Speaker 5: I think it was on Nick Cannon's podcast, so I

2811
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:10,400
Speaker 5: was already done. But now I've seen a little bit

2812
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,200
Speaker 5: of some interview with him. I don't even know who

2813
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 5: to do.

2814
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 4: It was next to him. It didn't look like Nick Cannon,

2815
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

2816
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 1: Man.

2817
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 4: Dame is one of them people that.

2818
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 5: He says a lot of stuff and I can't really

2819
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 5: let him be the launching point for me to talk

2820
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 5: about serious things, you know. And I don't mean to

2821
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 5: disrespect to him, but he says a lot of silly

2822
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 5: things and interviews, and then it really he's like a

2823
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 5: Facebook meme because people will go off on these tangents

2824
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 5: based off of his initial thoughts. But he didn't even

2825
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 5: finish his initial thought and he didn't quite make it

2826
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 5: make sense. And while he was in there saying how

2827
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 5: disgusted he.

2828
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 1: Was with.

2829
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 8: R.

2830
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 5: Kelly and Morley and all this stuff, he also was

2831
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 5: you know, when asked about the jay Z Foxy Brown thing,

2832
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 5: was like, that's a man's man's business.

2833
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 4: Don't ask me about another man business.

2834
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 5: So I don't know, because you talking about R Kelly

2835
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 5: and the leader is another man's business, and you had

2836
02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 5: no problem with that. And if there was something to

2837
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 5: the jay Z Foxy Brown shit, then you not acknowledging it.

2838
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 4: It feels inconsistent.

2839
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 5: And if there's nothing to it, then why wouldn't you

2840
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,839
Speaker 5: just say, man, nothing was happening, so leave me alone.

2841
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2842
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 5: It just seems like a dude I would not want

2843
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 5: to start a conversation off of, So I'll leave it

2844
02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 5: at that. Lauren says high Riding care Lasoy Ratchet. This

2845
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 5: episode with the god thinking his brother was a lizard

2846
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 5: might be related to the conspiracy theory from David Ike

2847
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 5: Ike thinks that the leaders of the US in England

2848
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 5: are other prominent figures are actually reptilians infiltrated human society.

2849
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 5: Once you get into it, once you get into one conspiracy,

2850
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:48,440
Speaker 5: you tend to believe in other states, saying Lauren, yeah, I've.

2851
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 4: Heard that consperience.

2852
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I read that conspiracy before, and yeah, Okay.

2853
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 1: I haven't and I'm glad I haven't.

2854
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I'm not into any of that. Hello from

2855
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 5: Japan again, how Roder Karen Love? You both just wanted

2856
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 5: to get your give thoughts on the Great Episodes This

2857
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 5: week episode eighteen eighteen Milk Toes.

2858
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 4: I was so frustrated and angry hearing this podcast.

2859
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 5: In regards to R Kelly, I worked for a TV

2860
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:13,880
Speaker 5: company in Japan from ninety six to ninety eight and

2861
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 5: interview to lead during her one and a million year tour.

2862
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 4: She was a real professional.

2863
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 5: I was grateful to have been given so much time

2864
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,680
Speaker 5: to interview her and hang during rehearsal, and they seemed

2865
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 5: very happy to see another black person in Japan all day.

2866
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 5: I asked what she learned work with R Kelly. She

2867
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 5: calmly said, leaned in. Oh, she kindly said, she learned

2868
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 5: a lot and that was very grateful.

2869
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 1: Wow. Did I really did not know? None of us did.

2870
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 5: Rod and Karen on keep saying that R Kelly is Oh,

2871
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 5: I guess rider. Karen keep on saying that R. Kelly

2872
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 5: is a predator and praise on the community. And yes,

2873
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 5: while it's a universal problem, it is my mom. It

2874
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 5: is My mom told me the hard stories of things

2875
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 5: that she saw and experienced in Harlem. That's very protective

2876
02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 5: of my sister and I and said constantly how scary

2877
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 5: and sad and infuriating it was and still is to

2878
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:01,080
Speaker 5: hear when black adults said the girl was too fast

2879
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,640
Speaker 5: or being fresh, even if they were being praid ofpon,

2880
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 5: I don't have kids, but keeping a lookout for kids

2881
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 5: because the wolves are out there and they do back

2882
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,640
Speaker 5: off when an adult is wise to that shit.

2883
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 1: R Kelly is a scourge. Yes they do, Yes, they do,

2884
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 1: Yes they do. You let an adult pop in for

2885
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 1: most of the time, they will disappear. Yeah.

2886
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 4: The only thing about that is they don't have the

2887
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 4: researchers of R.

2888
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 5: Kelly correct, so he can like obscond with these girls

2889
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 5: in a way that these average you know, creepy dudes

2890
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 5: that are still sexual predators. They don't have a resources

2891
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:38,000
Speaker 5: to be able to like take like to do what

2892
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 5: he did with all these women, all these money hire

2893
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 5: people to keep him distant from shit.

2894
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 1: Because even if parents I said, yeah, demo apt to go, oh,

2895
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand here, they go around, they're find other means. Yeah.

2896
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,200
Speaker 5: And also even if he goes a tryut uh, he

2897
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 5: will feign ignorance at a lot of this, like things

2898
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 5: that he coordinated.

2899
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:56,880
Speaker 1: He'll be like, I didn't know that was happening. Yep.

2900
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 1: And that's why you have so many people around you,

2901
02:12:58,640 --> 02:12:59,720
Speaker 1: so you'll be like I did not.

2902
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 4: New eighteen nineteen. Peter my good friends said it years ago.

2903
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 5: Coll's white people have tried for like ever to talk

2904
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 5: to damn animals like dolphins rather than communicate with black

2905
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:12,800
Speaker 5: and brown folks. That Fox Nation, Mammy beatbox for the

2906
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 5: Wall All hell not one hundred, episode eighteen twenty one,

2907
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:19,400
Speaker 5: Fucker with Black People Teacher Suits for Racism, FYI. Comack

2908
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 5: is in Nassauth County, Long Island, eastern suburb of New

2909
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 5: York City. Lost of white flight, wealthy and redneck racist

2910
02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:28,839
Speaker 5: one hundred, one hundred and one hundred love you guys

2911
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 5: with pumpkin latte spice, Jeff in Japan, thanks man, thank you,

2912
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 5: and the last one. I believe this is a meal

2913
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 5: who says.

2914
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:40,000
Speaker 1: Feedback r Kelly, hi Rod and Karen.

2915
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:42,120
Speaker 5: I have not seen the documentary yet, but I appreciate

2916
02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 5: its existence. How we treat young girls as being examined,

2917
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:46,800
Speaker 5: and that's a good thing. It's not nearly enough for

2918
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:49,200
Speaker 5: this to start the same kind of recording that's happening

2919
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:51,320
Speaker 5: in Jamaica, with the spotlights being placed on these older

2920
02:13:51,360 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 5: dudes that pray.

2921
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:53,440
Speaker 1: On teams, especially in the churches.

2922
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:55,680
Speaker 5: One thing that needs to change that doesn't seem to

2923
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:57,520
Speaker 5: go away no matter how old I get, is this

2924
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,360
Speaker 5: notion that these girls are somewhat somehow it fought or

2925
02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:02,680
Speaker 5: bears on responsibility for the shit being done to them.

2926
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:05,120
Speaker 5: I think back to when I was sixteen and the

2927
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:07,640
Speaker 5: questionable decisions I made simply because I was younger. The

2928
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 5: parents bear a lot of responsibility, but I see them

2929
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 5: as victims too, albeit to a much lesser extent.

2930
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 4: In terms of all the.

2931
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 5: Artists that choose to work chose to work with him

2932
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 5: when they should have known better. It is a direct

2933
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 5: reflection on the toxicity. The showbiz take the Kashi six

2934
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 5: y nine. That guy wasn't really a rapper. He was

2935
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:27,680
Speaker 5: basically an Instagram personality that gravitated to the SoundCloud scene

2936
02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 5: as a way to get more famous. He hit a

2937
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,839
Speaker 5: wall at a certain point because of the sexual assault

2938
02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 5: allegations that were pending. Producers didn't want to give him beats,

2939
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:37,640
Speaker 5: and no other artists wanted to work with him because

2940
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 5: he had a reputation as a child predator. Then he

2941
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:42,320
Speaker 5: got lucky and had a hit that everybody was bumping,

2942
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:46,520
Speaker 5: even on rap radio. I don't know what it was

2943
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,640
Speaker 5: because I don't know any niggas music songs. All of

2944
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 5: a sudden, everybody wanted to work with him, give him

2945
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:55,080
Speaker 5: the beats feature on his songs, on his records. Artists

2946
02:14:55,120 --> 02:14:58,560
Speaker 5: you think wouldn't don't need to scrounge for relevance or

2947
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:01,200
Speaker 5: clamoring to work with his predator, even though six months

2948
02:15:01,240 --> 02:15:03,560
Speaker 5: prior he was a parade. All that to say, the

2949
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 5: spotlight on Kelly is appreciated because best believe there's another

2950
02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 5: talented nigga around the corner waiting on the chance to

2951
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,800
Speaker 5: pray on the vulnerable. So hopefully it becomes less possible

2952
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:15,080
Speaker 5: to do that. That is a fucking great point, by

2953
02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 5: the way, about Takashi, great point, same thing with xx

2954
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:20,920
Speaker 5: tentation on dying.

2955
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:24,560
Speaker 4: Like, we have not really changed that much.

2956
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 5: The only thing he changed is social media and the

2957
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 5: ability to put out the other side of things.

2958
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 4: But the industry, the fans, people don't really care.

2959
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:35,200
Speaker 1: They don't really care.

2960
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:38,000
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the podways.

2961
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,720
Speaker 5: I must admit I didn't really miss you negroes because

2962
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:41,560
Speaker 5: I had that premium.

2963
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:43,080
Speaker 4: So you guys are all up in my ear host

2964
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 4: dout the holidays. Peace, Thanks Amel, thank you.

2965
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah you a premium we never stopped.

2966
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got some movie reviews and stuff like that,

2967
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 5: and a couple premium podcasts, even though we took off

2968
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:57,400
Speaker 5: more of those than normal.

2969
02:15:57,480 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, all right.

2970
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:03,400
Speaker 1: And then lastly we got some gifts we did in

2971
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 1: the mail, in the regular mail.

2972
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:09,160
Speaker 5: The snail mail. We have a PO box. People sending

2973
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,160
Speaker 5: us things from time to time. Holidays just pass yep.

2974
02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:14,280
Speaker 1: Go to the black Out hood Tips and click on

2975
02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:17,080
Speaker 1: about and it will give you our PO box address.

2976
02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 5: There's a bag of stuff that came with a note

2977
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:22,240
Speaker 5: that says high riding can Here's a little something to

2978
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 5: get your white Woman to color life started out right

2979
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen.

2980
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:27,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for many hours of entertainment.

2981
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:28,120
Speaker 1: Ev E.

2982
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:30,400
Speaker 4: Let's see what ev E got for us. Oh, she

2983
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:31,600
Speaker 4: must have went to Marshalls.

2984
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:35,199
Speaker 5: Angie's Boom chick or pop, pumpkin spice, kettle corn.

2985
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm a fan of kettle corn. Thank you.

2986
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:42,200
Speaker 4: Boom chicken pop that boom boom boom. See what else

2987
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:42,640
Speaker 4: is in hell?

2988
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

2989
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:46,800
Speaker 4: Another bag of popkins Boom chicken pop.

2990
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh yo, I will beat in the hell out of bag.

2991
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:53,760
Speaker 5: I got what looks to be a candle melon seawater

2992
02:16:54,480 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 5: m m. That smells so good and you know it's funny.

2993
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,360
Speaker 5: The other candle, somebody got me the D's Nuts candle.

2994
02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:02,920
Speaker 5: It's running out. It's almost over, so I'm gonna leave

2995
02:17:02,920 --> 02:17:05,280
Speaker 5: this one in here and we're gonna move on to.

2996
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:07,600
Speaker 1: The next one, on to the next one.

2997
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:13,400
Speaker 5: We got pumpkin spice pie, a little little small pumpkin

2998
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:20,520
Speaker 5: spice pie. We got some wild Wire coffee things that

2999
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:23,080
Speaker 5: are pumpkin spice. I don't even know what coffee things are.

3000
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 1: The candy I don't know either.

3001
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:26,320
Speaker 4: It's an edible coffee treat.

3002
02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:28,400
Speaker 1: We got something from Wild Wires.

3003
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:31,240
Speaker 4: Uh, and then another punkin spice pie.

3004
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:36,160
Speaker 5: Thank you, okay, cool, well, I will eat them.

3005
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:38,240
Speaker 4: I appreciate you even thanks for looking out.

3006
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:38,880
Speaker 1: For thank you.

3007
02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:40,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

3008
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:46,040
Speaker 5: We also got this Amazon cardon We got this Amazon

3009
02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:51,520
Speaker 5: thing in the mail. Okay, and it says here, dear

3010
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 5: rod O was listening to episode eighteen sixteen strongly wished

3011
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:58,039
Speaker 5: for you to have the knife you want. Cooking is

3012
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 5: my passion too, and sharp knight really makes all the difference.

3013
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:03,000
Speaker 5: Lots of love to you and Karen.

3014
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:07,040
Speaker 4: Oh, let me open this up.

3015
02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh sh it's the most slicing and dicing you're gonna

3016
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 1: be doing from.

3017
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:13,280
Speaker 4: My wish list.

3018
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:20,400
Speaker 5: Uh, okay, all right, Oh oh, I think I know it.

3019
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:21,080
Speaker 4: I think I know it.

3020
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 1: Pretty box. Mm hmm.

3021
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 5: Let's see how you're open this slide. Yeah, I think

3022
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:31,920
Speaker 5: it might be one of the ones. Oh no, no, no,

3023
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:36,199
Speaker 5: it opens like this. Okay, okay. Oh, first of all,

3024
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,120
Speaker 5: look at this. It comes with this wrap here. I

3025
02:18:39,160 --> 02:18:42,160
Speaker 5: don't know if this is a sheath, says Lucky Cook.

3026
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 5: And then y'all can see it in here like this.

3027
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 5: Look at me, it's a professional, saying tocal knife. It

3028
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:58,080
Speaker 5: comes in the gift box and it's brand new. Oh,

3029
02:18:58,120 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 5: I'm in love.

3030
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 4: Oh yes, oh, this is what I'm talking about, y'all.

3031
02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:05,519
Speaker 1: For the left handed.

3032
02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:10,040
Speaker 5: Chef in you Okay, pretty that Japanese style. Okay, yeah,

3033
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 5: they're known for that. Oh my god, popular. I'm not

3034
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:15,640
Speaker 5: gonna touch the edge because I know what the probly

3035
02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:19,240
Speaker 5: cut me. But oh my god, thank you so much. Okay,

3036
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:23,520
Speaker 5: left handed knives, I mean left handed knives, and it

3037
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:25,080
Speaker 5: come with a case to put it right back in.

3038
02:19:25,879 --> 02:19:26,760
Speaker 4: Left handed knives.

3039
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 5: Man, there are gods in and people didn't even know

3040
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 5: knives had a head. I don't know why in Japan

3041
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:35,680
Speaker 5: they're left handed, but I will take them, thank you,

3042
02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:39,080
Speaker 5: and I will be using that to cook up something soon.

3043
02:19:39,240 --> 02:19:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember when you was talking about me,

3044
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:43,600
Speaker 1: get you to say a lot of people were asking

3045
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:45,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are right handed because we

3046
02:19:45,320 --> 02:19:48,039
Speaker 1: live in the right handed the world. We didn't even

3047
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 1: know knives were made left handed, and then they didn't

3048
02:19:51,760 --> 02:19:54,680
Speaker 1: know that you can also get knives made right handed.

3049
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:56,959
Speaker 4: A lot of people just know, first of all, the

3050
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:58,320
Speaker 4: default knife is right handed.

3051
02:19:58,400 --> 02:20:00,400
Speaker 1: Yes, you can get it cut more more the right

3052
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:01,680
Speaker 1: way she cuts better.

3053
02:20:01,720 --> 02:20:03,600
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just letting y'all know the default knife is

3054
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:04,080
Speaker 4: right handed.

3055
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it is right handed or the centered, but most

3056
02:20:05,959 --> 02:20:08,160
Speaker 1: of the time they still cut it to the right right.

3057
02:20:08,200 --> 02:20:10,879
Speaker 4: The default knife is right handed. The grips on them

3058
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:12,039
Speaker 4: is the thing that makes.

3059
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:15,039
Speaker 5: Them the hand that right handed most of the time,

3060
02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:17,560
Speaker 5: and then also sometimes the way that their edge, but

3061
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:19,959
Speaker 5: mostly just the default is right handed.

3062
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Agree, So you gotta go out ther way to get.

3063
02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:24,320
Speaker 4: A left handed knife.

3064
02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:25,880
Speaker 5: If you put it in the Amazon, it's not even

3065
02:20:25,879 --> 02:20:28,680
Speaker 5: a lot of choices, and it's not a set. It's

3066
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,640
Speaker 5: one knife normally maybe two. So thank you so much

3067
02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:33,879
Speaker 5: for that left handed knife. It will get put to use.

3068
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 5: We got this card in the mail. The front of

3069
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,880
Speaker 5: it says, we offer our heartfelt things for your support

3070
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:41,680
Speaker 5: in our first year.

3071
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 4: May your holidays and New Year be filled with joy.

3072
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:48,600
Speaker 5: And it's our girl Olivia from Chicago because she start

3073
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,600
Speaker 5: her own law office. They try to get up off

3074
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:54,800
Speaker 5: of the internet because because crocodile's be eating kids and ship.

3075
02:20:54,879 --> 02:20:56,840
Speaker 4: But she was, she was not the term.

3076
02:20:56,959 --> 02:20:59,600
Speaker 5: She rolls from the from the ashes like a phoenix

3077
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:03,320
Speaker 5: of law, allegal phoenix, allegal eagle.

3078
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:05,160
Speaker 1: If you will, dear.

3079
02:21:05,080 --> 02:21:08,360
Speaker 5: Roder care, happy New Year and a big toast to

3080
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:11,000
Speaker 5: you both for all your success at twenty eighteen. Thanks

3081
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:14,000
Speaker 5: for always being an inspiration for those of us who

3082
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,320
Speaker 5: do things our way. Lots of love, Olivia, Thank you, Olivia,

3083
02:21:17,480 --> 02:21:20,320
Speaker 5: thank you, and I'm glad to be the voice of

3084
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:23,440
Speaker 5: a generation and an inspiration of so many people. Yes,

3085
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:26,960
Speaker 5: it's honestly humbly to even have to acknowledge that.

3086
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:29,720
Speaker 4: Then we got a box of stuff. It was a

3087
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:30,520
Speaker 4: big ass box.

3088
02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:33,039
Speaker 5: We got a box of stuff, and it says, hey,

3089
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:37,680
Speaker 5: Karen Rod, just just a little treat from Thailand.

3090
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 1: We never been, but I show has Yo Forrido.

3091
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:43,720
Speaker 5: I picked up some interesting kit cats for Rod to

3092
02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:46,600
Speaker 5: torture us with a smiley face. Since you are all

3093
02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:49,480
Speaker 5: an awesome Yelp reviewer, I thought y'all were like some

3094
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:50,120
Speaker 5: Yelp swag.

3095
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:52,520
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I dropped my bag and the water bottle has.

3096
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:52,920
Speaker 4: A little ding.

3097
02:21:53,520 --> 02:21:56,000
Speaker 5: I went to several yelp Elite events during the year

3098
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,320
Speaker 5: and wanted to share the wealth. Happy holiday to you both.

3099
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:00,240
Speaker 5: Thank you, and it's for our girl and g a

3100
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:03,240
Speaker 5: Ka veggie vixen. Let me open, let me look up

3101
02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:06,640
Speaker 5: sitting this box, we got a.

3102
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:14,000
Speaker 4: Yelp frisbee go outside and play some frisbee. Got uh oh,

3103
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:16,080
Speaker 4: we got this bag from Tyland. I guess it's like

3104
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:20,039
Speaker 4: a corn person or something. I don't know what you Yeah,

3105
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:21,360
Speaker 4: this is very pretty. You see that.

3106
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:25,000
Speaker 5: Y'all got the water bottle with the ding in it,

3107
02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:33,360
Speaker 5: that's what gives personality. We got some crispy jasmine rice

3108
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:35,560
Speaker 5: with mango and white chocolate.

3109
02:22:36,800 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 4: It says recipes.

3110
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:38,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

3111
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:40,000
Speaker 5: We're supposed to put it together ourselves and get some

3112
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,119
Speaker 5: mango and chocolate put it in there.

3113
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, but uh, we'll figure it out.

3114
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:51,560
Speaker 5: As long as the instructions in English, I'll figure it out.

3115
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:54,200
Speaker 4: There's just so much stuff in here.

3116
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:54,840
Speaker 1: This is crazy.

3117
02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:58,600
Speaker 4: Yelp sweatband for your wrist.

3118
02:23:00,280 --> 02:23:01,920
Speaker 1: Uh. I don't know.

3119
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:05,640
Speaker 5: Some type of ball that has like a design in

3120
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 5: the middle of it. I don't know if you guys

3121
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:08,240
Speaker 5: can see it through that see.

3122
02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:08,560
Speaker 8: Yes.

3123
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that come apart or not. I

3124
02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:10,959
Speaker 1: don't know.

3125
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 5: A various kit cats, kit Cat do milk tea flavor,

3126
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 5: kit Cats green tea flavor, a yelp minted fresh like

3127
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:27,959
Speaker 5: mint or something good grief Uh, some yelp stickers.

3128
02:23:28,879 --> 02:23:31,879
Speaker 1: Uh, oh my god.

3129
02:23:32,120 --> 02:23:36,160
Speaker 4: A shot glass of some sort with a mustache.

3130
02:23:36,200 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: It says yelp.

3131
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know where to put all this stuff.

3132
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:45,960
Speaker 5: A nail foul for yelp, yelp has nail fowls? Now, wow,

3133
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:46,879
Speaker 5: what don't they.

3134
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:49,280
Speaker 4: Make, Neil Salon.

3135
02:23:50,480 --> 02:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I guess you can anything.

3136
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 5: All kinds of yelp, all kinds of candy recipe by

3137
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:58,320
Speaker 5: a King power.

3138
02:23:58,400 --> 02:23:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

3139
02:23:58,959 --> 02:24:00,520
Speaker 4: That's some candy.

3140
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Another ball.

3141
02:24:04,160 --> 02:24:06,880
Speaker 4: Man, more candies and more stickers. Oh, one of the

3142
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:11,640
Speaker 4: shot glasses broke. I'll be careful with the text. We'll

3143
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:13,520
Speaker 4: throw those pieces away.

3144
02:24:14,120 --> 02:24:18,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, thank you, and I believe that's everything.

3145
02:24:18,280 --> 02:24:19,119
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

3146
02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 5: It was you guys are too kN I know this

3147
02:24:22,600 --> 02:24:25,320
Speaker 5: is a long feedback show, uh but uh, this is

3148
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:27,039
Speaker 5: what a lot of people want. We wanted to read

3149
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:31,160
Speaker 5: your feedback and get y'all's your stuff. Let you know

3150
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 5: you heard.

3151
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:35,280
Speaker 4: All right, We'll be back tomorrow with a more regular show.

3152
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:37,039
Speaker 1: Until then, I love you,