1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: To be the first one to win this award. I 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: will carry your family's name with more honored now that 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm retired, more than I did when I played s 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I owe that to your family that when they's Walter 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Payman or the year my name is mentioned, it's with 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the highest level of service possible. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, I'm Peanut Tohiman and this is the 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: NFL Player Second X podcast and with him as always 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Montrosity co host Roman Harvard. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: Why you look so serious? 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm not just why you look so well, because you 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: just yelled at me before we started. So I'm really 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: excited about this interview. This guy's a legendary player. We 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: all grew up watching him, yes, from his college days 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: at Florida State to his NFL career with the Tampa 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers, and you can't wait to sit down and 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: talk to him about also what he's doing now in 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: his second acting. 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: I know it's gonna bee a great one. 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Fourteen year NFL VET Walter Peyton, Man of the Year, 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Famer, NFL all time top one hundred player. 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: So that means he's got you got two coats. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: He got, he got the maroon jacket. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Ain't he got the gold jacket? Oh, there's the maroon jacket. 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: When you go that one when you bruh, I didn't 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: know that. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Yes, I learned. 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: It's like wine. It's it's a pretty dope color too. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: They say that age is better with time. 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and he's currently the guy. When you get 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: fine and you don't agree with the fine, you gotta 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: pill it to this man. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Derek 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: Brooks to the show. 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you, my pleasure. It's 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: my pleasure. 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Well, Derek Man, get right into that one. Yeah, I 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: will get jumped right into it. I always talk about 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: how I never thought that I would be in the 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: media space, right. The media was always that looked upon 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: as the enemy. Yes, yeah, I mean I don't know 41 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: what the angle they're coming at. And I wonder if 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: you think the same thing, because you're on the opposite 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: side of you are now the person that says this 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: is determinedifying this. 45 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: That and the other. 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: We call you the appeal, knowing that you used to 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: be the one that was trying to call the appill 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: and all the other Senate So how did you get 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: into this job. Talk to us kind of like what 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: exactly do you. 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: Do or share with well, thank you? 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: So, uh, I'm the lead what we would say, the 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: lead appeals officer for the NFL, And this position is 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: the only job that was created by the collective bargaining agreement. 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: So the I like to say, there's no door closed 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: to this position. No matter if your NFL, nfl PA, 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: our governing documents, this is the only. 58 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: Position that's reference. 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I'm truly neutral when it comes 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to the governing of the game in terms of the rules. 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: And I always take a moment to explain to our 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: fellow players. I tell them, guys, I played longer than 63 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I have been a pills officer, so I do not 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: find this position. Do not find players I know all 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: the time because they say, y'all, y'all find I say, 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: I say, let's define why a L L that does 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: not contain D R R I C K. So I 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: just and again when I explain to the men the 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: position and how I take it serious that this position 70 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: is you to talk to me in as colleagues, let's 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: talk about what the NFL said happened, and either I'm 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: agree with the NFL. I'm gonna disagree or I'm gonna agree. 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: But you know what, it wasn't at the economic level 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: that the NFL says it was, and we call that 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: it reduced. And what I try to do in that 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: process is keep the integrity and dignity that these men know. 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: My colleagues, your voice is not of being heard, but 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: they're being listened to. Everything you say, and your agent 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and the players Association attorneys is going to get considered. 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Some things are pretty obvious. Then you know, you go, 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: God grabs a face, mass he makes a tackle. I 82 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: tell you, guy, it ain't about the obvious place. What 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: I am listening to just to talk to you about 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: the position you play and how you ended up in 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: that position. Now, how can you be a better player? 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: So I treated with that dignity and I always make 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: myself available, and I think this has really been key. 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, in the twelve years I've been doing this, 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't run from decisions. And I tell players, once 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: you get my decision, if you disagree with it or 91 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: want to discuss it, heres how you get a hold 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: of me. I give him my emails because I want 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: it on the record, and I give them my phone number, 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: and I say, I will only talk to you as 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: my peer. I won't talk to your agent. I want 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: talk to your representative. I'll talk to you because your 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: money is being taken. And every year during this time 98 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: around the Super Bowl, that is the one compliment. Even 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: when players disagree, they always come back say, you know what, 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: I disagree rich and misrs brush, but I really appreciate 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: how you treated me and I appreciate the conversation you 102 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: had with me. And that's all I try to do 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: in this position and services real serve the men, serve 104 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: the game, or do it with the highest level of integrity. 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: I got a question, does it anybody actually reached back out? 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: Because yes, I know that's been to me. And I 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: was just like like once it was over, I was 108 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: either mad and just like walked away still mad, or 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: you know, I'm like. 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate that they did send that a little bit. 111 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: They knocked that down. 112 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do. And here's I tell all the 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: player appeal everything. Yeah, don't just willingly you didn't willingly 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: be in that position on the football fields, or don't 115 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: willing need to give into the price You've earned that right, 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: use it and going through it. When they reach back out, 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: it gives me a chance to have other conversations. And 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: that's really the secret that I've really trying to get 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: to with the players and guys do when they reach 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: back out, they say, we'll talk about the play. I'll 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: give them my opinion, and then I ask some other things. 122 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: How is your locker room, how are you doing, how's 123 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: your health? Where you're at this stage of your career. 124 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: A young player that I may see or know things. Hey, 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: you know what you're playing the game a little. They 126 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: could have done this, but they didn't. But let me 127 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: warn you about this. The scheme you're playing, especially with linebackers, 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: I love talking to them. And why you're lining the 129 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: seven yards deep? 130 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: Man? 131 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: You know it's an obvious run r PO tendencies. What 132 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: do you studying? I say, his on defense, reading the quarterback, 133 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: breaking on the football. What why you're backpelling five steps 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: when you can hop three and break later on? I 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: never thought that, Yeah, how about try that when you 136 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: get a pick? Der Brooks chaities will appreciate that. So 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: it gives me in a fun way. It gives me 138 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: that other connection, you know, to the players, and a 139 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of them when they do, then what tends to happen. 140 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Guys reach out to me that don't get fine because 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: they teammate has my information, so they end up reaching 142 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: back out to me. 143 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: And that's how I stay connected with the players. 144 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: Our show was my I think when I used to 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: get fine, Our show was my guy. 146 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Yes, Art schell Art was And I said, just like, 147 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: obviously you're a peanut punch. When players was getting fined 148 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: for that, they the rules says, obviously they throwing a punch. 149 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: But now that's a part of the turnover technique. And 150 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: I asked he was writing in that by four or 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: five years ago to the competition committee and trying his staff. Hey, 152 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: we need to look at this act very y different. 153 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: This is not the act of throwing a punch violence. 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: This is a turnover technique that we need to really 155 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: look at from the rules standpoint, look at and consider 156 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: in governing the rules. So I get a chance through 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the position to make those recommendations. I tell the PA, 158 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: here's what I think you guys should be fighting for 159 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to the players. Now, whether they do 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: it or not, again, their choice, whether the competition committee 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: listens to me, their choice, But they see the decisions 162 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: that are being made, you know, by myself and prior 163 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to James Thrash. We write these recommendations and now, like 164 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I say, just that turnover technique itself, it's really helped 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: the players now and then obviously we get players that 166 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: abuse it on the other side. Oh mi, bro, I'm 167 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: just trying to do the bean that punch man. You 168 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: swinging at the dude, Joe the ball there's nowhere near 169 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: where you were going. But again that's again that's some 170 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: of the things that goes on up under the hood 171 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: with the position. 172 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: Now, since you've had this position, have you seen, uh 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: the fins go down? 174 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has, and it goes in trends. So for instance, 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, you look at concussion data, concussion data has 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: gone down, which is very good for everybody because now 177 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: players are being more conscious in how they're tackling. The 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: defensive player side of me, see the mistackles three times 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: as much has defended without looking at defensive stats. So 180 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, and again it's just certain areas of hip 181 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: drop tackle. What's the big thing last off season this season, 182 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you just see a lot of that in terms of 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: the technique and when it was happening. We had a 184 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: chance to discuss how it was happening, you know, with 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: a player momentum, with a player open field, in these positions, 186 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: positions angles, if you're coming up from behind versus coming 187 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: from the side. So when they do those things and 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: those rules go in, this process gives you a chance 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: to go. Because there was a lot where John running 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: his staff, they find guys loud of these was rescinded, 191 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, by myself, and we had three new guys 192 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: this year, Ramon Foster, Kevin Mawai, and Jordy Nelson. They 193 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: all came on this year because there was a lot 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: to handle for two people. But as I was bringing 195 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: these guys in the process, they had a chance to 196 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: have a great appreciation too. I mean, it's ain't gonna 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: say silly, but when you think about things like celebrations 198 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: and obviously Roman you in this space with college football, 199 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: you see these guys. 200 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: It's out of control and Colge thank you. That's where 201 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: it starts, exactly. You guys are trying to break the 202 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: tendency now in the league. 203 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: Exactly, So how do you how do. 204 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: You tell a rookie coming in, hey, you're not gonna 205 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: be a This is for the cost you money, these 206 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: type of celebrations. So I try to tell guys, you 207 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: see that Cameron in zone. They want celebrate, They want 208 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: this content, but they want it as a unit. So 209 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: now when you start to see defensive players, everybody run 210 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: to the opposite zone. Those are guys that was listening 211 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: to this process. Celebrate all you want, but let's do 212 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: it with three or four other people. Let's do it 213 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: on your sideline. If you get a turnover on your 214 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: opponent's sideline, man, run them twenty yards to the middle 215 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: of the field. Find your guys and go to the 216 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: end zone instead of turn around looking at their sideline. 217 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: They know you made a play. You ain't gotta show them. 218 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: You ain't got to You ain't got to brag about 219 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: it because you want to come at you again so 220 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you can make another play. 221 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: So go find your teammates. 222 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: So again, just that when I'm talking about celebrations and 223 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: how do we govern that when the NFL content side, 224 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: when they go post these celebrations for views, guys getting fined. 225 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: It's a mixed message. 226 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: It is. 227 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this process allowed those two to connect. 228 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: Ops. 229 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: You got to connect with the content team. You can't 230 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: find guys if the content team is posting these things 231 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: as hey, look at the beautiful NFL and celebrate. Let's 232 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: get views, but it costs you twelve thousand dollars. So 233 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: this process allowed for more efficiency on their side. Even 234 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: to the teams. Teams better be careful about posting this 235 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: content because I'm a player. The team posts something I 236 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: did and I got fine, I'm going to see the gym. 237 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: Hey man, somebody need to pay that. Ain't at y'all 238 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: to post that. So it's better communication even amongst teams 239 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: and content when it gets to the operation of the game. 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: That's a great point as far as we talk about 241 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: the money the content, Like, I really hadn't thought about that. 242 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: I see it a lot in college. 243 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: Though it starts down everybody's doing this celebration, they start 244 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: flashing like that. 245 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: That was the new one. That was just bananas this year. 246 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: But I want to talk about some of the numbers, 247 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: the actual numbers. I looked at some of this. So 248 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: football in the stands now, is this being kicked thrown? 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: It's a difference right versus handed out? Yes, right, if 250 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: you throw it fine, right if you kick it fine, 251 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: if you hand it we're all good, correct, Yes, all right? 252 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: What about a toss? 253 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I said. 254 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: I can't I can't really get it to my mama, 255 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: but I want mama just for you. 256 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: But it's a general toss now. 257 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: And again that's where in these processes, like with our 258 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: process and when I do I handle on field playing stuff. 259 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: So when it comes to throwing the balls in the stands, 260 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: that's another area with John Wrightan and that who But 261 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: to your point, sometimes common sense intent, yes. 262 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: So I just want to know how do they come 263 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: up with the numbers. So the first offense is seven thousand, 264 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy eight dollars, get to change, yes, 265 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: the next one, the second offense is thirteen thousand, five 266 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: hundred and six dollars. 267 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: The one that's even crazier. 268 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: To me is a physical contact with the referee, which, yes, 269 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: sometimes happens, should never happen, but you know, it's an 270 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: emotional game played by emotional people, so we. 271 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: Know things happen. 272 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: First offense thirty nine thousand, five hundred and. 273 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: One dollar one. 274 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, really, and then the second offense seventy nine thousand, 275 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: zero and four dollars seventy nine thousand and four dollars. 276 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,479 Speaker 3: How do you come up with those numbers. 277 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: And you're forgetting you forgetting the other one, they can 278 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: suspend you. 279 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: Right after. 280 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: Yes, nothing, Oh I didn't know that. 281 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so anything the way that the rules are ridden 282 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: and I use they can go from zero to one 283 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: thousand off the egregiousness of the act. So somebody runs 284 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: and you know, say, for two hands shoves of ref 285 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna see those numbers. You're gonna see him out. 286 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: So they have that jurisdiction. And those numbers are actually 287 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: collectively bargaining negotiating. 288 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I thought someone just came up one of the. 289 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: Number. 290 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: They use these different formulas in negotiation with our players union, 291 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: and those numbers are a direct reflection of what's in 292 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: the CBA. Okay, the CBA defined schedule of the CBA. 293 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: All right, So how does that so Rom and I 294 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: playing different teams? I hit him, push him, whatever he 295 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: goes down, I get a flag. I get my personal foul. 296 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: I know I'm probably get fined or something like that. 297 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonnat a FedEx letter explain how the appeals process works. 298 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: So in that case, that act is going to be 299 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: looked at by NFL op staff and I'll just headed 300 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: by John Ryan reports up Detroit Vincent. So they'll look 301 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: at the egregiousness of what happened. What the referee report says, wegreiousness. 302 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I beat them up real good, you beat them up. 303 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Now they'll look at what you did to instigate it, 304 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: in what level that caused. Second, they'll look at the 305 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: response that he had in responding to that I knocked 306 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: him out. The third thing, they'll look at who came 307 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: off the sideline, who chose to participate in said confrontation. 308 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Because it also says in our rules you as a 309 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: player shouldn't run to the pile. Let the RELs do 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: their job. So you come to that power you're getting 311 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: yes years, yes, so, but this process, so you guys 312 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: go through. You get the FedEx letter. Now you have 313 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: ten days to appeal, so usually your agent automatically appeals 314 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: it for you. Within that ten days, you get on 315 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: a schedule of when you have free time, and we 316 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: have slots that the agents or the player. When you 317 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: log in, it will show you slots of time based 318 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: on your schedule to have the hearing. So every hearing 319 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: it is thirty minutes max or some even go a 320 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: little longer because I let players voice their opinion. So 321 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: then we'll get a day and we'll get a time, 322 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: so that day in time, you'll have all your representatives 323 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: and you able to have anybody on the phone represents 324 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: you you want, but typically it's a lawyer from the 325 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: union player and represents agents and who they want. So 326 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: we'll go through mark hearing. So I'll get on the phone. 327 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: I'll say p NAT tillman. Appreciate you exercising your right 328 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: to go through the ap pills process. I'm Derrick Brooks, 329 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: You're a pills officers. Please not everybody on this phone 330 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: represents you. Will have an opportunity to get me testimony 331 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: regarding as the legs. Fine, and know that the NFL 332 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: is representative from the NFL office is listening in, but 333 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: he or she will not speak. But you have the 334 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: right to know who's listening to this appeals. Please give 335 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: me everything you want me to consider, and I go 336 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: back and watch this play. 337 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: You will speak. 338 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: First, your agent will speak second, the unit speak third, 339 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: and then I come back to you to give me 340 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: any final testimony. 341 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: Out to hearing. 342 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Everybody speak, because I want your word to be the 343 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: first in the last that I hear. I read the letter. 344 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to read the letter. I read the letter. 345 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: Then I start you first, get it right down here 346 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: what they say. I come back to you say, hell, 347 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: are you satisfied with the representation you had today? 348 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: You'll say yes. 349 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: I say, Now, finally, once you get my decision, you 350 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: have any comments, questions, concerns, please reach back out to 351 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: me directly and let's have that Conversation's colleagues emailed me. 352 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: So I went on the record, Dick dot Brooks at 353 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. Here's my phone number. 354 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: You can call me. 355 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: I will only talk to you. I will not talk 356 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: to any one of these other representatives on the phone. 357 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: Here's over. 358 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Do you are like a black robe when you have 359 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: these conversations? 360 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Then you get guys on that we and we doing 361 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the hearing we have like you, hey man, roomman? 362 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: Did this? 363 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I said, Now you think you actually think he was 364 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: gonna have advantage on you? 365 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: That called you this? 366 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Something happened early in the game that made you feel 367 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: So I'll you my colleague. So it's I want to 368 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: hear from you for a reason. You'd have the first 369 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: and last word for a reason, so I attempt as 370 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: best I can. Yeah, they encourage guys to talk to me. 371 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 372 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: My my favorite one is h number one. You didn't 373 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: rescind the one when I hit a quarterbro at one time. 374 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: Oh, you already knew. 375 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: What it was. 376 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: He ducked bro. 377 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: He did, He ducked and like, I'm got my target 378 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: and then he changes his level. 379 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: He dug he didn't have he didn't have no adjustment time. 380 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. It's fine. I hate that. I can 381 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: tell you. 382 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: Still bothered by that a little bit. 383 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: He's like, he ducked, he chucked and ducked and then 384 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: I hit him. Fine. Whatever. My favorite one though is 385 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: Merton Hanks. 386 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: I had no no white showing in my socks uniform violation. 387 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 4: I don't. 388 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad shout out to Hanks. He took care 389 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: of me because I was like, I had no white showing. 390 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: I was like, why am I even mind? He was like, dude, 391 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: you got to like just try and get reduced like whatever. 392 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's nothing to reduce. I had no white 393 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: like nothing, but he was like, yeah, what's up. I 394 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: was like, why did I not have any white? I 395 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: was like, dude, this Monday night football. He's like, I 396 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: get it. 397 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: You gotta on Monday night. I'm gonna take care. I 398 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: give you like, you know what. 399 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, just for just hearing me out, working 400 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: with me what you're saying, and just be like, you 401 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: know what, just be making the call. 402 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. 403 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back 404 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: in a minute. I got a question for you. You 405 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier. You talked about tackling. The skill level, 406 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 2: the technique in tackling has not been as good as 407 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: where you would see it or like it. What would 408 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: you rate your what would you rate yourself as a 409 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: tackling your technique, your ability to do it, and then 410 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: what would give young people kind of advice to try 411 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: to clean it up? 412 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: That was my That was really one of my assets, yo. 413 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: Role just I wasn't a hitter. I wasn't no big thumper. 414 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: No, you weren't even like that big one linebacker, one 415 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: of the first smaller will linebackers. And that cover two 416 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: really kind of made it more. 417 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: Yes, everybody that so I was on, Yes, it was 418 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: on the cuzzle, changing the game. Then I was coming 419 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: along and coming in. Yes, you know, it wasn't the 420 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: size of Lawrence Taylor's, you know, Wilbert Marshall's. You and 421 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: your say, it was more the offenses opening up. You know, 422 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: back mid to late nineties, the ball was coming out, 423 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: offenses were scoring. You saw a lot of flex. You 424 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: didn't see the big running backs. You saw the Marshall 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: folks of the world coming in and Edrin James doing 426 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. So you saw a difference with that, and 427 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: more teams were going to it. So for me, it 428 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: was a by playing in space. I wasn't a hitter. 429 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I was a tackler. I was a grabber, get you 430 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: to the ground. A lot of my tackles were not 431 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: against bigger players, against receivers, backs, you know, tiny obviously 432 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: guys is having the ball. But it wasn't at the 433 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. It usually was in space. And then 434 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: when I'm actually having to tackle in the hole. For us, 435 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: it was by game tackle. We had that philosophy. No 436 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: one except a corner out on the island, and even then, 437 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: no one should make a tackle alone. That was Manti 438 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Kiffen Lovey herb all day and grained at in US 439 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: and practice. If two guys wasn't getting touched. We was 440 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: running to play again, like no one should make a 441 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: tackle alone. It was just we were brainwashed to that's 442 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: what we believe. So when I graved myself to the 443 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: highest degree, because that's that's what I made. Very few 444 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: times you catch me having big hits today, they don't 445 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: get a chance to practice that as much as we did, 446 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: and it's killing us. Everything is being governed and again 447 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: rightfully sold to get a healthier game. Right to guys 448 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: in our position now could live a full, you know, 449 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: life to the best of his capabilities, not having all 450 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: these car wrecks. I understand it, but that don't mean 451 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: I have to accept it just because you can't practice 452 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: as a team. There's nothing wrong with you doing something individually. Linebackers, 453 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you getting a teammate and you 454 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: guys walking through tackling and open field. You don't need 455 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: a coach governing that. You just need two willing bodies 456 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: that want to get better. That's what I tell them. 457 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: There's no excuses, no explanations. Yes, the fire system and 458 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: the physicality has governed the game, but nothing has governed 459 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: the fact that there's going to be collisions in some 460 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: of these open fields that you're literally not grabbing the guy. 461 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: You're trying to knock him down with your shoulder instead 462 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: of grabbing it wrapping him up. That is the safest 463 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: thing to do. And nowadays runners especially, they're making investment decisions. 464 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Once you grab them, they going They they going down. 465 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: But guess what, you gotta grab them. You can't not 466 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: try to knock them down with the shoulder. Well, assume 467 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: they feel your home, you feel your paws. Man, they're 468 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: going down. To the going down, man, get to the 469 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: next play. I got my fifteen, got my twelve. 470 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, they going down. 471 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: And like back when we play bigger receiver, like we 472 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: need that extra two or three. 473 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: They're not doing that anymore. 474 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: So get back to the art of grabbing, getting very 475 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: intimate and bringing them to the. 476 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: Ground body on the body. Yes. 477 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Do you think it's because the lack of guys are 478 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: I just see guys just diving that legs and stuff, 479 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: and they got their eyes closed. They're not really looking 480 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: at what they're seeing in the hit. And it's also 481 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: what you're saying, they're just trying to show their tackle. 482 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot more and I don't know why that's happening, 483 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: and it's got to start earlier. Though you guys, I 484 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: didn't tell anybody NFL we really don't teach. We ain't 485 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: got time to teach you how to tackle. You've got 486 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: to be that when you show up here or you 487 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: ain't gonna stay. It's a college thing, though, I think 488 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: that's a college thing. 489 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: I had a conversation with high schools. 490 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and and yes, we're trying to infiltrate from the 491 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: top down every areas of our game or growth down 492 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: to high school, whether it's officiating, where it's coaching, whether 493 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: it's rules. 494 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: You know. 495 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: I commend you know, the NFL, even their investment in flag, 496 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: because why are you're teaching grabbing? I could work with 497 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: that when now, because that grabbing a flag is going 498 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: to work, and grabbing a jersey, grabbing a pant leg 499 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: is grabbing something you're not used to the art of tackling. 500 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Even in flag, you're doing it. So I commend them 501 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: in doing it. But we just got to continue to 502 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: educate that us former players that are getting involved in 503 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: coaching in the youth leagues, we know better equipped us 504 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: with these techniques, these rules to help because these kids 505 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: are going to listen to us because they're trying to 506 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: get where we were. So our word is going to 507 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: carry more whether we like it. Whether we like it 508 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: or not, it is what it is, so let's embrace that. 509 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 510 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: So, so I see that, uh that that pain you 511 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: got on your left lapel. That's that's kind of that's 512 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: kind of that's kind of cool. You got one of 513 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 2: those kind of those pens. You do not, mister Brooks, 514 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: can you can you explain to one. 515 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: Mister Harper what that what that pen is? 516 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: Sir? 517 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: It is? But no, please please do. 518 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I figured, you know, you would be able 519 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: to it's it. 520 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: Looks good on you, sir. Can you please explain what 521 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: that that? 522 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: This is the Walter Payne Man of the Year lapel 523 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: and I was blessed enough to uh be awarded this 524 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: the first year that they renamed after mister Peyton in 525 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: two thousand. So I didn't know at the time. I'm 526 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years later the impact of hey, 527 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Man of the Year to the Walter Payton 528 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year. But those two words in 529 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: front of that would me I didn't grasp it in 530 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the year two thousand because I was so busy with 531 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: my foundation and youth work and Tampa, educating these kids 532 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: and getting them out of the projects. Just wondered, Hey, 533 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm diving into youth education. Okay, this is a recognition 534 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: that's going to help me do more. Let's okay, so 535 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: be it. But as I mature over the years, I 536 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: started to understand what he meant to this game in 537 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: terms of service beyond the game. I grasped it. Unfortunately, 538 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: probably two thousand and nine after I retired, and it's 539 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: like people started, hey, we really appreciate what you do 540 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: it off the field more you did on the field. 541 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: Those were things I was hearing around this country in 542 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: terms of Derreck Brooks. And that's where I actually called 543 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: talked to Jared Peyton and I say, you know what, Jared, 544 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: to be the first one to win this award, and 545 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: obviously you know what mister Payne means in Chicago, I 546 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: will carry your family's name with more honored now that 547 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm retired, more than I did when I played. I said, 548 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: I owe that to your family that when they's Walter 549 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Payman or the year my name is mentioned, it's with 550 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: the highest level of service possible when I told him that, 551 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: and that's what that's what it means to me. 552 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. 553 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: I didn't even know you wanted the first year that 554 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: they had renamed it or put his name in front 555 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: of that. 556 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. 557 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to take a short break and we'll 558 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: be right back. So you got I'm as we say 559 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: of the young kids, say, I'm gona give you a flower. 560 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: So you. 561 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: Fourteen amazing years, Pro Bowls, all Pro NFL Hall of Fame, 562 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: Top one hundred players, Man of the Year, all the 563 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: foundational charitable stuff that you do off the field, you 564 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: also built. You built the high school. 565 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: Show. 566 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes, like you've done amazing you one hundred percent graduation rates, 567 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent graduation rate and throw that in there. 568 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Derek. 569 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: Let you. 570 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: If you had to have a personal Mount Rushmore of 571 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: four people that have helped you become you today. Oh man, 572 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: who would those four people be? 573 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: Wow? Uh? 574 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: On the field? 575 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: Off the field man, you Well, I'm just obviously I'm 576 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna say this name, and not as a Mount Rushmore, 577 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: but just my foundational you know, being obviously my faith, 578 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: in my service, my relationship with God. That's obviously nothing 579 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: to compare to that. I think of my family, it'll 580 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: be a combination of my stepdad and my mom. You 581 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: know one thing my stepdad did that changed my life 582 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: was he whooped me in front of my fifth grade 583 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: class Spencer Bibs Elementary, second floor, Room two or five. 584 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: Miss Katie Lett was a teacher nineteen eighty five, farewear 585 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: to ninth. Remember the day the guy that tripped me 586 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: when I was running He had on brown socks. Yes, 587 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm still looking for that dude, but I was being 588 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: a class clown. He came up to the school, he 589 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: whooped me right in front of my class and say, 590 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: sure you how to get last for a lifetime, but 591 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: you won't get paid, and he did it. Got home 592 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: that night, told me, you're taking a gift that God 593 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: gave you in terms of being academically blessed, and you're 594 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: abusing it by making fun of others. Why don't you 595 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: be an asset son help kids that's not as smart 596 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: as you instead of being a distraction, Why don't you 597 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: help them? He never disciplined me again. Definitely had to 598 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: put him and my mom then forcing my mom would 599 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: have told me that, oh I'd have bleed her. One 600 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: thousand percent. 601 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: Not my dad. He's always working. 602 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: He ain't got My mom said it, Hey straighten up 603 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: you for real, So you know, just had to put 604 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: I was my parents. The next person I would say 605 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: is two coaches had to be Coach Bowden and Coach 606 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Dungee as my two and three just from the standpoint 607 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: of faith, family football and to see the way that 608 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Coach Bowen did it all different diversities of backgrounds. He 609 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: was solid man every Friday night building into us as men. 610 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: He gave his own chapel with every one of his 611 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: teams every Friday night, and it was so unique because 612 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: he would take a game playing point and have a 613 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: biblical story behind it, going to us that Saturday to 614 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: win every Friday night, and it was just him and 615 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: the team, no coaches, no trainers. He's like he said, 616 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: just me, me and my men. It's my time with them, 617 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: nobody else. And Coach Dungee when he got to Tampa, 618 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: really gave me a direction for where I need to 619 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: channel on my gifts of God when he said, we 620 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: will be a team that never loses a game because 621 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: we'll be a team that's playing the game of life. 622 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: And he would be a coach that coached a team 623 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: that this community would be proud of by how we 624 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: serve it, not by how many games we win on 625 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: the football field. Those things will take care of themselves. 626 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: And when coach gave that speech in front of the team, man, 627 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: I's like, who is this dude, Man, we just lost 628 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: twelve games last year. He come here talking about the community. 629 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: They wanted us to win on man, don't want to 630 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: Nobody had him as a head coach. This was me 631 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six. I'm sitting there like, Man, I 632 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: lost twelve games. I ain't lost twelve games, and since 633 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: playing football so I was eight. He talked about the 634 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: community don't want a winner. They got bags on their 635 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: heads right here. Man, that was my attitude first team meeting. 636 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: I loved him tell the story because he tells how 637 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: I was sitting there East House. 638 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: I was looking at him crazy. I look at Sap, 639 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 4: Sath look at me. 640 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go talk to him. I said, I'm gonna 641 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: go talk to him. When I did, walked in his office. 642 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Out we went to first practice, walked in his office. Hey, coach, 643 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: all due respect, Man, I lost twelve games. This community 644 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: want to winner. You never talked about winning the community. Okay, 645 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: but what about he said, Dear, God's expecting this conversation 646 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: about how usually acting. Let me explain to you. We're 647 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: talking about the game of life. That's what God has 648 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: in store for us. We're serving people. We're just using football. 649 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: The game of life doesn't keep scoring. Because God doesn't 650 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: keep scoring. We'll never lose a game. It would play 651 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: the game of life. We're gonna prepare all the football things. 652 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna be accountable. Those things will take care of themselves, 653 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: but we have to start here how we're gonna serve. 654 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: And the light went off. I got a coach so 655 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: he would be there, and probably the fourth had been 656 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: my wife, Carol. 657 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: A man. 658 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: This lady has known me since we were nine years old, 659 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: uh Spencer Bibs where I met her being a class clown. 660 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: She she'll tell us she couldn't stand me when we 661 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: were younger. The most she's like I was the most 662 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: irresponsible disresplantion. She hated me because I made life visible 663 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: for everybody. But she's known me my entire life. And 664 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, for her to be solid, 665 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, man, I sixth sixth grade, I looked at it. 666 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: That's my wife. I'm gonna make sure that. But she 667 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: made me work for it too. Man, you know, back 668 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: in my day to write the little letter, Hey you 669 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: go when you go out with me? Still and didn't 670 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: get no answer to what got high schools? Like, yeah, 671 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: you can take my books a class. Then I show 672 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: up around the corner. Man, three friends, I gotta take 673 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: all their books of class. Yes, hey take it to 674 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: the movie. Sure, I show up to the movie. I'm saying, 675 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: three friends there, like all right, y'all ain't getting on 676 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: the drinks. She gets a popcorn. Y'all get in the movie. 677 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: They win and watch the movie. I ain't have nothing 678 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: to get my own ticket. 679 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: Outside. 680 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 681 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so but it all seems just she would be 682 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: she would be there for. 683 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: Like that I do. 684 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: Man well, Derek Man, thanks man, and I love the 685 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: story you shared. 686 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: With Coach Dungee as well. 687 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: It's almost the same things I try to talk to 688 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 2: my kids in mine, especially my son about is that. 689 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: You know Coach Dungee more words than I. It's just 690 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: saying it's like, if you do the right thing for 691 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: the right reasons, not when you want to or when 692 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: it feels right. But all the time, usually good things 693 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: will follow that. That's what he's just trying to say. 694 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: This is the baseline of where we're at. 695 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: When nobody else is watching, We're just gonna be doing 696 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: the right thing and then God in time's gonna take 697 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: care of everything else for you. And so you are 698 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: a walking testament to that. So I appreciate it, man, 699 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for pouring pouring out to us. Man, it's been 700 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: great finally getting to meet you. And well i've seen 701 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: you meet you, yes, yeah, in this chapter in your life. 702 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: Man, you're wearing it well. 703 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 4: Brother, Well, thank you, Thank you number forty one. You 704 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 4: keep doing your thing. 705 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: Man Aside, You guys are truly a testament to preparing 706 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: to life out the football and being proud of that transition. 707 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: And I really really hope that we continue to have 708 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: platforms to share with the men that's playing this game. 709 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: Now that's don't understand all the ramifications of what owning 710 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: content being in the media. How do you leverage this 711 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: to when no one cares about what you're doing every 712 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: single day. They care about what you're doing, what you get, 713 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 1: and you guys could can't and will continue to show 714 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: them about how you guys carry your sales man in 715 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: front of these cameras. And again, as someone's watching watching 716 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: it all, I appreciate that, and again, continue, please continue 717 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: to maximize your platform because probably more of these young 718 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: players are watching us than we realize. And they tell 719 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: us that when I'm having these conversations with them, and 720 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: I just thank God for the platform of a pills 721 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: officer position get a chance to dig into those conversations 722 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: with them because they know, as one of them players say, man, 723 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: I got more resources being on a practice squad than 724 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: I ever thought I would, you know, And he just 725 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: got fined his first game. He's like, I don't even 726 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: know what to do with it, but I wouldn't not 727 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: have had a chance to talk to that young man. 728 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: Have you went and talked to the financial service your 729 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: sponsorship of your team and there financial services partner, They 730 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: will be gladly have an opportunity to talk to you, 731 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, build those relationships side side the locker room. 732 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: And saw it again. I want to protect this his name. 733 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: Saw this young man two days ago. 734 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 4: Thank me. 735 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: He has a trust, set up, insurance policies, a budget. 736 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: All these conversations happened from a young man getting fined. 737 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: Now he feels he's got his foot and he's a 738 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: major contributor for his team. Now, dope. 739 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: I like that boy. 740 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: He we thank you for coming on the part. I 741 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: feel like we should take a collection. I feel like 742 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 2: I feel like I was in church. 743 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 3: A collection for this guy is awesome. 744 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of that, But mister Derek, you also 745 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: one of the few brothers that you know got the 746 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 2: great waves, do you know just. 747 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: About Like yes, sir, That's why I mcfally man I 748 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: hit to make fall all the time. Man say man, 749 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: we do great wave brothers, like. 750 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: The Wave Brothers, great wave brother That's awesome, that's awesome. 751 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming out. 752 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh man.