WEBVTT - Two Jersey Js: Check Yourself with Teddi and Tamra

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were just on to teason a pod, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't listened to that yet, go run listen download.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes are so Now we're going to do two Jersey Jays.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Jen Fessler, I'm Jackie Goldschneider, and we all know

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<v Speaker 3>who our guest is. Now. Hello, Teddy Mellencamp.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, guys, I'm so happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so happy to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>The Tables of Turn Now I am I.

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<v Speaker 5>In the Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna get yours. Yeah, I'm going to rip

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<v Speaker 3>you in new I Now ours is not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be quite as salacious.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you, We love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tamra had to step out for a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to be joining us a little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about health, which I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have so much to say and unfortunately so

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<v Speaker 2>much experience with lately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we're also going to talk more specifically about health,

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<v Speaker 3>women's health and women of a certain age. And you're

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<v Speaker 3>both Jackie and Teddy younger than I am, but focused

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<v Speaker 3>on of middle age women and what we go through. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's constantly like that, It is, it is. I've

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<v Speaker 3>always been this reaging hypochondriac. So I've been picturing my

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<v Speaker 3>demise since I was in my twenties, and I remember

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<v Speaker 3>just getting so freaked out because if I had a headache,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a brain tumor, and then my wish was

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<v Speaker 3>I would pray, please God, let me just have kids first,

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just get married first. Now it's like, what

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<v Speaker 3>about the kids, Like I can't and I don't. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get too morbid. But you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of health issues, I think that it's so scary

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<v Speaker 3>when you get to our age.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I would say the biggest and I've

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<v Speaker 5>talked about this before, but I'm hoping that it'll reach

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<v Speaker 5>additional people. If you are listening to this right now

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<v Speaker 5>and you currently do not have life insurance and you

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<v Speaker 5>have not done your last will and Testament and your

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<v Speaker 5>trusts or whatever it is that you need to have

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<v Speaker 5>in place, do it now, because it's something I had

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<v Speaker 5>not done prior to all of my skin cancer diagnosis

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<v Speaker 5>and now I cannot get life insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was testing.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So before you have you know, like I never

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<v Speaker 5>really thought about it, like I was like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean like me and Edwin know where the kids,

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<v Speaker 5>like my sister, you know, like we've talked about that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff. But once it started getting more real,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh my gosh, I need to have

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<v Speaker 5>like life insurance. And I went through the whole process.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to go through multiple different channels to then

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<v Speaker 5>get like an email you're rejected.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, Teddy, how old are you I am? I love that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to answer thirty six because like for life,

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<v Speaker 5>that's how old I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm forty two years old. So forty two years old?

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<v Speaker 1>And are you your cancer free? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm currently cancer free.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Such good news.

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<v Speaker 5>It's one of those things that I do need to

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<v Speaker 5>continue to get checked every three months. I think I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I ended up having over fourteen. On December twenty sixth

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<v Speaker 5>I had a huge surgery that's essentially my whole back

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<v Speaker 5>where they they essentially cut out the entire hole of

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<v Speaker 5>like my shoulder and then pulled my excess skin over

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<v Speaker 5>my shoulder and now there's like kind of like a

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<v Speaker 5>shark bite surgery. My shirts news did an incredible job,

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<v Speaker 5>but all of that could have been avoided had I

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<v Speaker 5>not like I'm an anxious OCD diagnosed. I'm not self diagnosing,

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<v Speaker 5>but like I am, and mine is not surrounding like

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like where you said, Jen, that you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like make up in your head, Yeah, those things like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm one of those people that avoids going to the

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<v Speaker 5>doctor because I want to pretend I'm always okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay. So I want to ask a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an uncomfortable question. And like the first time that

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<v Speaker 2>you went in and they told you that you had cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what hearing those words?

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<v Speaker 3>What was that like for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the first time I went in, truthfully, I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>think it was a big deal. I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 5>anybody that had skin cancer. I didn't know anyone that

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<v Speaker 5>in my mind that was just something you cut out

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<v Speaker 5>and you get right.

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<v Speaker 3>I would feel the next right. That's like, I do

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<v Speaker 3>know plenty of people that have had skin cancer, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not you think of it like I get moved

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<v Speaker 3>orgery or whatever and never think of Yah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I had had these spots on my back for

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<v Speaker 5>for a long time, ever since I was a child, essentially,

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<v Speaker 5>and they would just change colors from like white to

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<v Speaker 5>frecklely to red.

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<v Speaker 4>People think skin cancer.

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<v Speaker 5>You think it looks like a standard mole for me,

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<v Speaker 5>And I never did my first one. I went to

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<v Speaker 5>a dermatologist. I hadn't gotten to the oncologist point yet,

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<v Speaker 5>and the dermatologist said, this spot looks a little funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want me to biopsy or just cut it out?

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<v Speaker 5>It's small enough that I could just cut it out

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<v Speaker 5>right now. I know you don't want to come back.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh, cut it out. She's like,

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<v Speaker 5>it might not look great. I'm like, don't care, cut

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<v Speaker 5>it out, send the whole thing in. Let's you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>And then that one, you know, turned into thirteen more so,

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<v Speaker 5>it really the first one I didn't think was ever

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<v Speaker 5>going to really turn into another one. And then it

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<v Speaker 5>was the constant cycle for someone like me who likes

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<v Speaker 5>to control everything, the constant cycle of the unknowns, and

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<v Speaker 5>then going to that place of what if I don't

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<v Speaker 5>make it, what if I do die? And then like

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<v Speaker 5>the things in my head that I would really go through,

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<v Speaker 5>like it was like I had real conversations with Edwin

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<v Speaker 5>where I was like, honey, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>who you're going to marry when I die.

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<v Speaker 3>And I she would like to pick her, I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to pick them to my children, Like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Really want to go through this because I don't trust

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<v Speaker 5>your picker, like you went through a lot before you

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<v Speaker 5>got to me, and like I'm still not even the best.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's really narrowed down, like my non negotiables for what

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<v Speaker 5>I want. And I even told my best girlfriends the same.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, guys, if I don't make it, please do

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<v Speaker 5>not let edwin. I don't mind if the girl's prettier

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<v Speaker 5>than me, but she needs to be funny, a good mom,

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<v Speaker 5>be supportive, show up to my kids' sporting events, like

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<v Speaker 5>she needs.

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<v Speaker 4>To be with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and if she can't be with it, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>interested and she has to know. It sounds crazy, but

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<v Speaker 5>like one of the jokes we got when I was

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<v Speaker 5>on the show is people said what do you love

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<v Speaker 5>most about Teddy and he said that she's organized, and

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<v Speaker 5>everyone was like, oh, grow, but he is the most

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<v Speaker 5>unorganized human in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, you need that yin and yang, I think

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've heard that that Kyle Richards was actually the

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<v Speaker 2>one who spotted the first like street cooking, spot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's insane.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell us, Well, we were on a run and I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I guess. I mean, this was after I'd

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<v Speaker 5>already gotten fired, so she'd she'd seen the back of

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<v Speaker 5>my You know, we've been working out together since I

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<v Speaker 5>got hired on the show, and I would always wear

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<v Speaker 5>just like a sports for our tank top or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>But my shoulders were always exposed, so people always saw it. Plus,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like all those dresses that we wear, you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of always show it. I was always in the sun,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it wasn't the world's best about putting

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<v Speaker 5>sunscreen on. And something that I learned, just to go

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<v Speaker 5>back on it for a second, is people constantly ask me,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, what sunscreen should we use? What?

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<v Speaker 4>And what my like board This is key board certified

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<v Speaker 4>dermatologists told me was the best sunscreen that you can

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<v Speaker 4>use is the one you.

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<v Speaker 3>Will actually put on?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Because if I don't you feel if this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>if the sunscreen feels lucky on you, or you don't

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<v Speaker 5>like it, or you don't enjoy putting it on, you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to reapply it and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so find one that.

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<v Speaker 4>You like to use.

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<v Speaker 3>This use spray. It's just easier. Sometimes I use spray.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm always using different things because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with that, I have like textural stuff, so I don't

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<v Speaker 5>like the way it feels on my hands blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>But so either way, I was on a run with Kyle.

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<v Speaker 5>I was in a sports raw and she was like, Teddy,

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<v Speaker 5>that spot on your back.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't look good.

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<v Speaker 5>And I had gone years, probably like ten years before

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<v Speaker 5>to a dermatologist to get it checked, and they said

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<v Speaker 5>it looked like dermat dermatitis, like sometimes after you have

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<v Speaker 5>kids you get dermatitis like whatever it was. And they

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<v Speaker 5>gave me like a steroid cream and a shrunk and

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<v Speaker 5>I just ignored.

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<v Speaker 4>It since then.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, so at that moment, she goes, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>call my dermatologist right now. So she called her, and

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<v Speaker 5>on our run we ran.

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<v Speaker 4>To the dermatologist's office. And that was the first time I.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to wow, did you like have When if anybody

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<v Speaker 3>ever says these like, I remember if I'm getting like

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<v Speaker 3>my hair washed and like I've had my haird a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of look kind of move my hair and look

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<v Speaker 3>at and I'm like, what the fuck, Like, did you

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<v Speaker 3>have that sinking feeling when she when Kyle sort of

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<v Speaker 3>picked up on it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean, but it was those things that like

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<v Speaker 5>my husband had told me probably a thousand times to

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<v Speaker 5>go get checked. But it's like something about just in

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<v Speaker 5>that moment, I was like, you know, I'm such a

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<v Speaker 5>know at all, but like I was like, Okay, you're right,

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<v Speaker 5>I should go. And then when that first spot came,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the beauty of I think sharing vulnerability is

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<v Speaker 5>normally in my life, I'm one of those people that

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<v Speaker 5>don't tell people what I need. I'll more just like

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<v Speaker 5>pull back and maybe go into like a state of

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<v Speaker 5>like depression or anxiety or whatever it may be, because

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<v Speaker 5>I don't ever want to get the feeling of being

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<v Speaker 5>rejected or somebody telling me they can't do something, so

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't ask for help. But with this entire journey,

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<v Speaker 5>I really opened up to my family and my friends

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<v Speaker 5>and essentially people on Instagram too, but and just shared

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<v Speaker 5>what I was going through and it gave me so

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<v Speaker 5>much peace because I didn't feel like I was carrying

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<v Speaker 5>it alone.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. I love that What about your kids

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<v Speaker 3>were you able to did they know any better to

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<v Speaker 3>have this?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've always been, not that this is a compare,

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<v Speaker 5>but people are like, how could you be scared of

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<v Speaker 5>a doctor, but you went and got a neck lift.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, because that was I chose to two hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll im in trolassic surgery seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Days a week. I told, well, yeah, well yeah, like yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so I will.

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<v Speaker 5>I had always you know, and I wasn't one of

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<v Speaker 5>those moms that like didn't tell my kids that I

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<v Speaker 5>got a necklift, Like I was like, I have, this

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<v Speaker 5>has been something that's bothered me in my entire.

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<v Speaker 4>Life, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>So like they had known about surgeries prior because of that,

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<v Speaker 5>and Slay was always kind of like my nurse, Like

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<v Speaker 5>she would come in and be like, oh, is there

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<v Speaker 5>a stitch?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I get that?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like she'd clean everything.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just kind of kept the open conversation here

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<v Speaker 5>and made it more of like, guys, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to tell you that if in these next

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<v Speaker 5>couple of months, why we're figuring this all out, if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not in the best mood, it's not about you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not because I'm mad at you, it's not because

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing something wrong. It's because I am struggling. It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean that I'm not going to get better, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want you to take that on. But also,

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<v Speaker 5>do you guys want me to tell you as everything happens?

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<v Speaker 5>And they were like, yes, please tell us, like and

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<v Speaker 5>they all have different responses, like Dove's always asking like

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<v Speaker 5>can I have a band aid? Because I want to

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<v Speaker 5>be like mommy, I want to have a boo bloo,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like and Cruise is more of like the

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<v Speaker 5>cuddler the lever, and Slate is like the caregiver, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>she really goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of her way.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think the only times that it was hard

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<v Speaker 5>is like post surgery, Like once I would think that

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<v Speaker 5>I was coming out of it and then I'd get

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<v Speaker 5>another hit and then my emotions didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 5>handle like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So was this is this genetic?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is this fri I know you said you had

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<v Speaker 2>them since you were a child, but did they get

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<v Speaker 2>worse with sun exposure or or was this bound to happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I think they don't actually know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I like winning things. But when my oncologists told me

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<v Speaker 5>that I have the most amount of melanomas they'd ever

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<v Speaker 5>seen at our hospital, It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that I wanted to do, and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To congratulate you on that. There'll be no prizes for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but no, I mean, I now, after the fact,

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<v Speaker 5>I did learn that there's something called Castle Sciences that

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<v Speaker 5>I wish I would have done at my first mole

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<v Speaker 5>or my first skin cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>But what they do is they take.

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<v Speaker 5>Your biopsy and after they diagnose you know what stage

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<v Speaker 5>you are, then you can send it to Castle Sciences

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<v Speaker 5>and then it can tell you your chances of getting

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<v Speaker 5>more and it's spreading because that would have been key

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<v Speaker 5>information for me to have because then I could have

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<v Speaker 5>I could have gone one way or the other. But

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<v Speaker 5>at least then I would have known these are going

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<v Speaker 5>to keep coming up. But yes, I had tons of

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<v Speaker 5>sun exposure growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>I put bayboil on. I did these things. Is that

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<v Speaker 4>the cause of it? I have no idea. I also

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<v Speaker 4>was in a tanning bed when I was younger, but

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<v Speaker 4>something that was I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The wedding, forget it. So how's your shoulder now? Was

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<v Speaker 2>that a painful recovery? I imagine stretching the skin like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll give you guys a little. I'll give

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<v Speaker 4>you a viewing. It's not this isn't for our only

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<v Speaker 4>fans page.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing it at it's a lot teddy looks.

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<v Speaker 3>So that does not look like it was easy. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but I love how you're still backless and

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<v Speaker 3>you're still sometimes right without like you wear it with

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<v Speaker 3>your ride.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I don't. Definitely, like people are like,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you want to would you want to go?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like no, for me, like all the shitty

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<v Speaker 5>things that I've done in my life, at least I can.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like I'm helping people in this regard that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like people are saying, yeah, I went to go get

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<v Speaker 5>check because it can be a bigger deal. We think

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<v Speaker 5>in our head, you know, the two big things with

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<v Speaker 5>skin cancer is one it's not a big deal, or

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<v Speaker 5>two you caused this yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I think there's that guilt that it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of and I remember feeling that same guilt when

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't get pregnant naturally the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's same, like sh I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>People would say, well, maybe you're too stressed or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you're this, and then it became that guilt again, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, why am I punishing myself for something that's

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<v Speaker 4>completely out of my control?

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, I hate when people say, like I've

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<v Speaker 3>been gone through, like we all have very stressful times

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<v Speaker 3>and people say, you have to relax, You're gonna give

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<v Speaker 3>yourself cancer. That's how I'm like, So now you think

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<v Speaker 3>that helps me to relax. So now I think I'm stressed,

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's cancer. It doesn't come from stress.

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<v Speaker 3>They say it they well, listen, people have to say

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<v Speaker 3>of it. They say it all the time. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>or they'll I've had people say, you know, she whatever

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<v Speaker 3>one of my friends. Some Yeah, I've had a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of friends got cancer and they say, well, she was

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<v Speaker 3>in like the hardest time in her life and she

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<v Speaker 3>was so stressed. I personally like to believe that one

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<v Speaker 3>does not affect the other, but a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>disagree with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, well, I mean, I can't even remember what franchise

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<v Speaker 5>on of housewives, but somebody said, like, you like said

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<v Speaker 5>it public.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I remember that she.

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<v Speaker 5>Got cancer something along those I remember that, I can't

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<v Speaker 5>totally remember that it was. And the person ended up

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<v Speaker 5>having to like release a statement saying like you know

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<v Speaker 5>that I didn't mean it like that, And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's also we say things in just sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we even saw it. I know you guys

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<v Speaker 5>talk about this often, but like I even saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it was Barbara streisand commented on the ozempic thing publicly.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't realize it, But like sometimes we say things

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<v Speaker 5>and we don't realize what the magnitude their impact will

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<v Speaker 5>mean from that, you know, I have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Question, Teddy, after now that it's gone forever, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go with it's gone forever, how has it changed you?

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<v Speaker 3>And guys, I'm gonna I think that like it wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just skin cancer, right, I would think, and

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't had cancer, but that it just changes you.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, has it well?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say one regardless of if it's skin cancer,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever kind of cancer it may be, is you need

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<v Speaker 5>to get all of your checks. It doesn't mean you

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<v Speaker 5>just need to go to the dermatologists. You also need

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<v Speaker 5>to go to the gaynocologist. You need to get your

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<v Speaker 5>eyes checked. It can be glaucoma. You need to get

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<v Speaker 5>like every your colonoscopy's like all of those things, just

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<v Speaker 5>do it, book them, like do it once and just

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<v Speaker 5>like book out two days and make that a priority.

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<v Speaker 5>But how it has changed me is I've really shifted

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<v Speaker 5>my focus on things that I really love to do.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, A big part of my self worth has

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<v Speaker 5>always been, you know, like, am I going to be approved?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was always like searching for that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>outside approval, whether that started with my parents or whatever

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<v Speaker 5>may happen. So I've always been a really hard worker,

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<v Speaker 5>but I wasn't really thinking about what do I love doing?

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<v Speaker 5>And now I really focus on it. I'm back to

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<v Speaker 5>riding horses a lot. I invest my money like the

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm tight with my money, but like with that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff, I'm like, this is something my daughter

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<v Speaker 5>and I love doing, and I'm going to invest in

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<v Speaker 5>that because this is about enjoying my life that I've created.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Can we transition to mental health for

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, did you? So?

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<v Speaker 2>You said that you struggle with anxiety, which I do too,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do too. We talked a lot together about

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<v Speaker 2>mental health, but we don't talk about it on here yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious if you feel like being on the show

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<v Speaker 2>you were three years full time?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yes? How was that for your mental health?

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<v Speaker 5>The being on the show was fine, Like, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily like being on the show. I had some of

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<v Speaker 5>my you know, I just saw Renna and Kyle and

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<v Speaker 5>Erica and it was like no time had passed and

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<v Speaker 5>we laughed and we enjoyed it and like we can

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<v Speaker 5>talk about the good times because just like anything in life,

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of like block out the bad times and

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<v Speaker 5>remember the good It's like going back to that ex

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<v Speaker 5>boyfriend after you know you shouldn't like it's still like

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<v Speaker 5>you're like you forget the parts that weren't great. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't love being pregnant and filming because I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 5>as engaged.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, of course, like I've I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody that drank on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm a person that I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to drink to live, but if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>go out to a birthday party, I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of drinks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like it loosens me up.

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<v Speaker 5>So not being able to do that my last year

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<v Speaker 5>and then having it be a really heavy season that

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<v Speaker 5>was difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>But I wouldn't say that was being on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the only reason I ask is because it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>been fine for both of us as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have seen people whose mental health was shaky

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<v Speaker 2>completely spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean also I think, yes, I think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the show has affected my mental health. If

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<v Speaker 3>mental health means anxiety, I mean anxiety levels have definitely

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<v Speaker 3>they've gotten higher. Doesn't mean I'm not you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay to function and I'm still having fun. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I think also I'm interested in mental health when you

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<v Speaker 3>were younger because I have had mental health issues since

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<v Speaker 3>my twenties and they've certainly changed forms and I handle

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<v Speaker 3>it way better now than I did when I was younger. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>here's camera, Hi, Tam.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Camra.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about health, and we talked all about

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy's skin cancer journey and we were just delving a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit into mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, also how different it is because we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to We're try you know, you guys obviously you are

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<v Speaker 3>producers of our show, so you know, we don't really

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<v Speaker 3>do talk a lot about housewives, but we do talk

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about women of a certain age. And you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>your spread is Tam, how old. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're younger than me.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe, Yeah, I think I'm older.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fifty six, I'm fifty five, same idea. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>what happens between, like, for instance, Jackie's age forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty five and Teddy you're even younger. But as

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<v Speaker 3>your me mental health, because mine has definitely changed. I

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<v Speaker 3>handle my mental health issues way better now. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as we're going through these different stages of our life,

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<v Speaker 3>what is affecting you in terms of mental health?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think people talk about mental health now.

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<v Speaker 5>I when we were younger, it was something to be

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<v Speaker 5>ashamed of, or that like that one crazy person over

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<v Speaker 5>there had that, so you couldn't ever have that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>or it was these where now it's so spoken about.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, even especially post COVID because all of our kids'

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<v Speaker 5>mental health was starting to be affected from not being

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<v Speaker 5>able to go to.

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<v Speaker 4>School and all this, Like we are all more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking about it now, So I think that really sheds

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<v Speaker 5>so much more light on the discussion around mental health.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean, you you go on to CHAM but.

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<v Speaker 6>I think for me, it's just getting older in experience

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<v Speaker 6>and things I've gone through before. I had a really

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<v Speaker 6>hard time just dealing with things, just dealing with anything.

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<v Speaker 6>And now I've just learned that, you know, everything passes,

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<v Speaker 6>Everything passes, So whatever I'm so stressed out over and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm just in my head. I'm like, okay, give

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<v Speaker 6>it up to God, Like God take over. I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to be okay. I am always okay. It's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be okay. And it's just a process of just talking

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<v Speaker 6>yourself yourself through.

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<v Speaker 2>My therapist always says to me, she's like Jackie, slowed

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<v Speaker 2>down and let life unfold. And I always remind myself

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<v Speaker 2>of that because I don't. I'm always anxious about what's

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<v Speaker 2>coming next, if nothing's coming next, or how to make

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<v Speaker 2>things happen, and like, I always have to remind myself

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down a little.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I discovered prozac later in life, so that

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<v Speaker 3>has certainly helped. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna say, Zoloft has really taken things to the better

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<v Speaker 5>place for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I remember I went that route.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I went that route when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 3>I was younger, i'd gotten off of it, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been.

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<v Speaker 6>On it in years, but I've had children that I've

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<v Speaker 6>had to put on many too for me too, anxiety

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff inciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'm a big fan. Not everyone agrees

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<v Speaker 3>with that, but I'm a big fan of SSRIs, not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily like the ones what are they called, like the

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<v Speaker 3>Xanax and the although at times when it's I've had

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<v Speaker 3>bad anxiety, I use those two. But like SSRIs, I

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<v Speaker 3>I always say to people that are hesitant, you're still you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it doesn't change your personality. It doesn't change

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<v Speaker 3>at least for me, it doesn't change my E.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think it's different for everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think everybody can. Like I had one child

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<v Speaker 6>that gained twenty pounds and was staring at the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>So fair, It's like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that one, maybe another one might have worked who

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<v Speaker 6>We ended up leaning her off of it and just

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<v Speaker 6>got her into working out, and she's gotten older.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very better, right right, Well, talk to us a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit tammer about health issues. I mean that's the

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<v Speaker 3>topic today. It's kind of heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you had your own melanomas, correct, Yeah, I had melanoma.

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<v Speaker 6>I've had multiple skin cancers. I've had everyone you can

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<v Speaker 6>think of. And then I was getting a miss during

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<v Speaker 6>a filming and in Iceland, and this MASSU said you

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<v Speaker 6>should check that little dot on your butt. I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was going to my normal dermatology appointments and

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<v Speaker 6>she's as I was walking out the door is all done.

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<v Speaker 6>I go, oh, you know what, can you look at this?

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<v Speaker 6>And she goes, oh my god, why didn't you show

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 6>me this before? And I go, I totally forgot. It

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<v Speaker 6>had been months. She goes me, buy upstate, Buy upstate.

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<v Speaker 6>It was stage one melanoma.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it sucks. And we're talking to Teddy just about

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<v Speaker 3>how that has affected you. I mean, I'm obviously I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure your heart sank when you heard that.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's a scary, scary, scary feeling because I

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<v Speaker 6>was so used to having things burn off of me,

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<v Speaker 6>cut off of me because I'm just I'm irish, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>white and freckly, and all the damage I did to

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<v Speaker 6>my skin in my twenties and thirties. You know, the

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 6>tanning beds. I used to work for a tanning salong

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 6>salon out of high school, so I would bake in

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 6>those tanning beds, right, And now the dermatologist is like,

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 6>this is what I'm seeing. You know, women in their

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<v Speaker 6>forties and fifties that did this in the eighties and

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<v Speaker 6>nineties now have multiple skin cancers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And ps, my twenty one year old kids soon

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<v Speaker 3>to be twenty two is still doing it and we

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<v Speaker 3>fight about it. It doesn't matter. I mean, she's she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't give a shit, you know, she's.

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<v Speaker 6>It needs to be out lawed.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I can't. I mean, either Tanny beds or

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.959
<v Speaker 3>just she just bakes in the sun. And she always

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<v Speaker 3>I say to her the first day, at least put

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<v Speaker 3>on sunscreen. No, she has a Listen, she burns and

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 3>she peels. I'm like, Rachel, you're gonna regret this, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not good, not God forbid skin cancer. But even

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, esthetically.

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<v Speaker 6>Just premature aging and rankling and all that that comes

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<v Speaker 6>from from the sun. Like my daughter will not even

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 6>go in the sun while she actually has like a

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 6>little allergic reaction to the sun, so if she goes

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<v Speaker 6>in she breaks out in a rash.

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<v Speaker 5>But also it's the products our kids are using, like

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that we have like ten year olds that

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<v Speaker 5>want like drunk elephant with anti aging blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 5>like they go you can't even go to a Sephora

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<v Speaker 5>on Saturday with like every like pro's purchase for them.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter's obsessed to thirteen. Oh it's bad for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because think about it.

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 5>If you're using products on your on your skin that

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 5>you don't need yet, you're creating your body to get

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 5>used to something. I'm not a doctor, but like I've

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<v Speaker 5>gone down the talk rabbit hole, right, like you're creating

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 5>TikTok you.

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Know you're Yeah, I'm a TikTok doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>So like I I have to tell Slate, like, no,

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to look through the back and see, like,

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<v Speaker 5>what are the things inside of here that like are

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 5>absolutely unnecessary for an eleven year old?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Can you imagine drunk elephant at eleven?

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my daughter's got more products than I have thirteen.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>They're all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids are like in my way at support. It's annoying.

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<v Speaker 6>Way, what is drunk elephants?

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.959
<v Speaker 3>It's like camera. I mean I love it.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I have it on today. At least you see this glow.

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<v Speaker 6>Face, right, Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna google it.

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, it's I need it too.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I get on Amazon?

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Well? The packaging is really enticing to children, especially, and

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 5>they all do their like get ready with me, and

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 5>they're you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Also the thing for mental health.

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<v Speaker 5>Social media, Like I had to download this app called

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 5>q Q Studio where I can track how long my

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 5>kids are on each thing. So like I'm like, what

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 5>are you doing at not like your phone supposed to

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 5>be outside of your room. Why can I see that

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 5>you were on Amazon or you were playing Roadblocks or

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<v Speaker 5>Fortnite or whatever at ten thirty after.

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<v Speaker 4>We said good night?

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 5>You know, like we have to be aware because our

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 5>parents weren't. I mean, we're not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 5>micromanage everything. I mean, heck like.

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<v Speaker 3>We' I mean, yes, a for effort, but no, you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you had other health issues?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, te had you struggled with intestinal obstruction.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah, I still struggle with intestinal issues. I've had

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 6>intestinal issues my entire life. They I had go on

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 6>medication for a while. I mean when I was with Simon,

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 6>I don't think my stress helped it, but I had

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 6>severe irritable bow syndrome, so I could barely pick the

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 6>kids up from school. I knew where every bathroom was

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 6>from here to the mall, which the mall is only

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 6>two miles from my house.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means you always have to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom where you never go away. I can.

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<v Speaker 6>I would drink even to this day, like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>this is disgusting, but I I pooped like probably seven times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually no, you're not jealous. I'm jealous.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not jealous of an illness of you know, yeah, direction.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm on lindsay.

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<v Speaker 6>I had abdominal surgery ten or eleven years ago. I

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<v Speaker 6>had a strangulated hernia. So I had a hernia. I

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 6>hate al hernia. There was beach my ribcage. I didn't

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 6>know it, and my intestines had grown through the my

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 6>stomach wall and were dying.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>I would get this really really bad pain. And it

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 6>was going on for quite a few months, and then

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 6>my stomach bloat really big. And then one day and

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 6>I was going to see a doctor and they couldn't

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 6>figure it out. I was having MRIs done at the

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 6>hospital everything, and then one day I was sitting at

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 6>home and it started and I said, okay, here it

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 6>goes here it goes like, get the toms out. I'm

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 6>doing everything, and this time it was beyond I called

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 6>Terry de brow. I go, Terry, it's happening. He goes,

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 6>get to the hospital now, so I called. I had

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.239
<v Speaker 6>to call nine one one. The hospital is literally two

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<v Speaker 6>miles from my house Mission hospital, and by the I

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 6>had to have like three shots of morphine by the

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 6>time I got there.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, and wow they had.

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<v Speaker 6>They did emergency surgery. They cut open my stomach vertically

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 6>and they had to like dissect my intestines off my stomach.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Wall wow wow.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 6>But while they were doing that, they found that part

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 6>of my intestines were torn, and they think that that's

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 6>what was causing me all the stomach problems. So it

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 6>was kind of a blessing. And then then I was

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it was horrible recovery. Horrible recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I think we have to rap soon. But how

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>are you doing today? Like health wise me?

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<v Speaker 6>I mine, I have to keep on top of it.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 6>My intestines. I always have to get scoping done. My

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 6>grandmother died of intestinal problems, so I mean it's really scary.

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Like ladies and gentlemen, welcome to aging. Yeah, not easy

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>and not easy.

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<v Speaker 6>I just yeah, So I was when I was doing Traders,

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 6>I got severely sick and they put me on a

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 6>very strong antibiotic to get me through it. Will it

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 6>cause intestinal inflammation in my intestines. So by the time

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 6>I got home from Traders, I was in the hospital

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 6>for three days down my Yeah, I'm so. I always

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 6>joke with my mom, I've had more health issues in

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 6>my mom house.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>No one would know that we're watching you on I mean,

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I know, I think you shared some stuff on Housewives,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>But how do you guys feel in terms of like,

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I at least and again, I'm a horrible hypochondriac, so

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>at any on any given day, death is knocking. But

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 3>some times the only two part you too, totally too

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<v Speaker 3>really well, the only good part of that is that

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>when I go, because I do, I'm at the doctor

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 3>every other day, and when I find out that I

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 3>am okay, I feel like I have different perspective, like,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>oh wait a second. You know, whatever happened yesterday on

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>social media is not quite as important, right, And I

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I mean, it doesn't always last. But this

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff, I don't think. There's certainly nothing good

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>about cancer, you know, or having intestinal problems or any

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of illness, but sometimes it does give you perspective.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here about that a little. I mean, Tom,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you felt like if you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feel like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so petrified of cancer. I had a premio vos

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 6>kan recently. Well it's been a year. I'm going back

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 6>for a recheck, and they found like four spots on me.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 6>Two of them were one is a pre cancer a

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 6>spot on my pancreas. Oh, come on, that's something you

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 6>just don't want tok around with. And it's it's very

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 6>very small. So I'm going back to get rechecked. And

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 6>stupid me, I haven't even in a year, haven't been

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 6>to the doctor to.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Yeah, Tim, that's that is stupid. I can't take

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 3>that away from you. That is just stupid. Total yep yep,

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 3>teddy make But.

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<v Speaker 6>They told they told me it was very very small.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 6>It was like point four million meters.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's why I said, have you gone for your

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 4>follow up?

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm going, yeah, next week, I'm going for a follow up.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean I think there's that.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 5>And I think also as women, we have so many

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 5>hormonal issues that come and go, and like for me example,

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 5>I remember being like put on birth control when I

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 5>was like fifteen years you know, like it was like

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 5>something you did. You like went to your first appointment,

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 5>you got put on birth control, and then like I

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 5>stayed on that forever and it wasn't probably the right

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 5>one for me, or my body changed or like still

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 5>the same things. It's just more when it comes to

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 5>your health, no matter what it is, hormones, cancer, intestinal issue,

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 5>you have to be an advocate for your own health

0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 5>because you bought.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I can diagnose you Teddy right now, what you

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 6>are a bundle of nerves and stress constantly. I am too,

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 6>not as bad as you. You have high anxiety. When

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 6>you have all that, it hurts you.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about that earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just just thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But when people say that to you, it hurts you too, because.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 6>But what did I tell you have to get your

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<v Speaker 6>cancer diagnosed? I said, you have to find a way

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<v Speaker 6>of processing shit. And then you know you now you

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 6>are really into horses again, So I think that that's

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 6>a good outlet. You don't you don't have time. I

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<v Speaker 6>know for me because I'm a worrier that if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not busy, my mind is very destructive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Please sense he kills my joy, Yes for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I know and you worry way more than

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 6>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think there's like a moral to the story.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>One of them today is that like, as scary as

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<v Speaker 3>it is, especially I think as you're getting older, go

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<v Speaker 3>to the frickin' doctor. Like like Teddy, you were saying

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>that too, right, like get and I don't enjoy it.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>There's there's a day with a mammogram is like not

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>a good day, and but you know, I do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my friend. I had one of my best friends, Denise,

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<v Speaker 3>died of ovarian cancer, and she would say to us

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, like because she went for a year,

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 3>she didn't feel well and it didn't get diagnosed, and

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>they would say to her at one point they thought

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>she should go on antidepressants and she was just so

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 3>tired all the time. But she would let it go.

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>But she said, like towards the end, especially, but she

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 3>would tell us the people that she loved, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to listen to your body.

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<v Speaker 2>And Teddy, I love your idea of just taking two

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>days and making all your appointments and just dedicating those

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>two days to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I think that that And then also knowing,

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<v Speaker 5>like for me, because I am such like a stressed person,

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<v Speaker 5>like I will go, go, go, go go, But then

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 5>I finally gotten too the place of my life where

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<v Speaker 5>I also will give myself permission to crash, and like

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 5>It'll be a random like Monday or something, and I'll

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 5>be like, you know, I just always think that. Like

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I'll even have to say to Edwin, even though he

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't judge me, I have to be like, listen, I've

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 5>been working NonStop and then I had the weekend horse

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 5>show with the kids and blah blah, and I just

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna sit here and watch like women who kill

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<v Speaker 5>on blah blah blah and zone out.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, you do you bo?

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, like, but sometimes you need that to just decpress.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, some people murder doesn't relax them, but it

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>relaxes me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you also have little kids. It's harder to take

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 3>that time. I mean, I take that time every day

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I crash, you know, but little kids, it's like you're

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I love this conversation.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it was really like in lightning and I'm

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>sorry for all you guys have gone through.

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But it looks like you come out the other side stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say that, like, like the idea of

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 3>people getting to know this, I don't know how much.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've watched, I've been a fan for years

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 3>and years, but like how much people get to see

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>you as people not just housewives? Know and like the

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 3>struggles real.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good thing about our podcast that people do

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 6>see us in a different light.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, just.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Screaming, not just screaming lunatics on reality show.

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<v Speaker 1>This to you guys for coming on. We love being

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a part of your team too.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 5>We appreciate it really proud of you, guys, and we're

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 5>excited to see where the rest of the season goes.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys look thrilled. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, thank you guys for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>We are two Jersey Jays. Thank you, Tammer and Teddy.

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 3>What a pleasure, what an honor. Bye guys, Bye guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you guys.