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Speaker 1: You can be the one that makes or breaks you.

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Speaker 2: What is happening in everyone? Emily a body Here. You

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Speaker 2: are listening to episode two hundred and seventy five of Hurdle,

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Speaker 2: a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone from your favorite

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Speaker 2: athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their highest hies,

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Speaker 2: toughest moments, and everything in between. We all go through

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Speaker 2: hurdles in life, and my goal through these discussions is

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Speaker 2: to empower you to better navigate yours and move with

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Speaker 2: intention so that you can stride towards your own big

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Speaker 2: potential and of course have some fun along the way.

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Speaker 2: For today's conversation, I am chatting with Bashdy Cunningham.

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Speaker 3: She is an Olympic high jumper.

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Speaker 2: She's also a six time national champion, a Nike athlete,

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Speaker 2: a red bull athlete, and candidly. This conversation was one

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Speaker 2: of my favorites of recent memory, and that's large in

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Speaker 2: part because she's so open and honest with me in

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Speaker 2: a really beautiful way, talking about everything from her deep

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Speaker 2: rooted connection with her faith to the highs and lows

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Speaker 2: of sport. Vashdai has been in the game for a minute.

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Speaker 2: She first tackled the high jump back in fourth grade,

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Speaker 2: and now she is admitting that there are highs and

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Speaker 2: some not so stellar years, and all of these things

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Speaker 2: she has a greater understanding are happening for her to

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Speaker 2: make her better and to teach her something. Vashdai gets

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Speaker 2: really open about the difficulties that came with not performing

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Speaker 2: she also talks about her journey to being someone that

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Speaker 2: She talks about how she knows she wants to make

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Speaker 2: candidly the hurdles that come hand in hand with that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been taking a new approach, or maybe

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a pivot from my old approach

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Speaker 2: I have just come to this place where I really

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Speaker 2: not only want you the hurdler, to get to know

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Speaker 2: who I'm sitting down with, but then also I want

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Speaker 3: And I'm having a lot of fun with it.

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Speaker 2: I hope that you're having fun listening to this pivoted format,

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Speaker 2: and I'm always open to your thoughts, your feedback, so

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Speaker 2: single Friday, on the heels of Thanksgiving, one more time,

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Speaker 2: I want to reiterate how grateful I am for each

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Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with Vashdai Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: She is an Olympic high She's a six time national champion,

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Speaker 3: How are we doing today, Vashti.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so blessed. I'm so happy to be on

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Speaker 1: I stand what you mean.

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Speaker 2: What are your top priorities in terms of what you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I need a break from everything that has

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Speaker 3: I dig it, I dig it, I dig it a lot.

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Speaker 2: Also feel as though for context, for those that don't

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the basics.

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Speaker 2: Give me Vashtai Cunningham's one oh one high jump.

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Speaker 1: Go okay, So high jump one oh one high jump

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Speaker 2: I actually thought that was a great breakdown. Nine steps?

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Speaker 2: Is that average? Is that less more? What's like? Give

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Speaker 2: So how does someone get in to doing the high jump?

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Speaker 2: So that's so interesting though, like that perspective, I'm like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: But there is such a hesitancy about that first time

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was almost like my dad brought me and

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Speaker 1: out with this team, you're gonna go watch anyone. He

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just your father's influence on you. Also, you

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Speaker 1: Yes, my older brother, he's two years older than me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, for those that don't know, Vashti is quite tall

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Speaker 2: So it's almost as though someone would assume that you

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was. I remember volleyball was my first and

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Speaker 2: Would you say today, you're someone that's hard on yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think I'm pretty hard on myself.

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Speaker 2: Now, how do you think that plays out for you

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Speaker 1: So I think it puts a lot of pressure on myself,

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Speaker 1: and I think that I can deal with pressure. That's

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Speaker 1: You can only just sit here and trust and do

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Speaker 1: I think that the side when whenever my dad tells me, like,

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Speaker 1: That's when I realized, Okay, maybe it's not benefiting me.

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Speaker 1: How I think it is?

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Speaker 3: How am I helping someone?

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Speaker 2: When do you think that those questions became part of

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Speaker 3: And can you attribute that to anything?

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Speaker 1: I think that that came a part of my equation

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Speaker 1: But I remember being asked to do a Q and

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Speaker 1: an interview or something and I see people's faces like

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Speaker 1: they really want to know what I'm gonna say, because

439
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Speaker 1: maybe to other people, they're looking at me like, oh,

440
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Speaker 1: she did it, and this is what I'm trying to do.

441
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Speaker 1: And so I feel like it was one of those

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Speaker 1: moments where I was doing a Q and A about

443
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Speaker 1: something I didn't know about, and I realized like how

444
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: important my words are and how important it is for

445
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Speaker 1: me to actually like care about what I say and

446
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: not just say something because I think it will sound

447
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: right or because I don't want to look uneducated. You

448
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I know that that doesn't

449
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: have to do global warming, doesn't have to do with

450
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Speaker 1: the heart like and who you are, But that just

451
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: made me look at things in a different perspective. Like

452
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Speaker 1: they care so much about the global warming, I can't

453
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Speaker 1: imagine how the people who are down and out after

454
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Speaker 1: something bad happens peel you know what I'm saying like

455
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Speaker 1: something that I can relate to.

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Speaker 3: I commend you two for two things.

457
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Speaker 2: One for wanting to do that research because you wanted

458
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Speaker 2: to come in and not only feel prepared, but also

459
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Speaker 2: represent yourself in such a way. And then two having

460
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Speaker 2: that self awareness right to know, hey, this is bigger

461
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Speaker 2: than me, This is bigger than the global warming. This

462
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Speaker 2: is my opportunity to impact someone in a positive way,

463
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Speaker 2: whether or not it is in relation to this topic.

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Speaker 2: And to your point about okay, well there's people looking

465
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Speaker 2: at me now, I over the last few years have

466
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Speaker 2: really come into this understanding that everyone around us has an.

467
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Speaker 3: Opportunity to both be our teacher and be our student.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, regardless of if it's you know, you sitting

469
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Speaker 2: in front of a bunch of people presented with an

470
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Speaker 2: opportunity with Nike, or walking down the street to my

471
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Speaker 2: local bodega and the guy the cash register tells me

472
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Speaker 2: something about his family, and I have a moment to

473
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Speaker 2: reflect on compassion and learn something from this man And

474
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Speaker 2: this moment, right, it's so helpful to go through our

475
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Speaker 2: day to day with that lens so that we can

476
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Speaker 2: then in turn present ourselves and who we want to be,

477
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Speaker 2: and all of us individually make an impact on.

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Speaker 3: The people that are around us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know, thank you for saying that. I'm like

480
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Speaker 1: when you just said we always have an opportunity to

481
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Speaker 1: be the student and the teacher around people, like I

482
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Speaker 1: got chills because I do. I completely agree with you. You

483
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Speaker 1: can learn something from anyone, doesn't matter you know what

484
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485
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Speaker 1: born with different minds, and I think it's important just

486
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487
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488
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Speaker 1: I really love that, So thanks for saying that.

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Speaker 3: Genuinely waiting for an answer.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's so tough.

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Speaker 1: It is tough. I was in Budapest for World Championships

534
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Speaker 1: and I was in a taxi and the guy that

535
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Speaker 1: was driving us, he was super nice, and he was

536
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Speaker 1: explaining to me that he used to live in LA,

537
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Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, people walk on the

538
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Speaker 1: street in LA and they say how are you doing?

539
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: With their head down. They don't look you in your eyes,

540
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Speaker 1: so they don't want they don't really care to know

541
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Speaker 1: what's next. And this is like how he perceived Americans.

542
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Speaker 1: I guess, but they don't ask you how you're doing.

543
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like waiting to know your answer.

544
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a greeting. And when he said that,

545
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to be like that,

546
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Speaker 1: especially hearing that about my nationality in a different country.

547
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to be the exact opposite, because

548
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: we're actually not like that. We're I find it that

549
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: people are pretty nice in America. I just came back

550
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Speaker 1: from Korean. I'm driving in my neighborhood and my neighbors

551
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Speaker 1: that I don't know are all like waving outside their

552
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Speaker 1: houses and I was like, oh, I missed it here.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Barbie movie. Everyone, Yeah, hi that we relate.

554
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, when was the last time that you feel

555
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: like you answered the question how are you doing?

556
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I've answered that question so many times this week.

557
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Speaker 1: I don't know when I I don't know, probably the

558
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Speaker 1: last time, like my mom asked me.

559
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Speaker 3: Probably and what did you tell her?

560
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: Told her everything top to bottom, laid it on her.

561
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know how to deal with me,

562
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Speaker 1: So here you go. I'm gonna just tell you every

563
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: single thing that I'm dealing with and everything. Like I

564
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: talked to my mom a lot after Budapest, we sat

565
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: up in the room. Our flight was the next day.

566
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Speaker 1: We actually stayed up the whole night talking about everything

567
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Speaker 1: because she really gets me. She's where I got the

568
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Speaker 1: balance thing from. She told me, at some point, you

569
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Speaker 1: need balance, and I'm never gonna forget that. You know

570
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it has helped me finding balance.

571
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Speaker 1: So I'll tell my mom exactly how I feel. But

572
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Speaker 1: there's another part of me that doesn't want to put

573
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Speaker 1: my feelings onto anybody because I know people deal with

574
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Speaker 1: so much and I can carry my.

575
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Speaker 3: Own feelings understandable.

576
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Speaker 2: But also just because you make it look easy carrying

577
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Speaker 2: them doesn't mean that there are in people to help

578
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Speaker 2: you on your way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're right, You're right. I'm receiving that from

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Speaker 1: you right now.

581
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Speaker 2: I think it's really awesome that you had the opportunity

582
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Speaker 2: to process with your mom. What else did you do

583
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: when you got back from Worlds to help you move

584
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Speaker 2: forward after that hurdle.

585
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Speaker 1: I honestly came back and I got back to training

586
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: because I had one more competition and it was hard.

587
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Speaker 1: I can't lie. It was hard for me to come

588
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: back to training. I'm like very transparent and so I'm

589
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: gonna always be honest with everyone, like consumers, my friends, peers, associates, Like,

590
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest. It was hard for me

591
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Speaker 1: to come back to training. It was hard for me

592
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Speaker 1: to stay focused for the last competition that I had

593
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Speaker 1: because I was just so disappointed in my results, Like

594
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Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe what had just happened, and I

595
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Speaker 1: did not know how to move forward with the same

596
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Speaker 1: energy and the same joy that I came into the

597
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Speaker 1: season with. I honestly didn't know, but I kept going

598
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Speaker 1: and I just kept telling myself, you know, to trust God.

599
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Speaker 1: There was actually something. I'm going to bring this up

600
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Speaker 1: bal quick. I did an event in Oregon with another

601
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Speaker 1: high jumper and it was called here the Glory Eugene,

602
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: and so I had to track meet coming up. But

603
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Speaker 1: I also had the event, and I was supposed to

604
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: share my testimony at the event, So it was like

605
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: a double whammy where I was like, Okay, have one

606
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: more track meet, and then I have to do a

607
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: public speaking about my faith. I've I've never spoke about

608
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Speaker 1: how I came to Christ or what that story was,

609
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: never said it out loud to anyone, and so for me,

610
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Speaker 1: I was like so tore up mentally because I had

611
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Speaker 1: to jump and then I had to do something like that.

612
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: And so I came to the end of the competition,

613
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: didn't jump very well, and I was like, Oh, I'm leaving.

614
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the thing tomorrow. I thought I was

615
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: going to go into this thing tomorrow in good spirits,

616
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: like I thought I was going to be able to Yeah,

617
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I got a comeback story. Now I can say my

618
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: testimony in front of all these people. And it was

619
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Speaker 1: like the most not uplifting moment for me, was like

620
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Speaker 1: getting ready to go and share my testimony. And I

621
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: remember calling my mom like three times the day that

622
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I was supposed to stay my testimony. Nobody from my

623
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: family was actually able to stay for it, which made

624
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: a little harder, but everybody was busy, so I was okay.

625
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I just remember calling her three times, like, Mom, I

626
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: don't want to do this. I don't I don't have

627
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: the energy to do this. My heart's not in the

628
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: right place. I'm not happy to do this. I don't

629
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Speaker 1: want to go out there and be fake on stage

630
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: or be like just a negative energy because I can't.

631
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't even change my face. And she like talked

632
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: me through it. Every single time that I called her.

633
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: We talked on the phone for thirty minutes and I'm like,

634
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: you're so busy, Like thank you for talking to me.

635
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: She had me crying on the phone, and I ended

636
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: up going to the event and speaking and like all

637
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: of my joy was restored and I was like back

638
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: to being happy and that was the last thing that

639
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: I had to do for the rest of the season.

640
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: And I just was so thankful for my mom and

641
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: that time, because I was like, this is a time

642
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: that I didn't think I could get out of this

643
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: funk by myself. You're not even here, but you were

644
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: able to help me get out of it. And so like,

645
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: I really really cherish my mom and my dad because

646
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: they've helped me through so many things.

647
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that really happened for you and this idea of

648
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: showing up there and finding your joy again, and that you,

649
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: even when you felt alone or physically no one could

650
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: be there for you, you had the understanding and gratefulness that

651
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: someone is in your corner, even if they might not

652
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: be next to you. And that's something that's a lesson

653
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: that I think so often we need when we feel alone, Right,

654
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: is that knowing that there are people in our lives

655
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Speaker 2: that do want to support and love you, and sometimes

656
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: you just need to allow them to do it exactly.

657
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: And this, I feel like this ties together with what

658
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier of you know, the Q and

659
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: A with the global warming, just wanting to be educated

660
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: and wanting just caring how I was coming off on stage.

661
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: That kind of ties to what we're saying now about

662
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: like me just knowing that one person cared even if

663
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: they weren't with me, Like I want people to feel

664
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: that whenever I talk, like even if we don't get

665
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: to meet each other, shake hands, take a picture, Like

666
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I would like someone to remember what they heard and

667
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: to feel like there's a person with them just from

668
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: the message.

669
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: There's a question. I ask a lot.

670
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: I run a lot of female empowerment workshops and goal

671
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: setting workshops as a part of the work that I do,

672
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: and I always ask people, how do you want people

673
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: to feel when they leave you? And if you feel

674
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: as though you're not acting in a way that would

675
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: enable them to feel that way, then you have to

676
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: do a little bit of self reflection work. You have

677
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: to look in the mirror and ask yourself, why is

678
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: it that I'm not either being my true self or

679
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 2: holding back or acting in some kind of way.

680
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: What is it that I'm trying to prove or do?

681
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so for you, knowing how you want people

682
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: to leave when they and time with you, you have

683
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: that opportunity then to do that same reflection work. You

684
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: have that opportunity to ask yourself, how am I showing up?

685
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: And am I putting my best foot forward? And if

686
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm not, what do I need to take care of

687
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: so that I can again? Because I think we all

688
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: have that opportunity, right and we owe it to ourselves

689
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: in our one life to show up and present that way.

690
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: No, we do, You're right, we owe it to ourselves.

691
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: You said that you had never shared the story publicly

692
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: really about your journey with your faith. How old were

693
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: you when you actually became really immersed in your faith.

694
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: I was always immersed in my faith, but I only like,

695
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, there was just like those times because

696
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: I grew up in the church, like but my both

697
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: my parents are pastors, So there was times where I

698
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: was very immersed. Younger, which was for me would probably

699
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: be like sixth and seventh grade, maybe fifth grade, and

700
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: then I would have these phases of like trying to

701
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: figure out who I am and not be put in

702
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: a box. And then I would have phases where but

703
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I never loved my faith, But then I would have

704
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: more moments where I'm just immersed and not really having

705
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: any static stuff going around mentally. But when I turned

706
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: seventeen and I signed professional, that was a really big

707
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: moment for me because I wanted nothing more than to

708
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: leave and go to college. Okay, I wanted nothing more

709
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: than to leave Vegas, and I ended up staying, which

710
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: means is that I was going to stay around all

711
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: the vibes in Vegas, all the people, all the stuff.

712
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm just gonna stay here

713
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: with it, this stuff that I want to escape, I'm

714
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: going to stay around. And so I kind of think

715
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: that I leaned on God in that time, and especially

716
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: in my season, like I was doing so many things

717
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: for the first time, jumping against women who are older

718
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: than me, traveling to states that I've never been to,

719
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: and out of the country. I was just like doing

720
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: things that I was not accustomed to. I was just

721
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: accustomed to going to school and practicing in my storage

722
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: room with my whole team, my club team. And so

723
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: I think that that time for me was also like, Okay, well,

724
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: this operating only opportunity only came from God, So I

725
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: guess I need to seek God on how to navigate

726
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: this opportunity.

727
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: Was there anything in particular you mentioned, like growing up

728
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: in Vegas and wanting to get away from the things

729
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: that you really wanted to get away from specifically.

730
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it's people out here. I don't want to say

731
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: it's people, but it is people. Like I don't know

732
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: what it is. I love Las Vegas. This is my home,

733
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and I will like probably always have roots here in Vegas.

734
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: But there's just something about growing up in Vegas, like

735
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've seen so many people leave and

736
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: just come back and get stuck here. And I've also

737
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: felt ways like some people, like if I haven't seen

738
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: someone in a long time, I get the notion that

739
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: in their mind, I think that I'm better or that

740
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm like bossed up, and I just don't. I'm not.

741
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: I really like that I'm still you know what I'm saying,

742
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: still do the same things that I did when I

743
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: was in high school, some of the same things. I

744
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: still hang out with some of the same people. But

745
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: there's just like something about Las Vegas. I always tell

746
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: people that I think there's an invisible dome because we're

747
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: surrounded by mountains, so there's an invisible dome at the

748
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: top of all the mountains, and it meets over the

749
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: top of the city, and everyone's energy and their emotions

750
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: and their attitudes just goes up and it bounces right

751
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: back into the dome. And so that's just how I've

752
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: always felt living here is like I can be off

753
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: the grid, i can live as far as I want

754
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: to in Las Vegas, but I'm always going to feel

755
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: someone else's vibe somehow, and that's like something that I

756
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: just don't like.

757
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: When did you feel as though the decision not to

758
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: go to college and pursue this as your career and

759
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: your path started to really pay off for you.

760
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: I think that I saw it paying off as it

761
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: was happening. I really did see it paying off. I knew.

762
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: I knew my dad was hitting it on the head.

763
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: He told me, he was like, you can make money now,

764
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: or you can make money in five years. Like this

765
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: is an opportunity. The door is wide open, and God

766
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: has blessed you with this. And so I didn't even

767
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: hesitate when I was talking to him about everything. It

768
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: was almost like I just trust him so much that

769
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: I know he wouldn't lead me into the wrong direction.

770
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: And everything was happening at the same time. Like I remember,

771
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I went to World Changing. I went to US Championships

772
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: in Oregon and I won, which was not expected. And

773
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: then I got invited to Worlds and I won Worlds,

774
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: which was the next week. I had went home to

775
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: go to school, and then I came back for the competition,

776
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: and so I signed. In the peak moment of me

777
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: signing professional, I was experiencing success, and I continued to

778
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: experience it shortly after a year after, and then there's

779
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: like maybe into the fifth year or the third or

780
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: fourth year of my career, things just started slowing down

781
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, and so I just remember, like thinking

782
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: back onto signing and I'm like, dang, that was like

783
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: riding the high for sure, Like things were just looking

784
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: up every corner that I turned. And so I can

785
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: sit here and say, you know, every day is not

786
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: supposed to be your best day. Your body is not

787
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent every single day. Because I've done I've

788
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: been a professional for eight years now, and so I'm

789
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: like five years ago, you know, I would have thought

790
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: I was still number one, number one in the world, this, that,

791
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm just going through something that

792
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: all athletes go through. So I definitely got to see

793
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: the success. Yeah, the success was early in my career

794
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: and it's still here. It's just in ways that I

795
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: don't consider success.

796
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that really resonates with me, that every day is

797
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: not going to be your best day, and I'm sure

798
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: that it resonates with a lot of people listening right now,

799
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: because it is hard right to go through these periods

800
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: of time that you feel like you're on top of

801
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: the world.

802
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not just even talking about within sport.

803
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: I you know, have wins every once in a while

804
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: with work, but there are many times weeks, days, whatever,

805
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: that it feels like nothing's clicking. And so aside from

806
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: your tip on finding balance, what else do you have

807
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: to say to someone who feels like it's just not clicking? Like,

808
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: how do you keep persevering in the moments that it

809
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: feels like you're in this valley and you just can't

810
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: clear the next hurdle in front of you.

811
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: I would just say to seek God, honestly, because I

812
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: read my Bible, and the things that I read in

813
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: the Bible I genuinely carry with me every single day,

814
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: like I put them in my person, I ZiT my

815
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: purse up, and when I need that, I think back

816
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: to that moment and I'm just, like God says, consider

817
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: it pure joy when you trace when you face trials

818
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: of any kind, because the testing of your faith is persevering.

819
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's like going through something lets

820
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: me know that God is testing me because He's getting

821
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: me ready for something bigger than what I think is

822
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: coming right now. And that's like, truly where I find

823
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: my peace is knowing that God has a plan and

824
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: just being able to read about it because I honestly

825
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: don't read a lot of books. I only read the

826
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Bible because I feel like it feeds my soul and

827
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: that's like my go to in times where the balance,

828
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: where the shopping doesn't work and the photography and everything

829
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: else doesn't work. It's like Square one for me is

830
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: always going to be running to the Father because that's

831
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: honestly where I find my joy, That's where I find

832
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: my peace, that's where I gain my strength, and that's

833
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: where I find my understanding on literally how to go

834
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: through this life.

835
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really knowing like where you draw

836
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: inspiration from and knowing that there is solace for you

837
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: and whatever feels like a resource.

838
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: Right You have seventy.

839
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: Five thousand people that follow you on Instagram and way

840
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: more than that if you consider the reach of your

841
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: sponsors as well. Those people come to your page and

842
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: they see a high jumper, they see someone that's into

843
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: fashion and photography and someone that is admittedly pretty tall. Oh,

844
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: when you love in the mirror of Ashdai, what is

845
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: it that you see looking back at you?

846
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: That is a question right there, that might be the

847
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: hardest question of the day. I'm looking in the mirror

848
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: right now. Today has been like a weird day for me.

849
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: It's been just not I haven't had high energy today.

850
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: So when I look at myself in the mirror right now,

851
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: I kind of just see like tired. But on an

852
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: everyday thing. When I look at myself in the mirror,

853
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: I see like I'm God's daughter. And if I don't

854
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: see myself precious, I know I'm precious to him. That's

855
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: like truly what I see and what I tell myself.

856
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I think also what you said about today, I look

857
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: at myself and I see tired, Like that's relatable. That's like,

858
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: how if there's not one day of the next five

859
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: that you don't feel that way, then I'd be like

860
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: are you even human? Right? But it's knowing that there's

861
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: or for you that every day isn't going to be

862
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: like that, and if it feels like it is like

863
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: that every day right now, then knowing that there is

864
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: a light and that it won't be like that every

865
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: day in the future. But that starts with you, right

866
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: That starts with all the advice that you've given about

867
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: how you show up for yourself and how you make

868
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: momentum going forward. Knowing that there's opportunity in every day,

869
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: but it's up to you to create it.

870
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh, most definitely, it always starts inside, like in the heart,

871
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: not in the microphone, in the heart, like, it always

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Speaker 1: starts in your heart. Because what your heart's desires, well,

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Speaker 1: one God knows your heart's desires, but two also what

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Speaker 1: you have in your heart you're willing to fight for.

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Speaker 1: And so I would always just say, like, yeah, self,

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Speaker 1: reflect a lot, because you can be the one that

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Speaker 1: makes or breaks you. Nobody else can take it from you.

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Speaker 2: I love that what is in your heart you're willing

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00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: to fight for. I'm going to read you back something

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Speaker 2: I still have joy. The God of Peace is with me.

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Speaker 2: The season is about the strength of my relationship with God,

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Speaker 2: trusting his love through everything.

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Speaker 3: And it's not over yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for my family, church friends, and most importantly,

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Speaker 2: my heavenly Father who chose me prior to this sport.

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Speaker 2: I love y'all, and let's finish off strong. I read

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Speaker 2: that to you because that's the caption that you wrote

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Speaker 2: in the Instagram post that we talked about at the

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Speaker 2: top of this podcast, and having had the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: talk to you for the last forty five minutes, you

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Speaker 2: told me that even after sharing this socially, you were

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Speaker 2: still struggling. I say that because I think it's important

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Speaker 2: to bring together the highlight reel versus the struggle, knowing

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Speaker 2: that sometimes we have to go through our period where

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Speaker 2: we're talking ourselves up only to get there to meet ourselves.

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Speaker 2: It's that sometimes mood follows action. Can you talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about how that plays out for you?

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Speaker 1: Oh, that caption was like totally for myself. It was

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Speaker 1: like me writing that caption to remind myself, Okay, when

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Speaker 1: you get on this plane and you fly back, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and be in the air for

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Speaker 1: twelve hours straight thinking on a loop crazy things like no,

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Speaker 1: I have something to go back and look at. It

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Speaker 1: was like to let people know, you know, God got me.

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Speaker 1: But it was also really for me, like I had

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Speaker 1: to remind myself this is what you do, and this

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Speaker 1: is what you're doing, and this is just like this

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00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: is the proof right here, like you know, God has you.

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Speaker 1: You know the work that you've put in this season,

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Speaker 1: remember that and don't get caught up in the moment.

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Speaker 1: So for me, it was like, okay, let me just

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Speaker 1: remind myself with something like Instagram. Okay, I know I

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Speaker 1: got to make up I was like, I know I

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Speaker 1: got to make a post real soon. Here I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to make a post. I don't want to make

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Speaker 1: a post, So how can I actually get myself to

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Speaker 1: do this and not be fake?

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Speaker 2: I commend you for knowing your horror and knowing the

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Speaker 2: right way to show up in that moment, and it

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Speaker 2: perfectly leads us into the last question that I ask

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Speaker 2: all of my guests. Right now, you have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to offer yourself a piece of advice going through the

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Speaker 2: hurdle moment, let's say the one that we talked about,

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Speaker 2: not specifically about this last World Champce, but just of

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Speaker 2: riding the highs and embracing the lows. You talk so

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Speaker 2: beautifully about knowing that not every day is gonna be

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Speaker 2: your best day. So what advice do you offer yourself,

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Speaker 2: knowing what you know now to manage those hurdle moments.

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Speaker 1: This might be a little bit off, but like my

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Speaker 1: advice to myself is to when I wake up every morning,

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Speaker 1: get out of the bed and actually start something, because

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Speaker 1: for me, it does start right in my room when

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Speaker 1: I wake up. If I sit there and I lay down,

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Speaker 1: or if I go on to my phone, I'm ruining

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Speaker 1: my day in the morning. Like, I'm just not one

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Speaker 1: of those people who can wake up and like stay down.

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Speaker 1: I have to get up in order to give myself

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Speaker 1: the best opportunit counity for the day because I actually

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Speaker 1: need to follow that advice. So right now, that is

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Speaker 1: my advice to myself. It might not be the same

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Speaker 1: advice a month from now, but like, right now, get

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Speaker 1: up and get the day started. Girl, that's my advice.

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Speaker 2: Get up and start something. Vas I really loved this conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to have it.

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Speaker 2: For those that don't follow along with you just yet

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Speaker 2: on social let me know how they can do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you guys want to follow me on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: my name is Vashtizzle. It's v A s h t

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Speaker 1: I z z l E.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.